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MODERN PENTECOSTALISM: COUNTERFEIT

SPIRITUALITY

(Voodoo Christianity)

By Jeffrey D. DeanSep 06, 2011

The time has come for me to expose the counterfeit Spirituality of the modern Pentecostalmovement because I have MUCH personal experience in this area and because it was my

time among the Pentecostals during the 20th Century which was instrumental in my

journey to where I am at this current time. This booklet is probably going to beextremely painful for a Pentecostal to read (most will probably not get through it), yet it

is IMPERATIVE that I ALERT my readers to the fundamental errors of this movement

(and it's roots in Voodoo Spiritism). I will also address some of the ERROR I uncovered

on the part of the DETRACTORS of Pentecostalism, none more vocal of course than the

Southern Baptist Convention. This I will do because if what Pentecostals do to theministry of the Holy Spirit is bad, what their detractors, specifically cessationists,

dispensationalists and MOST Baptists do to the Holy Spirit in RESPONSE is WORSEBY FAR than any damage the Pentecostals are doing!

When you are done reading this, hopefully, you will see just what a mess of things thebranches of the BEAST RELIGION have made of things.

I was raised on the Bible and I was baptized at 8 years old in a Baptist Church

We had moved to Detroit by the time I was 12 and I chose to continue going to Church. I

rode to Church with neighbors (The Gardners were their name). We attended a BaptistChurch somewhere between 9 mile and 12 mile on Lahser Road in Southfield Michigan.

When I was 17, as I began to read, the HOLY SPIRIT FELL ON ME in a HUGE WAY.Scriptures I had known my entire life jumped out at me like never before. The epiphany

came when I read Isaiah 29:11- 16. (I had at the time the practice of praying before I

read for a "word" from God and then just FLIPPING the Bible open to a random pageand letting my eyes fall where they may on that page).

Isaiah 29: 11- 24

"11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is

sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this I pray

thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:

12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I

pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.


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13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with

their mouth, and with their lips do honor me, but have removed their heart

far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by precept of men:

14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this

people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their

wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall

be hid.

15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and

their works are in the dark, and they say, who sees us? and who knows us?

16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the

potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not?or shall the thing frmed say of him that framed it, He had no

understanding?

17 Is it not yet a very little while and Lebanon shall be turned into a

fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?

18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes

of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.

19 The meek also shall increase their joy in the Lord, and the poor among

men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.

20 for the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed,

and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:

21 That make a man an offender for a word and lay a snare for him that

reproves at the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

22 Therefore thus saith the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, concerning thehouse of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face

now waxe pale.

23 But when he seeth his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of

him they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and

shall fear the God of Israel.


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24 They also that erred in the spirit shall come to understanding, and they

that murmured shall learn doctrine."

This chapter of Isaiah says a lot! The book here mention is of course the Holy Scriptures.

Men rely on those who are "learned" to tell them what it says and those who are "learned"cannot for the book is SEALED by the HOLY SPIRIT!

Matthew 13: 10- 15

"10 And the disciples came, and said to him (Jesus), Why speakest thou

unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know

the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever has, to him shall be given, and he shall have more

abundance: bout whosoever has not, from him shall be taken away even

that which he has.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and

hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah which saiys, by hearing

you shall hear and shall not understand; and seeing you shall see andshall not perceive:"

You can imagine how excited I got later on during that chapter of my life when I

stumbled on the above verses in Matthew? I had already continued to read Isaiah basedon what I understood about Isaiah 29! I read and read and read Isaiah after that because I

understood that the Scriptures are SEALED and require HOLY SPIRIT DISCERNMENT

to understand them. (Christ said always "he who has ears to hear let him hear").

Back in Isaiah 29 God says "they draw near me with their lips and with their mouths" and

"their hearts are far from me" and worse yet, "their fear toward me is taught by the

precept of men!" The first time I read this I understood that the failing of Israel (and laterof those who claim to follow Christ in the Beast Religion) is that they rely on the

WISDOM of MEN rather than the HOLY SPIRIT! As I read this section of the Bible, it

was as if the Holy Spirit was falling from Heaven and giving me the BASICUNDERSTANDING I NEEDED to get me through this life without being DECEIVED.

Isaiah gives a prediction that "the wisdom of the wise men shall perish and theunderstanding of their prudent men shall be hid." That is the state of ALL who rely on


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the wisdom of MEN rather than the SPIRIT of God!

Isaiah also touched on those who say God DOES NOT SEE THEIR SINS because of theBLOOD OF CHRIST COVERING THEM!

"Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their councelfrom the Lord and their works are in the dark and they

say 'who sees us and who knows us?"

When I read that, being raised a Baptist I recognized that ERROR immediately. I had

NEVER understood how they could say God, who sees all and knows all, CANNOT SEEOUR SIN! What they really are saying is that God LOOKS AWAY and turns a BLIND

EYE to our sin. Yet, if that is so, why teach repentance, confessions of sins, and asking

for forgiveness? I would be asking to be forgiven for something that God has already

dismissed and ignored! None of it EVER made sense to me until I began this current

chapter of my life. Here was a clear cut scripture pronouncing WOE on those who teachthat God does not SEE their sins!

Later, during that same period I stumbled across scriptures such as THIS one:

1 Corinthians 1: 17

"For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel not with

wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."

AND

1 Corinthians 2: 1- 12

"1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of

speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.

2 For I determined not to know anything among you, save Jesus Christ,

and him crucified.

3 And I was with you in weakness,a nd in fear, and in much trembling.

4 And my speech and my preaching were not with enticing words of man's

wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:

5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power

of God.


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6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the

wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought.

7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom,

which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it,

they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 But as it is written, Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have

entered into the heart of a man, the things which God has prepared for

them that love him.

10 But God has revealed them to us BY HIS SPIRIT: for the spiritsearches all things, yes, the deep things of God.

11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man

which is in him? even so the things of God knows no man, but the spirit

of God.

12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is

of God; that we might know the things that are freely give to us of God."

Scriptures such as these jumped out at me when I discovered them because they served asDIRECT CONFIRMATION that I had been reading Isaiah correctly from the start!

Those who rely on TEACHINGS OF MEN rather than from the Holy Spirit fall into a

snare, and fall backward and are "taken" in lies! The scriptures are SEALED by the Holy

Spirit and to all others (devoid of that spirit or not relying on the same) will onlyunderstand in parables and will not SEE their meaning! Those who rely on WISDOM

OF MEN nullify the PURPOSE of the VERY CROSS OF CHRIST!

I had been shown the FUNDAMENTAL ERROR of ALL CHRISTIAN RELIGION I

just didn't realize it fully at the time! (And I had no idea the implications of it, nor did I

understand the ORIGINS of this error, not until MANY YEARS later).

When I came across THIS scripture I was stunned to the core! For here was Christ

directly quoting the VERY CHAPTER I had flipped to the day the Holy Spirit fell upon

me!

Matthew 15: 7- 9


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"7 You hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you saying,

8 This people draw near me with their moth, and honor me with their lips;

but their heart is far from me.

9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the

commandments of men."

I began my life long love affair with the Holy Spirit teachings as opposed to teachings of

"the wise men and scholars" of this world! It was God, through the Holy Spirit leading

and guiding me into ALL truth.

I had the AUDACITY to BELIEVE that I could learn from God directly from the Holy

Spirit, and because I believed it, and prayed for it continually, I was granted it!

My study of Isaiah continued on after that. I read into chapter 30 and found this:

Isaiah 30: 1

"woe to the rebellious children, saith the Lord, that take counsel, but NOT

OF ME; and that COVER WITH A COVERING, but NOT OF MY

SPIRIT, that they may ADD SIN TO SIN."

The Holy Spirit was laying the foundation within me of the very purpose of the cross aswell as revealing the ERROR of the antichrist teachings to me. The Spirit was saying

"you have been taught by those who say that the Blood of Christ "COVERS" their sin and

God does not see them, and that rely on the COUNSEL OF MEN rather than the HOLYSPIRIT, and they do this for ONE PURPOSE, that they may CONTINUE in their SINS!

Later in Chapter 30 Isaiah makes these astounding pronouncements about the "book thatwas sealed" of which he spoke in the previous chapter, showing that he was STILL

talking about the SAME THING:

Isaiah 30: 8- 14

"8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it

may be for the time to come for ever and ever:

9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will NOT

HEAR THE LAW OF GOD.

10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto

us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:


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11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One

of Israel to cease from before us.

12 wherefore thus says the Holy One of Israel, because you despise this

word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

13 therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling

out in a high wall, whose breaking comes suddenly at an instant.

14 And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is

broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the

bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal

out of the pit."

These verses echo Isaiah's early prounouncements about the "book that is sealed" and

also "surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay."Isaiah was predicting the final end of all those teachers and all those who follow the

wisdom of men into sin after sin after sin, all the while claiming to have a COVERING

for those sins and claiming that GOD DOES NOT SEE THOSE SINS.

You can imagine how I was reeling from reading and understanding all of this, coming

from my Baptist upbringing! I knew immediately that I could NEVER fit in with the

Baptists after what I knew and understood about their OBVIOUS spiritual condition!For, right in the Baptist CREED they claim to believe in the HOLY SPIRIT, yet

everything they taught was in direct OPPOSITION to the teachings of Christ and theHoly Spirit (when it comes to overcoming and defeating sin in your life). They honoredthe Holy Spirit with their mouths, but their HEARTS were far from it.

The most amazing thing about the verses in Chapter 30 were that they speak, not just tothe Baptist who say "prophecy is a finished work and there is no prophecy" (CAUSE

THE HOLY ONE TO CEASE FROM BEFORE US) but these verses all speak to the

group of people I would encounter SOON in my journey, the Pentecostals who say"prophesy not unto us right things, prophesy smooth things, prophesy deceits." (I will get

to all that in a moment) I'm kind of jumping ahead in the story because clearly the Holy

Spirit knew my next course of action would be to seek out those who were vocally

claiming to follow the HOLY SPIRIT and emphasizing the Spirit in their teachings.

I had to go back to the beginning of Isaiah and read it all, until I came to these verses:

Isaiah 28: 9- 13

"9 whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to


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understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn

from the breasts.

10 for precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line,

line upon line; here a little and there a little;

11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to his

people.

12 To shom he said, this is the rest wherewith you may cause the weary to

rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept

upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little and there a little;

that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared andtaken."

The first time I read this I recognized the "stammering lips and another tongue," for I had

heard of the Pentecostal Movement while growing up (and heard all the pronouncements

against them) from my elders and older family members! I had already begun tounderstand that the Scriptures were making a distinction between following MEN'S

teachings and following the Holy Spirit. Here I found Isaiah talking again about

"precepts upon precept" (their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men). Then,when Isaiah talks of the Holy Spirit in 28 he mentions "stammering lips" and "another

tongue."

I found a Pentecostal style non denomination church. When I first entered into the

Church they were in mid worship. Their hands were raised and most of them were

shouting out in strange languages (all at once), some were falling on the floor. This was

your typical what my elders would have called "Holy Roller" church. My first reactionwas, "perhaps these people are nuts." I have to be honest. There was so much

pandemonium and so little order there what else could I think?

Yet, I liked the sermon, and I felt it was spot on (at least verbally) with how I was reading

the scriptures, so I continued to go there. This was a Pentecostal church not affiliated

with Assemblies of God (which I would explore later). They had all the basic teachings

that you find in a Pentecostal church, including the foundation, which is that you HAVEto speak in tongues and that is the "evidence" of the infilling of the Holy Spirit. I took

exception to that teaching IMMEDIATELY because I had already done my homework

and it has already been revealed to me that the ONE AND ONLY EVIDENCE of a SpiritFilled life was our LOVE WALK. If we walked even as Christ walked, in the Love of

the Father, we had the evidence of the "infilling" of the Holy Spirit and no amount of

yammering in another tongue could REPLACE that evidence. You could stammer allday and all night and FAKE that, it was NO PROOF at ALL that you were "FILLED"


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with the Holy Spirit. (Especially if there was SIN in your everyday life).

I had enough Spiritual presence of mind to see right through this, so my time in thatChurch was rather short lived. I moved on to find the Assemblies of God (who, as I

learned, were the FIRST Pentecostal major denomination and basically the HEADS of

the movement).

By the age of 22 I was in the Air Force. I began attending an Assembly of God church. I

became a regular there. Yet, sticking in my craw all along was their mishandling oftongues whereby you would have a Congregation FULL of people all speaking in

tongues at the same time. (Contrary to the clear word of scripture which says "let it be by

twos and the most by threes and let one interpret).

I also had a big problem with their dispensational leanings and with the fact that the

PRETRIBULATION RAPTURE TEACHING was incorporated right into their

Statement of Faith, with a warning that anyone who doesn't believe it is "lost." (The

pretribulation rapture doctrine is one of the biggest lies ever to crop up in the BeastReligion, I have covered that elsewhere in another book).

Yet, my biggest problem of all continued to be their insistance that speaking in tongues is

the "only evidence" of the "infilling of the Holy Ghost." This is so clearly NOT true that

it astonishes me anyone can still believe it! What proof is speaking in tongues? Again,

the REAL proof is in your LOVE WALK, how you live your life! By the Assemblies ofGod teaching it didn't matter how you LIVED as long as you were speaking in tongues.

If you lived righteous and holy but didn't speak in tongues you weren't "filled with the

Spirit."

Thus, we see that they put the "gift" of tongues (which is a minor gift according to the

scriptures) above RIGHTEOUSNESS as evidence of a Holy Life! All a person has to doin the Assemblies of God in order to be accepted as a "spirit filled Christian" is to master

the stammering lips and another tongue (something ANYONE can do really).

The Pentecostal movement set themselves up from the start to be a target for EVERY

FALSE CHRISTIAN to come in and, once mastering the "speaking in tongues" could

find their way into leadership without ever really committing to a Walk with Christ at all!

The Pastor of that Assemblies of God church invited guest speakers and faith healers

from the Assemblies of God movement into his church.

On one fateful day Charles and Frances Hunter (the acclaimed Assembly of God faith

healers and notorious "name it claim" preachers) came to town! There was much

excitement about their visit and in a tiny town like Marquette they filled a gymnasium tocapacity. Our Pastor played many of their videos during evening services in preparation

for the big "healing conference" coming up.

I was struck IMMEDIATELY by the fact that Frances Hunter was obese and wore


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glasses!

I'm not one on appearances, I'm not shallow. However, this was a woman that wasteaching that NO CHRISTIAN should have ANY PHYSICAL AILMENT if they believe.

The Hunters taught this as the foundation of their ministry. That disease had been

HUNG on the CROSS with Christ, even going so far as saying EVERY DISEASEKNOWN TO MAN had been placed on Christ as he hung on the cross (and that's why he

was unrecognizable).

I had to wonder. If Frances Hunter REALLY believed this why was she still wearing

GLASSES? Her husband could heal any disease IF YOU BELIEVE she claimed. Why

hadn't they got together and healed her stigmatism in her eyes? Why did she have an

obesity problem (every physician will tell you this is a serious physical ailment).

PHOTO OF CHARLES AND FRANCES HUNTER

Why am I being so hard on Charles and Frances hunter?

In our Church we had a woman in her early thirties who was twisted and stunted from

arthritis since the day she was born. She had been carried around on a gurney her whole

life. She was about the size of a seven year old child. I knew her and she was the mostfaithful and annointed Christian I had met thus far! She was the closest to Christ in her

walk I have seen (and have yet to see). She got all excited about the conference because

she became convinced by the videos and the encouragment of her family and of the

Church that the time of her healing had come and she was going to be made WHOLE atthe conference.

They took her to this conference every NIGHT! Every night Charles and Frances hunterand large groups of people prayed over this lovely spiritual woman for her to be made

whole! On the last night, at the end, when the healing did not come, Charles and Frances

Hunter told this beautiful sister in Christ something that I'll never forget. They told herthat the failing was not THEIRS but HERS! She just didn't have enough FAITH IN


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CHRIST!

She cried harder than I ever saw any person cry before in my entire life up to that point! Iwas LIVID! I was ANGRY (as Paul wrote) but I sinned not! I wanted to confront these

charlatans openly but the Spirit prevented me. The Spirit said "they won't listen to me,

they are NOT going to listen to you."

I quit going to that Church from that day forward.

The worse part about Charles and Frances Hunter, however is their teaching of physical

prosperity in the "name it claim it" fashion. This is basically that you only have to

"name" what it is you want from the Father, and then "claim it" and it will be yours, and

focus of this name it claim it is on physical prosperity (healing of sickness, financialproblems etc.) Charles and Frances Hunter preached that whatever you ask in the

Father's name he will give it to you. (Which is a sound principle) HOWEVER, they

DENIED that ANYONE could Walk in Christlike PERFECTION.

How can this be? If "name it and claim it" is true why can't I name a HOLY and

PERFECT LIFE, and then CLAIM IT? Especially when Christ said "seek ye first theKingdom of God and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS" and then all these other physical things

shall be added to you. If you don't believe they denied we could walk in perfection in

this life, here's a page

TAKEN FROM ASSEMBLIES OF GOD WEB SITEhttp://www.ag.org/top/beliefs/topics/gendoct_05_sanctification.cfm

Sanctification & HolinessThis document reflects commonly held beliefs based on scripture which have been

endorsed by the church's Commission on Doctrinal Purity and the Executive Presbytery.

What is the Assemblies of God belief about sanctification, and how does it differ from other

churches?

The basic idea of sanctification is that of separation or setting apart. In the Bible thewordssanctification and holiness are interchangeable. At the time a person receives

Christ, he is sanctified (1 Corinthians 1:30; 6:11), which means he has been separated

from his past life of sin and is now dedicated to God. From Scripture we find that theHoly Spirit is the One who sanctifies (2 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Corinthians 1:2; 1 Peter1:2).

We believe the Bible is clear in teaching that Christians should continue living a lifeseparated from sin and dedicated to God because, as the apostle Paul tells us, this is His

will for them (2 Corinthians 7:1; 1 Thessalonians 4:3). We call this the progressive aspect

of sanctification. The Scriptures speak of it in a variety of ways, such as growing in grace


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(2 Peter 3:14) and being gradually transformed spiritually (2 Corinthians 3:18).

The purpose of the sanctification process is that believers might become more and more

like the Lord Jesus Christ. Even though Christians may not attain absolute

perfection in this life, they are expected to make every effort to live a holy life,

because "without holiness no one will see the Lord" (Hebrews 12:14).

Some churches teach that sanctification is a one-time experience that takes place aftera

person has become a Christian, at which time he is made perfect. The Assemblies of Godteaches that sanctification takes place at the moment of salvation and then progresses as

the believer continues to submit to the control of the Holy Spirit.

The above statement is based upon our common understanding of scriptural teaching.

The official delineation of this position is found in Statement of Fundamental Truths,

Section 9.

All Scripture quotations are from the New International Version (NIV) unless

otherwise specified.

The Assemblies of God (and Charles and Frances Hunter) do NOT believe it is possible

to attain to christlike perfection in this life because of the Adamic Curse and because ofour being born "in the flesh" and they make no secret of this. You are only supposed to

"STRIVE" for it. Of course, they also teach that ONLY CHRIST was Holy and this was

because he was "God Incarnate" (which forever bars US from repeating his obedientlifestyle). Incidentally Assemblies of God claim to not be Trinitarian and they only

baptize in "Jesus" name because of it. Why? Because there's no Trinity, Jesus is GOD,

according to them and when you baptize in Jesus' name you are being baptized in the

name of the Father, The Son, and the Holy Spirit! It's Trinity, but it's not. They believein the deity of Christ, just not three Gods in one person. Figure that one out. I can't.

They CLAIM to believe that ANYTHING WE NAME AND CLAIM shall be granted,but DISCLUDE CHRISTLIKE PERFECTION in the deal, the ONE THING THE

FATHER WANTS MOST FOR US. They then focus on the "other things that shall be

added unto us" as the PRIORITY.

In short, their God is their belly and "gain is godliness."

So why did I go into all this lengthy detail, practically telling you my life's story (well to

be fair it is only HALF the story). I could have said much more, but the only reason I didthis was to demonstrate that I did not just fall off a truck somewhere, bump my head, and

come away with these ideas I'm writing here. They were given to me over time andexperience and through the school of "Hard Knocks," from which I have a Graduate

Degree.

Pentecostalism, as it was created and as it stands now is CLEARLY a false Spirituality

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1. They deny the basic Spiritual principle that LOVE is the greatest of all gifts (while at

the same time ironically teaching it). They put the lesser gift of "tongues" on a higherscale than Love, making it the "only evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit."

2. They preach "name it claim it" for things like new cars, homes, jewelry, whatever youwant but DENY that we can name and claim Christlike perfection in this life. (One

young fellow from an Assembly of God Church stood and shouted at me "that's a

dangerous doctrine" when I told him that we can attain to perfection in this life).

3. They do not adhere to the scriptures (which of course means they don't adhere to the

Spirit) when it comes to moving within the gift of tongues.

4. If you examine the practices of VOODOO (yes, I'm serious, Voodoo) you will realize

that modern Pentecostalism is CLEARLY Voodoo religion dressed up as Christianity.

Remember my story about reading through Isaiah and discovering how the Spirit workscross grain against human wisdom and precepts (doctrines) of men? Well, nothing

demonstrates this more than the Pentecostal DOGMA concerning tongues. I can hear thePentecostals now, "well, you already quoted Isaiah 28 where it clearly says 'with

stammering lips and another tongue I will speak to my people." To them, that's the only

proof they need that the gift of tongues is IMPERATIVE. They do not comprehend that

it is NOT the stammering lips and other tongues insomuch as it is WHERE the tonguescome from that matters (The Holy Spirit).

Tongues were a SIGN to believers that the promised Comforter had come. This is SOCLEARLY written in scripture it cannot be refuted whatsoever.

1 Corinthians Chapter 14: 1

(This is the landmark scripture on tongues, we will have to go over it in its

entirety to get it all).

"1 Follow after LOVE and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that you may

prophesy."

Dispensationalists and cessationists dismiss the "prophesy" part because they teach

prophesy is a "finished gift" and now that we have the bible "we don't need no stinkingprophets." How they explain two prophets preaching to the world in the FUTURE (the

two witnesseses of Revelation) is beyond me. (We'll get to that in a bit). Yet, Paul tells

us to desire to prophesy and in a moment he'll tell us why, while at the same timeshowing why prophecy is "more desirable" than speaking in tongues. (Yet, to hear

Pentecostals teach it, that statement is impossible being that tongues are the ONLY proof

of the infilling of the Holy Spirit and SOME branches of Pentecostals teach that youaren't even SAVED without the manifestation of tongues, so to them Paul was


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completely out of his mind saying that prophecy is more desirable than tongues).

1 Corinthians Chapter 14: 2 - 3

2 For he that speaks in an unknown tongue does not speak to men, but to

God; for no man understands him; howbeit in the spirit he speaksmysteries

3 But he that prophesieth speaks unto men to edification and exhortation

and comfort."

In his first comparison of the two gifts, prophecy and tongues, Paul tells us that tongues is

for "self edification" while prophecy edifies OTHERS! He's hinting (and he comes right

out later and says it) that someone who gives tongues the preeminance is "selfish" and is

interested more in his or her OWN edification than the edification of others.


"4 He that speaks in an unknown tongue edifies himself; but he that

prophesies edifies the Church.

5 I would that you all spoke in tongues, but rather that you prophesied: for

greater is he that prophesies than that speaks with tongues, except he

interpret, that the church may receive edifying."

Pentecostals miss the most important part of the above passages (especially those whosay that tongues are essential to being saved). If tongues are the ONLY evidence of

infilling of the Holy Spirit (and or the only evidence of your salvation) it would GO

WITHOUT SAYING that Paul wishes EVERYONE would speak in tongues! If tongues

were something more than a self edifying GIFT (such as PROOF OF INFILLING orPROOF OF SALVATION) I can promise you this is where Paul would have SAID SO

openly, and not said "ya it would be NICE if you all spoke in tongues." Furthermore, if

tongues are synonymous with infilling of the Holy Spirit and with Salvation itself heCERTAINLY would NOT have said he would RATHER we prophecy! The whole

notion is ludicrous.

Pauls says that the only times tongues are as desirable as prophecy is if there is anINTERPRETATION of the tongues and you know what? The reason for that is

COMMON SENSE. The minute you have an interpretation of the tongues, it BECOMES

prophecy! When pauls makes this exception he's saying, "tongues aren't as desirable asprophecy unless the tongues ARE the prophecy."

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"Now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I

profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by

knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?"

Well, you simply cannot get clearer than this. Tongues only profits the person who isspeaking them unless the tongues are interpreted and contain some sort of revelation,

knowledge, prophetic utterance, or even a doctrine.

1 Corinthians 14: 9

"So likewise, you except you utter by the tongue words easy to be

understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for you shall speak to

the air."

Paul is almost belaboring the point on this. He reiterates that you are just a bunch of hotair if you are speaking tongues among your brethren and you aren't interpreting (or if no

one is interpreting). Yet he goes even farther (he must have had a vision of theupcoming Pentecostal movement, really).

1 Corinthians 14: 12 - 13

"12 Even so you, forasmuch as you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that

you may excel to the edifying of the church.

13 Wherefore, let him that speaks in an unknown tongue pray also that hemay interpret."

I, again, can just hear the Pentecostal's protests! "We DO pray for interpretation of the

tongues and many times the church will go silent, someone will give tongues, and theneither interpret it himself or another will interpret." Yes, well, this is true but those

moments are surrounded by lots of moments where EVERYONE is speaking in tongues

all at once, gibbering that can sometimes reach a cacaphony of discordant voices. Tryinterpreting that.

Yes, well, (the Pentecostals will say) that's PRAYING in tongues, it's different than

speaking in tongues, praying in tongues requires no interpretation! Well, what does Paulsay about PRAYING in tongues? Next verse:

1 Corinthians 14: 14

"14 For if i PRAY in an unknown tongue, my spirit prays, but my

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15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the

understanding also: I will sing in the spirit, and I will sing with the

understanding also,

16 Else when you shall bless with the spirit how shall he that occupies the

room of the unleared say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he

understands not what you are saying?"

It looks to ME, my dear friends like Paul has just stated in no uncertain terms that there

must be interpretation of PRAYING in tongues when in GROUP prayer, otherwise howis anyone going to AGREE with you in that prayer and say "AMEN" they don't even

know what you are praying!

We will see in a little bit that Paul says if anyone comes in and you are all "praying" in

tongues at once the outsider will just think you are all insane. I don't want to break theflow here though so we'll stay on the verses.


"17 For you truly give thanks well, but the other is not edified.

18 I thank my God that I speak with tongues more than you all:

19 Yet in the church I'd rather speak five words of my own understanding,

that I might teach others also, than TEN THOUSAND WORDS in anunknown tongue."

Wow, people, especially you Pentecostals. Where does Paul get off saying somethinglike that if tongues are the "evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit" and also

"evidence of your Salvation?" Who is more edifying to the Body of Christ than one who

TEACHES from the INFILLING of the HOLY SPIRIT? If tongues is the PROOF of that

INFILLING then Paul has NO BUSINESS suggesting that it's better to teach WITHOUTspeaking in tongues. It's the same as Paul saying "it's better to teach the body of Christ

without the Holy Spirit." If tongues are the "evidence" of the Holy Spirit c'mon people

Paul has NO BUSINESS saying such a thing as what we just read!


"In the law it is written, with men of other tongues and other lips will I

speak to this people; and yet for all that they will NOT HEAR ME, says

the Lord."


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Yes, it is OBVIOUS Paul foresaw the Pentecostal Movement coming! For, indeed, they

have BOAT LOADS of stammering lips and other tongues yet STILL DO NOT HEAR

FROM THE LORD. That is because TONGUES CAN BE FAKED people.Furthermore, even if the tongues are real, if no one is interpreting them (especially

praying in tongues) then how is ANYONE going to HEAR the message or edification for

which the tongues were intended?

Yet Paul says that the scriptures in Isaiah 28 which predict tongues were talking about the

tongues being a SIGN of SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY. Namely the coming of theHoly Spirit who leads us to Christlike perfection!


"22 Therefore, tonges are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them

that believe not: but prophesying servs not for them that believe not, but

for them which believe.

23 If therefore the whole chuch be come together into one place, and all

speak with tongues and there come in those that are unlearned or

unbelievers, will they not say that you are mad?

24 But if all are prophesying, and there come in one that believes not or

one unlearned, he is conviced of all, he is judged of all

25 And thus the secrets of his heart made manifest; ans so falling down on

his face he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth."

Based on the above texts, the argument can be made (and Paul makes it) that if ANY

GIFT is "evidence of the infilling of the Holy Spirit" (God IN YOU) it's PROPHECY

NOT TONGUES! What does stammering in an unknown tongue prove? Does it provethat God is in you? Anyone can stammer in an unknown tongue people, it proves nothing

of the sort! It can only prove "God is in you" if there's an interpreter and someone's

secrets of their hearts are REVEALED by the interpretation of the tongues (in whichcase, guess what, it's not just tongues anymore, it's prophecy).

A whole ROOM full of people stammering in unknown tongues all at once, with no

interpretation does not make people say "wow God must really be IN them," it onlymakes people say "wow those people are really off their rockers!" Don't get mad at me

Pentecostals I didn't say this PAUL did, get mad at him!


"26 How is it then, brethren? when you come together, every one of you


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has a psalm, has a doctrine, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an

interpretation. Let all things be done UNTO EDIFYING"

Paul puts his finger right on the problem with modern Pentecostalism. Where is the

LOVE? Our desire should be to EDIFY ONE ANOTHER, NOT JUST FOR OUR OWN

PERSONAL SPIRITUAL EDIFICATION! When he says "let all things be done untoedifying" he means "edifying one another." Tongues without understanding

(interpretation) is SELF EDIFYING ONLY! It is NOT in keeping with LOVE (when we

are all come together and everyone is just stammering away at once in an unknowntongue).

Now Paul issues COMMANDS on the subject:


"27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by TWO, or at the

most BY THREE, and THAT BY COURSE; and let one interpret.

28 But if there be no interpreter LET HIM KEEP SILENCE in the

church; and LET HIM SPEAK TO HIMSELF AND TO GOD!

29 Let the prophets speak by two or three and let the other judge.

30 If any thing be revealed to another that sits by, let the first hold his

peace.

31 For you may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may

be comforted.

32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches

of the saints."

I was in one fellowship where the leader would point to Mary and say "okay, Mary, now

I want you to speak in tongues," then he'd point to Chris and say "and Chris youinterpret." I call this the "on-cue tongues prophecy."

It's NOT what Paul was talking about here. What he was saying is that IF it's of God, ofHIS HOLY SPIRIT (the tongues prophecy OR praying in tongues) then it WILL be by

twos or at the most by THREES (for God is not an author of confusion). If it's not by

twos or by threes, and each one speaking in due course and time, guess what IT'S NOTOF THE HOLY SPIRIT!


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This is DAMNING to the Pentecostal Movement for it condemns all the pandamonium as

PHONY or FALSE SPIRITUALITY (for God does NOT operate that way, period).Every Pentecostal church you've EVER been in where the whole room is stammering in

tongues at once, you can rest assured, according to the written word (and the Spirit) it

was NOT OF GOD'S spirit but was OF THE FLESH. According to Paul it was a roomfull of SELFISH PEOPLE SEEKING THEIR OWN SELFISH AND PERSONAL

SPIRITUAL GRATIFICATION WITH NO REGARD TO THE SPIRITUAL

EDIFYING OF OTHERS!

Damning! Truly damning.

I have tried to CONVINCE pastors of churches like this, using these scriptures andthey've ALWAYS rejected the message. Always! What does Paul say of them?


"If any man think himself to be a prophet, OR SPIRITUAL, let himacknowledge that the things that I write unto you ARE THE

COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD."

These are NOT just "suggestions" Paul is giving here. They are commandments of the

Lord because the Lord commanded us to LOVE ONE ANOTHER and LOVE DOESNOT SEEK IT'S OWN SELF GRATIFICATION OVER THE GRATIFICATION OF

OTHERS. (We will get to that scripture in a moment).


"38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant."

This has been my life long approach to those people who are in the Pentecostal

Movement and to the Pastor's that allow this sort of nonsense to go on. I will show themthe WORD and the COMMAND on it and if they don't receive it I depart from them!


"39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy and forbid not to speak with

tongues.

40 Let all things be done decently and in order."

Here we have the BALANCE then between the Pentecostals on one end of the spectrum

and the Baptists (tongues detractors, not just Baptists but they are the most vocal of the

group). Paul says covet to prophecy, he is telling the Pentecostal Movement the ERRORof their ways. As I said before if ANYTHING is "evidence of the infilling of the Holy


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Spirit" it's PROPHECY for it moves IN LOVE, to EDIFY OTHERS! (Which includes

tongues WITH interpretation for it is by definition PROPHECY). Then Paul speaks to

the Baptists (the cessationists and dispensationalists who deny tongues is even a workinggift), and says "AND FORBID NOT TO SPEAK IN TONGUES."

How do the Baptists and other tongues detractors completely miss this verse? We'llcover that in a moment, but it never ceases to AMAZE me that their Bible tells them not

to forbid speaking in tongues but they do it ANYWAY, all the while claiming to be a

"Bible Believing Church." What a mess!

PROPHECY IS OF LOVE,

THEREFORE IT IS EVIDENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

We kind of skipped a lesson here because we went right to 1 Corinthians 14. By the time

Paul wrote that chapter, however he'd already explained that LOVE was the GREATESTGIFT and WHY if you have either tongues or prophecy, if they are WITHOUT LOVE

they are FALSE (or nothing).


"1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels and have not

LOVE I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the prophecy, and understand all the mysteries, and

all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove

mountains, and have not love, I AM NOTHING.

3 And though I bestow all of my goods to feed the poor, and though I give

my body to be burned, and have not love, it profits me nothing."

I see a contradiction here looming. Do you see it? In chapter 14 Paul says that prophecy

is out of LOVE because he that prophesies seeks the "edification" of another. Yet, HERE

before that he says that even if you have prophecy, if it's without LOVE it's NOTHING!

That's simple to clear up though! Whatever you do, if it is not MOTIVATED BY LOVE

(even prophesying, or feeding the poor, or dying for someone in a fiery pit). If you do it

out of some RELIGIOUS SENSE OF COMPULSION and are not doing it out ofGENUINE LOVE, it's, well, I have to say it this way. It's CRAP. It's nothing!

Yet how can this be, in light of the "Love's Not A Feeling" craze of the late 1900's inChristianity! You may recall it! They began teaching that love is "not a feeling" it's a

VERB, it's a DO word. They absolutely taught this. That if you DO the things you

KNOW love requires (even if there's no feeling of love there in your heart) then you areLOVING SOMEONE. They completely CONTRADICTED PAUL'S WORDS HERE!


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They were saying "nonsense Paul," loves not a feeling, if you feed the poor that's what

LOVE DOES so it's LOVE! If you sacrifice yourself to the FIRE for someone that'sLOVE (it doesn't matter if you have any real love IN YOUR HEART because "love's not

a feeling).

This same craze sparked the "what would Jesus do" movement that still exists today!

People began to try and memorize and FIGURE OUT what the examples of LOVE are in

the Bible and then IMMITATE THEM. How phony is that?

I ask you, if you have GOD'S LOVE in your HEART do you have to have RELIGIOUS

SEMINARS to TEACH YOU WHAT LOVE DOES?

Paul says you don't!

1 Thessalonians 4: 9

"8 He that despises, despises not man, but God, who has also given unto

us his holy Spirit.

"9 But as touching brotherly love you need not that I write unto you: for

you yourselves are TAUGHT OF GOD to love one another."

Brethren, dear fellow children of God, I submit to you now that this is one of the

SINGLE MOST AMAZING scriptures in the Bible! Why? Because it says that we DONOT EVEN NEED THE MAJORITY OF THE NEW TESTAMENT!

I can see your eyes popping out now, but, consider, what is the New Testament made upof PRIMARILY? Epistles! Letters written from the Apostles to the various churches!

Here Paul is, saying that the Thessalonians "have no need" for him "to write to them"

about "brotherly love" for they are TAUGHT OF GOD to love one another BY THEHOLY SPIRIT!

We also know that Jesus and the Apostles said that the entire LAW (which is the OLD

TESTAMENT) all hangs on the two commands "LOVE GOD" and "LOVE YOURFELLOW MAN," and if you do this you FULFILL the LAW and become "a law unto

yourself."

If we LOVE, true love one to another we don't NEED the LETTERS OF PAUL (OR

THE OTHER APOSTLES FOR THAT MATTER) and we don't NEED THE WRITTEN

LAW. That's the Bible people! That's what it contains! We don't NEED the Bible if wehave the Holy Spirit of LOVE! So much for the NOTION we've been hearing about

having to MIMIC THE ACTS OF LOVE by STUDYING "what would Jesus do!" The

Holy Spirit teaches us directly what Jesus "would" and "does" do! Can you see thedifference here.


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And in the famous LOVE scriptures we are now reading, Paul says if you don't have this

LOVE, you can ACT OUT WHAT JESUS WOULD DO ALL YOU WANT (feed thepoor, give your body as a sacrifice) IT MEANS NOTHING if it's NOT TRULY

MOTIVATED BY THE SPIRIT OF LOVE! It's PHONY. It's FALSE SPIRITUALITY!

The movement in the 1900's where they were teaching "oh love's not a feeling it's

something you do" sounded GREAT but they were teaching PHONY LOVE whereby

you outwardly MIMIC CHRIST but inward the LOVE OF GOD IS NOT IN YOU.Because, if it's TRUE CHRIST LOVE you don't have to LEARN IT, you don't have to be

TAUGHT IT IN CHURCH, it JUST HAPPENS!

CHRISTIANS TEACH WE NO LONGER NEED LOVE

NOW THAT WE HAVE THE BIBLE

Consider if you will the Baptist (dispensationalist) take on the Subject. They teach the

OPPOSITE, that we don't need LOVE because we have the BIBLE! The followinginformation comes from Theopedia.com and it outlines the "cessationist" view of

speaking in tongues (which by the way is the dispensationalists view as well and isWELL incorporated into the Baptist teachings). I first learned of this doctrinal stand

many years ago when I was a Baptist. I assure you, what Theopedia says about the

cessationist view is ACCURATE. I have read TRACTS passed out in Bible school byBaptist teachers that stated the exact same thing you are about to read here.

I'm not kidding it's what they most definitely teach on the subject of PROPHECY ANDTONGUES! Before I post the ACTUAL information on this I will summarize for you.

Baptists (most) are "cessationist" in their view of not just tongues but prophecy. Theyteach from the very same scriptures we are now reading that "we know in part and weprophecy in part" and that same scripture says "tongues will cease." The teaching goes

on to say that "when that which is perfect is come" (and they interpret this to mean the

BIBLE) "that which is in part" (knowledge) shall vanish away! They then astoundinglyconclude that the knowledge which vanishes away is the "revelatory knowledge used to

WRITE THE BIBLE."

I ask you now, what WAS the revelatory knowledge used to write the Bible? The Holy

Spirit of course, from which we obtain GOD'S LOVE IN OUR HEARTS!

2 Peter 1: 20-21

"20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private

interpretation

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men

of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."


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There you have it then. The cessationist view (and primarily most Baptists) is that the

HOLY SPIRIT ceased to be NEEDED once the Bible was finished. Whereas I haveshown you that scripture itself says we DON'T EVEN NEED THE BIBLE TO TEACH

US TO LOVE because God teaches us through the HOLY SPIRIT. The Christians have

turned it UPSIDE DOWN and say "we don't need the Holy Spirit because we have theBible."

This is almost comical because the Bible can be tampered with and changed (and HASbeen changed). The Holy Spirit leads us and guides us into all truth, but Christians

(mostly the once saved always saved crowd) want us to believe that the "revelation era"

of the church is ENDED and the Holy Spirit (the revelatory knowledge it took to write

the Bible) has vanished away. All you need now, they say, is your Bible (and of coursetheir particular interpretation OF that Bible spoon fed to you from the PULPIT).

Here is a link to where I got the next information:

http://www.theopedia.com/Speaking_in_tongues

Speaking in tongues is one of the manifestations of the Spirit in 1 Corinthians 12:4-11.

And appears to be the same gift is in Acts 2:4 - "And they were all filled with the Holy

Spirit and began to speak in othertongues as the Spirit gave them utterance" (ESV). Theunderstanding of this gift differs greatly between Continuationists and Cessationists, and

is the probably most controversial issue separating the two camps.

Speaking in tongues is claimed to be is widely practiced today by Pentecostal and

Charismatic churches. Cessationists on the other hand reject that, and claim that such

ecstatic utterances are not the geniune gifts of tongues. They (cessationists) claim that thegift of tongues refers only to known languages, and were available only to the earlychurch.

Cessationist Understanding

The cessationist understanding of the gift of tongues, is that it refers only to known

languages (like Greek, Egyptian or Arabic), and not ecstatic speaking. At Pentecost this

gift allowed believers to communicate with foreigners in their native languages (tongues)which they did not previously know. These were clearly the existing native languages of

the foreigners. Continuatiuonists therefore, who see the gift of tongues listed in 1Corinthians 12:10 as an ecstatic utterance rather than a known language, must thereforedistinguish what Paul is describing in 1 Corintians from the tongues described in Acts 2.

A Cessationist argument from 1 Corinthians

Cessationism, is the belief thatspeaking in tongues as well as all the other miraculous and

supernatural gifts of the Apostolic era have ceased. This view understands 1 Cor. 13:8 to
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categorically state that at some point tongues will cease and that prophecy and

knowledge willpass away. [citations needed]

There is much debate regarding the timing of the cessation of the items mentioned in 1

Cor.13:8. In order to see when this occurred, or when it is meant to occur, the wordremain in 1 Cor. 13:13 needs to be examined in the light of its connection to the threeitems in 1 Cor. 13:8 which are said to cease/fade/vanish when that which is perfectis

come.

Tongues, prophecy and knowledge will cease before Jesus returns

In 1 Cor. 13:13, faith, hope and love are said to remain. For the word remain to make any

grammatical sense, then something else must first be removed. The things targeted to beremoved are mentioned a few verses back in 1 Cor. 13:8, namely tongues, prophecy and

knowledge. Even after these gifts are removed, faith, hope and love will remain.

Considering that the gift of faith (1 Cor. 12:9) will remain with mankind until Jesusreturns, then the items of1 Cor. 13:8 must be gone before this time. As already noted,

something must go before something else can be said to remain. It is not possible for thethree gifts of1 Cor. 13:8 to remain along with our faith and hope because that would besaying that the things targeted to cease will actually remain until the things that remain

cease. Logic dictates that the items in v.8 have to be gone in order for the items in v.13 to

be said to remain so tongues, prophecy and knowledge must cease before Jesus' return.[citation needed]

Prophecy and knowledge have ceased because the Bible is completed

It can be noted that the coming ofthat which is perfect(1 Cor. 13:10) is only linked to the

in partgifts of prophecy and knowledge and not to any other gifts. The inspired writers

of the Bible were given these gifts of futuristic prophecy and special knowledge.

Futuristic prophecy, such as in the book of Revelation, was given to these men to foretellthe things which God wanted to reveal to man.[citation needed] Supernatural knowledge was

needed to explain things like redemption, Christian living, church guidelines etc. When 1Corinthians was written, the Bible was incomplete ... it was in part, and that is why

prophecy and knowledge, in 1 Cor. 13:9, were said to be in part. When the Bible was

completed, this special, revelatory prophecy and knowledge ceased because all the future

prophecy and special knowledge, which God wanted us to have, was now contained inthe Bible. The wordperfectcan be translated complete orfinishedand these words well

describe our completed, that which is perfectBible. With the completed Bible, the in part

gifts of supernatural prophecy and knowledge were done away with and so today no onecan add to the Bible.

Face to face

The termface to face in 1 Cor. 13:12 is sometimes interpreted as seeing Jesus face to

face.[citation needed] However, reading on from the coming of perfection in v.10, we see thatv.11 speaks of leaving childish things behind and becoming mature. If this maturing

awaits Jesus' return then it means that believers will remain babes in Christ, never

reaching spiritual maturity, until that time. Passages such as Jam. 1:23-25, Heb. 5:11-6:3and Eph. 4:11-15 speak of a believer's growth and maturing in Christ through the Word
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of God. In 1 Cor. 13:12 the writer explains that now, before the perfect had come, they

saw things dimly but then, when the perfect had come, they would know fully. Like v.11,

this verse speaks of the growth from immaturity to maturity. Today, with the completedBible, a believer can mature in Christ, see themselves clearly (comeface to face), know

themselves as they are Divinely known and know God's full plan and purpose.

WHAT 1 CORINTHIANS 13 IS REALLY SAYING:

When you read the above "cessationist" view you MUST be reminded of Catholic

Dogma. You must! It is completely devoid of Spiritual meaning. It is a PRIMEexample of Isaiah's prophecy "precept must be upon precept and line upon line" and also

"their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men." They say that if our maturing

awaits Christ's return then we would remain babes in Christ until then (something Iwholeheartedly believe is true but they are standing on a false premise that we have to

wait for Christ's return to be perfect). According to the Apostles babes can only handle

the MILK and not the MEAT (and the MEAT IS THE SPIRIT). They clearly sell theentire church into carnal mindedness (because the Apostles taught if you cannot bear the

meat and can only stand the milk you are carnal and walk as men (instead of walking asChrist). Yet, they teach "the Meat" the Spiritual Revelatory knowledge that it took towrite the Bible is now GONE since the Bible is FINISHED. The MILK is the

SCRIPTURES (they don't even understand that part, I'm trying not to laugh) and the

MEAT is the SPIRIT OF REVELATORY KNOWLEDGE that comes from the Holy

Spirit. They are basically saying "we don't need the MEAT, the MILK IS FINISHED."

Those who came up with this ABOMINABLE DOCTRINE could NOT have been

hearing from the Spirit at all for they don't even understand that by saying "revelatoryknowledge has ceased" now that the Bible is finished, they NULLIFY the CROSS of

Christ, for the cross was to send us the Holy Spirit (the source of this revelatory

knowledge)!


"4 Love is long suffering and is kind; love does not envy, love does not

vaunt itself, is not puffed up

5 Does not behave itself unseemly, seeks not her own, is not easily

provoked, thinks no evil

6 Rejoices not in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;

7 Bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things

8 Love never fails: buth whether there be prophecies they shall fail;

whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it
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shall vanish away."

It is important to note right here that when it says "prophecy shall fail" it's in the contextof bringing us INTO OBEDIENCE TO THE FATHER! He begins by saying if I have

the gift of prophecy but have not love "I am NOTHING." He's trying to show us how to

SUCCEED and have the VICTORY OVER SIN IN THIS LIFE! Through LOVE! Hesays prophecis will FAIL to bring us the victory, tongues will cease to edify us, and

KNOWLEDGE will vanish away (or be hid), as we've read knowledge doesn't get you

anywhere. As Paul wrote to the Corinthian church "I determined to know nothing amongyou but Christ and him crucified." And as Isaiah said "the wisdom (knowledge) of their

prudent men shall be hid."

When it says "when that which is perfect is come" it's not talking about the "revelatoryknowledge it took to write the Bible here" it's talking about OUR PERFECTON

THROUGH LOVE, saying that you must have LOVE (through the Holy Spirit) because

prophecy won't get you to the place you want to go, neither will tongues, and knowledge

is USELESS, but LOVE is that which the entire law and the prophets hangs on. He wholoves can "do no ill will against his brother." It's how WE are perfected. As John wrote

"No man has seen God at any time. If we love one another , God dwells in us, and hislove is PERFECTED in us." (1 John 4: 12)

Love never fails to PERFECT those who live in it!


"9 For we know in part and we prophecy in part

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in

part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a

child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away

childish things."

It is WE who are to be perfected (not the Bible) in these verses. We shall GROW UP and

BECOME A MAN SPIRITUALLY, our love will be PERFECTED and at that point wewill no longer "know in part" for we shall "know as we are known." At that point

tongues, prophecy, knowledge will no longer be needed for we walk PERFECT before

God, in the "fulness of the stature of Jesus Christ." (We'll look at those verses in amoment).



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"12 For now we see through a glass darkly: but then face to

face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I

am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; but the

greatest of these is love."

We can now cross reference what Paul said about "we see through a glass darkly but then

face to face" with what John said:

1 John 3: 2- 3

"2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doesn't yetappear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall

appear, we shall be like him; for we shall SEE HIM AS HE IS.

3 And every man that has this HOPE in him PURIFIES himself

even as he is pure."

Dear friends, tongues, prophecy, partial knowledge, these things are all part of ourgrowing up together IN HIM until we mature. They are part of the FIVE FOLD

MINISTRY that was given to make us LIKE CHRIST.

Ephesians 4: 11- 13

"11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some,

evangelists; and some, pastors, and teachers;

12 FOR THE PERFECTING OF THE SAINTS, for the work of

the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge

of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the

stature of the fulness of Christ."

1 Corinthians 13 when it says "when that which is perfect is come" it's talking about


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OUR perfection, unto the fulness of Christ's stature! Love ultimately brings that about.

But Christianity has turned it ALL upside down and is literally PLOTTING TO KEEP

YOU FROM SUCCEEDING IN LOVE! How can ANYONE say they are notANTICHRIST?

What the Baptists, therefore, have done is FAR worse than the Pentecostals (but not bymuch) in that they completely DENY the ministration of the Spirit by saying it has

"vanished away" and now all we need is the Bible (when actually the Bible could vanish

away and we would still learn from God to love one another and be perfected IN THATLOVE)! The Pentecostals have only created a COUNTERFEIT and SELF SERVING

tradition of false spirituality that is actually based upon VOODOO.

VOODOO THE REAL SOURCE OF MODERN

PENTACOSTALISM

If you study the voodoo religion (a very ancient religion that is far older than both

Judaism and Christianity that originated from Africa) you will see that in this religion theGod's (actually these "spirits" are more similar to "saints" in the Christian faith) called the

"Loa" come to the worshippers during the service and "possess them." Those possessedare known to shake uncontrollably with their hands in the air, engage in Glossolalia

(same thing as speaking in tongues) fall on the floor rolling and convulsing (slain in the

spirit), appear "drunken" (drunk in the spirit). These are but some of the things thathappen. Occasionally one possesed by Loa will give "messages" to the congregation. It's

unfortunate that most internet sites erroneously state that voodooism is a blend of

"Pentacostalism" because in point of fact voodoo is FAR OLDER than the PentacostalMovement (and as I said older than Christianity itself). So if ANYONE has "blended"

practices into their culture it would be Pentacostal Christianity who has blended voodoo

into Christianity!

I was going to provide links on Voodoo but I am hard pressed to find WRITTEN and

ACCURATE descriptions of their main spiritual services, but I have seen them with my

own eyes and they are completely indistinguishable from a typical "Pentecostal" service.

Christianity is no stranger to blending other religious practices into their worship

services. The Catholic Church blended literally HUNDREDS of religious practices fromother religions from within the regions under their control into one "universal" (That's

what Catholic means) religion.

Catholic Pentacostals (yes there is such a thing) pray to the saints and the saints will"speak to them" through the possession of the Spirit! This is in fact IDENTICAL to

vodoo in every way. Pentacostals speak of the "Holy Ghost" which is a gross

mistranslation of the scriptures. God is not a "Ghost." They are then "filled with theHoly Ghost" (the same way in voodoo) and they become "possessed" by God (again same

thing as in voodoo.

None of this is scriptural of course, (as we have seen already) and is all self serving (self


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edifying) in nature and not according to the Spirit of LOVE! It's anyone's guess (if

Pentecostals are being FILLED with a spirit) who or WHAT this spirit is that is

possessing them, but we know from the scriptures that it CANNOT be the Holy Spiritsent to the world by Christ's cruicifixion.

I'm tired and I think I've said enough on this subject for one day.

I hope you will continue to read my books and articles.

Shalom for now

Jeffrey D. Dean, Sr.

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