KKS Lecture - Caitanya Caritamrita Adi Lila 10

8/14/2019 KKS Lecture - Caitanya Caritamrita Adi Lila 10

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brothers, they threw themselves on theground, they put some straw in their teeth-in

between the teeth- as a sign of humility. Andas they were lying there in front of SriCaitanya Mahaprabhu, the Lord picked them

up. And they began to describe how theywere the most fallen and they said that, Weare more fallen than Jagai and Madhai.Jagai and Madhai are described to be mostdegraded. Jagai and Madhai, they were notonly alcoholics, they were not only violent,

but Jagai and Madhai were killers also. Jagaiand Madhai also burnt houses down- evenwith people inside. Jagai and Madhai, it issaid, had committed so many sinfulactivities- it was inconceivable! In theCaitanya Bhagavat, we find a description of the sinful activities of Jagai and Madhai.And it is described there that Yamaraja, hehas an assistant who is his scribe, he keepsall the records, and this person is CitraGupta.

And Citra Gupta, hes in charge of thearchives, where all the sinful activities of people are recorded and he keeps goodrecords and he has many assistants who are

just writing it all down and keeping it allvery nicely. And then there are many, manymessengers. So it is said that of the time of Jagai and Madhais sinful activities, themessengers, they were running up and down

bringing more and more reports about thenext sinful activity that Jagai and Madhai

had performed and some of them fell

exhausted by the load size. It was just toomuch work!

And Citra Gupta did not know where to keep

all the records; there were just too manyrecords to keep.So if were thinking of Jagai and Madhai as

being sinful personalities, then we mustunderstand that they were practically like theemblem of sin personified. More sinful thanJagai and Madhai? How can anyone in theworld be more sinful than Jagai and Madhai?So how could Rupa and Sanatana say such athing?

So Rupa and Sanatana not only claimed thatthey were more sinful that Jagai and Madhai,


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but they also began to positively explainthat, Actually, Jagai and Madhai, they did alot of nonsense, undoubtedly. But they wereonly themselves, engaging in sinfulactivities.

But look at us- we have become theministers of the Yavanas, the meat-eaters,who are committing so many sinful activitiesand are protecting so many people who areengaging in sinful activities and therefore weare millions of times more sinful than Jagaiand Madhai because we are protecting somany Jagais and Madhais and in thisway, at that time Dabira Khasa and SakaraMallika (because they were ministers in theMuslim government known as Dabira Khasaand Sakara Mallika) these two brothers then,were describing their humility. And SriCaitanya Mahaprabhu, at one point, He said, Stop! Please stop it! I cannot tolerate thisany longer! It is too much! Stop talking likethis. This is intolerable! Your humility

breaks My heart He said. So in this way,

were seeing how the great devotees of Krsna are displaying this humility.]So here, Murari Gupta is also described as agreat and humble devotee. And at the sametime hes describes as a storehouse of love of God. So these two qualities, they cometogether- this quality of humility and thequality of being able to develop love of God.It is not possible to develop love of God if there is no humility in our hearts. So we seethat a person who is proud, how can he hear?

His ears are blocked because he is

overwhelmed by his own ideas that hecannot even hear what everyone else says

and just only when people sort of confirmhis own ideas, Yes, yes and otherwise, NoI dont agree. I totally dont agree with this.How can you say this?, because ones ownidea is so strong fixed in the mind, that onecannot even hear anything. But if one ishumble, then one can think, Yes, I need themercy.So a humble personality is eager tohear and by being eager to hear fromsuperior personalities,

this brings about also a special dynamics

thatwhen people are eager to hear, thenthe mature vaisnava who will speak and


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opens his heart, he will automatically, by theeagerness of the audience become veryenthusiastic and he will find that there are somany realizations in his heart that he didnteven know he had! He may say things that

he never thought and he himself will beamazed at what is coming out. Because inthe relationship of the vaisnavas, the moodis very intimate and close and one of deepfriendship- a mood of acceptance.

An envious person cannot accept.

Envious person will always find somereason not to accept others, hell always findsome quality in someone thats not allowed,something wrong: you cant sit like that,you cant look like that, you cant speak likethat, people that speak like that-unacceptable, people that come from acertain place- unacceptable and so on and soon. Just on some external feature, an envious

person will reject so many and basicallyanyone whos not supporting me, adoringme, recognising my greatness, such person is

undesirable! So humility is the qualitywhere one is ready to see good in others and

not only see the good in others but thereforealso recognises that everyone can make hiscontribution and one can appreciate. Soamongst vaisnavas, there is an atmosphereof appreciation. I like this point. For

example, it is said then, when SanatanaGoswami had been in the Muslimgovernment, he left and Sanatana Goswamiwent to Jagannatha Puri. And when SanatanaGoswami came to Jagannatha Puri, then hemet the associates of Sri CaitanyaMahaprabhu for the first time. And theywere all seated with Sri CaitanyaMahaprabhu on a raised platform and then,Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was very happy tosee Sanatana Goswami. He had already methim in Varanasi, He had already instructedhim there and He wanted now to introducehim to all the vaisnavas. So as He began tointroduce him to all the different vaisnavas,it is said that Sanatana Goswami offered hisobeisances to all these associates of SriCaitanya Mahaprabhu. And it is said that thevaisnavas, they offered him friendship,honour and appreciation. So this is very nice

because we see that in the vaisnavarelationships, there are all the ingredients of genuine loving relationships.

It is not that we are all by ourselves justdeveloping our love for Krsna and that weare just mostly interested in Krsna and thensort of also together with devotees; no, weare together with devotees and we see on theone hand that the devotees are displayingthis extraordinary humility and that thedevotees are presenting themselves ashaving no good qualities at all. Devotees,like for example, Krsnadas KavirajaGoswami writes these verses that, Imlower than a worm in stool and anyone who
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sees me loses all his pious credits. So thatslike on the humble side, isnt it! I mean bymodern standards, somebody like that, theywould send them to a psychiatrist- lack of self-esteem, has certainly a serious mental

problem!

But extreme: lower than a worm in stool,anyone who sees me loses all his pious

credits. But then, Srila Krsnadas KavirajaGoswami is also continuing to pray and he issaying that, But I am so fortunate, that inspite of the fact that I have no qualification,

but I have received the mercy of Lord Nityananda. How amazing is the mercy of Lord Nityananda that He even gave it tosuch a sinful rascal as me!

So, in this way, the humility of the vaisnavawho sees no good quality in himself is notthe same as the inferiority complex of someone who thinks, I have no good

qualities. I am a loser. I cant do anything. Imean, wherever I go I do everything wrong.

Let me jump off a bridge Thats not themood of humility although we see that suchvaisnavas see themselves in such a fallenway. But they always remember that theyhave received the mercy of Sri Caitanya

Mahaprabhu, in this case of Lord Nityananda.So in that way the humility of the vaisnava isnot one of depression but is one of happinessat the same time because although Imfallen, Ive got the mercy. So it is genuinehappiness also. And the vaisnavas, it is said,they are not interested in anything in returnfor their service. The vaisnavas are notasking Krsna for anything. Vaisnavas are notasking Krsna for any reward, they dont say,Please solve my problems. Please give mewealth, give me all material opulences.Vaisnavas have no interest, vaisnavas are notasking for promotion to heavenly planets,vaisnavas are not asking for liberation either.So theyre not asking for material enjoymentnor are they asking to be promoted from thematerial world to the spiritual realm- theyrenot asking. And they are not actuallyinterested. So it is said that the vaisnavas arenot really asking any reward from Krsna.

That is true, but still the vaisnavaswe see

when Sanatana Goswami came, they gavehim friendship, they gave him honour and
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they gave him appreciation. Why, if he wasso humble, why if the vaisnavas are sohumble, why did he need to be honoured? Imean, didnt he cover his ears and walk away? And say, no! Dont speak any glory

of me! This is like intolerable! Let me goaway from here Why did he even acceptit? Because they were offerings with genuineappreciation and love, so what to do! And hehad to accept because how could hedisappoint these vaisnavas by harshlywalking away? And say, No! Dont glorifyme! What to do! He had to toleratealthough he did not like to be glorified, butstill he was glorified.So, the vaisnavas honour one another, thevaisnavas appreciate one another andappreciate each others service to Krsna.And that is very much part of devotionalservice. We can dress the Deities and we candress Them very nicely, we can make a lot of work out of it. Not just quick, but really takethe time,

prepare it nicely, bring all kinds of nicethings: flower garlands; not one, two, three

but like really lay it before and make a

sometimes they cut with scissors, sometimesa whole work of art! Takes hours of verynice garlands, one can make so manydecorations to enhance the beauty of Krsna;not to sort of enhance the glory of the pujari

but actuallysome may dress you know, butto enhance the glory of the Deity one can dosuch service.

And although the vaisnavas are humble andare not in a mood of taking credit, I didthat! still it is very wonderful and the other vaisnavas are seeing, Oh! You did suchwonderful service to Krsna! That was reallywonderful! becausenot that we need to be

placed on a big pedestal and everyone says,You are so glorious! but we need to share,we need friends to understand, people whoknow; not just someone who says, Oh ya,very beautiful! but if people who reallyknow how to dress Deities, they say, Oh!Look at that garland!

who actually know and see what we did,

then we share. And in this way we share theecstasy. So in this way there is honour and


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recognition which is not the type of honour that is glorifying us for our greatness, I amso great! Yes! Finally youre recognising. Iwondered how long it was going to take.But there is a sense of brotherhood, the sense

of comradely, the sense of serving Krsnatogether and in a competition and sometimeswe see how someone is doing, an amazingthing, much better that we could have ever done and we generously say, this iswonderful, wonderful, wonderful! Sadhu,sadhu! Glory, glory! How nice how youreworshipping Krsna! and in this way thevaisnavas are very close together. We are allvery close together.I had never imagined that, when I finally

joined the Hare Krsna movement, I couldnever imagine that so many people weretogether! In fact, the first time I ever saw thedevotees, they came in my town in a littlegrey van and the back door flapped open andso many little pink men came out! Toomany! It was just something like; its not

possible that so many people can come outfrom one car! What is going on? Where arethey from?

Where have they just landed from? And theymade a line and they came in my directionand I was like sweating! And I just escapedinto a shop and I looked from behind thewindow and someone next to me said, Its adangerous cult! It looks dangerous! So eventhe first time I saw the devotees, I saw themin a situation where they were all packedtogether. And then when I finally moved intothe temple, it was so packed that temple, thateverywhere devotees were sleeping at night:on the landing of the staircase devotees weresleeping, sometimes when the sankirtana

devotees were back, the last devotee wouldsleep in the bathroom, devotees would sleepin the kitchen, devotees would sleepeverywhere! So, we are close together. Inever thought that so many people could

stay in one house as Im seeing in the HareKrsna movement; so many people packed inone room. I never thought it was possible!The one who built that stairs, never thoughtthat so many people would sit on it!

But somehow or other by the mercy of Krsna, its holding up! So this is our movement- close together! It is good, weneed each other. We very much need eachother. Alone, well never be Krsnaconscious. Its not possible. We are notstrong at all. Theres nobody strong. Andeveryone has his strong moments, everyonehas his weak moments and we all needothers with us because then theres alwayssomeone who is enthusiastic.Theres a famous story about Visnujana,which I like a lot, and the story is thatsomeone asked Visnujana, (Visnujana, for those who dont know, was a very famouskirtana leader) so someone asked Visnujana,

Why are you always so enthusiastic inkirtana?

Where are you getting this amazing energyfrom? Visnujana said, Actually Im notalways enthusiastic in kirtana, but I just act


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enthusiastic, then the devotees becomeenthusiastic and that makes meenthusiastic! thats such a nice story

because it really describes the reality of our life. And thats why I like this story because

its really how it works; its how it worksactually. Sometimes we forget who we reallyare and we see ourselves walking aroundwith our neck beads, our kavaca, our

brahmana threads, all the attributes we haveand all the slokas we know and all the other things, and we think, Well, we are actuallyvaisnavas! and in the sense of like realvaisnavas but somehow or other, we arevaisnavas very much by the grace of SriCaitanya Mahaprabhu and Lord

Nithyananda, somehow or other we are here.

And by the grace of the Lord and His puredevotee, Srila Prabhupada, somehow or other we are here.

I was just in Spain, and there we had the

visit of Laxmimoni mataji who gave oneclass and it was very nice actually. Shes of

course one of the early devotees who joinedin 1969, and she said, We had so much faithin Prabhupada, we had so much faith thatwhatever he said, we just totally believedthat it would work and that Krsnas blessing

would be there and therefore whatever hesaid, we just did it! We were 19, 20 and hewould just send us to another country, somestrange country where wed never been, wedidnt speak the language or anything andwe had no idea how we were gonna survivethere. There was no money, no place to stay,nothing. But we just went and we had fullfaith that it would work. We just did it, we

just did it! So that is so nice, and it worked.And in fact, then time changed. In 1999 Iwas doing a seminar which is called From66 to 99, you can look at my fingers- from66 to 99! So in 66 everything was, Yes,Yes were all going back to Godhead! Nodoubt about it. In 99, the mood was, If your guru is a Paramahamsa priyasakhi andsomehow or other you get the rightassociation and you surrender completely tothe process, then maybe after many, manylifetimes, theoretically it is possible thatsomeone may go back to Godhead!Weve never seen it happen; it doesnt reallyhappen. But there is a rumour thatPrabhupada said, some people say thatPrabhupada said (were not even sure) thatyou can go back to godhead in this verylifetime!

Thats likecome on! Bizarre! So anyway,From 66 to 99 was the seminar. It wasreally interesting. And then now we have theISKCON of the new millennium- whatever that is, Im trying to figure it out! Butwhatever may be, here we are. But the pointis that actually, nothing has changed.

Nothing has changed. The same potency isstill here now. Srila Prabhupada brought the

very same potency that was available to theassociates of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu; he
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brought the very same process. He broughteverything that the associates of Sri CaitanyaMahaprabhu got from Lord Caitanyadirectly; Prabhupada brought it to thehippies on the lower east side. And now, it is

still there! And if one simply takes up the process with great faith and just follow itand be sure that everything will be all right,if we take shelter of the process, of thesimple process to chant Hare Krsna and to

preach Krsna consciousness, to take shelter of these books, read Prabhupadas books;then surely everything will happen.

It is said that Haridas Thakura was once withSri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Sri CaitanyaMahaprabhu was asking. What about allthose living entities who are in very low

bodies, who cannot chant? Such as the treesand all kind of species that cannot chant,

what about them?

Haridas said, No problem my Lord! Theyare already delivered. Just the echo of the

chanting that bounces off the trees willdeliver the trees and those living beings that

hear the chanting, they also will bedelivered. And Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhuwas saying that how could have Haridasunderstood His purpose. So this is a verysignificant pastime because from that

pastime we can understand that studying the books is not an intellectual, academic pursuit. It is not a matter of analysing the book this way and that way and trying toreally philosophically understand the book.That is important- if we have that capacity.But, the essence is more to take the spirit atheart and if we simply take up the mood of faith- the same mood of faith that isdisplayed by the great devotees of SriCaitanya Mahaprabhu; who totally believedthat if you take shelter of the Holy Name andsimply glorify Krsna that all success will bethere.

Like Srivasa PanditaOne day LordCaitanya said, Srivasa, youre having ahouse, youre having a family, you havingmany servants and you know, I never seeyou go out to work!
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So how are you actually maintaining allthis? Srivasa said, My Lord, I promiseyou, I will never work!My Lord, if You will not maintain us, then

me and my family, we will simply fast. Andif the second day You will not maintain us,

we will simply fast. And if the third day Youwill not maintain us, we will simply jump inthe river and drown ourselves!No Srivasa! Please, dont do that! In your house, there never will be shortage of anything.So, in this way, Srivasa did not work. But hedid not sleep all day -or night; he was alwaysworshipping Krsna- 24 hours day glorifyingKrsna, worshipping Krsna, sometimes out onharinama, preaching, other times going deep,

deep in worshipping Krsna, and in this wayeverything came. So this faith, this full faiththat if we just give our life to Krsna, thatthen automatically everything will follow,everything will work out- that spirit is whatis needed.

Not that it means that we can never dosomething to make some money, thats notwhat I meant to say. But what I meant to sayis we should just not worry about our material security. We should just really gofor it, go for Krsna consciousness! Andsurely, all success will come and we too, justlike the associates of Sri CaitanyaMahaprabhu will become surcharged withtranscendental energy and ecstasy, we toowill taste the greatest mercy of Sri CaitanyaMahaprabhu, we too will experience theecstasy of developing love for Krsna!

So thank you very much!
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