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    99–683 2005

    H.R. 4391, THE ‘‘PUBLIC SERVANT RETIREMENT PROTECTION ACT’’

    HEARING BEFORE THE

    SUBCOMMITTEE ON SOCIAL SECURITY OF THE

    COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTH CONGRESS

    SECOND SESSION

    JULY 20, 2004

    Serial No. 108–65

    Printed for the use of the Committee on Ways and Means

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    COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS BILL THOMAS, California, Chairman

    PHILIP M. CRANE, Illinois E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida NANCY L. JOHNSON, Connecticut AMO HOUGHTON, New York WALLY HERGER, California JIM MCCRERY, Louisiana DAVE CAMP, Michigan JIM RAMSTAD, Minnesota JIM NUSSLE, Iowa SAM JOHNSON, Texas JENNIFER DUNN, Washington MAC COLLINS, Georgia ROB PORTMAN, Ohio PHIL ENGLISH, Pennsylvania J.D. HAYWORTH, Arizona JERRY WELLER, Illinois KENNY C. HULSHOF, Missouri SCOTT MCINNIS, Colorado RON LEWIS, Kentucky MARK FOLEY, Florida KEVIN BRADY, Texas PAUL RYAN, Wisconsin ERIC CANTOR, Virginia

    CHARLES B. RANGEL, New York FORTNEY PETE STARK, California ROBERT T. MATSUI, California SANDER M. LEVIN, Michigan BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland JIM MCDERMOTT, Washington GERALD D. KLECZKA, Wisconsin JOHN LEWIS, Georgia RICHARD E. NEAL, Massachusetts MICHAEL R. MCNULTY, New York WILLIAM J. JEFFERSON, Louisiana JOHN S. TANNER, Tennessee XAVIER BECERRA, California LLOYD DOGGETT, Texas EARL POMEROY, North Dakota MAX SANDLIN, Texas STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES, Ohio

    ALLISON H. GILES, Chief of Staff JANICE MAYS, Minority Chief Counsel

    SUBCOMMITTEE ON SOCIAL SECURITY E. CLAY SHAW, JR., Florida, Chairman

    SAM JOHNSON, Texas MAC COLLINS, Georgia J.D. HAYWORTH, Arizona KENNY C. HULSHOF, Missouri RON LEWIS, Kentucky KEVIN BRADY, Texas PAUL RYAN, Wisconsin

    ROBERT T. MATSUI, California BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland EARL POMEROY, North Dakota XAVIER BECERRA, California STEPHANIE TUBBS JONES, Ohio

    Pursuant to clause 2(e)(4) of Rule XI of the Rules of the House, public hearing records of the Committee on Ways and Means are also published in electronic form. The printed hearing record remains the official version. Because electronic submissions are used to prepare both printed and electronic versions of the hearing record, the process of converting between various electronic formats may introduce unintentional errors or omissions. Such occur- rences are inherent in the current publication process and should diminish as the process is further refined.

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    C O N T E N T S

    Page

    Advisories announcing hearing .............................................................................. 2

    WITNESSES

    Social Security Administration, Martin H. Gerry, Deputy Commissioner, Dis- ability and Income Security Programs ............................................................... 9

    Association of Texas Professional Educators, Randall Iglehart ........................... 30 California Retired Teachers Association, George Avak ........................................ 36 Grand Lodge Fraternal Order of Police, Chuck Canterbury ................................ 33 Nevada State Education Association, Terry Hickman, on behalf of National

    Education Association .......................................................................................... 26

    SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD

    Alberti, Jeanne M., Harvard, MA, statement ........................................................ 56 Bates, Judy A., Midlothian, TX, letter ................................................................... 57 Berman, Hon. Howard L., a Representative in Congress from the State of

    California, statement ........................................................................................... 57 Bishop, Carolyn J., Belmont, MA, statement ........................................................ 58 Blackwell, Martha E., Sunnyvale, CA, statement ................................................ 59 Bovee, Charlene, Long Beach, CA, statement ....................................................... 59 Bowers, Richard Kirk, Spring Branch, TX, statement ......................................... 59 Bracken, Maurice A., Brookfield, MA, statement ................................................. 59 Brandwein, Janet, Newton Center, MA, statement .............................................. 60 Buccola, Dennis, E., Rock Falls, IL, statement ..................................................... 60 California Federation of Teachers, Sacramento, CA, Judith Michaels,

    statement .............................................................................................................. 61 California State Teachers’ Retirement Systems, Gary Lynes, Sacramento, CA,

    statement .............................................................................................................. 61 Cannon, Robert Arthur, Rockport, MA, statement ............................................... 63 Carbone, Henry L., Fort Kent, ME, statement ..................................................... 63 Castro, Margaret Ann, Cypress, TX, statement .................................................... 64 Clary, Jeff, Spring, TX, statement ......................................................................... 64 Colorado Public Employees’ Retirement Association, Robert Gray, statement .. 65 Cook, Patricia E., Braintree, MA, letter ................................................................ 66 Cook, Tracey, Lisle, IL, statement ......................................................................... 67 Cournia, Audrey, Sparks, NV, statement .............................................................. 68 Cyr, Paul A., Greene, ME, statement .................................................................... 68 Desmarais, Therese K., Rockport, MA, statement ................................................ 69 Devereaux, Alfred E., Lenox, MA, statement ........................................................ 70 DeSotell, Katie, Aurora, IL, statement .................................................................. 71 Dyer, Jeanne, Foxboro, MA, letter ......................................................................... 71 Fay, Paula Emerson, Cotuit, MA, letter ................................................................ 72 Federally Employed Women, Patricia Wolfe, statement ...................................... 72 Flick, Wayne, Grand Junction, CO, statement ..................................................... 75 Garrett, Gerald R., Moses Lake, WA, statement .................................................. 75 Gray, Robert, Colorado Public Employees’ Retirement Association, statement . 65 Hamdorf, Ken, Seal Beach, CA, statement ............................................................ 76 Hatford, Wane V., Palm Springs, CA, statement .................................................. 76 Hayes, James C., Las Vegas, NV, statement ........................................................ 77 Hedden, Karen, Wells, NV, statement ................................................................... 77 Herzberg, James, Katy, TX, statement .................................................................. 77 Hudson, Robert A., Colorado Springs, CO, statement .......................................... 78 Jacobson, Linda B., Northbrook, IL, statement .................................................... 78 Jones, Sheri, San Antonio, TX, statement ............................................................. 80 Joyce, Barbara C., Sparks, NV, statement ............................................................ 80

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    Joyner, D.R., Lufkin, TX, statement ...................................................................... 81 Keegan, James H., Belmont, MA, statement ........................................................ 82 Kimber, Gary, Elko, NV, letter ............................................................................... 82 Kush, Ralph, Sylmar, CA, statement ..................................................................... 83 Langford, Deborah, Spring, TX, statement ........................................................... 83 Larson, Paul E., Fallbrook, CA, statement ............................................................ 84 LeCompte, Don, Chula Vista, CA, statement ........................................................ 84 Lenarsky, Jane, Natick, MA, letter ........................................................................ 85 London, Harold N., Northbrook, IL, statement ..................................................... 86 Lynes, Gary, California State Teachers’ Retirement Systems, Sacramento,

    CA, statement ....................................................................................................... 61 Makler, Linda and Fred, Ballwin, MO, statement ............................................... 86 Mathison, William A., East Longmeadow, MA, statement .................................. 86 McKeon, Hon. Howard P. ‘‘Buck