IRAS AND TRUSTS David B. McKinney. SCOPE. ALL IRAS EXCEPT ROTHS. MANY QUALIFIED DC PLANS.

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IRAS AND TRUSTS David B. McKinney

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IRAS AND TRUSTS

David B. McKinney

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IRAs

SCOPE.ALL IRAS EXCEPT ROTHS.

MANY QUALIFIED DC PLANS.

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IRAs

PLAN TERMS CAN REDUCE YOUR OPTIONS.DC PLANS – REAL CONCERN.

“BIG BOX” PROVIDERS.

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IRA TAX BASICS

INCOME – ALWAYS TAXED WHEN DISTRIBUTED.

TAXED WHEN ASSIGNED.DON’T ASSIGN OWNERSHIP TO A TRUST OR FLP!

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IRA TAX BASICS

ESTATE TAX:NO STEPUP.WITHDRAW: TWO TAXES!

SELL STEPPED-UP ASSETS TO PAY.

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IRA TAX BASICS

HORROR STORY:$1,000,000 IRA. AT DEATH:( 400,000) ESTATE TAX @40%

( 240,000) INCOME TAX @40%

$ 360,000 NET TO FAMILY

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IRA TAX BASICS

OKLAHOMA MAY EXEMPT SOME DISTRIBUTIONS FROM STATE INCOME TAX.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

BEST SOURCE OF AFTER-DEATH CHARITABLE BEQUESTS:NO ESTATE OR INCOME TAX.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

INSTALLMENTS: DEFER INCOME TAX.RMDS.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

“LIFE EXPECTANCY”:65: ABOUT 88.MARRIED, BOTH 65: ABOUT 92.

AGE 90 RULE.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

PLANNING FOR DEATH:Pay: 1 Yr., or 5 Yrs. or RMD.

OLDEST RMD FOR ALL. ▪SEPARATE ACCOUNTS.

NO RECALCULATION.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

BENEFICIARY CAN ELECT:INSTALLMENTS.

▪NOT IN 401(k)/DC? BUT ROLLOVER …

IMMEDIATE PAYMENT.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

BENEFICIARY CAN INVEST.

MULTIPLE BENEFICIARIES.

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TRUST AS BENEFICIARY

WHY WOULD YOU DO IT?

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IRA TAX PLANNING

VALID, IRREVOCABLE, TRUST.HUMAN BEINGS AS BENEFICIARIES.

IDENTIFIABLE UNDER ALL POSSIBLE SCENARIOS.

THE ADMINISTRATOR HAS A COPY OF THE TRUST OR LIST OF ALL BENEFICIARIES & CONDITIONS TO ENTITLEMENT.

(a)The trust must be a valid trust under state law;(a)The trust must be irrevocable or become irrevocable upon the IRA owner’s death;(b)The trust must have identifiable beneficiaries who are to receive the interest in the IRA; and(c)The trust document (or a certified list of all beneficiaries, including contingent and remainder beneficiaries, and a description of conditions on their entitlement to the interest in the IRA) must be provided to the plan administrator.

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IRA CLAUSE FOR TRUSTS

HANDOUT.TRUSTEE CAN ALLOCATE TO CHARITIES OR HUMANS.

PLR RIGHTS.“RESIGN.”EDUCATION.

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IRA TAX PLANNING

1099 GOES TO THE TRUSTEE??CHARITIES!POWERS OF APPOINTMENT

DISQUALIFY.REQUIREMENTS FOR SPOUSES?LOCATION OF PROOF – NOTICE

TO ADMINISTRATOR?“BIG BOX” PROVIDERS?

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PROBLEMS IN TRUSTS

INSOLVENT TRUST OR BENEFICIARIES.

SHORT-TERM TRUST WITH INSTALLMENTS.

TRUSTEE SOPHISTICATION. INVESTMENT AUTHORITY.OLDEST RMD FOR ALL.FAMILY DISPUTES.

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SOLUTIONS:

PLR 201241017: SEPARATE THE IRA INTO ACCOUNTS.

TRUSTEE-TO-TRUSTEE IRA TRANSFERS

EACH IRA IS “INHERITED.” RMD: OLDEST BENEFICIARY.

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SEGREGATED TRUST

[DISCUSSION]

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SOLUTIONS:

CAN THE TRUSTEE DISCLAIM AND PASS TO INDIVIDUALS?NEED CONSENTS.ATTRIBUTED TO THE BENEFICIARY?

REVIEW THE IRA’S DEFAULT BENEFICIARIES.

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SOLUTIONS:

DISTRIBUTE IMMEDIATELY AND PAY THE TAXES.THE DEFERRAL IS NOT WORTH MUCH!

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LOCK-IN IRAS

CONCEPT.NEED: FLEXIBLE TRUSTEE.LOCAL TRUSTEES …

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LOCK-IN IRAS - REASONS

BLENDED FAMILY.SPENDTHRIFT.AGE GAP.UNSOPHISTICATED TRUSTEE.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

INVESTMENT DIRECTION.

CREDITORS – DECEDENT OR BENEFICIARIES.

SHAKY MARRIAGES – BENEFICIARIES.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

TRUSTS WITH CHARITIES OR POAs.

MEDICAID.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

FLEXIBILITY: YOU CAN DO ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD DO WITH A TRUST.

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LOCK-IN IRAs

DISCLAIMERS.QTIP.BYPASS, CREDIT SHELTER, GST TERMS.

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LOCK-IN IRAs

EXTRA DISTRIBUTIONS.HEMS OR OTHER STANDARDS.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

YOU ALSO CAN:SEPARATE ACCOUNTS & RMDS.

SEPARATE INVESTMENTS.PRE-SET THE INSTALLMENT METHOD.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

CURRENT PROJECT: LOCKED-IN IRA WITH MEDICAID SUPPLEMENTAL BENEFIT TRUST TERMS.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

AVOID A GENERATION OF INCOME/ESTATE TAXES.

PREVENT SECOND SPOUSE ROLLOVER.

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LOCK-IN IRAS

AVOID DISTRIBUTION TO THE DECEDENT’S CREDITORS.