Patience and Persistence: Building an Award Winning Liberty Seated Dime PCGS Registry Set Gerry...

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Patience and Persistence: Persistence: Building an Award Building an Award Winning Liberty Seated Winning Liberty Seated Dime Dime PCGS Registry Set PCGS Registry Set Gerry Fortin ANA Numismatic Theatre August 7, 2009

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Patience and Persistence: Patience and Persistence: Building an Award Winning Building an Award Winning

Liberty Seated DimeLiberty Seated Dime

PCGS Registry Set PCGS Registry Set

Gerry FortinANA Numismatic Theatre

August 7, 2009

Why Share This Presentation?Why Share This Presentation?

Supporting LSCC efforts to attract new membershipSupporting LSCC efforts to attract new membership

Publicity for the collecting of Liberty Seated coinage and Publicity for the collecting of Liberty Seated coinage and its challengesits challenges

Proud of collection and wish to share personal insights Proud of collection and wish to share personal insights about set buildingabout set building

Historical coins have investment value and can be a Historical coins have investment value and can be a diversification strategy…..imagine having fun while diversification strategy…..imagine having fun while pursuing long term investingpursuing long term investing…sure beats the emotional …sure beats the emotional ride of stock marketride of stock market

Gerry Fortin’s Bio?Gerry Fortin’s Bio?

Knowing the collector allows insights into the formation of his sets…..

Gerry’s parents were second generation Canadian immigrants; Gerry’s parents were second generation Canadian immigrants; father, a textile mill worker and mother, a sales clerkfather, a textile mill worker and mother, a sales clerk

Gerry started working at 13 to raise monies for state university Gerry started working at 13 to raise monies for state university education…first person in family history to enjoy secondary education…first person in family history to enjoy secondary schoolingschooling

After graduation with BSEE, employed by IBM, National and After graduation with BSEE, employed by IBM, National and Fairchild Semiconductor and now, CSMC Technologies in Wuxi, Fairchild Semiconductor and now, CSMC Technologies in Wuxi, ChinaChina

Expertise in engineering, operations, marketing and sales, business Expertise in engineering, operations, marketing and sales, business development and program managementdevelopment and program management

Set Building Imperatives!Set Building Imperatives!

The Liberty Seated Dime collection is active part of a retirement investment strategy…..

Patience, persistence and a long term outlook…don’t Patience, persistence and a long term outlook…don’t rush a project of this magnituderush a project of this magnitude

Significant collections can take several decades to Significant collections can take several decades to build… build… hard to fathom in today’s instant gratification hard to fathom in today’s instant gratification societysociety

Each coin is a financial investment… Each coin is a financial investment… do the homework do the homework and select the best possible coins that you can affordand select the best possible coins that you can afford

Eye appeal, originality, full strikes and PQ for the Eye appeal, originality, full strikes and PQ for the assigned grade = investment valueassigned grade = investment value

The Liberty Seated Dime SetsThe Liberty Seated Dime SetsRegistry set dime purchases starting 1988 through

2009; a 21 year journey…..

Multiple PCGS awards including 3 Best Classic Set awards Multiple PCGS awards including 3 Best Classic Set awards (2007-2009), a Best Presented Set award (2006) and a Most (2007-2009), a Best Presented Set award (2006) and a Most Improved Set award (2005)Improved Set award (2005)

Awards for best Date and Basic Set, Circulation Strikes, best Awards for best Date and Basic Set, Circulation Strikes, best With Varieties Sets, with and without the 1873-CC No ArrowsWith Varieties Sets, with and without the 1873-CC No Arrows

PQ examples are a priority! Purposely took several NGC PQ examples are a priority! Purposely took several NGC downgrades into PCGS holder to exhibit PQ coinsdowngrades into PCGS holder to exhibit PQ coins

PCGS illustrates the set as, “The Number One Finest Set of PCGS illustrates the set as, “The Number One Finest Set of All Times” All Times” but I humbly disagree……….probably the best set but I humbly disagree……….probably the best set of all times is the Eugene Gardner set which features a of all times is the Eugene Gardner set which features a combination of NGC and PCGS certified coinscombination of NGC and PCGS certified coins

The Set Building JourneyThe Set Building JourneyLiberty Seated Dime with Varieties set requires 121

coins which includes six major design changes and production at four minting locations

Major Design ChangesMajor Design Changes No Stars, Stars/No Drapery, With Drapery and Stars, With No Stars, Stars/No Drapery, With Drapery and Stars, With

Legend and inclusion of arrows at date during 1853-1855 and Legend and inclusion of arrows at date during 1853-1855 and again in 1873-1874again in 1873-1874

Minting LocationsMinting Locations Philadelphia, New Orleans, San Francisco and Carson CityPhiladelphia, New Orleans, San Francisco and Carson City

The Set Building DiscussionThe Set Building DiscussionPrimary Design and Mint Emphasis Areas

No Drapery design, With and Without Stars has No Drapery design, With and Without Stars has always been a favoritealways been a favorite

Grade rarity of 1840’s and 1850’s New Orleans Grade rarity of 1840’s and 1850’s New Orleans coinage and Carson City 1871 through 1874 key coinage and Carson City 1871 through 1874 key datesdates

San Francisco Civil War era coinage; 1861 through San Francisco Civil War era coinage; 1861 through 18671867

Balance of presentation to focus on selected Philadelphia mint highlights

No Drapery DesignNo Drapery Design

No Stars and With StarsNo Stars and With Stars1837 - 18401837 - 1840

1837 Large Date PCGS 23 in MS65, 8 graded higher F-101c..A spectacular variety with obverse and reverse die clashing combineF-101c..A spectacular variety with obverse and reverse die clashing combine

d with fully cracked obverse died with fully cracked obverse die This is the finest variety example … to my knowledgeThis is the finest variety example … to my knowledge Chris Pilliod highlighted this dime during its 1999 Heritage appearance; missChris Pilliod highlighted this dime during its 1999 Heritage appearance; miss

ed it then but bought when resurfaced in 2007ed it then but bought when resurfaced in 2007

1837 Small Date PCGS 4 in MS65, 3 graded higher F-104 variety with clashed reverse die from previous Large Date pairingF-104 variety with clashed reverse die from previous Large Date pairing Much rarer than the Large Date is same gradeMuch rarer than the Large Date is same grade Incredible surfaces, toning and strikeIncredible surfaces, toning and strike Purchase from Heritage 2003 Fall Long Beach salePurchase from Heritage 2003 Fall Long Beach sale

1838-O PCGS 11 in MS64; 5 graded higher www.seateddimevarieties.comwww.seateddimevarieties.com website trademark coin website trademark coin One of the marquee dimes in the set; originality, bold strike and One of the marquee dimes in the set; originality, bold strike and

rarityrarity Purchased from Eugene Bruder in 2002 in ICG MS65, took doPurchased from Eugene Bruder in 2002 in ICG MS65, took do

wngrade to PCGS MS64…no attempts to upgrade just PQ!wngrade to PCGS MS64…no attempts to upgrade just PQ!

1838 Small Stars PCGS 8 in MS65; none graded higher Late die state example with circular die crack through stars and dateLate die state example with circular die crack through stars and date Stars punch intended for half dimes but mistakenly used for one Stars punch intended for half dimes but mistakenly used for one

dime obverse diedime obverse die Purchased from Heritage 2004 Pittsburg ANA Auction; none Purchased from Heritage 2004 Pittsburg ANA Auction; none

certified MS65 after 2004certified MS65 after 2004

1839 PCGS 13 in MS65; 19 graded higher Common in Mint StateCommon in Mint State Patiently waited years to find the right example to match other No DPatiently waited years to find the right example to match other No D

rapery dimesrapery dimes Located this gem through RCNH June 2006Located this gem through RCNH June 2006

1839-O PCGS 1 in MS65; 4 graded higher Only 1 graded higher at time of purchase in 2006?Only 1 graded higher at time of purchase in 2006? Much more difficult to locate in Mint State than Large O varietyMuch more difficult to locate in Mint State than Large O variety Needle sharp strike and excellent eye appeal, could be the finest exaNeedle sharp strike and excellent eye appeal, could be the finest exa

mple of Small O variety…. mple of Small O variety…. a marquee specimena marquee specimen

1840 No Drapery PCGS 4 in MS65; 7 graded higher Moderately available in higher grade Mint StateModerately available in higher grade Mint State Like the 1839 date, waited many years to upgrade MS63 entryLike the 1839 date, waited many years to upgrade MS63 entry Purchased in NGC MS66 holder during 2009 FUN show and took dPurchased in NGC MS66 holder during 2009 FUN show and took d

owngrade to MS65owngrade to MS65 F-107 obverse with delicate needle strike and eye appeal…a PQ coiF-107 obverse with delicate needle strike and eye appeal…a PQ coi

n for assigned graden for assigned grade

1840-O PCGS 3 in MS62; 5 graded higher; rare in Mint State From Lovejoy collection, Stack’s 1990; Extremely rare Small O of 183From Lovejoy collection, Stack’s 1990; Extremely rare Small O of 183

9 variety9 variety Purchased in 1993 from Becker & Kuehnert via mailed flyerPurchased in 1993 from Becker & Kuehnert via mailed flyer Took 5 seconds to call B&K after receiving flyer…luckily there was sTook 5 seconds to call B&K after receiving flyer…luckily there was s

hort mail transport time from NH to Maine!!!hort mail transport time from NH to Maine!!!

Grade Rarities

New Orleans 1843 – 1853

Carson City 1871 - 1874

1842-O PCGS 2 in MS64; 1 graded higher; Mint State rarity

New Orleans 1842 dimes are notorious for weak strike details dNew Orleans 1842 dimes are notorious for weak strike details due to lapped dies and/or having micro defectsue to lapped dies and/or having micro defects

Top pop example purchased during 2003 from Jim O’Donnell; fTop pop example purchased during 2003 from Jim O’Donnell; finest known at time of purchaseinest known at time of purchase

1843-O PCGS 1 in AU53; 2 grade higher! Single die pair and extensive circulationSingle die pair and extensive circulation Grade rarity similar to 1871-1874 Carson City key datesGrade rarity similar to 1871-1874 Carson City key dates Wonderful originality as most EF or better 1843-O dimes have problWonderful originality as most EF or better 1843-O dimes have probl

emsems A sincere thank you to Kevin Zietler for providing opportunity in 20A sincere thank you to Kevin Zietler for providing opportunity in 20

03 to add this piece to registry set03 to add this piece to registry set

1845-O PCGS 1 in AU55; 3 graded higher! Like the 1843-O, another New Orleans grade rarity that is under recLike the 1843-O, another New Orleans grade rarity that is under rec

ognizedognized Spectacular strike, originality and Pittman collection provenanceSpectacular strike, originality and Pittman collection provenance Thank you Kevin Zietler for providing opportunity in 2003 to purchThank you Kevin Zietler for providing opportunity in 2003 to purch

ase your 1843-O and 1845-O PCGS AU55 dimesase your 1843-O and 1845-O PCGS AU55 dimes

1849-O PCGS 5 in MS64; none graded higher 1849-O examples are notorious for poor strikes or lapped dies….Jim 1849-O examples are notorious for poor strikes or lapped dies….Jim

O’Donnell despised 1849 New Orleans dimesO’Donnell despised 1849 New Orleans dimes Strong strike for Large O variety, the toning is spectacular Strong strike for Large O variety, the toning is spectacular Purchased in 2006 from Legend when only 2 examples graded Purchased in 2006 from Legend when only 2 examples graded

MS64….MS64….where did the other 3 come from so quickly???where did the other 3 come from so quickly???

1850-O WA PCGS 4 in AU53; 15 graded higher Rare in Mint State; total of 7 gradedRare in Mint State; total of 7 graded Most Mint State specimens seen are Small O reverseMost Mint State specimens seen are Small O reverse Last Mint State coin to appear at Heritage auction; MS65 in 2001Last Mint State coin to appear at Heritage auction; MS65 in 2001 This PCGS entry is a filler for date/mintmarkThis PCGS entry is a filler for date/mintmark Attempting to cross NGC specimen….see next slideAttempting to cross NGC specimen….see next slide

1850-O NGC MS67 Star

Finest certifiedFinest certified Purchased 2004 Pittsburg ANA from Jason CarterPurchased 2004 Pittsburg ANA from Jason Carter Attempting PCGS cross at 2009 ANAAttempting PCGS cross at 2009 ANA

1851-O WA PCGS 1 in AU53; 10 graded higher Another rarity in Mint StateAnother rarity in Mint State Heritage archives lists three mint state examples; ANACS61 (1996), Heritage archives lists three mint state examples; ANACS61 (1996),

NGC64 (1997) and NGC65 (1999)…excluding MS60 gradeNGC64 (1997) and NGC65 (1999)…excluding MS60 grade Current PCGS dime is filler AU53Current PCGS dime is filler AU53 One unsuccessful attempt to cross NCG MS63 exampleOne unsuccessful attempt to cross NCG MS63 example

1851-O WA NGC MS 63

Monster strike and balanced eye appealMonster strike and balanced eye appeal Initial cross attempt failed in 2008Initial cross attempt failed in 2008

1853-O WA PCGS 2 in MS63; 4 graded higher Under appreciated rarity in Mint StateUnder appreciated rarity in Mint State Waited over 10 years to locate an acceptable Mint State specimenWaited over 10 years to locate an acceptable Mint State specimen Eliasberg specimen finally re-entered market in 2008 via SuperiorEliasberg specimen finally re-entered market in 2008 via Superior Wonderful obverse strike Wonderful obverse strike that is typically flat on head and Stars 6-8 that is typically flat on head and Stars 6-8

(Obverse 1, F-101 through F-103)(Obverse 1, F-101 through F-103)

1871-CC PCGS 3 in EF45; 6 graded higher Locating original examples of 1871-CC through 1874-CC dimes witLocating original examples of 1871-CC through 1874-CC dimes wit

h no porosity, problems or re-coloring is significant accomplishment h no porosity, problems or re-coloring is significant accomplishment and requires much patience!and requires much patience!

Purchased during 2005 CSNS Heritage auction via Dick Osburn as aPurchased during 2005 CSNS Heritage auction via Dick Osburn as agent; from Tim Cook Collectiongent; from Tim Cook Collection

Several individuals who attend lot preview reported that Tim’s Several individuals who attend lot preview reported that Tim’s 1871-CC dime was gem for grade and finest coin in his collection!1871-CC dime was gem for grade and finest coin in his collection!

1872-CC PCGS 7 in EF45; 2 graded higher

Extremely rare in AU and Mint StateExtremely rare in AU and Mint State Finding problem free circulated examples is major challengeFinding problem free circulated examples is major challenge From Heritage 2003 NY Signature saleFrom Heritage 2003 NY Signature sale Strong details for EF45 grade; even gray toning over essentially Strong details for EF45 grade; even gray toning over essentially

problem free surfacesproblem free surfaces

1874-CC PCGS 5 in EF45; 4 graded higher The key date for any Liberty Seated Dime collection; critical acquisition foThe key date for any Liberty Seated Dime collection; critical acquisition fo

r a top PCGS registry setr a top PCGS registry set Finding problem free circulated examples is major challengeFinding problem free circulated examples is major challenge Trivia: Acquired from Heritage 2003 September Long Beach sale in ANATrivia: Acquired from Heritage 2003 September Long Beach sale in ANA

CS holder. Won the lot with internet bid of $24,600 while the hammer priCS holder. Won the lot with internet bid of $24,600 while the hammer price was $24,500. I was incredibly lucky (with pricing research) to win this ce was $24,500. I was incredibly lucky (with pricing research) to win this gem circulated example. Coin immediately crossed to PCGS.gem circulated example. Coin immediately crossed to PCGS.

With Legend Design

San Francisco 1861 – 1872

1861-S PCGS 2 in MS62; 3 graded higher Very rare in Mint State; few examples seen are typically in MS61-6Very rare in Mint State; few examples seen are typically in MS61-6

2 grades…most lack luster2 grades…most lack luster Delicate Type 1 obverse details that wear quicklyDelicate Type 1 obverse details that wear quickly Purchased at 2004 FUN show, the Heritage salePurchased at 2004 FUN show, the Heritage sale Well struck and reasonable example of low mintage S mint dateWell struck and reasonable example of low mintage S mint date

1862-S PCGS 1 in MS63; 2 graded higher Extremely rare in Mint StateExtremely rare in Mint State Norweb, Bolen and Richmond collections; excellent pedigreeNorweb, Bolen and Richmond collections; excellent pedigree Purchased from the 2005 DLRC Richmond salePurchased from the 2005 DLRC Richmond sale Strike and originality……… originally in NGC holder and crossed fStrike and originality……… originally in NGC holder and crossed f

irst attemptirst attempt

1863-S PCGS 2 in MS64; 2 graded higher Very rare in Mint StateVery rare in Mint State Reed Hawn, Lovejoy and Frog Run collectionsReed Hawn, Lovejoy and Frog Run collections Frog Run Collection; ANR 2004 Baltimore sale after private WolfsbFrog Run Collection; ANR 2004 Baltimore sale after private Wolfsb

oro showing with Frank Van Valenoro showing with Frank Van Valen…clearly the finest dime in the F…clearly the finest dime in the Frog Run collection and residing in NGC MS63 holderrog Run collection and residing in NGC MS63 holder

Trivia: High bid seconds before Frank V.V. hammer after watching Trivia: High bid seconds before Frank V.V. hammer after watching vigorous bidding between Legend, JJ Teaparty and Jason Cartervigorous bidding between Legend, JJ Teaparty and Jason Carter

1864-S PCGS 4 in MS64; 2 graded higher

Most available of the Civil War San Francisco mint years, 1861-186Most available of the Civil War San Francisco mint years, 1861-18677

Originality, full struck and excellent eye appeal; an adequate selectiOriginality, full struck and excellent eye appeal; an adequate selection for registry seton for registry set

Private 2003 transaction with Mike AtkinsPrivate 2003 transaction with Mike Atkins

1865-S PCGS 2 in MS63; 2 graded higher Marquee dime in registry set…obverse proof-like from deeply basinMarquee dime in registry set…obverse proof-like from deeply basin

ed die, reverse mainly frosty lustered die, reverse mainly frosty luster Extremely rare example of F-101 variety with full head! Nearly all Extremely rare example of F-101 variety with full head! Nearly all

F-101 come with flat heads.F-101 come with flat heads. Eliasberg pedigree. Heritage 1997 FUN sale via Chris Pilliod as floEliasberg pedigree. Heritage 1997 FUN sale via Chris Pilliod as flo

or agent.or agent.

1866-S PCGS 1 in MS65; none graded higher F-101 variety with weak S mint mark. Often mistaken for 1866 PhiladeF-101 variety with weak S mint mark. Often mistaken for 1866 Philade

lphia specimen by those with limited Seated experiencelphia specimen by those with limited Seated experience Investment grade specimen with balanced attributes of eye appeal, strikInvestment grade specimen with balanced attributes of eye appeal, strik

e and original surfaces; remaining Top Pop in set e and original surfaces; remaining Top Pop in set Heritage March 2006 Palm Beach sale; the last purchased example of Heritage March 2006 Palm Beach sale; the last purchased example of

the 1861-1867 S mints to complete the series in desired Mint State the 1861-1867 S mints to complete the series in desired Mint State rangerange

1867-S PCGS 4 in MS64; 2 graded higher

Once again, very rare in Mint StateOnce again, very rare in Mint State Purchased from ANR March 2005 Kennywood salePurchased from ANR March 2005 Kennywood sale Excellent matching eye appeal with 1864-S, 1865-S and 1866-s Excellent matching eye appeal with 1864-S, 1865-S and 1866-s

dimes… dimes…

1870-S PCGS 7 in MS65; 2 graded higher

More available in high grade Mint State due to a hoard surfacing in tMore available in high grade Mint State due to a hoard surfacing in the 1980s. Low mintage issue of 50,00 pieces.he 1980s. Low mintage issue of 50,00 pieces.

Purchased in 2001 from Jim O’Donnell.Purchased in 2001 from Jim O’Donnell.

1872-S PCGS 5 in MS64; 2 graded higher Another Seated dime date that is under appreciated in Mint State; Another Seated dime date that is under appreciated in Mint State; one die one die

pair and mintage of 190,000 piecespair and mintage of 190,000 pieces Acquired from Heritage CSNC 2005 sale; outstanding dime from the Tim Acquired from Heritage CSNC 2005 sale; outstanding dime from the Tim

Cook collectionCook collection Once again, eye appeal, originality and strike parameters are present; an Once again, eye appeal, originality and strike parameters are present; an

investment grade coin investment grade coin

Other Special Highlights

With Stars Design Philadelphia 1841 – 1859

With Legend DesignPhiladelphia 1860-1891

1841 PCGS 5 in MS65; 1 graded higher Probably the finest example of F-104 repunched 184 die varietyProbably the finest example of F-104 repunched 184 die variety Purchased in late 2002 via Heritage Santa Clara salePurchased in late 2002 via Heritage Santa Clara sale Dime fully meets criteria; original surfaces, strike and eye appeal….Dime fully meets criteria; original surfaces, strike and eye appeal….

simply a lovely gem!simply a lovely gem!

1846 PCGS 2 in AU58 and 2 MS63 examples Key date for series in AU55 or betterKey date for series in AU55 or better Incredible strike and eye appealIncredible strike and eye appeal Purchased during 2004 from RCNH while making China flight Purchased during 2004 from RCNH while making China flight

connection in Chicago O’Hareconnection in Chicago O’Hare Trivia: I had chance to buy one of the MS63 examples years ago but Trivia: I had chance to buy one of the MS63 examples years ago but

passed as $25,000 offer price seemed too expensive. Today this dime passed as $25,000 offer price seemed too expensive. Today this dime sits in EHG collection!sits in EHG collection!

1847 PCGS 3 in MS63; 3 graded higher 1847 rarity in Mint State is under appreciated1847 rarity in Mint State is under appreciated Interesting “cut away base” die variety; F-102Interesting “cut away base” die variety; F-102 Excellent strike, originality and eye appeal…no need to upgrade!Excellent strike, originality and eye appeal…no need to upgrade! Purchased during 2002 from Alpine NumismaticsPurchased during 2002 from Alpine Numismatics

1849 PCGS 7 in MS64; 2 graded higher 1849 rarity in Mint State is under appreciated1849 rarity in Mint State is under appreciated Excellent strike but wished the coin was tonedExcellent strike but wished the coin was toned Purchased in 2000 from Jason Carter in NGC MS64 holder….four Purchased in 2000 from Jason Carter in NGC MS64 holder….four

years later it crossedyears later it crossed

1850 PCGS 20 in MS64; 4 graded higher

Fairly available in Mint State so picking a great example is the Fairly available in Mint State so picking a great example is the challenge….challenge….

Pittman coin purchased via Park Avenue Numismatics in 2003Pittman coin purchased via Park Avenue Numismatics in 2003 I simply love the strike and eye appeal!I simply love the strike and eye appeal!

1852 PCGS 34 in MS64; 19 graded higher Common in Mint State so picking a great example is the challenge….Common in Mint State so picking a great example is the challenge…. Obtained from Heritage CSNS 2005 auctionObtained from Heritage CSNS 2005 auction Again, I love the strike, toning and eye appeal!Again, I love the strike, toning and eye appeal! Repunched date Repunched date adds a little icing to the cakeadds a little icing to the cake

1857 PCGS 19 in MS65; 2 graded higher

Common date for With Stars designCommon date for With Stars design

Strike, originality and eye appeal are all there…a gem Strike, originality and eye appeal are all there…a gem example that was worth the waitexample that was worth the wait

Purchase during 2006Purchase during 2006

1865 PCGS 2 in MS67; none graded higher Difficult in Mint State but more available than 10,500 piece mintage Difficult in Mint State but more available than 10,500 piece mintage

would suggestwould suggest Registry coin is clearly one of the finest available with proof like surRegistry coin is clearly one of the finest available with proof like sur

faces and reverse die striation lines faces and reverse die striation lines Purchased from Jim O’Donnell during 2004 FUN show after long sePurchased from Jim O’Donnell during 2004 FUN show after long se

arch for higher grade Mint State examplearch for higher grade Mint State example

1868 PCGS 3 in MS65; 1 graded higher The 1868 date is an enigma; mintage of 464,000 with 12 known obverse diThe 1868 date is an enigma; mintage of 464,000 with 12 known obverse di

es and low population in PCGS Mint State holders.es and low population in PCGS Mint State holders. This dime is one of the few in the registry set without full head details but This dime is one of the few in the registry set without full head details but

balanced eye appeal due to strong luster.balanced eye appeal due to strong luster. Originally appeared in Heritage 2001 Long Beach sale from Gulf Coast Originally appeared in Heritage 2001 Long Beach sale from Gulf Coast

collection. Re-sold May 2002 and purchased from Jason Carter in 2003 collection. Re-sold May 2002 and purchased from Jason Carter in 2003 after PCGS cross.after PCGS cross.

1869 PCGS 5 in MS64; 8 graded higher

Two separate date punches; Long Flag 1 and Short Flag 1 digitTwo separate date punches; Long Flag 1 and Short Flag 1 digit Nearly all Mint State examples are from Long Flag 1 obverse dies aNearly all Mint State examples are from Long Flag 1 obverse dies a

nd come well struck and proof likend come well struck and proof like During 1999, purchased from Chris Pilliod in ICG MS64 holder; During 1999, purchased from Chris Pilliod in ICG MS64 holder;

first PCGS cross attempt several years later successfulfirst PCGS cross attempt several years later successful

Additional Highlights

San Francisco 1856 – 1859

New Orleans 1860

Other Gems

1856-S PCGS 2 in MS62; 6 graded higher; rare in Mint State

First year for San Francisco dime coinageFirst year for San Francisco dime coinage Frog Run Collection; ANR 2004 Baltimore sale after private Frog Run Collection; ANR 2004 Baltimore sale after private

Wolfsboro showing with Frank Van ValenWolfsboro showing with Frank Van Valen…an experience not …an experience not to be forgotten……to be forgotten……

Again strike is incredible with lightly toned surfacesAgain strike is incredible with lightly toned surfaces

1858-S PCGS 3 in AU55; 8 graded higher; rare in Mint State

More difficult San Francisco year than 1856; finding problem free aMore difficult San Francisco year than 1856; finding problem free and original examples takes much searchingnd original examples takes much searching

Another Tim Cook dime from the Heritage CSNS 2005 saleAnother Tim Cook dime from the Heritage CSNS 2005 sale Strike is there along with original surfaces…..Strike is there along with original surfaces…..no need to upgrade to no need to upgrade to

Mint State exampleMint State example

1859-S PCGS 4 in AU55; 4 graded higher; extremely rare in Mint State

Occasionally seen in AU grades but quality of specimens vary due tOccasionally seen in AU grades but quality of specimens vary due to irregular reverse fieldso irregular reverse fields

Purchased from Jim O’Donnell during 2000 ANA summer showPurchased from Jim O’Donnell during 2000 ANA summer show Is there a need to upgrade this AU example and at what cost?Is there a need to upgrade this AU example and at what cost?

1860-O PCGS 3 in VF30; 15 graded higher Problem free original surfaces is a major challenge for 1860-O date Problem free original surfaces is a major challenge for 1860-O date

as most come with porosity or minor corrosionas most come with porosity or minor corrosion AT’ed examples can be certified by leading TPGs, caution is a must!AT’ed examples can be certified by leading TPGs, caution is a must! Most difficult to locate an example that is as original as this VF30 sMost difficult to locate an example that is as original as this VF30 s

pecimen….pecimen….butbut holding back the registry set score!holding back the registry set score! Purchased from Brian Greer in early 1999; typical Brian coin!Purchased from Brian Greer in early 1999; typical Brian coin!

1875-CC IW PCGS 10 in MS66; none graded higher

In Wreath variety more available in high grade Mint State than BeloIn Wreath variety more available in high grade Mint State than Below Wreath; same situation as circulated examplesw Wreath; same situation as circulated examples

Another registry set marquee dime with spectacular strike and originAnother registry set marquee dime with spectacular strike and originality in OGH; no attempts to upgradeality in OGH; no attempts to upgrade

Private purchase during early 2003Private purchase during early 2003

1876 PCGS 17 in MS66; 3 graded higher

Common in Mint State; challenge is locating top quality exampleCommon in Mint State; challenge is locating top quality example Neat variety with long die scratch across Liberty’s lower gown; qualNeat variety with long die scratch across Liberty’s lower gown; qual

ity consistent with investment attributesity consistent with investment attributes Acquired during 2004 via Pinnacle RaritiesAcquired during 2004 via Pinnacle Rarities

1881 PCGS 5 in MS66; none graded higher

Low mintage of 24,975 piecesLow mintage of 24,975 pieces 1881 date much tougher than 1879 or 1880 in Mint State1881 date much tougher than 1879 or 1880 in Mint State 2003 acquisition via eBay2003 acquisition via eBay

1884 PCGS 31 in MS66; 21 graded higher

Very common in Mint State; once again the challenge is locating suVery common in Mint State; once again the challenge is locating superior example for the grade and investment moniesperior example for the grade and investment monies

Registry coin exhibits incredible toning and eye appealRegistry coin exhibits incredible toning and eye appeal A 2004 acquisition from Mike Printz at Larry WhitlowA 2004 acquisition from Mike Printz at Larry Whitlow

1891-S PCGS 7 in MS66; 2 graded higher Difficult to locate in high end Mint State gradeDifficult to locate in high end Mint State grade Last date and mintmark ending the Liberty Seated Dime seriesLast date and mintmark ending the Liberty Seated Dime series Dime is excellent bookend specimen; superior strike and surfaces Dime is excellent bookend specimen; superior strike and surfaces

with light toningwith light toning Acquired privately via Darrell Low during 2005….Darrell still owes Acquired privately via Darrell Low during 2005….Darrell still owes

me dinner as part of the purchase me dinner as part of the purchase

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Thank you for the kind attentionThank you for the kind attention

Plans are in place to display the set at the Plans are in place to display the set at the November 2009 Baltimore showNovember 2009 Baltimore show

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