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Transcript of Welcome to Cornerstone Revolution's September Webinar.
Welcome to Cornerstone Revolution’s
September Webinar.• Today’s Guest Speaker:Dennis Gibb-President, Sweetwater
Investments, Inc.• If you haven’t done so already, please dial
1-800-610-4500, access code 4423916 for the audio portion of today’s presentation
• We will be starting in just a moment
Cornerstone RevolutionsMonthly Webinar Series
September 18, 2007
Guest Speaker-Dennis GibbSweetwater Investments, Inc.
Summer News• Cornerstone is moving the week of October 15- With the addition of
a new developer and two new Back-Office representatives ,we are growing up and out. We will send an email in a few weeks with the new address. You can view it today on our new Website as well.
• Cornerstone has entered into an alliance with SonicWall, producers of VPN software for remote users. Cornerstone customers will recognize a 20% discount.
• With growth there is demand and we have both, having said that our BackOffice pricing will be going up 17% on October 15. Existing customers will not be effected until their next renewal.
• Both Vista and the new SQL reports are close to release.
Dennis Gibb and
Sweetwater Investments, Inc.
Dennis has over 30 years with multiple personas in the investment industry. In addition to his senior roles at Morgan Stanley and Bear Sterns, Dennis has experience with fixed income sales, investment
banking and compliance.
Sweetwater was named one of the Top 100 Independent Investment Managers in
the US by Barron’s Magazine
A New Model for Advisor Compensation
Dennis GibbPresident
Sweetwater InvestmentsRedmond, WA
Four Methods of Advisor Compensation
• Assets under Management (AUM)
• Fee for Service
• Commission
• A combination of fees and commission
• The model had its origins in the Money Management Business
• Money Management is a very different business than what we do
The Truth about Money Management• High Operating leverage
• once costs are covered profits increase dramatically
• lose money on every account but make it up in volume
• Very commodity like
• dependant on performance
• constant pressure on fees
• difficult to separate from the crowd
• Big Money syndrome
• bigger money get more access to better information
• costs to be big are very high
Advisory Practice• Money Management
• Financial Planning
• Due diligence
• Hand Holding
• Consulting
The value of the last four is greater than the first one.
We often do not pay ourselves for what we really do.
What do we really sell?We only have two products:
Our Time
The Collective knowledge stuffed between our ears.
Both are terrible tyrants
The Tyranny of Time
Working days per year 222
Working hours per year at 10 hours/day 2,220
Revenue needed to generate $250,000
at 50% margin $500,000
Hourly rate to generate $250,000 $ 225.00
The Danger of AUMYour relationship with the client is dependant on investment performance
Client has $8 million in investments
You manage $2 million at 1%= $20,000
You have a bad year and you get fired
You lose the entire relationship
You act as a consultant to the entire $8 million at .375%
$8 million at .375% = $30,000- a $10,000 raise
If the manager you select has bad year they get fired not you
The Danger of AUM Part IIYour relationship with the client is very likely more than just investment Management
If the client asks you to look at his estate plan do you get paid?
Can you afford the time to do all the things clients ask and still perform?
If the client gets a lot of services for free they tend to demand more services not less.
Providing more services, requiring more time for the same money reduces profitability.
The solution is to find a way to be able to charge for what you actually do.
Class ofClass ofBusinessBusiness
Investment Investment ManagementManagement
Investment Investment ConsultingConsulting
Financial Financial planning/adviceplanning/advice
ServicesServices Discretionary Discretionary Management Management assetsassets
Due diligence of Due diligence of other managers, other managers, portfolio portfolio structuring for risk structuring for risk and reward, and reward, performance performance reporting, research reporting, research on investment on investment proposalsproposals
Delineation of goals Delineation of goals and objectives, and objectives, discussion of risk discussion of risk tolerance, tax tolerance, tax planning, insurance planning, insurance planning, hand planning, hand holdingholding
Form of Form of compensationcompensation AUMAUM
Retainer fee Retainer fee based on total based on total assets and assets and projected time projected time on caseon case
Retainer fee with Retainer fee with annual review feeannual review fee
Benefit to Benefit to ClientClient
Knowledge of Knowledge of manager and manager and immediacy of immediacy of contactcontact
Simplified life, Simplified life, objective inputobjective input
Retain optionalityRetain optionality
What is our model to overcome the problem?
What are the DrawbacksCan be messy to explain
Can be messy to administer
Requires you to track time
Requires you to confront clients about the amount of time they take
Requires you to be able to demonstrate the value of what you do
Could result in the loss of some clients
What are the AdvantagesGives you a chance to get more revenue per client
Get you out of the rat race of investment management
Makes your client more of a partner
Gives you a chance to provide more services to the client which usually equals increased retention
Align Firm revenue with actual service offerings
Questions ?To un-mute your phone, press the 6 key on
your phone . When complete press the 6 key again to mute.
Thank you See you next month!
InquiriesEric D. Duran- Senior Account Manager
Andrew Kehoe- Product Specialist503-968-7202
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