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Reaching the limits of a policy argument

(and giving the client the bad news)

Robert AndersonProfessor of the Practice of Law

University of Denver Sturm College of [email protected]

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Fact gathering Exploring policy arguments Reaching the limits of policy Giving the client the bad news

A modular exercise

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Context for the exercise Exploring the keys to

objective analysis Understanding the power of

binding authority Set up for the exercise

A modular exercise

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Divide students into attorney-client pairs

Attorney conducts client interview

1st module: fact gathering

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Provide primer on search and seizure law

Lead discussion of policy and fairness arguments

2nd module: exploring policy

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Read and discuss Caballes v. Illinois

Listen to and discuss U.S. v. Johnson oral argument

3rd module: Reaching the limits of policy

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Return class to attorney-client teams

Attorney delivers Caballes analysis to client

Client responds

4th module: Giving the client the bad news

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Take it slow Can’t take it slow? Break it into pieces

Lessons learned

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Similarly themed exercises? Your lessons learned? Suggested mods and patches?

Questions: yours and mine