Myths & Their Meaning

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Myths & Their Meaning Part I: Theory and Method

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Myths & Their Meaning. Part I: Theory and Method. What are we asking?. Do myths have meaning? Must we read myths as having meaning? Myth and Theory ( Myth , 10) Can theories explain myth? Do we need theories to explain myth?. 2. 2. Cilicia. Lycia. Europa ’ s sons & lover. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Myths & Their Meaning

Part I:

Theory and Method

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What are we asking?

•Do myths have meaning?

•Must we read myths as having meaning?

•Myth and Theory (Myth, 10)

• Can theories explain myth?

• Do we need theories to explain myth?

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Europa’s

brothers

Europa’s sons & lover

Lycia

Cilicia

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Theories about myth

•Scientific

•Philosophy

•Psychology, sociology

•Literature

•Religion and ritual

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Three questions (Myth, 2)

•Three questions

• Origin

• Function (“need”)

• Subject matter (“referent”)

•Definition of Myth

• A story (narrative, plot)...

• ...about something significant...

• ...in which the main figures are personalities.

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The Myth of Adonis

•Descent from the Gods

•The wrath (anger) of the gods

•Aphrodite against children of Cinyras

•Artemis against Adonis

•Aphrodite against Smyrna (“weeping” myrrh)

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The Goddesses in the Myth

•Aphrodite: sexual passion

•Artemis: hunting

•Persephone: underworld, cycle of spring and fall

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Adonis (in Ovid)

•Myrrha encased at the end of her pregnancy; weeping

•No conflict among the goddesses for Adonis

•Venus

•Meets Adonis as young man, not baby

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•Causality

•X causes Y

•“laws”? (fixed connection)

•I know whereever there is Y, there has been X prior to it

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•I don’t see causes

•Events coincide

•They do so “most” of the time

David Hume on causality

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•X ➵ Y

•X ➵ not Y

•Not X ➵ Y

•Not X ➵ not Y

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Has humanly produced carbon emissions caused global

warming?•Not merely: is there global warming since humans have been around?

•But: has there global warming without ACP?

•Has the rate of global warming significantly increased since large-scale carbon emissions have occurred?

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Myth & Science (1)

•Myth is really scientific

•“creationism”, Feng shui, yoga

•“true” vs. “modern”

• “rationalizing” [pp. 11-12]

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Myth, Science, Logic(2)

•“Primitive science”

• “pre-”scientific explanation for events

•Mythic and scientific explanations cannot be held simultaneously

•Logic

• Is myth a way of thinking or doing?

• Is myth logical or non-logical? 16

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Theories (1)

•Tylor

• myth literal, but primitive, reading of physical events

• if primitive, ➛animism

• if modern, ➛philosophy

•Frazer

• myth explains the ritual, that effects events

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Theories (2)

•Malinowski

• myth happens when primitives can no longer control the world

• reconcile to world

•Lévy-Bruhl (25)

• myth as “participation mystique”-- pre-logical

• Do we feel connected to universe?

• Detachment ➛ science or philosophy 19

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Religion vs. Science: Theoretical Distinctions (Myth,

32-33)•Religion• Horton: “closed” and uncritical

• Popper: dogmatic

•Science• Horton: open

• Popper: second-order

•Do open societies have myths? Are scientific theories myth-like? 2

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Personal ImpersonalMental Material

Not predictable/testa

blePredictable

Particularistic Generalized

TeleologicalEfficient

causation

Tylor: science and myth are incompatible (pp.

17-18)

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Myth, science, personality (cont.)

•Are personal causes empirical (31)?

•although not scientific (Horton)

•Is science better “truth”?

•More effective “truth”

•How do we explain the continuing co-existence of myth and science (24)? 2

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Is Myth Philosophical?

• Paul Radin: yes: “ultimate components of reality”

•Cassirer: no: myth emotional, “atavistic”

• Myth deals with non-controllable world

•The Frankforts: philosophical vs. “mythopoeic” thinking 2

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Plato against Myth (1)

•Gyges’ ring

•The traditional view of the gods and human action

•What shapes human character: the gods or deeds?

•Fate (Anthology, 366-7)

•Ritual23

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Plato against Myth (2)

•Myths give a “bad image” of the gods (Anthology, 364-5)

•What is this image (365)?

•How does Plato know this is “bad”?

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Plato: Anthology 365-6

•God is good

•How does Plato know this is true? 366 top

•Contrary to the myths

•What is his motivation?

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Philosophy beyond mythClassical Mythology, ch. 4

•Muthos and logos (Plato)

•A myth about myth

•Allegory and Mythology (p. 64)

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Allegory

•Moralizing myth

•“meaning something other than what is said”

•Moral metaphors (##54, 69)

• “Scientific” metaphors (#56)

•Is there a truth to the story? 2

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Myth and the Human Sciences

•How do myths help us interpret the human condition?

•The Oedipal Myth (Apd M6; Hyg. 66-68)

• Kingly son separated at birth

• Attempt to avoid awful destiny

• Ends up fulfilling destiny

• Murders father; incest with mother 28

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The Oedipal Myth (2)

•Maimed

•Natural disasters

•Savior become enemy

•Cycle of “dysfunction”

•Laios’ kidnapping of Chysippus

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The Oedipal Myth (3)

•Fate

•Oracles create the problem they try to stop

•“Whom am I?” What is his role in the drama?

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Freud and Rank

•Oedipal myth interpretative key• “vents Oedipal desires... (Myth, 94)

•Is Oedipus a hero” (Rank)?•Victory over fate

•Gaining infantile desires

•Does it hinder development or enable (98, 100)?

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Joseph Campbell

•Myth of the hero

•Adult, not childhood identity

•Basic pattern of “monomyth”: separation–initiation–return

•What does the hero discover?

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Alternative myths for psychology

•Jung: Puer-archetype vs. Hero

•Antigone: ethics, gender equality

•Cupid and Psyche

•Awakening of the “Soul” to “Pleasure” 3

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Final Questions on Psychology

•Which comes first, the myth or its interpretation?

•Is the myth exhausted (fully disclosed) in the interpretation?

•How do we know what myth to use?

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Myth & Society: Malinowski

•“Unpleasantries” & “impositions”

•Structures embody the system of social relations

•Necessary to order

•Ritual enacts

•Control: science & myth 35

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Myth & Society: René Girard

•Society constructed in violence

•“scapegoat” chosen to end violence

•Myth justifies projection of guilt on the sacrificial victim

•“Villains” and Heroes 36

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How Myths “work”

•Classical Mythology, pp. 28-32

•Architecture of Palatine Hill•Where Rome was founded

•Portico of the Danaids

•Cybele: ecstatic sexuality/castration

•“Myth works relationally” (38) = “context” (32)

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Myth and Literature

•Why tell stories?

•The Grail myth: mystical oneness

•The Hero myth: suffering–redemption

•Story = narrative ?

•Story vs. Philosophical “essence”? 3

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Finding “kernals of truth”

•CM, 16: are stories always biased-- do they always have an agenda?

•Does myth have a common plot (Myths, 88)?

•What does the plot tell us?

•Why tell a common story in so many variations? 3

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The Europa Myth

•Classical Mythology, ch. 1

•See p. 7

•Roman imperial mythology: unified Europe

•What part of the story do you focus on?

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Development of myth: Santa Claus

•Retelling old stories in new ways

•St. Nicholas or Odin?

•Christian charity or gifts at “Yule”?

•“A Visit from St. Nicholas” (1823); The Life and Adventures of Santa Claus (1902)

•Thomas Nast (1863); Coca-Cola (1930s)

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Myth and Literature: Summary

•Self-conscious story, defines how community thinks of itself (Classical Mythology, 29)

•Which narrative does one identify with?

•If all myths are stories, are all stories myths?