What do you want? - Actuarial Society of South Africa...WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU RETIRE?...

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What do you want? Managing risks for better outcomes when you retire Warren Matthysen

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What do you want?Managing risks for better outcomes when you retire

Warren Matthysen

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WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU RETIRE?

• Association of Savings And Investment South Africa (ASISA) – 30 June 2017

• R57.3bn invested in Living Annuity products – new investments

• R5.3bn invested in Conventional Annuities – new investments

• Why is more than 90% being invested in Living Annuity products?

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L IVING ANNUITIES02

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WANT?

CONTROL

INVESTMENT CHOICEINCOME/DRAW DOWN

FLEXIBILITY

LEGACY ON DEATH

NEED?

UNCERTAIN

BENEFITS?

OWNERSHIP EASY TO UNDERSTAND

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WHAT ARE YOU BUYING? INCOME? R1,000,00003

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

LA Income (Max IDDR)

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WHAT ARE YOU BUYING? INCOME? R1,000,00003

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

LA Income (Max IDDR)

Start income R175,000 paMax Draw Down at Age 65

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WHAT ARE YOU BUYING? INCOME? R1,000,00003

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

LA Income (Max IDDR) LA Income (7.5% IDDR)

Start income R75,000 paMax Draw Down at Age 80 (61%)

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WHAT ARE YOU BUYING? INCOME? R1,000,00003

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

LA Income (Max IDDR) LA Income (7.5% IDDR) LA Income (6% IDDR)

Start income R60,000 paMax Draw Down at Age 93 (15%)

IDDR: Initial Draw Down Rate

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WHAT ARE YOU BUYING? INCOME?03

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) LA Income (Max IDDR) LA Income (7.5% IDDR) LA Income (6% IDDR)

Start income R51,982 pa

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YOU ARE ALSO BUYING A DEATH BENEFIT?04

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Living Annuity Death Benefit Progression

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YOU ARE ALSO BUYING A DEATH BENEFIT?04

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YOU ARE ALSO BUYING A DEATH BENEFIT?04

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Living Annuity Death Benefit Progression

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YOU ARE ALSO BUYING A DEATH BENEFIT?04

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Living Annuity Death Benefit Progression

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YOU ARE ALSO BUYING A DEATH BENEFIT?04

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Living Annuity Death Benefit Progression

Death Benefit (MEIDDR) LA Death (Max IDDR) LA Death (7.5% IDDR) LA Death (6% IDDR)

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DO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE INVESTING IN?

IF WE BIFURCATE INTO COMPONENT PARTS

AND REPLICATE EXPECTED BENEFITS

WE CAN PLACE A VALUE ON EACH COMPONENT TO

POTENTIALLY UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER

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VALUE OF INCOME BENEFIT?06

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR)

Start income R51,982 paPV E[Income] R570,599

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VALUE OF INCOME BENEFIT?06

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) LA Income (6% IDDR)

Start income R60,000 paMax Draw Down at Age 93 (15%)PV E[Income] R655,881

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VALUE OF INCOME BENEFIT?06

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) LA Income (7.5% IDDR) LA Income (6% IDDR)

Start income R75,000 paMax Draw Down at Age 80 (61%)PV E[Income] R761,693

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VALUE OF INCOME BENEFIT?06

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Living Annuity Income Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) LA Income (Max IDDR) LA Income (7.5% IDDR) LA Income (6% IDDR)

Start income R175,000 paMax Draw Down at Age 65 (100%)PV E[Income] R875,500

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ALTERNATIVE BENEFIT DESIGN

1. Lump Sum Death Benefit of R1,000,000 increasing at 6% pa for 10 years

2. Lump Sum Death Benefit of R1,000,000 for 10 years

3. Lump Sum Death Benefit of R1,000,000 decreasing by R100,000 over

10 years

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DEATH – 10 YEARS, R1m INCREASING AT 6% pa08

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Death Benefit 1 (10 year, R1m Increasing Death)

PV E[Death] R298,819

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DEATH – 10 YEARS, R1m INCREASING AT 6% pa08

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 1 (10 year, R1m Increasing Death)

PA Death Benefit 1 (10 year, R1m Increasing Death)

PA Start income R63,878 pa23% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R701,181

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DEATH – 10 YEARS, R1m INCREASING AT 6% pa08

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 1 (10 year, R1m Increasing Death)

LA Income Benefit 1 PA Death Benefit 1 (10 year, R1m Increasing Death)

LA Death Benefit 1

PA Start income R63,878 pa23% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R701,181

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LA Start income R63,878 paPV E[Income] R690,877Max Draw Down at age 88 (31%)

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DEATH BENEFIT – R1m FOR 10 YEARS09

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Death Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death)

PV E[Death] R220,029

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DEATH BENEFIT – R1m FOR 10 YEARS09

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death) PA Death Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death)

PA Start income R71,056 pa37% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R779,971

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DEATH BENEFIT – R1m FOR 10 YEARS09

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death)

LA Income Benefit 2 PA Death Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death)

LA Death Benefit 2

PA Start income R71,056 pa37% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R779,971

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DEATH BENEFIT – R1m FOR 10 YEARS09

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death)

LA Income Benefit 2 PA Death Benefit 2 (10-year, R1m Death)

LA Death Benefit 2

LA Start income R71,056 paPV E[Income] R740,894Max Draw Down at age 83 (50%)

PA Start income R71,056 pa37% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R779,971

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DEATH BENEFIT – 10 YEARS, R1m DECREASING BY R100k pa10

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Death Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

PV E[Death] R109,519

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DEATH BENEFIT – 10 YEARS, R1m DECREASING BY R100k pa10

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

PA Death Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

PA Start income R81,124 pa56% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R890,481

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DEATH BENEFIT – 10 YEARS, R1m DECREASING BY R100k pa10

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

LA Income Death Benefit 3 PA Death Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

LA Death Death Benefit 3

PA Start income R81,124 pa56% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R890,481

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DEATH BENEFIT – 10 YEARS, R1m DECREASING BY R100k pa10

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Income and Death Benefit Progression

Income Benefit (MEIDDR) PA Income Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

LA Income Death Benefit 3 PA Death Benefit 3 (10-year, R1m decreasing)

LA Death Death Benefit 3

LA Start income R81,124 paPV E[Income] R786,890Max Draw Down age at 78 (68%)

PA Start income R81,124 pa56% higher than MEIDDRPV E[Income] R890,481

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CONCLUDING PERSPECTIVES

• What do you need and what do you want?• You cannot maximize your income benefit with a living annuity• Consider relative value – bifurcate living annuity benefits• We need to think about advice models for living annuities• We can potentially design better solutions

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POST RETIREMENT INVESTING