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  • Happy day after St. Patricks Day Lads and Lassies!Best of luck with the green First Installment Celebration of Reading on the novel that is located in your team folder.

  • Tuesday, March 18The Vietnam WarCORExtraTruth or Fiction?Your QuestionsClip by #sFIBNovel Rounds

    BizzPortfolioCalendarEC for guest speaker next week

  • 1st Installment 4thWest sideErinJonahCheyenneLeentjeOliviaAriAaronNicholasEzraJoey

    East sideAllyKoltonJulianGabbyIvanDavidBrandonAspenDanielTylerZach

  • 1st Installment 7thSouthTristynMercedesLisetteChariSavannahVictoriaTrevorMaddieBradenMeghanJacob D.NorthJacob C.WyattNitashaJacob R.VictorJeffTylerLindseyHollieGavinTanner

  • 1st Installment 8thSouthAthertonSydneyMeganAllieMichelleZayneRebeccaEnnitEdgarAlexisSavannahNorthShelbie D.AlexKellyIndianaShelbie C.CarlyLauroClaytonIanAlecKateGerrod

  • Howdy!http://www.teachingushistory.org/pdfs/VietnamPoliticalCartoons.pdfPlease answer the questions about the political (white) Vietnam War cartoon that is in your team folder.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg9e4B3pLQA (images)

  • Thursday, March 20Vietnam WarCartoons and ImagesQuick ReviewCliphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuMjex6nehEMore FIB notesRoles for 2nd InstallmentVeterans for EC BizzPortfolio CheckEC Other Supreme Court CasesMake Life Sizer

  • Quick Review1958,000 +2111,0005FranceNixonCommunismViet KongPublic supportUnderground tunnels200 billion

  • Hi!Best of luck with the Second Installment of the Reading COL that is in your team folder (purple).

  • Monday, March 24VietnamCORMore FIBWhite Boards and timelineTonkin Gulf Incident ReadingDiscussion Circles

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  • Second installment 7th LisetteVictorMercedesTristynLindsayNatashaConradCloverJacob C.MaddieJeffTannerWyattBryceJacob D.VictoriaJacob R.SavannahBraden

  • Second Installment 8thAlexisCarlySyndeyEnnitAthertonAllieMeghanShannonShelbie D. (whole class)KateSavannahRebeccaIanAlexEdgarDaxtonZayneKelly

  • Happy Tuesday!We have a special guest with us todaya Vietnam Veteran.Please grab an index card and write three questions that you would like to ask our guest.Yes, write your name on the card.

    Thank you!

  • Happy Day Before the Big Break!Please complete a purple self-evaluation from your team folderWrite your name at the topAdd the totals at the bottom

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  • Thursday, March 27Please grab the purple handout with Vietnam songs. Please read the first song and answer question #1 in Log # 2 for fourth term.

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  • Thursday, March 27Vietnam songsFinish FIB notesMarch Madness ReviewThe My Lai MassacreReadingClipPrep for TrialGuest Speaker or segments

    Clip from the Things They Carried (finish 7th)Zinn ReadingLightning RoundsLine UpThe War and Social ClassBizzSelf Evaluation on ParticipationOral History ProjectEnd of term tomorrow!

  • Vietnam Soldiers and Social ClassWorking-class and poor youth composed a full 80 percent of the enlisted ranksThe military was determined to channel bourgeois and even middle-class youth away from combat. This was done through a variety of methods:student deferments,payoffs to doctors to declare potential recruits unfit, technical deferrals, draft board biases,connections (like Dan Quayle's) that get you into the stateside National Guard.

  • The purpose ... was for you to walk up on Charlie and for him to hit you, and then for our hardware to wipe them out. We were used as scapegoats to find out where they were. That was all we were -- bait. They couldn't find Charlie any other way. They knew there was a regiment out there. They weren't looking for just a handful of VC. Actually, they'd love for us to run into a regiment which would just wipe us out. Then they could plaster the regiment (with air strikes and artillery) and they'd have a big body count. The general gets another damn medal. He gets promoted. "Oh, I only lost two hundred men, but I killed two thousand."

  • Welcome Back!Using the index card, please draw or describe a memorial that you would create for Vietnam War veterans.

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  • Happy Spring!Please answer T for True or F for False in the Before column of the green Vietnam paper in your team folder.

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  • Friday, April 4Guest speaker from Vietnam (7th)My Lai Massacre (8th)ReadingVideoPrep for trial and trialDiscussionThe scaleline upExcerpts from Zinn readingFinal Installment NovelClip with the authorCOR and Lit CirclesMore FIBVietnam poetryFinish Review (7th start 4th and 8th)Essay about Vietnam

  • 4th Final InstallmentNorthZachLeentjeDavidErinIvanTylerGabbyJoeyJulianOliviaSouthEzraKoltonNicholasAriAllyJonahDanielCheyenneAaron

  • 7th Final InstallmentNorthVictorSavannahChariBryceMercedesJacob C.MaddieGavinJeffLindsayHolleeSouthTannerMeganConradVictoriaWyattJacob R.BradenLisetteTristynNatashaTrey

  • 8th Final InstallmentNorthKateAllieAlecShannonAlexMeganCarlySyndeyRebeccaIanGerrodAlexisSouthZayneSavannahShelbie D.EnnitShelbie C.KelleyMichelleClaytonIndianaEdgar

  • Happy Spring!Please answer T for True or F for False in the Before column of the green Vietnam paper in your team folder.

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  • Monday, April 7Guest speaker from Vietnam My Lai Massacre ReadingVideoPrep for trial and trialDiscussionThe scaleline upExcerpts from Zinn readingFinal Installment NovelClip with the authorMore FIBSlap it ReviewVietnam poetryBasketball Review (7th Finish start 4th and 8th)

  • Whazzzz up?Please read the Vietnam War poetry (yellow) that is in your team folder and answer the questions at the end of the poetry in Log #3

    Moooooooochas Gracias!

  • Wednesday, April 9My Lai MassacreSurveyTrialMore FIBRLGL

  • Yo!Please take the following papers from your team folder:

  • Yo!Log # 4Had you been a teenager in the late 1960s (knowing what you know about Vietnam), do you think that you would have been for or against student protest movements against the war and why?Go to slide #86

  • Yo!Please take the following papers from your team folder:White Nixon and Kerry handout2 people take the blue packet2 people take the pink packet

  • Thursday, April 10Protests and the Warhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGfWbuZIqB8FIBReadingsFinish My Lai TrialReviewGiant Game Board

  • 7th Trial RolesBaliff: Jacob D.Judge: BassProsecution: Jeff, Lyndsey, BryceDefense: Wyatt, Lisette, TristynCalley: Victoria, Savannah, TreyHaeberle: Jacob C., Conrad, NitashaHugh Thompson: Meghan, BradenPaul Meadlo: Gavin, Maddie, VictorCharles West: Jacob R., Mercedes, TannerMedina: Hollee, Chari

  • 8th Trial RolesBaliff: GerrodJudge: BassProsecution: Atherton, Alexis, KateDefense: Shelbie D., Michelle, ZayneCalley: Kelley, Indiana, MeganHaeberle: Shelbie C. , Edgar, EnnitHugh Thompson: Carly, Savanna, ShannonPaul Meadlo: Alex, Syndey, ClaytonCharles West: Rebecca, Allie, LauroMedina: Alec, Daxton, Clayton

  • 4th Trial RolesBaliff: NicholasJudge: BassProsecution: David, Aspen, JonahDefense: Brandon, Ezra, Ally N. Calley: Cheyenne, DanielHaeberle: Olivia, Tyler, Hugh Thompson:Kolten, Erin, Paul Meadlo: Ivan, Julian, GabbyCharles West: Leentje, ZachMedina: Jori, Ari, Aaron

  • Prep for the TrialAttorneysCraft Opening StatementsReview Questions for the witnessesAssign whos doing whatWitnessesWrite answers to the questions that you will be asked (direct and cross examination)Assign whos answering which questions while on the stand

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  • Friday, April 11ProtestsReadingsClipVietnam FIBFinishReviewGiant Game BoardCOLTeam SectionEssay

  • Line UpThe US promoted democracy in Vietnam.The Viet Kong used effective approaches when soliciting support for its cause.The US had motives in Vietnam that extended beyond the fight against communism.American Presidents who led during the Vietnam War appreciated the intelligence of the American public.

  • Line UpThe Gulf of Tonkin Incident supplies a solid reason for sending more troops to Vietnam.US approaches reasonably drew hatred from the Vietnamese.Those who published the Pentagon Papers should be charged with treason.The working and poorest classes can largely be thanked for the anti-war movement.The anti-war protests had little effect on government actionThroughout most of the war, most soldiers remained loyal to the war effort.

  • March MadnessTriangular TradeContributions of Native AmericansColumbusColumbian ExchangeThe Americas before ColumbusThe Middle PassageSlaveryAbolitionistsAffirmative ActionLincolns views on slaveryCauses of the Vietnam WarReasons the US lost#s associated with the warThe Things we CarriedUS approaches to the war

  • Court Martial of Lt. William CalleyProsecution--GovernmentAttorneys:

    Hugh ThompsonRon HaeberlePaul MeadloDefenseAttorneys:

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  • Black HistoryFinish Dred Scott CaseConclusion clipOther casesFinish Film

  • Dred Scott Casehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qlXBNwmoTw (minute 6:00 or minute 8:00 for the decision)7 rolesSome with 4 questionsClip minute 8:25

    Tell us about yourselfDoes Dred Scott have the right to bring a lawsuit against his owner?Did the fact that Dred Scott resided in Free territory change his status from slave to free? Is he free?

  • Other Court CasesPlessy vs. FergussonBrown vs. Board of Education

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    SouthAaronIvanAriJonahDavidKoltonWyattJacob D.LeentjeJulian

  • Life SizerTrace someoneKeep it G RatedSelect the most important contributions of the person you researched6 Truths about the Person 2 Lies about the person (Label with A, B, C or 1, 2, 3Make it difficult!Put the answers on the back of your Life SizerDraw 3 symbols that represent your person

  • Where is Vietnam?

  • Why Did the United States Fight a War in Vietnam?Basically to hold the line against the spread of world Communism. America paid for the war the French fought against Communist Vietnam as a part of the Truman Doctrine (1947) to help free peoples to maintain their free institutions and their national integrity against totalitarian regimes. In the 1950s, America became involved again.

  • Longest and Most Unpopular WarThe Vietnam War was the longest and most unpopular war in American history. During the war:58,000 Americans lost their lives.The oldest man killed was 62 years old; the youngest, 16.61% of the men killed were 21 or younger.304,000 were wounded.75,000 were severely disabled. The United States spent over $200 billion dollars on the war.

  • Conflict Between France & VietnamThe Vietnam War grew out of the long conflict between France and Vietnam. In July 1954, after one hundred years of colonial rule, a defeated France was forced to leave Vietnam.Nationalist forces under the direction of General Vo Nguyen Giap defeated the allied French troops at the remote mountain outpost of Dien Bien Phu in the northwest corner of Vietnam.

  • The Geneva Peace AccordsThe Geneva Peace Accords, signed by France and Vietnam in the summer of 1954, provided for the temporary partition of Vietnam at the 17th parallel, with national elections in 1956 to reunify the country. In the North, a communist regime, supported by the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, set up its headquarters in Hanoi under the leadership of Ho Chi Minh.

  • Opposition to Geneva AccordsThe United States prevented the elections that were promised under the Geneva conference because it knew that the Communists would win. Secretary of State John Foster Dulles thought the Geneva Accords granted too much power to the Communist Party of Vietnam.He and President Dwight D. Eisenhower supported the creation of a counter-revolutionary alternative south of the 17th parallel. This was accomplished through formation of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO).

  • A New Nation in the SouthUsing SEATO for political cover, the Eisenhower administration helped create a new nation in southern Vietnam. In 1955, with the help of massive amounts of American military, political, and economic aid, the government of the Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam) was born. The following year, Ngo Dinh Diem, a staunchly anti-Communist figure from the South, won a dubious election that made him president of South Vietnam

  • The Domino TheoryAmerican policymakers developed the Domino Theory as a justification for the involvement. This theory stated, If South Vietnam falls to the Communist, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Burma, India and Pakistan would also fall like dominos. The Pacific Islands and even Australia could be at risk.

  • South Vietnam Under DiemDiem claimed that his newly created government was under attack from Communists in the north.In late 1957, with American military aid, Diem began to counterattack. He used the help of the CIA (through Operation Phoenix) to identify those who sought to bring his government down and arrested thousands. He passed a repressive series of acts known as Law 10/59 that made it legal to hold suspected Communists in jail without bringing formal charges.

  • Opposition to DiemThe outcry against Diem's harsh and oppressive actions was immediate. Buddhist monks and nuns were joined by students, business people, intellectuals, and peasants in opposition to Diems corrupt rule. The more these forces attacked Diem's troops and secret police, the more Diem complained that the Communists were trying to take South Vietnam by force. This was "a hostile act of aggression by North Vietnam against peace-loving and democratic South Vietnam."

  • The National Liberation FrontThe Communists supported the creation of a broad-based united front to help mobilize southerners in opposition to the government in South Vietnam. On December 20, 1960, the National Liberation Front (NLF) was born.It brought together Communists and non-Communists in an umbrella organization that had limited, but important goals Anyone could join as long as they opposed Ngo Dinh Diem and wanted to unify Vietnam.

  • Washington White PapersIn a series of government "White Papers," Washington insiders denounced the NLF, claiming that it was merely a puppet of Hanoi. They called it the "Viet Cong," a derogatory and slang term meaning Vietnamese Communist. The NLF, on the other hand, argued that it was autonomous and independent of the Communists in Hanoi and that it was made up mostly of non-Communists. Many anti-war activists supported the NLF's claims.

  • December 1961 White PaperIn 1961, President Kennedy sent a team to Vietnam to report on conditions in the South and to assess future American aid requirements. The report, known as the "December 1961 White Paper," argued for:An increase in military, technical, and economic aidThe introduction of large-scale American "advisers" to help stabilize the Diem regime and crush the NLF.

  • The Kennedy ResponseAs Kennedy weighed the merits of these recommendations, some of his other advisers urged the president to withdraw from Vietnam altogether.In typical Kennedy fashion, the president chose a middle route. Instead of a large-scale military buildup or a negotiated settlement, the United States would increase the level of its military involvement in South Vietnam through more machinery and advisers, but no military troops.

  • The Strategic Hamlet ProgramTo counteract the NLF's success in the countryside, Washington and Saigon launched an ambitious military effort in the rural areas. Called the Strategic Hamlet Program, the new counterinsurgency plan rounded up villagers and placed them in "safe hamlets" controlled by the government of South Vietnam. The idea was to isolate the NLF from villagers, its base of support

  • NLF SuccessesThis culturally-insensitive plan further alienated the peasants from the Saigon regime and produced more recruits for the NLF. By the summer of 1963, because of NLF successes and its own failures, it was clear that the government of South Vietnam was on the verge of political collapse.

  • Buddhist Self-ImmolationsDiem's brother, Ngo Dinh Nhu, had raided the Buddhist pagodas of South Vietnam, claiming that they had harbored the Communists that were creating the political instability. The result was massive protests on the streets of Saigon that led Buddhist monks to self-immolation. The pictures of the monks engulfed in flames made world headlines and caused considerable consternation in Washington.

  • Military CoupBy late September, the Buddhist protest had created such disloca- tion in the south that the Kennedy administration supported a coup. In 1963, some of Diem's own generals approached the American Embassy in Saigon with plans to overthrow Diem. With Washington's tacit approval, Diem and his brother were captured and later killed. Three weeks later, President Kennedy was assassinated on the streets of Dallas.

  • Escalation of the ConflictAt the time of the Kennedy and Diem assassinations, there were 16,000 military advisers in Vietnam. The Kennedy administration had managed to run the war from Washington without the large-scale introduction of American combat troops. The continuing political problems in Saigon, however, convinced the new president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, that more aggressive action was needed. After a dubious North Vietnamese raid on two U.S. ships in the Gulf of Tonkin, the Johnson administration argued for expansive war powers for the president.

  • Attack on American ShipsIn August 1964, in response to American and South Vietnamese espionage along its coast, North Vietnam launched an attack against the C. Turner Joy and the U.S.S. Maddox, two American ships on call in the Gulf of Tonkin. The first attack occurred on August 2, 1964. A second attack was supposed to have taken place on August 4, but authorities have recently concluded that no second attack ever took place.

  • The Gulf of Tonkin ResolutionThe Johnson administration used the August 4 attack to obtain a Congressional resolution, now known as the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, that gave the president broad war powers. The Resolution was followed by limited reprisal air attacks against North Vietnam.

  • Operation Rolling ThunderIn early 1965, the NLF attacked two U.S. army installations in South Vietnam, and as a result, Johnson ordered sustained bombing missions over North Vietnam. The bombing missions, known as Operation Rolling Thunder, caused the Communist Party to reassess its own war strategy

  • Phosphorous & Napalm BombsOperation Rolling Thunder was backed up by phosphorous and napalm bombs the latter causing dreadful burns to thousand of innocent civilians.

  • Operation Ranch HandWhen this failed to break down the jungle cover the USAF started Operation Ranch Hand the defoliation program, using Agent Orange. This deadly chemical cocktail, containing dioxin, killed off millions of acres of jungle to try to weaken the Vietcong but left a horrendous legacy in Vietnam.The dioxin got into the food chain causing chromosome damage to humans. There were hundreds of cases of children born with deformities.

  • HelicoptersOf all aircraft, the helicopter was the most useful, dropping platoons in the jungle clearings and out again. They were excellent air ambulances.

  • How did the North VietnameseFight Back Against the U.S. Invaders?The North Vietnamese used classic Maoist guerrilla tactics. Guerrillas must move through the peasants like fish through sea, i.e., the peasants will support them as much as they can with shelter, food, weapons, storage, intelligence, recruits.

  • North Vietnamese TacticsIn areas held by the NLF, the Communists distributed the land to the peasants. (By 1973, the NLF held about half of South Vietnam.)Their weapons were cheap and reliable.The AK47 assault rifle out-performed the American M16The portable rocket launcher took out many US vehicles & aircraft. They recycled dud bombs dropped by the Americans. Deadly booby-traps could inflict huge damage on young American conscripts!

  • Tunnel ComplexesThe Vietnamese built large tunnel complexes such as the ones at Cu Chi near Saigon. This protected them from the bombing raids by the Americans and gave them cover for attacking the invaders.

  • Search & Destroy TacticsThe United States countered with Search and Destroy tactics. In areas where the NLF were thought to be operating, troops went in and checked for weapons. If they found them, they rounded up the villagers and burned the villages down. This often alienated the peasants from the American/South Vietnamese cause. As one marine said If they werent Vietcong before we got there, they sure as hell were by the time we left. The NFL often helped the villagers re-build their homes and bury their dead.

  • Protracted War StrategyAfter Operation Rolling Thunder, the Communist Party moved to a protracted war strategy: the idea was to get the United States bogged down in a war that it could not win militarily and create unfavorable conditions for political victory.

  • The War in AmericaThe Vietnam War had a major impact on everyday life in America, and the Johnson administration was forced to consider domestic consequences of its decisions daily.Since there were not enough volunteers to continue to fight a protracted war, the government instituted a draft.

  • Anti-War SentimentsAs the deaths mounted and Americans continued to leave for Southeast Asia, the Johnson administration was met with the full weight of American anti-war sentiments.

  • Anti-War ProtestsProtests erupted on college campuses and in major cities at first, but by 1968 every corner of the country seemed to have felt the war's impact.

  • 1968 Democratic ConventionOne of the most famous incidents in the anti-war movement was the police riot in Chicago during the 1968 Democratic National Convention.Hundreds of thousands of people came to Chicago in August 1968 to protest American intervention in Vietnam and the leaders of the Democratic Party who continued to prosecute the war.

  • The Tet OffensiveBy 1968, things had gone from bad to worse for the Johnson administration. In late January, North Vietnam and the NLF launched coordinated attacks against major southern cities.These attacks, known as the Tet Offensive, were designed to force the Johnson administration to the bargaining table.http://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/my-lai-massacre/videos

  • The My Lai MassacreA serious blow to U.S. credibility came with the exposure of the My Lai massacre (March 1968).Hushed up at the time and only discovered by a tenacious journalist, this involved the killing of 400 men, women and children by US troops.

  • A Secret Plan to End the WarIn late March 1968, a disgraced Lyndon Johnson announced that he would not seek the Democratic Party's re-nomination for president and hinted that he would go to the bargaining table with the Communists to end the war.Negotiations began in the spring of 1968, but the Democratic Party could not rescue the presidency from Republican challenger Richard Nixon who claimed he had a secret plan to end the war.

  • VietnamizationNixon's secret plan involved a process called Vietnamization. This strategy brought American troops home while increasing the air war over North Vietnam and relying more on the South Vietnamese army for ground attacks.

  • Expansion to Laos & CambodiaThe Nixon years also saw the expansion of the war into neighboring Laos and Cambodia, violating the international rights of these countries in secret campaigns, as the White House tried desperately to rout out Communist sanctuaries and supply routes.

  • Campus Protests & ShootingsThe intense bombing campaigns and intervention in Cambodia in late April 1970 sparked intense campus protests all across America.

  • Kent StateAt Kent State in Ohio, four students were killed by National Guardsmen who were called out to preserve order on campus after days of anti-Nixon protest.

  • Jackson StateShock waves crossed the nation as students at Jackson State in Mississippi were also shot and killed for political reasons, prompting one mother to cry, "They are killing our babies in Vietnam and in our own backyard."

  • The Christmas BombingsIn December 1972, the Nixon administration unleashed a series of deadly bombing raids against targets in North Vietnams largest cities, Hanoi and Haiphong. These attacks, now known as the Christmas bombings, brought immediate condemnation from the international community and forced the Nixon administration to reconsider its tactics and negotiation strategy.

  • The Paris Peace AgreementIn early January 1973, the Nixon White House convinced Saigon that they would not abandon the South Vietnamese army if they signed the peace accord. On January 23, therefore, the final draft was initialed, ending open hostilities between the United States and North Vietnam. The Paris Peace Agreement did not end the conflict in Vietnam, however, as Saigon continued to battle Communist forces.

  • The Fall to CommunismFrom March 1973 until the fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975, the South Vietnamese army tried desperately to save the South from political and military collapse. The end finally came when North Vietnamese tanks rolled south along National Highway One. On the morning of April 30, Communist forces captured the presidential palace in Saigon, ending the Vietnam War.

  • Why Did the United States Lose the Vietnam War?They underestimated the tenacity and organization of the North Vietnamese and the National Liberation Front.

  • Despite dropping more tonnage of high explosive on Vietnam than the whole of World War II, the Americans could not stop the movement of troops or supplies to the south along the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

  • The North Vietnamese conducted a Peoples war in which everyone played a part.

  • At first, most Americans supported the war. But by 1970, the Peace Movement had support from all parts of society and no government could ignore it.

  • After 1969, there were deep questions about the efficiency of US troops. There was a serious drug problem; desertion rates were high and morale low. Many troops were time-servers, i.e., counted the days until the tour was over.

  • The US never really understood the culture of the Vietnamese people. Coca Cola, chewing gum, ball point pens, and ice cream cones could not dislodge their ancient beliefs.

  • America was not prepared to keep losing high numbers of casualties for such limited progress in a difficult jungle war, for which they were not suited.

  • The strength and resourcefulness of the NLF. For example, the highly complex Cu Chi tunnel system the U.S. never shut down.

  • SourcesBattlefield Vietnam: A Brief History http://www.pbs.org/battlefieldvietnam/history/index.htmlVietnam Revision Guide http://www.learnhistory.org.uk/vietnam/ustactics.htm

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