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EC Interim – 5 Oct 2010Date: 2010-10-05

Name Affiliations Address Phone email Jon Rosdahl CSR 10871 N 5750 W

Highland, UT 84003 801-492-4023 jrosdahl@ieee.org

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Abstract

Meeting Agenda and proposed information for the 802 EC Interim Call for 5 Oct 2010.

R0 had the draft agenda

R1 has the approved agenda

R2 has discussion added for Bruce and James’ topics.

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Approved Agenda1. Welcome: Paul Nikolich

1. Roll call – James Gilb

2. P&P reminders for the meeting. – Paul Nikolich

2. Press release, liaisons, MOU, etc. items1. ITU communication; Roger Marks

3. IEEE-SA items1. Single channel sales update; Paul Nikolich, Buzz Rigsbee

2. Report summarizing the SEP10 JTC1/SC6 meeting; Bruce Kraemer

3. Conditional approval to forward 15.7 to Sponsor Ballot; Bob Heile

4. Last Minute additions to Agenda:1. Announcements from Paul

1. Treasurer Position

2. Hotel Stay Policy discussion

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Welcome

• Roll call – James Gilb

• P&P reminders for the meeting. – Paul Nikolich–

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Press release, liaisons, MOU, etc. items

• ITU communication; Roger Marks18-10-0058-06.

• Move to approve 18-10-0058r6-Submission to WP 5A M2M – “Input towards working documents on Objectives and requirements for

mobile wireless access systems for communications to a large number of ubiquitous sensors and/or actuators scattered over wide areas in the land mobile service “

– https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/10/18-10-0058-06-0000-submission-to-wp-5a-m2m.doc

– Moved: Michael Lynch

– Seconded: Roger Marks

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IEEE-SA items

• Single channel sales update; Paul Nikolich, Buzz Rigsbee

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IEEE-SA items

• Report summarizing the SEP10 JTC1/SC6 meeting; Bruce Kraemer– Based upon Monday and Tuesday ISO meetings I suggest we

discuss the following. No presentations are attached here but I'll organize them on a stick if someone wants them.

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SEP 10 JTC1/SC6 Report (1):

 1.  Although discussions were at a high level there was a fair amount of technical review of new project proposals. Surprisingly similar to a new PAR proposal going into the 802 EC.

 2.  The reaction to my attendance was positive and friendly but they considered me to be some combination of IEEE 802, IEEE-SA and US delegation representative.

 3.  The convener almost immediately asked if I had solved the copyright problem. The comment could have been directly phrased as "When will the IEEE accept that they have no copyright claims?"

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SEP 10 JTC1/SC6 Report (2):

 1.  Several papers proposing to begin new study periods  were presented by China . Most are oriented to revised security. One on a new wireless technology to replace 802.11. I expressed all of the concerns of the IEEE in representation of IEEE standards capabilities & issues and the desire to actively coordinate changes with the IEEE. There seemed to be agreement coordination was required - form of coordination TBD. There should have been an organized/prepared response from the IEEE during the meeting- late submission prevented this. Follow up presentation by the IEEE is advised.

2.  It would not be surprising if several of the topics now skip the study group phase and are resubmitted to the June 2011 meeting as NPs.

3.  Given the attendance & voting mix I am sure that China will continue to use the ISO forum as a venue to augment or replace IEEE standards as exemplified by the recent round of study project proposals.

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SEP 10 JTC1/SC6 Report (3):

 4.  China has been advised to approach their project requests as "stand alone" to get around copyright concerns and perhaps coordination with IEEE. The result will be the equivalent of an amendment  that makes references to the pieces of IEEE standards that it ties into. 

5.  The secretariat indicated that documents received after the submission deadlines were not candidates for resolutions this week. Need to confirm this was observed and review resolutions actually considered in the Friday plenary.

6.  There was no discussion of the IEEE PSDO agreement or renewal. What is the status?

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SEP 10 JTC1/SC6 Report (4):

7.  WG1 had the most attendees of the groups meeting there. Out of the  22 WG1 attendees , China, Korea, Japan had ~6 reps each. The IEEE/US was severely under-represented. The next meeting in the US (San Diego June 20-24 2011) should help solve this problem.

8.  802.11 is the only 802 group submitting documents to JTC1. The IEEE 802.11 liaison documents and draft documents were part of the agenda. I explained the response to China's liaison and the overall document provision strategy. There were a couple of  procedural questions but no technical comments.

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IEEE-SA items

• Conditional approval to forward 15.7 to Sponsor Ballot; Bob Heile– The following 3 slides are from

https://mentor.ieee.org/802.15/dcn/10/15-10-0819-00-0000-ec-motion-vlc-conditional.ppt

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Conditional Approval to Start Sponsor Ballot on P802.15.7-Visible Light Communications

Working Group Letter Ballot Results to date:

• Number of voters=212

– Initial Letter Ballot results:

• 151 voted (71.2%)

• 104 yes (84.5%), 19 no, 28 abstain (18.54%)

– First Recirculation

• 160 voted (75.47%)

• 117 yes (90%), 13 no, 30 abstain

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Conditional Approval to Start Sponsor Ballot on P802.15.7-Visible Light Communications

Comments Received (15-10-0681-11-0007-lb57-combined-comment-sheet)

– 397 editorial (2 “must be satisfied”)

– 413 technical (285 “must be satisfied”)

Current Disposition

– 280 “must be satisfieds” accepted or accepted in principal – 7 comments (1E, 7T) rejected from 2 No Voters (see rejected comment

spreadsheet for comments and details)

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Conditional Approval to Start Sponsor Ballot on P802.15.7-Visible Light Communications

• Motion:– Request the EC grant conditional approval, per the

IEEE 802 Operations Manual, to forward P802.15.7 to Sponsor Ballot.

Moved:    Bob Heile

Seconded: James Gilb

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Last minute items

• Announcement: – Treasurer Position – Paul Nikolich

• Hotel Stay Policy – Discussion/Chair Ruling – James Gilb

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EC Mail Letter ballot Motion discussion

• E-mail Motion:– In order to avoid paying the US$300 surcharge on the registration

fee, a Hotel Stay of at least 2 nights booking and staying in the 802 contracted hotel. The effect of voting “No” on this motion is that a a Hotel stay is defined as at least one night booking and staying in the 802 contracted hotel. Effective beginning with the Nov 2010 Meeting.

– RE: clarification on motion 8.05 from Nov 2009 closing plenary.

– This will be an E-Mail Motion after today’s call. To be made by James Gilb and 2nd by David Law.