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Variable Annuity PlansAllocation of Risks in Hybrid Pension Plans
Florida GFOA Webinar SeriesJune 19, 2014
Donald E Fuerst, Senior Pension FellowAmerican Academy of Actuaries
James J. Rizzo, Senior Consultant and ActuaryGabriel, Roeder, Smith & Company
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• There has been a debate swirling around corporate and governmental employers for decades as to which is better:
– Defined benefit (DB) retirement plans, or
– Defined contribution (DC) retirement plans
• A hybrid plan is a good alternative resolution to theDC - DB debate
• But let’s defined the terms first by examining their characteristics
DB Plans and DC Plans
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• Traditional Defined Benefit (DB) plans– Benefits paid are defined by formulas and rules– Contributions by the employer are actuarially determined– Pension plans usually pay monthly pensions for life– Like the pension part of FRS– Like local police and fire pension plans– Like Social Security
• Traditional Defined Contribution (DC) plans– Employer contributions are defined by a formula– Account balance plans that credit interest equal to the actual earnings
of underlying investment assets– Like the Investment Plan part of FRS– Like 401(k) plans in the private sector– Like so-called 401(a) plans and 457 plans in the government sector
DB vs. DC Debate
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1. Individual Account Balances2. Account Interest Credited3. Investment Risk and Reward*4. Predictability of Contributions*5. Unfunded Actuarial Accrued Liability*6. Retirement Planning*7. Longevity and Other Risks*8. Benefit Skew*9. Form of Benefit*10. Portability11. Vesting12. Funded Status13. Operational Expenses*14. Education and Communication * Most important distinctions
Distinguishing Features
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DB vs. DC Comparison Core Features
(Page 1 of 2)
Individual Account Balances YesNo individual account balances, just a defined
benefit promise; pooled assets and pooled liabilities
Account Interest Credited Actual investment return of the underlying assets Not applicable
Investment Risk/Reward Borne 100% by the employee Borne 100% by the employer
Predictability of Employer
Contributions100% predictable
Much less predictable due to contribution being
subject to investment performance and demographic
experience
Unfunded Actuarial Accrued
LiabilityNone Yes, if less than 100% funded
Retirement planningUnpredictable due to primary reliance on
unpredictable investment earnings
Employees can plan on a predictable, stated (or easily
calculated) percent of pre-retirement income;
employers can design the plan toward a given
replacement of pre-retirment income
Longevity and Other Risks Borne 100% by the employee Borne 100% by the employer
Traditional Defined Contribution (DC)
Retirement Plans
Traditional Defined Benefit (DB)
Retirement Plans
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DB vs. DC Comparison Core Features
(Page 2 of 2)
Benefit SkewBenefits are skewed toward younger shorter service
employees
Benefits are skewed toward older, longer service
employees
Form of Benefit Almost always paid as a lump sumPaid as a lifetime pension with options for
survivorship
PortabilityCan be rolled over to an IRA; often not used for
retirement income
Retained and paid as a lifetime pension upon
retirement eligibility
Vesting Flexible in the design Flexible in the design
Funded Status Always 100% fundedFunding Policy determines funded status; rarely
100% funded
Operational Expenses
Higher investment-related expenses (in bps) than DB
plans due to use of mutual funds, often subsidizing
recordkeeping and communications expenses
Lower total operational expenses (in bps) than
traditional DC plans; often soft dollar rebates from
transaction costs reduce operational expenses further
Education and
Communications
Employee education meetings and materials required
for effective investment elections; often name-brand
mutual funds, online information and investment
choices; quarterly account balance statements
Autopilot, little flair and fanfare; often unappreciated
(until taken away)
Traditional Defined Contribution (DC)
Retirement Plans
Traditional Defined Benefit (DB)
Retirement Plans
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• Consider a hybrid plan as:
– An alternative to traditional DC and DB plans
– A creative solution
– Out-of-the-box thinking
Hybrid Plans
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• A hybrid plan is a single plan that has some features of a DB plan and some features of a DC plan
• An arrangement with side-by-side DB and DC plans– Two separate plans– This arrangement is not really a hybrid plan– Although some people use the term “hybrid” when describing a side-
by-side DB and DC– But consider a Toyota Prius – gasoline and electric in one car
• Two broad types of hybrid plans1. Cash Balance Plans2. Variable Annuity or Variable Benefit Plans
Hybrid Plans
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2. Variable Annuity or Variable Benefit
– “Looks” a lot like a DB plan• Lifetime pensions paid• Rewards long-service employees
– Monthly benefit amount varies (up and down) depending on certain trigger points built into the plan design
• Investment Trigger -- Benefits change or vary (up and down) depending on level of investment returns, OR
• Employer Contribution Trigger – Benefits change or vary (up and down) depending on the level of employer contributions otherwise required
Hybrid Plans
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2. Variable Annuity or Variable Benefit (continued)
– Investment Return Trigger –
• Some designs (e.g., Variable Annuity Plan) index the benefit earned for the year to retirement date using unit values based on investment returns – higher indexing for higher returns; lower indexing for lower returns.
• Other designs can change the multiplier for the current year depending on investment returns for the year - higher multipliers for higher returns; lower multipliers or zero for lower returns.
• Still other plan designs pay additional “dividends” on benefits for higher returns.
Hybrid Plans
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2. Variable Annuity or Variable Benefit (continued)
– Employer Contribution Trigger –
• The multiplier changes in order to keep the employer contribution predictably within a pre-set corridor – higher multiplier if employer contribution would be low; lower multiplier if employer contribution would be high
• Some designs can change the multiplier only for that year of trigger, while others change it retroactive to plan start date
• Some designs can retain the final average earnings concept instead of a career average (or career accumulation) earnings found in most investment trigger variable annuity hybrids or all cash balance hybrids
Hybrids Plans
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Hybrid Features
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Core Features
(Page 1 of 4)Cash Balance Variable Benefit
Individual Account Balances Yes YesSome designs have individual annuity
balances; some do not
No individual account
balances, just a defined
benefit promise; pooled assets
and pooled liabilities
Account Interest CreditedActual investment
return of the underlying
assets
Older designs apply a fixed rate or tied
to short-term yields. Alternatively, can
be partially related to actual return on
underlying assets (e.g., with smoothing,
floors and caps)
Designs with annuity balances might
index benefits to final average earnings,
while others index to CPI; and still
others can be partially related to actual
return on underlying assets
Not applicable
Investment Risk/RewardBorne 100% by the
employee
Older designs put 100% on employers;
recent designs share the risks/rewards
between employee and employer (e.g.,
fund return with floors and caps)
Some designs share the risks/rewards
between employee and employer; while
other designs put 100% of the risk on
employees.
Borne 100% by the employer
Predictability of Employer
Contributions100% predictable
Older designs are as unpredictable as
traditional DBs; recent designs that
share risk have predictability in
between traditional DBs and DCs
Less predictable than DC plans but
more predictable than traditional DB
plans
Much less predictable due to
contribution being subject to
investment performance and
demographic experience
Traditional
Defined
Contribution
(DC) Retirement
Plans
Hybrid Plan Designs Traditional Defined
Benefit (DB)
Retirement Plans
Hybrid Features
Core Features
(Page 2 of 4)Cash Balance Variable Benefit
Unfunded Actuarial Accrued
LiabilityNone Yes, if less than 100% funded Yes, if less than 100% funded Yes, if less than 100% funded
Retirement planning
Unpredictable due to
primary reliance on
unpredictable
investment earnings
Some designs have ending cash
balances that depend only on future
salary and are just as predictable as DB
plans; but most designs depend mostly
or partially on unpredictable
investment returns or yields
Some designs depend mostly or
partially on unpredictable investment
returns, while others have future
benefits that fall within a predictable
minimum and maximum
Employees can plan on a
predictable, stated (or easily
calculated) percent of pre-
retirement income;
employers can design the
plan toward a given
replacement of pre-retirment
income
Longevity and Other RisksBorne 100% by the
employee
Almost always borne 100% by the
employeeBorne 100% by the employer Borne 100% by the employer
Benefit SkewBenefits are skewed
toward younger shorter
service employees
Skewed toward younger, shorter
service employees
Skewed toward older, longer service
employees
Benefits are skewed toward
older, longer service
employees
Traditional
Defined
Contribution
(DC) Retirement
Plans
Hybrid Plan Designs Traditional Defined
Benefit (DB)
Retirement Plans
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Hybrid Features
Core Features
(Page 3 of 4)Cash Balance Variable Benefit
Form of BenefitAlmost always paid as a
lump sum
Almost always paid as a lump sum,
unless prevented from doing so by plan
design
Paid as a lifetime pension with options
for survivorship
Paid as a lifetime pension
with options for survivorship
Portability
Can be rolled over to an
IRA; often not used for
retirement income
Can be rolled over to an IRA; often not
used for retirement income
Retained and paid as a lifetime pension
upon retirement eligibility
Retained and paid as a
lifetime pension upon
retirement eligibility
Vesting Flexible in the design Flexible in the design Flexible in the design Flexible in the design
Funded Status Always 100% fundedFunding Policy determines funded
status
Funding Policy determines funded
status
Funding Policy determines
funded status; rarely 100%
funded
Operational Expenses
Higher investment-
related expenses (in bps)
than DB plans due to
use of mutual funds,
often subsidizing
recordkeeping and
communications
expenses
Lower total operational expenses (in
bps) than traditional DC plans;
approximately same as traditional DB
plans
Lower total operational expenses (in
bps) than traditional DC plans;
approximately same as traditional DB
plans
Lower total operational
expenses (in bps) than
traditional DC plans; often
soft dollar rebates from
transaction costs reduce
operational expenses further
Traditional
Defined
Contribution
(DC) Retirement
Plans
Hybrid Plan Designs Traditional Defined
Benefit (DB)
Retirement Plans
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Hybrid Features
Core Features
(Page 4 of 4)Cash Balance Variable Benefit
Education and
Communications
Employee education
meetings and materials
required for effective
investment elections;
often name-brand
mutual funds, online
information and
investment choices;
quarterly account
balance statements
Minimal employee communications,
but depending on method of crediting
interest; quarterly or annual account
balance statements
Employee education is needed for how
accrual multipliers might vary
Autopilot, little flair and
fanfare; often unappreciated
(until taken away)
Traditional
Defined
Contribution
(DC) Retirement
Plans
Hybrid Plan Designs Traditional Defined
Benefit (DB)
Retirement Plans
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• Primary motivations for moving from DB to DC plans1. “The corporate world has moved from DB to DC plans.”2. “ We got rid of our DB plan where I work(ed).”3. “I never had a DB plan; neither should they.”4. “ The conservative think-tanks and legislatively active organizations
say we should move to a DC plan.”5. “My political party leaders say DB plans are bad.”6. “DB plans are more dangerous than DC plans in the hands of
politicians.”7. “I don’t trust elected officials to stand up against the unions; they
often grant retroactive benefit improvements in DBs.” 8. “Employer contributions to our DB plans have become unbearably
and unreasonably high.”9. “Employer contributions need to be more predictable.”10. “Employer (taxpayers) should not bear the investment risk.”
Hybrids Plans
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• Management and elected officials sometimes START with the “position” of advocating DC plans over DB plans
• Consider moving the dialogue from “positions” to “interests” or “principles”
• Identify the underlying interests of the parties and resolve the matter with solutions and proposals:– That appeal to their “interests”, rather than– Fight their positions
Positions vs. Interests
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Variable Annuity Plan (VAP)
• A pension plan where the annual pension benefit fluctuates (both before and after retirement) with the performance of investment funds
• Advantages for the employer:– Financial predictability: stable cost, little or no unfunded
liabilities– Retention: allocates benefits to long-service employees
• Advantages for the employee:– Provides lifetime income – employee can’t outlive assets– Portable benefit, potential inflation protection
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• Career accumulation plan• Benefit credit is converted to variable annuity units at year-
end purchase price of the units• Units accumulate throughout an employee’s career
– Each year employee participates in the plan, more benefit credits are earned that are converted to “variable units” at the end of the year
• At NRD employee receives an annual retirement income based on number of “variable units” accumulated
• Annual income in retirement for each unit is the unit value at the end of the previous year
Variable Annuity Plan
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Variable Annuity Plan
• Basic benefit formula is a traditional career average formula– Example: 1% of pay– Formula is applied to actual pay each year– Benefit is annual annuity at normal retirement age
• Participant earns $50,000• Participant accrues a benefit = $500/year payable at 65
• The benefit is used to “buy” variable units at year-end unit value– Example: Variable unit value = $10– $500 benefit buys 50 variable units
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Variable Annuity PlanA variable unit is the right to an annual pension benefit equal to theunit value beginning at NRD• Participant’s 50 units would generate $500/year at retirement if the unit value
remains $10– If unit value increases to $11, 50 units would generate $550/year at
retirement– If unit value decreases to $9, 50 units would generate $450/year at
retirement • If unit value increases by average 2%/ year for 25 years
– Unit value is $16.41 when Participant retires at age 65– 50 variable units earned when age 40 then generate $820.50 annual
pension income• Unit value can continue to fluctuate during retirement
– If the value falls 1% to $16.25 during first year of retirement, benefit in year 2 will decline to $812.50
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Units earned 50 45 48 43 45
Accumulated units 50 95 143 186 231
End-of-year unit value $10.00 $11.00 $10.50 $11.50 $11.00
Year-end pension income
$500 $1,045 $1,502 $2,139 $2,541
Example
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Variable Annuity PlanUnit Value Determination
• Initial unit value can be any value• Unit value fluctuates annually based on the actual return of the pension
fund (for the previous year) relative to a benchmark rate called the hurdle rate
• If assets earn more than hurdle rate, unit values are increased
• If assets earn less than hurdle rate, unit values are decreased
• For example, if hurdle is 5% and assets earn 8% (or 2%), unit values increase (or decrease) approximately 3%
• VAP is equivalent to the plan sponsor funding a fixed annuity determined at an interest rate equal to the hurdle rate– Investment experience above or below the hurdle rate is passed
through to the participant through a change in the unit value
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Variable Annuity PlanUnit Value Changes
Formula for Unit Value to pass all investment gains or losses to participant is:
UVt = UVt-1 x (1 + it) / (1 + h)
where it is the actual return during the period t-1 to t and h is the hurdle rate
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Variable Annuity PlanHurdle Rate
• The hurdle rate is a plan provision, not an actuarial assumption, although sometimes referred to as assumed interest rate or AIR
• Hurdle rate is a critical component of plan design– Higher rate lowers plan costs, but increases the
likelihood that participants’ benefits will decrease– Lower rate increases plan costs, but increases the
likelihood that participants’ benefits will increase– Setting the hurdle rate at (or a little above) a reasonable
risk-free rate of return enhances certain features• Minimum permissible hurdle rate is 3%• Plans with hurdle rate < 5% are subject to statutory
hybrid rules (private sector concern)
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Service Cost Changes with Hurdle Rate
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Can Retirees Handle Volatility?
• Most common objection to VAP is that “retirees need guaranteed benefits, cannot accept declines”
• Actual experience of VAPs tells a different story
• Consider actual VAP experience for 50+ years
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Variable Annuity Unit Value(1961-2013)
Back to back declines three times in 50 years:1973-74: 32% Recovered 92% in 2 years, 100% in 62000-01: 18% Recovered 100% in 2 years2008-09: 17% Recovered fully in 2013
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Variable Annuity Unit ValueEffect of Changing AIR
Back to back declines three times in 50 years:1973-74: 34% Recovered 88% in 2 years, 100% in 82000-01: 20% Recovered 100% in 3 years2008-09: 19% Still 4% under peak value
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Variable Annuity Plan
VAPs compare favorably to traditional DB plans in several respects:• Benefits are comparable to Final Average Pay plans• Benefits are more portable than Final Average Pay plans• Benefits provide potential inflation protection• Variations of VAP offer participant ability to manage risk exposure
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Comparison to Final Pay PlanFAP Benefit Formula = 1% of Final Average Pay for each year of serviceRSP Benefit Formula = 1% of Annual Pay, Assumed Interest Rate = 4%Average pay increases over career = 3%Retire at 65 with 30 years ServiceBenefit expressed as Percent of Final Average Pay
Average Investment Return FAP Benefit Variable Benefit
5% 30% 24.3%
6% 30% 27.7%
7% 30% 31.8%
8% 30% 36.7%
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Variable Annuity Plan Portability
Variable units continue to appreciate for terminated vested participants• Benefits continue to grow with investment experience, unlike traditional
pension benefits• Participants are not harmed by changing employment as in a final pay plan• Benefits are not paid in lump sum or rollover, thus preventing leakage• EBRI study indicates as much as 60% of early distributions are not rolled over
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Variable Annuity PlanPortability
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Purchasing Power of Level Benefit of $1000 Per Month with 2.5% Inflation
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Variable Benefit versus Purchasing Power(1961-2012)
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Purchasing power based on CPI-U from BLS
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Other Design Issues
• Adjustments for early retirement or optional forms of payment can be made by adjusting the number of units– Similar to adjustments made to traditional plan
benefits for these items– Can subsidize early retirement, if desired
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Conflict in Variable Benefit Plan
• Young participants want to see growth in benefit values, temporary volatility is of no concern
• Retired participants may want stability of current income
• Trustees are fiduciaries, investing assets on behalf of all participants
• But participants have conflicting interests• What are fiduciaries to do?
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Variable Annuity Plan Investments
Each unit represents a sub-account of the pension trust • Stable Units: High-quality short-
to-intermediate term fixed income securities.
• Diversified Units: Generally, an actively managed fund where plan sponsor selects the investment managers and asset allocation. Higher potential return than Stable Shares but more volatile.
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Variable Annuity PlanParticipant choice is possible
Each unit fund represents a sub-account of the pension trust • Stable units: High-quality
short-to-intermediate term fixed income securities.
• Equity units: 100% equity investment, actively managed or an index fund.
• Diversified units: Generally, an actively managed fund where plan sponsor selects the investment managers and asset allocation. Less risky than Equity units.
Other variations are possible: - More/less classes of shares - Different classes of shares (e.g. Lifecycle shares)
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Participant Choice• Employees can structure the risk/reward of their
retirement portfolio based on their own circumstances and tolerance levels
• Participants elect once per year which class(es) of shares they wish to purchase at year-end
• Could purchase just one type of share or all three share classes
• Also can exchange or reallocate any shares previously earned
• Statement sent in first quarter of following year shows the results of the share purchase and/or exchanges
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How Do You Get There?• Conversion from existing DB Plan
– Simplest approach is to freeze current plan benefits• VAP unit balance begins at zero and grows• Ultimate retirement benefit is: frozen old-plan benefit plus
benefit from RSP• Risk due to the old frozen plan benefits still exists under
this approach– Other approaches, including converting accrued
benefits, are possible • Can significantly reduce the risk associated with prior
accrued benefits quickly and cost effectively
• Integrating VAP into existing DC Plans as payment form
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Conversion Less Harmful to Older Workers
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Variable Annuity PlanAsset Driven Liabilities
• In traditional DB plans, matching assets and liabilities requires continual rebalancing of portfolio
• In VAP, assets and liabilities are always matched• Benefits are portable• Design can mimic final pay benefits• Potential for purchasing power protection in
retirement• Unfunded liabilities (surpluses) are less likely
– Arise from demographic experience– Usually smaller in magnitude
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• Driving principles/interests from City Council
– Roll back future benefits to bend the cost curve soon
– Future benefit levels should be adequate and competitive
– Share risks between employees and employer
– Make employer contributions more predictable
Case Study: City of Ocala GE
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• Bend the expected cost curve
– Changing benefits for new hires alone will take a very long time to bend the expected cost curve
• So putting in a DC plan for new hires alone won’t do much soon enough• Putting in a new DB formula for new hires alone won’t do much either
– Must change benefits for all employees (current and new) in order to bend the expected cost curve in a reasonably short time
• Either all in a DC or• All in a less generous benefit structure for future service
Case Study
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• Bend the expected cost curve (continued)
– Not permitted to roll back future benefits earned by current active employees eligible for normal retirement
– Not permitted to roll back benefits retroactively, i.e.:• Not permitted to cut benefits for current retirees and beneficiaries • Not permitted to cut accrued benefits below what active employee have earned so
far
Case Study
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• Bending the expected cost curve (continued)
– Freeze the benefits for current actives at what they earned as of the transition date; call it Part A
– Start the new and less generous benefit structure for future service; call it part B
– Final benefit is Part A plus Part B
– Grandfather current active employees within five years of Normal Retirement Date
Case Study
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• Make the employer contribution more predictable . . .
• By sharing the risk with employees.– Moving to a DC plan for new hires alone will take a very long time to
share the risk– Not permitted to share the risk with current retirees or with current
active employees eligible for normal retirement– Not permitted to share the risk on benefits earned at transition
• Part B benefit structure is the hybrid plan design– Part B monthly projected benefit can go up or down, depending on
the trigger mechanism (total contributions), thereby sharing the risk and reward
– Part A monthly benefit is fixed and frozen at the transition date
Case Study
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Case Study
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Case Study
• Without a VBH feature in the legacy DB plan -- It will take over 40 years to reach a 50-50 risk-sharing with employees; in 20 years City/taxpayers still bear 85% of investment risk
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Closed DB w/ VBH, plus DC for New Hires Closed DB w/o VBH, plus DC for New Hires
City/taxpayers Bear 100% Risk
Employees Bear 100% Risk
• Consider DC, cash balance, variable annuity plans– Implemented for benefits earned in the future– Even if covering current employees’ future service and new hires
• Most do nothing about the massive legacy obligations of Part A– No risk sharing– Costs still unpredictable
• Ocala’s variable benefit hybrid design did– The employer and employee share the risks (for the legacy Part A)– The total costs (for Part A and Part B combined) are more predictable
Case Study
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• Part B starts out with a 1.6% multiplier, like FRS Regular Class
– Multiplier can go up, but not above a cap of 2.55% and
– Multiplier can go down, but not below a floor of 1.0% --
– Depending on the level of the actuarially required contribution.
– As long as the actuarially determined contribution (ADC) stays within a pre-set employer contribution budget, the multiplier remains unchanged; improves predictability
– Makes the employer contribution more predictable
Case Study
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• If the ADC were to go above the top of the budget corridor:– The multiplier is reduced in order to keep the ADC inside the corridor– Employee bears the risk above the corridor.
• If the ADC were to go below the bottom of the budget corridor:– The multiplier is increased in order to keep the ADC inside the
corridor– Employee reaps the reward below the corridor
• Makes the employer contribution more predictable by sharing the risk (and reward) with the employee
Case Study
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With 8% DC Plan for New HiresPositive and Negative Stresses at Year 11 Outside the VBH Corridor
Corridor City Alternative 2
Stress Test on City Alternative 2 Better than Expected Asset Returns on City Alternative 2
Case Study
Witha VBHFeature:
BudgetCorridor
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• Circular 230 Notice: Pursuant to regulations issued by the IRS, to the extent this presentation concerns tax matters, it is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or (ii) marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matter addressed within. Each taxpayer should seek advice based on the individual’s circumstances from an independent tax advisor.
• This presentation shall not be construed to provide tax advice, legal advice or investment advice.
• Readers are cautioned to examine original source materials and to consult with subject matter experts before making decisions related to the subject matter of this presentation.
• This presentation is not an expression of the views of FGFOA, or Gabriel, Roeder, Smith & Company, or the American Academy of Actuaries and may not even express the views of the speakers.
Disclaimers
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Contact InformationDonald E Fuerst, Senior Pension Fellow
American Academy of Actuaries202-785-7871
James J. Rizzo, Senior Consultant and ActuaryGabriel, Roeder, Smith & Company
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