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•ove•ber I aDd 3, 1863 LIB •pent entire d y aDd Diabt both date•a t the PAID _ , . . . .

•oveaber 4, 1863 LIB went to work iD tbe ·.oraiaa with LKJ RAZIKR.

· .•o•e•ber 8 , 1963 -. LIB OSWALD e a ~ ~ e to the PAID bo af terwork with WBSLBY raAZIKR.

Jon•ber 11, 1963

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o f f i ~ e located in Oak Cliff to try to helpLBB OSWALD 1et a learDer • p e r ~ ~ i t . LBB

wa• Dot able to drive a car aDd bad ae••rlearned. Be bad aever beld a dr iver •l icea•e. Be told BDTB PAID that once Mt

had driveD bis uncle • car ill Jew Orleaa•but BUTS PAIXI recall• belpinc b1• t ry

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to learn bow to drive aad park the car . ..They were unable to 1et a learner • per•i ton tb ia date •ince the office wu cloaeddue to l t b e i ~ a aa election day.

LEE •peat tbe entire day at the PAID bo-

watcbing televi•ion. Be •pent that aichtt 'here al•o. ·

· Thia wa• a boliday. Be •tayed at the PAIKBre•ideace tb1• entire .day and Dilht. Bepracticed parking for a •hort period withMr8. PAIKB'• e a r ~ Mr•. PAIRB waa goae fortwo or three houra thia date but wa•there when •be · le:tt and there when abeca.e back,

LBB OSWALD l e f t with WBSLBY I RAZIBR 1D the

.orniDI to 10 to ~ o r k¥r•. PAIR placed a cal l for MARIRA OSWALD

to a i t ~ l l n u b e r which LIB bad ClYeD···her a• ,hia re•idence . t e l ~ p h o n e au.ber.

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l l r f l . PAID a•ked to r l l r . OIWALD Dd n •t o ld tba t DO ODe by tlaat aa. . lind tMre .

,IJhe ••ked t tb ia • • • tile nuaber repeatiDC. it aad 1fa• to ld it waa. IJM tbeD • •ked U~ u .... a. I'OOIIiDC IIOUH Dd n a t o ld it .

•••••- LI:B OSWALD ca l led IIARIJIA a t tM PAID

rea1Cience aad bawled ber out for t17t.ac ·to ca l l Ilia th., previou• .day. . . .ina t rue ted MARIRA, a e ~ o r d i D g to ·wbat •be

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· to ld aUTB PAIIll, to aet bold of aUTPAIHB • addre•• book Dd aerateh out tbeWHitehall nuaber which waa wrlt teD tbere .

Wbereaa LIB bad uaually cal led bia wlteonce a day be did Dot c a l ~ oia t b l a date.,

'D OSWALD ar r ived about 5:15 p.a . a t tbePAIRI resideDce havinc co.. out witbWISLEY FJlAZIBR. 118 was Dot •xpected Dd itwas unusual aince he had never come beforeOD Thursday Dight Dd had . ver1 doacome oD a weekday aDd bad Dever coae beforewithout call iDg to ask it be cobld coae out . ·On tb i s Dight be aaid to IIARIIU t ha t tbeJahould cet t he i r own apartaeDt. l ira •.

PAID did DOt aee Ilia 1D the p race I t Mrbo•e but 80MODe had been aoviDIIr t h iDparound 1D ·the carage. LEE OSWAU) went to

bed ea r l J about 8:00 or 8:00 p ~ a .Mra .PAID waa up a t 7:30 a .a . u d foundtha t LBB ~ L had already ar isen ·aaddeparted. 8be found a coffee eup whieb bad· been used iD tbe kitchen and be l ieve• be

f ixed h i • • • l t a cup o f coffee ~ t o r eleaviDC. ·

- LBB OSWALD cal led RUT PAllll t tfice 1D rap id

aucce•aton t e l l ing b e ~ be wauted her to ce tiD touch with a Mr . ABT, ap attorDeJ 1D • • •York i t ~ aad a•k b i a to defend OSWALD iDbis t r i a l to r f ~ • aurder of P r e a i d ~ D t JOBR



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On a te le type from the Dallas Office w:hich ~ - ;reported the r esu l t s of the interview of Marina Oswald.concerning the al leged tl1reat of Lee;, Ua'rvey Oswald to ·shoot for_mer V i ~ - ~ l : E . . ~ S j _ q ~ 1 . : t . . Rich<l_Tq(.1:fi.:'9. 1_,_ t h ~ Director c~ n q ~ J i r e d App,roxrmately what r a t e ' " 1 v o u ~ d tne NIXO l ' I, ' '

lllCident be?' T- : i ; l \). c '. cc<The Dallas Office. i lq reported t h ; t : . : , J > I a r , i ~ a i ) ~ ~ -

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put the date a t approximately_ t w o w ~ e k s af te r the Walker ').incident. Since the Walker incident occlrrred 4-10-63, -the date of the Nixon incident would be apprbximately4-24-63.

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c a ~ t > ~ c : . Q . 9 . . s . i ~ t , . a b l e doubt on the vg,1_i_cjjj;y_gf__the ._s.tory: c e 1 a . t . ~ . ¢ f ~ _ b J c . . . l l ? L i J 1 . 9 : _ Q ~ w a 1 d ' . I t wil l be noted tha tT:Ir. Maurice C a r l s o n , ~ _ Pres ident of the Reliance Life andAccident Insurance l.ompany, had previously indicatedtha t former Vice President Nixon was scheduled to appearin Dallas in Apri l , 1963, to receive an award from thechamber of commerce, On recontact Carlson in effec tadmits he was mistaken in furnishing his f i r s t in formation. A check a t the newspaper morgue of the Dallas

Morning News" for the period 3-16 to 5-16-63 wasnegative as to any publ ic i ty concerning a vis i t of

lVice President Nixon to Dallas . t i s inconceivable1 tha t a person of the public s ta ture of former Vice

, . . _ . l j ~ _ [ t { , m : . - - Pre=?i9ent.Nixon could v i s i t Dallas wi thopt some public

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Re Bureau r ad iogram to Dal l a s , 3 /6 /64 , reques- t ing

a d d i t i o n u l i n v e s t i g a t i o n concern ing a ~ b i e contemplated

~ 2 ~ ~ former Vice P r e _ ' _ ' i ~ . : : _ r : . RICHARD l_,k-f-i:' /-DWN D a l _ ~ - -•rexas, J.n e a r l : : : _ _ ~ ~ - = ~ - - ~ F - - ~ ~ ~ _ 3 _ : _ _ _ Jc- ;(({ :_ D C. ( ,-,

A sea rch o f t h e Da l l a s Times Heruld - - - y ; - ; ; ; ~ i ' s p a p e r s ·

on March 9 and 10, 1964, and t h e Dal l a s Horning Nevls

newspapers on Harch 10 and ll 1964, fo r t h e p e r io d

January l 1963, t h rough March 15, 1963, f a i l ed to r e f l e c t

any mention of a p o s s i b l e trip ·to D a l l a s , Texas , by RICHARD

M. NIXON. The per iod Hatch 16, 1963, t h rough May 15, 1963,

was covered vli·th n eg a t iv e r e s u l t s and p r e v i o u s l y r ep o r t ed

on pages 281 and 282 o f ·the r e p o r t o f SA RdBERT P. GEMBERLING

dated March 10 , 1964, s;_t D a l l a s .

. o n ~ E ~ J ~ ~ ~ i ~ - : J ~ ~ : ~ \ ; r . P E T E ; t Dm1l,TELL, 211 North

Ervay _s:tr.e.e·J:., who i s Cha:Lrman o f t h e Republ ican Par ty o f~ - ~ - - - - . - - - ~ - ~ - - - - - ~ - - - · • -- -· ••• .. ¥0. • • • • ••

Texas , adv i sed t h a t former Vice P r e s i d e n t RICHAIUJ M. NIXON----·-- .was in Texas only once in 1963, t h a t b e in g November 21,

1963. He kno\vS of no i n v i t a t i o n o r p u b l i c i t y concern ing

11r. NIXON in 1963 .o-ther t h an th.e t ime he v1as in Dal l a s in

November 1963. He s t a t ed t h e f i l e s o f t h e Repu1)lican

h e a d q u a r t e r s do no'c r e f l e c t any publ ic i ' cy concern ing l1r .

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The quickest way and most sat isfactory way toresolve whether former Vice President Nixon visi ted or

~ n t e n e ~ o vis i t irr Dallas in 1963 i _ ~ _ t o ~ ~ ~ . .rlttached rs a teletype to the New Yor"'C\B"frce rnstructrng

. that former Vice President Nixon be interrot;ated todetermine i f during 1963 he had any invi ta t ron or anyintention to vis i t Dallas and whether in fact be didso v is i t in that ci ty

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Your intorv1mv ot 1t_pfmnn (paae 6) • after reportingber d i s c u s e ~ o n witl.l...h.D , . . record tha t she olaimed natto havo d seussod ~ e r obsorVntions o f person thought to beOSWald ·with anyone olae, not oven bar parents . This i s notclear ns v ~ a ~ 6 continuoo conce1--ning hor admiSsion to

· ··-diScussing 1m\tto:r. with a loctil reiH;>;-_•r . and . i t _appears .At.. . . .. .. __ .. . .v u r i a n ~ a w: th: t ho revolntions of. Mrs . ... ~ n n e l l y a n Lor ine .Shuler_. Clarify a.ld andenv-or ·to resolvei tbe9e diScrepancies.

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of your interviewof I. • B. Day and , i f pos s ib l e , resul ts of your inquiry a t

a i r l ines , Aust i n, ns ~ o q u e s t o d in Buo.irtol 1/14/64.

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FLORENCE NORMAN and L. B ~ DAY believe OSWALD waa in Austin,Texaa, in October and/or -November, 1963, Further investigation does not substantiate\. this .. Efforts to locate personafor knowledge of travel by 'OSWALD ne.gative. JOHN H, BOWEN

.reported to have passed through L a r ~ d o Texas, from Mexico

on or about l/1/64. Investigation reflects ALBERT OSBORNE,also known as JOHN HOWARD B O W E ~ presently reaiding &bout70 miles from Mexico City. Re.ults of miscellaneous .

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~ JESSE A, SKRIVANEK, res iden t of 9 9 ~ a r l e e n Drive ,e m p l o ~ as purchasing c l e rk , Procurement Divi on, Sta teH e a d q u a r t e r s ~ Select ive Service System, 515 t e rn. Re:pub l i cB u i l d i n ~ .advised . the fol.lowing: II\ The Monday fol lowing the assassi l l j i t ion of Pres iden t

JOHN F o KENNEDY$ Mrs . DANNELLY of h i s o f f i c e aske.d. him if he

could reca l l\ an ind iv idual who she b e l i e v ~ to · be HARVEY OSWALDhaving v i s i t ed tha t o f-f i ce . ·

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photographs o_ OSWf\LD in the newspapers . asob.served him on te . l :evision .

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Sf ELLA NORMAN was no longe r employed/ as a wai t ressa.t th i s caf'e_o N O R M A N E l a s t known residence/ was the second

s e on th<e\east s i.de f.':e Bannister S t r e e t , ~ ~ l unning not't.ho f f o ~ ~ Ben W h ~ t ~ t : Bou l ev •d . /

· : D u r i ~ g NORMAN ' s employment a t tMe . l'rek Cafe herbour,s were f r o m \ c h e unt i l eleven p.m o"' / exc.ept on Fridaysand Satu r 'daya 'Nh};;·t sb.r:: w o r k tr1 ::,m f.i.'J e / P-omo, un t i l one

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She could n,o t 1."Elca l l an ins tance during NORMAN'semployment when NORfvJAN bad been the only wai.t ress on duty a tthe · T·r ·ek Cafe . 1Pbe wot.-:k s c hedp l e;S were se t up so there would.always be w - o - w · ; l . i t ~ s s e o n du. t;y ·a t a1 1 m e bu t one

J n i g h ~ / e tempt) rar:t1y r e c c u p 1 ~ d b y_ ans·,.lel.:i.ng. . h e telephoneor l:H. ing t;he washroom nor a l ly 'lo r very .few .-mi.nut es a t a ..t t me · · .. .. ,,. . ·

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. . . SHULER. a d 1 t i ~ e d t;h · t on t:hree Dr four dif fe ren t ':~ ~ c a s ; i o n s W t h i n a week v S , . O f t ime ; ~ b o r t . l y af t e r the , .assa-ssinat i on o .e P r e s 1 d e n · ~ .. J O f i ~ F .. K.Er-JtfEDY 9 NORMAN mentioned

to 'her tha t she had seen LEE HA,RVE 'f. OSWALD ·-as . a customerin t he TJ:Jek Ca f'e, s o m e t : : ~ p r ior \ t o the assassinat ion . However,she ..d id not; pay too much a . t t e n t : i . ~ n t o' NORMAN . and could not

~ e d i l l tha de ta i l s of' ·.wha t NORMAN \h ad t ol.d ..h.er but tha t eacht ime : the s t ory war;; t o-ld' 'by NORMAN ... h e var.:led .f.rom the previous

t y ·a-t: s t c e c l1he se remarks b f \ N O R M A N , . w . e r ~ made while ·.; n du t y a t t he c a f e ro hen• r e c o l l e ~ t i o n NORMAN made these

rema.X'ks t o h er .v ~ H O L E ~ and .t;o her ~ 1 ~ n e o •

I n conc l usion SHULER said sh\ did n o ~ ~ l ~ c e anyfa i t h in the 11y or i e s re la ted b ~ NORMAN ~ e i l c e more Or le ssdismisse d t he t n a t t ~ e r l.'r •om her mind . ·

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The S u n d ~ y af t e r the a s s a s s i D ~ t i o n of P r e s ~ d e n tKENNEDY while a t t h ~ Trek Cafe she saw a picture of LEEHARVEY OSWALD in an Austin paper and recognized him asa customer she had served a t the Trek Cafe •

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employee nor customer b e ~ n g presept . The cook was in thekitchen . This individual came in to the restaurant and

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di.d she not i ce the d i r e c t i o n in which he l e f t .

Seeing he was. nervous she t r i e d to s t a r t aconvers.a t i o n wi th him but he d id not respond .

'On see ing the .photograph. of the accused assa s in

in the paper t h a t Sunday she excla imed out' loud My God Iknow him .

A Mr. DAY who s employed a t ,a l o c a l newspaper was

in the cafe as a customer .

Mr. DAY asked her how she knew the accused ~ s s i nnd she t o ld him • As a customer . ·

Mr. DAY then sa id he thought he too had seen t h i si nd iv idua l in the Trek Cafe .

She could not r e c a l l Mr. DAY be in g in t he cafe

when t h i s customer whom she be l ieved to be i de n t i c a l withthe accused assas s in o f Pre s iden t KENNEDY was t h e re but

Mr. DAY could have been presen t .

NORMAN advise d s ~ could not r e c a l l having discussed

t h i s mat te r with anyone o ~ h e r than Mr . DAY and the newspaperr e p o r t e r who had contac ted he r about two weeks pr io r to t h i si n t e rv i ew a t her then place o f e m p l o y m e n t ~ B i l l ws G r i l ll oca t ed a t South Congress and Rivers ide Drive . As a mat te r

o f f ac t she had not even d i s c u s s ~ t h i s with her pa ren t s .

In conclus io n NORMAN sa i d she did not know whohad d i r ec t ed the n e ~ s p p e r r e p o r t e r to h e r .

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/·-, l A C V I N G T O N owner , Trek c ~ . f e and Mote l ,

.:3100 ....eh.p:,h Congr•es:;:; 9 Aust in 9 Texas, a d v i s ~ as f o l l o w s' I·TLOH.ENCL l-.J 01<.l1AN who was o m m ~ n l y known as STELLA

NOI\ 1AH bega:n . employrne n ·t as a waitress at t he Trek Cafe

on J ul y ~ 6 3 ~ wi t h her hours being/ from t h ree o c l o c k

m wnt il e i ' ~ v e n o c l o c k m S u n d ~ y Monday, Tuesdayand Thursday arid from f iv e o ~ c l o k P l ffia u n t i l one o c l o c k

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r e fe r r i ng to his p a y r ~ book ~ n d the hours of her employmenthe r e c a l l e d from m e m r ~ / . .

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Spec i f i ca l ly ~ c c e r n i n g the da te of September 25,1.9 6 3 h i s payro l l r'e c o r d h b w e d th i: NORMAN had been p a i d

f o r t he us ua l s ix days t-mrl< :for t he week ending Septembe r2 8 , 1 9 6 : 1 q i nd i c a t i n g t o h im t ha t NO R "l.i\N had her r e g u l a r

d-:1y o f f on We.dnesda y Se rtemb.e r 2 5 19 6 3 o\•

Accord ing to h i s r e \ or ds } NORl'·1AN Harke d on on lyt:wo Wednesdays dur ing he r e m p l 9 y m e n · th e s e being the

Wednesday s o f weeks e n d i ng on ~ t u r d a y s ~ Augus t 31 , 1963,

and October 19 9 l9 63t on t hose o ~ c a s i o n s NORMAN was pa id

for f u l l seven days o f work " \ \

NORMAN was not r e l a t e d tb him o To h is knowledge

NORMAN was not re l a te d with anyon e ~ p n n e c t e d wi th the Trek

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LEE HARV:f:Y O S W A L D re p l l ted a s s a s s in a to r \ 9 f Pres iden t J OHN F o

K E N N E l ~ ·_ ·, the Tr·ek Cdfe J t hou gh he c o u l d . no t r e c a l l t he pa r t yt o who : t she made ·t h i s s ta teme n t a n d she had never d i s cussed

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emp loymen t • NORH N ;J. i d not r e s ign 'i' b u fo r severa l daysshe wmLld call in an d say she. wa:; i 11 and. ' co uld not r e p o r t

fo r work . It s e c'm d th a t each t .ime s ome. ·o ther employeewould ment:i.o n h.a.v1.n se en NORMAN d t a n_lgh t club the

p·ra:v i .::ous (?.vening l. ;J ng i :. ~ J . p c Af tep severa l day ss rLe q u i t cal::i.i:ng in .:i.l\\ jus t d .ic.J not . .how fo r work aga in .

t1r 'o CCI\1 .NGTON \-:::tdvi.se <.i t: h a.:t :Ln h i s manner o f

OIDerating th6 T r Cafe ~ e r e are a l ways a t l e a s t two- \ ·'w a i \ ' ; ; , s on duty in t1H". a f 1 ~ •:tnd one wai t res s should not

be l e f t a lo ne hy the o t h e r \ fo c & ' per iod o f more than t en

minu ·t e s fo r he vwo td n r.i't: p ~ ~ . n i t . th 1. so Suc:h an absences houl d be only to use th e vJat:f r oo:n o r answer the te lephone .

\I n :::.•;:;ncius.:Lon j Hr . C ~ I , V I N G T O N advised tha t the

gues t s i.n the T:;:·ek Hote' l for h ~ \ nights o f September 24and 2 5 ~ 1 : j G 3 ~ were a.J.l. .t:'egu la r- c ~ : ~ : > t : : o x n e r s who were known

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O S ~ I A L J D ~ n the newspape;r a day or t i o c; f ter the assass ina t iono f P r e s ~ d e n t JOHN F o KENNEDY he ~ a s ~ n t he Trek Cafeloca ted on S o u t h ~ o n g r e s s in u s t ~ n Present was STE LLA,the vlai t r e s s a t t h ca f e , whose :}'a s t name was not knovm

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He then to ld STELLA she had· wai ted on tha t man,th ere in the Trek Cafe, ci·P,m.lt s i x weeks pr io r to t h i soccurrence . He then t o ld 'STELLA t ha t OSWALD was s i t t i n gin the cafe one day when h ~ DAY, was ra gg ing h e r 11 andreminded her t ha t on t h a t , ocpas ion he t o ld her , I f Icould f ind a wife who would m ~ k e me a l i v i ng , I ' d marry,. . ,

h e r , and tha t STELLA hqd s a ~ d not to t r y to t rap he r ,

t h a t s he was a l readym a ~ r i e a ~ ~

making a l i v ing fo r th a thusbando

He reminded/ STELLAon the t h i r d or four th s too l

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something; t h a t OS\vALD kep t look in g in th'e\ d i rec t ion o f the

kitcheno\

A fte r reminding STELLA o f the a b o ~ ~ STELLA s a tovm and a f t e r appear ing to give the mat te r \;orne deep

thought , to l d h im she too r e c a l l e d see ing O S W ~ L D in t he

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. h i e f r iends ,\B ERNIE BALKY,. who would be/ known to TOMMY

1'I'THA , and BILL,\ who operates B i l l s Wrecking Yard on the. : San Antonio H ighway out of Austin., /

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t h ; ~ x-.:;: :pOl"·te r t ha t O S \ ~ f \ L D resembled a / ' cedar chopper , anot ·too :Cavot•able comp-arison , and di d not want to embarr•assBEPNIE BALKY and BI LL by ext ending .•such a comparison . to them

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He did not t e ~ S T E L L A ~ o ~ o k e _ w i t h O ~ W A L D i asr.-Gla·te d by the reportel ' i l \ th e 1 € x a s b s e i w e r and t h i ~ S was

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Referr ing back t o \ t ~ ~ i nc iden t o f OSWALD s appearancein the Trek C a f e he adv i se d\ t ha t OSWALD was s i t t i n g a t thecounter on his a r r iva l · there .;•and es t imated t h i s was some

:dx <Yi.' s even leeks p r i or to P ~ e s i d e n t KENNEDY's a s s a s s i n a t ion.

;;.z Baid OG I.rJALD rem d.ned t h i r t y\ or for ty minutes ; t ha t hedid not not ice OSWALD on h ~ s d ~ p a r t u r e as to what di rec t ionhetcok o r h i s mode of t r aye l .

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STELLA being present I \0 / \

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in and had coffee , t ~ o u g h he could n ~ t r eca l l who they were.or even .if he knew themo \

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This mus ihave occurred a f t e ~ 3 :00p .m. as a t t h a t;time STELLA was rE?·por t ing for work a t \ 0 p.m.

>'I·n conplus i on, he wished to say, tha t he was wrongas many time s as he was r i gh t , but tha t he be l ieved the

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adv i sed as bes ·t she c a,n re call ·the person ·*ho.· con tac t ed her

giving his name · as HARYEY OSWALD on or ab,out Septembe,r 25

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Richard Warren Lewis in The Scavengers and Critics of the

warren Commission maintains that her death was a natural one:

A record of her autopsy is on f i le t ParklandHospital. She died of heart fai lure, brought on bycalcium deposits so large that they choked her heart saction. The attending physician also indicated she

had a mild case of diabetes, pneumonia a lung in fection, ulcers of her throat and cataracts. He says

there i s no question about the cause of her death.

Notice of Mrs. Robert s death, published in the Dallas Morning

News January 10 1966 appears to substantiate Lewis s findings,

stat ing that:

Mrs. Roberts apparently was seized by a heartattack a t her home ••• She was rushed to Parkland

Hospital, where she died at 5:15 A.M.

The Morning News art ic le goes on to mention the coincidence that

Parkland Hospital was also the scene of the deaths of both President

Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald.

Given the available informationi t

appears that Mrs. Earlene

Roberts died a naturai. ~ · d \ : h The Committee might, however consider

obtaining the record of her autopsy mentioned by Lewis as being on

f i le at Parkland.

J u r i s d i c t ~ Dallas, Texas

Records Available From: City of Dallas Health DepartmentOffice of Vital Stat is t ics1936 Amelia Court

Dallas, Texas 75235

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\osassioatiop Connection: Earlene Roberts m a n a g ~at 1026 North Beckley Avenue where Lee Harvey Oswallp

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\ hhe house at about one in the afternoon. She testified

C J t e ~larren - i s s ion that during the short time Oswald remain

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room -- not more than three or four minutes - - a Dallas Poli

car pulled up in front of the rooming house. The horn was sou,

l ight ly twice, and then the oar drove off. The inference that .a :

~was passed to Oswald by the squad car 's occupants was mentioned by;

David Welsh, in The Legacy of Penn Jones, Jr. , which appeared in

Ramparts Magazine, November 1966:

•••what were policement doing honking the horn outsideOswald's rooming house 30 minutes after a Presidentialassassination? Their swift departure would indicatethey certainly were not coming to apprehend him. I t

is erhaps. ··.far fetched to imagine that they were. Oswald some kind of signal, although i t seems: ~ v ~ ~ u s i b l e as any other explanation of this bizarre

incident.

Date of Death: January 9 , 1966

Place of Death: Dallas , Texas

Circumstances ~ Death: Although Penn Jones, Jr . leading advocate

th Y states hisf the conspiracy eor , belief in volume I of Forgiye My

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she was harrassed by Dallas Police, i t is not

be l ieves she died a natural death.hether he

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~ Earlene Roberts

A§§a§stnattoo C o o n e g t i ~ Earlene Roberta manage,

a t 1026 North Beckley Avenue where Lee Harvey Oswa1Qm

\ J ng hou.seime of the assassination. On November 22 1963 she

' ' · thetbe bouse at about one in the aCternoon. She testiCied .

entetoarren Commission that during the short time Oswald remaio

room -- not more than three or Cour minutes -- a Dallas Pol

car PUlled up in Cront of the rooming house. Tbe horn was s o ~:t

l ightly twice, and then the car drove off. The inference that a •1

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as passed to Oswald by the squad car•a occupants was mentioned b y ~David Welsh, in The Legacy oc Penn Jones, Jr .• which appeared in

Bamparts M g g a z i ~ November 1966:

•••what were policement doing honking the horn outside

Oswald's rooming house 30 minutes after a Presidentialassassination? Their swift departure would indicatethey certainly were not coming to apprehend him. I t

is perhaps .too ··f -r fetched to imagine that they weregiving Oswa1d some kind of signal, although i t seemsas plausible as any other explanation of t i s bizarreincident.

Date of Deatn: January 9, 1966

Place of Deatn: Dallas, Texas

Circumstances o \ Deatn: Although Penn Jones, Jr. leading advocate

of the conspiracy theory, states his belief in volume I of Iorgiye My

b t h dimportant evidence to contribute, and that

Griet that Mrs. Ro er s a

she was harrassed by Dallas Police, i t is not clear in his writings

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\.Nillil i.= Earlene Roberts \

Assassination Connection: Earlene Roberts managed the rooming house\ \

a t 1026 North Beckley Avenue where Lee Harvey Oswald li 'vfd a t the\

time of the assassination. On November 22, 1963, she .saw Oswald enter

the house at about one in the afternoon. She test if ied\before the

'Warren Commission tha t during the short time Oswald remained i n ~ h i sroom - - not more than three or four minutes - - a Dallas Police patrol

car pulled up in front of the rooming house. The horn was sounded

l ight ly twice, and then the car drove off. The inference tha t a signal

was passed to Oswald by the squad car ' s occupants was mentioned by

David Welsh, in The Legacy of Penn Jones, J r . , which appeared in

Ramoarts Magazine, November 1966:

.•• what were policement doing honking the horn outsideOswald's rooming house 30 minutes af ter a President ial

assassination? Their swift departure would indicatethey certainly were not coming to apprehend him. I t

is perhaps .too.,far fetched to imagine that they were,,giving Oswal'd some kind of signal, although t seemsas plausible as any other explanation of th is bizarreincident.

Date of Death: January 9, 1966

Place of Death: Dallas, Texas

Circumstances of Death: Although Penn Jones, J r . , leading advocate

of the conspiracy theory, s tates his bel ief in volume I of Forgive My

Grief that Mrs. Roberts had important evidence to contribute, and that

she was harrassed by Dallas Police, t i s not clear in his writings

whether he believes she died a natural death.

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Reference i s made to m e ~ o r a n d u m s u b ~ i t t e d } ~ y 28, 1964 re la t ive to . survey ~ ~ ~ e026 N. Beckley a t the request o f i-'a. fu l l o f the v7arren Co I l .

On June 8, 1964 I personal ly sta ted that

had been t ry ing to adjust the elevis ion se t lo ca e f ront r z . ~ t cornarthe l i v ing room a t 1026 N. Beckley, Dallas, Texas, ".-then she h ~ a r d a car b o ~ n ,t ha t she ju s t stepped to the _+ef t of the t e l ev i s ion and leaned to the l e f t and

the f ront lt.>ti:-ngroom wind0\-7 next to the te levis ion se t , a t which

she saw Lee Harvey O.:n-1ald standing near the bus stop -..·hich i s jus t across the _a lk and p 8 : $ t t h a . . . . ~ • a y to 1026 H. Beckley <ihich i s on the r iEht hand s ide

the house looking : f r o ~ the house to No r th · Beckley St ree t . lwlrs. Rober t s s tated

a.t the t ime she looked out of' the '\JindoH she " ~ a s probably only a couple of

f r o ~ the "Windm..r. Her posi t ion has been indica ted-on copy o f the rough s ~ e t c hb y SA Rogel' C. a r n e r original of ' hich -Tas o n r d e d d h my me llorand\.l. :l .

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dickem •nd I said to him, 'You 1U· oot I'OCml -Mn. Roberta .,load. • TJR

sure are in a hurry, but M didn't l:tiad thst wu;.fML.uy anything just ran in his read ~ atit a 'lot a(-:ffttit

room, gcx a short tan toat and.and ·made aandwichea iD lilbak " I . ban c out . . . , room. . ·

"He" w-. L ~ H ~ r • t y O;;wUd/ Mr.. Roberta, widow ol ~ ~ ~and hiid ju.t k ile9 ~ Presi-

1ontractor Ole Roberta, , ~

dent o{ the United State.. :widely quoted inD h i p i p e ~ " ' - ~

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· /and Mrs. EI.. Sheppard ol T ~ r .Post O f f i ~ letter tarrier, I Sunday. Mrs; Roberts apparent- and a brother, W. Howard &eJe

here SundBy. i y was sttzed oy a heart ottack at ol Dallas. · ' '1 . . L c.] IMr home 2 2 W Woodin. SM F _ _. . will ~ - • - " tWI uc d at h · . . :;_

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I at t Mme osptta. Cemetery in Troup, Smith Cotil fy.. • Mrs. Roberts, interviewed by I "' -

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TO FBI Office--Austin, Texas DATE: 19 Decembe r 1963

FROl\I Mrs. Lee Dannelly--St Hq, SSvc, Austin, Texas

SUBJECT : OSWALD, Lee Harvey (41-114-39-532)

At your request, following i s a resume of information the undersigned furnishedto Mr. Ronnie Dugger, publisher of the 11Texas Observer and representative ofa Washington, D.c., daily newspaper, on 17 December 1963.

Mr. Dugger cal led t this Headquarters t approximately 4:30 PM, 17 Dec 6 ; heshowed me an identif ication card from the Department of Public Safety and statedhe wished to obtain any information I knew relat ive to a visi t by LEE HARVEY

OSWALD to this Headquarters. Before I gave him any information, my supervisor,

Lt. Col. William Boyd Sinclair walked up to my desk and the two greeted oneanother. Colonel Sinclair asked Mr . Dugger to come on in to his office and

Mr. Dugger told him that as soon as he asked me a few questions he would comein.

Mr. Dugger asked i f I could furnish in detail everything in connection with thevis i t of LEE HARVEY OSW LD to this Headquarters and I advised him as follows :On 24 Nov 63 (Sunday), i t was announced over TV that t that time there was nodefini te record as to Mr. Oswald's whereabouts from May 1963 unt i l the time ofthe assasination of President e n n e d y ~ I was t home t the time and I calledColonel Sinclair and advised him I was positive this man had been to our of f ice,approximately 6 or 8 weeks prior to that date (24 Nov 63). I could not recal l

any information that would make me positive about a specific but that Iwas positive that i t had been on a Wednesday. I have been having quite a bi t

of trouble with my back and legs for quite sometime, and the only times Ihave gone to town during my lunch hour was on our pay days to cash a check--

we are p i ~ on al ternate Wednesdays. I was a few minutes la te getting back

to the office that day and Mr. Oswald was waiting to see me when I got back.

Mr. Oswald stated that he had jus t come from the Governor's office to t ry to

straighten out his discharge from the Marine Corps. which had been under

other than honorable conditions. The Governor's office told him they did

not have anything to do with such things but th t maybe th is off ice would beable to ss is t him. Mr. Oswald stated that t the time he was given the

discharge under other than honorable conditions he was told that i f helived an upright l i fe for the next two years, he could then make application

to have the type of discharge c h a n g e d honorable.11

He told me that he washaving diff iculty in obtaining a job, and holding a job, with that type

discharge. Also. he said i t was embarrassing to his family. I asked himwhere he was registered and he said he registered in Florida but that he

was l iving in Ft. Worth t the present time. I checked our locator f i le forHARVEY OSWALD the name he gave me), but did not check any of the o therOSWALD cards for possible identif ication since I presumed he was correct and

was registered in Florida. I did not find a card for HARVEY OSWALD. We dohave a card for LEE HARVEY OSWALD. Mr. Oswald did not remember whether he had

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19 Dec 63

given his address in Fort Worth (at time of separation from the Marine Corps)

as place of entry into service or not.I

advised him to check with our local boain Fort Worth when he got back and maybe they would have a copy of his Report ofSeparation DD Form 214).

This Headquarters maintains sets of military regulations from the various armed

forces which jo int ly concern the Selective Service System. I checked these

regulations in an attempt to learn the exact procedure Mr. Oswald should follow

in making applicat ion for a change in type of discharge. I did not find the

regulation covering th is subject . I then gave Mr. Oswald a copy of an

information sheet (R6-1229)(copy attached) which l i s t s the locat ion of various

types of military records, so that he could write direct and request the

procedure for making the applicat ion for change in type of discharge.

During th is ent ire interview, which lasted for approximately 30 minutes, Mr.Oswald was very courteous.

- - .- - - -Mr. Dugger advised me to inform the FBI of my inowledge of this case.

Mr. Dugger cal led me on the telephone sometime during the morning of18 December and asked i f Mr. Oswald t any time mentioned to me that he had

l ived in Russia t one time. I told him no. Mr. Dugger asked me i f I saw

Mr. Oswald t the time he was supposedly _ t the Trek Cafe, 3100 South Congress.

I told him no. Mr. Dugger also asked i f Mr. Oswald had t any time during theinterview mentioned anything as to his mode of transportation. I told him no.

Mr. Dugger advised me that he was now ready to mail his report in to the

Washington, D.C. newspaper he represents.

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l,ced ure for KGB officers stationed in embassies 11nd in consulatesto carry on tho normal duties of such a position in ttddition to theundercover activities.500 The Commiss ion has identified the Cubanconsul referred to in Oswald's letter as Senor Eusebio .-.zque (also :Ascue") , the man wi th whom Oswald argued at the Cuban Embassy

who was in f act replaced. The CIA advised the Com mission: '

We surm ise that the references in Oswald's 9 No vember letterto a man who had since been replaced must refer to Cuban ConsulEusebio Azque, who left Mex ico for Cuba on permanent trnnsferon 18 November 1963, four days before the assas::;ination. Azquehad been in Mexico for 18 years and it was kn own as early asSeptember 1963 that Azque was to be replaced. His replacement

did arriv e in September. Azque was scheduled to leave in Octo.ber hut did not leave until l 8 No vember.

We do not know wh o might have told Oswald that Azque orany other Cuban had been or was to be replaced, but we speculatethat Silvia Duran or some Soviet official might have mentionedit if Oswald complained about Azque's altercation with him.••1 .

When asked to explain the letter , Marina Oswald was unable to addanything to an understanding of its contents.••• Some light on its

possible meR.Ding can be shed by comparing it with the earlydta.ft. When the differences between the draft and the final docu-ment are studied, and especially when crossed-out words are takeninto account, it becomes apparent. that Os1"ald was intentionally beclouding the true state o affairs in order to ma.ke his trip to Mex icosound as mysterious and important as possible.

For example, the first sentence in the second paragraph of the letterreads, I was unable to remain in Mexico indefinily be ca use of mymexican visa restrictions wh ich was for 5 days only." The same sentence in the draft be, lins, before the words are crossed ou t , I wasunable to remain in Mexico City because I con sidered useless *'

As already mentioned, the Commission has good evidence that Os·

wald's tri p to Mexico was indeed "useless" and that he returned toTexus with that conviction. The first druft, therefore, spoke thetruth ; but Oswald rewrote the sentence to imply that. he had to leavebecause his visa w:.ts : tbout to expire. This is false; Oswnld's touristcard still had a full week to run when he departed from Mexico onOctober 3.013

The next sentence in the letter reads, I could not take a chance onreqesting a new visa unless I my real n:une, so I returned toUnited States." The f:.tct is that he did use his real name for histourist card , and in all dealings with t.he Cu ban Embassy, the Rm;sianEmbassy and elsewhere. Oswald did use the name o "Lee" on thetrip, but as indicated below, he did so only sporadically and p r ~ r tas the result of a clerical error. In the opmion of the Commtssion,based upon its knowledge of Oswa ld, the letter constitutes no morethan a clumsy effort to ingratiate himself with the Sov iet E mbassy.

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Negro then ga\ C Oswald $6,500 in large-denomination American bills,saying, This isn't. much.'' After hearing this conYcrsrrtion, D saidthat he telephoned the American Embassy in l\[e.-xico City scvcr·altimes pl'ior to the assassination in :m attempt t.o report his belief thatsomeone important in the United Slates was to be killed, bul wasfinally told by someone at the Embassy to slop wasting his Lime.

Dn and his allegations wcr·e immediately subjected to inlensh•e

investigation. His former employm ent as an agent. for a Latin Ameri

C.1n country \\'US confirmed, although his superiors had no knowledge

of his presence in Mexico or the assi:,rnmenl described by "D.n Fou1·days after "Dn first appeared the U.S. Government was informed bythe J\fexicnn authorities that D' had admitted in wriling that hiswhole nnrrath•e about Oswald was false. T-fe said that. he had nc.\•erseen Oswald anyplace, and that he had not seen anybody paid moneyin the Cuban Embassy. l ie also admitted that. he nc.\'er tried lo telephone the. American Embnssy in September and that his first call to

the Embassy was after lhe a.ssassimd ion. Dn said that. his rnoti\•e infabrica.ting the story was o help get himself admitted into the UnitedStales so that he could there participate in action against. Fidel Castro.He said that he haled Castro and hoped that the story he made upwould be believed and ·would cn.11Se the United States to ~ ~ l a k e act.ion 11

again st him. .Still later, '"hen questioned by American authorities, Dn claimed

that he had been pressured into retracting his statement by the Jvfexican police and that Lhe retraction, rn.ther than his first stalc.ment,was false. A portion of the American questioning was carried onwith the use of n polygraph machine, with the consent of D., \Vhentold that the machine indicalcd that he was probnbly lying, saidwords to the efi'ect that he must be mistaken., Investigation in the

meantime hnd disclosed that the Embassy extension number D saidhe had c:.dled would not have given him the person l1c said he spoketo, and thrrt no one at the Embassy--clerks, secretaries, or officers-

had any reco11ootion of his cnlls. In addition, Oswald spoke litUe, i

any, Spani sh. Th:t t he could hrr\'e cn.rried on the alleged conversationwith the red-headed Negro in the Cuban l ~ m b a s s y part of which wassupposed to have been in Spanish, wns therefore doubtful. D now

snid that he was uncertain as to the date when he saw "someone wholooked like Oswa1d' at the Cuban ~ m b a s s y and upon reconsiderntion,he now thought it was on a Tuesday, SeplcmOOr 17, rather than September 18. On September 17,·howevcr, Oswald \'isited thn Louisiana.Statn Unemployment. Commission in New Orleans and also cashed acheck from the Texas Employment Commission at the \Vinn-Di.xieStore No. 1425 in New Orleans. On the basis of the. retractions madeby J)H when he 1tenrd the resuHs of the polygraph examination, andon the basis of discrepancies which appeared in his story, it wasconcluded UmL D \VI\S lying.r.•s

The investigation of the Commission has thus produced no evidencethat. Oswald's trip to Mexico was in any wa.y connected v,•ith the assassination of President Kennedy, nor has it. uncovered evidence that the

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Cuban Government had any involvement in thu assassination. To

the c.ont.rary, the Commission hns been mh•ised by the CIA and Fl31thnt secret and reliable somces corroborate the stntements of SenoraDuran in all mntCI·ial respects, and t.hnt the Cuban Government had

no relationship wit.h Lee HarYey Oswahl other .han tlmt desm·ibed bySenora. Duran. Secrcl.nt·y of Stato Rusk also testified that

a.fter the nssassinalion "there wns very considerable concern in Cubaas to whether they w,ould he held responsible and what the efl'ect ofJmt might. be on their own position and their own safeLy." mGontacUJ wit the Soviet / .,""mOassy in the United Statcs. Soon nfler

tho Oswnlds reached tim Uniled St:tles in J-uno HH)2 they wrote lothe Soviet Embassy in \Vnshing ton, D.C. Oswald requested infot·mation about sub=:criptions to Russian newspapers and mngai,incs andultimately did subscribe to several 11ussian jomnnls. SoYiet. lnw r e ~qui red ilfarina Oswald, as u SoYieL ciLi'Zon lh·ing abroad, to remain incontact with her nation's Embassy and lo file ''arious papers occtt

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after Oswald had experienced repeated employment. difficulties, there were further letlcrs when the Oswnlds soughtpermission to return to the Soviet Union. The. first such request wns alette r written by 1\farina Oswald on ]i'ebruary 17,1963. She wrote that

she wished to return to Russin but that her husbancl would sbt}' in lheUnited StaLes becn use "he. is an American by nationality." m Shewas informed on J\l:nch 8, UH33, Lhnt it would lake from 5lo 6 monthsto process t11e applica.tion.m The SoYiet. Union made a\•ailable to theCommission what purports lo be the entire correspondence betweenthe Osw:dds nnd the 11ussian Embassy in t.he United S t a t e s . ~ Thismaterial has been checked for codes and none has been detectcd.ul·with the possible exception of a. letter which Oswald wrote to theSoYiet Embassy after his return frpm Mexico City, discussed below,there is no material which gives any reason for suspicion. The implicnt.ions of all of U1is correspondence for an understanding of LeeHar ey Oswnld s personality tmd motivation is discussed in the

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inform :you of recent. events since my meetings-..yiLh Comrade Koslinin the Embassy of tho SO\•iet Union, nrc...xico i ~ s ~ 'J'heenvelope ben.rs n postmark which appears to 'NO\·emb2r 12:J l l l ? t ~ s GRuth Paine has testified that Oswald spent thu \\' · r r d ~ r homeworking on the lelttir nnd thut she. observed one preliminnxy draft..mA piece of paper which was.idenlified as one of these drafts was foundamong Oswnld s effects after the assassination. (See CommissionExhibits Nos. 15

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He i s flanked by policemen ( l e t me get over here , out of the wa y) .

I don t know tha t you can see anything i-Tith the >·rave of men who a re

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crush of humanity here as they br ing the suspect in .

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Q: Did you shoot the Pres:i.Jcnt?

COHHl'lH'lWI.'OR: Once a u;nJ.n OsHald has been b1:oucht from

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VOICE: I got behind you, I f igured it s safer .

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