yvelani ``qarTuli ocnebis~ aaqciaze radgan sisxlis saSualebiT gadadis mTel organizmSi da ujredebSi...

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#31 (215) 11-17.VII.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 larixelisuflebam ver gaigo,

rom biZina ivaniSvili

krizisuli situaciebis

marTvis menejeria _

es gansakuTrebuli

fsiqotipia, romelic

marTvis pultTan mokvdeba,

magram fexs ar moicvlis...

`nebayoflobiTi~warwymeda

anu vis mxaresaa

eklesia?

`faSistur-nacionaluri~ saqarTvelo da branwi

`paTologiis muzeumidan~

saakaSvili

xalxis ndobas

ver daayadaRebs

vano merabiSvilsgadarCenis erTaderTigza aqvs _ unda gadadges

da aqedangaiqces...

biZina ivaniSvilTan CvensSexvedras is Zalebiblokaven, romlebicivaniSvils nel-nela

amzadeben dasamarcxebladSeiZleba, xelisuflebam daiwyos

gegmis Semogdeba, TiTqos, miSa, vano

an koduebi da sxvebi erTmaneTs upi-

rispirdebian, rom amiT opozicia mi-

ityuon mosalaparakeblad. movuwo-

deb opozicias: ar gadadgas arc erTi

nabiji amaTken.

dauSvebelia imis fiqrad gavlebac ki, rom SeiZleba

saakaSvilis cixeSi biZina

ivaniSvili ijdes

ukraina quxs,

saqarTvelo dums...

saWesTan mjdarma mixeilsaakaSvilma kaci rom

gaitana, amaze informacia badri patarkaciSvilshqonda da amis SesaxeberTma misma axlobelma

politikosmac icis...

absurduli mizezebiT dajari-

mebuli ivaniSvili, aqaoda, mili-

onebs ar gvixdiso, xelisuflebam

is qoneba daayadaRa, anu `qarTu

jgufi~ da `qarTu banki~, rome-

lic qvelmoqmed politikoss re-

alurad arc arasdros ekuTuno-

da. `qarTu jgufis~ aqcionerebma

sasamarTlos ukve mimarTes maT

kuTvnil qonebaze yadaRis moxs-

nis moTxovniT, ra drosac, wesiT,

auqcioni unda SeCerdes.

`saerTo gazeTs~ aRniSnul sa-

kiTxebTan dakavSirebiT biZina

ivaniSvilis advokati arCilkbilaSvili da ucxoel aqci-

onerTa advokati paata kikna-veliZe esaubrnen.

arCil kbilaSvili: àuq-

cionze gatanil qonebasTan biZina

ivaniSvils aranairi Sexeba ar

aqvs. garkveuli kavSiri mimdinare

wlis 30 aprilamde arsebobda,

Tanac e.w. mesame doneze, sazRvar-

gareTul iurisdiqciaSi, rome-

lic, romc darCeniliyo ZalaSi,

mainc ar iqneboda darRveva, anu

ar SeiZleboda auqcionze gaeta-

naT. miuxedavad amisa, 30 aprils

`qarTu jgufis~ mTeli paketi 11

ucxour kompaniaze gasxvisda,

sruliad sxva mesakuTreebi hyavs.

ufro konkretulad agixsniT, ar-

sebobs saaqcio sazogadoeba `qar-

Tu jgufi~, romelsac ekuTvnis

`qarTu banki~ da sxva uZravi qo-

nebac. 30 aprilamde `qarTu jgu-

fis~ aqciebi eqvs kompanias ekuT-

vnoda, aqedan oTxi ucxouri iyo,

ori qarTuli, Tumca aqac iyvnen

ucxoeli partniorebi. sazRvarga-

reT am oTxi kompaniis ukan mesa-

kuTre iyo biZina ivaniSvili. aris

mcdeloba `qarTu jgufi~ xelSi

Caigdon, radgan, am SemTxvevaSi,

`qarTu banki~ da sxva uZravi qo-

nebac, avtomaturad gadava axali

mflobelis xelSi. erovnuli ban-

ki rom imizezebs `qarTu bankis~

aqciebis gasxvisebis Sesaxeb Cven-

Tvis ar ucnobebiaTo, kanonis Ta-

naxmad, erovnuli bankis nebarTva

maSinaa saWiro, Tu komerciuli

bankis aqciebis 10%-ze meti

sxvisdeba. pirvel dones Tu gan-

vixilavT, `qarTu bankis~ aqciebi

`qarTu jgufs~ ekuTvnoda, aq

cvlileba ar momxdara, amitom

informacia erovnuli bankisTvis

arc unda waredginaT. meore do-

nezec rom gaavrcelon igive

moTxovna, Tu gasxviseba 10%-s

qvemoT xdeba da SemZeni 10%-ze

naklebs iZens, mas nebarTva ar

sWirdeba. 11 subieqtma iyida es

aqciebi, ase rom, TiToeulis wi-

li 7-8%-is farglebSia. mesame

dones ki es isedac ar sWirdeba,

radgan is sazRvargareTaa. biZina

ivaniSvilma Tavisi sazRvargare-

Tuli saxli rom gayidos, mas ar

sWirdeba saqarTvelos iurisdiq-

ciasTan kavSiri da nebarTva. sa-

qarTvelos xelisufleba ki am

yvelafers yuradRebas ar aqcevs

da biZina ivaniSvils pirveli do-

nis mesakuTred Tvlis.

maincdamainc arc advokat paa-

ta kiknaveliZes sjera, rom xeli-

sufleba xsenebul auqcions Sea-

Cerebs, Tumca isic cxadia, rom

ucxoeli mesakuTreebi, saakaSvi-

lis jibis sasamarTlosa da sa-

xelSecvlili kontrolis pala-

tis gadawyvetilebebs udrtvinve-

lad ar daTanxmdebian da sakuTa-

ri interesebis dasacavad brZo-

las gaagrZeleben.

paata kiknaveliZe: `me ga-

miWirdeba winaswar imis Tqma, mo-

samarTle ra gadawyvetilebas mi-

iRebs auqcionis SeCerebasTan da-

kavSirebiT, Tumca qonebaze nebis-

mieri kerZo davisas, mxaris uf-

lebebis darRveva rom ar moxdes,

sasamarTlo yadaRas

adebs sadavo qonebas.

amiT Tavidan icilebs

am qonebis gasxvisebas

an ipoTekiT datvirT-

vas. analogiuri tipis

samarTlebrivi dacvis

saSualebaa auqcionis

SeCereba. Tu mosamar-

Tlem auqcioni ar Se-

aCera, am SemTxvevaSi,

arsebiTad raRa unda

ganixilos, Tuki qone-

bis realizacia moxda,

yadaRisgan ras gaaTa-

visuflebs? amitom logikuri da

samarTlebrivia SeCereba, SeaCe-

rebda kidec, es Cveulebrivi ker-

Zo dava rom iyos da ara poli-

tikuri sakiTxi. xelisuflebas am

saqmeSi arasamarTlebrivi intere-

sebi gaaCnia, rac xels uSlis sa-

kiTxis samarTlebriv gadawyvetas.

Tu auqcioni ar SeCerda, amis

Semdeg adgilobriv sasamarTloSi

axal sarCels SevitanT da mo-

viTxovT, rom mTlianad Semowm-

des saaRmsrulebo warmoebis ka-

noniereba. unda gairkves, ramde-

nad kanonieria yadaRis dadebis

aqti, rogorc administraciul-

samarTlebrivi aqti, hqonda

Tu ara sasamarTlo aRmas-

rulebels imis ufleba, rom

erTi pirisgan jarimis amo-

Rebis mizniT, yadaRa daedo

sxva piris sakuTrebaSi ar-

sebul qonebaze, ramdenad

kanonieria, aqedan gamomdina-

re, aRmasruleblis gankar-

guleba, auqcionSi SesaZlo

monawile romelime pirisT-

vis am aqciebis gadacemis,

xolo Tu auqcioni ar Sed-

ga, saxelmwifosTvis natu-

ris gadacemis Sesaxeb. ase rom,

arsebobs Sida saxelmwifoebrivi

meqanizmebi, amis paralelurad

arsebobs saerTaSoriso samarT-

lebrivi meqanizmebic. saqarTvelo

mierTebulia ìqsidis~ konvenci-

as, romelic nebismier ucxoel

investors uflebas aniWebs, rom

man Tavisi uflebebis dasacavad,

ara adgilobriv sasamarTlos,

aramed uSualod sainvesticio

davebis saerTaSoriso centrs

(vaSingtoni) mimarTos.

dayadaRebis aqtSi ar aris mi-

TiTebuli visi sakuTrebaa es aq-

ciebi. biZina ivaniSvils ver miu-

TiTebdnen, radgan aqciaTa reest-

rSi ar arsebobs Sesabamisi Cana-

weri, sxva subieqti rom mieTiTe-

binaT, Seusabamoba iqneboda, erTs

Tu ekisreba jarimis gadaxda, me-

ores ratom uyadaReben qonebaso.

erTi sityviT, TvalsaCinod ar

gamoaCines konkretuli subieqti.

saqarTvelos mTavrobam kargad

icis, rom maTi gadawyvetilebis

aRsrulebis Sansi arc erT evro-

pul saxelmwifoSi ar arsebobs,

amitom am zomas ar mimarTes, sa-

qarTveloSi ki risi gakeTebac

undaT, akeTeben, radgan ician,

rom win veravin daudgeba.

manana suxiSvili

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wuxel baTumSi evropis

saxalxo partiis Tavmjdo-

mare vilfred martensi Ca-

mobrZanda da Riad dauWira

mxari `nacmoZraobas~ da

mis liders, romlebsac Ta-

vianTi swori politikiT

evrointegraciisken mihyavT

saqarTvelo, rasac Turme

òligarqi~ biZina ivaniSvi-

li uSlis xels.

saqarTvelos evroin-

tegracia _ es is avantiu-

ra da demagogiaa, romlis

iqiT qarTvelTa gadagvare-

bis da gadakeTebis mzakv-

ruli gegma imaleba, ro-

melsac didi xalisiT da

sibejiTiT anxorcieleben

saqarTvelos amJamindeli

xelisufalni.

evroparlamentis war-

momadgenelTa erTi nawi-

lis da personalurad ev-

ropis saxalxo partiis Se-

teva biZina ivaniSvilze ar

aris arainformaciulobiT

gamowveuli Secdoma.

maT SesaniSnavad ician,

vin aris biZina ivaniSvili,

ician, ra gaukeTebia mas sa-

qarTvelosTvis, ra gauke-

Tebia misi gadarCenisa da

aRorZinebisTvis.

maT ician, rombiZina ivaniSvilisx e l i s u f l e b a S imosvliT iqmneba`saSiSroeba~, sa-qarTvelom gaixse-nos sakuTari Tavi,daibrunos Rirse-bis grZnoba, daib-runos mxneoba daara sxvis niadagze,aramed erovnulsaZirkvelze aaSe-nos namdvili qar-Tuli saxelmwifo,rac aramc da aramcar Sedis qarTvel-Ta gaevropeleba-gadajiSebis mo-surneTa gegmaSi.

ai, swored amiT iyo ga-

mowveuli evroparlamentis

sxdomaze biZina ivaniSvi-

lis misamarTiT ganxorcie-

lebuli gaafTrebuli Tav-

dasxma, romelsac Tamamad

SeiZleba vuwodoT ideo-

logiuri teraqti, rome-

lic, vfiqrob, personalu-

rad mxolod ivaniSvilis

ki ara mTeli saqarTvelos

winaaRmdeg iyo mimarTuli.

amiTaa gamowveuli mar-

tensebis da lancbergisebis

mzakvruli miniSnebebi qar-

Tul faSizmsa da nacizmze.

Tu qarTvelebienis, mamulis dasarwmunoebis da-sacavad xmis amoRe-bas vbedavT, e.i. fa-Sistebi da nacis-tebi varT?

axla jeri qarTvel

xalxzea, romelic darwmu-

nebuli var, sakadris pa-

suxs gascems am aramkiTxe

`keTilismyofelebs~ kan-

toridan saxelad èvro-

parlamenti~.

P.S. aaddrree eevvrrooppaarrllaammeenn-

ttiiss ssaaxxeelliiTT mmaaTTiiaass iioorrSSii

ddaaddiiooddaa aaqq aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss ddrr-

ooss ddaa,, rrooggoorrcc aammbboobbeenn,, ggaa-

yyaallbbeebbuullii aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss `̀ggaapp-

rraavveebbiiTT~~ ddiidd ffuullss SSoouu-

lloobbddaa..

iioorrSSss,, eettyyoobbaa,, mmaarrttee-

nnsseebbii CCaaeennaaccvvllnneenn ddaa mmoommaa-

vvaall ssaapprraallmmeennttoo aarrCCeevvnneebb-

SSii aaxxllaa iissiinnii `̀ddaaggvvaakkvviirr-

ddeebbiiaann~~,, rroomm mmeerree ddiiddii hhoo-

nnoorraarreebbiiss ssaannaaccvvlloodd qqaarrTT-

vveellii xxaallxxiiss aarrCCeevvaannii

kkvvllaavv uuttiiffrraadd ggaaaayyaallbboonn..

__ ddaammiijjeerreeTT,, ddiiddii ddaakk-

vviirrvveebbaaaa ssaaWWiirroo aamm TTvvaallTT-

mmaaqqcc ddaammkkvviirrvveebblleebbzzee,, TToo-

rreemm iissiinnii ZZvveellii mmeeTTooddeebbiiTT

iisseevv aaggvvaaffccqqvvnniiaann mmoommaavvaallss,,

rrooggoorrcc eess aarraaeerrTTggzziiss ggaa-

uukkeeTTeebbiiaaTT......

vaxtang xarCilava

redaqtoris sveti

auqcionze gatanil qonebasTan biZina ivaniSvils

aranairi Sexeba ar aqvs...

3#31 (215), 11-17.VII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

socialuri

qselidan:

`veTanxmebi `saerTo gazeTis~ wina nomerSi gamoTqmul mosazre-

bas, rom xelisuflebis mier ganxorcielebuli sakadro cvlilebebi

erTaderT mizans emsaxureba: _ ivlis-agvistos TveSi gadamwyveti

ieriSi miitanos biZina ivaniSvilze, aRZras mis winaaRmdeg sisxlis

samarTlis saqme da Zalismieri meTodebis gamoyenebiT an daakavos

igi, an aiZulos, qveyana datovos.

es realuri safrTxea, Tumca am realuri safrTxis Tavidan asaci-

leblad jerjerobiT araferi keTdeba.

xalxo, ra vqnaT? davsxdeT da gulxeldakrefilebma vuyuroT,

rogor uswordebian moZaladeebi saqarTvelosTvis Tavdadebul am

did mamuliSvils?

sanam unda gagrZeldes ase?

maincdamainc ivaniSvilma unda gviTxras, miSveleTo, Cven TviTon

ratom ver vxvdebiT, ra unda gavakeToT da ra unda movimoqmedoT?

vfiqrob, Cven, xalxma, Cveni iniciativiT unda gavmarToT ivaniS-

vilis mxardamWeri didi mitingi, marTlac saerTo-saxalxo xasiaTis

Tavyriloba da am xelisuflebas Riad vuTxraT, rom biZina ivaniSvi-

lis politikur devnas, mis Seviwroebas, mis Seuracxyofas da masze

Zaladobas ar davanebebT.

am aqciaze aucileblad unda moviwvioT saqarTveloSi akredite-

buli saelCoebi, evrokavSiris, evrosabWos, sxvadasxva saerTaSori-

so organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi.

movidnen da dagvTvalon, ramdenni varT!

movidnen da mogvisminon, ra gvinda!

movidnen da waikiTxon, ra ewereba Cvens transparantebze!

mSvidobiani gziT, maRali moqalaqeobrivi SegnebiT da pasuxism-

geblobiT da, rac mTavaria, erTianobiT, yvela winaaRmdegobis daZ-

leva SeiZleba.

SemogvierTdiT!

4 saerTo gazeTi #31 (215), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.

ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa `̀mmwwvvaanneeTTaa ppaarrttii-

iiss~~ lliiddeerrii giorgi gaCeCi-laZe..

_ batono gia, lilos dasax-

lebaSi qloris gaJonvis Sedegad

uamravi adamiani moiwamla. ofi-

cialuri monacemebiT, 80 adamia-

ni mowamlula, Tumca moaruli

xmebiT, maTi raodenoba gacile-

biT metia. mowamvlis safrTxe

isev Tu arsebobs da qloris

garda, iq sxva momwamvleli niv-

Tierebebic xom ar iyo?

_ RmerTma gviSvela, wvimebi

rom movida, Torem es momwamv-

leli nivTiereba Zalze didi

masStabiT gavrceldeboda. ube-

dureba isaa, rom 2010 wels ga-

auqmes kanoni `saSiSi nivTiere-

bebis Sesaxeb~, romelic aregu-

lirebda amgvar nivTierebebTan

mopyrobas, anu maTi dasawyobe-

bis, gadazidvis, eqsport-impor-

tis, Senaxvis wesebis dacvas. am

kanonis mixedviT, akrZaluli

iyo dasaxlebuli punqtebis si-

axloves amdagvari nivTierebebis

ganTavseba, radgan es safrTxis

Semcvelia. im sacavSi mxolod

qlori iyo, radgan is firma

`Tbilis-wyalmomaragebas~, anu

isev ruseTs emsaxureba, rome-

lic mas xelSi nacionalebma Ca-

ugdes. es mimwodebeli firma

iranulia. aq marto is ki ar

aris saintereso, rac moxda,

aramed is, rom, roca tenderi

gamocxadda qloris miwodebas-

Tan dakavSirebiT, `jorjian vo-

Ter end fauerma~, miuxedavad

imisa, rom ganacxadi uamrav

firmas hqonda wardgenili, mainc

da mainc upiratesoba am iranul

firmas mianiWa da mas gaamarjve-

bina, esec, ra Tqma unda, poli-

tikuri sakiTxi iyo. qlori nak-

lebad toqsikuri nu ggoniaT.

maRalkoncentrirebuli qlori

saSinlad toqsikuria da misi

SesunTqva filtvebis damwvro-

bas da saSinel mowamvlas iw-

vevs. adamiani cocxali romc ga-

darCes, qlori garkveuli peri-

odis ganmavlobaSi mainc muSa-

obs, radgan sisxlis saSualebiT

gadadis mTel organizmSi da

ujredebSi rCeba. filtvis dam-

wvrobis dros irRveva sisxlis

mimoqcevis sistema, ramac SeiZ-

leba tvinis ujredebis kvdoma

gamoiwvios.

me imave dRes mivawode medi-

as informacia, magram ratomRac

aravin gaaSuqa, rom arsebobs ka-

noni saSiSi nivTierebebiT zianis

miyenebis SemTxvevaSi zaralis

anazRaurebis Sesaxeb. ase rom,

yvela adamians, vinc ziani miiRo

am incidentTan dakavSirebiT,

ufleba aqvs kompensacia moiTxo-

vos da miiRos.

_ ori wlis win gauuqmebiaT

kanoni saxifaTo nivTierebebTan

dakavSirebiT da dazaralebu-

lebs kompensacias vinRa gadaux-

dis?

_ es kanoni ki gaauqmes,

magram ss-is kodeqsSi ar

gauqmebula Sesabamisi mux-

li. ase rom, dazaralebul

adamianebs kompensaciis mi-

Rebis ufleba aqvT, marto

viRacis dapatimrebiT prob-

lema ar amoiwureba. proku-

raturam unda Seiswavlos

is xelSekrulebebi, rome-

lic Tbilisis wyalmomaragebasa

da am firmas Sorisaa dadebuli

- ra pirobebis safuZvelze air-

Cies es firma, anu usafrTxoebis

ra garantiebis gamo mianiWes mas

prioriteti, Tu marto Tanxa

iyo maTTvis mniSvnelovani. Cven

isic ar viciT, iq sinamdvileSi

ra moxda, avzi gaskda Tu marT-

lac Tavi mosZvra. faqtia, rom

usafrTxoeba daculi ar iyo.

qlors aseTi Tviseba aqvs, Tu is

iseT avzSia moTavsebuli, Tanac

didi xniT, romelic kargad ar

aris gawmendili, azotTan iseT

naerTebs warmoSobs, romelic

feTqebadia. Tu es naerTebi dag-

rovda, SeiZleba afeTqda da avzi

gaskda. vimeoreb, me ar vici, iq

zustad ra moxda, magram aseTi

faqtebi arsebobs, amitomac us-

afrTxoebis dacvaa ZiriTadi

faqtori.

_ mosaxleobisa da arasamTav-

roboebis mxridan didi ukmayo-

fileba mohyva rusTavSi sacxov-

rebeli korpusebis siaxloves

gazgasamarTi sadguris mSeneb-

lobas. Turme es mSenebloba ka-

nonieri yofila da adgilobriv-

ma Cinovnikebma Tavi imiT imarT-

les, usafrTxoebis normebi sru-

lad iqneba daculio. arada, Ta-

vis droze, rogorc uSiSroebis

profesionalma kadrebma miTxres,

dauSvebelia mosaxleobis siax-

loves, miT umetes dedaqalaqSi

yovel nabijze benzingasamarTi

sadgurebis gaxsnac. mters te-

raqtebisTvis gansakuTrebuli

gegmis SemuSaveba arc daWirde-

ba, radgan TiTo mokidebuli

asanTis Reri rom Seagdon am

sadgurebSi, mTel Tbiliss haer-

Si aweveno. Tqveni azriT, am mSe-

neblobebze nebarTvebis gacema

ucodinarobiT xdeba Tu yvela-

feri fulTan asocirdeba?

- usafrTxoebasTan dakavSi-

rebuli sistemebi, vgulisxmob,

rogorc sagareo, ise Sida faq-

torebs, saxelmwifos preroga-

tivaa, man unda uzrunvelhyos,

rac sakanonmdeblo doneze xdeba.

rodesac saSineli korufciaa

qveyanaSi, Sesabamisi kanonmdeb-

loba romc arsebobdes, mas mainc

aravin aqcevs yuradRebas. mainc

aaSeneben, SeiZleba mepatrone ra-

Rac minimaluri TanxiT daajari-

mon, magram is im obieqts Seinar-

Cunebs da fuls gaakeTebs. Tanac

marto benzin da gazgasamarT

sadgurebze ar aris aq laparaki.

gnebavT, qloris es gaJonva avi-

RoT. garda amisa, imazec visaub-

roT, Tu rogor wamlaven mosax-

leobas sasmeli wyliTa da Tun-

dac adgilobrivi soflis meur-

neobis produqtebiT, importul-

ze aRarafers vambob. mimdinare

wlis martSi parlamentma miiRo

kanoni, romlis mixedviTac ker-

Zo subieqtebs yvelafris ufle-

ba miecaT, anu Tu fuls gadaix-

dian, SeuZliaT gaanadguron ga-

remo, gadawvan tyeebi, wyalSi

Caasxan Sxamebi, ufro metic,

adamianebs saxeSi Seasxuron

toqsikuri nivTierebebi da maT

amaze pasuxs aravin moTxovs. am

sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT `mwvaneTa

partiam~ aprilSi parlamentTan

xalxmravali aqciac moawyo,

Tumca, samwuxarod, bevrma tele-

viziam es ar gaaSuqa. kanonis Za-

laSi Sesvlis Semdeg velodebo-

diT, fulis gadaxdis sanacv-

lod, romel kompanias epatiebo-

da yvela is ss-is danaSauli,

romelic saqarTvelos winaaRm-

deg hqonda Cadenili. pirveli

`Sewyalebuli~ s/s `madneulisa~

da Sps `kvarcitis~ mflobeli

rusuli `kapital jgufia~, ro-

melic amuSavebs bolnisis saba-

doebs, mopovebuli oqrosa da

spilenZis eqsports eweva, ko-

losaluri odenobis fuls Sou-

lobs, samagierod, toqsikuri

nivTierebebiT wamlavs mTel

bolnisis raions. Cven xelSi

Cagvivarda am saSineli kanonis

safuZvelze miRebuli SeTanxmeba,

am rusul kompaniasa da saqarT-

velos energetikisa da bunebrivi

resursebis saministros Soris,

romlis mixedviTac `kapital

jgufs~ yvelaferi epatieba, ra-

Sic man 13 milioni lari unda

gadaixados, Tanac erTbaSad ki

ara, 2014 wlamde gawerili gra-

fikiT.

xsenebuli kanonis mixedviT,

aravis aqvs ufleba SeTanxmebiT

gansazRvrul periodSi Seamow-

mos, kontroli gauwios an rai-

me sxva RonisZieba gaataros im

kompaniebis mimarT, visac fuli

aqvs gadaxdili. xsenebuli sa-

warmoebidan gamosuli sawamlavi

Caedineba mdinare kazreTulasa

da maSaveraSi, aq gakeTebuli 31-

kilometriani sarwyavi sistemiT

ki 15 soflis savargulebi irwy-

veba. am soflebSi mcxovreb 7

aTas komls xom wamlaven da

iwamleba lamis mTeli qvemo qar-

Tli da Tbilisic, radgan iq mo-

weuli xili da bostneuli

yvelgan iyideba. qarTveli da

germaneli eqspertebis daskvne-

biT, sasmel da sarwyav wylebSi,

niadagSi, mcenareebsa da produq-

tSi iseTi maRaltoqsikuri niv-

Tierebebia gadasuli, rogoricaa

spilenZi, TuTia, kadmiumi, TiT-

beri da a.S. sasmel wyalSi am

mZime liTonebis Semcveloba da-

saSvebze 33-jer metia, sarwyav

wyalSi spilenZis Semcveloba

40-jer aRemateba dasaSvebs. ami-

tomacaa bolnisis raionSi daava-

debaTa mxriv katastrofuli

mdgomareoba - anemiebi, onkolo-

giuri daavadebebi, maxinji bavS-

vebis dabadeba. oficialuri mo-

nacemebiT, bolo aTi wlis gan-

mavlobaSi Tu mTel saqarTvelo-

Si gaormagda onkologiur daa-

vadebaTa raodenoba, bolnisis

raionSi oTxjer aris gazrdili.

ai, amaSi gadaaxdevines rusebs

fuli da igive unda gagrZeldes.

_ rogorc TviTmxilvelebma

miTxres, oqros da spilenZis mo-

poveba Ria karierebSi xdeba,

romlebsac Semdeg atmosferuli

naleqebi recxavs da es siTxe

yovelgvari gawmendis gareSe

mdinareSi Caedineba...

_ Ria karierebi mTel msof-

lioSi arsebobs, magram civili-

zebul qveynebSi usafrTxoeba

srulad aris uzrunvelyofili,

winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi iq momu-

Save kompaniebs marto gakotre-

bas ar akmareben, radgan im qvey-

nebSi mZlavri kanonmdebloba

moqmedebs. iq Tu arsebobs usaf-

rTxoebis damcavi teqnologiebi,

ratom ar SeiZleba saqarTvelo-

Sic gamoiyenon? warmoidgineT,

madneulis sawarmos iq qlorze

gacilebiT toqsikuri nivTiere-

ba, kaliumis cianidi tonobiT

Seaqvs, romelsac oqros misaRe-

bad iyeneben. am nivTierebis Zal-

ze mcire dozac ki myisierad iw-

vevs centraluri nervuli sis-

temis paralizebas. iq mTebad

aris dagrovili oqros Semcveli

nedleuli, romelsac kaliumis

cianidis xsnariT rwyaven. qvemoT

specialuri mowyobilobaa, ro-

melsac qanidan oqro gamoaqvs.

Ria cisqveS dayril am e.w. mTeb-

Si axlac aris tonobiT dagro-

vili kaliumis cianidi, romel-

sac wvima daedineba da mdinareSi

recxavs. SevardnaZis mmarTvelo-

bisas frangebi iyvnen Camosuli,

romlebic xelisuflebas sTava-

zobdnen, mogveciT es obieqti da

mas sruliad usafrTxos gavxdi-

To. e.i. arsebobda gawmendis me-

Todi. ramdenime wlis win rumi-

neTSi, sadac oqros mopovebas

daaxloebiT iseTive teqnologi-

iT awarmoebdnen, rogorc saqar-

TveloSi, mTa Camoingra da Sig-

niT dagrovili kaliumis cianidi

garemoSi gadmoiRvara. mimdebare

teritoriidan mTeli soflebi

gaasaxles, xalxi rom ar daxo-

ciliyo, bunebasa da garemoze

aRaraa saubari, yvelaferi amowy-

da. es iyo tragedia, globaluri

ekokatastrofa, romelic marto

rumineTs ki ar Seexo, mdinareeb-

ma danarCen evropaSic gadaitana.

amitomacaa qveyanaSi aucilebeli

usafrTxoebis sistema, rasac

iseTi xelisufleba sWirdeba,

romelic marto sakuTar jibeze

ki ara, qveyanazec ifiqrebs.

zemoxsenebul kanonSi im

cvlilebebis Setana, romelic

fulis gadaxdis sanacvlod kom-

panias yvelafris uflebas aZ-

levs, specialurad am rusuli

kompaniisTvis gakeTda, radgan,

Cveni informaciiT, amasTan dakav-

SirebiT TebervalSi daiwyo ru-

sebTan molaparakeba. rogorc

Cans, rusebma yvela im codvis

patieba moiTxoves, rac bolnisis

raionSi aqvT Cadenili. amitom

parlamentma daCqarebuli wesiT

miiRo es cvlilebebi. Cven kate-

goriulad viTxovT am SeTanxme-

bis gauqmebas. is subieqtebi

aucileblad unda daisajon da

daisjebian kidec Cadenili dana-

SaulisTvis.

manana suxiSvili

bolo aTi wlis ganmavlobaSi onkologiur daavadebaTa ricxvi mTel saqarTveloSi

orjer, bolnisis raionSi ki oTxjer gaizarda

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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27 maiss TbilisSibevri xalxi iyo.

10 ivniss quTaisSibevri xalxi iyo.

17 ivniss ozurgeT-Si bevri xalxi iyo.

1 ivliss mcxeTaSibevri xalxi iyo.

miuxedavad imisa, rom Tbi-

lisSic bevri xalxi iyo, qu-

TaisSic, ozurgeTSic da

mcxeTaSic, paralelurad ar

Semwydara saubari imis Sesa-

xeb, rom SeiZleba saqme arCev-

nebamde verc mivides, ris sa-

fuZvelsac xelisuflebis mi-

er biZina ivaniSvilis winaaR-

mdeg Tamamad ganxorcielebu-

li represiebi da mkacri san-

qciebi iZleva, riTac saakaSvi-

li da `nacmoZraoba~ Riad da

daufaravad acxadebs: Tu gin-

daT asiaTasi SeikribeT, Tu

gindaT naxevari milioni, sul

fexebze gvkidixarT, Cven ma-

inc imas gavakeTebT, rasac

aqamde vakeTebdiT _ Tqvens

liders arc moqalaqeobas da-

vubrunebT, arc saarCevno kam-

paniis normalurad Catarebis

saSualebas mivcemT _ milio-

nebs SevawerT, qonebas davuya-

daRebT, mxardamWerebs gavu-

laxavT, davuWerT, davuSinebT

da Tu saWiro gaxdeba, arc

mis daWeras an qveynidan gaZe-

vebas moveridebiT.

ai, aseTia xelisuflebis pa-

suxi _ abuCad amgdebi, Seu-

racxmyofeli, udieri pasuxi.

* * *

ratom xdeba ase? nuTu xe-

lisuflebisTvis arafers niS-

navs uamravi moqalaqis quCaSi

gamosvla? arafers niSnavs maTi

survili, maTi moTxovna, maTi

protesti, ainunSic rom ar ag-

debs maT da viTom verc xedavs

am asiaTasebs, viTom verc amC-

nevs?

Cemi azriT, mizezi amisa is

gaxlavT, rom es aqciebi, ase

vTqvaT, dramaturgiulad aras-

worad aris dagegmili.

Tu aqciebs warmovidgenT,

rogorc Ria cisqveS dadgmul

did, grandiozuli masStabis

speqtakls da mis msvlelobas

Tvals gavadevnebT, aRmoCndeba,

rom am speqtaklSi xalxs mxo-

lod statistis, mxolod mayu-

reblis roli aqvs, romelic

taSs ukravs scenaze gamomsv-

lel politikur aqtiorebs,

usmens maT gamosvlebs da `speq-

taklis~ damTavrebis Semdeg

saxlSi midis.

arada, mitingi marTlac Te-

atraluri speqtakli xom ar

aris, is, pirvel yovlisa, po-

litikuri Sinaarsis aqciaa, sa-

dac mTavari gmiri, mTavari per-

sonaJi xalxia.

samcuxarod, arc TbilisSi,

arc quTaisSi, arc ozurgeTSi,

arc mcxeTaSi tribuna aravis

dauTmia am aqciebis monawile

moqalaqeebisTvis, aravis mous-

menia maTi mosazrebebi.

politikuri xasiaTis mi-

tingi ar aris erTi `msaxiobis~

Teatri, ar aris piesa mxolod

erTi aqtiorisTvis, politiku-

ri mitingi koleqtiuri, sayo-

velTao saxalxo `warmodgenaa~,

romlis yvela monawile am war-

modgenis mTavar moqmed gmirad

unda grZnobdes Tavs.

ase iqmneba erT Zalad Sek-

ruli koleqtiuri energia, ro-

melsac verc erTi xelisufle-

ba ver daudgeba win, Tu es

energia swor kalapotSi iqneba

miSvebuli.

rogorc vTqviT, mTavari po-

litikuri subieqti, mTavari

politikuri personaJi aris

xalxi, romelsac ar SeiZleba

mxolod munji `masovkis~ ro-

li arguno.

xelisufleba imitomac ar

reagirebs am mravalaTasian mi-

tingebze, rom am mitingis mona-

wileni arc arafers iTxoven

xelisuflebisgan _ ar iTxoven

Tundac biZina ivaniSvilisTvis

moqalaqeobis dabrunebas, ar

iTxoven ivaniSvilis politiku-

ri devnis Sewyvetas, ar iTxo-

ven am Sizoiduri xasiaTis ja-

rimebis da dayadaRebebis gauq-

mebas, ar iTxoven dapatimrebu-

li adamianebis gaTavisuflebas,

ar iTxoven uRirsi mosamarT-

leebis dasjas, ar iTxoven mo-

gelaZis kantoris danaSauleb-

rivi qmedebebis aRkveTas da

roca isini arafers ar iTxo-

ven, xelisuflebam raze unda

moaxdinos reagireba da ra-

ze unda gasces pasuxi?

xelisufleba dR-es biZina ivaniSvilsebrZvis, rogorc ke-rZo pirs, rogorckerZo samarTlispirs da iqmneba STa-beWdileba, rom esambavi saerTod, arexeba im asiaTaso-biT moqalaqes, rom-lebic koalicia `qa-rTuli ocnebis~ mx-ardamWer mitingeb-ze dganan.

arada, rogor ar exebaT?

sinamdvileSi xom xelisuf-

leba mxolod ivaniSvils ki

ara, qarTuli xalxis im na-

wils ebrZvis, romelic ar

egueba am xelisuflebis mier

damkvidrebul Zaladobas, usa-

marTlobas, avtoritarizms, ge-

nocidTan miaxloebul qmedebebs,

elitarul korufcias, romelic

aris safuZvelT safuZveli uam-

ravi adamianis gaRaribeba-gaRata-

kebisa, im upasuxismgeblo nabi-

jebs, romlebic gaxda mizezi

2008 wlis agvistos omis dawye-

bisa da romlis Sedegadac qar-

Tuli saxelmwifos rRvevis

procesma SeiZleba katastrofu-

li xasiaTi miiRos da a.S. da a.S.

* * *

_ xelisuflebis Se-cvla mxolod arCevne-bis gziT unda moxdes!

_ xSirad `gaigonebT am

frazas, rogorc koalicia

`qarTuli ocnebis~ liderisgan,

aseve am koaliciis sxva wevre-

bisganac.

TavisTavad cxadia, es swo-

ri da yvelasTvis misaRebi

formulaa _ xelisuflebis

cvla, ra Tqma unda, arCevnebi-

sas unda moxdes, magram es

imas xom ar niSnavs, rom arCev-

nebamde xelisuflebas yvelaf-

ris ufleba unda mivceT, yve-

laferze Tavi unda davuxa-

roT?

aravin ambobs, qve-biT da joxebiT Seia-raRebulni gamovcviv-deT quCaSi, SeviWraTparlamentSi, SeviWr-aT kancelariaSi, Se-viWraT prezidentisrezidenciaSi da ase,Zaladobrivi gziT da-

vamxoT xelisufleb-ao, magram am mravala-Tasian mitingebze kon-kretuli moTxovnebisda samarTliani pre-tenziebis wamoyenebavin agvikrZala?

_ xelisuflebas surs quCa-

Si gamogvityuos da iq gagvis-

wordes. ai, amis sababi ar unda

mivceTo, _ amgvar mosazrebasac

xSirad gaigonebT koalicia

`qarTuli ocnebis~ liderebis-

gan.

ki, magram, ras niSnavs quCa-

Si gamotyueba? es grandiozu-

li mitingebi quCaSi ar imarTe-

ba?

rac Seexeba sababs,ufro didi sababi raSeiZleba iyos, vidreimis gancxadeba, rom`qarTuli ocneba~ oq-tombris arCevnebSiaucileblad daamar-cxebs `nac. moZraobas~da parlamentSi umrav-lesobiT Seva?

amaze ufro didisababi ra SeiZlebaiyos am xelisufle-bisTvis, vidre arCev-nebSi damarcxebis sa-SiSroeba, rac misTvisabsoluturi katast-rofaa?

elementaruli logikaa _

Tu xelisufleba miva im daskv-

namde, rom oqtomberSi arCevnebs

agebs, is yvelafers gaakeTebs

imisTvis, rom gzidan Camoici-

los mTavari konkurenti _ bi-

Zina ivaniSvili, lideris gareSe

darCenil koalicias ki arCevneb-

Si advilad gauswordeba.

_ Cven amisTvisac mzad

varT... Tu raRac mizezebis ga-

mo me ver miviReb monawileobas

arCevnebSi, iqneba koalicia,

romelsac Cemi saxeli erqmeva

da es sakmarisia, rom xalxma

Cven mogvces xma, _ ambobs ba-

toni biZina.

ara mgonia, es mosazreba di-

di optimizmis uflebas gvaZ-

levdes.

saqmes is aris, rom es asi-

aTasobiT adamiani personalu-

rad erT adamians, biZina ivaniS-

vils uWers mxars da mis avto-

ritets veravin da veraferi

ver Caanacvlebs.

esec ar iyos, ivaniSvilis

CamoSoreba politikuri proce-

sebidan uzarmazari fsiqologi-

uri dartyma iqneba misi mxar-

damWerebisTvis, rac advili Se-

saZlebelia nihilizmsa da uime-

dobaSi gadaizardos da mkveT-

rad Seamciros ivaniSvilis

mxardamWerTa aqtiuroba arCev-

nebis periodSi.

_ Cven unda mivideT arCev-

nebamde da yvelaferi unda ga-

vakeToT imisTvis, rom Catar-

des samarTliani obieqturi ar-

Cevnebi. Tu xelisufleba gaa-

yalbebs arCevnebs, Cven auci-

leblad davicavT Cvens xmebs _

acxadeben koaliciis warmomad-

genlebi.

gayalbebis Semdegxmebis dacva da warT-meulis ukan dabrune-ba Zalian Zneli, TiTq-mis SeuZlebeli iqneba.am xmebis dacva axlaasaWiro, ise,rogorcaxlaa saWiro biZinaivaniSvilis dacva Za-lmomreobisa da rep-resiisgan.

xelisuflebam arCevnebis ga-

yalbeba ukve daiwyo da arCevne-

bis Sedegebze zemoqmedebis yve-

la berketi mTeli simZlavriT

aamuSava, ise, rogorc aamuSava

yvela berketi biZina ivaniSvi-

lis politikuri asparezidan

gasaZeveblad, koalicia `qarTu-

li ocnebis~ aqciebze ki kvlav

da kvlav jiutad ar exebian am

yvelaze mwvave sakiTxebs.

_ yvelaze uaresi,rac biZina ivaniSvilsemuqreba am xelisuf-lebisgan, deportaci-aa... Tu es moxdeba, arcesaa didi ubedureba _Cven gavimarjvebT ar-CevnebSi da batoni bi-Zinac dabrundeba, _aseTi arxeini gancxa-debac movismine koa-liciis erT-erTi wev-risgan.

RmerTma qnas, rom gaimarjv-

oT, pativcemulo koalicione-

rebo, Tumca, vfiqrob, ivaniSvi-

lis gareSe amis gakeTeba Za-

lian gagiWirdebaT...

amasac rom Tavi davaneboT,

deportaciis garSemo saubaric

Semogdebuli mgonia _ ra de-

portacia, ris deportacia _

ver xedavT, rom es xelisuf-

leba ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg

sisxlis samarTlis saqmes ke-

ravs da ukve isedac sqeltani-

an `sabraldebo~ toms

yoveldRe axal fur-

cels umatebs?

Zneli misaxvedria

es?

Tqven ra, Rm-erTma nu qnas dabiZina ivaniSvi-ls karze rommiukakuneben, mx-olod maSin api-rebT laSqrisdaZvras?

garwmunebT,gviani iqneba,ver miuswrebTda verc uSve-liT.

_ Tu saWiro gaxde-

ba, cixeSic Cavjdebi.

cixeSi jdomis ar meSi-

nia, _ ganacxada batonma biZinam.

miuxedavad imisa, rom am

gancxadebaSi ivaniSvilis Seu-

povari da uSiSari xasiaTi kar-

gad Cans, arc es gancxadeba

momwons maincdamainc...

dauSvebelia imis fiqrad

gavlebac ki, rom SeiZleba saa-

kaSvilis cixeSi biZina ivaniS-

vili ijdes...

es rom ar moxdes, CaurTeT

xalxs mikrofoni, batonebo...

giorgigamezardaSvili

dauSvebelia imis fiqrad gavlebac ki, rom SeiZleba

saakaSvilis cixeSi biZina ivaniSvili ijdes


gvesaubreba eqsperti kavkasiis

sakiTxebSi mamuka areSiZe

_ batono mamuka, saxelisuflebo

televiziebma da opoziciam evropar-

lamentSi gamarTul debatebze urTi-

erTgamomricxavi informaciebi gaavr-

celes. sad aris simarTle?

_ simarTle rogorc yovelTvis

SuaSia. minda evroparlamentSi ga-

marTuli debatebis struqtura da

formati gagacnoT. Tumca, manamde

unda giTxraT, Tu rogor muSaobs

evroparlamenti. aq sxvadasxva qvey-

nis politikuri warmomadgenloba

erTiandeba, magram arsebobs ramdeni-

me transevropuli partia, romlebic

evroparlamentSia warmodgenili. maT

rigs ganekuTvneba, magaliTad, evro-

pis saxalxo partia _ esaa ramode-

nime, sxvadasxva tipis partiebis kon-

glomerati, sadac sxvadasxva qveynis

warmomadgenlebi arian Tavmoyrilni.

saxalxo partia adre qristian-de-

mokratiuli aliansi iyo. dRes evro-

paSi ramodenime aseTi tipis alian-

sia: erTia-saxalxo partia, meore _

social-demokratiuli partiebis er-

Tianoba da mesame _ evropis libera-

luri partia. vimeoreb, am partiebSi

sxvadasxva erovnebis, partiuli kuT-

vnilebis adamianebi, erTiandebian,

romelTac erTnairi faseulobebi

aqvT. social-demokratebi _ memar-

cxeneebi arian, danarCeni zogi libe-

rali, zogic memarjvene mimarTule-

bisaa. saxalxo partiaSi saqarTvelo-

dan `qristian-demokratebi~ da

`nac.moZraobaa~ gaerTianebuli. sxva-

Ta Soris, Zalian sainteresoa, rom

`nacionaluri moZraobis~ liderebi

mudmivad liberalur faseulobebze

akeTeben aqcents, am dros, gaerTiane-

bulni arian ara liberalur koali-

ciaSi, aramed saxalxo partiaSi, ro-

melsac ufro memarjvene pozicia

aqvs. `Tavisufali demokratebi~ da

`respublikelebi~ ki liberalur ko-

aliciaSi arian. praqtikulad im

dRes evroparlamentis sxdomaze ev-

ropis saxalxo partiis da libera-

luri gaerTianebis brZola iyo. es

iyo sufTa koniunqturuli brZola,

saqarTvelos sakiTxi ubralod foni

iyo da meti araferi. sul 12 adami-

ani gamovida _ 5 saxalxo partiis

warmomadgeneli, romelic opozicias

aginebda da xelisuflebas icavda, 4

liberali, romelic opozicias icav-

da da xelisuflebas aginebda, xolo

danarCeni 3 neitraluri iyo. magali-

Tad, roca rom pei TbilisSi imyofe-

boda sxva ram Tqva, misma moadgilem

evrokavSirSi ki _ absoluturad

sxva ram rac Seexeba imas, Tu ras

fiqroben am Sexvedraze CvenTan _

erTni amboben, rom es antisaxeli-

suflebo Sekreba iyo, meoreni ki sa-

pirispiros amtkiceben. simarTle

sadRac SuaSia.

_ magram riT aris opoziciisT-

vis es debatebi warma-

tebuli?

_ erTi imiT, rom es

debatebi Sedga, rasac

Zalian didi mniSvnelo-

ba aqvs. saqarTveloSi

yvelaferi rigze rom

iyos, debatebi ar Sedgeboda. evro-

parlamentis wevrebma ician, rom sa-

qarTveloSi arCevnebamde mimavali

gza vardebiT mofenili araa. ai, amis

gamo Sedga debatebi. es faqti mety-

velebs, rom saqarTvelos xelisuf-

leba ver uzrunvelhyofs arCevnebis

normalurad Catarebas da demokra-

tiuli fonis Seqmnas. getyviT ima-

sac, rom CemTvis absoluturad ara-

viTari mniSvneloba ar aqvs, ra ila-

paraka evroparlamentSi dapirispire-

bulma mxarem, imitom rom, es ar

aris saqarTveloze gulSematkivari

adamianebis saubari. pirvel rigSi, es

iyo urTierTdapirispirebuli parti-

ebis debatebi. aseTive warmatebiT Se-

iZleboda debatebi gaemarTaT Temaze

_ balaxi mwvanea Tuki lurji, Tu

es evropuli politikisTvis aqtua-

luri iqneboda. mTavaria, rom deba-

tebi gaimarTa, rac udavod saqarTve-

los opoziciis aqtivSia da xeli-

suflebis pasivSi, imitomac iyo es

ukanaskneli am debatebis winaaRmdegi

_ precendentis Seqmna ar undodaT.

_ Tumca, rodesac evroparlamen-

tis wevrebis debatebs vusmendi, mo-

meCvena, rom ivaniSvilis mlanZRvele-

bis teqstebi Zalian waagavda `naci-

onaluri moZraobisas~.

_ aseTi SegrZneba imitom gagiCn-

daT, rom isini Sesabamisad iyvnen da-

rigebulni. modiT, amas teqnikurad

SevxedoT: saqarTvelos xelisufle-

bas debatebis gamarTva ar undoda da

Sesabamisad amisTvis mzad ar iyo. Se-

sabamisad, lobistebis mier, maTi

mxardamWeri evropeli politikose-

bis momzadeba faci-fuciT moxda. aqe-

dan gamomdinare, rasac aq xelisuf-

lebis warmomadgeneli ambobs, iq igi-

ves landsbergisi imeorebda. sawina-

aRmdego mxaris argumentacia ufro

meti iyo imitom, rom evropel libe-

ralebs saqarTveloSi Seqmnil situ-

aciaze informacia miewodeba ara mar-

to maTi mokavSire partiebisgan

_`Tavisufali demokratebisa~ da

`respublikelebisgan~, aramed saer-

TaSoriso organizaciebisganac. am pa-

TosiT gansxvavdeboda maTi gamosvle-

bi. Tu, vTqvaT, evropeli saxalxo

partiis gamomsvlelebi, saqarTvelos

xelisuflebis wevrebis saubars ime-

orebdnen, liberalebis SemTxvevebSi

saerTaSoriso organizaciebis mier

gakeTebuli zogadi Sefasebebic

JRerdeboda. aq kidev erTi, Zalian

mniSvnelovani niuansia _ orive Sem-

TxvevaSi lobistebis muSaoba Canda.

lobisturi organizaciebi efeqtu-

rad muSaoben rogorc xelisufle-

bis, ise opoziciis warmomadgenlebi.

rogor ar Canda. opoziciis

mxardamWerebis gamosvlebi ufro

saqmiani iyo, vidre xelisuflebis.

strasburgSi 12 lobisti kompania

aqtiurobs. nawili _ 8 _ xelisuf-

lebas hyavs daqiravebuli, 4 _ opo-

zicias. amaSi gasakviri araferia. es

msoflio politikaSi miRebuli

praqtikaa, rac Tavisi arsiT SeiZle-

ba cinikuria, realur suraTs ar

warmoadgens, magram politikuri

brZolis wesia.

_ xSirad mesmis opoziciidan _

axla sul sxva mdgomareobaa da ar-

CevnebSi aucileblad gavimarjvebTo.

Tumca axlo warsulSi gvqonda Sem-

degi mocemuloba _ maTias iorSma

xelisuflebas arCevnebi `gauprava~,

mailsma _`vardebis revolucia~ mog-

viwyo, basma _ 26 maisi. ra, sxva

mdgomareobaa axla ra gvaqvs ukeTesi

_ is rom ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobas

ar aZleven, qonebas auqcionze hyidi-

an Tu ra?

_ araferi ukeTesi mdgomareoba

ar aris, maT Soris arc dasavleTe-

li, CrdiloeTeli mokavSireebis Tu

mtrebis mxridan. mdgomareoba zus-

tad iseTivea da arc arasodes Seic-

vleba. rac ufro daCaCanakebulad ga-

moCndebi maT TvalSi, miT uaresad

mogepyrobian. maSin roca, saxelmwi-

fom yvelaferi gaakeTa imisTvis, rom

xalxs da TviTonac Rirseba daekar-

ga, am fonze Zalian rTulia maRal

materiebze ilaparako. Zalian mniSv-

nelovania, rom saxelmwifos morali

hqondes, ers hqondes Rirseba. rode-

sac saxelmwifos morali da ers ki

Rirseba aqvs dakarguli, Zalian Zne-

lia pativiscemiT mogepyron. rac Se-

exeba `qarTuli ocnebis~ zogierT

warmomadgenels, romelic ambobs,

rom axla yvelaferi sxvagvarad da

ukeTesadaa, mec `qarTuli ocnebis~

warmomadgeneli var, magram ase ar

vlaparakob da arc arasdros vityvi

amas, imitom rom am kuTxiT bevri sa-

muSaoa. rasakvirvelia, mocemuloba

bevrad ukeTesia. xelT didi plusi

gvaqvs _ eris konsolidacia, rac

orma faqtorma ganapiroba _ biZina

ivaniSvilis politikaSi Semosvlam

da im katastrofulma Secdomebma,

rac `nac.moZraobam~ dauSva. erT-er-

Ti Secdomaa xalxis azris absolu-

turi ignorireba. am makonsolidire-

bel energias swori warmarTva sWir-

deba da ara _ gafantva. aqedan gamom-

dinare, sul sxva mdgomareoba ar

aris. Tu Cveni partniorebis, mtre-

bis pativiscema ar davibruneT, ara-

feri gamogviva. xSir SemTxvevaSi,

ver vxedav, rom konkretuli adamia-

nebi, vinc amboben, rom yvelaferi

kargadaa, am kuTxiT raimes akeTeben,

amaze orientirebulni ar arian.

xSir SemTxvevaSi im adamianebis miC-

qmalva, gverdze gaweva xdeba, visac

am kuTxiT amindis Seqmna SeuZliaT,

anu eris energetikis sworad war-

marTva.

_ ase Tu gagrZelda, aSkaraa xe-

lisufleba ivaniSvilis politikuri

procesebidan CamoSorebas martivad

SeZlebs. faqtebi saxezea, dawyebuli

moqalaqeobis daubrunebulobiT, dam-

Tavrebuli qonebis dayadaRebiT da

a.S. am dros ra gvaZlevs optimizmis

safuZvels? aSkaraa, xelisufleba

gadamwyveti safinalo dartymisTvis

emzadeba. Tqven rogor warmogidgeni-

aT, ra iqneba finalSi?

_ iciT raSia saqme? _ me safi-

nalo dartymas ar velodebi, aramed

safinalo dartymebis cikls. dRes

cota sxva viTarebaa Semdegi Tval-

sazrisiT _ ianvar-TebervalSi ga-

nuwyvetliv Tavis marTlebis reJimSi

viyaviT. axla, Tavis gasamarTlebeli

piriqiT xelisuflebas aqvs. biZina

ivaniSvilma Seqmna foni, rodesac xe-

lisufleba iZulebulia mudmivad

kontrRonisZiebebze ifiqros, amis

gamo, igi Secdomebs uSvebs _ qone-

bis dayadaRebebs da a.S. es, maT Za-

lian cudad moubrundebaT. Zalian

mikvirs konstituciur sasamarTlo-

Si am kanonis miRebisTanave `qarTu-

li ocnebis~ mxridan, saCivari ratom

ar Sevida. amaze pasuxi dRemde ver

miviRe. miuxedavad imisa, rom pro-

cesss ver movigebdiT, es Zalian

mniSvnelovani faqtori iqneboda,

radgan dasavleTSi yuradRebiT adev-

neben Tvals nebismieri tipis anti-

konstituciur qmedebas.

kidev erTi ram minda aRvniSno _

xelisuflebaSi roca xar biZina iva-

niSvilis buneba unda icode, raTa

aseTi pirobebi ar Seuqmna mas. ra-

tom? _ ivaniSvili krizisuli situ-

aciis marTvis menejeri. es misi

stiqiaa. rac ufro mZime viTarebaa,

Tavs ise grZnobs, rogorc Tevzi

wyalSi. ivaniSvilma Tqva, Tu undaT

gayidon banki-o. e.i. mas aqvs yovel-

Tvis 3-4-5-6 varianti im SemTxveva-

Si, rodesac krizisuli situaciaa.

amdenad xelisuflebis mTavari Sec-

doma isicaa, rom ar ician, rogor

tips eTamaSebian da rogori wesebiT.

Cemi mxridan SemiZlia aseTi pozicia

davafiqsiro _ ar aris problema, Tu

undaT ofisebic waiRon, saxlSi vi-

muSavebT, magram es aRSfoTebuli

adamianis naTqvami iqneba. ivaniSvili

seriozulad fiqrobs aseT SemTxve-

vebzec da ukve gaTvlili aqvs samo-

mavlo nabijebi, anu ivaniSvilma xe-

lisuflebas TamaSis garkveuli we-

sebi SesTavaza, xelisufleba am vel-

Si moZraobs da Secdomebs uSvebs.

aqedan gamomdinare, ivaniSvili kont-

rRonisZiebebs awarmoebs, oRond mis

mier SeTavazebuli TamaSis wesebis

mixedviT.

_ batono mamuka, es gasagebia,

magram Zalian xSirad mesmis koali-

ciis wevrebisgan, rom ivaniSvilze

teroristuli aqti mzaddeba. es Tu

asea, Sesabamis zomebs ratom ar

iRebT?

_ aseTi tipis gancxadeba SeiZ-

leba or SemTxvevaSi gakeTdes: erTi

_ roca marTla gaqvs informacia da

meore _ roca prevencias axden. un-

da giTxraT, piradad mqonda infor-

macia, rom aseTi tipis qmedeba _ iva-

niSvilis likvidacia mzaddeboda da

ar iqneboda gamoyenebuli cecxlsas-

roli iaraRi, aramed sxva tipis

iaraRi, romlis Sinaarss ver gavamJ-

Ravneb. ar vici, ra xarisxis dacva

aqvs ivaniSvils, magram vici, rom es

garemoebebi gaTvaliswinebuli aqvs.

mniSvnelovani sxva ramaa _ ivaniSvi-

lis TamaSis wesebiT moTamaSe xeli-

sufleba, Tavisi bunebidan gamomdina-

re, gamoricxuli araa ukidures zo-

mebze wavides da sisxli daRvaros.

mereTis epizodi amas mowmobs. aseTi

tipis msxverpli mosalodnelia xe-

lisuflebisgan, es Riad Cans. es ma-

Sinebs, Torem danarCeni evroparla-

mentis wevrebis mosazrebani, qonebis

dayadaReba, Tundac Tavdasxma ivaniS-

vilze, romelic uSedegod dasrul-

deba, deportaciac ki, ver Secvlis

saerTo suraTs. am sakanonmdeblo

formatSi deportacia gamoricxu-

lia. Tumca, SeiZleba asec moxdes,

rom kanoni Secvalon, asec rom mox-

des deportirebuli adamiani aTjer

ufro gmiri xdebda, vidre adgilze

darCenili. bevri deportirebuli

adamiani vici, visac ucxoeTidan mo-

uwyvia revolucia, swored imitom,

rom nacionaluri gmiris tolfasi

gamxdara. weRan giTxariT, rom iva-

niSvili krizisuli situaciebis mar-

Tvis menejeria. es gansakuTrebuli

fsiqotipia, romelic marTvis pult-

Tan mokvdeba, magram fexs ar moicv-

lis. es aris adamiani, romelic bo-

lomde ibrZvis, aseTi buneba arguna

mas gamCenma.

_ sakadro cvlilebebzec minda

gkiTxoT. bevri Tvlis, rom baCo axa-

laias daniSvna Sss ministrad biZina

ivaniSvilis faqtoriTaa ganpirobe-

buli.

_ axalaiasnairi pirovneba wamsv-

lelia ivaniSvilis daWeraze, magram

ras moitans es ver vxedav, rom am

daWeriT SeiZleba procesis likvida-

cia moxdes. Tu xelisufleba ivaniS-

vilis daWeris fonze Caatarebs ar-

Cevnebs, es arCevnebi apriori miuRe-

beli iqneba. erevanSi xalxi daxoces,

baqoSi mitingi daarbies, magram es

yvelaferi arCevnebis Semdeg moxda.

arCevnebamde amis gakeTeba xelisuf-

lebas gauWirdeba, radgan es poli-

tikuri procesis gaCerebas niSnavs.

_ dasawyisSi axseneT aseTi muSa-

obiT procenti ver gaizrdebao. ro-

gorc Cans, bolomde kmayofili ar

xarT muSaobiT. bevri Tqveni kolega

acxadebs, gamarjvebulebi varTo.

_ rac Seexeba imas, rom morCa,

gamarjvebulebi varT _ es tyuilia.

araferi gamarjvebulebi ar varT

jer, magram arc wagebulebi varT. vi-

meoreb, 50-50-is doneze varT gaCere-

buli, roca vambob, meti muSaobaa sa-

Wiro, amas gulistkivili, malapara-

kebs, ar minda, ratom movatyuo Tqve-

ni mkiTxveli, TviTon ver xedaven Tu

ra?! magram am fonze aqciebi sul

sxva datvirTvis matarebelia. anu,

ucnauri ram moxda _ regionis Sida

konsolidacia, rac saqarTvelosTvis

am formiT ucxo xilia, Torem

kuTxuroba yovelTvis iyo. regionis

Sida konsolidacias Zalian Seuwyo

xeli am aqciebma. axla regionebi er-

TmaneTs ejibrebian, procentuli

TvalsazrisiT visTan ufro meti

xalxi miva. guriaSi kiTxulobdnen _

mitingze modixar? pasuxi iyo _ ma-

gaze ukeTes adgilze sad wavalTo.

mTavaria _ es resursi ar davkargoT.

zogierT StabSi mxarTeZoze arian

wamowolilni, arada imaze unda

fiqrobdnen resursi ar daikargos,

dagrovili energiis realizacia

sworad moxdes. ase rom gamarjvebis

Sansi uzarmazaria, ubralod, proce-

sis swored warmarTvaa saWiro, raTa

Sedegi miviRoT.

Tamar SveliZe

xelisuflebam ver gaigo, rom biZina

ivaniSvili krizisuli situaciebis

marTvis menejeria _ es gansakuTrebuli

fsiqotipia, romelic marTvis pultTan

mokvdeba, magram fexs ar moicvlis...


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goga xaindrava: gatarebuli

sakadro cvlilebebi gamoiwvevs ru-

seTis faqtoris (rolis) gaZliere-

bas saqarTveloSi. radgan merabiSvi-

li rom ruseTis kacia, eWvi aRara-

vis ar unda eparebodes. mTeli

rigi warmatebebi, rac ruseTs

gaaCnia saqarTvelos teritorie-

bis miTvisebaSi, kodoris xeoba-

sa Tu cxinvalSi, uSualod vano

merabiSvilis monawileobiT xor-

cieldeboda. garda amisa, merabiS-

vils iseTi piari saqarTveloSi

ar hqonia, rogorc rusul presaSi.

es ar aris mxolod interviuebi, es

aris politikosebis wiTeli Sefe-

rilobis Sefasebebi misi reformat-

ruli niWis Sesaxeb. xolo Tu ref-

ormis popularizacias axdenda, ro-

gorc Tavad ambobs, raRa ruseTSi

axdenda, maincdamainc ruseTi ratom

iyo dainteresebuli am miRwevebis

gaSuqebiT?! jgufma, romelic rusu-

li interesebis gamtarebeli iyo sa-

qarTveloSi, pirdapir miiRo dava-

leba da es davaleba Seasrula sa-

akaSvilma.

rac Seexeba Sida dapirispirebas,

bunebrivia, axalaia ar Seasrulebs

merabiSvilis brZanebebs. axalaia im-

denad gadidkacda, es boganoebs xSi-

rad mosdiT xolme, sulac ar

Tvlis aucileblad, Tavisi gadawy-

vetilebebi SeuTanxmos merabiSvils.

merabiSvili marTavda yvelafers, ne-

bismieri ministri iyo misi xelis

biWi. axalaias SemTxvevaSi es ese ar

iqneba. axalaias pirdapiri urTiero-

ba aqvs saakaSvilTan da mas merabiS-

vili ar sWirdeba.

Zalian mniSvnelovania meore axa-

lias daniSvna Tavdacvis saminist-

roSi. ori Zalovani sturqtura,

romlis imedzea darCenili saakaSvi-

li da, me vfiqrob, rom absolutu-

rad usafuZvlod, am sakadro cvli-

lebiT sakuTari xelqveiTebis daq-

vemdebarebaSi moaqcia. jarSi arc

arasodes hqonia saakaSvils dasayr-

deni, miT ufro 2008 wlis agvis-

tos mere. xolo Sss-Si yovelTvis

iyo merabiSvilis kulti, misi xal-

xi da ara saakaSvilis kulti.

es ar aris Segnebuli gadawyve-

tileba, es aris maniakaluri gadawy-

vetileba, radgan saakaSvili didi

xania ukve absoluturad degradire-

bul mdgomareobaSia. ubralod mera-

biSvilis arseboba imeds aZlevs sa-

akaSvils, rom igi Tundac politi-

kur gvamad qceuli gaagrZelebs am

qveynis marTvas raRac formebSi.

amavdroulad, maniakaluri mdgoma-

reobidan gamomdinare, aravis aRar

endoba. yvelaze didi safrTxe

politikuri TvalsazrisiT, misTvis

swored merabiSvilia. mas esmis, rom

erTaderTi gadarCenisSansi merabiSvilisTvisaris saakaSvilis CaSveba,ufro sworad Carecxva,rasac is aucileblad ga-naxorcielebs.

saakaSvilma kargad ic-is, rom gapremiereba aris

vanos uZlevelobis miTisdangreva. merabiSvilsaranairad ar sWirdebo-da premieris posti, ise-dac premieri iyo, rasacundoda, imas akeTebda.dRes ki is iZulebulia te-leviziaSi iaros. misipirvelive gamosvla par-lamentSi iyo imis dastu-ri, rom es adamiani aris

sruli uvici, wera-kiTxvis ucodinari.

axalaia Seecdeba gaaZlie-

ros Tavisi xalxi Sss-Si. mar-

Talia, is prezidentis ndobiT

sargeblobs, magram damoukide-

bel TamaSs ver iTamaSebs. is

gadabmulia saakaSvilTan cal-

saxad da mxolod saakaSvilTan

erTad warmoudgenia Tavisi ar-

seboba saerTod; politikaSi

magas araferi esaqmeba, radgan

ar icis, ar aris politikosi.

...maisis da ivnisis aqciebma

aCvena, rom xalxs vanosi aRar

eSinia, amitom saakaSvilma

ifiqra, ufro cofian ZaRls

moviyvano. yvelam icis, rom axalaia

sisxlismsmelia, igi sakuTari xe-

liT awamebda patimrebs. es aris sa-

akaSvilis pirdapiri mesiji xalxi-

sadmi, vano xom iyo sastiki, axla

sastiki ki ara, pirdapir kaciWamia

movida da gatokeba ar gabedoTo.

merabiSvilis premierad daniSvna

imis maniSnebelia, rom mmarTvel

gundSi didi dapirispirebaa.

maT ician, rom saakaSvili

politikuri gvamia, magram

nacmoZraobas sadaveebis xe-

lidan gaSveba namdvilad ar

unda.

kaxi kalaZe: minda mad-loba gadavuxado saqarTve-

los mosaxleobas, romelmac

miuxedavad amdeni daSinebi-

sa, mainc moaxerxa „qarTuli

ocnebis“ aqciebze mosvla.

gamgeblebi, rwmunebulebi

dadian soflebSi da aSineben

xalxs, zogs daxmarebis mox-

sniT, zogs samsaxuridan

gaSvebiT. aseTi xalxis 99%

ambobs, rom SeiZleba axla

ver gamovideT aqciaze,

magram oqtomberSi Cvens azrs dava-

fiqsirebT.

sainformacio Seteva Cemze, mgo-

ni Cacxra, ar vici, awi ras damabra-

leben. me arasodes mqonia saqme qur-

dul samyarosTan. amis damadasture-

beli aranairi faqti ar arsebobs,

Cemi diskreditaciis mcdeloba

gamowveuli iyo Cemi bolo gancxa-

debebiT, politikaSi mosvlis sur-

viliT da biZina ivaniSvilis gundSi

yofniT. ar miyvars sakuTar Tavze

laparaki, magram ukan moxedvis nam-

dvilad ar mrcxvenia, CemTvis mora-

li, adamianoba, kacoba, yvelaferze

maRla dgas.

miSa namdvilad ar minaxavs mi-

lanSi, batonma biZinam ubralod

ixumra. arc is fotoebi gadamiRia.

es adamiani fsiqologiurad gauwo-

nasworebelia. man Camoayaliba poli-

ciuri saxelmwifo. ufro sworad

zonder-policia. Torem Tavad po-

licia saxelmwifosTvis marTlac

mniSvnelovania. ar minda Seuracx-

yofa mivayeno maT, vinc policiis

mundirs atarebs, magram arian zon-

der-policielebi, romlebic ukano-

no davalebebs asruleben.

ar vici, ra davarqva me-rabiSvilis premier-mi-nistrad daniSvnas - dawi-naureba Tu daqveiTeba.axalaias daniSvniT ki mi-viRebT zonder-policias.Tumca es cvlilebebi dagadaadgilebebi namdvi-lad ver SeaCerebs imas,rac dawyebulia. mindavuTxra saqarTvelos mo-saxleobas, rom Cven auci-leblad vizeimebT da er-Tad avixdenT „qarTulocnebas“.

politikaSi mosvlamdec, roca

me Cemi pozicia davafiqsire Tundac

demesTan dakavSirebiT, Cemi nacnobe-

bi nacmoZraobidan uceb gaifantnen.

kargad mesmis maTi. Cveulebriv mo-

saxleobasac eSinia opozicionereb-

Tan Sexvedra, eSiniaT, ar dainaxos

ubnis rwmunebelma Tu gamgebelma.

giorgi rom daiWires, me damikav-

Sirda erT-erT maRalCinosani da

miTxra, advokatebma kargad ician,

ra unda gakeTdes, rom giorgi gareT

iyoso. es imas niSnavda, rom am ada-

mians unda eRiarebina danaSauli da

Semdgariyo saproceso garigeba.

magram deme sastik uarze iyo. vici,

ramdenad Znelia iq yofna, magram

ufro Znelia aRiaro is, rac ar Ca-

gidenia.

ra Tqma unda, me misaubria Cvens

TanagundelebTan, biWebi darwmunebu-

li arian giorgis udanaSaulobaSi,

magram valdebuls veravis gavxdi,

xmamaRla daafiqsiros Tavisi azri.

dRes qveyanaSi yvelaferi politi-

zirebulia. rodesac nakrebs vtoveb-

di, is werili, romelic federaci-

am gamoaqveyna, rogor fiqrobT, fe-

deraciis prezidentis dawerilia?!

es iyo zemodan motanili werili da

federacias daavales, xeli moewe-

raT.

Semdegi aqcia iqneba gorSi. kar-

gad vici, ra ganwyobaa soflebSi,

raionebSi. Tavad rom ar vxedavde

ra gaWirvebaSi cxovrobs xalxi, Se-

iZleba sxvisi naambobi arc dameje-

rebina. soflebSi faqtiurad axal-

gazrda aRaraa darCenili da es bu-

nebriviacaa. radgan iq aranairi per-

speqtiva araa muSaobisTvis. dRiTi

dRe izrdeba emigrantTa ricxvi.

ojaxebi ingreva. oTxi weli rom qa-

li ojaxidan iqneba wasuli, is oja-

xi dangreulia, aba ra aris?!

moamzada xaTuna Toduam

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wevri aleqsi petriaSvili

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dad eswrebodiT. rogoria Tqveni

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tebi saqarTvelos da ara `qarTu-

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gamarjveba iyo. saqarTvelo seri-

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eStonis saxeliT gakeTebuli gan-

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sferoSic Tavisi politikuri Za-

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magram es realurad ar muSaobs.

evroparlamentSi pirdapir gaJ-

Rerda, rom dRes aravis aqvs uf-

leba konkretuli politikuri Za-

lis finansur SesaZleblobebs, mis

saqmianobas administraciuli re-

sursiT da politikuri devniT xe-

li SeuSalos. am mowodebebiT ga-

movidnen `mwvaneebi~, `social-de-

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pis saxalxo partiis iniciativiT

evrokavSiris warmomadgenelTa vi-

zitia dagegmili.

_ debatebisas, TiTqmis yvela

gamomsvlelma, ivaniSvilis rusul

fulze gaakeTa aqcenti.

_ samwuxarod, evroparlamen-

tarebi informacias calmxrivad

iReben. arada, roca saubari ru-

seTzea, yvelam viciT, rom saakaS-

vilma ekonomikis didi nawili

swored maT misca. `raoesi~ SeiZ-

leba imave rangSi aviyvanoT, ro-

gorc `gazpromi~. igi imave rangis

kremlis mier kontrolirebadi

kompaniaa. aseve, `bilaini~, `vi-Ti-

bi~ banki. `Tbilisis wyali~ Tavi-

dan bolomde rusuli kompaniis

kuTvnilebaa da igi gansazRvravs

Cvens gadasaxadebsac, sakuTar

mogebasac da Sesabamisad, xe-

lisuflebis warmomadgenle-

bis mogebasac. ruseTis mimar-

TulebiT Zalian aqtiurad

muSaobs yofili Tavdacvis

ministri daviT kezeraSvili,

romelic moskovis xSiri

stumaria. mas albaT, ukve ga-

dauara im gancdebma, gulis-

wyromam 2008 wlis omis period-

Si da Semdgom rom hqonda. evro-

parlamentarebs, vinc amiT apeli-

rebdnen, vuTxariT ra ganacxada

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tikulad, ruseTSi biznesi aRar

gaaCnia. arian adamianebi, visac

`nac.moZraobis~ xelisuflebis

warmomadgenlebTan raRac valde-

bulebebi aqvT da rogorc Cans,

maT bolomde uerTguleben. mag-

ram mTavari, es araa. mTavaria qar-

Tveli xalxis neba. veraviTari ga-

redan moxdenili zewola, gancxa-

deba Tu gzavnili da saerTod ve-

raferi Secvlis qarTveli xalxis

nebas. win veravin aRudgeba da ve-

ravin moaxerxebs qarTveli xal-

xis neba saTavisod moixmaros.

mniSvnelovania isic, rom evropar-

lamentSi, kuluarul saubrebSi,

saqarTveloSi bolos ganxorcie-

lebulma sakadro cvlilebebma di-

di interesi gamoiwvia. aravisTvis

ucxo, siaxle ar aris ras warmo-

adgens axalaiebis klani, ubra-

lod, maT ainteresebdaT, ras niS-

navda es gadaadgileba _ erTi kon-

kretuli Zalis gaZlierebas Tu

Sida politikur TamaSebs. Tundac

Cvens mimarT skeptikurad ganwyo-

bil evroparlamentarebSic ki imis

xseneba, rom erTi Zma Sss-s minis-

tria, meore _ Tavdacvis minist-

ris moadgile da mama _ samegre-

lo-zemo svaneTis samxareo proku-

rori, es maT saxeze Tavdapirve-

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biT, Zalian didi SeSfoTeba gamo-

xata evrokomisarma _ fulem. man

aseve, principulad, xazgasmiT aR-

niSna, rom politikuri zewolebi,

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Tis incidentis msgavsi movlenebi,

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foTebulni arian da am faqtebs

sagangaSod miiCneven.

_ mTavari albaT, mainc is iyo,

rom evroparlamentarebi ise saub-

robdnen, rogorc `nac. moZraoba~.

ori wyaro axseneT, vinc maT in-

formacia miawoda, magram Tqven iq

imyofebodiT da ra informacia mi-

awodeT Tavad maT?

_ Cven mudmivad vagzavniT in-

formaciebs. isini saqmis kursSi

CavayeneT im ukanono, danaSauleb-

riv qmedebasTan dakavSirebiT, ra-

sac xelisufleba ukanasknel pe-

riodSi gansakuTrebiT aqtiurad

axorcielebs _ Zaladobas aqti-

vistebis da kerZo seqtoris mi-

marT. amas viTom kanonis saxeliT

akeTebs. evropuli qveynis ver-

cerT kanonSi amis msgavss vera-

fers naxavT. aviRoT meore faqti

_ saRamos legaluri dokumente-

bis 700 gverdi mogvitanes da me-

ore diliT, 10 saaTze sasamarT-

loSi dagvibares. saqme arc meti,

arc naklebi, 150 milions exeba.

evroparlamentarebma gviTxres _

bunebrivia, mosamarTle sul mcire

erTTvian pauzas iRebs am SemTxve-

vaSio. rom gaiges 11 saaTze ga-

dawyvetileba ukve gamotanili

iyo, gaogdnen. es absurdia _ ase

Seafasa es qmedeba evroparlamen-

tis erT-erTma wevrma, romelic

sxvaTaSoris `nac. moZraobis~

mxardamWeri banakidanaa. aseve Cve-

ni prioritetebis ganmsazRvreli

dokumenti mivawodeT. maT kargad

ician, rom ivaniSvilis mier gaJ-

Rerebuli iniciativebi haerSi nas-

roli sityvebi araa. iq vixileT

bevri dezinformacia. sakuTari

TvaliT vixileT gamonaTqvamebis

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droindeli broSurebi iyo momza-

debuli. mova dro da vitautas

landsbergiss Zalian Sercxveba

Tavisi sityvebis TiTqos `qarTu-

li ocnebis~ rigebSi nacisturi,

faSisturi ganwyobis politikose-

bi arian da biZina ivaniSvili amg-

vari koaliciis lideria. mas rac

daubeWdes da miawodes, is wai-

kiTxa. rac man Tqva, es rom simar-

Tle iyos, garwmunebT axla Tqven-

Tan namdvilad veRar visaubrebdi,

ufro, albaT, haagis tribunalis

CarCoebSi mogviwevda amis ganxil-

va.

_ ra reagireba mohyva evrokav-

SirSi Tqvens mier miwodebul in-

formaciebs, razec axla isaubreT.

samwuxarod, mosaxleobam mxolod

cali mxare _ deputatebis mxri-

dan ivaniSvilis lanZRva moismina

da is rom TiTqos mosawvevebs

arigebdiT, riTac xalxis televi-

zorebiT da sxva teqnikiT mosyid-

va xdeboda. riT gaaqarwyleT es

mosazrebani?

_ Cven, maTTan erTad sityva-

sityviT ganvixileT, Tu ra weria

`qarTuli ocnebis~ mosawvevze. xe-

lisuflebis mxardamWeri erT-er-

Ti evroparlamentari gvekiTxebo-

da _ rogor, am mosawvevze ar we-

ria, rom 1000 laris farglebSi

mosaxleobas ocnebas usrulebTo.

es ukve CvenTvisac Rimilis momgv-

reli iyo. sainteresoa, rom pres-

centrSi, evroparlamentarebis mi-

saReb oTaxebSi Cveni mosawvevebi

aqtiurad vrceldeboda.

_ es Tu auxseniT, mainc ratom

gakeTda mosyidvaze miniSnebebi,

xom gaiges, rom mosawvevze msgav-

si araferi ewera?

_ ra Tqma unda, avuxseniT, mag-

ram mosawvevi qarTul enazea, Cven

mas frangul da inglisur enaze

ar vbeWdavT. pirdapir unda iTq-

vas, rom evroparlamentSi yvela

politikuri Zalis mxridan Zali-

an swori, jansaRi Sefaseba gakeT-

da. maT ar uTqvamT, rom ra kargia

ivaniSvili rom modis `qarTul

ocnebasTan~ erTado, magram iTqva,

rom gamoCnda adamiani, romlis

garSemo dRes arsebuli xelisuf-

lebis sapiwoned yvelaze Zlieri

politikuri alternativa gaerTi-

anda. aseve aRiniSna, xelisufleba

barierebs uqmnis piradad biZina

ivaniSvils, raTa man ver awarmo-

os Tavisi politikuri saqmianoba,

rac aqtivistebis devnaSi, dapa-

timrebaSi, provocirebebSi, Te-

fSebis dayadaRebaSi da a.S. gamoi-

xateba. Cven vxvdebodiT evrokavSi-

ris umaRlesi komisiis warmomad-

genlebs da am adamianebis zedmi-

wevniTma codnam saqarTveloSi ar-

sebuli viTarebis Sesaxeb sasia-

movnod gamaoca. iq iyvnen konkre-

tuli adamianebi, vinc saqarTve-

loze pasuxismgebelni arian da ma-

Sinve reagireben aq momxdar faq-

tebze. informirebuloba Zalian

maRali donisaa. samwuxaroa, rom

es ar gamoCnda saxelisuflebo

televiziebis wyalobiT, magram aq

CavatareT konferenciebi da konk-

retuli adamianebi tyuilis tira-

JirebaSi vamxileT.

_ cnobilia, rom im periodSi,

roca saerTaSoriso organizaciebi

Cvens arCevnebs akvirdebodnen, ga-

yalbebis faqtebi gacilebiT meti

iyo, vidre sxva SemTxvevebSi. Ta-

nac im fonze, roca xelisufleba

ukan araferze ixevs dawyebuli

ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobis armini-

WebiT, qonebis dayadaRebiT, jari-

mebiT damTavrebuli, ra gaZlevT

aseTi optimizmis safuZvels, Tun-

dac im kuTxiT, rom arCevnebamde

mivaRwevT?

_ Zalian kargi SekiTxvaa. xe-

lisufleba, rogorc Cans, yvela-

fers akeTebs imisaTvis, raTa ar-

Cevnebamde maqsimalurad dagvasus-

tos. rac ar gvklavs, is gvaZlie-

rebs. darwmunebuli var, xelisuf-

lebis yvela mcdeloba warumate-

beli iqneba da kraxiT dasrulde-

ba, magram Tqven Zalian legitimu-

ri SekiTxva dasviT. koaliciis sa-

xeliT SemiZlia giTxraT _ swo-

red Cveni svla arCevnebis dRisken

ganapirobebs xelisuflebis pani-

kur, isteriul qmedebebs. arCevne-

bis dRes, rodesac yvelaze mTava-

ri arbitris _ qarTveli xalxis

winaSe davdgebiT, darwmunebuli

var eri swor arCevans gaakeTebs.

xelisuflebam icis, rom dRes sa-

qarTvelos mosaxleobaSi arCeva-

nis gakeTebis arnaxuli mzaobaa.

amitom, bunebrivia, xelisufleba

cdilobs `qarTuli ocneba~ sxva

saTamaSo moedanze gadaiyvanos.

Tqveni gazeTis meSveobiT minda _

Sevatyobino mas _ yvela maTi

mcdeloba warumatebeli iqneba,

arCevnebis gzidan veravin gadagvax-

vevinebs da yvelafers logikur

dasasrulamde miviyvanT.

_ batono aleqsi, mainc minda

gkiTxoT, evroparlamentSi vizi-

tisas ra STabeWdileba dagrCaT,

evrokavSiri uWers mxars qarTvel

xalxs?

_ saqarTvelos saxelisufle-

bo televiziebis mier Seqmnilma

propagandam iseTi suraTi daxata,

TiTqos evroparlamentarebi mwk-

rivSi idgnen da evroparlamenti

im dRes mets arafers akeTebda

garda imisa, rom petriaSvils, xi-

daSels, usufaSvils gadauares da

talaxSi agoravebdnen. realoba

aseTi ar yofila. nebismier Jurna-

lists SeuZlia sruli Canaweri

amoiRos da naxos. realoba aseTia

_ evrokavSiri SeSfoTebulia

dRes arsebuli mdgomareobiT, xe-

lisuflebas administraciuli

resursis gamoyenebisa da politi-

kur saqmianobaSi Carevisgan Tavis

aridebas mouwodebs. ZalTa balan-

si aseTi iyo, 12 gamomsvlelidan

_ 5 gamovida ivaniSvilis winaaRm-

deg, danarCenebi saqarTvelos sa-

sargeblod saqmianad saubrobdnen.

es debatebi evroparlamentSi zus-

tad imitom gaimarTa, rom saqarT-

veloSi movlenebi aranormalurad

viTardeba, temperatura aranorma-

lurad izrdeba.

_ xelisuflebas ar undoda am

debatebis gamarTva, Tumca Sedegi

mosaxleobas ise miawodes, ro-

gorc Tavad surdaT. rogor fiq-

robT, amis mere kidev ufro xom

ar `aiwyvets~ xelisufleba?

_ axla scenaze axalaiebis

performansis droa. amaze meti

`awyveta~ warmoudgenelia. amas,

erTaderTi SeiZleba daematos po-

litikuri liderebis, aqtiviste-

bis masiuri daWerebi, dapatimre-

bebi. angariSebi ukve daayadaRes.

albaT, Seecdebian cocxali adami-

anebic `daayadaRon~, Tumca qarT-

velma xalxma xelisuflebas aCve-

na, rac ar unda Zaladoba ixma-

ros, yadaRa daados koaliciaSi

Semaval partiebs, am process ve-

Raraferi SeaCerebs, es Seuqceva-

di procesia. soflebSi saubari

midis ara qveynis prioritetebze,

aramed gadarCenaze, SimSilis da

wyurvilis mokvlaze. xelisufle-

ba spekuliantobs, roca iZaxis,

rom maTTvis 1000 larian vauCers

daarigebs. amixsnas vinmem aris Tu

ara es amomrCevlis mosyidva?!

adamianebi arCevans TviTon gaake-

Teben.

Tamar SveliZe

vTvli, rom evroparlamentSigamarTuli debatebi

saqarTvelos gamarjveba iyo


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roparlamentis Sefasebebis mos-

menis Semdeg da Tu marTla ase

moxda, pasuxismgebloba evropar-

lamentsac daekisreba amaSi.

_ batono Salva, aSS-iis elC-

ma e.w. mwvane Suqi rom aunTo xe-

lisuflebas xalxis dasarbevad,

amaze pasuxismgebloba masac ar

auRia, is ki ara, amas wi-

naT saarCevno garemoc ki

moiwona saqarTveloSi.

_ ibadeba logikuri

kiTxva: ras verCiT ameri-

kis elCs, maSin, roca arc

erT arasamTavrobo orga-

nizacias saqarTveloSi

gangaSi ar autexavs imaze,

rom saarCevno garemo sa-

qarTveloSi uvargisia.

magram, radgan midixar

arCevnebze, niSnavs, rom

Tanxmdebi xelisuflebas

im TamaSSi, rasac gTava-

zobs. aSS-mac ganacxada, rom Tu-

ki mniSvnelovani pretenziebi ar

gaqvT, arCevnebi, wesiT, normalu-

rad unda Catardeso. amerikis

elCma rac Tqva, es iyo diploma-

tiuri gancxadeba. sinamdvileSi

ki igulisxma: ar gindaT saakaS-

vili? magram Tqven masze uarese-

bi xarT, radgan mihyvebiT im Ta-

maSSi, rasac TviTon gTavazobT.

dRes mTavaria didi saxalxo er-

Tobis Camoyalibeba.

Cven am winadadebiT erTxel

SevxvdiT biZina ivaniSvils da

mas Semdeg Sexvedra veRar mova-

xerxeT. rogorc Cans, garkveuli

Zalebi xels uSlian Cvens daax-

loebas.

_èrovnulebi~ arCevnebSi mo-

nawileobas apirebT?

_ es jer ar gadagviwyvetia,

magram uaxloes erT-or kviraSi

amas gadavwyvetT. Tu ver moxer-

xda biZina ivaniSvilTan

Sexvedra da kvlavac

dagvblokes, Cven TviTon

daviwyebT regionebSi

ofisebis gaxsnas da da-

vasaxelebT Cvens maJo-

ritar deputatebs.

magram, faqtobrivad,

gamarjveba SeuZlebeli

iqneba, Tu eri ar gahyva

erT formulas: iyavi

koaliciaSi visTanac

ginda, magram SevqmnaT

saxalxo erToba.

politikosebi avc-

diT xalxis moTxovnebs.

xalxi ar gvTxovs dai-

yaviTo.

_ amas gulisxmobda `saxal-

xo krebac~.

_ ho, magram, maSin Tu ver

moaxerxe da rom ver moaxerxe,

anu uvargisebi rom viyaviT, yo-

velTvis ase xom ar unda gagr-

Zeldes?! yvela erTad unda dav-

dgeT, Torem davmarcxdebiT, sas-

tikad davmarcxdebiT am arCevneb-

Si. xalxma unda aiRos iniciati-

va, Torem eseni ganaxorcieleben

gegmas, romelic ruseTis agentu-

ram dadga saqarTvelosTvis.

rogorc batonma biZinam brZa-

na, erT muStad unda Seikras sa-

qarTvelo.

_ Tqven ganacxadeT, rom ari-

an Zalebi, romlebic xels uSli-

an Tqvens dakavSirebas `qarTuli

ocnebis~ koaliciasTan. vin arian

es Zalebi, gaumxileT sazogado-

ebas. politikosebi mudam gvpir-

debiT, rom raRacas ityviT. ga-

dis dro da arafers ambobT.

_ jer ver vityvi, radgan ax-

la mimdinareobs Cvens xelT ar-

sebuli informaciis gadamowme-

bis procesi. Cven jer vamowmebT,

roca yvelaferi gairkveva, iciT,

Cemi xasiaTi, aravis moveridebi,

gamoval da vityvi vin vin aris.

_ maSin is miTxariT, koali-

ciasTan miaxloe-

bas ratom SeiZle-

ba giSlidnen, ra

mizezi SeiZleba iyos?

_ pirvel rigSi, es SeiZleba

moxdes im mizniT, rom nel-nela

biZina ivaniSvils amzadeben dasa-

marcxeblad. anu Cveni damarcxeba

ki ar ainteresebT, biZina ivaniS-

vilis winaaRmdeg moqmedeben. imi-

tom, rom CvenTan kavSiri niSnavs

samegrelos mogebas. samegrelos

mogeba ki arCevnebis mogebas.

_ Tqven laparakobdiT, axa-

laias xelSia samegreloo da

axalaiebze meti Zala Tqven

gaqvT?

_ Cven ki ar gvaqvs Zala, zvi-

ad gamsaxurdias saxels aqvs Za-

la da masze metad im ideas aqvs

Zala, rasac gamsaxurdia qadageb-

da. dResac amiT cocxlobs sameg-

relo. amitom, am ideasTan Camo-

cileba niSnavs biZina ivaniSvi-

lis gawirvas dasamarcxeblad.

_ sxvaTa Soris, zogierTi

zviadisti ambobs: Zalian kargi,

Tu ivaniSvili damarcxdeba, ma-

inc rusuli, agresiuli Zalaao.

_ jer erTi, es aris absur-

di da meorec, tyuilad cdilobs

ruseTi axal politikur Zalebs

sakuTari iarliyi miakeros, ame-

rika arafris didebiT ar daT-

mobs saqarTvelos. es ar moxde-

ba. zogma SeiZleba ar daijeros,

magram axla vityvi pirvelad:

gaxsovT partia `samarTliano-

bis~ wevrebi rom daiWires? ax-

lac cixeSia im xalxis nawili.

dasapatimrebelTa sia, sxvaTa

Soris, ruseTidan Camovida. isini

ruseTis agentobis braldebiT

daiWires. me maTi advokati viya-

vi da vici, es ambebi. viRaca ity-

vis, es ambavi moZvelda, mas Sem-

deg daWerebs daWerebi mohyvao,

magram dRes rac xdeba `guSinde-

lis~ gagrZelebaa.

_ anu oqtombramde daWerebi

iqneba?

_ oqtombramde Tu migviyva-

nes, kargi iqneba. Tu saakaSvilma

Seatyo, rom arCevnebis saqme mis

sasargeblod ar midis, arCevnebs

aRar daucdis, seqtemberSi, sava-

raudod, represiebs daiwyebs.

policieli merabiSvili _

premier-ministrad, policieli

axalaia Sss-Si, policieli SaS-

kini, policieli dekanoiZe, po-

licia marTavs am qveyanas. mera-

biSvilis daniSvniT, faqtobri-

vad, qveyanaSi ukve meramdened

moxda saxelmwifo gadatrialeba

da saTaveSi movidnen policiele-

bi.

icodeT, xelisufleba emza-

deba sisxlisRvrisTvis da masob-

rivi represiebisTvis.

_ merabiSvilis gadayvana pre-

mier-mministrad ras SeiZleba da-

vukavSiroT, imas, rom aRar hqon-

da saakaSvils merabiSvilis ime-

di?

_ aq sul sxva ambavia. saa-

kaSvili imdenadaa gaSavebuli,

axla surT wina planze wamoswi-

on piri, visi moRvaweobac ase

Tu ise, warmatebuli iyo. es,

cxadia, mTlad ase araa, magram

mas Semdeg, rac biZina ivaniSvil-

ma ganacxada, rom merabiSvili

kargi menejeria, misma reitingma

aiwia. faqti isaa, rom aSS-i ami-

eridan, aRar dauSvebs imas, rom

saakaSvili kvlav movides xeli-

suflebaSi. mizezi martivia, ma-

kiavelis principiT: daviSaloT

imisTvis, rom xelaxla gaverTi-

andeT! axla nacionaluri moZra-

obis nawils CamoiSoreben, gacx-

rilaven Semadgenlobas, SeiZleba

saxelic ki Seicvalon. 2013

wlamde aq ambebi datrialdeba,

jer Jurnalia, kinos mere vixi-

lavT. vinc undoda da visac en-

doba, daiaxlova saakaSvilma, da-

narCeni misTvis aravin arafers

ar warmoadgens. magram, SeiZleba,

swored vano merabiSvilma gamou-

tanos magas ganaCeni.

_ Tqven rogor fiqrobT, is

Canaweri, rac gvaCvenes _ miSas

da vanos familaruli dialogi,

SesaZlebelia realobas Seesaba-

mebodes da dadgmuli scena

iyos?

_ verafers getyviT amis Se-

saxeb, magram,

SeiZleba, xelisuf-lebam daiwyos gegmisSemogdeba, TiTqos, mi-Sa, vano an koduebi dasxvebi erTmaneTs upi-rispirdebian, rom amiTopozicia miityuon mo-salaparakeblad. movu-wodeb opozicias: argadadgas arc erTi na-biji amaTken.

es iqneba didi uzneoba, rad-

gan nacmoZraobas elodeba niurn-

bergis procesis magvari rame,

albaT, quTaisSi da nu miiReben

monawileobas am ambebSi.

irandakalandaZe

biZina ivaniSvilTan Cvens Sexvedras isZalebi blokaven, romlebic ivaniSvilsnel-nela amzadeben

dasamarcxebladSeiZleba, xelisuflebam daiwyos gegmis Semogde-

ba, TiTqos, miSa, vano an koduebi da sxvebi erTmaneTs

upirispirdebian, rom amiT opozicia miityuon mosa-

laparakeblad. movuwodeb opozicias: ar gadadgas

arc erTi nabiji amaTken.


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merab SaTiriSvili::

_ batono merab, xelisuf-

lebam sazogadoebas sakadro

cvlileba SesTavaza. ras fiq-

robT merabiSvilis dawinaure-

baze, razea es gaTvlili?

_ merabiSvili, rogorc Sss

ministri, dRemde saxelmwifo

moxelis statuss inarCunebda.

igi monawileobas iRebda `nac.

moZraobis~ binZur gadawyveti-

lebebSi, magram es aSkarad ar

Canda. igi ar aRiqmeboda, ro-

gorc politikuri figura, sa-

xelmwifo moxele iyo. saxelm-

wifo moxeles, romelic saku-

Tar saqmes emsaxureba, ukan da-

saxevi gza yovelTvis aqvs. maga-

liTad, adeiSvili sazogadoe-

bisTvis, rogorc saxelmwifo

moxele, ise aRiqmeba, mas ukan

dasaxevi gza aqvs. Ase, rom miu-

xedavad imisa, merabiSvilis mi-

samarTiT rigi braldebebi gais-

moda, mas ukandasaxevi gza Sss

ministrobis periodSi mainc

hqonda. axla, misi win wamoweva

mxolod da mxolod imas moas-

wavebs, rom merabiSvils yvela

ukan dasaxevi gza gadauWres.

igi aris im sibinZuris mamamTa-

vari, rasac politikuri orga-

nizacia `nac. moZraobis~ saxiT

sCadioda. kidev vis aqvs ukanda-

saxevi gza moWrili?! _ esenia

axalaiebi. erTi Zma Sss-s saTa-

veSia, meore _ samxedro uwye-

baSi SaSkinisac. yvela gza mo-

uWres. saakaSvilma am xalxs

uTxra _ Tqven ggoniaT, marto

me momekiTxeba yvelaferi, Ti-

Toeul Tqvengans Tqveni wili

pasuxismgebloba gaqvT, yvelas

ukandasaxevi gza moWrili gaqvT

da yvelaze mkacri, araordina-

luri qmedeba unda CaidinoTo.

anu, prezidentis paTosi aseTia:

_ Tu saWiroa, unda mokla, da-

iWiro, gaZarcvo.

_ anu, merabiSvili am mo-

Txovnas ver asrulebda da axa-

laia imisTvis daniSnes, rom am

yvelaferze xelismomweria?

_ ra Tqma unda, merabiSvili

sofelSi aRzrdili kacia da

hyofnida imdeni goniereba, rom

ukan dasaxev gzas yovelTvis

itovebda. saakaSvilma axalaia

Seaqo, Zalian kargi wmenda Caa-

tare is adamianebi gaya-

re, vinc orWofobdneno.

raze orWofobdnen isi-

ni? _ `nacionalebis~

skami gavaZlieroT Tu

samSoblos vemsaxuroTo.

misTvis eleqtorati mTa-

vari ar aris. man Tqva,

rom politikas vinc me-

TamaSebiT, suleli xar-

To, radgan mas hyavs ya-

CaRebis banda, romelTa

meSveobiTac sisxls daR-

vris, magram skams ar

daTmobs. daakvirdiT, ro-

gori intensivobiT axor-

cielebs xelisufleba

ivaniSvilis ukanono da-

jarimebebs, xom SeiZleba

erTxelac man es dajarimebebis

cikli Sewyvitos da sisxlis

samarTlis saqme aRZras. saqme

swored aqeTken midis. xeli-

suflebas ukve aRar aintere-

sebs eleqtorati, misi azri.

_ rogor fiqrobT, xeli-

suflebam am sakadro cvlile-

bebiT SesaZlo sisxlisRvras

moawera xeli?

_ ra Tqma unda. saakaSvilma

amiT gadaWriT Tqva, rom misi

partia wasvlas arsad ar api-

rebs. tyuilia, vinc ambobs, rom

TiTqos xelisuflebas mainc

araferi gamouva. xelisuflebas

marTlac araferi gamouva, mxo-

lod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu arCev-

nebamde miRwevas SevZlebT. ukve

250 aTasi adamiani gamovida

ivaniSvilis aqciaze. darwmune-

buli var, `qarTuli ocnebis~

mier dawyebuli saarCevno kampa-

niis periodSi milion naxevari

amomrCeveli da `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ mxardamWeri gamova. am

fonze, saarCevno yuTTan Tu

`nacionalebis~ mogeba dafiq-

sirda, es xom absurdi iqneba.

piradad me, vxedav tendencias,

rom xelisufleba Zalismieri

meTodebiT cdilobs samSoblo

wamarTvas, faqtobrivad, poli-

tikuri niSniT pedagogiuri

uflebebis ganxorcieleba amek-

rZala, Cemi mwerloba aravis

unda, imitom rom, asparezi im

mwerlebs eTmobaT, vinc maTi

momxreebi arian. Cven ki samSob-

los gvarTmeven, samaCablo wag-

varTves, enas, sarwmunoebas

gviryvnian, gvaiZuleben aq aRar

dagvedgomebodes. aTasobiT qar-

Tvels sakuTar qveyanaSi arTme-

ven samSoblos. rogor fiq-

robT, es adamianebi ar gamovlen

quCaSi?! Zalian mikvirs, ratom

xarjavs opozicia amden energi-

as aSS-Si, evropaSi gasvlebze.

ar jobs, es energia sakuTar

xalxze daixarjos?! roca xal-

xi saTanado simaRleze dadgeba

da sakuTar samSoblos daicavs,

banditebs qveynis sabolood xe-

lSi Cagdebis uflebas ar mis-

cems, maSin gveqneba Sansi, ga-

davrCeT. xelisufleba qvemo

qarTlSi uamrav azerbaijanels

moqalaqeobas aniWebs, raTa sa-

arCevno xmebi ganimtkicon. aman

SeiZleba gamoiwvios azerbaija-

nelebis mozRvaveba, romlebic

ormagi moqalaqeobis wyalobiT

xmas miscemen am xelisuflebas.

aWaraSi 40 aTasi Turqis pas-

portizacia ratom xdeba, ro-

gor ggoniaT? _ es saarCevno

xmebzea gaTvlili. xelisufle-

ba, romelic musulmanebze hyi-

dis saarCevno xmebis gamo sa-

qarTvelos, amas isev da isev

qarTveli eri unda aRudges

win. amitom meti Zalisxmevaa

saWiro. ar aris sakmarisi wina-

saarCevnod mitingebze xalxis

moyvana. unda dafiqsirdes pro-

testi. xelisuflebis mzakvru-

li gegmis winaaRmdeg gamosvle-

bi unda daiwyos. xalxma mkafio

mesiji unda gaugzavnos xeli-

suflebas. sxva SemTxvevaSi,

samSoblos vkargavT.

_ batono merab, bolos isev

sakadro cvlilebebs minda da-

vubrundeT. rogor fiqrobT, me-

rabiSvils `gadarCenis~ ra San-

sebi aqvs?

_ radganac merabiSvilma

icis, rom mas ukan dasaxevi gza

mouWres, mas es saxezec etyo-

ba, kidev erTxel vafiqsireb,

mas aqvs Sansi, ukan daixios. man

icis, raSi iRebs monawileobas,

ra jgufis torpedos rols

TamaSobs. igi gadarCeba, mas

qarTveli xalxi gaugebs, Tu am

mkvlelebis politikas gaemij-

na. Tu ase ar moiqca, igi iyo

da darCeba mTeli am ubedure-

bis Tanamonawile, rasac nacio-

naluri boroteba hqvia. igi am

gundTan erTad iwvnevs sisxli-

an `gamarjvebasac~, damarcxeba-

sac da xalxis risxvas.

Tamar SveliZe

mTeli saqarTvelos masStabiT

`kardakaris aqcia~ daiwyo òcne-

bam~ 24 ivniss, xolo àmomrCevel-

Ta ligam~ Tbilissa da zugdidSi

_ 21 ivniss.

amomrCeveli gvexmareba siebis

dazustebaSi _ surT, rom exla ma-

inc daidos samarTliani saarCevno

siebi, gvawvdian informaciebs ezo-

dan, Tu vin aris wasuli saqarTve-

lodan ucxoeTSi, vin aris miweri-

li ezoSi da vin ar aris siaSi.

marjaniSvilis q.#59-Si ezos

Tavmjdomarem aRmoaCina, rom misi

Tanxmobis gareSe, ezoSi

Cawerili iyo 5

Cineli, maT

amosawerad bev-

rjer mivida

reestrSi da

Zlivs miaRwia mi-

zans _ amowera isi-

ni.

minda vTqva, rom Tbilisis

amomrCeveli CeRureTis raionis me-

6, me-7 da 28-e ubanze sakmaod kar-

gad aris informirebuli. maT ici-

an vin aris kacitaZis komisia, vin

aris, ̀ amomrCevelTa liga~ da ̀ qar-

Tuli ocneba~. benaSvilis quCis

erT-erT nomerSi roca mivediT,

ojaxis patronebi midiodnen ekle-

siaSi, maT Tavdapirvelad vegoneT

`nacebis~ warmomadgenlebi da ar

hqondaT survili, CvenTvis moecaT

raime informacia, roca gaiges, rom

viyaviT amomrCevelTa ligidan, Seb-

rundnen binaSi, saxlSic migvipati-

Jes da yvela saWiro informacia

mogvawodes. axalcixis quCis erT-

erT nomerSi binis mepatrone axal-

gazrda mamakacma gviTxra: _Tu `na-

cebi~ xarT saxlSi ar SemogiSveb-

To. axalcixis quCis #20 dangre-

ulia da `misamarTi ar iZebneba~ _

iq Cawerili xalxi aravin ar icis

vin aris. aseve benaSvilis q.#3 b.

saerTod ar arsebobs, Sesabamisad

iq macxovrebeli ori adamiani me-

zoblebma ar ician, vin aris. Segv-

xvdnen siaSi moqalaqeebi, romel-

Tac 10-15 wlis winaT gayiduli

aqvT binebi, magram mainc

figurireben Zveli misa-

marTis siebSi. aseTia mag.

erisTavis q.#14 Caweri-

li parlamentis Tavmj-

ris moadgile Ciora Taq-

TaqiSvili da misi mama

daviT TaqTaqiSvili. isini

aRniSnuli misamarTidan

gadavidnen 15 wlis winaT,

rac daadastura mezobel-

ma rom cxovroben vakeSi.

mezoblis mier mocemuli

telefoni 2.22.05.14 ar

pasuxobs arc diliT da

arc RamiT. saarCevno si-

ebSi uxvad arian warmodgenilni

pirebi, romlebic ar cxovroben am

misamarTze, maT aravin ar icnobs _

e.w. `miwerilebis~ _ Cawera ki

aqvT.

gorkis q.#27-Si Cawerili nana

goginaSvili-erisTavi ramdenime

wlis gardacvlilia, mis meuRles,

givi erisTavs hyavs me-2 meuRle.

gardacvlili figurirebs cocxle-

bis siaSi. aseve benaSvilis q.#12-

Si siaSi myofi vaxtang mkervaliS-

vilic gardacvlilia.

aseve gardacvlilebi arian

cocxlebis siebSi:

spicina tatiana _ ben.aSvilis

q.#9-b.; megeneiSvili SoTa _ mar-

janiSvilis q.#65; koberiZe simoni

_ z.qvlivis q.#23; tatiSvili Te-

imurazi _ z.qvlivis q.#28; ZiZigu-

ri lia _ z.qvliZis q.#28

Segxvda siebSi Cawerili moqa-

laqe ori sxvadasxva gvariT.

gubaevi Tamari; elyanaSvili Ta-

mari _ diRombaZis q.#4 (28 ubani,

CuRureTis r-ni)

aseve uxvad arian moqalaqeebi,

romlebic ar arian siebSi, sinamd-

vileSi, isini aRniSnul misamarTze

cxovroben.

mixeil SafaTava _ mamardaSvi-

lis q.#12; nunu mWedliZe _ ` _ ~

tel: 95.05.87; lela WumberiZe_

benaSvilis q#9,

tel: 94.04.48.;

Tea WumberiZe

_ benaSvilis

q.#9 tel:

94.04.48.

axalcixis

quCidan amomrCe-

velma gviTxra, rom `nace-

bis~ maJoritarobis kandidat and-

ro alaviZes _ misma koordinator-

ma Sexvedra ver mouwyo, aseve ver

mougrova 10 amomrCevlis mxardam-

Weris xelmowera. amave andro ala-

viZem 17 ivniss, e.w. `londonis~

baRSi amomrCevelTa bavSvebisTvis

amRera ansambli `gvirila~, xolo

Semdeg bavSvebs dauriges nayini, na-

yini miirTves òcnebis~ mxardam-

WerTa Svilebmac. Semdeg ki CuRu-

reTis mikro-raionis TanamSromel-

ma xizaniSvilma bavSvebs ayvira

`madloba nacionalur moZraobaso~.

minda vuTxra q-n naTia mogelaZes:

_ es ar aris amomrCevelTa mosyid-

va?

saarCevno siebSi uxvad arian

moqalaqeebi, romlebic imyofebian

sazRvargareT. mag:

CuguaSvili lia _ axalcixis

q.#23; Coquri Sorena _ axalci-

xis q.#13; afxazava arCili _ eris-

Tavis q.#12; baSiriana elina _ ma-

mardaSvilis q.#17

yvelas xom ar CamovTvli, Cu-

RureTis raionis #10 ubanze sazR-

vargareT wasuli aris 65 moqala-

qe, `miwerili~ aris 41 moqalaqe,

gardacvlili 7 moqalaqe, siebSi

aris agreTve ucxoeTSi mcxovrebi,

moqalaqeoba, miRebulni adamianebic.

amomrCevlebma gviTxres: sagada-

saxados TanamSromeli, vinme daTo

gurgeniZe, aSinebs wvrili saqon-

liT movaWre pensionerebs, rom da-

ajarimebs 500 lariTo.

`kardakaris~ aqciiT naTeli

gaxda, rom xalxi aRar endoba xe-

lisuflebas, xalxs imedi aqvs da

ocnebobs, rom saakaSvilis xeli-

sufleba Seicvleba da cxovreba

gaumjobesdeba. `kardakaris~ aqci-

iT SemiZlia Tamamad vTqva, rom

saakaSvilis xelisufleba arCev-

nebSi xmas 10 procentamde Tu

aiRebs.

rusudan pataraia

`kardakaris~ aqciiTnaTeli xdeba, rom xalxixelisuflebas ar endoba

vano merabiSvils gadarCeniserTaderTi gza aqvs _ undagadadges da aqedan gaiqces...



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vesaubrebiT koalicia `qarTuli oc-

nebis~ warmomadgenels qalbaton ninogoguaZes

_ qalbatono nino, saganmanaTleblo

sistemaSi rom policiuri reJimi damk-

vidrda, es ukve TvalnaTelia, ras uqa-

dis es momaval Taobebs? an aseTi Ria

`TamaSi~ ar azaralebs xelisuflebas?

_ mandaturebs vCiodiT da Turme

uaresi win gveloda, dRes ukve policia

da kudia oficialurad Sesuli ganaTle-

bis sferoSi da isini ganageben iq yvela-

fers. es gaxlavT politikuri loia-

lizmis mixedviT awyobili sistema, ro-

melic ukve totalitarul

reJims emsgavseba im Tval-

sazrisiT, rom TiToeul

sistemas akontroleben

totalurad is adamianebi,

romlebic mmarTvel parti-

aSi muSaoben. Tumca, maTi

kompetencia naklebad awu-

xebs xelisuflebas.

2000 wlidan 2003

wlamde iqna SemuSavebuli

is saganmanaTleblo re-

forma, romelic Semdgom

ganxorcielda da `miiwera~

am xelisuflebam. cxadia,

es maTi SemuSavebuli ar

iyo.

_ Tqveni azriT, ratom moxda maia mi-

minoSvilis ganTavisufleba, xelisufle-

ba xom mas endoboda wlebis manZilze?

_ sakiTxi koka seferTelaZemac da

gigi TevzaZemac ise warmoadgines, TiT-

qos xelmZRvanelobasa da mas Soris iyo

konceftualuri SeuTavsebloba da Widi-

li da am `diad reformebs~ miminoSvili

xels uSlida. es aris SeuZlebeli. es

rom marTali yofiliyo, is gamocdebis

dawyebamde unda moexsnaT dakavebuli Ta-

namdebobidan. me vfiqrob, rom is poli-

tikuri niSniT gaxda maTTvis miuRebeli.

nebismier SemTxvevaSi gamoacxadeben,

rom gamocdebma kargad Caiara, rac SeiZ-

leba bevri abiturienti Cairicxeba imi-

tom, rom ar daiwyos gasaCivrebisa da

protestis procesebi, arCevnebis win ar

dagrovdes ukmayofilo adamianebi, winas-

war SemiZlia davamSvido. abiturientis

mSoblebi, rom maT Svilebs CaWra ar

emuqrebaT. es yvelaferi ki moxdeba imis

xarjze, rom erovnuli sagamocdo cent-

ris axali TanamSromlebis arakompeten-

turoba ar gamJRavndes. is, rom namuSe-

varTa gasworebis mxrivac totaluri

arakompetenturoba iqneba, darwmunebuli

var. namuSevarTa gasworebas _ codna un-

da, romelic maT ar gaaCniaT. etyoba amas

gulisxmobda koka seferTelaZe, roca

abiturientTaTvis komfortuli garemos

Seqmnaze saubrobda.

_ qalbatono nino, Tqvenc aRniSneT

da yvelam icis, rom misaRebi gamocdebi

umaRlesi saswavleblebis gareT gamota-

nil iqna imisaTvis, rom korufcia moes-

poT am sistemaSi, momavali wlidan ki

misaRebi gamocdebi kvlav skolebSi Ca-

tardeba, es xom ar Seuwyobs xels ko-

rufciuli garemos Seqmnas?

_ ucxoeTSic xdeba ise, rom skolis

gamosaSveb gamocdebs aqvT gadamwyveti

mniSvneloba, magram iq umaRles saswav-

leblebs aqvT avtonomia, da sakuTar we-

sebs ganaviTareben. cxadia, rom skolis

damTavrebisas rva gamocdis uceb Semo-

Reba moumzadeblad, sruli nonsensi iyo,

ramac kolafsur mdgomareobaSi Caayena

swavlis procesi.

dRes ras zomavs es gamocdebi aravin

ar icis. imisaTvis rom sistema gaimar-

Tos, amas sWirdeba Tavdauzogavi Sroma,

reformis gatareba am sferoSi nebismie-

ri kuTxiT, Zalian rTulia. gigi Tevza-

Zem Riad ganacxada, rom unda vaRiaroT,

rom skola codnas ver iZlevao, amitom

unda gadavideT iseT sistemaze, rom uf-

ro advili iyos umaRles saswavlebel-

Si mowyobao. e.i. unda miviRoT apriori,

rom skola ganaTlebas ver aZlevs mos-

wavleso.

ras niSnavs, is, rom skola ar an ver

iZleva codnas? ganaTlebis saministro

imisTvis arsebobs, rom skolam misces

codna moswavles, Torem sxva ra daniS-

nuleba aqvs am saministros?

gigi TevzaZis logikiT Tu vimsje-

lebT, xom ar jobia, saerTod gavauqmoT

skola da sabavSvo baRidan pirdapir

umaRles saswavlebelSi miviRoT patare-

bi? aba, sxvas ras niSnavs es?

skolis sagamocdo testebi isea Sed-

genili, rom imiT moswavlis codna ver

gaizomeba, isini umartivesia. Tu es saq-

me ase gagrZeldeba, qveyanaSi ganaTlebis

sistemas momavali ar uweria! wina wleb-

Si 3-4 saganSi mainc emzadebodnen mos-

wavleebi, romelTac mere umaRlesSi aba-

rebdnen, amJamad esec ispoba. samwuxa-

rod, dRes umaRles saswavleblebs ara-

nairi avtonomia ar gaaCniaT da aranair

kriteriumebs isini ar Txouloben umaR-

lesSi Casaricxad, amas ra hqvia?

dRemde ver gavige, ra saWiroa im

erTi zogadi unarebis gamocda, romelic

dRemde am xelisuflebisa da ganaTlebis

saministros mTavari prioritetia. amde-

ni welia am saganSi es gamocda tardeba

da misi aucilebloba riTia gamowveuli

_ yvelasaTvis gaugebaria.

politikuri situaciis Secvlis Sem-

TxvevaSi, am dargs sWirdeba sruliad

Secvla, organizebuli muSaoba, raTa aR-

dges skolis funqciac da umaRlesi sas-

wavleblis rolic.

eTer kasreliSvili

ganaTlebis sferos policia, kudi da

sodi akontrolebs

iinntteerrvviiuu 11996688 wwlliiss oolliimmppiiuurr,,

mmssoofflliiooss aarraaeerrTTggzziiss CCeemmppiioonnTTaann

roman ruruasTan..

__ bbaattoonnoo rroommaann,, rraa aarriiss ssppoorrttii

zzooggaaddaadd ddaa rraa aarriiss iiss TTqqvveennTTvviiss??

_ zogierTvis sporti da fizkul-

tura SeiZleba iyos gasarTobi, magram

olimpiuri da msoflio Cempioni

ekuTvnis xalxs da sazogadoebas. mi-

si damsaxureba, da Tu rames miiRwia

ekuTvnis xalxs da sazogadoebas, qve-

yanas. swored es gaxlavT patriotiz-

mi. Tu es ar eqneba, igi didi sport-

smeni ver iqneba.

__ ssaammwwuuxxaarroodd,, zzooggiieerrTTmmaa ssppoorrttss-

mmeennmmaa ggaaddaauuxxvviiaa aamm ggzzaass,, ppiirrddaappiirr

vvTTqqvvaaTT,, xxeellii aawwiiaa TTaavviiss ssaakkuuTTaarr xxaall-

xxzzee,, SSeeuurraaccxxyyooffaa mmiiaayyeennaa ssaakkuuTTaarr

gguullSSeemmaattkkiivvrreebbss.. rraass iittyyvviiTT aammaazzee??

_ samxedro armia qveyanaSi risT-

vis arsebobs, armia sakuTari qveynis

winaaRmdeg arsad ar midis. Rirseuli

moqalaqe ar SeiZleba gavides sakuTa-

ri qveynis winaaRmdeg. armia qveynebSi

imitom arsebobs, rom daicvas qveyana

mtrebisgan. sportsmenic asevea, mas,

ubralod, ar aqvs ufleba iyos miker-

Zoebuli. xelisuflebis zogierTi

warmomadgenlis mikvirs, romelic am-

bobs: `vinc ar aris Cveni partiis

wevri...~ ra gamodis, Tu ar var im

partiis wevri, prezidenti da mTav-

roba ara myavs? gamodis, rom prezi-

dents da mTavrobis wevrebs TavianTi

partiis wevrebi hyavT qveyanaSi? dRes

aris vinme opoziciidan qveynis mmarT-

velobaSi? ara, radgan yvela erTi

partiidan arian. nuTu yvela Wkviani

da saqmis gamkeTebeli adamiani mxo-

lod erT partiaSia? sxvebi sad ari-

an? ar hyavT prezidenti da mTavro-

ba? ar SeuZliaT miiRon monawileoba

qveynis marTvaSi? an ar uyvarT Tavi-

anTi qveyana? adamiani politikosi ma-

Sin xar, rodesac droze moxval da

droze waxval. Tu zomierebis grZno-

ba ar gaqvs, maSin did Secdomebs da-

uSveb, romelic SeiZleba damRupve-

lic aRmoCndes.

amis SegrZneba unda hqondes adami-

ans. rodesac mova dro da veRarafers

akeTeb, droze unda gaecalo da wax-

vide. xedavT, rogor hgavs erTmaneTs

sporti da politika. modiT erTxel

mainc gavaciloT romelime politi-

kosi operis Teatridan, darbazidan

madlobiT. erTi vinme mainc gavaci-

loT ase Rirseulad, Torem zogi ga-

agdes, zogi _ mokles... cudia, rode-

sac istoriis gakveTilebiT Wkuas ver

vswavlobT. dRes rac aklia Cvens sa-

zogadoebas, swored inteleqtia.

dRes bevrs saubroben demokratiaze,

magram ra aris WeSmariti demokratia,

jerac ver gagvigia.

yvelaferi damokidebulia Tavad im

adamianis niWze da unarze. mas SeuZ-

lia gaigos dRevandeli mdgomareoba

gaigos kargic, cudic, an rogor

icxovros im adamianma amas sakmao

Wkua-goneba, unda. ojaxs Tu kargad

marTavs adamiani, mas bevris gakeTeba

SeuZlia. kai biWis da gogos saxeliT

ar unda iniSnebodnen Tanamdebobebze

xalxi. Cven gvWirdeba specialistebi.

__ TTqqvveenn ddiiddii sskkoollaa ggaaiiaarreeTT rroo-

ggoorrcc ssppoorrttSSii,, aasseevvee ccxxoovvrreebbaaSSii..

TTqqvveennii uukkmmaayyooffiilloo aarraavviinn yyooffiillaa..

rrooggoorr aaxxeerrxxeebbddiiTT aammaass??

_ sabWoTa nakrebSi moulodnelad

movxvdi, pirvelTanrigosani viyavi,

aseTi ram iSviaToba iyo. momdevno

wels ki kapitnadac amirCies. farul

arCevnebSi 40 xma davagrove, metoqe-

ebma 29-29, sxvaTa Soris, eseni iyv-

nen titulovani moWidaveebi _ sapu-

novi da iguminovi. wlebis Semdeg

iguminovma Tqva: `rurua Cveni gundis

sindisi da patiosneba iyo~-o. eqvsni

viyaviT nakrebis wevrebi Cems woniT

kategoriaSi, magram rogorc kapitani,

yvelasTan samarTliani viyavi, amiT

davimsaxure pativiscema.

__ aaxxllaa TTuu vvaarrjjiiSSoobbTT??

_ ara, varjiSebma damRala. fizi-

kurad vSromob. aranair Sromas ar

vTakilob. nebismier Cemi asakis kacs

dResac davamarcxeb.

gia burduli

`netav, erTi romelime politikosi gagvacilebina

operis Teatridan madlobebis TqmiT~...


am werils rom sapatriar-

qos warmomadgenlebi waikiTxa-

ven, vvaraudob, an cxvirs aib-

zueben, an ufro radikalurni

kidev erTxel momayrian qoqo-

las, ise, rogorc SarSan, an-

timarTlmadideblur politi-

kur kanonze sapatriarqos xe-

lis mowerisas moiqcnen Cemi

werilebis seriis Semdeg, sa-

dac sapatriarqoSi gamefebul

usamarTlobebze vwerdi da

TviT meufe ilarion samxaraZis

amJamindeli mdgomareobac da-

vuxate yvelas. ramdenime dRe-

Si kvlav vapireb meufis mona-

xulebas da minda icodeT, miu-

xedavad Cems mier meufis mdgo-

mareobis TvalnaTliv aRweri-

sa, sapatriarqos arc erTi

warmomadgeneli ar yofila

gandegil meufesTan da erTi

xeli tanisamosic aravis miu-

tania RvTis anabarad mitove-

buli 70 wels gadacilebuli

moxucisTvis.

samagierod, sapatriarqoSi

mokalaTebuli umaRlesi samRv-

delo pirebi jipebSi arian

Caskupebulni da saaqao cxov-

rebaSi cdiloben sasufeveli

daimkvidron, radgan, veWvob,

saiqio cxovrebis swamdeT...

magram es sxva Temaa. geTan-

xmebiT. piraduli, delikatu-

ri, ufro frTxilad salapara-

ko. ki, batono, gavCumdebi,

sxvis rwmena-urwmunoebaze ar

vilaparakeb, magram, roca urw-

munoebis eSmakeuli sufeva

mZvinvarebs, xocaven adamianebs,

Seuracxyofen, cixeebSi adamia-

nebis sisxliT da xorciT ZRe-

bian, maTi wamebiT tkbebian, da-

Cexili cxedrebi gamoaqvT sapa-

timroebidan, roca qveyanaSi

kudianebis aRlumi imarTeba _

gei da lesbi jgufebi karebs

umtvreven axalgazrdebis cno-

bierebas, skolebSi rom bavSve-

bis tvinebis aRreva xdeba, xo-

lo e.w. `Tavisuflebis insti-

tuti~ eSmakeulTa TavSesaf-

rad aris qceuli, samRvdeloe-

ba konformistul, Semrigeb-

lur, diplomatiur poziciebs

rom iWers, amaze maqvs lapara-

ki. ramdenime dRis win wminda

sinodi Seikriba da ganaCina _

eleqtronuli pasportebi ne-

bayoflobiTi unda iyoso...

didi sjulis kanoni gvamc-

nobs, rom samRvdelo piri ar

unda Caeros politikur cxov-

rebaSi, garda gansakuTrebuli

mdgomareobisa da sinodis amas-

winandeli gancxadebac _ samR-

vdeloeba politikaSi ar Cae-

rioso, rogorc Cans, swored

am kanonidan gamomdinareobda,

magram axla saqarTvelos gan-

sakuTrebuli mdgomareoba Tu

ar aqvs, aba, amaze gansakuTre-

buli, netavi, rodis hqonda??

2004 wlis TebervalSi sa-

qarTvelos iusticiis saminis-

trom `saqarTvelos moqalaqis

plastikuri mowmobebis~ Sesa-

xeb daiwyo saubari, mowmobebi-

sa, romelic Seicavs Cipsa da

Sesabamisad, ricxvs 666. ga-

zafxulze siamayiT gvamcnes,

rom biometriuli pasportebis

gacema ukve daiwyo, Tan acxa-

debdnen, am pasportebiT evro-

kavSiris qveynebSi qarTvelTa

gasvla ufro martivi gaxde-

bao. TviT evropis saxelmwifo-

ebma: safrangeTma, inglisma,

germaniam, ukrainam, ruseTma,

marTlmadidebelma saberZneTma

uari Tqves ID baraTebze.

s a p atri ar qos

warmomadgenlebma

da wminda sinodma,

romlebic adamiani-

sadmi siyvaruliT

unda iyvnen savse,

gaampartavnebulni

dadian da zogierTi

Tval da yurdafse-

buli brmad rom

uvardeba kalTaSi

maT da gakerpebuli

rom hyavT umaRlesi

samRvdelo ierarqe-

bi, imas ver xvdebi-

an, saqarTveloSi

mosaxleobas, ubra-

lo moqalaqes xe-

lisufleba yelSi

xels rom uWers,

gadasaxadebiT rom

axrCobs, erovnulo-

bas rom uboWavs,

qarTvelebi ufro

daCagrulni rom arian TavianT

qveyanaSi, vidre somxebi, azer-

baijanelebi, Cinelebi, zangebi

da znedacemuli, garyvnili

iankebi, axla eleqtronuli ba-

raTebiT undaT am xalxis da-

yofa, dakabaleba, daxarisxeba

gasayidi xorciviT da isedac

limitirebuli Tavisuflebis

SezRudva. axla Cipiani paspor-

tiT unda Semamowmon sad vsun-

Tqav me, diRomSi Tu ameriku-

li pepliT SeWmuli baxmaros

naZvis ZirSi?! radgan ID bara-

Tis miRebisas ixsneba grafa,

sadac aRiricxeba _ 80 weli

icocxleb Tu 100, yovel

dRes, wuTsa da wams ra gaake-

Te, sad iyavi teritoriulad,

yvelaferi aRinusxeba.

safrangeTis profkavSire-

bis generaluri mdivani kom

Jakmeni ambobs: àm proeqtis

amoqmedeba sazogadoebaze po-

liciuri zedamxedvelobis gaZ-

lierebas gulisxmobs. eleqt-

ronuli piradobis mowmobebis

SemoRebis Semdeg policias eq-

neba adamianebis piradi monace-

mebi~.

saakaSvili ki acxadebs, rom

saqarTvelom ID baraTebis Se-

moRebiT gauswro evropis qvey-

nebs da isini am sakiTxSi Ca-

mogvrCnen (!).

ra gamodis? samRvdeloeba

da qveynis xelmZRvaneloba, ase

vTqvaT, erT xmaSi mRerian? xo-

lo is samRvdelo pirebi, vinc

simarTles amboben, iatakqve-

Sur moRvaweobas ewevian? maga-

liTad, mama basil mkalaviSvi-

li, vinc ieRovuri literatu-

ris gavrcelebaSi amxila sino-

dis wevrebi, cixeSi gamoketes,

mis mier agebuli salocavi

rom merabiSvilis, adeiSvilis,

bokerias da baramiZis xelmZR-

vanelobiT Selewes da iqidan

mama basili wveriT rom gamo-

aTries, maSin ar amouRia xma

sapatriarqos. qarTuli marT-

lmadidebluri eklesiis mrev-

lis wevri _ sandro girgvli-

ani rom tyeSi gatitvlebuli

awames, daCexes da mkvdari da-

toves, am mxecobazec sdumda

eklesia. guram SaraZes qarTu-

li saeklesio da saero siwmin-

deebis dacvisTvis rom quCaSi

Tavi gauxvrites, arc amaze

amouRia xma. romeli erTi Ca-

movTvalo?

gasagebia, didi sjulis ka-

noni politikaSi samRvdeloe-

bis CarTvas krZalavs...

adamianebis kvla politikis

nawili yofila, es me ar vico-

di!..

** ** **

mRvdeli vaxtang margianis

interviuSi, romelic man 1999

wlis 13 aprils àxal Taobas~

misca, vkiTxulobT:

` _ rac vTqvi, imaze SemiZ-

lia, iuridiulad vago pasuxi...

`7 ianvars ilia II-m dampa-

tiJa banketze saeklesio dRe-

saswaulis dReebSi. TiTqmis

darwmunebiT SemiZlia vTqva,

rom banketi Catarda, magram

maTTvis sul ar iyo Soba mniS-

vnelovani dResaswauli. yvela-

ze kargi Tamadebi iyvnen Cems

mier xsenebuli diakoni levan

sxilaZe da amJamad cxum-afxa-

zeTis mitropoliti daniel

daTuaSvili. maSin is arqimand-

riti iyo. ilia II-s yvela

ulocavda gamarjvebas, vinai-

dan... vageb pasuxs, marto xom

ar vijeqi im sufrasTan, Tu

sindisi Seawuxebs vinmes _

ulocavdnen ilia II-s, vinaidan

ilia II-is locviT iyo, rom...

_ locviT rom iyo, ra?

_ rom ganidevna gamsaxur-

dia saqarTvelodan da ras ar

uwodebda TviTon samRvdeloe-

ba. vinc iq isxdnen. ai, kons-

tantine meliqiZe, magaliTad.

erTi sityviT, ilia II-s gamar-

jvebas ulocavdnen, ulocavd-

nen gamsaxurdias damxobas, gin-

da Tu ara gaognebuli viyavi,

gaognebuli, radgan ar move-

lodi, rom me kaTalikosis sa-

`nebayoflobiTi~ warwymeda

àucilebelia sifxizle. gvmar-

Tebs, viyoT informirebulni da

sxvebsac mivawodoT informacia.

Tuki gavCumdebiT, maSin eleqtro-

nuli monaTmflobeloba Zalian ma-

le iqneba SemoRebuli. unda viyoT

sakuTari qveynis aqtiuri da ara pa-

siuri moqalaqeni. moZRvrebma unda

miawodon informacia mrevls, iqa-

dagon, gaafrTxilon TavianTi samwyso mosalodneli saSiSroe-

bis Sesaxeb. amgvarad SevZlebT win aRvudgeT momaval borot Za-

las, romelic gegmazomierad da etapobrivad amzadebs antiqris-

tes msoflio diqtaturas~.

mTawmindelTa xma(aTonis wminda mTa. èklesiuri swavlebani bolo Jamis Sesaxeb~)

`...1977 wels 25 dekembers

anderZis safuZvelze ilia II

patriarqad akurTxes. amis

Semdeg eklesiaSi dapirispi-

reba daiwyo. meufe ilarioni

(samxaraZe) simarTlis dad-

genas moiTxovda, xolo mit-

ropoliti gaiozi patriar-

qobisTvis ibrZoda, radgan

is iyo qorepiskoposi, e.i.

pirveli piri patriarqis

Semdeg jer kidev efrem II-

is dros. daviT V-is gardac-

valebis mere keratiSvili

xatebis qurdobis bralde-

biT cixeSi gauSves, xolo

ilarion samxaraZe gaurkve-

vel viTarebaSi mowamles...~

saerTo gazeTi,

#37, 2011 w.


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meufe ilarioni

vis mxaresaa eklesia _

xalxisken Tu xelisuflebisken?


xiT am pirovnebas davinaxavdi _

aRvsils zizRiT.

ra Tqma unda, erTmaneTs eci-

lebodnen misaloci sadRegrZe-

loebis TqmaSi arqimandriti da-

nieli da diakoni levan sxila-

Ze, romlebic ulocavdnen ga-

marjvebas ilia II-s.

_ mamao, SeiZleboda Tu ara

gamosuliyo sinodi da damdga-

riyo barikadebis sxvadasxva

mxares mdgar qarTvelTa Soris

da sisxlisRvra Sewyvetiliyo?

_ valdebulebi iyvnen. ar ga-

momivides gamsaxurdias dacvad,

magram nu gavakeTebT ise, rom

yvelaferSi raRac gviSlis

xels. viRacas gamsaxurdias meg-

reloba uSlida xels.

erTmaneTs pirnaTlad Sevxe-

doT TvalebSi. me ranair pasu-

xisgebaSic ar unda Cavvarde,

Tu kaci mqvia, ar maqvs ufleba

gamsaxurdias ar vuwodo WeSma-

riti marTlmadidebeli, morw-

mune. imitom, rom, rasac gamsa-

xurdia ebrZoda, iqneboda es

aralegalurad Tu legalurad

da, saerTod, yvela is preten-

zia, yvela is braldeba, rasac

igi marqsistul sazogadoebas

uyenebda, am yvelafris gakeTeba

eklesiis prerogativa iyo. ek-

lesias unda daesva es bralde-

ba am urwmuno sazogadoebisaT-

vis. SeuiaraRebeli TvaliTac

rom gadavxedoT, amas yvela mix-

vdeba; moxda ki piriqiT. aviRoT

70-iani wlebi da aviRoT Tun-

dac prezidentobis periodi.

gamsaxurdias pretenziebis mo-

geriebis erT-erTi saSualeba,

saxeldobr, eklesia iyo. me da-

vexmarebi maT da arqivSi movZeb-

noT maSindeli gazeTi `komunis-

ti~. daapatimres Tu ara gamsa-

xurdia da kostava, gazeTi sav-

se iyo gamsaxurdiasadmi ekle-

siis mxridan cru monaWoriTa

da cru braldebebiT. eklesia

aWarbebda centralur komi-

tets, ministrTa sabWos, prezi-

diums, prokuraturas, saSinel

suks da ZirTadi bralmdebeli

TviTon iyo. TviTon eklesia

gamsaxurdias uwodebda erTa

Soris SuRlis Camomgdebs da

a.S.

_ vin iyvnen eseni?

_ axlave getyviT: mitropo-

liti maJuga, nevelis eklesiis

winamZRvari, mitropoliti gai-

oz keratiSvili _ qorepisko-

posi, wilkneli episkoposi, se-

minariis reqtori. Tanamdebobebi

RmerTma mogces!

_ vin aris mesame?

_ alaverdeli episkoposi

grigol cercvaZe da a.S. xom xe-

davT, ra xdeba? nacvlad imisa,

rom eklesias daeWira mxari am

pirovnebisaTvis da, saerTod,

misi ideebisTvis, piriqiT moxda.

eklesia gaxda gamsaxurdias ide-

ebis mogeriebis erT-erTi saSu-

aleba. rac Seexeba im cnobil,

tragikul movlenebs. eklesia

valdebuli iyo Careuliyo.

marxvaao.

marxvaSi marto is xom ar

Sedis, rom karaqi da rZe ar

SevWamoT, moveridoT avsityvao-

bas, SfoTs da a.S. valdebulni

iyvnen misuliyvnen da ukanaskne-

li Zal-Rone exmaraT, raTa sis-

xlisRvra ar momxdariyo, mag-

ram piradad ilia II-m xom arCia

dumili? am dumilSi ra imale-

ba, Tqven amas unda mixvdeT.

_ mama zaqariam Tqva, is avad

iyoo?

_ tyuilia. ra SuaSia avad-

myofoba. Tu avad iyo, qorepis-

koposic avad iyo? mTeli samR-

vdeloeba avad iyo? erT-erTi

mainc unda gaegzavna vinme. anda,

ra SuaSia, me xom ar vambob,

ginda Tu ara, gasuliyo ilia II

da iq TofiT xelSi damdgari-

yo-meTqi? iq sinodi an mRvdeli

mainc gaeSva?~ (`axali Taoba~,

1999 w.).

ar vici, Tqven aqedan samRv-

deloebis poziciebi gecnoT Tu

ara, magram piradad me, eklesi-

is diplomatiuri xelwera Za-

lian meniSna. zustad igive xde-

ba axla, rac xdeboda 10 da co-

ta meti wlis winaT.

rac Seexeba gamsaxurdias,

masze dResac, misi oponentebic

ki ver ityvian imas, rom morw-

mune ar iyo da erovnul saxel-

mwifos ar aSenebda. Tumca ar

dascalda, magram qveynis da

RvTis siyvaruliT rom iRvwoda

mTeli cxovreba, zviadis mosis-

xle mtrebic dameTanxmebian ama-

Si. maS, ratom airCia samRvde-

loebam bolSevikuri gza da ra-

tom dauWira mxari eduard-gi-

orgi SevardnaZes? ratom ga-

nudga zviad gamsaxurdias, da-

moukidebeli qarTuli saxelm-

wifos balavaris Camyrels?

1993 wlis 14 seqtembers

did mitingze ilia II eduard

SevardnaZes mimarTavs: `mTeli

saqarTvelo Relavs. amitom uf-

leba maqvs, rogorc saqarTve-

los sulier mamas da piradad

Tqvens sulier mamas (mimarTavs

SevardnaZes _ i.k.) mogceT

locva-kurTxeva, rom mTel sa-

qarTvelos ganucxadoT, rom

Tqven brZandebiT saqarTvelos

meTauri~. razec eduard Sevar-

dnaZe Sekrebil aTasobiT (!) mo-

mitinges niSnismogebiT gadasZa-

xebs mTavrobis saxlis fanjri-

dan: `xma RvTisa da xma erisao~.

maSin samRvdeloeba mxars

SevardnaZes rom uWerda, axla

meufe kalistrate gulSi rom

ixutebs saakaSvils da Svilad

rom hyavs aRiarebuli, sa-

patriarqos saidumlo vi-

zitebiT xan ugulava rom

stumrobs, xan soso Tofu-

riZe da xan sxva Tanamdebo-

bis pirebi, saakaSvils rom

amoiyeneben xolme gverdSi

ivaniSvilis aSenebul same-

bis sakaTedro taZarSi da

ise rom atareben wirva-

locvas, zviad gamsaxurdia

qristianobis mteri iyo da

mixeil saakaSvili da edu-

ard SevardnaZe qristes-

moyvareni arian? dakargul

`cxvars~ patronoben? ama-

sobaSi ramdeni `cxvari~

daekarga saqarTvelos ek-

lesias, daTvala vinmem?..

iranda kalandaZe

aammbbrroossii xxeellaaiiaa: ,,...is

yovlad Seuferebeli eqspe-

rimentebi, romelsac axde-

nen qarTveli eris zurgze,

aucileblad miiyvans mas

fizikuri gadaSenebis da

sulierad gavelurebisa da

gaxrwnis karamde! ers arT-

meven mama-papaTa sisxliT

da ZvlebiT gapoxierebul

miwa-tyes, romelsac ucxoe-

Tidan SemoxiznulT urige-

ben: maTi wyalobiT isedac

gaRatakebul ers piridan

hglejen misi sisxliTa da

ofliT moweul sarCos da

gaugebaris siCqariT isev ucxoeTSi miezidebian. ers

ugmoben da arTmeven mSobliur enas, mas ubilwaven ma-

ma-papur erovnul kulturas...”

1922 weli, 7Tebervali

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lliiaarrdd oorraassii mmiilliioonnii rroomm ddaaaaxxaarrjjaa..

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lliissTTvviiss mmiiSSaass TTaavviissii ,,,,kkrreessllooss”” SSeessaa-

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avTandil qurxuli __

iinnJJiinneerrii

miSa yovelgvar istoriulsda erovnuls gvispobs

mkiTxvelebi gvweren


_ isini gamodian Waobidan da nislidan,

rom sxeuli SeiZinon,

mere ki iseve ukan brundebian _

ambobda sociologi emzar jgerenaia,

romelic sinamdvileSi poeti iyo,

magram man amis Sesaxeb araferi icoda,

`isini gamodian Waobidan da nislidan~ _

megrelebze ambobda jgerenaia,

Tavadac megreli,

romelic yovelgvari gaugebrobis Tavidan

asacileblad,

xSir-xSirad xazs usvamda,

rom megreli ki aris,

magram, ra Tqma unda, qarTvelia.

es daaxloebiT ise JRerda,

rogorc zurab Jvanias sityvebi:

_ me var qarTveli, maSasadame me var evropeli!

_ me var megreli, maSasadame, me var qarTveli!

_ brZanebda

jgerenaia,

romlis gvaric SeiZleba sityva jgirs

ukavSirdebodes,

SeiZleba jgrags...

asea Tu isea,

meore megrelis, giorgi gvaxarias mier

gadacema `fsiqo~-Si

miwveuli jgiri koCi jgerenaia

micvalebulebis gasvenebis da dakrZalvis

im ritualebze saubrobda,

romlebic, mavanTa da mavanTa azriT,

epoqis konteqstidanaa amovardnili

da civilizebuli eris prestiJs

ar Seesabameba.

_ migviReben ki Cven, aseTebs, evrokavSirSi? _

ikiTxa gogi gvaxariam.

(jgerenaia Tu megrelic aris

da imave dros aris qarTveli,

gvaxaria mxolod qarTvelia,

romelic ise laparakobs samegreloze,

rogorc aTasobiT kilometriT

daSorebul istoriul samSobloze,

romelTanac araferi akavSirebs, garda gvarisa)

hoda, am gvaxariam ikiTxa:

_ migviReben ki Cven, aseTebs, evrokavSirSi?

filmis reJisorma dagvaimeda,

rom migviReben,

radgan evropelebs araferi aqvT

sawinaaRmdego

Cveni micvalebuli

Tundac erTi kvira gvesvenos saxlSi.

arc imis winaaRmdegni arian

isini

micvalebuls pirsaxoci, saponi,

pirsaparsi,

jagrisebi (kbilis, tansacmlis)

sunamoebi da sxva piradi moxmarebis

sagnebi CavatanoT kuboSi.

evropelebs arc is aSfoTebT,

micvalebulis kubosTan

qalebi rom xmamaRla mosTqvamen,

kivian,

loyebs ixoken,

mamakacebi ki SublSi iSenen xelebs.

evropelebi mSvidad uyureben Turme

micvalebulisTvis saiqioSi

myofi axloblebis saxelze

werilebis gatanebis Tu

zepiri informaciebis

dabarebis tradiciasac,

evropelebi arc imas aprotesteben,

rom Cveulebrivi glexis,

vinme bondos Tu Zabulis gasvenebaze,

imdeni xalxi ikribeba,

gegoneba, cnobili msaxiobi

an politikosi gardaicvalao.

evropelebis SeSfoTebas mxolod

erTaderTi sakiTxi iwvevs:

_ es aris drois problema!

_ saidan da ratom gvaqvs Cven

imdeni dro,

rom micvalebulis sasTumalTan

Svidi (xandaxan meti...)

dRe-Rame vaTenoT? gaflanguli dro...

uazrod gaxarjuli dro...

roca yana gaqvs gasaToxni, Cai mosakrefi,

Sen ki micvalebuls dastrialeb Tavze

Svidi dRe-Rame,

micvalebuls, romelsac verc moTqmiT da

loyebis xokviT

gaacocxleb,

verc Sublze xelebis waSeniT.

* * *

`Cqimi sqvami odabade,

sqanda breli miRu oragade~ _

saidanRac Camesmoda es melodia,

romelic gadacemaSi

ar JRerda,

magram is igulisxmeboda

da nel-nela misrutavda,

rogorc Tbili nisli,

es nisli iyo axla Cemi sxeuli,

xolo Waobi _ samSoblo,

fexisgulebze rom agkvria

da arsad ar giSvebs.

* * *

`vai Suri, sayvareli,

Rura muSi mamarde re,

rinaSi neba qordasni

qianaSi muSi mafarTa re.

vai, Suri sayvareli...

Suri megrulad suls niSnavs,

SurisZiebao rom vambobT,

sulis Ziebas vgulisxmobT,

mSobliuri saxlis gareT

gardacvlilis

sulis Ziebas,

romelsac Sin unda dabruneba

da gza ver gamougnia.

* * *

is qarafidan gadaiCexa...

nislis brali iyo yvelaferi _

imis nacvlad rom moexvia,

pirdapir wavida da nislSi Secura.

mihqroda axla sikvdilisken

da gverdiT dedis kivili mosdevda:

_ xviCa, nana squa...

_ xviCa, nana squa...

is micuravda nislSi, sikvdilisken

da kidev mamisken,

romlis gadidebuli suraTi,

mTvareSi Cadgmuli,

engurs gaRma, mTis wverze idga

da TiTqos Tavisken uxmobda.

... meore dRes jer misi sxeuli waasvenes,

xolo Semdeg misi suli

waiyvanes

sulis maZieblebma _

Zafi manqanis saWes miabes,

is Zafs gamohyva

da kvlav daiwyo gza Sinisken.

* * *

evropisagan gansxvavebiT

samegreloSi fiqroben,

rom micvalebulis pativiscema

sakuTari Tavis pativiscemaa.

radgan Senc momavali

micvalebuli xar

da rogorc axla mas moeqcevi,

ise mogeqcevian Senc,

roca gardaicvlebi.

es Seni

gasvenebacaa.

repeticia Seni momavali gasvenebisTvis,

sadac Sens

rols sxva asrulebs.

Sens nacvlad sxva wevs kuboSi,

magram mis gverdiT Senc xar,

Senc mis gverdiT igulisxmebi.

micvalebulisTvis ki ara,

SenTvis idgmeba

es dramatuli speqtakli.

es Sen garwmuneben,

xom xorcis ubralo naWeri

ki ar xar,

aramed xati RvTisa,

romelic ki ar kvdeba,

aramed gardaicvleba

da aqidan, droebiTi

miweris adgilidan,

axla iq gadadis,

samudamo sacxovrebelSi.

SenTvis, cocxlisaTvis

mRerian am simRerebs.

Sen garwmuneben,

rom maSinac ar mokvdebi,

roca mokvdebi.

ubralod, sxvagan miemgzavrebi.

amieridan Sen aqac xar da iqac,

Sen xar mekavSire,

casa da miwas Sua,

zemo da qvemo dasaxlebas Sua,

maradiuli mekavSire,

maradiuli informatori...

cocxalTa da micvalebulTaTvisanu vixsnaT evrokavSiri!

leqsi eZRvneba filmis `gadaeci Cems megobars, rom cocxali var~Cveneba-ganxilvis monawileebs da filmis reJisors. (sazRvargareT

mcxovrebi qarTveli reJisoris nino kirTaZis dokumenturi filmi: `gadaeci Cems

megobars, rom cocxali var~, mogviTxrobs micvalebulis gasvenebisa da dakrZalvis

qarTul adaT-wesebze. filmi gadaRebulia samegrelos regionSi).

vaxtang xaCilava


* * *

rogorc vTqviT,

evropelebs ukvirT

ratom vflangavT

ase uazrod dros,

ratom vxarjavT

ase uazrod da umiznod.

magram evropelebisgan gansxvavebiT

samegreloSi fiqroben,

rom siyvarulisTvis

gaxarjuli dro

ar SeiZleba umizno da uazro iyos.

marTalia,

is arc evroebSi gamoixateba,

arc dolarebSi,

arc larebSi,

magram, samagierod,

iseT auwonav simdidres qmnis,

rogoric gaxlavT siyvaruli.

es iseTi simdidrea,

rasac mets gascem,

miT ufro bevrdeba,

rac mets daxarjav,

miT ufro meti gibrundeba ukan

esec biznesia,

siyvarulis didi biznesi,

sadac Cadebuli

TiToeuli wuTi

maradisobad gibrundeba.

* * *

_ migviReben Cven, aseTebs,

evrokavSirSi? _

kiTxulobda gvaxaria

modiT, Cven TviTon miviRoT

es evrokavSiri CvenTan,

samegrelos romelime

mivardnil sofelSi

gavxsnaT siyvarulis

biznesakademia

da SevaswavloT

siyvarulis marketingi

da menejmenti

amaT hgoniaT,

dolars plus dolari

ufro metia,

vidre siyvaruls

plus siyvaruli.

modiT, gavxsnaT samegrelos

romelime sofelSi siyvarulis

biznesakademia da vixsnaT

evrokavSiri!

vixsnaT evrokavSiri!

davexmaroT mas,

xelaxla aRmoaCinos Tavisi Tavi

da Tavisi momavali aq,

samegreloSi...

* * *

rodis mixvdebian isini,

rom saavadmyofos

palataSi mitovebuli deda

mitovebuli RmerTia,

romelic umadurma Svilebma

martoobisTvis gaswires.

xelnakravi RmerTi,

Seuracxyofili RmerTi,

unugeSebeli RmerTi,

romelic kidev erTxel rwmundeba

Tu ra saSinelia adamiani,

romelic fulis mkeTebel

robotad iqceva

isini daRupaven dedamiwas

da Tu vinmes SeuZlia

maTi gadarCena SeuZlia

Zabulis, lebardedan,

an Tundac mzeqalas, barisaxodan,

gnebavT, naTelas mulaxidan.

2004 w.

aRsrullebis erovnullma biurom

Tbillisis saapellacio sasamarTllos mi-

er 2012 wllis 20 ivniss gacemulli sa-

aRsrullebo furcllebis aRsrullebis

uzrunvellyofis mizniT, biZina ivaniS-

villis aqciebis 100%-ss ss “qarTu

jgufSi”, aqciebis 100%-ss ss “qarTu

bankSi”, agreTve aqciebis 21.7%-ss ss

“progres bankSi” yadaRa 26 ivniss da-

ado. Tumca, rogorc saqarTvelloSi

myofma ucxoelli aqcionerebis advoka-

ttebma ganacxades, biZina ivaniSvilli ar

aris “qarTu jgufis” aqcioneri da

“qarTu jgufis” aqciebis gayidva

ucxouri investticiebis eqspropriaci-

ad Sefasdeba. SegaxsenebT, rom “qar-

Tu jgufs” 16 aqcioneri hyavs, aqedan

14 ucxouri kompaniaa, 2 – qarTulli.

“qarTu jgufSi” aqciebis fllobas Ta-

vad ivaniSvillic uaryofs. vesubrebiT

laSa nacvliSvils.

_ batono laSa, rogor imoqmedebs

mosaxleobis ganwyobaze xelisuflebis

es gadawyvetileba?

_ reaqcia unda iyos mSvidi, gawo-

nasworebuli. aq aris erTi safrTxe -

Cven SecdomaSi ar unda Segviyvanos sa-

akaSvilma - rom TiTqos Cven unda vre-

agirebdeT mis gamowvevebze, TiTqos is

ganapirobebs dRis wesrigs. es ase araa.

amis iluziis Seqmnis SesaZlebloba

mas ar unda mivceT.

yvelaferi, rasac is akeTebs - daya-

daRebidan dawyebuli auqcionis CaTv-

liT, TavisTavad aris reagireba imaze,

rom biZina ivaniSvili da „qarTuli

ocneba“ imdenad dawinaurda politi-

kur procesSi, rom saakaSvils

kriminaluri qmedebebiT reagire-

bis garda, araferi darCenia. is

reagirebs biZina ivaniSvilis aSka-

ra upiratesobaze, upiratesobis

flangi Tvisobrivad ki sxvagan

aris. es aris sasikvdilod ganwi-

ruli sxeulis konvulsiebi. Cven

gvmarTebs mxolod simSvide, mi-

zandasaxuloba, provokaciebs ar

ayola, movlenaTa analizi ara

emociis, aramed inteleqtis xar-

jze. Cven Cveni dRis wesrigi

gvaqvs - sajaro da maJoritareb-

Tan Sexvedrebi, saerTaSoriso

TanamegobrobasTan TanamSromloba.

gamarjvebisaTvis “ganwiruli“ bi-

Zina ivaniSvilis inauguraciis

dRe axlovdeba, romlis CaSlasac

cdilobs marginaluri, destruq-

ciuli opozicia saakaSvilis sa-

xiT. Cven, qarTvel xalxs, xeli-

suflebis wyaros, ukve gvyavs faq-

tobrivi xelisu-

fali. Sesabamisad,

xelisuflebaSi

myof ivaniSvils

da „qarTul ocne-

bas“ meti Tmenis

valdebuleba mar-

Tebs am mavneble-

bis provokaciul

qmedebebze. Cven Tu

imave registrSi

vupasuxeT, isini

ufro mets avneben

qveyanas.

_ biZina iva-

niSvili samarT-

lebriv sivrces ar gascdenia, Tumca

qarTuli samarTliT, mas dReisaTvis

ar aqvs moqalaqeoba, misi, iseve, ro-

gorc koaliciis wevri partiebis fi-

nansuri wyaroebi gadaketilia...

_ kategoriulad ver dageTanxme-

biT, imaSi, rom mas moqalaqeoba ar

aqvs. moqalaqeoba, romauli gagebiT,

qveynis msaxurebaa, ase, rom, inatros

aseTi moqalaqeoba saakaSvilma. finan-

sebTan dakavSirebiT saubaric ubra-

lod araadekvaturia, radgan ivaniSvi-

li eleqtoraluri trilioneria. ga-

jiutebuli saakaSvi-

li xalxis ndobas

ver daayadaRebs, es

aqtivi xuTi sxvadasx-

va xelisuflebis Sec-

vlas eyofa. ra mate-

rialuri resursi

dasWirdeba, teqniku-

rad rom gavaformoT

ivaniSvilis xelisuf-

leba, amis saSualebas

saqarTvelos moqala-

qeebi Cven TviTon

movZebniT.

_ nulovani tol-

erantobis politikis

gagrZelebis Sesaxeb

jer Ss ministris mo-

adgilem, Semdeg Tavad

prezidentma isaubra.

am gancxadebas Zalian male mohyva sam-

Tavrobo cvlilebebi. rogor SeZlebs

xelisufleba am politikis ganxorci-

elebas?

_ 1945 wlis mart-aprilSi, hit-

leris bunkerSi igegmeboda moskovis

aReba. „netar arian...“, _ ver vityvi,

ufro - giJi Tavisufalia. maT SeuZli-

aT avnon qveyanas, gazardon xelisuf-

lebidan wasvlis fasi, _ vgulisxmob

moqalaqeebis janmrTelobas, sicocx-

les, ra fass gadavixdiT, es Cvens go-

nierebazea damokidebuli.

samTavrobo konfiguracias - vin

dawinaurda, vin daqveiTda, SesaZloa

JurnalistebisaTvis hqondes mniSvne-

loba, magram politikuri procesisT-

vis amas aranairi mniSvneloba ar aqvs.

xomaldi daRupvisTvisaa ganwiruli,

procesi dasrulebulia. ar arsebobs

Zala, romelic ereva xalxs. sazogado-

ebis daculobis recepti - solidaro-

baa.

_ im SemTxvevaSi Tu biZina ivaniS-

vili ityvis, rom arCevnebi gayalbdeba

da mosaxleobas aqciisken mouwodebs,

kvlevis mixedviT dadebiTi pasuxi

27%-mma gasca, 53-mma uaryofiTi, 19%-mma

ki ar icis”, - ganacxada luis navarom.

ramdenad mizanSewonilia NDI-s pi-

rvel kvlevaSi SekiTxvis amgvari for-

mulireba?

_ sazogadoebrivi azris kvleva da

misi mravalmxrivi analizi, ukanask-

nel wlebSi, yvelaze popularul

sportis saxeobad iqca, rogorc ity-

vian: “Âñå ëýäè äåëàþò ýòî”. sociolo-

gia Cvens qveyanaSi, sazogadoebrivi

azris kvlevidan, sazogadoebriv azr-

ze zogjer uxeSi, rig SemTxvevebSi

ki filigranuli zemoqmedebis iara-

Rad gadaiqca. originaluri ar viqne-

bi Tu vityvi, rom gamrudebuli sar-

kis principi ZalaSia da amis bevri

magaliTi arsebobs, Tundac imave en-

deai-s mier gamocxadebuli 10%-iani

mxardaWeris mqone, qarTuli ocnebis

grandiozuli aqciebi dedaqalaqsa da

regionebSi.

Tu Sedga sazogadoebrivi konsesu-

si imis Taobaze, rom arCevnebi gayal-

bda da amoiwura yvela legaluri sa-

Sualeba am gayalbebuli Sedegebis ko-

reqtirebisa, maSin rogor moiqceva mo-

qalaqe, romelsac arCevani mohpares?

SeiZleba, am SemTxvevaSi nordikuli

temperamentis adamianma Tqvas, Semdgom

arCevnebs davelodebio, magram saqarT-

veloSi, darwmunebuli var, umravle-

soba gamova quCaSi, raTa daicvas saku-

Tari arCevani da Tu saqarTvelos mo-

qalaqeebis umravlesobis SegrZnebebi

daemTxveva politikuri lideris, am

SemTxvevaSi ivaniSvilis ganwyobebs,

darwmunebuli var 27%-iT es aRar

Semoifargleba. daTa TuTaSxias perif-

razi rom gavakeToT, veravin gaayal-

bebs ise arCevnebs, rom es moqalaqeeb-

ma ar igrZnon... rac Seexeba revolu-

cias, yvelgan da yvela dros, revolu-

ciis avtori da Semoqmedi xelisufle-

baa da ara opozicia... revolucionere-

bi mudam versalSi sxedan.

nino fircxalava

saakaSvili xalxis ndobas ver daayadaRebs


ramdenime dRis win, albaT,

yvelam movismineT, didi xnis me-

gobrebis miSa saakaSvilis da va-

no merabiSvilis `kadrs miRma~

privatuli saubari, roca prezi-

dentad wodebuli adamiani premi-

er-ministrs eubneba: `bolomde mi-

awvnen, ai, ìmenna~ bolomde Ses-

ces debatebSi~-o! magram, rodesac

evroparlamentSi gamarTuli deba-

tebis Sinaarsi TiToeuli moqala-

qisTvis sajaro gaxada qarTulma

nacionalurma Tu `nacionalurad~

komerciulma, e.w. opoziciurma

arxebma _ Zalian, Zalian Sevwux-

di da mogaxsenebT, ratom: ro-

gorc gairkva, Turme evroparla-

mentarebi saqarTveloSi arCevne-

biswina viTarebis ganxilvas saer-

Tod ar apirebdnen, magram `madam

kolontais~ da `hercogi talei-

ranis~ daJinebuli moTxovniT, de-

batebi iZulebiT mainc dauwyiaT!

ki, batono, daiwyes, magram iqamde

koaliciis `diplomatiuri~ misie-

bi aRma-daRma rom dafrinavdnen,

xarjavdnen seriozul Tanxebs da

mTel saqarTvelos da sakuTriv

ivaniSvils rom aimedebdnen _ `sa-

akaSvilis mxardamWeri dasavleT-

Si aRaravin darCao~ _ raSia saq-

me? anu,

evroparlamentSi ga-marTuli iZulebiTi de-batebis dros, koalici-is lobisturi kompani-is misi delegaciisa daTviTon lobistebis`warmatebuli garja~romeli evroparlamen-taris gamosvlaSi daa-fiqsireT? ra gamodis _maT mier ZalisZalad

mopovebulma debatebma`nacionaluri moZrao-bis~ sasargeblod Sede-gi ratom moitana?!

Tqven rogor fiqrobT, es Sem-

TxveviTia?! Cemi Rrma rwmeniT, ar

aris SemTxveviTi, radgan aseTi

`gadacdomebi~ am emisrebis Cveu-

li `triukia~! marTali giTxraT,

sruliadac ar aris sagangaSo,

ras ityvian evroparlamentarebi

arCevnebis wina debatebSi, magram

piradad CemTvis Zalian sagangaSo,

iyo litvis yofili prezidentis,

sabWoTa `kgb~-sTan saeWvod daax-

loebuli Cinovnikis, vitautas

landsbergisis, ramdenime miniSne-

ba, romelic man zogadad Tqveni

mxardamWerebis, ese igi opozici-

urad ganwyobili adamianebis misa-

marTiT gamoTqva _ am adamianebis

mxridan Tavisuflebis SezRudva-

ze saubari warmoadgens nacistur

da faSistur Tavdasxmebs, anu,

rogorc isini uwodeben, araqar-

Tul, aramarTlmadideblur da

umciresobebis interesebis damc-

vel mTavrobaze! ucnauria, magram

aseTi siZulvilis teqstebs dade-

biTad xvdeba araTu rusuli, ara-

med evropeli liberalebis nawi-

lic!

gamodis, vitautas landsber-

gisisTvis, saqarTvelos mosaxle-

obaSi Tuki erovnuli, qarTuli

da marTlmadidebluri mowodebebi

gaismis _ es faSizmi da nacizmia!

anda, roca umciresobaTa Se-

viwroebaze saubrobda, amxanagi

landsbergi eTnikur jgufebs gu-

lisxmobda Tu maT, visac rusTa-

velis saxelobis gamzirze ukana-

lebisa Tu enebis qneviT `gacun-

culeba~ ewadaT?!

rasakvirvelia, landsbergisi

swored am ukanasknelebs gulisx-

mobda, Torem saqarTveloSi eTni-

kuri jgufebis araTu Seviwroe-

bis, aramed Seuracxyofis faqte-

bic ki ar gamovlenila, Tu ar

CavTvliT mavanTa mier inspirire-

bul da Semdeg xelisufalTa mi-

er mxardaWeril gegmiur omebs

afxazeTsa Tu samaCabloSi!

evroparlamentarebis gamosv-

lebSi sxva uamravi braldebac ga-

ismoda, magram, amjerad absolu-

turad xazgasmuli is iyo, rom

Cveni `faSistur-nacisturi~ Tav-

dasxmebia maTTvis yvelaze saSiSi

da Cemi werilis mTavari gzavni-

lic, swored am `saSiSroebiT~

aris nakarnaxevi!

rogorc mogexsenebaT, saqarT-

velos mosaxleobis udides

nawils `nac. moZraoba~ da

mixeil saakaSvili imitom

ezizReba, rom igi marTlma-

dideblobas, erovnul-tra-

diciul zneobriv dogmebs

da zogadad, qarTul menta-

lobas ebrZvis! agreTve

ezizReba is adamianebic, ro-

melTa monawileobiT jer

gldanis, Semdeg ki feriis

eklesiebi daingra! fexiT

gaiTela xatebi, saeklesio

inventari, xolo sasulie-

ro pirebi mravali wliT

sapyrobileSi aRmoCndnen!

rogorc Tavad uyureT,

am uRmerTobis wamxaliseb-

lebi evroparlamentis àv-

toritetul~ warmomadgen-

lobaSic mravlad yofilan

da es is evropelebi brZan-

debian, romelnic `gei~ me-

rebis, `gei~ prezidentebis Tu

lesbosel-seqtantebis aqtiuri

mxardaWeriT iwoneben Tavs da, ra

gasakviria, aseTive TavgamodebiT

ukve dRes, saakaSvilis `demokra-

tiul winsvlebs~ rom lobirebd-

nen, ara?!

sxvisi ra mogaxsenoT, magram

piradad me mimifurTxebia aseTi

evroparlamentisTvis da asgzis

mimifurTxebia im `verdiqtisaT-

vis~, romelic maT ramdenime dRis

win qarTvel xalxs gamoutanes _

mixeil saakaSvilis sasargeblod!

èvropa ar iyideba!~,_ SemogviTvales maT daCvenc davijereT, ara?ra sasaciloa...

evropa rom Zaliandidi xnis win iyidebodada iyideba dResac, oR-ond sakuTari interese-bidan gamomdinare, mso-fliom kargad uwyis!

Cemgan SeiZleba ar geswavle-

bodeT, magram SegaxsenebT, rom

jer kidev nicSe `beber meZavs~

uwodebda mas!

pirveli msoflio omis dam-

Tavrebis Semdeg osvald Spengle-

ri werda: èvropa, rogorc idea

mokvda, es aris evropis daisi!~

cnobili amerikeli filoso-

fosi pikimir soronecini ki Tana-

medrove dasavleTze ase wers:

`Tanamedrove dasavleTi es aris

paTologiis muzeumio~, magram ra

TavSi vixliT Tundac geniosi

nicSes mosazrebas evropis Sesa-

xeb, Tuki Cvens did moZRvars, Cve-

nive nasroli tyviiT moklul

ilia WavWavaZes ar gavixsenebT?

ilia ambobda: `rasizamT, roca evropis po-litikaSi arc samarT-lianobas, arc zneobaskuTvnili adgili aruWiravs da yovelive ga-morCenasa da angariSseqvemdebareba~! ufrometic, ilia WavWavaZe,iseve rogorc qarTve-lebis, evropelTa znisSesaxebac siRrmiseulganmartebas akeTebs daambobs: `raki evropazedmidgeba saqme, aq naZira-la grZnobani evropispolitikisa Tavs wamoh-yofen!~

evropelebis, miT umetes ki

evropeli politikosebis mankieri

znis Sesaxeb yvelaze zustad ma-

inc didi britaneTis yofili pre-

mier-ministri loid jorji saub-

robda: àki, xSirad gvixdeba Se-

Tanxmeba yaCaRebTanac da kacis

mkvlelebTan?! Cveni qveynis inte-

resebidan gamomdinare, Cven kaci-

WamiebTanac gavmarTavT vaWro-

bas!~-o, da es sityvebi loid

jorjma mas Semdeg Tqva, rac

bolSevikuri ruseTis daJinebuli

moTxovniT, saqarTvelos damouki-

debeli respublika 1920 wels

èrTa ligaSi~ ar miiRo evropam!

am `verdiqtiT~ guldamZimebu-

li, samSoblosken momavali qarT-

veli diplomati zurab avaliSvi-

li ambobs: `kaciSvili Cveni pat-

roni Cvenive Tavis garda dedami-

wis zurgze aravin megulebao, ho-

da, rodesac Cvensa da dasavleTis

saerTo Rirebulebebze vsaubrobT,

gavfrTxildeT, radgan Cveni eT-

nosisaTvis `sxvisi Wiri, Robes

Cxiri~ arasodes ar yofila da

miT umetes, ar yofila maSin, ro-

ca saqme angarebas exeboda!

Cvensa da dasavleTis Rirebu-

lebebs Soris is gansxvavebacaa,

rom: `sxvisi puri, sxvisi Rvino~

arasodes gvyvarebia da araTu dam-

pyrobeli omebi ar gviwarmoebia,

aramed piriqiT, yovelTvis mtris

mogeriebaSi viyaviT mTeli Cveni

arsebobis manZilze!

rac Seexeba Cveni da evropa-

amerikeli jariskacebis erTobliv

brZolas eray-avRaneTSi, esec is-

toriuli SeuTavseblobaa, radgan

isini kacobriobis gamanadgurebe-

li `TeTri sikvdilisaTvis~ ari-

an iq da ise, rom maT arCevanis sa-

Sualebac ara aqvT.

zneobrivi gansxvave-

ba ki is gaxlavT,

rom qarTveli meo-

mari kaci, imitom

rom vaJa-fSavelas

qveyanaSia gazrdili

_ `vaJkaco, Cemgan

moklulo, RmerTma

gacxonos mkvdari-

o~, _ ase fiqrobs

da amerikeli jar-

iskaciviT, vinc mTe-

li msoflios dasa-

naxad Tavze ar aS-

ardavs Tavisi sam-

Soblos damcvel e.w. mojaxed-pa-

timrebs!

èvropa ar iyideba!~, _ araer-

Tgzis gaisma evroparlamentSi,

magram korufciaSi araerTgzis

SemCneuli maTias iorSi, nuTu sa-

qarTveloSi mxolod `demokrati-

is~ dasacavad da mis dasabandeb-

lad mogzaurobda?!

rogorc araerT arCevnebze da-

dasturda, `nac.moZraobis~ neo-

bolSevikurma Semadgenlobam, ev-

ropeli Tu amerikeli damkvirveb-

lebis xelSewyobiT, ager ukve 8

welia saakaSvilis xelisuflebas

uZlevelobis SegrZneba sruliad

logikurad gauCina, magram, imi-

tom rom evropa da sruliad da-

savleTi mxolod sakuTari inte-

resebidan gamomdinare moqmedebs,

mas patara saqarTvelos `demokra-

tiuloba~, èvrointegracia~ da

a.S. savaraudod, mxolod sakuTa-

ri interesebis gaTvaliswinebiT

ar unda sxdomeboda, radgan sa-

qarTvelo mTeli Tavisi resurse-

biT, arc navTobmompovebeli qveya-

na gaxlavT da arc msoflios ga-

mokveba SeuZlia soflis meurneo-

bis ayvavebis SemTxvevaSic ki!

aba, maS, ratom unda icavdes

ase TavgamodebiT saakaSvilis xe-

lisuflebas igive evropa da, Tu

gnebavT, amerikis SeerTebuli

Statebi? ratom unda eSinodeT

maT qarTveli òligarqebis~ da

`nacistur-faSisturi~ qarTuli

sazogadoebisa?

saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi

`moRvawe~ Cinovnikebis Sesaxeb sa-

zogadoebam bevri ram icis, magram,

neba miboZeT SegaxsenoT, rom

2003 wlis 23 noembris politi-

kuri farsi, rusuli specsamsaxu-

rebis da SeerTebuli Statebis

administraciis erToblivi gegma

gaxldaT da amdenad, evropa, ro-

ca saakaSvilis qeba-didebiT iq-

cevs Tavs, Tqven rogor fiqrobT,

romeli qveynis `Tavis mosaqonad~

iqceva ase?!

amerikidan evropaSi araTu

eleqtroenergia, aramed erTi mi-

ligrami bunebrivi airis eqspor-

ti ar xdeba da netav, romeli

qveyanaa is, romlis `keTil neba-

zecaa~ damokidebuli TiToeuli

evropelis gaTboba-ganaTeba?

aki, werda jorji loidi:

`diax, Cven kaciWamiebTanac gavmar-

TavT vaWrobas Cveni interesebidan

gamomdinareo?!~

hoda, axlac vaWrobsevropa-amerika ruseT-Tan da kbilebiT icavsruseTis rCeul mkvlelsaakaSvils, raTa ru-seTma gazis miwodebaar Seuwyvitos maT daerT mSvenier dRes evro-pis dedaqalaqebSi 1 Re-ri SeSa, uceb 6 evro arRirdes! (sxvaTa Soris,es faqti ramdenime wl-is win mTelma msofli-om naxa!).

rogorc ikveTeba, oqtombris

arCevnebi marTlac gadamwyveti iq-

neba saqarTvelosTvis da

Tuki ivaniSvilis pe-rsona, misi finansebi daguliswadili iqiTkeniqneba mimarTuli, aqci-os saqarTvelo isevqarTul saxelmwifod,maSin misi politikurimokavSire ara evropa-amerika, aramed sruli-ad saqarTvelos mosax-leoba gaxdeba da ai, ma-Sin gamoCndeba, vin visSesc...ms debatebSi!

ueWveli gamarjveba mxolod

am SemTxvevaSi SeiZleba da ara

ise, rogorc es zogierT politi-

koss hgonia. èrT sul da erT

xorc~ Serwymis SemTxvevaSi

_`mdinareni aRma daiwyeben denas~,

xolo saqarTvelo, iseve rogorc

uwin, Wkviani da qveyanaze mofiq-

rali xelmwifis droSis qveS ga-

marjvebas gamarjvebaze izeimebs

da Tavis samSoblos kvlav `ni-

kofsiidan darubandamde~ gadasWi-

mavs.

Cemi qarTuli òcne-ba~ es gaxlavT, magramaseve meocnebeba, saku-Tari TvaliT vixilomoRalate bobolebisdasjac, radgan sworedmaTi gamoisobiT aris,rom Cemi samSoblo amukuneTidan vera da vergamodis da yovel 4 we-liwadSi erTxel axal-axal teritoriebs vka-rgavT!

ai, sul es iyo!irine gogosaSvili

`faSistur-nacionaluri~ saqarTvelo da branwi

`paTologiis muzeumidan~


orbeliani

ludoviko

meToTxmetesTan

alodines da…

meTxuTmete

kacad Sevida…

cameti ludoviko

kedlidan iyureba;

cicas efereba

lui meToTxmete;

xalxs xma daukarga

mefis siyruema,

mefes xalxze ufro

kata ecodeba.

xelmwifem

sabas naubari

moismina ra,

– oh…

oh…

oh…

oho!… –

Tqva da

TiTqos kidec inana.

magram amiTi

araferi

gamovida ra

(sabas xma

rodi waagavda

knavils katisas);

rac Seitana,

iseve is gamoitana

im saxelganTqmul

versalidan

elCman qarTlisam.

– wvima ar ari!

sabas kaba

dausvela ram?!

– Tovli ar ari!

sabas Tavi

gauTeTra ram?!

– yinva ar ari!

sulxan-sabas

akankalebs ra?!

– ram daasvela?!

ram daTeTra?!

ra akankalebs?!

saqarTveloa

misTvis wvimac,

Tovlic da yinvac!..

…mze eTxoveba

albaT axla

turfa tanZias…

es sicxadea,

sulxan-sabav,

Tu fantazia?!

dedis cremlebi

yayaCos da balaxebs

awvims,

alvis CeroSi

stiris deda

Svils motacebuls,

stambolSi

Svili dedas stiris, -

hyidian ymawvils

(sWvreten jvaris win

wmida ninos –

muxlze dacemuls).

– ramdens afaseb

mag pataras? –

hkiTxa sparsulad

sabam sparsels da

mouTmenlad

eloda pasuxs.

– ui, qarTveli

megona da

sparsi yofila, -

warmosTqva balRma,

yuri mohkra ra

sabas sparsuls.

– ara, patarav,

qarTveli var,

qarTveli,

gesmis?

– ui, dedasTan

wamiyvane,

wamiyvan, Zia?.. –

sabas cremlebi

moeZala,

atirda kaci, -

Tavis balRoba

gaaxsenda,

Tavis tanZia.

viT es ymawvili –

saqarTveloc

ase mcirea,

saqarTvelosac,

viT am ymawvils,

ase hyidian;

safrangeTs vTxovoT:

gviSveliso,

– sasaciloa!

Seni vxtangi

ludovikos

fexze hkidia.

ase fiqrobda

sulxan-saba

xeljoxiani;

mxardamxar sabas

is pawia biWi

mosdevda…

– mogwyinda gana

unayofod,

elCo, yiali?!

– guls nu gaitex!

– muxa kvlavac

Seimoseba!

muxran maWavariani

s a b arogorc qarTveloba iyo saamayo

did sabWoeTSi, ase svanoba iyo sa-

amayo kavkasiis mTianeTSi da saqar-

TveloSi.

Cven gvesaxeleba winaparTa mier

ganvlili gza: mterTan-mtroba, moy-

varesTan-moyvroba, stumris Rirse-

ulad miReba-gacileba, qveynis erT-

guleba, saqarTvelos mefeTa samsa-

xurSi yofna.

svaneTis roli ganuzomlad di-

dia saqarTvelos istoriaSi. amis

Sesaxeb didi qarTveli meistorieni

uxvad gvawvdian masalebs.

samSobloc damsaxurebulad uf-

asebda qveynis am regions erTgul

samsaxurs. gansakuTrebiT bagrati-

onTa dinastia.

damoukideblobis dakargvis Sem-

deg ramdenjerme aujanydnen svanebi

mefis ruseTs. konstantine dadeSqe-

lianma gubernatori gagarinic ki

gamoasalma sicocxles mefeTa qa-

laq quTaisSi.

ar minda gavazviado, svanebi mar-

Tlac svanobdnen. arc aravisze ba-

tonobdnen, arc aravis ibatonebd-

nen.

ra xdeba dRes?

vwuxvar, magram Cveni dRevande-

li dumili, yvelafris Segueba, rac

Cvens Tavs xdeba, ukvirs yvelas, uk-

virs danarCen saqarTvelos. gaqra

miTi svanebis vaJkacobis Sesaxeb,

Cvenc dagvaSines, xmas ver viRebT,

CaviketeT, vimalebiT, viTom vera-

fers vxedavT, araferi gvesmis?

mavani enebi amboben, svanebi erT-

maneTs ar patioben wyenas, sxvagan

da sxvasTan, dRes didi veraferi

raindebi ariano.amis mTqmelni mwa-

red cdebian, marto komanis brZo-

lac sakmarisia svanTa simamacis

dasturad.

RmerTma damifaros, vinmes vaqe-

zebde SurisZiebaze, magram, roca

axalgazrda kacs mogiklaven xeli-

suflebis warmomadgenlebi da arc

mogibodiSeben, erTi aqcia mainc xom

unda gagvemarTa. sandro girgvlians

mxolod dedam, qalbatonma irine

enuqiZem upatrona da daakvda kide-

vac usamarTlobas.

svanebi vdumdiT.

gaugonari vandalizmi Caidina

xelisuflebam sofel ecerSi afra-

siZeebis ojaxis mimarT. `didma sar-

dalma~ giorgi baramiZem, visac

zurgs ori aTasi policieli umag-

rebda, mZime artileriidan griga-

liseburi cecxli gauxsna evgeni

afrasiZis saxls, mokles mama-Svili

evgeni da omex afrasiZeebi. goCa da

Smagi afrasiZeebi patimrobaSi aiy-

vanes. am operacias xelisufleba

didi xnis ganmavlobaSi warmate-

buls uwodebda. mogvianebiT, cru

informaciaze dayrdnobiT, me-19 sa-

ukunis saZvale gaTxares, Zvlebi

tomrebSi Cayares da TbilisSi Ca-

moitanes. eqspertizis Catarebis

Semdeg ki isev sofel ecerSi daab-

runes da gamgeobis SenobasTan daya-

res.

radgan svaneTi Seuvali, mkacri

tradiciebis damcvel mxared aris

miCneuli, uniWo xelisuflebas

egona am operaciiT avtoritets

aimaRlebda da mosaxleobaSi SiSs

danergavda. mogvianebiT, roca gair-

kva, rom ugzo-ukvlod dakarguli

axalgazrda levan kalaZe arakace-

bis mier sul sxva adgilas iyo

mokluli, prezidents specoperaci-

is uniWo avtorebi rom gaekicxa,

albaT, ase ar gamwvavdeboda es ur-

TierToba.

svanebi arafrad Cagvagdes, xeli-

suflebis warmomadgenlebs da par-

laments bodiSi an sinanulis sity-

va mainc dascdenodaT am faqtTan

dakavSirebiT.

qarTuli (svanuri) CveulebiT,

micvalebulTa saZvalis Sewuxeba

mkrexelobis tolfasi danaSaulia.

aseT danaSauls xandazmuloba ara

aqvs.

Zneli saTqmeli ar aris, ra Se-

fasebas miscems istoria saqarTve-

los amJamindel xelisuflebas am

qmedebebis gamo. arc isaa Zneli mi-

saxvedri, Tu ra bedi eliT im ada-

mianebs, romlebmac fexqveS gaTeles

qarTuli tradicia. sawyeni is aris,

rom am barbarosobis Camdenni bolo

xanebSi xSirad adian svaneTSi, iq

ki maT svanuri kubdariTa da xaWa-

puriT umaspinZldebian.

svanebma arc maSin amoviReT xma,

roca ori saxelovani mandilosani

mzevinar jafariZe da neli naveria-

ni, romlebic kacebis dumilis gamo,

iZulebulni gaxdnen, Tavad aRemaR-

lebinaT xma xelisuflebis Tavgasu-

lobis gamo, specnazelebma daapa-

timres.

ar avtexo gangaSi gmiri qalba-

tonis nora kvicianis mimarT Se-

TiTxnili braldebiT dapatimreba-

ze? mas sazogadoebis nawilma dam-

saxurebulad Searqva qarTveli Ja-

na darki. qalbatonma noram da mis-

ma ojaxma bevri ibrZola dalis

xeobis SesanarCuneblad da sasur-

vel Sedegebsac miaRwies. man da

misma Svilma _ baCuki arRvlianma

SeZles mSvidobiani urTierTobis

damyareba afxazur mxaresTan. aman

gaaRiziana araerovnuli xelisuf-

leba. daiwyes maTze braldebebis

SeTxzva, bolos, emzar kvicianze

ganawyenebulma iaraRis ukanono

Senaxva warudgines bralad qalba-

ton noras da daakaves im iaraRis

gamo, romelic xelisuflebam Tvi-

Ton dauriga adgilobriv mosaxle-

obas. amazea naTqvami qarTuli an-

daza: cxeni ver gaxedna da unagi-

ri daamtvriao. nora kvicianma mra-

valgzis ganacxada uari Sewyaleba-

ze da dResac patimaria. qalebma ki

gvasaxeles svanebi, mgoni jeri ma-

makacebze midga.

xelisuflebis mxridan kidev

bevri Zaladobis faqti axsovT sva-

nebs, adamianTa fizikuri Seuracx-

yofis, daCagvris da a.S.

ra gvemarTeba? erTmaneTs rom

arafers vpatiobT?

am xelisuflebam ZirZvel qar-

Tul miwas, dalis xeobas, jer sa-

xeli Seucvala, _ daarqva `zemo

afxazeTi~, Semdeg ki Cveni xalxi

ZaliT gamoiyvana xeobidan da es

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Suamdgomlobas.

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zi). amiT xalxic kmayofili iqneba

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svanebo! dumili yovelTvis ar aris oqro


xerxemals adamianis torsis

centraluri Zvlovani sistemis

mTavar RerZs uwodeben. “xerxe-

malSi gadatexvas”, (gadataniTi

formiT), mowinaaRmdegis ganad-

gurebas niSnavs. ai, xerxemlis

gamrudeba ki, rogorc gamocdi-

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mmarTveli gundis politikur

reitings ivaniSvilis gamoCeniT

aRudgeneli problemebi Seeqmna

“magar miSad aRzevebulma” kac-

mac, maia nadiraZisgan “nacona-

luri moZraobis” da Tavad “mi-

Sas xerxemalad” Seracxuli va-

no merabiSvilis persona gamo-

wia politikur asparezze. imis

gaTvaliswinebiT, rom “kuzi sa-

mareSi swordeba”, rogor api-

rebs miSas “kuzebis gasworebas”

“gaRletili vano”_ Zneli saT-

qmelia? miTufro roca “es ku-

zi” rogorc xerxemlisa, “mis

pirad kuzs”, “gamrudebuli

xerxemlis Sedegad warmoqmnil

Zvlovan wanazards” warmoad-

gens. Tumca “xerxemal vanos”

Tavisi “xerxemlis gamrudebaca

da kuzebic” ise uxvada hyofnis,

rom ukve “gapremierebuli xer-

xemali da misi kuzi” (miSa)

orive erTad, “orkuziani nacio-

naluri aqlemis” funqcias as-

ruleben. “ rvawliani mmarTve-

lobis dapirebebis didi xurji-

niT” isev mosaxleobis mosatyu-

eblad daZrwian. “saqarTvelos

mxsnelad”, “mesiis saTayvaneb-

lad da gasamefeblad” misuli

mogvebiviT, “oqros, gun-

druksa da murs” sTava-

zoben qarTvel xalxs.

“xerxemal-mesiasac” da

“qerubimad” (ufro swo-

red farSevangad) adevne-

buli misi “kuzi”(miSa)

enasa da brtyel-brtye-

lebs ar iSureben, raTa

“gamrudebuli xerxemlis

lariviT sisworeSi” da-

arwmunon qarTveli kaci!

nacmoZraobis “mola-

parake nacionalma TuTi-

yuSebmac” esao da vano

viTom “sityvis kaciao”.

hoda, (Tu saakaSvilis

tyuilebis aRar gje-

raT), radgan danapirebs es kaci

yovelTvis asrulebs, axlac

Segvisrulebso! visi idea da

mofiqrebuli iyo biZina ivaniS-

vilTan “xerxemal merabiSvi-

lis” figuris dapirispireba_

Zneli saTqmelia. naklebsavarau-

doa, rom saakaSvilis pirvelo-

bis usazRvro ambiciis pirobeb-

Si, mas sxvisi (gansakuTrebiT ki

vanos) pirveloba TavisiT moe-

survebinos! saxelis gatexvis

Semdeg, “Tavis gatexvis win”,

mas sxva gamosavali ubralod

aRar hqonda. “nacionaluri sa-

xeebidanac” viTom SedarebiT

reitinguli da “sityvis kacic”

amitom SearCies. Torem “vaniCkas

saqmeni sagmironis” mqone kacs,

ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg sxva

SemTxvevaSi romeli WkuaTmyo-

feli wamoayenebda? “gaRletili

xerxemalic” swored ivaniSvils

rom daupirispires, amaze “gaR-

letili xerxemalisgan” ivaniS-

vilis winaarCevno programis

sityva-sityviT dapirebebis game-

orebac miuTiTebs. Tavis “mWevr-

metyvelur gamosvlebSic” vano-

ze upiratesobis warmosaCenad

Tavad miSasac xom araerTxel

uRadavia “gaRletil-

ze”? arc merabiSvilis

bolo saparlamento

gamosvla: “policias

nacionalur moZraoba-

ze maRali reitingi aq-

vso” _ iqneboda amis

mizezi. unda vivarau-

doT, rom merabiSvilis

“gapremier-ministre-

biT” saakaSvilma masze

“maRali reitingis

gaRletili konkuren-

ti miaCoCa”, riTac da-

pirebebisa da tyuile-

bis Tqmis “nacionale-

bis winasaarCevno upi-

ratesobac” axla mera-

biSvils “SeaCeCa xel-

Si”. Tu “xerxemals gamouva”

xom kargi, Tu ara da es dapi-

rebebi “gamrudebuli xerxemlis

kuzis tyuilebis xurjins” xom

aRar miemateba? amitom “Zleva-

mosili gaRletilic”, romelic

miSasgan gansxvavebiT arcTu su-

lelia, dgas axla da biZina iva-

niSvilis winasaarCevno progamis

“suflireba-dublirebiT” mosax-

leobisTvis Tavis mowonebas

eweva. daaxloebiT, “ori marine,

ori giorgis asuli, ori fera-

Zis msagvsad”. viciT, miSasi rom

aRar gjeraT, magram oRond iva-

niSvils nu miscemT xmas da aT-

jer, asjer mets mogcemT “gaR-

letili xerxemalio”. Cven ki,

visac nacionalebis winasaarCev-

no tyuilebi araerTxel mogvis-

menia, gogebaSvilis “matyuara

vanos ambavi” gvaxsendeba: “mge-

li, mgelio”, vin icis, meramde-

ned rom moatyua Tanasoflele-

bi. bolos ki, mgeli marTla

rom movida- aRaravin daujera.

imasac bevri SeamCnevda, ivaniS-

vilis gamoCenis Semdeg, (gamou-

vali mdgomareobis gamo), saa-

kaSvili ukve “wyvil-wyvilad

rom afrens mwyerebs”. imasac

dainaxavdiT, rom Sexvedrebsac,

am bolo dros, sul ufro xSi-

rad studentebTan, sabavSvo ba-

Ris bavSvebTan da axla ukve

samSobiaroebSi _ CvilebTanac

rom marTavs. zrdasruli da

WkuaTmyofeli adamianebis Sex-

vedrebze moyvanac, “nacionalur

moZraobas” ivaniSvilis gamoCe-

nis Semdeg sul ufro da ufro

uZneldeba. aRarc “yviTeli av-

tobusebiT bunebis wiaRSi gase-

irneba” Wris da Cans, aRarc mu-

qarebi.

aseTma politikurma svlam

bevri Caagdo sagonebelSi. “vano

xalxis mxares dadga da miSam

amitom CaaCoCao” _ ifiqra zog-

ma. zogma saakaSvilisgan axal

mTavrobaSi darCenis, garantiisa

da Tavis gadarCenis gzebis Zie-

ba dainaxa. zogma kidev (axalai-

as sisastikisa da maniakaluri

midrekilebebis mcodnem) _ ar-

Cevnebis gayalbebisas xalxis

dasarbevad misi gamoyenebis sur-

vili. asea Tu ise, dRes biZina

ivaniSvilis fexdafex, region-

region da sofel-sofel “gam-

rudebuli xerxemali vaniCka”

da misi “kuzi” miSa aqtiur wi-

naasarCevno kampanias atareben

da yvelas imaSi arwmuneben, rom

“Zlevamosili vano Tavisi ku-

zis” “lariviT swori”, “sarosa

msgavsi” da zneobrivi principe-

biT “TovliviT spetaki” premi-

er-ministria. is ki, rac “xerxe-

malma” Tavisi Zlevamosilebis

ganmavlobaSi qarTveli xalxis

Tavze moawia, mxolod

Cveni “masobrivi sizmri-

sa da molandebis” Sede-

gia?! “wiklaur-Tavxeli-

Zeebis piriT molaparake

feisbuqelebisganac” aR-

iniSna, rom egec Tqven:

“aki ambobdiT, “gaRle-

tilma” laparaki ar

iciso? vanos ki Turme

“laparakic scodnia” da

arc iseTi ena blua”,

rogoric gvegona?! “gaR-

letilis” metyvelebaSi

gancdili transforma-

ciac” imaSi gamoixata,

rom Tu adre “pirSi mo-

xarSuli kartofiliT saubrob-

da” da arc uazrobebis Tqmas ak-

lebda, axla (Cans logopedebs

kargad umuSaviaT) da Sedaree-

biT danawevrebulad da gasage-

bad metyvelebs. “Zlevamosil va-

niCkad”, karg organizatorad da

“yuradRebian Sefad”

cnobili “didi gaRle-

tilic” ukve farTo ma-

sebis winac Cndeba da

aRarc “fardis ukan”

imaleba. “feradi revo-

luciebiT” mosuli

premierebis bedic “va-

niCkas” presis furcle-

bidan araerTxel Seax-

senes. zoran jinjiCisa

(iugoslaviis premier-

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magaliTebis (pirvelo-

bisadmi saakaSvilis pa-

Tologiuri miswrafe-

bis gaTvaliswinebiT), fonze,

albaT, arc yofil Zlevamosil-

sa da “gaRletils” uweria di-

di dro. Tu, rasakvirvelia, “va-

niCka” Tavad aqeT ar apirebs mi-

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rac Seexeba vanos “sityvis

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merabiSvilma girgvlian_enuqiZe-

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xeleb aweul adamianebTan usas-

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magaliTze daamt-

kica! es xom isev

is “xuWuWa da pa-

tara” vanoa, ro-

melmac xan erT,

xan meore uwyebaSi

amdenxniani bato-

nobiT imdeni qone-

ba daagrova “sare-

zervo mefed” mu-

Saobisas, rom

“oligarqobaSi”

biZina ivaniSvils

ki ara, SesaZloa

bil geiTsac ar Ca-

mouvardeba? es

swored is vano

araa, vinc jer ki-

dev “moqalaqeTa

kavSiris” komite-

tis Tavmjdomare-

obisas, germanele-

bisgan reestris

dakompleqtebisT-

vis gadmoricxuli milionebiT

qarTuli teritoriebis yoveli

kuTxe-kunWuli aRwera da yve-

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riuli miwebis gayidva-gasxvise-

bisTvis nacionalebs winaswari

baza xelSi rom sWerodaT? es

vano ar iyo, vinc (gundis Sig-

niT CaSvebis ambavSi, komitetis

Tavmjdomareobisas), rusul

presaSi Tavisi gundis lideris

sawinaaRmdego gancxadebebi gaa-

keTa? aseT saqciels ki “sityvis

kacebi da kai kacebi” ar sCadian.

es is “sityvis kaci” araa,

viszec mTeli saqarTvelo “aRS-

foTebuli CurCulebda” imas,

rom biZaSvilis gaupatiurebis

mcdelobis gamo, jer kidev mar-

Tla “gaRletili xerxemali”

Tanasoflelebma sofel udedan

gamoaZeves da mamida ifarebda?

is “gaRletili vano” ar aris,

romlis xelSewyobisa da SeTan-

xmebis gareSec “meore gaRleti-

li”_ oqruaSvili Tavisi uzar-

mazari qonebisa da milionebis

saqarTvelodan gatanas ver SeZ-

lebda? is “xerxemali vano” ar

aris, romelic amdeni weli “ver

xedavda” im yvelafers, raSic

axla mxolod da mxolod iva-

niSvilis sapirwoned miliardo-

biT investiciebis Cadebas gvpir-

deba? es miliardebic qarTveli

xalxis gaRletiT ar iSovnes

man da misma “yavlgasulma mTa-

varsardalma”? an iqneb axla,

Cvenganve waglejili fulis

Cvenze daxarjvisTvis ar iTxovs

Cvengan “xerxemali vano da misi

kuzi” saarCevno xmebs? an imis

Tu gjeraT vinmes, rom “sityvis

kacma”, vinc qarTuli sasoflo-

sameurneo, sasaZovre miwebisa da

naTesebis ucxoelebze gasxvise-

baSi “fasdaudebeli saqme gauke-

Ta nacionalebs”_ axla “miweb-

gayidul sofelsa da glexs” me-

urneobas auyvavebs? ra Tqma un-

da, wiklaurs, oCiaurs, Tavxe-

liZes, CorgoleiSvils, nodias

da “nacionalebis mematiane mas-

xaras” amis “sjeraT”. sjeraT,

radgan qarTuli saxelmwifoeb-

rioba maT arc arasdros adar-

debdaT da sakuTari “gaRleti-

li jibeebis amovsebaze” fiq-

robdnen yovelTvis. Tumca qar-

Tvel xalsa da maT, vinc “naci-

onalebis” yalb da flid moZra-

obaSi qarTveli xalxis mosaS-

Tobad mosuli manqurTebi imTa-

viTve amoicno, arc manamade sje-

roda maTi da arc axla.

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ai, Zmao, xalxi!

aba, miTxariT _azerbaijanuli da so-mxuri enebi, regiona-lur enebad rom gvi-feSqaSes `saakaSvileb-

ma~_ vinmes protesti,an parlamentSi, andaquCaSi, gamouxatavs, aninglisuri ena `meoremSobliuris enis~ as-peqtSi rom Segvtenes _tyuilia?

aba, erTi wuTiT warmoidgi-

neT ukrainis `radas~, religia-

TaSorisi Tanasworobis kanoni

mieRo da marTlmadidebluri ki-

evisaTvis aqeT eqnia TiTi _ to-

lerantulebi iyaviT, ra moxde-

boda?

anda, igive ruseT-Sic rom mieRoT es ka-noni, Camomjdariyoaleqsi II savarZelSi,gverdiT moesva rusu-li `sodi~, `kudi~ dadanarCenebi, SeSinebo-da evrokavSiris Tusxva saxelmwifoebismuqaris _ marTlmadi-debluri ruseTi ariquxebda?!

iquxebda ki ara, qvasqvaze ar datovebda daTavisi qveynis religi-as kbilebiT daicavda!

ai, ukrainelebi ki ukve kbi-

lebiT icaven sakuTar enas da,

rogorc ukve mogaxseneT, kievi

axali revoluciis molodiniT

cxovrobs, ukve imitom, rom

maTTvis principulad mniSvne-

lovania ena, religia da sakuTa-

ri qveyana, anu mamuli!

dRevandeli prezidenti

ianukoviCi `radas~ axal vadam-

del arCevnebze alaparakda, mag-

ram ukraineli xalxi araTu axa-

li parlamentis arCevnebs, jer,

upirvelesad, ianukoviCis impiC-

ments iTxovs, xolo Semdeg va-

damdel saprezidento arCevnebs!

didi albaTobiT _ ukraine-

li xalxi araTu `regionaluri

rusuli enis~ winaaRmdeg miaR-

wevs sawadels, aramed aseve di-

di albaTobiT, Tavisi qveynis

pirvel pirsac male gadaayenebs

da airCevs imas, visTvisac ukra-

ina, ukraineli xalxi da ukrai-

nuli ena iqneba umTavresi!

Cven? _ Cven ar unda vimitin-

goT!

Cven? _ Cven ar unda Camov-

yaroT xidan foTlebi!

Cven? _ Cven ar SeiZleba ra-

me vukarnaxoT `wminda sinods~!

Cven? _ Cven saqarTvelos

parlamentis ukanono dadgeni-

lebebs mSvidad unda SevxvdeT!

Cven? _ Cven ar SeiZleba mo-

viTxovoT gayalbebuli arCevne-

bis SedegTa anulireba!

Cven? _ Cven ar `gvekadreba~

araTu vadamdeli arCevnebis

moTxovna, aramed saakas impiCmen-

tic ki!

Cven? _ Cven saerTod yvela-

feri agvikrZales da amitomac

gvkadreben aseve yvelafers jer

`Sinauri~ inaurebi, xolo Sem-

deg ìnaurebis~ Sinaurebi!

nu vimitingebT, nu aRvSfoT-

debiT da nurc gavcofdebiT, ba-

tono!

da, amiT rasac miviRebT

_àger~ Tqven da àger~ Cven!

irine gogosaSviliP.S. aRniSnuli mosazreba

ukve dawerili mqonda, roca

`wminda sinodis~ istoriuli

`gadawyvetilebis~ Sesaxeb Se-

vityve. kerZod is, rom sasuli-

ero pirebs masobrivi TavSeyris,

anu mitingebsa da demonstraci-

ebze misvla ekrZalebaT!

marTlac `saSuri~ gadawyve-

tilebaa `mamebo~ verafers ity-

vi! magram patriarq SiolaSvils

minda vkiTxo: _ amis Semdeg arc

xelisuflebis Tavyrilobebze

ivliT Tqven da Tqveni `wminda

sinodi~, Tu es gadawyvetileba

mxolod xelisuflebis moZule-

Ta Tavyrilobebze vrceldeba?

da erTic _ netav, xalxis

gverdiT rodis ideqiT, ro?

eris da beris erTad dgomis

problema rom aris, xatebi sa-

qarTveloSi amitomac tirian!

Tqven ki saakas Svilis wya-

lobiT, mudam mxiarul xasiaTze

brZandebiT!

nu idardebT, me ra menaRv-

leba? magram, RmerTis geSino-

deT, RmerTis! imitom, rom eSma-

kis msaxuris sasargeblod miRe-

buli iqauri gadawyvetileba iq-

neba is ganaCeni, romelic aq, mi-

waze, Cvens mier ki ara, aramed

ìq~, zeviT iqneba miRebuli da

Semdeg verc giorgi-eeduard Se-

vardnaZe giSveliT da verc mi-

Sa-ggriSa saakas Svili, gamigeT?

exla, modiT da damwyevleT!

Tumca, ra?

Tqvens arc wyevlas aqvs Za-

la da arc locvas, radgan sa-

qarTvelo am ubedurebidan gamo-

dis ki ara, piriqiT ukunSi mie-

qaneba!

xolo, Tuki sabolood ar

gavnadgurdiT _ es Tqveni ki

ara, WeSmaritad morwmune Savo-

sani berebis sadReRamiso loc-

vebis damsaxurebaa, romlebsac

aTonze da aq, mitovebul sena-

kebSi aRavlenen uflisa da

RvTismSoblis sadideblad!

ukraina quxs,saqarTvelo dums...

vano merabiSvilis mier

gamoqveynebuli priori-

tetebi aRiarebaa imisa,

rom dRevandeli mTav-

roba 8 wlis ganmavlobaSi ang-

revda qveyanas.

ras unda niSnavdes me-

rabiSvilis gapremiere-

ba? vanos politikuri

ambiciebis gazrdas Tu

saakaSvilis SiSs? merabiSvilis

mxridan saakaSvilisTvis arasa-

surveli politikuri svlebis ga-

keTebis SemTxvevaSi, faqtiurad

miSa kargavda policiaze kont-

rols da Zalian martivad das-

ruldeboda nacionaluri moZrao-

bis parpaSi. amave dros, Zneli

warmosadgenia, ras izamen poli-

cielebi, romlebic vanoze locu-

loben da miSas dedas agineben.

miSam amerikelebis rCe-

va xelisuflebis gada-

barebasTan dakavSirebiT

gaiTvaliswina da xeli-

sufleba biZina ivaniSvilis nacv-

lad vano merabiSvils gadaabara...

erTi irakli oqruaS-

vilma gaitana qarTuli

Rvino msoflio bazarze

da meore vano merabiS-

vili dascems beWebze umuSevro-

bas.

miuxedavad aTasi karu-

selisa, nacmos minist-

rebi erTmaneTSi saerTo

enas yovelTvis moZebni-

an, samegobroc saerTo hyavT da

interesebic. mTavaria, xelisuf-

leba SeinarCunon, xolo amisTvis

yvela miSaSkini yvelaferzea wam-

svleli.

Zalian susti var maTe-

matikaSi da amixseniT,

Tu RmerTi gwamT: Tu

mosaxloebis erTi mexu-

Tedi aris ukiduresad gaWirvebu-

li da iricxeba siRaribis zRvars

qvemoTa siebSi, umuSevroba mxo-

lod 15 procenti rogoraa, ro-

gorc axla televizoridan meub-

neba eqsperti jafariZe?

xooo, aq adre viRaca

mimtkicebda, ar izams

magas nikao.....a, batono

Tu ar aris mzad..... ax-

la merab sefaSvils Casvamen sia-

Si da nika daukravs, merabi imRe-

rebs:d:d:;d da sofelic aSende-

ba:d:d:d mere opozicidan zogi

iWidavebs, zogi icekvebs da meti

ki araferi unda soflis mSebe-

lobas:d:d:d kanonebsac virtua-

lurad miiReben da rogorc vanom

Tqva, sxdomebis Catareba aRar iq-

neba saWirooo

amerikeli pedagogebis

feisbuqSi garyvnili

fotoebi Tu ar aris

danaSauli, qarTveli

pedagogebis politikurad gansx-

vavebuli azri ratom isjeba?!

dRes, am xelisuflebis

moSorebisTvis, goneba,

niWi da lavirebaa saWi-

ro. vadrovoT am kacs.

araa imis Citi, ver gaarkvios, vin

vinaa. dRemde polixronios Zaxi-

liT davyavdiT opozicias. xan sta-

dionze, xan ipodromze. parlament-

Tan a. S. Zalian minda moveswro ka-

cebs xelisuflebaSi! dalagebul

qveyanas! televizias politikis ga-

reSe da qalebs rusTavelze!

xalxis azriT


gardatexis asakSi organizm-

Si mimdinare rTuli anatomiur-

funqciuri cvlilebebi adekva-

turad mozardis fsiqo-emociur

sferozec aisaxeba. am asakSi

isini yvelaze mwvaved ganicdian,

roca sakuTari miswrafebebi

harmoniulad ver erwymis rea-

lobas. dauZleveli winaaRmde-

gobebi maTSi gardatexis asakis

nevrozis winapirobas qmnis.

fsiqoemociuri Zvrebi gansakuT-

rebuli simwvaviT mimdinareobs

dediserTa bavSvebSi, romlebic

aRmoaCenen, rom ojaxSi erTa-

derTni da ganumeorebelni mego-

barTa Soris aseTive adgils

ver imkvidreben.

gardatexis asakSi

gvitevs asTeniuri

sindromi

yvelaze xSirad es zogadi

sisuste, anu asTeniuri sindro-

mia, romelic gonebrivi da fi-

zikuri Sromisas momatebul

daRlilobaSi, fizikuri da

fsiqiuri diskomfortis mudmiv

SegrZnebaSi gamoixateba.

mozardebs sruliad umize-

zod xSirad da swrafad ecvle-

baT guneba, ase vTqvaT, mtirala

ganwyobileba ueflebaT, uqveiT-

debaT Sromis unari da yu-

radRebis koncentracia. zogi

mexsierebis daqveiTebas uCivis;

Sesabamisad, klebulobs skola-

Si akademiuri moswrebis done,

rac TviTdamkvidrebis mosurne

mozards kidev ufro urTulebs

mdgomareobas, masSi badebs pesi-

mizmis, arasrulfasovnebis Seg-

rZnebas, urTulebs Tanatoleb-

Tan da axloblebTan urTierTo-

bebs.

Tavis tkivili

bevri mozardi uCivis Tavis

tkivils, romelic mudmiv xasi-

aTs atarebs da garemozea damo-

kidebuli. igi gansxvavebuli

lokalizaciisaa: Subli, warbi,

kefa, mTlianad Tavi. tkivili

xasiaTis mixedviT wneviTi, mo-

pulsire da mqaCavia.

momatebuli

mgrZnobeloba garemo

gamRizianeblebisadmi

mozardebi Znelad itanen

xmaurs, skolis zari usiamovno

SegrZnebebs iwvevs, zedmet

mgrZnobelobas amJRavneben si-

naTlis, sunebis, Sexebisadmi. am

faqtorTa gavleniT ara marto

Tavis tkivili uZlierdebaT,

aramed ofliandebian da sisxl-

ZarRvovani reaqciebi uviTarde-

baT.

Zilis darRveva

Zilis dro mokldeba da igi

mSfoTvare xdeba. erTni swra-

fad iZineben, magram maleve iR-

viZeben da uZiloba awuxebT, me-

oreni ki, piriqiT, Znelad iZi-

neben da gamouZineblebi dgebian.

dRis pirvel naxevarSi moTen-

Tilebi arian da mxolod meore

naxevarSi axerxeben mobilize-

bas. bevri maTgani ZilSi lapa-

rakobs, Tumca gamoRviZebis Sem-

deg ar axsovT, raze saubrobd-

nen.

xSiria ZilSi siaruli, zo-

gi maTgani dgeba, magidaze niv-

Tebs alagebs, CanTaSi awyobs,

rTul moZraobebs asrulebs,

zogierTs aReniSneba RamiT Sar-

dis Seukavebloba,

rac gansakuTrebiT

amZimebs isedac arc-

Tu saxarbieli md-

gomareobas.

gul-

sixlZarRovani

moSlilobani

gardatexis asak-

Si xSiria gulis

areSi tkivili, arc-

Tu iSviaTad, aRmo-

cenebuli tkivili

marTlac emTxveva

funqciur cvlile-

bebs gulis areSi _

saymawvlo ariTmias, xSirdeba

majiscema, gulSi imatebs funq-

ciuri xmauri, arteriuli wne-

va xSirad icvleba... yovelive

es iwvevs gangaSis SegrZnebas da

qmnis imis niadags, rom mozards

sikvdilis an sxva saxis fobie-

bi uCndeba. am dros mSoblebi

gansakuTrebiT frTxilad unda

iyvnen da mozardis Tandaswre-

biT kategoriulad ar isaubron

gulis daavadebebze da am mize-

ziT gamowveul sikvdilze.

saWmlis momnelebel

sistemaSi aRmocenebuli

cvlilebebi

zogjer Tavs iCens saWmlis

momnelebeli traqtis sekreto-

ruli da motoruli funqciis

darRvevebi, rac vlindeba muc-

lis areSi tkiviliT, madis daq-

veiTebiT, defekaciis darRveviT.

Tavs iCens gardatexis asakis

anoreqsia, romelic gansakuT-

rebiT xSiria gogonebSi, isini

Tavs msuqan da arasrulfasovan

adamianebad miiCneven da absolu-

turad uars amboben sakvebze.

garkveuli periodis Semdeg Wa-

ma saerTod aRar SeuZliaT, mi-

uxedavad imisa, rom ukve Wamis

survili aqvT _ aseTebs speci-

aluri mkurnaloba esaWiroebaT.

nevrozis dros xelsayreli

garemos SeqmniT mozardebi yo-

velgvari Carevis gareSe gamo-

dian mdgomareobidan, Tumca

gardatexis asakis dasrulebis

Semdeg (18-20 weli), Tu igive

cvlilebebi SenarCundeba, auci-

lebelia kvalificiuri samedi-

cino Careva.

isteria da

akviatebuli azrebi

zogjer, yuradRebis miqce-

vis mizniT, mozardebSi xSiria

isteriuli Setevebi: yvirian

ganrisxebulni, ixeven tanze

tansacmels, iglejen Tmas, amt-

vreven WurWels, ikbenen xelebs,

ifurTxebian, Tavs esxmian sru-

liad udanaSauloebs. Setevis

xangrZlivoba damokidebulia ma-

yurebelTa raodenobasa da maT

reaqciaze _ rac meti mayurebe-

lia da TanagrZnobas grZnobs

maTi mxridan, miT xangrZlivia

Seteva, romlis Semdegac aRar

iZineben, iwyeben Civilsa da

moTqma-godebas.

Setevisas zogierTi ritmu-

lad ganmeorebiT moZraobebs as-

rulebs, isteriuli mozarde-

bisTvis damaxasiaTebelia damb-

lebi, kontraqturebi, magali-

Tad, maT SeuZliaT sawolSi fe-

xebis moZraoba, magram ver dge-

bian da ver dadian. uCndebaT ve-

getatiuri moSlilobani _

bronqospazmi, romlis drosac

ar SeuZliaT saubari, ylapva,

aqvT krunCxviTi xvela, isteri-

uli Rebineba, haeris ukmariso-

ba, asTmuri Setevebi, sxeulis

temperaturis mateba da sxva.

irRveva metyveleba _ xSi-

ria enis isteriuli borZiki,

romelic gansxvavdeba sxva

formebisgan, isteri-

uli mutizmi _

metyvelebis sruli

uqonloba an nawi-

lobrivi, mozardi

munjdeba an SerCevi-

Tad saubrobs.

xSiria akviate-

buli azrebiT ga-

mowveuli probleme-

bic, rodesac mozar-

di aiCemebs ararea-

lur da ausrule-

bel survils da mi-

si Seusrulebloba

masSi ukve did fsi-

qo-emociur gancdas

iwvevs.

gardatexis asa-

kis nevrozi xSirad

araswori aRzrdis

Sedegia, misi masti-

muleblebi zogjer

Tavad mozrdilebi ki ara, mSob-

lebi, maswavleblebi, ojaxis

sxva wevrebi arian, romlebic

ugulebelyofen mozardis Tavi-

seburebebs da maT angariSs ar

uweven. Seqmnil viTarebaSi er-

TaderTi gamosavali swored am

asakis fsiqo-fiziologiur Ta-

viseburebaTa codna da maTi

gaTvaliswinebaa.

kataraqta _ Tvalis brolis

sruli an nawilobrivi SemRvre-

va, misi gamWvirvalobis dakarg-

vaa. kataraqtisas Tvalis bro-

li monacrisfro, monacrisfro-

TeTri an rZisferi xdeba.

ramdenime wlis winaT igi

ZiriTadad xandazmulTa paTo-

logiad miaCndaT; Tumca, samwu-

xarod, ofTalmologiuri praq-

tika gviCvenebs, rom es ase aRar

aris _ dRes sul ufro xSiria

daavadebis SemTxvevebi 35-40

wlis adamianebSi.

ra iwvevs brolis

SemRvrevas

arsebobs daavadebis Tanda-

yolili da SeZenili, progresi-

rebadi da araprogresirebadi

formebi.

Tandayolili kataraqta Cve-

ulebriv ar progresirebs.

mizezis mixedviT, SeZenili

kataraqtis formebi ramdenime

jgufad iyofa:

_ asakobrivi _ moxucebul-

Ta kataraqta.

_ travmuli _ gamowveuli

rogorc kontuziiT, ise uSua-

lod Tvalis kaklis dazianebiT;

_ garTulebuli kataraqte-

bi _ Tvalis sisxlZarRvovani

garsis anTebis, glaukomis, ba-

duras pigmenturi gadagvarebisa

da Tvalis zogierTi daavadebis

Sedegad ganviTarebuli formebi.

_ sxivuri kataraqtebi sxi-

vuri energiiT brolis daziane-

bis Sedegia _ infrawiTeli,

rentgenisa da radiaciuli ga-

mosxivebis, es ZiriTadad pro-

fesiuli daavadebaa.

_ toqsikuri _ am jgufs mi-

ekuTvneba wamlismieri kataraq-

ta, romelicASesaZlebelia Ca-

moyalibdes kortikosteroide-

bis, antimalariuli preparate-

bis an sxva medikamentTa xangr-

Zlivad miRebis Semdgom.

_ organizmis

zogadi daavadebe-

biT gamowveuli

kataraqta, rome-

lic viTardeba

Saqriani diabe-

tis, hipoTireo-

zis (viTardeba

farisebri jirkv-

lis hormonebis

deficitis Sede-

gad), Tirkmlis

daavadebebisa da

nivTierebaTa cv-

lis zogierTi

darRvevis fonze.

_ daavadebas

mniSvnelovanwi-

lad gansazRvravs

memkvidruli niSan-Tvisebebic.

rogor amovicnoT

daavadeba

pacientebs Cveulebriv awu-

xebT mxedvelobis daqveiTeba,

rac damokidebulia brolis

SemRvrevis xarisxze, intensivo-

basa da lokalizaciaze.

brolis periferiaze SemRv-

revisas mxedveloba TiTqmis ar

ziandeba, Tumca rodesac igi

centrSia lokalizebuli, Zli-

er azianebs mxedvelobas, sru-

li SemRvrevisas ki maT mxolod

sinaTlis sibnelisgan garCevis

unariRa aqvT.

Tu pacienti ver aRiqvams

sinaTles da ar SeuZlia sinaT-

lis wyaros mimarTulebis miTi-

Teba, savaraudod, mas Tvalis

sxva dazianebebic aqvs: glauko-

ma, baduris Camofrcqvna da

sxva. am SemTxvevaSi kataraqtis

mkurnaloba yovelTvis mxedve-

lobis aRdgeniT ar mTavrdeba.

rogor moviqceT

kataraqtis sawyis stadiaze

mizanSewonilia konservatiuli

mkurnaloba, radgan zogierTi

formisas SesaZloa brolis

SemRvreva gaiwovos.

antikataraqtuli prepara-

tebi Cveulebriv Tvalis wveTe-

bia, romlebsac pacientebi dRe-

Si 3-5-jer iwveTeben TvalSi.

maTi didi nawili Seicavs

vitaminebis kompleqss, biogenur

stimulatorebsa da araorga-

nul marilebs.

im SemTxvevaSi ki, rodesac

daavadeba garTulebulia da me-

dikamentur mkurnalobas sasur-

veli Sedegi ar moaqvs, daxmare-

bis erTaderT efeqtian saSua-

lebad mkurnalobis qirurgiu-

li meTodi rCeba.

uwin SemRvreuli brolis

eqstraqciamde saWiro iyo da-

lodebodnen kataraqtis srul

momwifebas; dRes Tanamedrove

meTodebi operaciis nebismier

stadiaze Catarebis saSualebas

iZleva.

prognozisTvis mniSvnelova-

nia, Tu rogoria badurisa da

mxedvelobis nervis funqciuri

unari.

kataraqtis operacia erT-

erTi yvelaze xSiri Tvalis

operaciaa, mis Semdgom marTe-

bulia ramdenime rekomendaciis

gaTvaliswineba: saWiroa fizi-

kuri datvirTvebis Semcireba,

simZimeebis awevisgan Tavis Seka-

veba.

naoperaciebma adamianebma

mzis Zlieri gamosxivebisa da

sinaTlis pirobebSi damcavi

saTvaleebi unda ataron.

kiTxva da televizoris yu-

reba rekomendebulia mxolod

dRis saaTebSi, sibneleSi amgva-

ri moqmedebebi ikrZaleba.

operaciaTa 90-95 procenti

warmatebiT sruldeba. mis Semd-

gom aRdgeba mxedveloba da ada-

miani aqtiur cxovrebas ubrun-

deba.

gverdi moamzada

zviad RonRaZe

gardatexis aasakis nnevrozi

kataraqta _ Tvalis CCins ssafrTxe eemuqreba


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Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamarTlom mxari da-

uWira saxelmwifo auditis mimarTvas da kom-

pania `burji~ opozicioneri miliarderis,

biZina ivaniSvilis koalicia `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ momsaxurebisTvis 8 milion 800 aTasi

lariT (5,2 milioni dolari) daajarima. da-

yadebulia `burjis~ angariSebi da qoneba.

opoziciaSic da `burjSic~ politikur

devnaze laparakoben, agreTve imis Sesaxebac,

rom saxelmwifo auditma kompaniisgan misTvis

gadacemuli dokumentebi gaayalba. laparakia

saremonto samuSaoebze, romlebic ararsebul

ofisebs CautardaT.

saxelmwifom kompania daadanaSaula imaSic,

rom opozicias avtotransporti Semcirebul

fasad SesTavaza.

odnav adre, biZina ivaniSvilma msgavsi

braldebis gamo uari ganacxada gadaexada upreceden-

to jarima _ 45 milioni dolari, ris Semdegac daa-

yadaRes da auqcionze gasayidad gaitanes misi aqciebi

`qarTu jgufSi~, `bank qarTusa~ da `progresbankSi~.

garda amisa, saxelmwifom daiwyo im partie-

bis finansuri devna, romlebic koalicia `qar-

Tul ocnebaSi~ Sedian.

SegaxsenebT: gasul kviras, orSabaTs, saqarT-

velos xelisuflebam auqcionze gasayidad gaita-

na opozicioneri miliarderis biZina ivaniSvilis

26 ivniss dayadaRebuli aqciebi _ `qarTu jguf-

Si~ (100 procenti) da `progresbankSi~ (21,7

procenti). dayadaReba mas Semdeg gadawyda, rac

opoziciis liderma uari Tqva gadaexada 45 mi-

lioni dolari saparlamento saarCevno kampaniis

dros daSvebuli darRvevebisTvis _ Tanamgzavru-

li antenebis SeRavaTian fasad damontaJebiT da

avtotransportiT sargeblobisas agreTve SeRa-

vaTiani pirobebiT ivaniSvili TiTqosda amomrCev-

lis mosyidvas cdilobda.

vestikavkasa.ru

ruseTi asads samxedro daxmarebas

uwyvets da reJims bedis anabarad tovebs

ruseTis xelisuflebis maRalCi-

nosnis cnobiT, ruseTi sirias aRar

gaugzavnis samxedro mowyobilobebsa

da gamanadgureblebs manamde, vidre

qveyanaSi viTareba normalur kala-

potSi ar Cadgeba, wers The Indepe-ndent. gamocema aRniSnavs, rom es na-biji baSar asadis reJimze wnexs

aamaRlebs.

`dResdReobiT, es cnoba aris yve-

laze Zlieri signali Zveli mokavSi-

ris mimarT ruseTis poziciis gasam-

kacreblad. igi Zlier dartymas miaye-

nebs siriis prezidents, romelsac am

dReebSi kofi anani Sexvda da krizi-

sidan TavdaRwevis politikur inicia-

tivebze imsjeles~, _ aRniSnavs poli-

tologi lavdi morisi.

ruseTi iaraRis erT-erTi umsxvi-

lesi mimwodebelia siriisTvis da am

samxedro SeiaraRebis miuwodeblobam

SesaZloa, gawyvitos 4-miliarddola-

riani moqmedi kontraqti, wers gamo-

cemis korespondenti. es nabiji SeaCe-

rebs siriaSi ??-130-is tipis oTxi ga-

manadgureblis gagzavnas, romelTa Se-

saxebac SeTanxmeba SarSan, wlis miwu-

ruls daido.

amis Sesaxeb ruseTis samxedro

uwyebis erT-erTma maRalCinosanma sa-

erTaSoriso aviakosmosuri salonis

`farnboro-2012~-is mimdinareobisas

ganacxada da dasZina _ vidre siriaSi

mdgomareoba ar dastabilurdeba,

iaraRis miwodeba gamoricxulia.

arsebobs sxva niSnebic imisa, rom

moskovi asadis reJimisgan daSoriSo-

rebas apirebs: ruseTis sagareo saqme-

Ta ministrma sergei lavrovma moskov-

Si molaparakebebi gamarTa siriis

opoziciis lider miSel kilosTan da

sxva opoziciuri organizaciebis war-

momadgenlebTan. am Sexvedraze kofi

ananis gegmis ganxorcielebaze imsje-

les.

The Independent

sloveniaSi gamoica iosip broz ti-

tos axali biografia, romlis avtoric

istorikosi ioJe pirJevecia. misi az-

riT, insulti, romelsac stalinis gar-

dacvaleba mohyva, gamoiwvia iugoslavie-

li lideris mier daqiravebulma

mkvlelma. The Daily Beast beWdavs recen-

zias wignze, romelic jerjerobiT mxo-

lod sloveniur enazea dabeWdili da

savaraudod mraval enaze iTargmneba. am

gamocemas safuZvlad udevs im arqivebis

dokumentebi, romlebic yofili iugos-

laviis teritoriazea ganTavsebuli.

1953 wlis 28 Tebervals, RamiT sta-

linma agarakze miiwvia Tavisi axloble-

bi. Sexvedram dilamde gastana. stumre-

bi wavidnen (SemdgomSi yvela erTxmad

aRniSnavda, rom belads cudad yofnisa

araferi etyoboda), stalinma ki, vidre

daiZinebda, mcvelebi daiTxova da ubrZa-

na, ar gaeRviZebinaT. mis oTxSi Suqi sa-

Ramos 18:30 saaTze ainTo, magram dacvam

Ramis 10 saaTamde Sesvla ver gabeda.

stalini iwva iatakze da misive saaTis

gatexili ciferblatiT Tu vimsjelebT,

igi swored 18:30 saaTze daeca.

eqimebi maSinve ar gamouZaxebiaT. is-

torikosTa umravlesoba erTsulovania

_ es gangeb gaaWianures. roca eqimebi,

bolos da bolos, gamoCndnen, saerTo

insultis diagnozi dasves. stalini pa-

ralizebuli iyo da misi agonia ramde-

nime dRes gagrZelda, 5 marts ki garda-

icvala.

cnobilia, rom stalinis brZanebiT

titos 22-jer daesxnen Tavs, maT Soris

`ZvirfaseulobisTvis gankuTvnili zar-

daxSiTac, romlis gaxsnisas nervul-pa-

ralitikuri gazi gamodioda~. pirJeve-

cis xelT arsebuli cnobebiT, stalinis

gardacvalebis dRes, sxva qaRaldebs

Soris aRmoaCines titos werili _ am-

deni mcdeloba ar damWirdeba, erTic

meyofao. istorikosTa garkveul nawils

stalinis bunebrivi sikvdili bunebriv

movlenad miaCniaT, radgan belads ramde-

nime mZime insulti hqonda gadatanili.

gamocemis korespondenti ixsenebs

mosazrebas imis Sesaxeb, rom lenini

swored stalinma mowamla. arsebobs

stalinis 1923 wliT daTariRebuli we-

rili politbiuros saxelze, romlis

Tanaxmadac, lenini iTxovs, miscen kali-

umcianidi, magram stalins, misive sity-

vebiT, ìliCis Txovnis Sesasruleblad

Zala ar eyofa~, da amitomac ìZulebu-

lia, uari Tqvas am misiaze, raoden hu-

manuri da aucilebelic unda iyos es~.

Tu orive versia sworia, maSin arse-

bobs `garkveuli uzenaesi samarTliano-

ba~, _ aseTia recenzentis daskvna.

The Daily Deast

mimoxilva moamzada

g. WavWavaZem.

ruseTi kvlavac ganagrZobs baSar

asadis daxmarebas saSinao da sagareo Za-

lebis winaaRmdeg, romlebsac qveynis

prezidentis gadayeneba surT, wers

Financial Times. ès aris simbo-

lo moskovisa da damaskos urTi-

erTobisa, romelic marTalia, ur-

Rvevi ar aris, magram avtoritaru-

li da antidasavluri ori reJimis

utyuari droebiTi aliansia~, _

wers gamocemis mimomxilveli.

`siriis reJimisTvis ruseTi

aris momxiblveli modeli da imav-

droulad _ gafrTxilebac. erTi

mxriv, am modelma mtkivneuli po-

litikuri transformacia ganicada

imiT, rom didi ziani ar miuyenebia

saxelisuflebo ZalisTvis, meore

mxriv ki _ sabWoTa kavSiris da-

qucmaceba damaskos xelisuflebis-

Tvis safrTxis Semcveli simpto-

mia: yvelaferi daangrio imisTvis,

rom Semdeg aRadgino, _ acxadebs siriis

mTavrobis warmomadgeneli.

dasavleTis qveynebi da maTi mokavSi-

reebi cdilobdnen, SeeqmnaT gardamavali

mTavroba asadis gareSe, magram ruseTma

es iniciativa dabloka. adrec iyo SemTx-

vevebi, roca gaeros uSiSroebis sabWoSi

ruseTma orjer gamoiyena vetos ufleba,

aRekveTaT siriis xelisuflebis sawina-

aRmdego moqmedebebi. rusuli samxedro

SeiaraRebis eqsporti da sxva samxedro

mxardaWera udidesi mniSvnelobisaa asa-

dis reJimisTvis. ruseTis mTavar sayr-

dens warmoadgens sazRvao baza siriaSi

_ qalaq tartusSi. urTierTobis kidev

erTi sayrdeni ekonomikaa _ ruseTi si-

rias ugzavnis xorbals, xolo siriisgan

xilsa da bostneuls yidulobs.

dasavleTis bankebma gawyvites

siriasTan kavSiri, ruseTis finan-

suri institutebi ki _ ÂÒÁ,Âíåøýêîíîìáàíê, Ãàçïðîìáàíê _

siriasTan Cveulebriv reJimSi agr-

Zeleben muSaobas. asadis ojaxis

40-wliani mmarTvelobisas, samxed-

ro da sxva dargis aTasobiT siri-

elma specialistma ganaTleba ru-

seTSi miiRo. arsebobs uamravi Se-

reuli ojaxi. `radganac ruseTSi

vswavlobdi, ase mgonia, rusebi Ce-

mi da-Zmebi arian~ _ ase msjelobs

ruseTmovlili rigiTi sirieli.

`gasakviri ar aris, rom asadis

mowinaaRmdegeebs ruseTis mimarT

simpaTia siZulvilSi gadaezardaT

_ opozicionerebi moskovs mSvido-

biano mosaxleobis ganadgurebaSi asadis

saerTaSoriso Tanamzraxvelad ganixila-

ven~, _ vkiTxulobT gamocemaSi.

Financial Times

biZina ivaniSvilze finansuri wnexi grZeldeba

antidasavluri reJimebis aliansi _ droebiTi Tu urRvevi?

axali wigni: stalini titom mokla


zviad gamsaxurdia,

kavkasiuri saxli da

radio `Tavisufleba~

nu viqnebiT miamitebi da nu vi-

fiqrebT, rom riCard niqsoni dele-

gaciasTan erTad turistuli mizne-

biT Camovida saqarTveloSi. ra Tqma

unda, es gaxldaT specialuri dava-

lebiT Camosuli amerikis SeerTebu-

li Statebis jgufi, romelsac, gar-

da oficialurad gamoqveynebul in-

formaciaSi gadmocemuli ambebisa,

sxva mizanic gaaCnda.

oficialurad, niqsonma aRniSna,

rom: `mas aqamde ar hqonia saqarTve-

loSi Camosvlis SesaZlebloba. ame-

rikaSi qarTveli xalxi cnobilia

Tavisi brZolisunarianobiT. Cveni

viziti ar aris oficialuri xasia-

Tis, magram Cveni prezidentis dava-

lebiT varT Camosuli da gvevaleba

saqarTvelos politikuri viTarebis

misTvis gacnoba.

Tqvengan miRebuli informaciis

safuZvelze saWiroa delegaciebis

gacvlas intensiuri xasiaTi mieces,

urTierTdamokidebuleba saqarTve-

losTan iqnes ara iseTi, rogorc

sabWoTa kavSirTan iyo. es iqneba ar-

sebiTad axali saxis urTierTkavSi-

ri. amerikis mxare didad aris dain-

teresebuli saqarTvelosTan urTi-

erTobiT... amerikeli xalxi da mTav-

roba did pativs scemen xalxis mi-

er arCeul mTavrobas. amerikas yo-

velTvis miaCnda, rom yovelma xalx-

ma, mis mier arCeulma mTavrobam Tvi-

Ton unda ganagos TavianTi bedi~ (ga-

zeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~,

#61, 1991 w. 30 marti).

ai, swored es gaxlavT oficia-

lurad is, rac riCard niqsonma xma-

maRla brZana, magram... mainc, ra amba-

vi Cautana aSS-s yofilma preziden-

tma amave amerikis moqmed prezi-

dents?

am kiTxvas mogvianebiT vupasu-

xebT.

jer kidev 1990 wlis dekember-

Si zviad gamsaxurdias saqarTvelos

respublikis uzenaesi sabWos pres-

centrSi gamarTul pres-konferenci-

aze erT-erTma Jurnalistma hkiTxa:

`- batono zviad, Seicvleba Tu

ara evropis, msoflios qveynebis da-

mokidebuleba ssrk-Si Semavali res-

publikis erovnul-ganmaTavisufle-

beli moZraobisadmi?~

zviadma am kiTxvas amgvari pasu-

xi gasca:

`- dasavleTSi jer-jerobiT

mxolod diskusiaa am sakiTxebis ir-

gvliv. buSs hyavs opozicia, rome-

lic eubneba, - ratom xarT mCagvre-

lis mxareze? (saocaria, rom Svili

buSic, ramdenime wlis Semdeg, mama-

saviT `mCagvrelebis~ mxareze dadga!

_ j.d.). moraluri aspeqtiT akriti-

keben buSsa da mis pozicias, magram

is Tavisi pragmatuli da politiku-

ri mosazrebebiT upirispirdeba yo-

velive amas. jer-jerobiT asea... Tu

gaimarjvebs swored is zneobrivi

momenti dasavleTis politikaSi,

romelic prezident reiganis dros

batonobda da iyo wamyvani, ai, maSin

SeiZleba gadmoixaros saswori Cvens

mxareze~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos res-

publika~ #11, 1990 w., dekemberi).

aqve aucileblobad vTvli gavix-

seno, Tu ra damokidebuleba hqonda

zviad gamsaxurdias saer-To kavkasi-

uri saxlis mSeneblobisadmi. ai,

amonaridi zemoTmoyvanili interviu-

dan:

`korespondenti: - batono zviad,

ramdenad realobad migaCniaT saerTo

kavkasiuri saxlis mSenebloba?

zviad gamsaxurdia: - es aris, me

vTvli, Zalian bundovani da ara sa-

Wiro saubari. saerTo saxlze rom

vlaparakobT, jer Cveni sakuTari

saxlebi unda gvqondes. usaxlkaro

adamianebi rom Seikribon da isaub-

ron raRac saerTo saxlze, es aris

utopia da fantazia. jer yvelas Ta-

visi sakuTari saxli unda hqondes,

jer vifiqroT Cven-Cven saxlebze da

yvelam Tavis saxls mixedos~.

ufro sainteresoa zviad gamsa-

xurdias pasuxebi momaval samxedro

gadatrialebis Taobaze:

` _ batono zviad, saqarTvelos

uzenaesma sabWom SeaCera brZaneba

jarebis da miliciis er-Toblivi

moqmedebis Sesaxeb, ra reaqcia mohy-

va amas kremlidan?

-jerjerobiT araviTari reaqcia

ar aris... omis dawyeba ki maT jer-

jerobiT xels ar aZlevT, vidre ame-

rikis SeerTebuli Statebis srul

mxardaWeras ar gainaRdeben~ (gazeTi

`saqarTvelos respublika~ #24,

1991 w. 5 Tebervali).

axla vnaxoT, ras ambobs zviad

gamsaxurdia radio `Tavisuflebis~

Sesaxeb~:

`qarTveli rogor unda daknin-

des imdenad, rom mis qveyanaSi Cata-

rebuli demokratiuli, Tavisufali

arCevnebis Sedegebi ucxoeTidan lan-

ZRos da mosTxaros? amas arc erTi

eri ar akeTebs. magaliTad, aseTi mo-

Ralateebi somxeTSi rom aRmoCndnen,

saxalxod CamoaxrCoben, amdeni moRa-

late arc erT ers ar hyavs... radio

`Tavisuflebis~ qarTuli redaqcia

saqarTvelos mtrebis xel-Sia~

(1991 wlis 2 Tebervali, saqarTve-

los masobrivi informaciis saSua-

lebaTa warmomadgenlebis Sexvedra

respublikis uzenaesi sabWos Tavmj-

domaresTan, zviad gamsaxurdiasTan.

preskonferenciaSi monawileoba mii-

Res `frans presis~ da gazeT `to-

kio singunis~ warmomadgenlebma. ga-

zeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~

#24, 1991 w. 5 Tebervali).

`me radio `Tavisuflebis~ qar-

Tul ganyofilebas vucxadeb boi-

kots, vinaidan is moRalatur saqmi-

anobas eweva. Tqven piradad ki gag-

cemT pasuxs (amas zviadi eubneba ra-

dio `Tavisuflebis~ warmomadgenels

giorgi fofxaZes! _ j.d.), magram mo-

viTxov, rom Cemi saxeliT ar gadai-

ces araferi radio `Tavisufleba-

Si~, vinaidan is moRalatur gzas

adgas~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos res-

publika~ #38, 1991 w. 26 Teberva-

li).

korespondenti: `faqtia, rom da-

savleTis presaSi saqarTveloSi mim-

dinare procesebis garSemo Camoya-

libda stereotipi, rom TiTqos ar-

sebobs ori uzarmazari dapirispire-

buli Zala _ uzenaesi sabWo da

erovnuli kongresi, rom mimdinare-

obs samoqalaqo omi (rogorc xe-

davT, e.w. dasavleTSi ukve pirdapi-

ri didi muSaoba mimdinareobs, TiT-

qos saqarTveloSi samoqalaqo omia

gaCaRebuli, jer kidev 1991 wlis

martia da ukve, mTeli msoflios

e.w. wamyvani qveynebi, amzadeben kanon-

ieri xelisuflebis damxobas. ro-

gorc viciT, Canafiqri kidec gana-

xorcieles 1991-1992 wels, roca

es Savi saqme dagvirgvinda samxedro

gadatrialebiT! _ j.d.), da es ste-

reotipi arafriT ar gansxvavdeba im

dezinformaciisagan, ris gavrcele-

basac, moskovi cdilobs. ratom ar

dganan dasavleli Jurnalistebi Cve-

ni _ Cagruli eris mxareze?

zviad gamsaxurdia: - `imitom,

rom TviT dasavleli saxelmwifoe-

bis mTavrobebi dganan am poziciaze,

isini dResdReobiT faqtobrivad

mCagvrelTa mxareze arian garkveuli

mizezebis gamo~. (gazeTi `saqarTve-

los respublika~, #49, 1991 w. 13

marti, preskonferencia qarTveli,

sabWoTa da ucxoeli Jurnalistebi-

saTvis).

korespondenti: -~gaerTianebuli

erebis organizaciebidan pasuxebi

xom ar migiRiaT Tqven mimarTvebze

da peticiebze?

zviad gamsaxurdia: -~samwuxa-

rod, jer ara. jerjerobiT gaerTi-

anebuli erebis organizacia mxolod

azia-afrikis qveynebisTvis arsebobs

da ara sabWoTa kavSiris damonebuli

xalxebisaTvis. CvenTan kontaqtebs

ise afaseben, rogorc sabWoTa kavSi-

ris saSinao saqmeebSi Carevas~ (1991

wlis 10 aprilis preskonferencia

qarTveli da ucxoeli Jurnaliste-

bisaTvis).

zviad gamsaxurdia

`natos~ Sesaxeb

zviad gamsaxurdia Zalian

frTxilad ekideboda natoSi saqar-

Tvelos gawevrianebas, radgan icoda

_ am organizaciis gafarToeba aRmo-

savleTisaken aucileblad Seejaxe-

boda ruseTis interesebs. ise, kaci

rom dafiqrdes, - evroamerika xma-

maRla rom gaiZaxis _ kavkasiaSi da

mTel msoflioSi Cveni geostrate-

giuli interesebi gagvaCniao, ra,

ruseTs aRar aqvs araviTari stra-

tegiuli interesebi? Se dalocvi-

lo, - aseuli kilometris manZilze

gsurs xeli afaTuro sxva qveynebis

Sinaur Tu sagareo politikaSi,

sul asiode kilometriT dacile-

bul kavkasiis arealSi ruseTs ukve

aRarc daedgomeba da xmis amoRebis

uflebasac arTmeven?

ra Tqma unda, ruseTi Cinebulad

xedavs, rom mis irgvliv _ dasavle-

TiT, samxreTiT, Sua aziisken nato

TandaTan aviwroebs rkals. ukrainas

da belorusias upireben natoSi ga-

wevrianebas da ufro metic _ sTava-

zoben ruseTs, sxvebi ki ara, Senc

unda Semoxvide natoSio.

1991 wlis 30 maiss, zviad gam-

saxurdiam interviu misca TurqeTis

erT-erT yvelaze gavleniani centra-

luri gazeTis `Turqias~ redaqtors

evropis departamentis xaziT, bi-

lal qoCaks:

kiTxva: - `natos wevrobas Tu

fiqrobT?~

pasuxi: - `jer es ar gadagviwy-

vetia. momavali gviCvenebs~.

`- rogor daicavs Tavs saqarT-

velo?

-formirebis procesSia qarTuli

jari. Cven gvinda samxedro, megobru-

li urTierToba davamyaroT mezobel

qveynebTan~ (gazeTi `saqarTvelos

respublika~, #112, 1991 wlis 7 iv-

nisi).

rogorc interviudan Cans, zviad

gamsaxurdia natoSi Sesvlas momav-

lis Temad Tvlis, xolo qarTuli

jaris formirebisaTvis `mezobeli

qveynebis~ imedi aqvs. amerika da ev-

ropa mezoblebi ar arian. ese igi,

ori qveyanaa sagulisxmo _ ruseTi

an TurqeTi!

natos Taobaze zviad gamsaxur-

dias 1991 wlis 3 ivliss moskovSi

gamarTul preskonferenciaze daus-

ves kiTxva:

` _ amboben, rom saqarTvelo na-

toSi Sesvlas apirebso, marTalia

es?~

zviad gamsaxurdiam kiTxvaze Za-

lian mokled upasuxa:

` _ es sasaciloa~.

1991 wels Jurnalistma v. savi-

Cevma (gaz. `argumenti i faqti~

#55) saubrisas zviad gamsaxurdias

hkiTxa:

`_ Tqvenze amboben, Rrmad morw-

mune kaciao. ras SesTxovT RmerTs

locvisas?~

zviad gamsaxurdiam upasuxa:

`_ amas winaT, dasavleTis er-

Tma gazeTma warwerianad dabeWda

foto, sadac me TiTqos arCevnebSi

Cemi gamarjvebisaTvis vloculob-

di. Cemi piradi warmatebisaTvis

arasodes ar vloculob. vlocu-

lob kacobriobisaTvis, Cemi xalxi-

saTvis~.

rogorc vxedavT, evroamerikam

ukve icis, rom zviad gamsaxurdia

apirebs yvelasgan damoukidebuli

kursiT ataros saqarTvelo... ese

igi, _ frTxilad ekideba natoSi ga-

wevrianebas, icis, es Zalian gaabra-

zebs ruseTs... radgan ukve ician

zviad gamsaxurdias momavali gza,

amitomac wauyrues, saqarTveloze

xeli aiRes da is, rac maT gulSi

hqondaT, ruseTis federacias mian-

des sakeTeblad.

Zalian momgebiani pozicia daika-

ves _ adre Tu gvian ruseTis fede-

raciaSi mokalaTebuli, evroameriku-

li gegmis saidumlod ganmaxorcie-

leblebi moaxerxebdnen zviad gamsa-

xurdias xelisuflebis diskredita-

cias, Semdeg ki damxobas, rac gareg-

nulad ruseTs dabraldeboda... si-

namdvileSi _ TavianTi zraxvebic

aRsruldeboda!

maSasadame _ ruseTi gailanZRe-

boda msoflios TvalSi, radgan zvi-

ad gamsaxurdias xelisuflebis dam-

xoba pirdapir ruseTis sindisze iq-

neboda!

albaT amitom iyo, rom 1991

wlis noemberSi gazeT `gruzia-speq-

tris~ mTavar redaqtorTan saubar-

Si, zviad gamsaxurdiam ganacxada:

` _ ra Tqma unda, axali saxel-

mwifos damoukideblobis cnoba, ub-

ralod ar xdeba. miT umetes, roca

saqme exeba yofil sabWoTa respub-

likebs... samwuxarod isea awyobili

saqme jerjerobiT, rom dasavleTis

qveynebi Sehyureben moskovs, Tu ro-

dis gvcnobs igi damoukideblad.

swored es iyo ZiriTadi mizezi imi-

sa, somxeTi rom axlave ar cno Se-

erTebulma Statebma. ase iqneba sa-

qarTvelos mimarTac. amitom ar miv-

divar vaSingtonSi. me iq Caval ma-

Sin, roca davinaxav, rom dasavleTi

damoukidebel politikas awarmo-

ebs...

reqdaqtori: Cveni opozicia la-

parakobs, saqarTvelos dasavleTi ar

scnobs imis gamo, rom CvenSi...

zviad gamsaxurdia: diqtatu-

raao, ara?

_ diax!

zviad gamsaxurdia: dasavleTi ar

scnobs ukrainas, moldovas, som-

xeTs... maS iqac diqtatura yofila.

ara, es ar aris simarTle. dasavle-

Ti ar cnobs am respublikebis damo-

ukideblobas imitom, rom es ar un-

da moskovs.

redaqtori: magram dasavleTma

ukve daiwyo baltiispireTis saxel-

mwifoebis cnoba, ratom?

zviad gamsaxurdia: baltiispire-

Tis saxelmwifoTa sakiTxebSi maT

moilaparakes da SeTanxmdnen, danar-

Ceni respublikebis Sesaxeb ki maT

Soris sxvanairi molaparakebaa. ese

igi, saqme gvaqvs molaparakebasTan

dasavleTsa da aRmosavleTs Soris.

ase rom, Cvens respublikaSi arsebu-

li mdgomareobis mizeziT viTomda

Cveni arcnoba absurduli, politi-

kurad umecrulia~ (gazeTi `saqarT-

velos respublika~ #223, 1991 w.,

27 noemberi).

amave sakiTxebze saubrobs zviad

gamsaxurdia centraluri televizi-

is JurnalistTan urmas otTan:

` _ iseTi STabeWileba iqmneba,

TiTqos mSvenieri saqarTvelo raRac

izolaciaSia sabWoTa kavSiris mxriv

da gasakviria, dasavleTis mxrivac~.

-es gasakviri ar aris. dasavle-

Ti sabWoTa kavSirs da ruseTs Seh-

yurebs.

-Tqven es winaswar iciT, Tu si-

urprizia TqvenTvis?

-marTali giTxraT, siurprizia.

ar megona, rom dasavleTi amdenad

damokidebulia aRmosavleTze da da-

savleTis sazogadoebriv azrs aqedan

marTaven. ar movelodi aseT rames.

-rogor ggoniaT, mas Semdeg, rac

sabWoTa kavSiris arseboba Sewyda,

dasavleTi Seicvlis Tavis Tvalsaz-

riss saqarTveloze Tu ara?

-jerjerobiT ar Cans, da ara

mgonia, rom es ase swrafad moxdes.

-Tqven sakmaod cudi damokidebu-

leba gaqvT dasavleTis liderebTan?

-diax, es maTi bralia, radgan

isini ar arian dainteresebuli impe-

riis daSliT. es xom cnobilia. Cemi

saxiT ki isini xedaven kacs, rome-

lic imperiis dezintegraciis momx-

rea.

-visi imedi gaqvT, Tqveni Zale-

bis, Tu mainc gaqvT dasavleTis Tu

aRmosavleTis raRac imedi?

-umTavresad sakuTari Zalebis~

(gazeTi `saqarTvelos respublika~,

mware gakveTilebievroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666

jemal davlianiZe

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.

`saerTo gazeTi~ #14-25


internetSi

www.saertogazeti.netSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zzee


#249-250, 1991 wlis 21 dekembe-

ri).

rogorc xedavT, winamdebare in-

terviu daibeWda gazeT `saqarTve-

los respublikaSi~ 1991 wlis 21

dekembris nomerSi.

Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, es gaxlavT

im avbediTi samxedro gadatrialebis

dawyebis wina dRe _ 21 dekemberi.

22 dekembers, gamTeniisas saqarTve-

los dedaqalaqSi, mTavrobis sax-

lisken pirveli tyvia gavarda da

kriminalebis xrovam Seutia kanoni-

er xelisuflebas.

zviad gamsaxurdia:

`demokratia iqca

cariel sityvad~

axla gadavxedoT samxedro

putCis Semdgom presas. magaliTad

aviRoT gazeTi `saqarTvelos cis

qveS~ (1992 w. 14 noemberi). Za-

lian sainteresoa samxedro put-

Cis Sefaseba zviad gamsaxurdias

mier. mas esaubreba koresponden-

ti:

`-riT aixsneba dasavluri de-

mokratiis esodeni gulgriloba

saxelmwifos kanonieri xe-

lmZRvanelis bedisadmi?

-mTavrobebi, romelTac Tqven

demokratiuls uwodebT, sinamd-

vileSi didi xania ganudgnen de-

mokratias. demokratia iqca ca-

riel sityvad, romelsac Tavis

nebaze atrialeben dasavleTis

mTavrobaTa, ama Tu im politiku-

ri interesebis SeniRbvad. roca

am mTavrobebs surT gaaZlieron

TavianTi gavlena da samxedro

yofna romelime regionSi, Tavda-

pirvelad, cdiloben moisyidon

am qveynis xelisufleba da Tu

winaaRmdegobas waawydnen, ubra-

lod amxoben mas. aseT SemTxveva-

Si maTTvis ara aqvs mniSvneloba

damxobili reJimis xasiaTs: de-

mokratiulia igi Tu avtorita-

ruli. es mtacebluri midgoma

sxva qveynebisadmi, dRes sabolo-

od damkvidrda natos saxelmwi-

foebSi. aRsaniSnavia, rom dasav-

leTis yvelaze Zlieri saxelmwi-

foebi ukve aRar cdiloben Se-

niRbon TavianTi zraxvebi da aS-

karad, cinikurad Trgunaven sxva

xalxTa nebas. swored es moxda

saqarTvelo-Si.

-batono prezidento, ras war-

moadgenen es msoflio Zalebi,

esoden Tavisuflad rom erevian

ucxo saxelmwifoTa saSinao saq-

meebSi?

-kacobriobis mtrebs, am sity-

vis pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT. isi-

ni miznad isaxaven yvela sxva

xalxis genocids. planetis mTe-

li mosaxleobis erTi gansazRv-

ruli jgufis gamoklebiT, es

jgufi mWidrod aris dakavSire-

buli SeerTebul Statebsa da ev-

ropasTan da mTeli ZaliT miilt-

vis msoflio batonobisaken. zoga-

dad me mas evroamerikul imperia-

lizms vuwodebdi. mTavar damkv-

rel Zalas masSi warmoadgens

aSS. SeiZleba iTqvas, saxelmwifo

gadatrialeba saqarTveloSi imar-

Teboda okeanis gaRmidan aSS sa-

xelmwifo mdivnis j. beikeris pi-

radi monawileobiT da buSis

locva-kurTxeviT. beikerma pirda-

pir mouwoda putCisken saqarTve-

los banditur opoziciur daj-

gufebebs (amerikaSi Cinebulad

icodnen, rom opozicia saqarTve-

loSi kriminaluri mafiisa da yo-

fili partokratebisagan Sedgebo-

da). beikerma mkafiod mianiSna,

rom amerikis SeerTebuli State-

bi ar uWerda mxars saqarTvelo-

Si arsebul reJims da arafriT

daexmareboda mas. scenari gadat-

rialebisa, romelic aSS-m moawyo

saqarTveloSi, adre araerTgzis

gamouyenebia am qveyanas planetis

sxva regionebSic.

(gagrZeelba Semdeg nomerSi)

`TeTrebis~ lederma Temur

SaSiaSvilma `saerTo gazeTTan~

interviuSi ganacxada, rom pre-

zidentad wodebul mixeil saa-

kaSvils SevardnaZis mmarTvelo-

bis periodSi mZRolis `rangSi~

kaci hyavs mokluli, Tumca Se-

vardnaZis ZalisxmeviT es saqme

Caifarcxa. saakaSvilis magivrad

misi mZRoli dausjiaT. am avto-

avariis Sesaxeb informirebuli

yofila badri patarkaciSvilic.

baton badris saakaSvilis sawi-

naaRmdego sxva kompomatebic

hqonia, maT Soris foTis port-

Si gadaricxul milionebTan da-

kavSirebiT da am yvelafris Se-

saxeb saqmis kursSi im period-

Si masTan daaxloebuli valeri

gelbaxianic yofila. Cveni wya-

ros gancxadebiT, valeri gelba-

xians sagazeTo interviuSi uTq-

vams, rom TiTqos tragikul av-

toavariasTan dakavSirebiT in-

formaciis mopovebaSi 2 milio-

ni gadaixada. `saerTo gazeTi~

valeri gelbaxians daukavSirda

da aRniSnul sakiTxebTan dakav-

SirebiT komentari sTxova, mag-

ram man interviuze uari gviTx-

ra, im motiviT, rom es kulua-

ruli informaciebia, dadastu-

rebuli ar aris, iuristi var

da amitom dauzustebel infor-

maciebze ver vilaparakebo. rac

Seexeba informaciaSi fulis ga-

daxdas, man es kategoriulad

uaryo, jer erTi, sad mqonda am-

deni fuli, Tanac aseTi ram ga-

zeTiT arasdros miTqvamso.

axla rac Seexeba msxverpli-

an avtoavarias, sando wyaros

informaciiT, is koba narCemaSvi-

lis Ss ministrobisas moxda we-

reTlis gamzirze, gamofenis mim-

debare teritoriaze. im period-

Si saakaSvili, savaraudod, sak-

rebulos Tavmjdomare iyo. igi,

Turme, arafxizel mdgomareoba-

Si marTavda Savi feris `vol-

gas~. ra drosac fexiT mosiaru-

les, daaxloebiT 45-50 wlis

mamakacs daejaxa. dajaxeba imde-

nad Zlieri iyo, rom mamakaci

SemTxvevis adgilze gardaicva-

la. SemTxvevis adgilze gasul

policielebs gvarianad mTvrali

saakaSvili daxvedriaT. e.w. didi

reformatoris danaxvaze poli-

cielebi dabneulan, aRar icod-

nen gaeformebinaT Tu ara enat-

likina demokratiisa da samarT-

lianobis didi damcveli, rome-

lic maSindel policias mosis-

xle mtrad aRiqvamda, amitom

Sss-s xelmZRvanelobas dakavSi-

rebian, rogor moviqceTo. xelm-

ZRvanelobam maT mocda sTxova,

cota xanSi ki uTxres: saakaS-

vils nu daafiqsirebT, misi

mZRoli mova da es Sejaxeba mas-

ze gaaformeTo. rogorc Cans,

SeTanxmeba prezident Sevardna-

ZesTan moxda, romelmac sacixed

ar gawira politikuri Svilo-

bili da `perspeqtiuli~ poli-

tikosi. misi mZRoli am gadawy-

vetilebis miRebamde misula ad-

gilze, romelic Turme ambobda,

ramdenjer vTxove saakaSvils,

mTvrali nu jdebi saWesTan, mag-

ram ar damijerao. mokled, am

avtoavariaSi damnaSaved saakaS-

vilis mZRoli gamoacxades, Tum-

ca didi xniT ar daukavebiaT, 2-

3 TveSi gauTavisuflebiaT. gar-

dacvlilis ojaxma Turme dRem-

de ar icis, maTi ojaxis ufro-

si saakaSvilma rom Seiwira.

sxvaTa Soris, am avtoavariis

Sesaxeb me TviTonac mqonda in-

formacia gamoqveynebuli erT-

erT gazeTSi, Tumca mec sul ax-

laxan gavige, vin iyo realuri

damnaSave. darwmunebuli var,

aseTi danaSauli romelime ara-

reformator politikoss an im

maRalCinosans, miT umetes Za-

lovans rom Caedina, romelic

Jvania-saakaSvilis gundis mxar-

damWerad ar ganixileboda, `re-

formatorebi~ qveyanas daaqcevd-

nen, naxeT, SevardnaZe Tavis

xelqveiTebs rogor icavso. Te-

mur SaSiaSvilis TqmiT, is ma-

RalCinosani policieli, rome-

lic am saqmesTan dakavSirebiT

srulad iyo saqmis kursSi, dRe-

sac Sss-s sistemaSi muSaobs.

`saerTo gazeTma~ am pirovnebis

vinaobac gaarkvia, is am avtoava-

riis dros marTlac muSaobda

Tbilisis sagzao policiis im

samsaxurSi, romelic uSualod

kurirebda avtoavariebis sa-

kiTxs. es adamiani, miuxedavad

asakisa, mogexsenebaT, saakaSvils

40 welze meti xnis xec ki ar

unda, dResac muSaobs Tbilisis

policiis erT-erT ganyofileba-

Si sapasuxismgeblo Tanamdeboba-

ze. rogorc Cans, `vardosnebma~

pirSi wylis Cagubeba daufases.

`udanaSaulobis prezumfciidan~

gamomdinare, am pirovnebis dasa-

xelebisgan Tavs SevikavebT.

sxvaTa Soris, sarwmuno wya-

ros TqmiT, valeri gelbaxianma

marTlac SesTavaza informaciis

mimwodeblebs Tanxa, magram maT

uari Tqves, mxolod is uTqvamT,

im TanamSromels aCuqeT mcire

Tanxa, vinc uSualod monawile-

obda am saqmis mokvlevaSi. igi

`vardosnebma~ samsaxuridan da-

iTxoves da Zalze uWirso, mag-

ram im adamians araferi miuRia.

am informaciis gadamowmeba ki im

martivi mizeziT ver movaxer-

xeT, rom, rogorc ukve aRvniS-

neT, valeri gelbaxianma CvenTan

am Temaze saubari ar isurva. am

saqmesTan dakavSirebiT, saqmis

kursSi srulad myofi adamiane-

bi, anu `pirveli xeli~ Tavisi

vinaobis gamxelas ar moeridebo-

da, magram maTi usafrTxoebidan

gamomdinare, Segnebulad vikaveb

Tavs maTi vinaobis gamxelisgan.

sxvaTa Soris, ramdenime

wlis win prezident saakaSvi-

lis eskorti gurjaanis raionis

erT-erT sofelSi aTi wlis

bavSvs daejaxa. korteJma gauCe-

reblad gaagrZela gza. bavSvi

saavadmyofoSi gadaiyvanes. am

faqtis Sesaxebac daibeWda pre-

saSi, Tumca ver getyviT, gadar-

Ca Tu ara bavSvi, radgan misma

ojaxma presasTan am faqtze sa-

ubari ar isurva. aseTi faqtebi

darwmunebuli varT, mravlad iq-

neba, oRond dazaralebulTa da-

Sinebis gamo ar xmaurdeba. vin

aris damnaSave am incidentSi,

unda gaCerebuliyo Tu ara pre-

zidentis eskorti msgavsi faq-

tebisas, amis garkveva `saerTo

gazeTma~ im yofil policieleb-

Tan scada, romlebic wlebis

ganmavlobaSi muSaobdnen prezi-

dent SevardnaZis gacileba-es-

kortirebis samsaxurSi da gar-

kveuli periodi saakaSvilsac

emsaxurebodnen. maT im faqtis

gaxsenebac vTxoveT, rogor mou-

vida konfliqti iusticiis mi-

nistris moadgile irakli oq-

ruaSvils xsenebuli samsaxuris

TanamSromlebTan. raoden gasak-

viradac ar unda mogeCvenoT, ka-

xeTSi momxdar avtoavariaSi

profesionalma policielebma

uSualod mixeil saakaSvili da-

adanaSaules da ratom – prezi-

dentis korteJi sanam raime mi-

marTulebiT daiwyebs gadaadgi-

lebas, gzis am monakveTze winas-

war jgufs uSveben mosawesri-

geblad. amowmeben saeWvo avto-

manqanebs, saerTodacD gahyavT

avtotransporti am monakveTidan

da a.S. amas hqvia `trasis gawyo-

ba~. es jgufi da sxva Sesabami-

si samsaxurebi gansakuTrebuli

gulisyuriT im monakveTebze mu-

Saoben, sadac bevri fexiT mosi-

arule moZraobs, miT umetes

bavSvebi. gansakuTrebuli patru-

lireba skolebTan da sabavSvo

baRebTan xdeba, yovel SemTxveva-

Si, SevardnaZis mmarTvelobisas

ase iyo, radgan prezidentis es-

korti Zalze didi siCqariT ga-

daadgildeba. am siCqaresac Tavi-

si axsna aqvs, prezidentis kor-

teJi rTuli samizne unda iyos,

teraqtebi Tavidan rom aicilon.

avtomanqanebiT moZravi jgufis

garda, xsenebul monakveTze qve-

iTi guSagebic dganan, fexiT mo-

siaruleebis moZraoba rom daa-

reguliron. profesionalTa Tq-

miT, SesaZlebelia, kaxeTSi am

kuTxiT gza mowesrigebuli ar

iyo, rac rbilad rom vTqvaT, mi-

xeil saakaSvilis araordinalu-

robas ukavSirdeba. yofila Sem-

Txvevebi, rom `laguna veredan~

is kancelariaSi unda wasuliyo,

gzac am mimarTulebiT gauwyvi-

aT, saakaSvils ki marSruti

uceb Seucvlia da kancelariis

magivrad, mcxeTis salobieSi

amouyvia Tavi. cxadia, am SemTx-

vevaSi eskortis TanamSromlebi

gzis gawyobas ver moaswrebdnen,

riTac saakaSvili safrTxes mar-

to sakuTar Tavs ki ara, rigiT

moqalaqeebsac uqmnida da albaT,

kvlavac uqmnis. korteJis gaCe-

reba gamoricxulia da SemTxve-

viT saval nawilze aRmoCenil

adamians Tu avtomanqanas didi

siCqariT mimavali uzarmazari

eskorti gadaTelavs. korteJi

mxolod prezidentis uSualo

moTxovniT SeiZleba gaCerdes,

misi dacvis ufross es ar SeuZ-

lia. sanam prezidentis inaugu-

racia moxdeba, igi Turme fics

aZlevs Tavisi dacvis TanamSrom-

lebs, rom daemorCileba maT,

anu specialistebis moTxovnebs.

Cveni respondentebi darwmunebu-

li arian, rom saakaSvilis Sem-

TxvevaSi es ar xdeba da dacvis

ufross arafers ekiTxebian.

dacva xmas verc amoiRebs, rad-

gan winaaRdeg SemTxvevaSi, ar

aris gamoricxuli samsaxuri

dakargon. ase rom, asafeTqeblad

gamzadebuli bombiviT dahqris

saakaSvili Tavisi mravalricxo-

vani korteJiT saqarTvelos

gzebze da aravin icis, rodis

vis Seiwiravs.

manana suxiSvili

dasasruli. dasawyisi ix.

`saerTo gazeTi~ #29

saWesTan mjdarma mixeil saakaSvilma kaci rom gaitana, amaze informacia

badri patarkaciSvils hqonda da amis Sesaxeb erTma misma

axlobelma politikosmac icis...


adiSis xediT tkboba Tu gin-

daT, an gamTeniisas unda daxe-

doT zevidan an mimwuxrisas,

roca amomavali Tu Camavali mze

koSkebs Suq-CrdilebiT ametyve-

lebs da idumalebas mxolod

mdinaris xma arRvevs. vzivar

macxovris taZarTan mxcovan ada-

mianebTan bavCi qaldanTan da gi-

unter avalianTan erTad da Ca-

mavali mziT nafer suraTs dav-

cqeri. qveviT, TemSaraze Cveni

maspinZeli tarzan qaldani ga-

moCnda _ cxenebi mohyavs xva-

lindeli mogzaurobisTvis.

bavCi da giunteri erTmaneTs

enacvlebian erTi legendis

TxrobaSi.

_ adiSi didi Temi iyo, gana

marto es, sadac axla varT. ze-

viT kidev oTxi sofeli yofila.

erTs, zed adiSis myinvaris Zir-

Si rom iyo, wvirmi rqmevia.

_ wvirmi xom qveviTaa, ifar-

Tan axlos, _ bodiSis moxdiT

vawyvetineb Txrobas.

_ diax, is aris, magram adre,

ufro Zveli wvirmi aq yofila.

am wvirmelebs didZali piruty-

vi hyoliaT da Turme saukeTeso

yveli amohyavdaT. erTxel uTq-

vamT, aba, vnaxoT visi yveli uke-

Tesiao, gamoutaniaT saukeTeso

Tavebi, erTmaneTis ukan Caumwk-

rivebiaT da Soridan srola da-

uwyiaT. visi yvelis mwkrivSic

tyvia bolomde ver gaatanda, ga-

marjvebuli is iqneboda. Tofis

xmaze adiSis myinvari mowyveti-

la da sofeli mTlianad dau-

marxavs. gadarCenila mxolod

erTi ymawvili, romelsac amJa-

mindel wvirmSi mcxovrebi gogo

Sehyvarebia. mSoblebs qaliSvi-

lis ganadgurebul sofelSi

gaTxovebaze uari uTqvamT, vaJs

ki Turme aseTi piroba wauyene-

bia: me mxolod maSin dagTanxm-

debiT CasiZebaze, Tu Tqvens so-

fels Cemi soflis saxels daar-

qmevTo. ai, ase gaqra erTi wvir-

mi da gaCnda meore wvirmi, _ da-

asrules Txroba moxucebma, mag-

ram me mainc ar vusveneb.

_ xval rom zeviT wavalT,

Zveli soflebis nangrevebis nax-

va Tu SegveZleba?

_ SegeZlebaT, _ ambobs bavCi

qaldani, _ oRond sxva nasof-

larisa. masTan axlos aris ek-

lesia, romelsac qudosani wmin-

da giorgi hqvia. eklesiis zeviT

didi lodebiT Semovlebuli

mindoria, buRas karvebi hqvia.

buRa kaci iyo, gvarad Cegiani.

buRa, amitom erqva, rom didi,

Ronieri vaJkaci yofila da SeZ-

lebiTac veravin sjobda. ambo-

ben, yvela svans is patronobdao.

eh, sxvanairi iyo es xeoba adre,

12 gvaris xalxi cxovrobda.

... meore dila gaTenda. jo-

yola Cegians, operator sozar

gulbansa da me tarzan qaldani

gviwevs megzurobas. cxenebiT

mivdivarT. adiSidan aRmosavle-

TiT, mdinaris saTaveebisken mi-

vuyvebiT xeobas. vefxvs hgavs

adiSWala, zogan iseTia, rom

Segzaravs, zvirTi zvirTze ga-

dasdis da Rrialebs. Crdiloe-

Tidan TeTnuldis qaTqaTa konu-

si Semogvcqeris, pirdapir xal-

des myinvaris nawili da rusTa-

velis piki Cans _ lurji feri

gadahkravT. yovel 100-200 na-

bijze ferdobidan nakadulebi

Camorbian da adiSWalas uerTde-

bian. cxenebi frutuniT midian

da Tavis aSvebas lamoben.

`jgrag liCaniSs~ mivadeqiT. es

X-XI saukuneebis wminda gior-

gis saxelobis eklesiaa, romel-

sac `qudosan wminda giorgisac~

uwodeben. taZari, ufro swored

misi ZiriTadi da Zveli darbazi,

romelic Sirimis kargad gaTli-

li kvadrebiTaa nagebi, moculo-

biT adiSis `macxovars~

(6,55X5,2 m) ki CamorCeba, magram

`qaSveTisa~ da `Taringzelis~

Tanatolia (4,9X4,2 m). taZari

rom garedanac iyo moxatuli,

amas aRmosavleTis frontonis

qvebi mowmobs. gvian xanebSi,

taZrisTvis zerele monaSenebi

miudgamT. Tu adiSis samxreT

ubanSi mdgari `qaSveTis wminda

giorgi~ maxloblad mdebare ve-

rilaris mTebSi arCvebze sanadi-

rod mimavali vaJkacebis salo-

cavi iyo, `jgrag liCaniSi~ TeT-

nuldisaken jixvebze mimaval mo-

nadireebs ulocavda xolme

gzas. amitomac aris, rom `jgrag

liCaniSis~ karebze erTavad

jixvis rqebia mimagrebuli. ro-

gorc vTqviT, am eklesias meore-

nairad `qudosani wminda gior-

gi~ hqvia. `liCaniSoba~ Zveli

svanuri dResaswaulia da swo-

red qudosnobas, anu ojaxSi va-

JiSvilis SeZenas exmaureba. sva-

neTSi biWi rom gaCndeba, ityvi-

an ojaxs qudosani, anu qudis

damxuri Seematao. `jgrag liCa-

niSis~ morRveul koSkze miyu-

debuli uzarmazari fiWvisa da

naZvis Rvatebi (Wokebi), romel-

Ta simaRle 4-dan 6 metramde

meryeobs, swored dResaswaul

`liCaniSobas~ gvaxsenebs. es

dResaswauli agvistoSi `kviri-

kobis~ Semdeg, imarTeba. aq mo-

suli mlocvel-mmavedreblebis

erTi nawili ojaxSi vaJiSvilis

SeZenas SesTxovs mTavarmowames,

meore nawili, romelsac wminda

giorgim wina `liCaniSobaze~ Se-

usmina da qudosani gauCina, Rva-

tebiT modis. Rvatebs wverSi

sxvadasxva feris almebi aqvs mi-

magrebuli. sanaxaoba erTob Tva-

lismomWrelia da masSi aris ra-

Rac warmarTuli.

ai, aseTi saintereso da bu-

rusiT mosili dResaswaulia

`liCaniSoba~, romelsac

adiSis es eklesia maspin-

Zlobs. magram Cven axla

sxva ram ufro gvainte-

resebs _ taZris interi-

erSi Semonaxuli grafi-

ti, anu Zveli nakawri

warwera. da marTlac,

darbazis CrdiloeT ked-

lis nalesobis Sua adgi-

las, wm. Tevdores fres-

kaze, iatakis donidan

170 sm. is simaRleze, ga-

WirvebiT ikiTxeba garda-

mavali mxedruliT Ses-

rulebuli mokle warwe-

ra: `w(mida)o T(evdore-

)e, S(eiwyal)e Cegi~.

freskasa da warweras

t.Seviakova da v.siloga-

va XI saukunis pirveli

meoTxediT aTariReben

(ix.krebuli `svaneTi~ 2008

w.gv.260 da saq. mecn. akademiis

`moambe~ t.XXVIII #3, 1961 gv.

384).

ai, es Cegi SeiZleba CaiTva-

los erisTav Cegianebis gvaris

eponimad da fuZemdeblad. sxvaTa

Soris, legendaruli buRa Cegi-

anis nasaxlari, rogorc ukve av-

RniSneT aqedan Sors aRaraa.

rogorc irkveva, CegianTa

erT Stos sxvadasxva dros gva-

ris forma Seucvlia da

roCagianebi, ruCegianebi

da riCgvanebi gamxdaran,

rac, vfiqrob, samoqala-

qo werilobiT ZeglebSi

daSvebuli Secdomebis

Sedegi unda iyos (sava-

raudod, (rostom Cegia-

ni II roCegiani; rustam

Cegiani II ruCegiani, an

rejeb Cegiani II reCegia-

ni da sxva). XIII-XIV

saukuneTa erT `dawe-

rilSi~ naxsenebia gior-

gi roCagiani, romelic

Tavis ojaxs lahilis

moxerisis mTavarange-

lozs avedrebs. amis

Semdeg Cegianebi pirve-

lobas gelovanebs uTmo-

ben erTxans. 1503 wels

Sedgenil sabuTSi `wigni aleq-

sandre mefisa svanTa mier jafa-

riZeTa sisxlis gadaxdaze~ isi-

ni, dadeSkelianebTan erTad,

ecerSi, anu balsqvemo svaneTSi

Canan. CegianTa gvars roCegiane-

bis, ruCegianebis, da ruCegifxes

formiT vxvdebiT XVI, XVII,

XVIII saukuneTa sabuTebSi (ix.

`svaneTis werilobiTi Zeglebi

t.I) da bolos, cnobilia, xal-

des ajanyebis erT-erTi moTave

momi Cegiani, romelzec erT-er-

Ti wina mogzaurobisas visaub-

reT.

xalde, romelic SemdgomSi

CegianTa gviandeli samosaxlo

sofeli gaxda, adiSidan samxre-

TiT, xaldeWalis xeobaSia da

zafxulSi fexiT gadasvla SeiZ-

leba, magram Cven legendebis

mxares aq, adiSWalis saTaveebSi,

vemSvidobebiT.

gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi

adiSis Temi

mogzauroba samSobloSi

`liCaniSis~ aRmosavleTisa da

dasavleTis xedebi RvatebiT.

legendebi buRazeda wvirmelebze

TeTnuldi

joyola Cegiani da werilis avtori adiSWalis saTaveebSi

adiSis erT-erTi nasoflari;

Cegis grafiti `liCaniSSi~;

jixvis rqebi eklesiis winkarSi.


ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss cciixxeeeebbSSii rroomm mmnniiSS-

vvnneelloovvaann rriiccxxvvss mmiiaaRRwwiiaa uussaaffuuZZvv-

lloodd ggaammoommwwyyvvddeeuull aaddaammiiaannTTaa rriiccxx-

vvmmaa,, aarraavviissTTvviissaaaa ssiiaaxxllee,, TTuummccaa,,

rrooddeessaacc mmSSoobbeellss jjaannmmrrTTeelloobbiiss

pprroobblleemmiiss mmqqoonnee SSvviillss mmiiaayyoolleebbeenn

mmZZeevvlliiss ssaaxxiiTT ddaa wwlloobbiiTT TTaavviissuuff-

lleebbiiss aaRRkkvveeTTaass mmiiuussjjiiaann oorriivveess,,

yyoovveellggvvaarr zzRRvvaarrss sscciillddeebbaa.. ssaauubbaa-

rriiaa jjiimmSSeerr CCaaCCiibbaaiiaassaa ddaa jjiimmSSeerr

eelliizzbbaarraaSSvviillzzee,, rroommeellTTaa ssaaqqmmee ssaa-

xxaallxxoo ddaammccvveelliiss mmooxxsseenneebbaaSSiicc mmooxx-

vvddaa..

rraass eeddaavveebbiiaann 22001100 wwlliiss 1100 ooqq-

ttoommbbeerrss ddaakkaavveebbuull mmaammaa-SSvviillss __

22000077 wweellss SSiinniiddaann ggaavviiddaa ddaa aaRRaarr

ddaabbrruunnddaa ffiinnaannssuurrii ppoolliicciiiiss TTaa-

nnaammSSrroommlliiss,, ggiioorrggii ssoolloommoonniiaass mmaa-

mmaa oolleegg ssoolloommoonniiaa.. oojjaaxxmmaa rraammddee-

nniimmee ddRReeSSii iinntteerrnneettiiTT mmiiiiRRoo

SSeettyyoobbiinneebbaa,, rroomm TTuu mmaammiiss ddaabbrruunnee-

bbaa uunnddooddaaTT,, ggaaddaassaaxxddeellii iiyyoo 2255

000000 __ vvaalluuttaa aarr ssaaxxeellddeebbooddaa..

aammaavvee ssaaqqmmeeSSii ffiigguurriirreebbss mmaaTTiivvee

nnaaTTeessaavvii TTeemmuurr xxaarraaiiSSvviillii,, rroommeell-

mmaacc oojjaaxxss ggaammooaarrTTvvaa 33000000 ddoollaarrii,,

mmkkiiTTxxaavviiss ssaaffaassuurrii,, rroommee-

lliicc mmaaTT aappoovvnniinneebbddaa ggaauuCCii-

nnaarreebbuullss,, SSeemmddeegg uukkvvee 2255

000000 ddoollaarrii mmooiiTTxxoovvaa.. xxssee-

nneebbuullii ppiirriiss mmiimmaarrTT ssiissxx-

lliiss ssaammaarrTTlliiss ssaaqqmmee ddRReemm-

ddee aarr aaRRZZrruullaa,, ssaassjjeellss

mmaammaa,, pprrooffeessiiiiTT eeqqiimmii,, jjiimm-

SSeerr CCaaCCiibbaaiiaa ddaa IIII jjgguuffiiss

iinnvvaalliiddaadd ccnnoobbiillii,, ddiiaabbee-

ttiiTT ddaaaavvaaddeebbuullii,, iinnssuulliinn-

ddaammookkiiddeebbuullii jjiimmSSeerr eellii-

zzbbaarraaSSvviillii iixxddiiaann.. mmoottiivvii

__ 11999966 wweellss uuTTaannxxmmooeebbaa

mmoossvvlliiaaTT ggaauuCCiinnaarreebbuullssaa

ddaa jjiimmSSeerr CCaaCCiibbaaiiaass,, rraacc aamm

uukkaannaasskknneelliiss bbiizznneessiiss CCaavvaarrddnnaassTTaann

iiyyoo ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbuullii ddaa SSuurriissZZiieebbiiss

mmiizznniiTT 1111 wwlliiss SSeemmddeegg `̀ggaaaaqqrroo~~ ssoo-

lloommoonniiaa.. `̀rroommeellii ggrraaff mmoonnttee-

kkrriissttoo jjiimmSSeerriiaa??~~ __ uukkvviirrTT oojjaa-

xxiiss wweevvrreebbssaa ddaa mmaaTT aaxxlloobblleebbss,,

rroommlleebbiicc,, ssaakkuuTTaarrii oojjaaxxiiss uussaaffrr-

TTxxooeebbiiddaann ggaammoommddiinnaarree RRiiaadd ggaammooCCee-

nnaass eerriiddeebbiiaann..

_ jimSeri da olegi icnobdnen

erTmaneTs. im dros solomonias

avia-xazi hqonda senakidan ruseTis

mimarTulebiT da radgan jimSer Ca-

Cibaias biznesidan gamomdinare kav-

Siri hqonda ruseTTan, am mxriv

hqondaT urTierToba _ am doneze

iyo maTi nacnoboba Tu axlobloba.

rac Seexeba Svils, jimSer elizba-

raSvils, igi mxolod mZevalia sa-

marTaldamcavebis xelSi, raTa mama-

ze moxdes avadmyofi SviliT zewo-

la da aRiaros brali.

__ SSvviillii rraa ddaannaaSSaauulliissTTvviiss iixx-

ddiiss ssaassjjeellss,, rrooggoorrcc TTaannaammzzrraaxxvvee-

llii??

_ diax, rogorc Tanamonawile,

magram amis aranairi mtkicebuleba

ar arsebobs. jer warudgines brali

motacebaze, gamoZalvaze, Caudes

narkotiki, Caudes tyviebic... mama-

Svili erTad cxovrobdnen metro

`delisTan~, jer daakaves mama, ro-

melic manqanasTan idga da Semdeg

kriminaluri policia miadga Svils,

albaT, aTi kaci iqneboda, sastikad

scemes, daudes narkotiki da avto-

matis mWidi ramdenime vazniT. ram-

denad logikuria, kacma policias

kari gauRos jibeSi `raJokiT?~

uamravi niuansia, romeli erTi

giTxraT _ TiTis anabeWdebi araa

aRebuli, arc erTi e.w nivTmtkice-

bidan; rodesac samedicino eqsper-

tiza Catarda, arc erTs ar hqonda

sisxlSi narkotikuli nivTiereba _

elementarulad, diabetiani adamiani

narkomani ver iqneboda...

__ iinntteerrnneettiiTT ggaauuggzzaavvnneess ggaammoo-

ssaassyyiiddiiss mmooTTxxoovvnnaaoo,, ggaammggzzaavvnniiss ssaa-

vvaarraauuddoo mmiissaammaarrTTiiss ddaaddggeennaa mmaarrttii-

vvaaddaaaa SSeessaaZZlleebbeellii IP mmiissaammaarrTTiiTT,,

ssaammii wwlliiss ggaannmmaavvlloobbaaSSii vveerr ddaaaaddggii-

nneess vviinn ggaauuggzzaavvnnaa??

_ realurad araferi ar dginde-

ba da verc mtkicdeba. gamoZalvis

moTxovna igzavneboda internet-ka-

fedan da mowmeebi sami wlis Semdeg

`ixseneben~ konkretul dros iq Se-

sul mamakacs, jimSer CaCibaias,

Tumca, saaTnaxevris ganmavlobaSi

fizikurad absoluturad gansxvave-

buls. asaks, garujvas da WaRaras

am xnis ganmavlobaSi ver gadaike-

Teb, xom? anda, sami wlis win ram-

deni ucnobi SegxvdaT, aRidgenT maT

garegnobas da amoicnobT? _ ase Se-

keres saqme.

__ aarrssii??

_ viTom gaxsnili saqme.

__ ddrrooeebbiiTTii mmooTTaavvsseebbiiss iizzoollaa-

ttoorrSSii SSeessvvlliiss mmddggoommaarreeoobbiiTT,, oorrii-

vvee ddaakkaavveebbuullii ppiirriiss ggaarreeggnnuullii

ddaaTTvvaalliieerreebbiiss ooqqmmiiss ((##002211111100 ddaa

##002211111111)) CCaannaawweerrii vvnnaaxxee,, ssaaddaacc ddaa-

ffiiqqssiirreebbuullii ffaaqqttiiaa,, rroomm nnaacceemmeebbii

mmiiiiyyvvaanneess.. ssaammii wweelliiaa ssaassjjeellss iixxddii-

aann ddaa mmiiuuxxeeddaavvaadd ffiizziikkuurrii ddaa ffssii-

qqoollooggiiuurrii wwnneexxiissaa,, ddRReemmddee aarr aaRRii-

aarreebbeenn ddaannaaSSaauullss –– kkaaii ggaaZZlleebbaa mmiiss-

cceeTT RRmmeerrTTmmaa!!

_ dakavebisas sastikad scemes

orive da gaupatiurebiT emuqrebod-

nen orives, Tu ar aRiarebdnen da-

naSauls. muStebisa da wixlebiT

cemis garda, gamomZiebelma badri

darbaiZem pistoletis taric Caar-

tya SublSi CaCibaias. policiis Ta-

namSromlebis mxridan fizikuri an-

gariSsworeba gagrZelda Sss-Sic,

sadac, fanjridan gadagdebisa da ga-

upatiurebis muqara ar aRsrulebu-

la, magram gansakuTrebuli sisasti-

kiT tariel alaviZe gamoirCeoda.

iciT, rom prokurorma urCia eliz-

baraSvils, rom uaryoT policie-

lebis Cadenili kanondarRvevebi,

raTa uaryofiTad ar asaxuliyo

saproceso SeTanxmebaze. rom scemd-

nen da awamebdnen, cxadia, insulins

ar gaukeTebdnen, kinaRam gardaicva-

la 30 wlis kaci... am saqmis Sesa-

xeb cnobilia evrokavSiris adamian-

Ta wamebis winaaRmdeg arsebuli ko-

mitetisTvis, romelmac cixeSi ga-

agzavna Tavisi delegacia.

__ rraammddeennii wweellii aaqqvvTT mmiissjjiillii..

_ SekrebiTobis principiT, qa-

laqis sasamarTlom orives miusaja

30 da 32 weli,

__ rraattoomm mmiiiivviiwwyyeess ssaapprroocceessoo

ggaarriiggeebbaa,, aammiiss ggaammoo xxoomm ppoolliicciieell-

TTaa mmiieerr CCaaddeenniillii ee..ww kkaannoonnddaarrRRvvee-

vveebbii uuaarryyvveess bbrraallddeebbuulleebbmmaa??

_ getyviT, ra saxis garigebas

sTavazobdnen, is ki ara, aramed,

Tqvi, rom Seni Cadenilia danaSau-

li, cocxalia Tu mkvdari, gvaCvene

sadac aris solomonia da Sen mo-

gisjiT 6 wels, Sen Svils ki, pi-

robiTs mivusjiT da darbazidan ga-

vuSvebTo. normaluri adamiani, Tu

marTla misi gakeTebuli iqneboda

es saqme, xom aRiarebda, magram misi

gakeTebuli ar aris da rogor aC-

venos gamqrali kaci?

saqmem gadainacvla saapelacio

sasamarTloSi, sakasacio sasamarT-

loSi da amis Semdeg moixsna gamo-

Zalvis muxli, uzenaesma sasamarT-

lom 6-6 weli mouklo da 24 da

26 weli dautova.

danarCeni ucvlelad darCa.

__ mmoossaammaarrTTlliissaa ddaa pprrookkuurroorriiss

vviinnaaoobbaa TTuu ggaaxxssoovvTT?? eerrTTii wwuuTTiiTT,,

TTuu TTaannxxiiss ggaammooZZaallvvaa mmooiixxssnnaa,, aaddaammii-

aanniiss ggaattaacceebbaa rrooggoorrRRaa

ddaarrCCaa??

_ ai, asea. kompiuteriT

gamoZalvis werilis gagzav-

naze cru-mowmeebis saxiT

viRacebi mainc arian da ra-

Rac sisuleleebi ki dades,

magram solomonias gatace-

basTan dakavSirebiT esec ar

aris. prokurori iyo frang

(franko) anyosi da saqme mi-

yavda Tengiz xarebavas. rac

Seexeba mosamarTleebs _

ooo! _ rogorc `simarT-

lis mkvlelebi~, cnobili

mosamarTleebi arian, isini,

romelTa Sesaxeb beWdur mediaSi

iwereba. qalaqis sasamarTloSi iyo

marine cercvaZe (masze jer ar we-

ria), saapelacio sasamarTloSi

sxdomis Tavmjdomare iyo mzia lom-

TaTiZe, mosamarTle _ giorgi Cemia,

xolo winaswari patimroba miusaja

vaJa fuxaSvilma, xolo sakasacio

ganaCens xels awers Tavmjdomare

maia oSxareli. uamravi moTxovna

iyo dawerili braldebulebis mxri-

dan, prokuraturis, parlamentis,

TviT prezidentis saxelze, rom maT

wamebaze Catarebuliyo samedicino

eqspertiza, magram fuxaSvilma ar

darTo neba _ rad ginda, yurs ara-

vin ibertyavs... sisxlis samarTlis

saqme ki aRiZra antikorufciul de-

partamentSi viTom, magram aRZres

da darCa mxolod aRZruli...

__ ddRReeiiss mmddggoommaarreeoobbiiTT rraa xxddee-

bbaa..

_ uzenaes sasamarTloSi 6 we-

li mouxsnes mamas, viTom solomo-

nias gamtacebels, 6 weli Svils,

romelsac darCa 26 weli, radgan

mas TiTqos jibeSi tyviebi hqonda.

__ rrooggoorrcc vvxxeeddaavv,, yyvveellaa iinnssttaann-

cciiaa mmooggiivvlliiaaTT,, ssttrraassbbuurrggii ddaaggrr-

CCaaTT.. eeqqvvssii TTvvee vvaaddaa ggaaqqvvTT,, aarr ffiiqq-

rroobbTT,, rroomm TTuu ssttrraassbbuurrggSSii ggaaddaawwyy-

vveettTT ssaaqqmmiiss ggaassaaCCiivvrreebbaass,, aaxxlliiddaann

ddaaiiwwyyeebbaa ddaappaattiimmrreebbuull mmaammaa-SSvviillzzee

zzeewwoollaa??

_ albaT, magram saidan gaaCinon

gamqrali kaci. erTi dRiT ukanonod

Tavisuflebis aRkveTaa damTrgunve-

li da 24-26 weli sapyrobileSi

yofna rogori gasaZlebia 57 wlis

asakovani kacisa da misi 32 wlis

diabetiani SvilisTvis?

maia WeliZe

saidan gaaCinos gamqrali adamiani mama-Svilma, romlebsac

Caudeneli `danaSaulis~ gamo 24 da 26 weli aqvT misjili?

zustad ormoci

wlis win, vanosa-

viT ubralo “jibe-

ebgamofxekili so-

fleli” komkavSireli bi-

Wis, eduard ambroseviCis

karierac zustad ese daiwyo

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moucxada korufciasa da

kriminalur samyaros... unda

iTqvas, rom eduardiT maSin

zustad iseve iyo aRfrTo-

vanebuli socialisturi

saqrTvelo, rogorc dRevan-

deli gakulakebuli saqarT-

veloa vanoTi aRfrTovane-

buli.

memarjvene liber-

tarianobidan- me-

marcxene maoizm-va-

noizmamde... ise ne-

ta memarjveneobis dedebi da

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_ sad unda SevitanoT gancxa-

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_ gancxadeba Svilad ayvanis

Sesaxeb Seitaneba sasamarTloSi

mSvileblis an Svilad asayvanis

sacxovrebeli adgilis mixedviT.

* * *

_ SemiZlia Tu ara samoqalaqo

saqmeze gavakeTo SeniSvnebi sxdo-

mis oqmTan dakavSirebiT da ra va-

debSi?

_ sxdomis oqmze xelmoweri-

dan 3 dRis vadaSi mxareebsa da

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bis Sesaxeb (samoqalaqo saproce-

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* * *

_ SeiZleba Tu ara daqorwine-

buli piris Svilad ayvana?

_ Svilad ayvana SeiZleba ara

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lia meuRlis araqmediTunariano-

bis an imis gamo, rom misi sacxov-

rebeli adgili ucnobia.

* * *

_ var mopasuxe. samwuxarod,

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lis mixedviT, sarCeli iuri-

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piris adgilsamyoflis mixed-

viT.

* * *

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misi ukanaskneli sacxovrebeli ad-

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re mivxvdi, rom raRac

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di. Ggaviare konsulta-

cia erT-erT cnobil pa-

rafsiqologTan, miviRe

sakmao informacia aurisa

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diagnozs vsvamdi da mis

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momavalsac vsazRvravdi.

_ gyavT moZRvari da

Tu icis man Tqveni Tvi-

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awyobs prezidents, radgan igi

kudis mouqnevlad ar wava.

Aaseve: iqneba biZina ivaniSvilis

likvidaciis mcdeloba, magram

gadarCeba. dros da adgils ar

miCvenebs.

_ TviTon nacionalebis gun-

dSi Sinaganad ra situacia

Cans?

_ nacionalebSi axlo moma-

valSi vxedav did Sejaxebas.

ratomRac meCvena axalaiebisa

da koduebis didi dapirispire-

ba, rac saaSkaraozec gamova da

situacia Zalian daiZabeba. xil-

vidan da auridan gamomdinare,

maTgan modis sisastike, ulmo-

beloba.

didi sartyma modis dasav-

leTis mxridan. Apr vici, afxa-

zeTi vTqva Tu rogor, samegre-

loc meniSna. sisxli cota Tu

bevri, mainc unda daiRvaros.

Ddartyma provocirebulia ru-

seTis mxridan.

_ es ambebi arCevnebamde Tu

merea mosalodneli?

_ zustad ver getyviT, mag-

ram ar gamovricxav rom arCev-

nebamde Zalian daiZabos situa-

cia. ratomRac Zalian didi Si-

Si maqvs seqtembris 20 ricxvis

Semdgomi dReebisa, dakonkrete-

ba ar SemiZlia, ratom. gansa-

kuTrebiT ar momwons seqtemb-

ris bolo xuTi dRe.

oqtomberSi meniSneba kvam-

li, Sida brZola, dapirispire-

ba TviTon nacionalebSi. aseve

bevri maTgani fiqrobs ivaniS-

vils SeuerTdes, sanam droa.

_ biZina ivaniSvilis Sesaxeb

ras gvetyviT?

_ me ukve giTxariT, rom

aura marto janmrTelobaze ar

miuTiTebs. masze garemoc moqme-

debs. ivaniSvils Zalian cudi

garemo hyavs. rasakvirvelia,

arian iq erTguli, saqmiani ada-

mianebi, magram ufro met intri-

gans vxedav, cudi energia modis

maTgan. me minda vTxovo, gavaf-

rTxilo igi: mivides misTvis

ndobiT aRWurvil pirTan da

aura gaawmendinos, raTa sasike-

Tod daiZras misi saqmeebi. Se-

bindulia misi aura, ar asxivebs

ise, rogorc saWiroa.

_ rogori aura aqvs prezi-

dents?

_ Zalian gaWuWyianebuli.

biovelic gadaxrili aqvs, rac

janmrTelobis gauaresebas gana-

pirobebs. ver vityvi gamosakv-

levia-meTqi, Cemi Tqma rad unda,

ukve bevrjer iqneba gamokvleu-

li, magram me vambob Cemi xed-

viT, rasac vxedav. cud mdgoma-

reobaSi aqvs fsiqika, Tavi, u-

rologiuri gzebi da guli _

eseni arc erTi ar momwons.

_ davubrundeT dRevandelo-

bas. arCevnebis Semdgom rogor

wava movlenebi?

_ gaimarjvebs iva-

niSvili, xalxi mxars

uWers. magram me ra-

tomRac mis gverdiT

sul meniSneba poli-

tikuri figura qalis

saxiT. qali dgeba mis

gverdiT, mas igi mxa-

rs uWers. Mivani-

Svils ar surs pre-

zidentoba. iqneba

erT-erTi mniSvnelo-

vani figura politi-

kaSi, magram ara pir-

veli. prezidentobas

ki qals uTmobs, ver

getyviT vis.

_ kataklizmebi

xom araa isev mosa-

lodneli?

_ wyaldidobebi ZiriTadad,

miwisZvris talRasac vxedav,

magram regions ver dagisaxe-

lebT zustad, raRac mTebi meC-

veneba, magram sad, romeli, ver

getyviT. amas minda davamato:

unda vilocoT. bevri cudi ram

xdeba da kidev mosalodnelia

Cven qveyanaSi. sisxliT daiwyo

quTaisis parlamentis mSeneblo-

ba da sisxliT damTavrda. xara-

Coebi Camoingrao, xaraCo ki ara,

mTeli kedelia Camongreuli, av-

toqarxnis teritoriaze meCeTs

aSeneben, iqac msxverpli iyo. am-

den miniSnebas gvaZlevs ufali

da Cven yuradRebas ar vaqcevT.

Tamuna qadagiZe

`̀rrTTuullii ppeerriiooddii ddaaddggeebbaa,, SSeemmooddggoommaazzee bbeevvrrii ssiiZZnneelliiss ggaaddaallaaxxvvaa mmoouuwweevvss qqaarrTTvveellsazogadoebas. uunda vvilocoT __ es aaraa llitoni ssityvebi. llocviTzRva bbrunavso, __ nnaTqvamia~

saqarTvelos mweralTa kav-

Siri Rrma mwuxarebiT iuwyeba

mweral

gizo WeliZis

gardacvalebas da Tanaugr-

Znobs gansvenebulis ojaxs.

24 saerTo gazeTi #31 (215), 11-17.VII, 2012 w.28

cceeccxxlliiss ssttiiqqiiaaverZi - zodiaqos es niSani Semosvis ara-

ordinaruli stiliT gamoirCeva da daxvewil

tansacmelsa da aqsesuarebs aniWebs upirate-

sobas. mandilosne-

bi ufro Ria fe-

ris kabebs irCeven,

mamakacebi ki -

iseT pijaksa da

fexsacmels, rom-

lebic maT ambici-

ebs ufro warmoa-

Cens. Tumca, arc

sportul tansac-

melsa da fexsac-

melze amboben

uars.

lomi - iseve,

rogorc verZi da

mSvildosani, lo-

mic cecxlis sti-

qiis niSania, Tum-

ca Cacmis stili ufro daxvewili aqvs. lomis

mmarTveli planeta mzea, amitom, mis samosSi

oqrosferi Warbobs. uyvars tyavis tansacmeli

da aqsesuarebi (oqroTi da Zvirfasi qvebiT

gawyobili).

unda iTqvas, rom es niSani ufro met yu-

radRebas samarko niSansa da fass aqcevs, vid-

re formasa da ferebs, misi azriT, pijaki, ro-

melic Zviri Rirs, xarisxianic iqneba.

mSvildosani - miuxedavad imisa, rom am

niSniT dabadebul adamianebs aqvT saSualeba

kargad Seimoson, daxvewili gemovnebiT mainc-

damainc ver gamoirCevian. saerTod ki, mSvil-

dosnebi ufro Cacmis sportul stils amjo-

bineben da jinsSi ufro Tavisuflad grZnoben

Tavs, vidre pier kardenis kostiumSi. mSvil-

dosnebi ufro klasikur ferebs amjobineben -

TeTrs, Savs, muq lurjs da mewamuls.

mmiiwwiiss ssttiiqqiiaakuro - miwis stiqiis es niSani sasworsa

da lomTan erTad daxvewili gemovnebiT gamo-

irCeva. kuros xom planeta venera marTavs -

xelovnebis, silamazisa da esTetikis planeta.

am niSniT dabadebul mandilosnebs bevri aqse-

suari ar uyvarT da cdiloben, CacmulobaSi

bevri wvrilmani ar iyos.

es niSani gazafxulis ferebs aniWebs upi-

ratesobas - mwvanes, Ria lurjsa da cisfers,

Tumca, arc TeTrze ambobs uars.

qalwuli - samossa da mis fers did yu-

radRebas aqcevs. Tumca metad praqtikulia da

Tu kurosTvis, lomisTvis an Txis rqisTvis

“dolCe da gabana” bevrs niSnavs, misTvis es

marka araferia. yuradReba detalebze gadaaqvs

da SesaZloa, aqsesuarebiT ise gemovnebianad

morTos tansacmeli, rom imave “dolCe da ga-

banas” samoss arafriT Camouvardebodes. Tu

vinmes Savisa da

TeTris kombina-

cia uxdeba, es

swored qalwu-

lia.

Txis rqa -

mas, mTavaria,

saSualeba hqon-

des da pirda-

pir parizisa da

milanis modis

saxlebs mia-

kiTxavs da cno-

bil dizaine-

rebs eqskluzi-

ur samoss daam-

z a d e b i n e b s .

mkacr formebsa da ferebs irCevs. iSviaTad na-

xavT SortSi an sportul fexsacmelSi ga-

mowyobils. aqsesuarebs iSviaTad an arasdros

xmarobs. moswons priala Savi, nacrisferi,

kremisferi, yavisferi.

hhaaeerriiss ssttiiqqiiaatyupebi - is mxiaruli adamiania, uyvars

mkveTri ferebi, mamakacebs - TeTri Sarvali,

mandilosnebs ki - dekolte da Caxsnili qve-

da bolo, Tumca, arc Sarvalze amboben uars.

tyupebi ar cdilobs Zvirad Rirebuli tansac-

meli hqondes (mas urCevnia, rom SeiZinos bev-

ri da iafi, vid-

re cota da Zvi-

riani).

Tumca yovel-

Tvis kargad (hae-

rovnad) gamoiyu-

reba. ferebidan

upiratesobas mx-

iarul ferebs

aniWebs - narin-

jisfers, vercx-

lisfers.

saswori - is yovelTvis axalgazrdul

stils irCevs (Tundac, asakovani iyos). misi

aqsesuarebi brwyinvalea, saswori-qali faifu-

ris ulamazes Tojinas hgavs, saswori-mamakaci

ki namdvili dendia. am niSans lurji, for-

Toxlisferi da cisferi uxdeba.

merwyuli - am niSans xiblavs yvelafe-

ri “mkveTri”, originaluri da eqstravagantu-

ri. Tumca, Tu erTi Sarvali an sviteri amoi-

Cema, SesaZloa, mTeli wlis ganmavlobaSi ata-

ros. ferTa Sexamebac aratradiciuli da uC-

veulo icis, ase, rom Znelia gansazRvro, ro-

mel fers aniWebs upiratesobas.

wwyylliiss ssttiiqqiiaakirCxibi - es niSani maincdamainc did yu-

radRebas ar aqcevs samoss da mis fers, rad-

gan is ufro

fulis dagrove-

bazea aqcentire-

buli, amitom,

cdilobs, rac

SeiZleba iafad

Caicvas. mas aqvs

“gamosasvleli”

tansacmeli, ro-

melsac didi

rudunebiT ina-

xavs. wlebis ma-

tebasTan erTad

ufro ixveweba

da Semdeg ufro

aqcevs yuradRe-

bas Cacmas, Torem axalgazrdobaSi amaze TiT-

qmis ar fiqrobs.

mas Zalian uxdeba mwvane, Savi, muqi yviTe-

li da vercxlisferi.

morieli - mas boboqari xasiaTi aqvs da

cdilobs CacmulobaSic gamomwvevi da mistiku-

ri Strixebi Seitanos, erideba tansacmelsa

da fexsacmelSi “didi fulis” daxarjvas. fe-

rebidan irCevs - mewamuls, Sindisfers, Savsa

da melnisfers.

Tevzebi - es niSani “CarCoSi” ar jdeba

da Tavisuflad SeuZlia, yvelanairi stilis

samosi moirgos. Tumca es imas ar niSnavs, rom

modas aris ayolili. ubralod, isini ise ari-

an sakuTar warmosaxvaSi “Caflulni”, rom nak-

lebi dro rCebaT ifiqron, ra unda Caicvan.

Tevzis niSniT dabadebulni ufro lurj fers

aniWeben upiratesobas.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

Cacmis stili da zodiaqos niSnebi

sami sityvidan erTi

T a v s a t e x i

m i l o c v a`saerTo gazeTis~ Jurnalsits iirriinneeiirriinnee

ggooggoossaaSSvviillssggooggoossaaSSvviillss vulocavT dabadebisdRes. vusurvebT janmrTelobas, BDBi-

rBs, sixaruls. imravle da ixareSens monatrebul SvilTan beqasTan dasayvarel SviliSvilebTan erTad.

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