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    The Inanimate Creation

    &

    Science Research

    3 out of 6 creation days:

    Day 1 lightDay 2 air

    Day 3 land tectonics, ig/met

    Day 4 heavens

    Flood

    Plate tectonics

    Sedimentary rocks

    Igneous/Metamorphic

    Animation

    Plate tectonicsGeneral features#13-14

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    Research on the Inanimate Creation

    Short chronology

    lack of models horizontal, vertical, time

    preferred anyway theodicy

    Research

    guidelines

    examples California, Peru

    Conclusions

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    1) Horizontal(next talk)

    plate tectonics

    2) Vertical(Colombia) geologic column

    3) Time(ideas)

    radiometric dates

    No working scientific creation/flood model for:

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    2) Vertical

    earth differentiation

    Formation of

    Core, mantle, crust

    Continents, ocean basins

    Mountains, plains

    Elements for mining, fertile ground

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    Geologic column

    Thailand sutured blocks, oil/gas/minerals (complete section)

    India shield, sediments, basalts, Himalayas (complete section)

    North Dakota Williston basin oil (complete section)

    Colorado Rocky Mountains (almost complete section)

    Colombia !!!

    New Mexico Rocky Mountains (much of column)

    Peru Andes (much of column) California Cordillera (much of column)

    Canada Banff (Pz sediments, Mz tectonics)

    Italy Alps (Mz, Cz mainly) Israelplate boundaries (Precambrian, Mz, Cz)

    Virginia Appalachians (Pz mostly)

    Kenya, South Africa shield, Karoo, Rift Valley (parts of column)

    Puerto Rico Caribbean plate (Mz, Cz mainly)

    Philippines volcanism (Cz)

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    Israel

    4. Cenozoic post Flood ?? vertebrates, hominids

    salt, lake deposits

    Dead Sea fault, earthquakes, volcanics

    3. Mesozoic (&Ceno) late Flood ?? reefs, chalk, dinos, trees, ammonites asphalt, cycles

    limestone quarries, caves

    2. Paleozoic (&Meso) early Flood ?? limestone, gypsum, magmatism

    Nubian ss, Petra

    Tethys Sea basal congl, trilobites

    1. Precambrian pre-creation/Flood ?? metamorphics, granitoids copper

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    Geology of Colombia

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    one suggested model

    Cenozoic

    post flood ??

    Mesozoiclate flood ??

    Paleozoic

    early flood ??

    Precambrian

    pre-flood ??

    Ordonez-Carmona, Alvarez, and Pimentel, 2006. (Modified fro

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    Precambrian pre-flood ??

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    Cao Cristales, Serrania de la Macarena, Meta

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    Paleozoic (Permian) middle flood ??

    saltZipaquira mines

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    Mesozoic (Triassic) middle flood ??

    Payande Formation

    limestones

    ammonites

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    Mesozoic (Jurassic) late flood ??

    red sandstones, La Quinta Formation

    volcanoclastic, Giron Fm

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    Cretaceous late flood ??

    Kronosaurus fossil displayedwhere found in 1977

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    Sierra Nevada del Cocuy, Boyac

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    Eastern Cordillera

    Ammonites in Villa de Leyva, Boyaca

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    Caon del Rio Chicamocha,Santander

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    Western Cordillera Cauca state

    volcanic rocks (diabase)Barroso Complex

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    Cenozoic (Paleocene) post-flood ??

    La Guajira

    fossils from Cerrejon coalmine like modernrainforest plants

    Titanoboa

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    Oil

    Ro Magdalena entre Honda y el Banco

    Valle del Catatumbo y Zulia

    Llanura del Caribe y Bajo MagdalenaAlto Magdalena

    Putumayo

    Llanos Orientales

    Litoral del Atlntico, valles del Sin y San Jorge

    Litoral del Pacfico

    Economic

    deposits

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    Coal mine, Cerrejon-Guajira

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    Gold

    mined before Spanish Conquest

    in veins & sands of some rivers

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    Emeralds - best in the world for color, brightness- Cretaceous- in limestones affected by hydrothermal fluids

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    Tectonic Setting

    Cediel, Shaw and Caceres, 2003)

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    porphyry copper deposits by age

    red stars = 0-10 Mablue stars = 11-20 Ma

    black triangles = modern volcanoes

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    Volcanoes

    Volcano Cumbal,Narino

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    Volcano Nevado del Ruiz

    lahars covered town of Armero

    more than 20,000 people diedNovember 13, 1985

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    Volcano Nevado del Huila 5365 m

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    3) TimeRadiometric Dating

    Age from decay rate,# parent atoms, # daughter atoms

    Concordance between methods

    1. ORGANIC dates life directly Materials: bones, wood, shells,

    Ages: generally less than 50,000 years

    Isotope: carbon-14 (14

    C14

    N)2. INORGANIC dates fossils only by association

    Materials: minerals, rocks

    Ages: millions, billions of years

    Isotopes: U,ThPb, KAr, RbSr,

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    They dont really answer the question

    a) Radiometric data invalidated by discordanceb) Geochemistry alternative explanations

    c) Geology evidence of rapid activity

    d) Physics relative time

    e) Physical constants changef) Philosophy problems with extrapolation

    g) Models old earth / young life

    h) Supernatural unexpected effects on nature

    Suggested creationist ideas,

    but

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    a) Discordance

    the Rb-Sr method. Ideally, all mineralsof an igneous rock should indicate the

    same date which can then be regardedas the age of the rock. When mineraldates obtained from one rock specimenor from a suite of cogenetic igneousrocks are in agreement, they are said tobe concordant. Unfortunately,discordance of mineral dates is morecommon than concordance.-- Gunter Faure. Principlesof Isotope Geology, 2nded. (1986), p.120

    Mt. Rangitoto, NZ Carbon-14 -- ~1000 yrs

    K-Ar -- ~100,000 yrs

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    b) Geochemistry

    Inherited age for hightemperature minerals withunmelted crystals

    Contamination from wall rock

    Retention of the argon noble gasdaughter isotope in the mineraldue to hydrostatic pressure [K-Ar method]

    Mixing from two sources withstraight lines giving pseudo-isochrons [especially the Rb-Sr

    method] Age due to fractionation/zonation

    in magma chamber

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    c) Geological

    (rapid activity, so dating cant be right)

    Rapid Activity

    Paraconformities~100 m.y. missing at anapparently flat contact

    Catastrophes, rapidburial

    Short Time Carbon-14 in coal,

    dinosaur soft tissue

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    d) PhysicsRelative time

    Rate of time flow non-uniformbetween time-frames due todifferences in

    Speed Special relativity e.g., decay

    rates change Gravitational fields

    General relativity e.g., blackholes, wormholes

    [Refs: Daniel 9; DA 356]

    Relativistic effects have beensuggested to solvediscrepancy between science

    and Genesis

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    RelativityEinsteins definition:

    When a man sits witha pretty girl for anhour, it seems like aminute. But let him sit

    on a hot stove for aminute and its longerthan any hour. Thatsrelativity.

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    e) Change in physical constants

    Change in decay rate Change in speed of light

    Polonium pleochroic haloes

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    f) Philosophical

    a) Danger of extrapolation E.g., childs growth

    Karen's growth

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