NAA: MP139/1, 401/201/3806

Series number: MP139/1

Control symbol: 401/201/3806

Barcode: 6010928

Number of pages: 26

HMAS PATRICIA CAM

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~, ,v ' I '_ ‘ _ . I/Viol vO"g;'\="E'I\rQ_ 27795 ix 401/201/3806. -"umrgauea M an A 1' I desire to acknowledge reeeipt of your letter dated21st larch, 1944 end to inform {nu that e cheque for £1M7|7in settlement or your eceonnt vi 1be despeiached to you in e‘ fw dayleL 7 Your-I faithfully,4kuaiu 'i E_ A.$;enke1-via),Y~ ecreter .A. C. lerber, Iaq., 'Ieval Architect,Royal Exchange Insurance Iuildinge,. 77 Pitt Street,e=/9-v W MY5 M “%£/W” . £75;$9

I910Ir. A. g. 3::-:0:-, uUyl lm IQYIIIK ml:77 an Strut 'ammz. u.£.I.44/- Hiaenlluaoua In Expenditure IA 7 7hwy ornu,In-oh ,19§4to casts in 6\1PP17ing plans and data relevantto "Patricia Cam" to 6.0. Platypus.Om and halt dayslocating, checking andpreparing for printing: 7 17 6Cost of blue print! 1 2Packing and postageOffice Chm!-gas __-,—::=:;——;‘ ;I_IT::Im r‘ ,:__aQ .---g.-sun van u 7 7Iaval BoardCarrol . 401/201/3806 .Ship RU‘! ¢

Q.\ .—‘‘ »\ ””“““*‘""“' emfsrnsnlsusn 1sx2 ,¢ F7§:r\ . .’ ' , . 1' ~v ‘VL ; L O / \__ . _BVVGOB4PLANS. spscmcmrons moDETAII5 Pnmmasn 1-‘onRACING AND AUXILIARYYACI-ITSSTEAM AND DIESELPROPELLEDVESSELSISLAND LUGGERS ANDPEARUIRSHYDROPLANB AND UFHERI-IIGI-I SPEID I-IULLSDEIAIL PLANS FOR AMATEURCONSTRUCTIONSTABILITY AND OTHERCALCULATIONSSUPERVISION -INSPECTIONAND VALUATIONDWI“?/W,./"ii[L W ? C. B A R B E R /M/'20/-51%’, . "fillll_§‘ NAVY. (-D[.~.NfAV;AL ARCHITECTROYAL EXCHANGE ASSURANCE BUMES77PITTSTREET,SYDNEY......21.=z>=I....v..,..I..........1941/4-The Secretary,Department of the Navy,Navy Office,Melbourne. S.C.L.Dear Sir,"Pntricig Cam".Reyly No. 9085Your letter Ne. 401/201/QSOG32%’With reference to the above matter I amprepared toaccept the amount of £14-7-7 in ‘;ZIl"Yours faithfully,settlement of the above matter. I _ ‘

IMI-HST<_ ,,~—<‘" "‘:"“L' . "\.»»\ Iif-’_v‘ ‘_ ,\J “ .'-~\ V1 \‘ 401/:01/asoc. '/\ I “E1,¢@Q-1 ‘J!/—"fI I7 F E8 1944Dear Sir,PATRICIA OAKV I dean-e to aelmowledgereceipt of your letter of12th January, 1944, and to inform you thatthe Departmentcannot agree to accept your claim for 549.7.-. for theinformation aupplied in regard to ‘Patricia Gan".The Department ie, however, agreeable to pay youthe aum of £14.’?-7. for your trouble in thia latter.: I ahall begla if you will adviae your acceptanceof this amount when a cheque in aettlament will be forwarded toyou.K You:-a faithfully,(A. a OPY1le)o r e t a r .‘ e C Q Bu'b'r| B.qO 5 "“"“""*-\Iaval Architect, E:~ Royal lxchange AaauranceB1d3a., ~ n 1;;'7"! Pitt Streetsmut, I:8.I. -V _ I 1?.‘ JV“—s< 1&>in. ___ D $7“ /VU 2’/ywfé

1TI ' TDEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY / oh 7/75IMINUTE PAPER %)l&€Ol/580$;$UWECT= "PATRICIA CAM"Reco nd payment of £14. '7. '7d., which sum should 'more than compensate Mr. Barber for his trouble. In the eventofMr. Barber refusing to accept, it is recommended that the,‘transaction be referred to the Crown Law Authorities for aruling.I .ii!/'!14"’P‘ Dir tor of En5ineering__(Naval)2;t§ y, 1944.Q/Hw/mt 91%-¢<, I,».1 \}/33‘P“QQ

\ 1TELEPHONEBW6084PLANS. SPECIFICATIONS ANDDI-TFAILS PREPARE) FORRACING AND AUXILIARYYACHTSSTEAM AND DIESEL PROPI-ILLEDVESSELSISLAND LUGGHS ANDPEARLERSI-IYDROPLANFS ANDOT}-IERHIGH SPEED HULLSDETAIL PLANS FOR AMATEURCONSTRUCTIONSTABILITY AND OTHERCALCULATIONSSUPERVISION - INSPECTIONAND VALUATION/// /56‘)/§L~¢~<n AAnu$u0\. _. ESTABLISHED1912A.C.BARBER ,nf\I”A VIXVLEIYCNHINT 'ROYAL EXCHANGE ASSURANCE BLDGS.77IUTT STREET SYDNEY1........... .]QLhiJanu:r94Y4A.R. Nankervis,Secretary to the Dept. of the Navy,Navy Office,MELBOURNE.S.C.l.Dear Sir,PatriciaCalm 4-o%2o//580 Q,In acknowledging receipt, your re erence No.127l83 in envelope containing thirteen plans only.In regard to the above matter, it is respectfullysubmitted for your re-consideration thefollowing factsrelating to the supply of plans and data to the CommandingOfficer "Platypus".On Friday the 30th October 1942 a letter by airmail was received asking for all available information '(on the assumption that this wasurgently needed), theplans and data were dispatched on Monday 2nd November, 1942.lt being not specifically stated that the planswere required for loading purposes, the whole of the avail-able data was released, no doubt youwill appreciate thatthe releasing of this data covering the construction of ahighly efficient shallow draft vessel, constructed through-out from local hardwoods is of infinite value to those in-tcrested, and the possession of this datawhich has takenyears of research to obtain is part of the Architect's skilland knowledge.The amount of £49-7-O charged for this work ismade up as follows:-One and one half days locating checkingand preparing for printing 7 176Cost of blue prints l 2 7Packing & postage _,~1-ii 2 6£9 2 75 5 Q_§I4 T T>1?Office Charges. J

_ 2 _Forward 14 7 7» Value of vessel say £14000A minimum remuneration of onequarter of one per centumof value of vessel covered bythe plans and data supplied 55 O 0£49 7 ¢*E:ELIn reviewing the above statement ofaccount youwill no doubt appreciate that the writer is the onlyNaval Architect available to the Public as a consultant‘and does not receive any Salary whatsoever from'anyGovernmental department.You will also appreciate that it isnot necessaryto copy data of this kind hy those interesteo.1 too appreciate that if the plans were intendedas a guidance to the loading of the vessel they are nowof no further use to your Commanding Officer.ln thesecircumstances l shall be pleased toreceive a cheque covering the amount of £49-7-1&0Yours faithfully,T>¥?-Fwe

I — ; In-'““~-~- eim/wQe;_;_‘1' IDEPARTMENT OF THE N " iMINUTE PAPER. _ w‘T 1\/A‘\,/Y_ /-~~ 39$? \~— -'.___ ” LSvB:E¢T= H.M..-\..‘>‘. "PATRICIA cm" - DR_i;WI1{Q§_,b.//-..§i(~J\£%;§=§§i: *€§£>u¢¢c4n;,Submitted./7//zaMr.Barbe appears to have forwarded completedrawings of the vessel and his charge would be reasonable,if the Department required them to build a vessel to hisdesign. As this was not so but to find out her constructionforloading etc., it is suggested that as "PATRICIA CAM" isnow lost, that the drawings be returned to Mr.Barber witha declaration, that they have not been copied and a requestsubmitted at the same time asking for a substantialreductionin his charge.‘f gi __ _16th December, 1945. <:::::§i;j::ii2EE:ifE?*»J)

51- £3391n1m>1.Y'P1.mszz n _ /_’?&/ J8 6 A1/._<>':':=zv=_~'~*~'~‘- _ \ =”I 1 g H " ’ Q ll 1' 4r'! '~ -‘~..;:1\.Ll. ,._\."\._;_ p _ ‘;;.;;j 7 December, 1O”fU1Tl;e:"\7'relating to"Patricia ”has rendered_ \ ustrztlmn Ea(I)C‘O~m%-~-W_ \/\J L,,." "' .—'-\'4. O...'.\"IklF(S\¥4 W|| V 4..‘T!-11 .‘/‘O 7 Tm. ~~‘~~~ pwg 1; - ;: -:'_ r: .-/_|_ I__3F2__:~‘ _"‘_~- _-.;\_; _0:Ln-_._ >_"";'\Y0-(flI;_~i~;,;+.¢¢_~.*_ .‘_~.#»-- -u.lt>2@ gor the ;n;orx.t1on 0; uh: Irv¢1locrd with rwfcscnce. TCcfoer, 19f}, theELDS TfluV;_ Jcw=H(7;,»_1Ft 1+VJ cl-Omy lGt?'r I0, L;_2OE/T/7947 of'Chs6 cogies of further lettersj0Clfi""ti0nc of 3.Y_A_€,- . .¢—P-3for wnicl A,G_ Burner, Q-vr1 Apchiggt,WM ucmount “or£49_,_O_A/ConuRnder_ P,A___

F————4———'~—-—~._i./“*' ' ' ““” * W 7 "VCOPY.A,C, BARBER' NAVAL ARCHITECT IROYAL EXCHANGE ASSURANCE rtwasThe Trval Officer in Charge,€AIRIS§T.T.§ “JIYSLAIYD.D¢rr Sir,. E77 l-'IT’l‘ sur, synzrmr, '26Nov, 1943,\.. _. ,..._H_-.|_1 *_¢_";§1..s_q_l.r_._nTR_i_cié'..__L' :4 H ‘I hive been instructed WY 15¢ Civil Secretvry;Gréen Islvnd, to forvnri the attached aqcounts togetherwith the oorresjonicnce re1PtinQ to s@me_Trusting thatthis matter will receive youre:1‘r1y 0011517 er." tion ,A1Yours fc.it11;‘11lT?;y , ;LS;<, A_C_ Barber, I

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I\?,~__1 {J , /7 Qtnmmunhaealtl) at Zlustralia {K Q1/0/'20/-%éVnmnmm nf um» Navy. 13RupaI Qustralian ahp.IWvn1Waxalmmnficenninzhange,WDARJIH@WMMWWWMMWMMWMWMWWmMm_-Date.........1.Q.I;fl....II.QMifihJ;.,.....AQéé..-.......................Reference N0.....H.....1‘....{¥Z.€¥[.l.§ ........ ..' gjib .............. .EhemSenretany,mHayalMBQaxd@mWwMmMWMwmm ........ .M ..... “WWW- _ -é/7Su@€%§g@nsmMQEWWu,meA-s,22AIR1QIAWQeu1-WWm "W. WWWy7~H'7 with reference to Navy Office Letter 401/201/5806(112521) dated the 10th November, 1945, be pleased to inform theHavel Board that the plans ofH.H.A.S."PATRICIA CAM" have beenforwarded under separate rolled cover.. ' ,1 /V 4&9:/,2, \ QEL/Z;,e\‘ L ,¢\i:=\(LT; /\\ e

../ -_DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY » ' ‘* ~\ ‘MINUTE -PAPER ‘HY T401/201/sacsSUBJECT: PLANS OF H.’M..l‘».S. "PATRICIA CAM" //\ _ ///Dir-ectory of N1 ‘V '// The plans supplied by Mr. Barber would beprints taken fromexisting tracings.About £5 would cover the actual cost ofprints and typed matter. Another £5 for Mr. Barber's time andthe remaining £39-7/- for knowing how to design the vessel.Since no estimate was asked for or offered, Isubmitthat this account be paid.27.10.45. s. N. c. (ship).t éz,/(LU;/§,_;. 59 /QT .1aéw V '4, W.-;it“;ZW;,.j 2"?"/. A -.””""'g..~...’f, 1if ¥‘ %“M; £2-/,-,,/131:; A »e¢<./40 /Y0/é¢:>§a‘F¢ ¢<> ///W48/éwé-;(¢, '("

F '9“, , . s ';.,_ tnealt of Qustraluar =-4+ =-NCEx rt . Dgtparlmrnlhnf Uh: Nam. ixq/L\‘\/Y. .. __ M‘ - A - -n--\- A--.- ._.._.>, an i_"1 _ .‘.¢ in '7€~'YQ‘v‘ .“' ~ _ I<€0/ .2o/ E5206 iikupal Qustralaan iahy. M ---1--+- 1.From ..... ..-n.M.A..s.........!11?LAn:y2ns!:. ...... -§.,/Date..__. .... oiYbm__mMWWMIHEM$EQRETARX*MNAXlL_BQARD@iNA¥!WQEEIQE,MMELBQURN-5kec\\¢¢§ai_s,, subject-,...44....n..,.m...:eI¢g§:o2....nn.m..A..§,_g,!!2Am;gy_.cAu".XDSubmitted for the consideration of the NavalBoard, the attached account frm A.C. Barber, Naval Architectof Sydney, for the am of £47-9-0 for the preparation 'of plans andspecifications of H.M.A.S."Patricia Cam".2. It is now apparent that when inquiring ofA.C. Barber, as to whether he had plans and for specificationof "Patricia Cam" available, the then Commanding Officer,of H-M.A.S. "Platypus"had no intention of incurringexpense to the Grown. However it appears that A.C. Barbertreated "Platypus" inquiry as a definite order and wentahead and produced detailed plans and specifications.5. Copies of correspondencereferring to thistransaction are attached, but no trace can be found ofthe original eomunication to A.C. Barber.] H‘ ;/, / kzméi./». ” /’ ” V 5; , A/COMMANDER, R.A.N.T WW”4 I /ll,,,"’Q _ Age” 1q%o as. /- - 2 =-»-~/~ /°“"",.. . _ /as/1» -1 ~ 9/4-Q-Jim2 8 dew 1943 -9"/<>. f 11,09__

cosy. ‘’ Cmmanding Officer, H.M.A.S. "PLATYPUS".121st. August, 1945. PP. 202/9/$614.Commanding Officer, H.M.A.S. "PENGUIN".§UPPLY OF PLANS ETC. OF H.M.A.S. "PATRLUIA CAM" BYA.C. BARBER, NAVALARCHITECT-The attached account for £49—7-O for supplyingset of blue prints, etc. of "Patricia Cam" has been receivedin H.M.A.S. "Platypus".2. From the file attached - which is incomplete, itwould appear Acting Ccmander J.Donovan, R.A.N., then inCommand of H.M.A.S. "Platypus" may have knowledge of thecircustances leading to their supply. As it is possible thatit may not have been intended to incur cost to obtain theseplans, no FinanceAuthority to cover cost of purchase wouldexist,5. It is requested that Lieutenant Commander Donovanmay report any circumstances that he may recollect connectedwith the supply of these plans.,uH(Sgd) G.L. ems.eA/Commander, R.A.N.H.M.A.S. "PENGUIN".(H.M.A.S. "GASCOYNE".)at Morts Dock, Bahmain.14th September, 1945.The Commanding Officer,H.M.A.S. "PENGUIN".Submitted:I do not think that my letter to Mr. Barber, ofwhichI have not a copy, could reasonably be interpreted as a ServiceOrder to supply a set of plans at a price of 47 guineas. Therewas no financial authority obtained as it was never intended toto incur any expense.The contingentcircmstances, which may be of interestwas as follows. "PATRICIA CAM" was at that time a tender to"PLATYPUS" operated by N.O.I.O. Darwin. I was in considerabledoubt as to whether she was sufficiently strongly constructedforanything other than local duties particularly in the "wet"or bad weather season. She had been built for Cam and Sons Pty.Ltd., Trawler Owners of Sydney and had been transferred fromtheir ownership to H.M.A.Navy. I heard fromthe Engineer Officer 5of "CAS'1‘I-EMAINE" (I forget his name) who had Joined the Navy fromthe employ of Red Funnel Trawlers, that when "PATRICIA CAM" was 1under construction, Mr. Cam insisted on incorporating someofhis own ideas so extraordinary that the Naval Architedt,Mr. Barber ‘withdrew frm supervision of her construction. Engineer Officer '"OASTLEMAINE" expressed the opinion that if I wrote to Mr.Barberhe would probably inform meas to these circumstances of her Cconstruction and agree»\ t I mention his name in my letter toMr. Barber. Mr. Barber n his reply made no mention of this Jincident but informed me of the duty for which she was designedand alsoincluded a set of plans which were ultimately 18Hd6@n&to N.O.I.C. Darwin on transfer of "PATRICIA CAM" to "MELVILLE". _1 (Sgd) J. nonovm., Lieutenant Gommander. » g V 1,. . * '. .‘v,,\\ _____,______ __, ___ ___ __,_, _ _J_____.. .,...; __.....h...._,£__==-.-;a=m=_l¢':~‘ I

COPY.P. 275/'1The Cqmanding Officer,H. M.A. S . "PLATYPUS"I—-I-i-——-iii,Forwarded for information with reference to yourPP. 202/9/5614 or 21 st August, 1945.(Sgd) RUPERT amen.a/CAPTAIN.BALMQRAL NAVAL DEPUI‘.16th Sepyember, 13145.

COPY-THE SECRETARY TO NANEL OFFICER-IN—CHARGE, CAIRNS.18th AUGUST, 1945-BASE ACCOUNTNAT OFFICER, CAIRNS.§UPPLY or PLANs Erq. or n.g.A.s. "PATRIQ;§ CAM" BYA.s. BARBER, NAVALARCHITECT, SYDNEY.In accordance with your instructions the followingnotes are forwarded in connection with the account rendered,dated 22nd Jua, by Mr. A.C. Barber.At the time supply of these prints was made,"PatriciaCam" was a tender to H.M.A.S. "platypus" on the Darwin Station.On approximately the 5rd December, 1942, the accounts of "PatriciaCam" were transferred to "Melville" and all correspondence filesdealing with this shipwere also handed over. This explains whythere is no record in "Platypus" prior to the 5th February, 1945.In the first instance, Commander J. Donovan thenCmmanding Officer of "Platypus" wrote to Mr. Barber, asking fordetails of"Patricia Cam's" construction and intimated that anyplans and specifications that were available would he of useto Department of the Navy, as this ship had been commissioned intoH.M.A. Service.I believe that CommanderDonovan, like myself, wasunder the impression that these plans were being supplied free ofcoat. As far as can be remembered, N.O.I.C., Darwin, was unawareof the step taken to secure "Patricia Cam's" history and noauthorityfor any expenditure was sought.At the same time similar requests were made to otherfirms in Western Australia and'8outh Australia to supply detailsof construction of H.M.A.S. "Southern Cross" and.H.M.A.S. "Yampi""Lass". Inthese cases, however, the firms approached, wereunable to supply plans but did supply specifications and thehistory of the craft without charge. I(sga) J.F. STEWART.Pay Sub-Lieutenant, R.A.N.R-_ ~_a_a__ __. at lll~_ asl I

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