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Cancer Ascendant
Chart 5
By
Saptarishis Astrology Team Member Copy Editor: Yenbeeyes
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1. Goddess Parvathi asked, Please tell me the results of the horoscope of the Cancer
ascendant with Sun, Mercury and Venus in the Ascendant, Rahu in Leo, Jupiter and Ketu in
Aquarius, Saturn in Libra, Mars in Virgo and Moon in Gemini.
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29-7-1867
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(The native was born on 29-07-1867 on a Monday morning which happened to be the 15th day
of the Solar month of Cancer in the year Prabhava.
The planetary positions are as follows:- Sun- Pushya -4, Moon- Arudra -3, Mars-U.Phalguni
-2, Mercury (R)- Aslesha -2, Jupiter (R) Satabhishak -3,Venus- Punarvasu -4,Saturn -
Vishaka -2, Rahu P.Phalguni 4, Ketu- P.Bhadrapada -2, Lagna - Cancer )
Comments From Yenbeeyes: While trying to prepare the chart in Jhora for the date 29-07-1867 given above using Lahiri Chitrapaksha Ayanamsa and a time of birth as 7:07 AM with a Longitude of 79 E 53 and a latitude of 11 N 56 we get the following planetary positions: Sun Pushya -4; Moon Ardra 3; Mars U.Phalguni -1; Mercury-R Aslesha -2; Jupiter R Satabhishang -3; Venus Punarvasu -3; Saturn Visaka -2; Rahu P.Phalguni -4; Ketu P.Bhadrapada -2;
So there is a difference in the position of two planets viz. Mars and Venus.1
1 Locating when this chart native was born is difficult with the current Vedic astro softwares, we took the help of one western astrology
software Solar Fire via a SA Core Team member and this is what she said about the period of the chart, checked from 1000-2012 and found JU in AQ, SA in LI, Rahu in AQ from July 29-Sept 13, 1867 but the other placements did not fit then. Then I looked from 0000-1000 and found July 7-18, 0100 and Nov. 27-Dec. 31, 0361 for JU in AQ, SA in LI, Rahu in AQ and Ketu in Leoand within these date ranges when I checked the other placements I could not find them in the 0361 date range or the 0100 date range. I went back almost 4000 years BC 12/16/1966 BC to 12/24/1965 BC .JU, SA and the nodes are in the right place but could not get all the other placements to line up
3/17/2523 BC to 8/29/2523 BC. JU, SA and the nodes are in the right place but other planetary positions do not line up 1/20/3732 BC to 2/22/3732 BC JU, SA and the nodes are in the right place but other planetary positions do not line up - SA
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But the Balance Dasa at the time of birth goes off by 2 months. It is given in verse 38 down below that the balance of Rahu dasa at birth is 8 years 9 months. As per Jhora it comes to 8 Years 9 months and 14 days taking 360 days savanna year and 8 years 11 months taking normal solar year of 365.2425 days. Further research is on for the readers.
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2. To this query of Parvathi Devi, the Sage Viswamithra replies as follows: A male birth is
born in this combination. The house where the native is born will be facing the South
in a street that runs East-West. Temples of Lord Shiva, Kali, Vishnu and Shakthi
Devi are situated towards eastern side of this house.
(Translators Note:- The planets in different directions must be noted. The planets are
placed in the directions taking the ascendant as East. The counting goes as East, South, West
and North. (If Cancer Lagna is taken as the East, Leo will be South, Virgo will be West, Libra will
be North, Aquarius will be North and Gemini will be North. Planets placed in these signs have been
grouped according to directions.)
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Jupiter is Jeevakaraka for man and Venus for woman. Look at the direction of Jupiter. It is in
the north. That means the house faces the south in the street that runs East- West. Look at
the planets from the position of Jupiter. The padas travelled by the other planets help in
determining the temples and their directions.
Padachara:-
Sun- 5th pada (Pushyami 4th pada will be 5th pada in Cancer)
Moon 5 (Ardra 3rd pada will be 5th pada in Gemini)
Mars 1 (Uttaraphalguni in 2nd pada is 1st pada of Virgo)
Mercury 7 (Aslesha 2nd pada is 7th pada in Cancer)
Jupiter 5 (Satabhisha 3rd pada will be 5th pada in Aquarius)
Venus 1 (Punarvasu 4th pada is 1st pada of Cancer)
Saturn 8 (Visakha 2nd pada is 8th pada of Libra)
Rahu / Ketu 2 (in the anti clockwise) (Purvaphalguni 4th pada will be the 2nd pada of Leo in the
reverse direction as also Purvabhadrapada 2nd pada will also be 2nd pada of Aquarius in anti-clockwise
direction)
From this it is seen that Jupiter in the 5th pada of Aquarius more or less occupies the centre of
the sign (As there are 9 padas in a sign). From that in the east (as per the diagram above)
Venus (at 1st pada), Sun at 5th pada and Mercury at 7th pada might indicate Shiva (Sun), Kali,
Vishnu (Mercury) and Shakthi (Venus is for Shakthi as Venus in enemy sign is Yakshi as per
Prasna Marga. No separate indicator for Kali. It might mean that the temple is Shiva- Kali as
the sign is that of Moon. The Moon is waning at the time of birth. So it is Kali. If the moon
is waxing, the deity would be Durga.)
Comments From Yenbeeyes:
The highlighted portions in padas table above are added for a further understanding of the
padas. Sun Rise 05:56:33 (a) Time of Birth 07:07:00 (b) Difference 01:10:27 (a)(b) Convert to decimal 01 + (10/60) + (27/3600) 1.1742 hrs (c)
Convert to vighatis 1.1742 x 2.5 x 60=176.13vighatis Divide by 9 176.13/9 Remainder is 5.13
Rounded to next whole number
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From the table in Rule 5 Venus
Sex will have to be Female
Remarks Venus has conjoined a male planet Sun and is aspected by Jupiter a male planet (Jaimini aspect). Hence the conjunction of Mercury- a female eunuch is overruled. Also Cancer is a male sign.
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Another method: Convert the Ishta Ghatika into vighatis (by multiplying Ghatikas with 60). Divide
the same by 225. If the reminder is 0 to 15 or 46 to 90 or 151 to 225 it will be a male child and if it is
between 16 to 46 or 91 to 150 it will be a female. Ishta Ghatikas are available in Jhora software and for
this chart for the birth time of 7:07, Ishta Ghatika is 2.9352 or (2.9352 x 60) = 176 vighatis. Division by
225 is not possible and hence reminder will be 176 which falls in the male category. Hence birth time
may be taken as correct.
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3. Many streets converge in the North West, where temples of Mariyamman and Ganesha
are situated. There is a water body in the West and a river in the South. The native is
born as the 10th child in his family, in a small town with these landmarks. Let us tell
his fortunes.
(Translators Notes:- Moon at 5th pada and Ketu (having covered 2 padas) are to the west of
Jupiter, (moon at 5th pada must be behind Jupiter by a few degrees) but placed in the
northern direction thereby making them the planets in the North west of Jupiter. They
perhaps signify Mariamman and Ganesha temples (Ketu). Saturn also is in the same direction
as North but is in the 8th pada. As lord of the Kendra it is exalted in another Kendra and has
traveled more degrees than all the others.
Perhaps Saturns strength and location in odd sign is a determinant of the male birth. Its
location along with Jeevakaraka perhaps did not make a distinction to note a separate deity.
Deity signified by Moon is read along with Saturn (signifactor of a female Grama devatha) as
Mariammaan.
The location of rivers as per classical texts:-
Taurus Field filled with water
Cancer Canal
Libra River-Side
Scorpio River
Sagittarius Pond or tank
Capricorn River Stream
Aquarius Well
Pisces Ocean
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The verse says that there is a water body in the west and a river in the South. Looking at
these directions, Cancer lagna which also happens to be the moving sign indicates birth near
a water body. According to the above details related to water bodies, Cancer in the east
(lagna) oversees a water body in the west. Saturn (signifying the hometown here),
occupying Libra in the Northern direction oversees a river in the South.
This must be checked with other nadi horoscopes.
I did not find this tallying with the Saptarishi nadi, on Gemini ascendant translated by Mr Yenbeeyes,
which is posted in Saptarishis website. Perhaps other methods were used. We can check other
horoscopes of Viswamitra Nadi for the above hints. )
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4. Oh! Devi who is hailed by the sages! We will narrate the birth of the native, the
information about his siblings, children, father, mother and wife and also the details of
their previous births.
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About The Father Of The Native
5. The father of the native has a brother and sister. They will live long. We will describe
the characteristics of the father. He has reddish complexion and a thin body. He is
very clever and is endowed with patience.
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6. The natives father is diplomatic in conversation. He is very much fond of his wife
and is harmless at heart. He has no inherited property. He has come to reside
permanently in his wifes house. He enjoys all comforts, is fond of eating curd, ghee,
milk etc. He has bilious constitution.
Characteristics Of The Native
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7. The native is born to such a person (as explained above). We will tell the
characteristics of the native. He has reddish complexion, has appropriate education
and of medium height. He is tricky (clever) and speaks words in a very diplomatic
way. He has a deep yearning for money. (i.e., he is attached to money or wealth)
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8. He has a beautiful gait; has pearl like teeth; has lines in the shape of lotus in his palm. He
has a penchant for speaking beautiful words which others are not known to speak. He
has a drooping glance. He is highly attached to all things (or he loves to have
everything). He is cunning to some extent and speaks cunningly at times to the
disappointment of others. He grows enormous amount of grains (agricultural produce)
(Translators Note:- The gait of the native is described as padha nadai. It is explained as
beautiful gait in the Tamil commentary above. Let me draw your attention to Gemini
ascendant of Eshwar Nadi verse No 11 where it is said pathamaana nadaiyumullaan There is a
foot-note given for that in that article. I think the reference is to gait only. Because the
context is such that the sage is giving the details of Samudrika Lakshana (broadly speaking
palmistry). The same kind of description is given in this nadi with the commentary showing
this as a feature of the native. Therefore in my opinion padhamana nadai refers to balanced
and therefore beautiful gait)
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9. He will build a beautiful house. He is well mannered and devoted to God. He is fond
of his wife. He has a liking for eatables. He helps those who come to him for help. He
is capable of playing jugglery with words. Oh, Mother of Sri Ganesha! We will tell you
more. Please listen.
About Natives Siblings
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10. Let us tell about his siblings. He has 2 brothers and 3 sisters. All of them are long lived.
Among the total number of siblings, six were no more. The two brothers whom we
mentioned now are elder to the native.
Characteristics Of Natives Mother
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11. We will now narrate the characteristics of his mother. She has reddish complexion
and is rheumatic in constitution2. She is devoid of bad habits. Not only that, she has all
good virtues. She is comparable with Goddess Mahalakshmi. She never thinks of doing
harm to others. She is adorable to her relatives.
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2 Saturn sits in the 4H of mother and aspects the 10th from it which is the house of knees, but Saturn itself is considered rheumatic in
nature, a point often ignored by modern astrologers. Also what is to be noted is Saturn is in trine to Moon, among many other points. - SA
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12. She does not befriend those of lowly nature. Like men, she is capable of dominating
others. She is knowledgeable and is endowed with a natural sense of discrimination.
She is keen on feeding others. She is in possession of various types of jewels. She is
compassionate towards the poor. She lives with great fame. Moreover she lives happily
with her husband in her parental home.
About The Siblings Of Natives Mother
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13. Listen Oh, Devi who protects the meditating saints. Let us tell about her siblings. Of
the four siblings, one is male and three are females. The brother will live long but
would not have any progeny.
Previous Birth Of The Natives Mother
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14. Let us tell about the previous birth of the mother. In her previous birth, the natives
mother was born in the lineage of Nayaks in Puduvai (Puduchery / Pondichery). She
was innocent at heart and was affectionate towards children. She gained much
jewellery and enjoyed all comforts of life.
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15. She became a widow and then went on a pilgrimage to the sacred water bodies of the
Southern region and worshipped in many sacred places. She fed the poor enormously.
Next Birth Of The Natives Mother
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16. After her death, she was born in this family due to the grace of Lord Brahma. Let us tell
about her next birth. She will be born in a reputed Brahmin family in her next birth in
Sri Rangam.
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17. In that birth, she will be endowed with riches and enjoy comforts. She will have good
progeny. Her words will be respected. After her death in that birth, she will attain
divinity. Let us now tell about the previous birth of the father of the native.
Previous Birth Of Natives Father
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18. The natives father was born in the same lineage of Vaisyas in Thondai naadu (Areas in
and around Kancheepuram), made enormous wealth through business and lived with his
family of wife and children. We will now tell an incident that happened at that time.
(Translators Note:- The verse and the text imply that he was born in the same Vaisya
(chettiyar) varna. I think it does not specifically say that he was born in the same family in
which he is born as the father of the native.)
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19. An old person came to his house and asked for some food. Though there was food at
home at that time, he (the natives father) lied that there was no food. He offered some
money instead.
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20. This infuriated the athithi (the hungry guest who came to his house) who cursed him
to lose all his wealth and his house and become like him. So saying, the athithi left for
another house.
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21. There was another misdeed in addition to this. We will tell that also. When he was in
lending business in his previous birth, he fudged the accounts of the poor people and
demanded more money from them.
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22. A poor man affected by him cursed Since you are a worst offender by having fudged the
accounts of the poor, you will suffer and lose all your wealth. You will have to work under
others in this birth and in the next birth also.
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23. So saying the poor man gave him the meager money he had in his possession (as
demanded by the natives father in his previous birth). The natives father
accumulated misfortunes through such misdeeds in his previous birth.
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24. He lost all his wealth and came to live at the mercy of another person. After death, he
was born in this Vaisya family. Due to the misdeed of his previous birth, he could not
inherit any property from his father.
Next Birth Of Natives Father
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25. We already told that he would live in his wifes (father-in-laws) house (verse -6). In
his next birth he will be born in the Kshathriya lineage in the famous Sri Kanchi where
Lord Sri Varadaraja Swamy is residing and he will be wealthy.
Marriage Time Of Native
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26. The native born in Cancer ascendant will live in all greatness. We will tell about his
marriage time. He would be married in his 20th year. Oh Mother, please listen to what
we say about his life.
Comments From Yenbeeyes:
20th year is indicative of 8th house as per BCP. In the chart 8th house has Jupiter who is the 9L
of religious ceremony & 7th lord of marriage from Moon Asc. The 8H is Aquarius and its
lord Saturn and Rahu are placed in the 4th house and 2nd house both indicative of
family/addition to family. Jupiter placed in the 8th house is aspecting these two planets also.
The native was running Jupiter Dasa at that time and Venus/Sun Antardasa. Both Sun and
Venus are aspecting the 7th house and Sun is lord of 2nd house of addition to family and
Venus is lord of 4th house of family and 11th house of spouse (BPHS Chp 11 Shl 11).
There is a BSP rule which says that wherever Ketu is placed, it shows its results on the 11th from it in
the 19th/20th year. Here the 11th house to Ketu is the 6th house, but from Moon Asc this 6th
house becomes the 7th house of marriage. One must note that Ketu sits in the 8th house which
is considered the Mangalaya Sthana of marriage, being 2nd of gains from 7th.
From Chandra Lagna, Jupiter is the 7th lord of marriage and well placed in the 9th house and
the Antardasa lord Ve/Su is placed in the 2nd house of family.
About Natives Wife
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27. His wife is reddish in complexion and has gastric constitution. She loses temper at
times. Her family of birth would not flourish. She craves for all materials. She is well
mannered. She is cunning at heart. She has no devotion or respect for ascetics. She
talks as suitable to the situation.
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28. She has no brothers but has three sisters. Beyond that number no sibling could have
survived. The native will get half of her properties. We will tell about her family later.
Previous Birth Of The Native
29.
29. We will tell about the previous birth of the native. This native was born in the lineage
of Vanniya Kula Kshathriyas in Mahabalipuram and was very wealthy in his previous
birth. He possessed huge landed property. He did not indulge in any misdeeds and
helped the poor people.
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30. He gave alms and donations and was praised by all. He worshiped with devotion the
deer-skin clad Lord Paramasiva who held a blunt weapon in his hand. He was blessed
with a sweet tongued wife. In spite of all this, he was not blessed with progeny. He
died with a sad sense of deprivation on that account.
Next Birth Of The Native
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31. That person is born in Cancer ascendant in this birth. We will tell his next birth also.
He will be born in the lineage of Reddy in the north of Venkata hills (Thirumala hills of
Thiruppathi) and will be prosperous with money and lands. He will lead a happy life.
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Progeny Of The Native
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32. Oh, Mother! We will tell about his children. He has two sons and two daughters. All
the four will live long. The children born beyond this number will not survive. Oh
Mother, our words would not go wrong.
Time Of Death Of Parents Of The Native
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33. We will tell about the death time of his father. His father will die when the native will
be running his 23rd year. We will tell about his mothers death time also. His mother
will die in his 34th year. We will tell the details in the second part.
Comments from Yenbeeyes For almost all the charts of Saptarishi Nadi, the Publisher or myself, the Associate Editor has given explanations with
regard to the timing of events using BCP, BSP methods or the normal Astrological rules. Here I would like to have a
deviation. I am leaving the reasoning part for the two incidents described in the above verse to the readers. You can use
any of the methods. The best reasonings contributed by the readers will be published in the magazine. You can mail
your replies to [email protected] or [email protected]
General Results For The Native
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34. We will tell the general fortunes of the native. The native will be engaged in
cultivation. He will do some cunning deeds also. His status will be on par with that of
his brothers. He will not waste his lands. He is prone to some diseases.
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35. He will grow his cattle wealth. He will not possess expensive items. His children will
be fortunate. The native will gain lot of jewellery. He will have some good manners.
He will be fond of eating snacks (small meals). He will enjoy some comforts. Oh Devi,
we will continue to tell.
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36. He will do some misdeeds. He will become fortunate on account of his lover (wife).
He will be little popular, but also suffer some unnecessary abuses. The sage continues
to tell as the Goddesses wants to know about his family. The natives family will
become different in his 37th year.
(Translators Note:-May be it is implied that his family will divide. Earlier it is said that his mother
dies at his 34th year. He and his brothers would have remained under the same roof as long as his
mother lived. After her death, they would have started living separately and this happened in his 37th
year. This assumption gains credence because his wealth and son are discussed in the next verse)
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37. The native does not suffer from poverty in general. He is capable of making clever
arguments successively. His son will earn fame in all places. He has a big family. He
will possess chariots and horse driven carts. (Cars and motor cycles in todays
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terminology). He will have a growing family life and live happily. Oh, Parvathi Devi,
listen to us.
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38. At the time of birth of this native, the Rahu Maha dasa balance was 8 years and 9
months. We will tell the results of this dasa. There is birth of brothers and there will
be some skirmishes in the family.
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39. His mother and father suffer from diseases. The brothers also will suffer some
damages (get hurt?). There will be a death of a close relative. There will be always loss
of money in different ways (in this Rahu dasa). The natives health also will decline.
We will tell the other details in the second part.