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Technical Committee on Incinerators and Waste Handling Systems

Date: April 27, 2017

To: Technical Committee on Incinerators and Waste Handling Systems

From: Eric Nette, Staff Liaison/Engineer

Re: Agenda Package – NFPA 82 First Draft Meeting –May 10-11, 2017

(F2018)

Enclosed is the agenda package for the Wednesday and Thursday, May 10-11, 2017

NFPA 82 First Draft Meeting. Please ensure that you have reviewed the public input and

the other agenda items in advance to prepare for discussion. The agenda (which includes

the public inputs) will be posted on the document information pages to

www.nfpa.org/82next

Some items to have available during the meeting include:

Agenda package with public input

A copy of NFPA 82 (visit the NFPA 82 Document information pages for your

free committee copy)

Any previous copies of the technical committees standard

A laptop

Optional items that are sometimes useful include:

Review of NFPA’s Process, www.nfpa.org/regs

If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to reach me at (617) 984-7434 or

by e-mail at [email protected]. I look forward to our meeting to begin the revision cycle!

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http://www.nfpa.org/82next

http://www.nfpa.org/regs

NFPA 82 F2018 First Draft Meeting May 10-11, 2017

Teleconference

1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. (Eastern Time Zone)

To Join the Meeting: http://nfpa.adobeconnect.com/nette/

US (Toll Free): 1-866-398-2885

Participant Code: 691847

1. Meeting opening, introduction and attendance

2. Approval of Second Draft Meeting Minutes of April 3, 2013 (Attachment A.

April 3, 2013 Meeting Minutes).

3. Chair's remarks, Brian Polk

4. Staff Liaison update:

a. F2018 Schedule (Attachment B. F2018 Revision Cycle)

b. Committee Membership Update (Attachment C. ICN-AAA

Membership)

c. Standards Process Review (Attachment D. NFPA Process – Quick

Reference Guide)

5. Old/New Business

a. Public Input for NFPA 82 (Attachment E. NFPA 82 - F2018 Public

Input) and development of First Revisions

6. Other business

7. Date/Location of Next Meeting. (Second Draft Meeting between December 1,

2018 and May 17, 2018)

8. Adjournment (May 11)

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Attachment A:

April 3, 2013 Meeting

Minutes

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Date: April 17, 2013

To: Technical Committee on Incinerators and Waste Handling Systems

From: Derek Duval, Staff Liaison/Fire Protection Engineer

Re: NFPA 82 Second Draft Meeting Minutes – April 2013

Enclosed are the meeting minutes from the April 3, 2013 NFPA 82 Second Draft meeting in Quincy, MA. Please feel free to bring any substantive incorrect items to my attention.

The next meeting will be held via teleconference June 24, 2013. Details will follow as they become available.

The Committee actions will be balloted before June 16, 2013. The Second Draft Report will be posted no later than July 19, 2013. Comments for must be submitted no later than May 3, 2013.If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to reach me at (617) 984-7434 or by e-mail at [email protected].

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ICN-AAA Page 2Second Draft Minutes, NFPA 82 – April 2013


Minutes of MeetingNFPA Headquaters

1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

April 3, 2013

I. Attendance:Principal Members/Staff:Brian Polk, Chair, North Carolina Division of Waste Management, NCDerek Duval, NFPA, MA

Chad Beebe, American Society for Healthcare, WA (via telephone)Michael Bracken, Wilkinson Hi-Rise, LLC, FL (via telephone)Sharon Gilyeat, Koffel Associates, Inc, MD

Alternate Members and Guests:Joanne Goyette, NFPA, MA

II. Meeting Minutes:1. Call to order. The meeting was called to order at 8:08 a.m. on April 3, 2013. The Chair, Brian

Polk, welcomed the Technical Committee (TC) members and guests to the meeting.

2. Self-Introductions. The TC members and guests introduced themselves and identified their affiliations.

3. Approval of the Minutes. The minutes of the October 2010 Report of Comments (ROC) meeting were approved as written.

4. Staff Liaison Report. The staff liaison made a brief presentation on NFPA policies and procedures, the new standards process, reviewed the document revision timeline (Attachment A, F2013 Revision Cycle), and updated the TC on membership changes.

5. New Business:

A. NFPA 82. The Committee reviewed and responded all the public comments (7). The Committee developed Second Revisions. The public comments, second revisions and committee statements will be posted in the Second Revision Report and Draft to be posted no later than July 19, 2013. The Second Draft Report and Draft will be available via www.nfpa.org/82.

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6. Other Business. A. Michael Bracken – Develop requirements for waste compactors located indoors,

but has access from a ground floor for the next revision.B. Chad Beebe – Review the NFPA 80 requirements for similarities and conflicts for

the TC to review.

7. Next Meeting. The next meeting will be a conference call to discuss and review the NFPA 80 requirements in relation to NFPA 82.

8. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 12:09 p.m. April 3, 2013.

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ATTACHMENT ANFPA 82 Revision Cycle

Fall 2014

NFPA 82, Revision Cycle F2013Important Dates for the Cycle:

Posting of Second Draft July 19, 2013

Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) August 23, 2013

Issuance of Consent Standard November 12, 2013

NFPA Annual Meeting with CAMs (Certified Amending Motions) June 9-12, 2014

Issuance of Standard with CAMs August 14, 2014

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Attachment B:

F2018 Revision Cycle

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Fall 2018 Revision Cycle

Process Stage Process Step Dates for TCDates for TC

with CC

Public Input Stage (First Draft)

Public Input Closing Date* 1/05/2017 1/05/2017

Final Date for TC First Draft Meeting 6/15/2017 3/16/2017

Posting of First Draft and TC Ballot 8/03/2017 4/27/2017

Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot 8/24/2017 5/18/2017

Final date for Receipt of TC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 8/31/2017 5/25/2017

Posting of First Draft for CC Meeting 6/01/2017

Final date for CC First Draft Meeting 7/13/2017

Posting of First Draft and CC Ballot 8/03/2017

Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot 8/24/2017

Final date for Receipt of CC First Draft ballot ‐ recirc 8/31/2017

Post First Draft Report for Public Comment 9/07/2017 9/07/2017

Comment Stage (Second Draft)

Public Comment Closing Date* 11/16/2017 11/16/2017

Notice Published on Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)Note: Date varies and determined via TC ballot.

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards (Standards that received no Comments)

Final date for TC Second Draft Meeting 5/17/2018 2/08/2018

Posting of Second Draft and TC Ballot 6/28/2018 3/22/2018

Final date for Receipt of TC Second Draft ballot 7/19/2018 4/12/2018

Final date for receipt of TC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 7/26/2018 4/19/2018

Posting of Second Draft for CC Meeting 4/26/2018

Final date for CC Second Draft Meeting 6/07/2018

Posting of Second Draft for CC Ballot 6/28/2018

Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot 7/19/2018

Final date for Receipt of CC Second Draft ballot ‐ recirc 7/26/2018

Post Second Draft Report for NITMAM Review 8/02/2018 8/02/2018

Tech Session Preparation (&

Issuance)

Notice of Intent to Make a Motion (NITMAM) Closing Date 8/30/2018 8/30/2018

Posting of Certified Amending Motions (CAMs) and Consent Standards 10/11/2018 10/11/2018

Appeal Closing Date for Consent Standards 10/26/2018 10/26/2018

SC Issuance Date for Consent Standards 11/05/2018 11/05/2018

Tech Session Association Meeting for Standards with CAMs 6/20/2019 6/20/2019

Appeals and Issuance

Appeal Closing Date for Standards with CAMs 7/10/2019 7/10/2019

SC Issuance Date for Standards with CAMs 8/07/2019 8/07/2019

TC = Technical Committee or PanelCC = Correlating Committee

As of 1/27/2017

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NFPA 82 Revision Cycle KEY DATES

Fall 2018

NFPA 82 F2018 [ICN-AAA]

Important Dates For the Cycle:

Public Input Closing January 5, 2017 (DONE)

Posting of First Draft September 7, 2017

Public Comment Closing November 16, 2017

Posting of Second Draft August 2, 2018

Notice of Intent to Make Motion (NITMAM) August 30, 2018

Issuance of Consent Standard November 5, 2018 (published bit later)

NFPA Annual Meeting with CAMs June 20, 2018

Issuance of Standard – with CAMs August 7, 2019 (published bit later)

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Attachment C:

ICN-AAA Committee

Membership

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Address List No PhoneIncinerators and Waste Handling Systems ICN-AAA

Eric Nette04/26/2017

ICN-AAA

Brian N. Polk

ChairNorth Carolina Division of Waste Management217 West Jones StreetRaleigh, NC 27603

E 7/23/2008ICN-AAA

Chad E. Beebe

PrincipalASHE - AHAPO Box 5756Lacey, WA 98509-5756

U 03/05/2012

ICN-AAA

Hadi C. Boustani

PrincipalCHUTES International33 Industrial Park DriveWaldorf, MD 20602

IM 08/03/2016ICN-AAA

Michael F. Bracken

PrincipalWilkinson Hi-Rise, LLC3001 Greene StreetHollywood, FL 33020

M 7/17/1998

ICN-AAA

James R Buchanan

PrincipalBuchanan Company Inc.5772 Bolsa Avenue, Suite 120Huntington Beach, CA 92649

IM 10/28/2014ICN-AAA

Sharon S. Gilyeat

PrincipalKoffel Associates, Inc.2015 Ayrsley Town Blvd.Suite 202Charlotte, NC 28273Alternate: Sarina L. Hart

SE 4/28/2000

ICN-AAA

Michael Luft

PrincipalVan-Packer Company, Inc.302 Mill StreetPO Box 307Buda, IL 61314-9539

M 12/08/2015ICN-AAA

James S. Peterkin

PrincipalTLC EngineeringSenior Fire Protection Engineer18 Kline DriveThornton, PA 19373

SE 08/03/2016

ICN-AAA

Neil P. Wu

PrincipalExponent, Inc.17000 Science Drive, Suite 200Bowie, MD 20715-4427

SE 7/26/2007ICN-AAA

Sarina L. Hart

AlternateKoffel Associates, Inc.8815 Centre Park Drive, Suite 200Columbia, MD 21045-2107Principal: Sharon S. Gilyeat

SE 12/08/2015

ICN-AAA

Eric Nette

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

04/16/2014

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Attachment D:

NFPA Process – Quick

Reference Guide

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New Process – Quick Reference Guide For additional information on the Regulations visit: www.nfpa.org/Regs

There are only three actions a TC can take at the First Draft (ROP)

meeting: 1. Resolve a Public Input (no change to the document) 2. Create a First Revision (change to the document) 3. Create Committee Input

Resolve Public Input (no change to the document)

TC must provide a response (Committee Statement/CS) to ALL Public Input (proposal).

CS for not doing what is suggested

Sample Motion: “I make a motion to resolve PI#_ with the following committee statement__.” Approval by meeting vote (simple majority). Not subject to Ballot.

Create a First Revision (change to the document)

TC must create a First Revision (FR) for each change they wish to make to the document, either using Public Input for the basis of the change or not using a Public Input for the basis. One or more Public Input can be considered for the FR.

All Public Input requires a response

TC can use a Public Input for basis i. Sample Motion: “I make a motion to revise section __ using PI#_ as the

basis for change.” Approval by meeting vote (simple majority) and final approval through ballot.

TC develops revision without a Public Input for basis i. Sample Motion: “I make a motion to revise section __ as follows___.”

Approval by meeting vote (simple majority) and final approval through ballot.

First Revisions require a committee statement

Committee Input

TC may create a Committee Input (CI). This replaces the old system “rejected” Committee Proposals. CIs will get printed in the report but will not be balloted or shown as a change in the draft. CIs are used to solicit public comments and/or as a placeholder for the comment stage.

i. Sample Motion: “I make a motion to create a CI with a proposed revision to section__ as follows___.” Approval by meeting vote (simple majority). Not subject to ballot.

Requires a committee statement to explain the intent of making a CI.

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Comparison to Previous Process:

PREVIOUS ACTIONS CURRENT PROCESS ACTIONS SAMPLE MOTION

Accept or any variation of Accept

(APA, APR, APP) on a public

proposal

1) Committee generates a First

Revision and Substantiation (CS)

for change

2) Committee provides response (CS)

to each PI that is associated with the

revision

1) “I make a motion to revise section __ using PI#_ as the basis for change.”

2) “ I make a motion to resolve PIs#_ through ## with the following statement__”

Rejected Public Proposal Committee provides response (CS)

to PI

“I make a motion to resolve

PI#_ with the following

committee statement__.”

Accepted Committee Proposal Committee generates a First Revision

and Substantiation (CS) for change

“I make a motion to revise

section __ as follows___.”

Committee generates a

statement for reason for change.

Rejected Committee Proposal Committee generates a Committee

Input (CI) and reason (CS) for

proposed change

“I make a motion to create a CI

with a proposed revision to

section__ as follows___.”

Committee generates a

statement for reason for CI.

Notes:

1) All meeting actions require a favorable vote of a simple majority of the members present. 2) All First Revisions will be contained in the ballot and will require a 2/3 affirmative vote to

confirm the meeting action. 3) Only the First Revisions will be balloted. PIs and CIs will be contained in the report but will

not be balloted. 4) Comments may be submitted on all PIs, FRs and CIs

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Term Comparison between Current and Old:

CURRENT TERM OLD TERM

Input Stage ROP Stage

Public Input (PI) Proposal

First Draft Meeting ROP Meeting

Committee Input Committee Proposal that Fail

Ballot

Committee Statement

(CS) Committee Statement

First Revision (FR) Committee Proposal or Accepted

Public Proposal

First Draft Report ROP

First Draft ROP Draft

Comment Stage ROC Stage

Public Comment Public Comment

Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting

Committee Comment Committee Comment that Fail

Ballot

Committee Action Committee Action

Second Revision Committee Comment or Accepted

Public Comment

Second Draft Report ROC

Second Draft ROC Draft

Note: The highlighted terms are the ones that will be most applicable at the First Draft Meeting.

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Attachment E:

NFPA 82 – F2018 Public

Input

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Public Input No. 15-NFPA 82-2016 [ Section No. 2.2 ]

2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems,2013 2016 edition.

NFPA 31, Standard for the Installation of Oil-Burning Equipment,2011 2016 edition.

NFPA 54, National Fuel Gas Code,2012 2015 edition.

NFPA 58, Liquefied Petroleum Gas Code,2014 2017 edition.

NFPA 70® , National Electrical Code®,2014 2017 edition.

NFPA 80, Standard for Fire Doors and Other Opening Protectives,2013 2016 edition.

NFPA 90A, Standard for the Installation of Air-Conditioning and Ventilating Systems,20122015 edition.

NFPA 97, Standard Glossary of Terms Relating to Chimneys, Vents, and Heat-ProducingAppliances, 2003 edition.

NFPA 211, Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel–BurningAppliances,2013 2016 edition.

NFPA 259, Standard Test Method for Potential Heat of Building Materials, 2013 edition.

NFPA 5000® , Building Construction and Safety Code®,2012 2015 edition.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

General update to references. There is terminology within NFPA 82 pertaining to appliances and chimneys that is defined in NFPA 97. The addition of NFPA 97 will help consistency in the language between standards.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Michael LuftOrganization: Van-Packer Company, Inc.Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Fri Dec 16 11:14:56 EST 2016

National Fire Protection Association Report http://submittals.nfpa.org/TerraViewWeb/ContentFetcher?commentPara...

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Public Input No. 16-NFPA 82-2016 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]

2.3.1 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM C 27, Standard Classification for Fireclay and High-Alumina Refractory Brick, 1998(2008 2013 ).

ASTM C 199, Standard Test Method for Pier Test for Refractory Mortars, 1984 (2011 2016 ).


General update to current reference materials.




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2.3.1 ASTM Publications.


ASTM C 27 C27 , Standard Classification for Fireclay and High-Alumina Refractory Brick, 1998(2008 2013 ).

ASTM C 199 C199 , Standard Test Method for Pier Test for Refractory Mortars, 1984(2011 2016 ).

ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction andMaterials (2016a).


updates and addition of ASTM E119 per PI 30.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 30-NFPA 82-2017 [Chapter 4]


Submitter Full Name: Marcelo HirschlerOrganization: GBH InternationalStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Dec 22 17:20:08 EST 2016


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2.3.2 ASHRAE Publications.

American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air Conditioning Engineers, Inc., 1791 TullieCircle, N.E., Atlanta, GA 30329.

ASHRAE Handbook, — HVAC Systems and Equipment, 2008 2012 .


This proposal is updating the reference to the ASHRAE HVAC Systems and Equipment Handbook to the most recent version.


Submitter Full Name: STEVEN FERGUSONOrganization: ASHRAEStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Sep 01 14:57:01 EDT 2015


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2.3.2 ASHRAE Publications.

American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air Conditioning Engineers, Inc., 1791 TullieCircle, N.E., Atlanta, GA 30329.

ASHRAE Handbook — HVAC Systems and Equipment, 2008 2012 .


General update to reference materials.




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Public Input No. 21-NFPA 82-2016 [ New Section after 3.3.2 ]

3.3.2.1 Combustible Material.Material made of or surfaced with wood, compressed paper, plant fibers, plastics, or othermaterial that can ignite and burn, whether flameproofed or not, or whether plastered orunplastered.


Under the revised header of 3.3.2 Materials, the definition of combustible material is required. Cited definition is from NFPA 211 3.3.100.1


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 20-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 3.3.2]




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3.3.2.2 Noncombustible Material.A material that, in the form in which it is used and under the conditions anticipated, will notignite, burn, support combustion, or release flammable vapors, when subjected to fire or heat;materials that are reported as passing ASTM E136, Standard Test Method for Behavior ofMaterials in a Vertical Tube Furnace at 750°C, shall be considered noncombustible materials.


Under the revised header of 3.3.2 Materials, the definition of noncombustible material is required. Cited definition is from NFPA 211 3.3.100.2






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3.3.2 Combustible Material .

Capable of undergoing combustion.


The standard uses terms such as "combustible material" and "noncombustible material". Changing the combustible section to materials and the defining combustible and noncombustible materials under this section will add clarity to the context where such terms are used in the standard. Wording is the same as from NFPA 211 section 3.3.100, 3.3.100.1, and 3.3.100.2


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 21-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after3.3.2] Definition of Combustible Material

Public Input No. 22-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after3.3.2]

Definition of NoncombustibleMaterial




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3.3.7* Incinerator.

Equipment predominantly designed for burning solid waste An appliance or combustionchamber for the reduction, by burning, of rubbish, garbage, and other wastes .


This definition is consistent with the current definition in NFPA 211 (3.3.91) and also included in NFPA 97 (3.3.113).


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 19-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No.A.3.3.7]

Annex with further definitions of incineratorsystems




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3.3.12 Clearance.The distance between a heat-producing appliance, chimney, chimney connector, vent, ventconnector, or plenum and other surfaces.


Though there is a section on clearances in the standard, "clearance" as a general term has not been defined. The definition will improve the context of sections 5.2.4 Clearances and 5.3.5 Chimney Clearances. Definition cited is from NFPA 211 3.3.38 / NFPA 97 3.3.40




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3.3.13 Spark Arresters.Screening material or a screening device attached to a chimney termination to prevent thepassage of sparkes and brands to the outside atmosphere.


Under the revised header of 5.1.4.1 Spark Arresters the general definition is not given and should be included. Cited definition is from NFPA 211 3.3.125 and NFPA 97 3.3.189


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 24-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 5.1.4] Section pertaining to spark arresters


Submitter Full Name: Michael LuftOrganization: Van-Packer Company, Inc.Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Dec 20 12:58:14 EST 2016


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Public Input No. 30-NFPA 82-2017 [ Chapter 4 ]

Chapter 4 General

4.1 Opening Protectives.

4.1.1

Where required by this standard, openings required to have a fire protection rating shall beprotected by approved fire door assemblies that are installed and maintained in accordancewith NFPA 80, Standard for Fire Doors and Other Opening Protectives , except as otherwisespecified by this standard.

4.2* Fire resistance rating

Where a fire resistance rating is required by this standard it shall be determined in accordancewith the requirements of ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of BuildingConstruction and Materials, unless another fire resistance test method is specified explicitly.


Throughout the standard, fire resistance ratings are required to be measured but no standard is specified. The default standard should be ASTM E119, unless a specific alternate fire resistance standard is specified. This will ensure adequate fire resistance of the building elements.


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 26-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 2.3.1]Public Input No. 31-NFPA 82-2017 [New Section after A.3.3.7]


Submitter Full Name: Marcelo HirschlerOrganization: GBH InternationalStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Jan 05 16:57:06 EST 2017


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5.1.4 Spark Arresters.

5.1.4.1

Sparks / Fly Ash Protection.

Where the nature of the waste being incinerated produces fly ash emissions, the incineratorstacks shall be protected by one of the following:

(1) Spark arresters installed on incinerator stacks

(2) A wet scrubber or other emission control system or component installed between theincinerator and the stack such that fly ash cannot pass directly from the incinerator to thestack

(3) Approved design and control features that prevent the entrainment of fly ash from theincinerator to the stack under all operating conditions

5.1.4.2 1 Spark Arresters.

5.1.4.1.1

The net free area of the arrester shall be not less than four three times the net free area of theoutlet of the chimney flue it serves.

5.1.4.3

Arresters

1.2

The arrester shall have a vertical height of not less than 1.3 times the minimum diameter of thechimney flue or the minimum horizontal dimension of a rectangular chimney flue.

5.1.4.4

Arresters, including

1.3

The arrestor screen shall have heat and corrosion resistance equivalent to 19 gauge [0.041 in.(1.04 mm)] galvanized steel or 24 gauge [0.024 in. (0.61 mm)] stainless steel. In addition,bolts, rivets, screws, and supporting members, shall be made of heat- and corrosion-resistantmaterials.

5.1.4.5 1.4

Openings shall not permit the passage of spheres having a diameter larger than 1/2 in. ( 12.7mm ( 1 ⁄ 2 in. ) or block the passage of spheres having a diameter of less than 3/8 in. ( 9.5mm ( 3 ⁄ 8 in. ).


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5.1.4.6 1.5

Means shall be provided for securely attaching the spark arresters to chimneys to arrester tothe chimney. The attachment method shall provide adequate support and prevent preventingthe movement or detachment of the arresters arrester during normal operation and designedwind loads .

5.1.4. 1.6

The spark screen shall be accessible for cleaning, and the screen shall be removable to allowthe cleaning of the chimney flue. Where a screen is not removable because it is part of achimney cap assembly or the like, then the assembly shall be removable to allow the cleaningof the chimney flue.

5.1.4.1. 7

Spark screens shall be replaceable. Where a screen is part of a chimney cap assembly or thelike and the assembly is not intended to have the screen removed and or replaced, then theassembly shall be replacable.

5.1.4.1.8

Where part of a listed chimney termination system, spark arresters shall be constructed andinstalled in accordance with the listing.


The original spark arresters section scope (5.1.4.1) is more about spark/fly ash prevention from entering and or exiting the chimney flue. I have suggested a name consistent with that for the section. Spark arresters are one method of preventing sparks & fly ash from exiting the chimney flue and pertinent information pertaining to them should be grouped accordingly. I have added and corrected some of the language and requirements for spark arresters to be more consistent with NFPA 211.


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 25-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 3.3.11]




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Public Input No. 5-NFPA 82-2016 [ Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1 ]

6.2.3.3.1.1

All chute intake doors into a waste chute shall be provided with a self-closing, positive latchingand gasketed , fire door assembly in accordance with 6.2.3.1.3.


There are some trash chute manufacturer's doors that require a gasket and some do not. If the manufacturer has a door that was listed and tested by a NRTL without a gasket, then to ask for one using the current language could void the listing.

Deleting the word "gasket" from the current language would clear up the problem.

There are special inspectors that are going around to condominium buildings telling the associations they have to install gaskets on trash chutes without them. These particular trash chutes are not required by the manufacturer's listing to have them.


Submitter Full Name: Janet WashburnOrganization: City of Hollywood Fire DepartmentStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Sun Apr 03 19:08:37 EDT 2016


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Public Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [ Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1 ]

6.2.3.3.1.1

All chute intake doors into a waste chute shall be provided with a self-closing , positiveand positive latching and gasketed fire door assembly in accordance with 6.2.3.1.3.


Chute doors are currently being manufactured and listed that do not come equipped with a gasket. The language in this section, requiring a gasket, is causing AHJs to mandate a gasket be provided on a listed chute door assembly. This is causing the listed product to be modified in a manner that is inconsistent with the listing. In a number of cases, the addition of a gasket to these listed non-gasket equipped doors, causes them to not seat correctly. With chute doors achieving a listing without a gasket, it appears the need for a gasket is highly questionable. Either the TC needs to affirm that chute doors must be provided with a manufacture provided gasket that is part of the door assembly or remove the gasket requirement.

A number of PI's are submitted on this issue to provide the TC with a number of different options to address this problem. The goal of these PI's is not to advocate for a particular position but to bring clarity to an issue that is creating significant field interpretation problems with AHJs and maintenance issues related to chute door gaskets in new and existing applications.


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 7-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 6.2.3.3.1.2] Similar IssuesPublic Input No. 8-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after A.10.1] Similar IssuesPublic Input No. 9-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3] Similar IssuesPublic Input No. 10-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3] Similar IssuesPublic Input No. 7-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 6.2.3.3.1.2]Public Input No. 8-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after A.10.1]Public Input No. 9-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]Public Input No. 10-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]


Submitter Full Name: Anthony ApfelbeckOrganization: Altamonte Springs Building/Fire Safety DivisionStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Mon Apr 04 09:18:32 EDT 2016


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Public Input No. 7-NFPA 82-2016 [ New Section after 6.2.3.3.1.2 ]

6.2.3.3.1.2.1

The listing and installation shall include the use of a manufacture supplied gasket.


Chute doors are currently being manufactured and listed that do not come equipped with a gasket. This is causing the listed product to be modified in a manner that is inconsistent with the listing. In a number of cases, the addition of a gasket to these listed non-gasket equipped doors, causes them to not seat correctly. If it is the intent of the TC to require a gasket on all chute intake doors, this needs to be clearly specified that the gasket should be part of the manufactures installation instructions and part of the listing.



Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1] Similar IssuePublic Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1]Public Input No. 8-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after A.10.1]Public Input No. 9-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]Public Input No. 10-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]




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Public Input No. 29-NFPA 82-2017 [ Section No. 6.3.2.4.2 ]

6.3.2.4.2

To avoid vacuum leaks, riser pipe joints shall be flanged, gasketed, and bolted, or lap welded .

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description ApprovedNFPA_82_Held_PC_6.pdf 52_PC # 6


This Public Input appeared as Reject but Hold in the Public Comment No 6 of the F2018 Second Draft Report for NFPA 82 and per the Regs. at 6.3.2.4.2


Submitter FullName: TC ON ICN-AAA

Organization: NFPA TC ON INCINERATORS AND WASTE HANDLINGSYSTEMS

Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jan 03 13:21:56 EST 2017


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Public Comment No. 6-NFPA 82-2012 [ Section No. 6.3.2.4.2 ]

6.3.2.4.2 To avoid vacuum leaks, riser pipe shall joints shall be flanged, gasketed, and bolted, or lap welded .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

Adding "joints" provides subject clarity. Allowing Lap welded joints provides construction flexibility without compromising fire safety.


Submitter Full Name: DAN BINGHAMOrganization: TRANSVAC SOLUTIONSSubmittal Date: Thu Nov 15 18:53:10 EST 2012

Committee Statement

CommitteeAction:

Rejected but held

Resolution: This is new material and will be held until the next revision cycle in accordance with NFPA Regulations.

Copyright Assignment

I, DAN BINGHAM, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am DAN BINGHAM, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

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11.2.4 Gaskets on chute intake doors shall only be provided on exisitng chute intakedoors when required by the manufacture and the listing.

11.2.4.1 Where gaskets are required on chute intake doors, they shall be listed for theapplication or approved by the manufacture.


This language clarifies that existing chute intake doors should not be retrofit with gaskets and when gaskets are required, they shall be approved by the manufacturer and meet the requirements of the listing. Chute doors are currently being manufactured and listed that do not come equipped with a gasket. The language, requiring a gasket in Chapter 6, is causing AHJs to mandate a gasket be provided on a non-gasket equipped listed chute door assembly. This is causing the listed product to be modified in a manner that is inconsistent with the listing. In a number of cases, the addition of a gasket to these listed non-gasket equipped doors, causes them to not seat correctly.



Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1] Similar issue.Public Input No. 7-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 6.2.3.3.1.2] Similar issue.Public Input No. 8-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after A.10.1] Similar issue.Public Input No. 9-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3] Similar issue.Public Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1]Public Input No. 9-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]




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11.2.4 Modification to a waste and linen chute and transporation system, including chuteintake and discharge doors, shall only occur in accordance with this standard, themanufactures installation instructions and the listing.


Chute doors are currently being, and have been manufactured, and listed without a gasket. The language in NFPA 82, requiring a gasket, causes some AHJs to mandate a gasket be provided on a listed chute door assembly that is not normally equipped with one. This is causing the listed product to be modified in a manner that is inconsistent with the listing. In a number of cases, the addition of a gasket to these listed non-gasket equipped doors, causes them to not seat correctly. This proposed language provides guidance that modification of systems shall be in accordance with this standard, the manufactures installation instructions and the listing.



Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1] Related IssuePublic Input No. 7-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 6.2.3.3.1.2] Related IssuePublic Input No. 8-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after A.10.1] Related IssuePublic Input No. 10-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3] Related IssuePublic Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1]Public Input No. 10-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]




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11.3.1

Waste compactors shall be inspected and maintained not less than , at minimum, annually inaccordance with manufacturers' instructions.


The original text (not less than annually) would mean the inspection should NOT take place at any time period shorter than annually. The inspection should be required to take place in no time period greater than annually, thus requiring at least an annual inspection.


Submitter Full Name: David CannataOrganization: The Potpourri GroupStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Wed Nov 09 10:26:29 EST 2016


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Public Input No. 31-NFPA 82-2017 [ New Section after A.3.3.7 ]

A.4.2 The default fire resistance test should be ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for FireTests of Building Construction and Materials . If an alternate fire resistance test is specified, suchas a more severe test or one issued by a different standards development organization, thisshould be stated explicitly. Otherwise it would be possible for a user to employ a mild test and stillstate that a certain fire resistance rating has been achieved.


clarification


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 30-NFPA 82-2017 [Chapter 4]Public Input No. 27-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. B.1.2.1]


Submitter Full Name: Marcelo HirschlerOrganization: GBH InternationalStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Jan 05 17:03:59 EST 2017


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Public Input No. 19-NFPA 82-2016 [ Section No. A.3.3.7 ]

A.3.3.7 Incinerator.

The most applicable systems under this definition include, but are not limited to, controlled airsystems, rotary kiln systems, and multiple-chamber–type incineration systems. Someadditional incinerator system deffinitions are as follows:

Chute-Fed Incinerator (Class IIA) . An incinerator designed specifically to be fed refusefrom one or more floors above the incinerator directly into the incinerator by a separate chuteconstructed with a positive means to avoid penetration by smoke or fumes and connecteddirectly over the primary combustion chamber. The incinerator is built with a primary and asecondary combustion chamber and a settling chamber. It can include a flue gas washer orscrubber. A separate chimney serves to convey the combustion gases to the outdoors. Thisclass of incinerator is suitable for Type 1 and Type 2 wastes. It generally is used in residentialand institutional buildings, including apartments, clubs, dormitories, churches, schools, andother occupancies where Type 1 and Type 2 wastes are to be incinerated.

Commercial-Industrial-Type Incinerator (Classes III, IV, V, VI, and VII). An incineratorhaving a charging capacity in excess of 5 ft3 (0.14 m3) and suitable for a variety of wastes asfollows: (1) Class III — Waste Type 0, Type 1, or Type 2; (2) Class IV — Waste Type 3; (3)Class V— Waste Types 0–4 (municipal incinerators); (4) Class VI — Waste Type 4; (5) ClassVII — Waste Types 5 and 6.

Flue-Fed Incinerator (Class II). An incinerator served by a single chimney flue that servesalso as the charging chute, where refuse is fed directly to the incinerator through this chimneyflue from one or more floors above the incinerator. This class of incinerator is suitable for Type1 and Type 2 waste materials and garbage incidental to residential occupancy in single-familyand multifamily buildings. This class of incinerator is generally used in residential andinstitutional buildings, including apartments, clubs, dormitories, churches, schools, and otheroccupancies where Type 1 and Type 2 wastes are to be incinerated.

Residential-Type Incinerator. An incinerator for the burning of ordinary combustible wastematerial and garbage (Type 2 waste) incidental to residential occupancy and having a fireboxor charging compartment not greater than 5 ft3 (0.14 m3) in capacity. Residential-typeincinerators can be self-contained, factory-built units that do not necessitate field construction,or can be of a built-in type designed to be encased in masonry or installed in a masonry wall orchimney.


The addition of the annex materials further defines incinerator systems. The definitions have been taken from NFPA 211 sections 3.3.91.1, 3.3.91.2, 3.3.91.3, and 3.3.91.4.




Submitter Full Name: Michael Luft


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Organization: Van-Packer Company, Inc.Street Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Fri Dec 16 15:28:33 EST 2016


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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 82-2017 [ New Section after A.6.2 ]

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A.6.2.3.3.1.1 Chute intake doors are proprietary doors manufactured, listed and labeledspecifically for use in waste chute applications. The fire performance of such doors can bedetermined in accordance with UL 10B, Fire Tests of Door Assemblies .


The use of the proper type of chute intake door for waste chutes is critical for maintaining the fire performance of the chute. This proposal is intended to provide clarification on the proper door to be utilized in this application.


Submitter Full Name: Kelly NicolelloOrganization: UL LLCStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Jan 03 10:47:04 EST 2017


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Public Input No. 8-NFPA 82-2016 [ New Section after A.10.1 ]

A.11.2.2 Waste and linen shutes and transport systems, including chute intake anddischarge door, should not be modified from the installation specifications provided inthe listing or manufactures installation instructions. As an example, the installation ofgaskets, on chute intake doors that were not manufactured nor listed with a gasket, cancause the doors to fail to close and can violate the listing.


Chute doors are currently being manufactured and listed that do not come equipped with a gasket. The language in this section, requiring a gasket, is causing AHJs to mandate a gasket be provided on a listed chute door assembly. This is causing the listed product to be modified in a manner that is inconsistent with the listing. In a number of cases, the addition of a gasket to these listed non-gasket equipped doors, causes them to not seat correctly. The addition of this Annex language will assist the AHJ with understanding that doors, and other listed products, should not be modified from the specifications provided by the manufacture or the listing.



Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1] Similar issue.Public Input No. 7-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 6.2.3.3.1.2] Similar issue.Public Input No. 6-NFPA 82-2016 [Section No. 6.2.3.3.1.1]Public Input No. 9-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]Public Input No. 10-NFPA 82-2016 [New Section after 11.2.3]




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Public Input No. 27-NFPA 82-2016 [ Section No. B.1.2.1 ]

B.1.2.1 ASTM Publications.


ASTM C 980 C980 , Standard Specification for Industrial Chimney Lining Brick, 2010 2013a .

ASTM E119, Standard Test Methods for Fire Tests of Building Construction and Materials,2016a


date update and addition of ASTM E119 per PI 31


Related Input RelationshipPublic Input No. 31-NFPA 82-2017 [New Section after A.3.3.7]


Submitter Full Name: Marcelo HirschlerOrganization: GBH InternationalStreet Address:City:State:Zip:Submittal Date: Thu Dec 22 17:21:26 EST 2016


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