How ready are you for college...REALLY? 10 questions, 2 minutes Graded within 3 biz days.
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What’s the GOAL?
How ‘bout... Getting DOWN?
65% of the deathsOccur on the way DOWN
College Planning
OUR THEME atGetCollegeFunding
College Planning
OUR THEME atGetCollegeFunding
It’s not just about getting them INTO college...
College Planning
OUR THEME atGetCollegeFunding
It’s not just about getting them INTO college...
It’s about gettin’ ‘em OUT!
Undergraduates
• 4 Years 35.3% – Public: 27.9%– Private (non-profit): 50.2%– Private (profit): 22.1%
• 6 Years 53.1%– Public: 54.1%– Private (non-profit): 64.0%
– Private (profit): 29.1%Source: National Center for Education Statistics (www.nces.ed.gov)
GRADUATION RATES
7 MISTAKES
1.Not Understanding “EFC”2.My EFC is the same at all
colleges3.We make too much for ANY
financial aid4.We should apply EA/ED for a big
edge5.Our scholar student will receive
merit scholarships wherever he/she goes
6.Creating a college list is easy7.We've got it covered
Constructing a REALISTIC COLLEGE LIST is
THE single most important task AND challenge
for families planning for their children’s college
So what do WE mean by “REALISTIC”?
• Excellent FIT for Student
Academic/Social/Spiritual/Political/etc.
• AFFORDABLE for the Family
The COLLEGE LIST
Inside the Admission Office
… What every applicant(including aspiring athletes)
NEEDS to know in an Increasingly Competitive Environment
Formerly of
250
B +/A- Avg
Top 15-20%
SAT 600-700
Some Honors, AP
Good Activities/Talent, Personal
250
B +/A- Avg
Top 15-20%
SAT 600-700
Some Honors, AP
Good Activities/Talent, Personal
Meet Basic Standards
Competitive Selective
Most Selective
1650
C+/B Avg
Top 1/2 to 1/3
SAT 450-600
Pre-College Courses
Some participation
Good HS Citizen
2000 4-yr
25
A/A+ Avg Top of Class
SAT Mid /High 700’s
All Hard Courses
Unusually Strong Activities, Talent,
Personal in combination
No Negatives
75
A Avg
Top 5-10%
SAT 700’s
Almost all Honors/AP
Strong Activities/Talent, Personal
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Why Is It Harder Now Than When Your Parents Went to College? Supply is steady
The number of spaces for freshmen has not changed much in the last 2-3 decades.
Demand is growing overall The number of high school grads has
never been higher. Now about 3.3M
The percent going to college is increasing. From 45% to nearly 2/3 since 1980’s
More international students
Chronicle of Higher Education Almanac 2008
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What to Do In This Environment
You need to know how to prepare, both inside and outside the classroom, to meet higher standards
Courses, grades Standard tests Activities and achievement
It is essential that you have a realistic college list
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Hard For Admissions to Choose Among Similar Applicants
There is academic “Bunching”
Increased enrollment in hard courses Honors, AP, International Baccalaureate College courses in high school, summer
enrichment Distinctions are blurred
Grade inflation Multiple valedictorians SAT and ACT Super Scoring Test prep courses (ePrep recommended)
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And
There is personal “Polishing”
Students are more savvy about building a resume with activities and accomplishments, strategizing the essay, volunteering, enrichment programs
High schools feel the pressure -- reluctant to lessen student chances – inflation in teacher and counselor recs
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To Complicate Matters Further...
College admission offices have a split personality They are a meritocracy
Admit the best They also practice “institutional engineering”
Admit to meet other objectives
The result is not one, but two admissions processes that run side by side One for “Untagged” applicants One for “Tagged” applicants
This is where confusion increases and predictability decreases.
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Tagged Categories
Level I Scholarship athlete
Level IIA Non-scholarship
athlete Affirmative action
minority
Level IIB Low incm, disadv,
obstacles Inst. need – arts,
academic
Level III Early Decision Connections State resident for some
publics Demonstrated interest
Level IV Legacy Geography Gender Full pay
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An Admission Exercise
Colleges rate applicants on academic and personal scales.
To sort through so many apps, a number system is used.
My system is 1 (low) to 8 (high) on both academic and personal.
Academics weighted more heavily, roughly in a 3:1 ratio.
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AverageGPA (UW)
Rank Courses(5 solids)
SAT (M+CR/2)
ACT(Comp)
SAT Subject
Acad Awards
8A+ 4.0 97-100
1-2%Most
Demanding**750-800 35-36 780-800 Intern/
National
7A 3.994-96
3-5%Most
Demanding710-740 33-34 760-770 Region/
State
6A-3.7-3.890-93
6-14%Very
Demanding680-700 32 730-750 County
5B+3.3-3.687-89
15-20% Demanding 650-670 29-31 680-720 School
4B/B-2.7-3.280-86
25% Demanding 600-640 26-28 630-670 None
3C 2.3-2.677-79
33% Average 550-590 23-25 590-620 None
2C 2.0-2.274-76
50%Below
Average470-540 19-22 500-580 None
1C- Below 2.0Below 74
Below 50%
Below Average
Below 470 Below 19Below
500None
ACADEMIC RATING TABLE™
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PERSONAL RATING TABLE™ © Betterton College Planning, LLC
14 Super Selective Stanford
13 Most Selective UCal
12 Most Selective/Selective USC
11 Selective UC Irvine
10 Competitive Occidental
9 Competitive UC Santa Barbara
8 Lightly Competitive Santa Clara
7 Lightly Comp/Meet Basic Standards Loyola Marymount
6 Meet Basic Standards U of Pacific
STUDENT RATINGS COMPARED TO COLLEGE RATINGS™
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Very Difficult
(10-30%)
Difficult
(20-40%)
Somewhat
Difficult
(30-50%)
Good Choice
(40-60%)
Solid Chance
(50-70%)
Strong Chance
(60-80%)
V.G. to Excellent Chance
(70-90%)
USC (12)
UCal Irvine
(11)
Oxy (10)
UCSB (9)
Santa Clara (8)
LMU (7) U of P (6)
:
BCP EVALUATOR™
Name John Rating 5/4 Date Here are your admission prospects comparing your credentials with those of each college’s
most recent freshman man class. Green shading indicates Core colleges.
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Very Difficult
(10-30%)
Difficult
(20-40%)
Somewhat Difficult
(30-50%)
Good Choice
(40-60%)
Solid Chance
(50-70%)
Strong Chance
(60-80%)
V.G. to Excellent Chance
(70-90%)
Stanford (14)
UCal (13)
USC (12)
UCal Irvine (11)
Oxy (10)
UCSB (9)
Santa Clara (8)
LMU (7)
U of P (6)
Name John Rating 5/4 (11) Date Here are your admission prospects considering that you may find yourself
tagged as: An Athlete
BCP EVALUATOR™ (w/Tag)
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Athletics: The Big Picture
NCAA – National Collegiate Athletic Association (380,000 athletes in 36 sports) Div I (331) Div II (291) Div III (429)
NAIA - National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (300 schools, 23 sports, 50,000 athletes)
NJCAA - National Junior College Athletic Association (525 schools, 16 sports)
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Reality Check #1Be Honest About Where You Stand
You’re a Heavy (Blue Chip) Recruit You are recruited early by more than one college, are offered a
full ride, coach assures you he can “get you in.” You are 1% of high school athletes You don’t need this Webinar. Congratulations
If not, view yourself as a Light Recruit (interest by coach, but no early offer of admission or schp) or Self Recruit (very little or no interest by your colleges).
Light recruit. Keep in touch and keep improving. Hopefully you will move up the ladder as other recruits choose their colleges. Academics remain quite important. Might get some money.
Self recruit. Promote yourself and keep improving. Plan to go through admission process with sport as an admission plus.
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Reality Check # 2The Number Funnel
Your chance to play in college may not be as great as you think. As a general rule, between 5% & 10% of high school athletes end up making a college team. For
example: Sport HS Players College Players %
Men’s Football 1,012,000 77,800 7.6%
Basketball 539,700 27,700 5.1%
Baseball 450,500 49,900 10.9%
Women’s Basketball 452,700 24,400 5.3%
Soccer 292,000 31,800 10.9%
Softball 350,200 27,200 7.8%
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Reality Check # 3The Money Funnel
Nearly all “full rides” go to Blue Chip athletes in revenue sports.
An occasional full ride to outstanding recruit in non- revenue sport
If on athletic schp, expect a partial (MSOC $8750/$30K)
Athletic schps are one year at a time Don’t expect college to fund up to NCAA
allowable schp limit (MSOC 7 of 9.9)
Full ride doesn’t cover all costs No schps in some Div I and II. None at all
in Div III
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Why Academics Are Important
You can’t get a schp or play for 4 years unless you meet NCAA academic eligibility rules.
Coach can’t recruit you unless you meet the college’s admission standards.
The NCAA’s Academic Progress Rate encourages coaches to recruit good students.
If it turns out you are not recruited, your academics are what counts. Your sport may help in admission as an extra-curricular activity.
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You Are A Recruit
You can tell if: Usually contacted before your senior
year Get calls, home visit after July 1 of
senior year Invited to make an official (paid) visit After reviewing academics, coach,
acting as de facto admission office, will say he can “get you in” if you commit to attend.
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Nice Going, But Your Problems May Not Be Over
Lack of commitment may cause coach to remove his admission offer. Possible dilemma – do you turn down
offer to keep options open, not knowing where you stand with other colleges?
Try to extend deadline as much as possible, then make your decision.
Sometimes coach will “re-recruit” you
Verbal offers vs National Letter of Intent
You Are Not Recruited
Then your option is to Self-Recruit Make yourself known. Cast a wide net. Fill out questionnaire on athletic dept Web
site Contact coach, explain more about you,
judge level of coach’s interest. If at least some interest,
Offer to make unofficial visit Update performance periodically Ask if he would like to see video Give coaches’ names as references Give schedule of where you will be playing Be Politely Persistent until successful or no
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NCAA Div I&II Eligibility Requirements If you want to participate in athletics or receive an
athleticscholarship during your first year, you must:
Graduate from high school Complete 16 core courses (14 in Div II) Earn a minimum required grade-point average in your
core courses Earn a combined SAT or ACT sum score that
matches your core-course grade-point average and test score sliding scale
Comply with amateurism rules Register with the Clearinghouse Follow the recruiting rules
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