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From Bid Package to Detailed EVM Baseline in One Easy Step, Can it be Done? Karen Stiff Naval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division – China Lake, CA [email protected] Presented at the 2012 SCEA/ISPA Joint Annual Conference and Training Workshop - www.iceaaonline.com

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From Bid Package to Detailed EVM Baseline 

in One Easy Step, Can it be Done?

Karen StiffNaval Air Warfare Center, Weapons Division –

China Lake, [email protected]

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What is a Bid Package?

• The Cost Breakdown and Schedule put together in response to a request for a proposal.

• Importance?

– Perceived by the buyer as the final estimate of the cost of the proposed work.

– The Buyer expects that the schedule contained in the Bid package reflects how the work will be accomplished.

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What is an EVM Baseline?• Details how the work will be accomplished over the contract period of performance. (Cost and Schedule)

• Importance?– Provides a common basis for measuring progress by both the Contractor and the Buyer.

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EVM Baseline – Issues(Buyer’s viewpoint)

• Why does it take so long to put together a baseline?  (They had the bid package to work from!)

• Why doesn’t the EVM Baseline look anything like the bid package?

• It took 6 months just to get a baseline! Are they going to be able to finish the project on time?

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EVM Baseline – Issues(Contractor’s Viewpoint)

• What were the contract guys thinking when they put together this bid package?

• Plan, Plan, Plan!  Are we going to breach the contract before we’ve even begun the work?

• Wow, it took us so long to plan the baseline, it sure didn’t leave us much time to actually do the work, Are we going to be able to complete on time?

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Audience Input – Other Issues?

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Bid Package vs. EVM Baseline(Similarities)

• Similarities– WBS Structure

– Milestones

– Deliverables 

– Top Level Work Descriptions

– Roll‐up Timeframes

– Processes

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Bid Package vs. EVM Baseline(Differences)

• Differences– Management Reserve

– IPT/OBS Structure

– Work assignments

– Lower level work packages.

– resource loaded schedule

– realistic timeframes

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RoadBlocks• Buyer is not realistic in their Expectations.• Bidders squeeze too hard when putting together the bid/proposal package to win the contract, thinking they can make it up later with contract changes.

• Did the Bid/Proposal team really understand the complexity of the work?

• Challenges for Mgt Reserve, when is it too much?• Buyer trying to use Fixed Price R&D contracts without good understanding of the work involved.

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Road Blocks (Audience Input)

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• Redo the following 2 to reflect differences in buyer’s vs. seller’s objectives during negotiation.

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Tips/Tricks (Buyer)

• Know what it cost in the past, and how long it took.

• Put together realistic expectations, instead of trying to fit into unrealistic timeframes and budgets.

• Give Contractors more time to put together their bid packages

• Train bid review team on EVM requirements

• Expect some differences between the

EVM baseline and bid package.

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Tips/Tricks (Contractor)

• Business paradigm shift to have the CAMs/team work on the bid package through work completion

• If Bid team is not the CAM/Work team, at least make sure they know what the work challenges are.

• Train bid team on EVM requirements

• Start the EVM baseline from cost and schedule in the bid package, and minimize management challenges

• Can CAMs challenge Management to 

do more with less?

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Tips/Tricks (Audience Input)

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Is it Possible to use the Bid Package for the EVM Baseline?

(Audience Thoughts )

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Is it Possible to use the bid package Schedule? 

• Currently ‐Maybe/Sometimes– If top level is realistic and lower levels can be “filled in”.

• In Future

– YES!!! IF:• Top level is realistic and lower levels can be expanded.

• Resources are realistic

• Utilized to manage contract and learn from past to provide more realistic schedules.

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Is it Possible to use the bid package cost estimate?

• Currently ‐my answer would be no!– Even though bids are put together with historical evidence, they rarely 

take into account enough differences in the design.

• In future?

– Yes!!! IF:• Change the way bid packages are put together

• More realistic Government buyers/budgets/timelines

• Manage utilizing the EVM baseline – and learn from past mistakes

• Contract cost savings sharing.

• Change the fundamental nature of “negotiating”?

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