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01-23-2012, 07:49 PM

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I see lots of Invicta bashing out there...

I currently own 4 Invicta watches right now and I love them all. In fact, at this current time,

it is the only brand of watch I own.

While lurking around the interwebs and checking out some other forums out there I see a lot

of Invicta haters and bashers out there. I am kind confused about the whole hate Invicta

crowd.

While reading through this forum there are certain things that Invicta can improve upon

including customer service. There also seems to be some models that do have some issues

(retrograde day for example). For the most part, though, I feel they build a quality watch. If

you buy from an Invicta dealer such as ShopNBC it seems like most issues are taken care of

and problems can be exchanged.

The funny thing is that on some of the other sites I have read discussions on how Invicta

simply copies watches from other companies and never comes out with their own ideas.

Really? How do you explain the SAS or the Bolt Zeus for example. There are simply not other

watches out there that come close to those designs. Invicta is clearly one step ahead in that

regaurd. Yes, the pro divers may be a Rolex Submariner copy and the Grand Divers may look

like other companies Dive watches...but all companies dive watches look similar!

I have also seen pictures of Invicta watches with "problems" that are clearly photoshoped to

make them look bad or worse than they are.

What causes this? Snobbery? The fact that the others may be a bit jealous that they are

paying 3-4 times as much for a similarly designed watch with the same movements?

I was shopping at the mall the other day and I stopped in to a Jewelry store to look at some

Tag Heuer watches. Don't know why...just always wanted one. A Formula 1 is about as much

as I would be able to afford at this time (but can't bring myself to spend the money). I was

wearing my Grand Diver with an NH25A movement that I spend $100 on. I then tried on a

Formula 1 Quartz watch. The first thing I noticed is that the bracelet on the watch felt cheap

compared to the GD. The watch also did not have the same solid feel. I can't explain it but I

just preferred my GD to the Formula 1. I would still love to own a Tag Carrera, but you can

get an Invicta with a similar movement at 1/5th the price.

This is just my observations on this issue. Anybody else want to elaborate on the haters out

there?

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01-23-2012, 07:53 PM

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01-23-2012, 07:54 PM

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They are haters that love to spread bs! Pay no attention to them. Most got banned from here

because of their obnoxious posts. So they have nothing better to do than to bash the

product and people here. This is the only forum for me. Lots of great peeps here.








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01-23-2012, 07:55 PM

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I can't elaborate on it for you, because I don't understand it either. I have seen some of the

sites you were talking about, and I guess it must be a mix of snobbery and maybe a little

jealousy that we are getting good, quality watches with quality movements at a fraction of

the prices the pay for higher-end watches. I guess they feel they are forced to buy the more

expensive watches to keep up appearances. Heaven forbid they are seen at the country club

with an Invicta on!

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01-23-2012, 07:55 PM

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I am in agreement...I just want to know why they have so much contempt for the brand. It

is puzzling to me.

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01-23-2012, 07:56 PM

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I do not have any comments on people that actually hate things as apposed to being upset

when they break or need repair. I have a dozen or more and that is the only brand I

currently buy....keep the venom coming!

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Some folks just have nothing better to do.

Buy what you like, and ignore them.

I myself am a world class ignorer (is that a word?).

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01-23-2012, 08:02 PM

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You know Invicta pleases, and many of our fellow WG's as well.

I could care less what detractors have to say.

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Some folks just have nothing better to do.

Buy what you like, and ignore them.

I myself am a world class ignorer (is that a word?).

Hahaha. It is now!

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01-23-2012, 08:08 PM

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I don't get it either. I absolutely love my Invictas. They are such a great product for the

money!!!

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01-23-2012, 08:09 PM

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This is truly sad. With that said, I can honestly say I had a bit of "watch snobbishness" in

me. Before buying Invicta, I had a Rolex Explorer II and an Omega Seamaster. I never

thought I would be looking at watches that weren't of the same "caliber". After discovering

Shop NBC, that snobbishness quickly subsided. Now, I am not saying Invicta isn't of quality,

but I have now taken on the mentality of "quantity vs. quality". Personally, I now own 22

Invicta watches and I have 3 more coming! I truly love the brand and have yet to experience

any issues with any of my watches! Hats off to Invicta! The quality is outstanding!

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01-23-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rxer311

The funny thing is that on some of the other sites I have read discussions on how Invicta

simply copies watches from other companies and never comes out with their own ideas.

Really? How do you explain the SAS or the Bolt Zeus for example. There are simply not

other watches out there that come close to those designs. Invicta is clearly one step ahead

in that regaurd. Yes, the pro divers may be a Rolex Submariner copy and the Grand Divers

may look like other companies Dive watches...but all companies dive watches look similar!

#1 : Where are they getting this from! The amount of designs from Invicta that are

different is so far from the truth from the above observances of the "other" sites . I

agree with you 100%.

#2 : Stay off the other sites! Actually this should be first!

#3 : Yes there is a definite issue with the application of the hands on the 8040.N














movement from Ronda. It is not the models that are a factor but hand application

issues on the movement. Ashame, but true.

Photoshopped to make them worse. Wow, that is nuts!

I have had my share of issues but I continue to buy from what I consider to be a

very innovative watch company with great ORIGINAL designs and nice pricing

structures that keep it fun.

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01-23-2012, 08:10 PM

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Hey any Invicta they don't like they can just send them to me. I love them!!

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01-23-2012, 08:16 PM


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#1 : Where are they getting this from! The amount of designs from Invicta that

are different is so far from the truth from the above observances of the "other"

sites . I agree with you 100%.

#2 : Stay off the other sites! Actually this should be first!

#3 : Yes there is a definite issue with the application of the hands on the 8040.N

movement from Ronda. It is not the models that are a factor but hand application

issues on the movement. Ashame, but true.

Photoshopped to make them worse. Wow, that is nuts!

I have had my share of issues but I continue to buy from what I consider to be a

very innovative watch company with great ORIGINAL designs and nice pricing

structures that keep it fun.

Yes...they are photoshopping (so poorly you can tell they are photoshopped) Invictas to

make them look bad. I saw one picture of a sea hunter that was photoshopped to make it

look like the strap had no holes in it. It looked nothing like the Invicta strap...

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You are right on. There is a lot of watch snobbery going on and some jealousy as well. I just

ignore it and wear my Invicta's proudly (and keep a lot of money in my pocket compared to

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01-23-2012, 08:18 PM

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It is what it is. We have the freedom to listen and take into consideration what we want.

People are going to bash different things for different reasons. Take the gun world, for

instance. If you could only buy two guns and ask a Glock fan which two he/she would buy

they would say a Glock and a Glock. They may not even know much about what makes other

models better or worse because they may have never entertained giving another gun a

chance. Gotta love the haters, or should I say hate the haters! LoL

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I am pretty sure most of them are bitter for one reason or another, my best guess is that

they have a nagging old Haggler at home and they have no ability to be a man at home or

work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I can

think of one such Turd Burglar and his name references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!

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work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I

can think of one such Turd Burglar and his references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!

You nailed it Ron! LOL

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01-23-2012, 08:35 PM

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01-23-2012, 08:40 PM

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One thing I've noticed is that it isn't so much that there is a lot of hate for Invicta as much

as there is a few people who go a lot of places to spread hate. Take the time to read up on

who is posting on these certain sites. Some are specifically for the purpose of hating and

some others are about a select few telling everyone else what they should wear. I lie Invicta

so I post here. I get any answer I need from here and I don't have to deal with the bullcrap.

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01-23-2012, 08:41 PM

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Some people dont have lives & Invicta gives them something to b#$@h about. Suck to be

them. Just do what makes ya happy folks.WE're just common folk enjoying ourselves & thats

all that matters.

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01-23-2012, 08:42 PM

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Haters love them selves, haha!

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01-23-2012, 08:45 PM

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They keep bashin' 'em and I keep buyin' em!!!

Screw 'em, I like what I get for the money. I am an educated consumer and I like what

I get, for the money I put out...

Hi-five Eyal!!!

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Buy what you love

Love what you buy

and to hell with what people have to say.

+1 well put.

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01-23-2012, 08:51 PM

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The big picture of things and how we feel about ourselves comes to mind!.saying negative

things about watches and people is usually done to make them feel superior, or better than.

Principles, standards and quality representation is what i admire about invicta.watchgeeks is

a very forward organization. Simply put always looking ahead!. Peaceeeee

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some people are just like that. it even happens here. many times people will boast that they

have a 'real' one, such as an original san 3 2.4 or whatever, and that the later models are

somehow inferior.

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01-23-2012, 08:53 PM

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Its unfortunate that there will always be some that you cant please no matter what you do. I

just dont understand why some would spend so much energy hating something. If you don't

like Invicta watches, dont buy them. I started collecting Invictas about a year ago and

currently have around 24 and love everyone of them. I have bought many for friends and

family members in addition to my 24 and they all have loved them. I can't help but get a

little "joy" when I get compliments from individuals that are wearing something in the higher

end price range. It makes my day! Continue enjoying your Invicta watches and at the end of

the day, the only thing that matters is you being happy and getting enjoyment out of your

choice of watch.

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There are some legitimate quality control concerns we should not ignore but I think the

snobbery comes from the concept that Invicta portrays Swiss luxury for less., If your buying

Breguet, U. Nardin, Rolex you will have a problem with this concept, because you don't

equate them with Invicta....but many collectors of these models tire from the overpayment

and want to enjoy a certain current look or even trend and Invicta can fill that slot without

the financial stress, and its not pretentious and is fun. Watch collecting should be fun. I think

there is truth to the statement since we can all shop for quartz Tags and other brand names

that have similar movements to what we buy at Invicta and they are over 1000

dollars....where can you buy a pro diver valjoux 7750 for around 750, MOP dial or the pro

diver blue model with the blue bezel. Nowhere. There are some Homage watch models for

sure, so what. Invicta admits to it and just look at IWC Pilot watches and how many brand

names make a living replicating (homaging) that piece. Invicta has to mass produce and this

creates quality control issues, in my opinion. I also don't think thats a small problem,

unfortunately and they may not be making friends because of it. I think the problem for the

very expensive watch buyer is that it is likely that your Invicta will gather more attention

visually (big, colorfull,etc) than some 20,000 piece.

You shouldn't equate the Breguet Minute repeater with the minute repeater com ing out by

Invicta, that wouldn't be honest but the fact that a company cares to produce such a model

for a watch collector so they can enjoy a similar looking model, produced in a price range

thats obtainable for many is honorable. They are not tricking you into thinking they are

equal, they are producing it so everyone can enjoy what only the wealthy have been able to

experience.

An Invicta is Swiss Watch Luxury for less ( that is when you buy the Swiss Made Models),

alot less...and you can buy many different styles for this reason, rather than buying one

prestige piece and demanding others appreciate and notice its quality. Even the non-swiss

models have excellent value and really are packaged to give additional value.

Your enjoyment of this product shouldn't make anyone smug.

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I agree with the OP - the quartz F1 verses 6 or 7 Grand Divers, hmmm... for me , it is an

easy decision ( I have 5 GD's: black, blue, yellow, and both lume dials) -

the only Invicta bashing that gets to me are the dings on my watches ( I already dinged the

bezel on my new lume dial GD - battle tested, keeping great time.

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01-23-2012, 09:03 PM

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I own many Brands, one of my favorite watches is my 43mm reserve pro diver with the blue

bezel and meteorite dial,Yes it looks like a Rolex.Who cares that's not why I bought it.I

purchased it because I liked it and could afford it.I've never been on the other sites although

Invicta is not my only brand.I like it here.

And yes they have too much time on their hands

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01-23-2012, 09:09 PM

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I love Invicta. Keep em coming!

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01-23-2012, 09:19 PM

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What drives me nuts...is even if you have nothing better to do....they're WATCHES. It's not

something religious or political or let's bash on this persons theory about some "deep" topic

of our time but WATCHES. Some people need to get things in perspective.

With that said, I do find the negativity of some towards the brand baffling in most regards. I

can't think of another brand that has such an active group basically out to get a brand and

its buyers. I'm a member of various product forums and on none of those has someone

popped up and started ripping the product.

Now as for why? It is being snobby to a large extent, but a common theme I see is the claim

not so much that Invicta is an homage company but rather that the original designs are

tasteless...too big, gaudy in size and design and generally, from a watch design perspective,

not well executed. What do I think? Nothing screams wear me like my SAS, my SANIV, my

Lupah....I see other designs and they seem plain and uninteresting, uninteresting. Every

single person I've ever met who sees and holds my watches from Invicta are always blown

















away and call them "classy" "looks like a million bucks" "works of art"...my boss who has no

clue what my watches cost jokingly said once that "you wouldn't need a raise if you'd stay

away from those paycheck a piece watches".

My point? I love many of the designs the company makes and the great value the brand

provides. And I feel and look great wearing them.

Simply put, the haters no matter their intentions ARE WRONG.

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01-23-2012, 09:22 PM

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I love all my Invictas, no one is going to convince me otherwise!

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01-23-2012, 09:28 PM

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People tell you who they are every day. By striking out at Invicta tells me they don't like

what they own and how much they spent. I love Invicta. They started me on my road to

watch collecting. I believe they provide the best watch for the dollar. Exciting styles, many

ground breaking. Go Invicta!

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I quit trying to understand the Invicta haters a long time ago. I like the direction Invicta is

going and I know I will be a supporter no matter what.

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01-23-2012, 09:33 PM

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I know the site and handle of the person in question of whom

you speak..Sir Ron!! I go over their on occasion but could care

less what they say...I buy what I like, regardless of what others

















have to say about it...Some gripes are legit with respect to CS

issues and some are straight up exaggerations of the truth..so

they can get a rise out of people and get under their skin...I

have been on other forums and can see countless issues with

higher end brands that don't get the same exposure on the anti

sites like Invicta..Invicta does do homages to quite a few

watch brands out their, but I say whats wrong with that...so do

a lot of other brands...My Reserve Akula looks a hell of a lot

like a Concord C1 Chrono..but I like it so I buy it...Invicta also

has a number of models that are their own patented designs...I

like the cost to value I get from my Invicta's which is why I still

collect them..I don't care if Invicta holds the undisputed title

for the most hated watch company on the planet....I will still

buy their timepieces..

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can think of one such Turd Burglar and his name references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!

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Invicta has faults.

You have faults.

I have faults. Please don't dislike or hate me because you heard that I have made some

mistakes. Please don't hate me because I won't tell you every detail of my life. Please don't

hate me because I am considered successful.

If you look deep enough you can always find reasons to not like someone or something. Bill

and Ted has the best advice. "Be Excellent to each other."

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It was about time that another thread like this came up. Clock work.

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Don't give it a second thought. Do you really care what others think about the make of the

car you drive? Or, the brand of shoes you wear? Or, the stores you visit?

I can pretty much bet that, if you look, you'll find forums being "snobs" about just anything

you can think of. The grown-up thing to do is to live your own life as you see fit.

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Don't give it a second thought. Do you really care what others think about the make of the

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01-23-2012, 10:06 PM

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make love not hate

hats off to INVICTA,EYAL, Meijin

allow regular workin' stiffs like myseff to become "watch collectors"

ScottyB will always be grateful.

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Can you Imagine living your whole life knowing no matter how hard tried you could never

satisfy your partner? No wonder these clowns are so uptight! Hell I would be PISSED at

something or somebody every day myself. What a unfortunate set of individuals!

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LMFAO!!

Your not claiming that they are all impotent are you...LOL

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satisfy your partner? No wonder these clowns are so uptight! Hell I would be PISSED at

something or somebody every day myself. What a unfortunate set of individuals!

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LMFAO!!


Jon

you mean they just need a little BUMP ?

UP

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Precisely...Question is, who's gonna help em out..to make

things a little more vertical..

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UP

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Not worth the time or energy....enjoy Invicta and any other watch brands that please your

fancy

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Originally Posted by rxer311

Yes...they are photoshopping (so poorly you can tell they are photoshopped) Invictas to

make them look bad. I saw one picture of a sea hunter that was photoshopped to make it

look like the strap had no holes in it. It looked nothing like the Invicta strap...














would this be the sea hunter you speak of???

http://www.watchgeeks.net/showthread...er+strap+holes

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Originally Posted by jwin66

LMFAO!!


Jon

Noooooo

No not at all, Inept yes Impotent I dont think so!

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I like my Invictas, they have served me very well and outside of the ocasional crystal fog I

honestly have no complaints. Even that is not really a complaint, because its an easy ~20

minute DIY fix.

The complaints I see on other forums come from:

http://www.watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=186902&highlight=sea+hunter+strap+holes













-Poor QC inspection

-Warranty repair work taking too long

-The use of Asian movements in watches labeled as "SWISS MOVT", "SWISS" and "SWISS

PARTS MOVEMENT". While theres nothing technically wrong with doing this, people feel mis-

led and its often seen as a deceitful practice.

-The portrayal of the Invicta Reserve line (as a whole) being "SWISS MADE", when in reality

there have been a few asia-origin IR models.

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Does Invicta have QC/CS issues? Yep

But if you are happy with what you have and what you paid for them, that is all that really

matters.

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Noooooo

No not at all, Inept yes Impotent I dont think so!

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01-23-2012, 11:17 PM

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There are haters that are just bashing to serve some personal purpose that only

they actually know.

Then, there are those former Invicta fans that become haters due to all, or some,

of the things listed below:











Quote:

Originally Posted by kramer5150

The complaints I see on other forums come from:

-Poor QC inspection

-Warranty repair work taking too long

-The use of Asian movements in watches labeled as "SWISS MOVT", "SWISS" and "SWISS

PARTS MOVEMENT". While theres nothing technically wrong with doing this, people feel

mis-led and its often seen as a deceitful practice.

-The portrayal of the Invicta Reserve line (as a whole) being "SWISS MADE", when in

reality there have been a few asia-origin IR models.

I know that the whole "Swiss" meaning Swiss Made issue almost sent me away from the

brand...

But, NOW that I know the truth, I can make more informed decisions, and buy the watches

without feeling like I was mislead.

Bottom line for me was... I enjoy the watches and it is fun for me to wear them. So, as

long as I am being told the truth about the watches, I can not only continue to buy them,

but I can "enable" others to do so too!!

Having said all that... had I chosen to ditch the Invicta brand, I still would not have the

personality/character to spend so much time hating Invicta on any and all forums I could!

That's just not ME...

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01-23-2012, 11:43 PM

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I would say you get what you pay for and you get what makes you happy! Invicta makes










some great looking watches and they also make some awful looking watches. To each's own

and there is no reason for snobbery. They really are a great value for what you get. In my

opinion they don't compare to the Omega's and Breitlings and Rolex's of the world. Just try

on a Omega Planet Ocean or a Breitling Chronomat and you will see and feel the difference.

However I do own a few Invictas and do like them and invite any watch lover to try the

brand. Not everyone has the same budget and Invicta and Shopnbc make nice watches

affordable.

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01-24-2012, 12:39 AM

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Everyone is entitled to their opinions as long as they are stated in good taste

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I like mine and I do not see anyone else making watches as nice for the money.

I have never had a problem with mine. I have had a problem with two other watches though

and you don't see me crying about them or writing books about it.



















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I don't care about Invicta haters. Everytime I wear my Invicta I get compliments from lots of

people, even people I never met. It never happened to me with other brand's I've owned, so

I don't care what the haters think, I know my money was well spent. And another thing too

is that for the price of the movement that I choose, I wear my watches on a daily basis. It

doesn't sit in a cave until the sun comes out shining.

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01-24-2012, 01:16 AM

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I was also trashed big time by that site ,that I will leave nameless it is thier issue,s not mine

to know me is to love me !!!!!!

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I believe that if you go into buying an Invicta and knowing what you're getting and are

comfortable with the price you paid, it doesn't matter what anyone says. Out of my

collection, I only have 4 Invictas, 5 including my GD which didn't arrive yet, and I have had

zero issues as far as the movements go. My Reserve Ocean Reef is the only issue, with the

rose-gold layering fading away, but it's still a great watch. I see alot of bashing about the

crystals being used, I have zero scratches on any of my Invictas. I guess I am a little lucky

that I have not had to deal with their CS yet and actually send a watch in for repair, but my

experience with Invicta has been positive. Will I ever spend more than a few hundred on an

Invicta? Probably not, I feel the money can be better spent on a different brand, but that is

just my opinion.

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That's just funny!

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I have had 1 defective Invicta (bad date disk on a SAS) out of the 42 I own. I had also read

the Invicta horror stories on this forum which advised me not to send the watch back to

Invicta for repair so I just kept it and live with the date malfunction.

As for the "haters" I suspect a phone conversation with a less the effective Invicta CS rep or

waiting months for a warranty repair could sour the customer/vendor relationship. People

can have a negative reaction when their hard earned dollars are spent and they don't receive

the respect they deserve. IMO this is one area Invicta needs to improve in.

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To be honest I dont know or much less care what (the haters) or whatever you choose to call

them think. I own several Invictas (mostly Pro divers) and they are close to 50% of my

collection of 60 watches. A friend said it best when he said you cant beat the value for the

money spent. I do NOT compare them to any other watch out there..Ive seen the Rolex vs

Invicta ect stuff and it makes no sense. Apples and Oranges to me. I see where people have

problems with a specific watch and hey that happens. With the NUMBER of watches that

Invicta produces the rate of break downs is still low if looked at as a percentage. Example

years ago I bought a chevy Pickup, had problems with it from day one for 2 weeks back and

forth to the dealer, they finally gave me a new truck and it worked flawlessly. Did I whine

and complain to NOT buy Chevy's? NO I Knew that it can and does happen and when it did I

dealt with it. and as far as working..I have 2 watches sitting side by side one is a quartz











Invicta Pro Diver and one is a quartz Technomarine...they keep time with each other almost

to the second, the Prodiver was 1/10th the price of the Technomarine but performs as

well...So the people that gripe let them, I go by something Jim Skelton once said..Buy what

you Like and its never failed me yet

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01-24-2012, 07:40 AM

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I own lots of Invicta watches. Quality is top-notch. In my oopinion, Invicta is an incredible

and innovative watch company, especially when you consider how many different watches

they produce at any given time.

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I have about 15 Invictas and have owned about 50. People get angry with them but they are

a cheaper watch. You get what you pay for. My rule is never buy an Invicta over 400.00. The

quality is the same on a 50.00 or a 1500.00 Invicta. It seems to me the more expensive the

invicta the more issues they have. I have been buying them for about 5-7 years and I have

seen a decrease in quality there is NO denying that. It seems the more models they make

and more in production they seem to slip. My 2005, 2006 models are bullet proof. I am very

careful about which watches I buy now

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Everything successful has a hater

There ya go!

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For the record, there are pretty fair number of Rolex haters around here too......

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I don,t understand why people hate on invicta all the time.listen if the watch does not work

when you get it send it back nothing perfect.That is why you have a 30 day return

policy.duh! NO company is perfect don,t hate congratulate.

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Every product has issues. A $80,000 Mercedes can have an issue. It's what works for you, &

Invicta works so well with me that in 2011 nine of my friends now own multiple Invictas. If

you add my friends wives/girlfriends the number becomes 15.

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Do not know why they do it and really do not care it just shows their lack of knowledge.

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The quality is the same on a 50.00 or a 1500.00 Invicta.

Really? I'd sure like for you to show me any $50 watch that compares to:

#1. Reserve Bolt Zeus

#2. Subaqua Specialty












#3. Subaqua Specialty Tourbillon

#4. Reserve Ocean Elite Speedway

#5. Reserve Pro Diver w/Valjoux 7750

Certainly you are entitled to your own opinion, but it ought to at least have some basis in

reality.

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01-24-2012, 09:35 AM

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I got into collecting watches probably 2 years ago, saw Jim and Mike on Shop liked the

design of the watch on the screen. Like everything new if you like it, and you are thinking

about buying it, you research it. You look up the price, you look up details about the product

and you look for reviews. If you do that with Invicta you will find the haters.

The easiest to find of them were so over the top, I simply dismissed them. It struck me as

really odd, people who were smart enough, successful enough, in life and business to afford

and appreciate the high end luxury brands were somehow repeatedly fooled by the origin of

Invicta watches. Maybe I got into collecting later in the process but I always went by the

general rule that if origin of movement really mattered to you buy only the ones labeled

Swiss Made. Swiss Parts seems fairly self explanatory, Swiss I had to look up, but it didn't

look to me that anyone was hiding anything. Maybe I am stereotyping a high end customer

of Luxury timepieces but I can't believe any would behave like that. Just don't see the

market crossing over with teenage kids.

At this point I have 48 watches in my collection most of them Invicta Swiss automatic

chronographs, never had a failure. I have bought 3 on Ebay that had failures to start and

were discounted to reflect it. I had all three fixed for basically nothing. All three 7750's and

each time the jeweler had nothing but glowing things to say about what was inside and the

general construction. Each time he stated that failures such as I brought in were common to








other brands and such.

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YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD!, I started collecting invictas in march of 2011, i now have 50 of

them, they are nice time pieces, i didnt buy them to tell time with. I simply buy them as you

would buy art. I enjoyn the looks and feel of them why would i spend 3-4000 dollars on a

single watch that doesnt look and feel as good.

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01-24-2012, 09:58 AM

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I have owned Invictas and will tell you why they get bashed. First off they have large quality

problems hands falling off etc. Their resale value is very low. Also their claims of being Swiss

made is questionable at best. Also their oversize hugness makes alot of people see them as

clown watches. Plus not to mention their horid CS.

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hang around long enuff you'll see plenty haters here too lol

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They can say what they want over there at the pond scum. I especially laugh at the put

downs about the rd's. They happen to be my favorite invictas. Today I was asked where I

got my rd by a medvac helicopter crew. They fell in love with it. Perfect for their job. I

showed them the venoms online as well. I challenge any one of those haters to show they

get that kind of attention wearing their 4k watches. Not! Let them continue to swim in their

filthy pond water.

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The web has enabled lots of morons to reach out to people and express biased, corrupted

opinions. While there have been issues, there is nothing I see that cannot be resolved by

being an educated consumer.

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hang around long enuff you'll see plenty haters here too lol

One need only to look at the post right above yours! LOL!

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I have owned Invictas and will tell you why they get bashed. First off they have large

quality problems hands falling off etc. Their resale value is very low. Also their claims of

being Swiss made is questionable at best. Also their oversize hugness makes alot of people

see them as clown watches. Plus not to mention their horid CS.

You didnt try to hack in or disrupt this site did you? LOL

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In the rare instance in which I had to return a watch, I was not very happy about it.

However, VOILA! A new and better model shows up on Shop, and I completely forgot about

the one I returned.

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I always snicker at the oversize watch to "clown" correlation. I wear 50mm+ Invictas

because they match my body frame and I can read the dials but I have never been able to

find an "4X large" clown suit to wear with it. It seems the clown suits are designed to fit

smaller men .

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smaller men .

I always laugh at the resale value thing. 99% of the watches made don't retain their value.

It is like driving off in your new car and then "hating" on the car company because you can't

sell your car for as much as you originally paid for it 6 months ago.

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because they match my body frame and I can read the dials but I have never been able

to find an "4X large" clown suit to wear with it. It seems the clown suits are designed to fit

smaller men .

yup... That's it for me too!

Smaller watches look dainty on my 8.5 inch wrist.

BTW - I think clowns are awesome!

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Yes. But those problems are documented. The truth lies somewhere between invicta being a

company giving customers watches with the same quality/fit/finish/qc/cs for a fraction of the

price of other brands. And invicta being a company that has hands falling off of every other

model.

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I never got the oversize thing either. Its not just Invicta making large watches and Its not

the only thing Invicta makes. Its obvious they sell and sell well.

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It is like driving off in your new car and then "hating" on the car company because you

can't sell your car for as much as you originally paid for it 6 months ago.

Resale??? I thought I was buying them because I like to wear them!!!! LOL

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In the rare instance in which I had to return a watch, I was not very happy about it.

However, VOILA! A new and better model shows up on Shop, and I completely forgot

about the one I returned.

Therein lies a legitimate problem many have with invicta. They would rather them do a

better job making sure each model is completely free from defects before putting out the

next great thing. I think people get carried away with their hate, but I personally would

rather see less models and perhaps better QC.

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Yes. But those problems are documented. The truth lies somewhere between invicta being

a company giving customers watches with the same quality/fit/finish/qc/cs for a fraction of

the price of other brands. And invicta being a company that has hands falling off of every

other model.

Well I have 40 of them and different models and the hands are still on.I guess that theory

might be a bit exaggerated?

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Collecting can go in so many directions...if you can collect high end brands (Rolex,

Audemars, Hublot...etc), more power to you...no shame in that all, and many of us

appreciate that.

But if you only have so much $$$, then you get what you can and enjoy...Take Mr.

Horsetrack on this forum...many brands, styles and pricepoints in his "Look what I got"

posts...and you know what...HE ENJOYS IT!

Don't let anyone else tell you what belongs in your watch box(es). Get what you want and

puts a smile on your face when you wear it.

INVICTA...good designs (I don't see how they copied the SAS or Venom from anyone else),

good quality for the most part (EVERY manufacturer has problems...I woke up one morning














to find my Omega Schumacher with fog on the inside of the crystal. I thought it was curious

since its a wathch box queen and barely gets abused on a daily basis...my point is that

sometimes it's just luck...for me, the only problem I've ever had with INVICTA was a bezel

not lining up perfectly, but then I scrutinized my Omega Seamaster and the bezel was just

the millimeter off as well, so I felt better : ) Lol. But that's just my OCD acting up.

Just have fun with the hobby. Enjoy the comraderie around this forum. Enjoy the watches...I

get more questions wearing Invictas, like the DD Speedway than I do some of my other

"high" end watches like the customary Rolex Submariner EVERYONE should have in their

box...just kidding!!!

Let the flaming begin.

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I agree.

Many years ago I owned Rolex. Two years later I was lucky to get about half of what I paid

for it.

Most watches are not investment items.

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Well I have 40 of them and different models and the hands are still on.I guess that theory

might be a bit exaggerated?

I agree. Thats why I said its not the truth.

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I agree. Thats why I said its not the truth.

My apologies, I read it too fast. I should have been more careful.

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My apologies, I read it too fast. I should have been more careful.

My apologies as well. I'm trying to get used to this.kindle fire. I read that wrong

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Let those that own and have had a bad experience with Invicta complain and all

others get off the bus.

The expression "TV Brands" gets passed around a lot by the detractors as well. Is

it a tv brand if they are sold in brick and mortar stores as well as on air, on their

websites and other sites? Rhetorical question by the way.

Wouldn't it be a pain in the azz if we spent all day talking (if that's what you want

to call it) about who and/or what we hate? It would take all the time we had away

from being able to address what we really care for. Such a waste of time.

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Gee if all that is true how do you explain their popularity? Why do so many people absolutely

love the brand? Why are so many so loyal? Watches are definately trending up amongst all

the watch companies (except maybe Rolex). And they are a huge company so yes they have













had some growing pains. I read someone online making fun of people collecting multiples of

one model. Why would anyone do such a stupid thing? Well Invicta collectors know why.

Because we really like 'em!

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I don't really go visit other sites, except for one other forum and that was for some

information on a mod I did to my Casio. I try not to even acknowledge this hate stuff at all.

Just ignore as I have no interest in this issue. If you acknowledge something then you give it

substance and irrational hate in any form is a waste of my time!

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Yes...perfectly put, but Invicta has placed itself in a unique marketing position by blending in

its own unique designs providing as much as they can for the money most of the time where

it would be hard to find comparable value. As I said you shouldn't compare the Invicta

pieces to the metallurgy and finishing used , for example on Brietling or Rolex. I think

Invicta could do it but it would blow their price points up. Its a different philosophy that can

be appreciated, particularly by those of us that want to collect but can't spend college

money.

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I don't really go visit other sites, except for one other forum and that was for some

information on a mod I did to my Casio. I try not to even acknowledge this hate stuff at all.

Just ignore as I have no interest in this issue. If you acknowledge something then you give

it substance and irrational hate in any form is a waste of my time!

i made the mistake of lurking around another forum i wont name...i call it the dirty pond. lets

leave it at that. not pretty.....i was sorry i had the displeasure of reading their posts. just

below the belt terrible. as i said before, this is my place here. good info and great people!!!

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whatever!!!! i have 40 and hands are still on....nice try though...

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If someone is expecting a fair return for money invested then they should invest in

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If someone is expecting a fair return for money invested then they should invest

in gold and/or silver and pray the market keeps improving.

agreed x100

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I have owned about 70 Invictas and sold about 50. As a collector they remake too many of

watches and even LE lose their collectible pazazz. Also CS is a huge issu with not fixing

problems or sending them back worse than when I sent them in. There is clearly not the

same customer loyalty as many have brand loyalty to Invicta because they know at their

volume and value, my business is easily replaced.

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Quote:

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Gee if all that is true how do you explain their popularity? Why do so many people

absolutely love the brand? Why are so many so loyal? Watches are definately trending up



















amongst all the watch companies (except maybe Rolex). And they are a huge company so

yes they have had some growing pains. I read someone online making fun of people

collecting multiples of one model. Why would anyone do such a stupid thing? Well Invicta

collectors know why. Because we really like 'em!

Thats fine that you like them I collect myself. Thing is I have seen many people here belittle

others because they question why people need such a big watch. I have been reading the

forums here for a while, but there seems to be a common thread about the quality of

Invicta, just read the CS thread. The thing is I do not understand why people will spend hard

earned money on a watch only to have issues with the movement ie hands etc.

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I got butthurt at Invicta at one point a while back, but that was before I learned how to play

the game. This site has taught me a lot, and if you hold out for the good deals and resist to

have the latest and greatest RIGHT NOW, you will love your Invictas like I love mine. They

are really nice watches, but they are even better when you get a killer deal on them!

I pretty much stick to Reserve stuff, I seem to fall out of love with the "lesser" Invictas

rather quickly and end up selling them off. My tastes have changed a lot over the years too,

I used to be a SANIII and RD junkie, now the only big watches I wear are a Bolt and my

King GShocks.

Let the haters hate, buy what you like at the price you want and you will be a happy camper.

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The expression "TV Brands" gets passed around a lot by the detractors as well. Is

it a tv brand if they are sold in brick and mortar stores as well as on air, on their

websites and other sites? Rhetorical question by the way.

what i find funny about the "tv brand" thing is that these ppl go on about how invicta is just

a tv brand but they dont know or realize that shop sells also Rolex, by there theory that

because invicta is sold by a tv company makes it a tv brand i guess rolex would be also,

though without the air time

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hey look i hae like 13 if they make you happ then buy them, every co has problems some

get rejects . ive only had one problem w a reserve bracelet .

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I'll bet any Rolex, Tag, etc. watch owner here or anywhere that my Invicta tells the same

time and date that they are told by their Rolex, Tag or etc.. When reaching a certain point in

watch purchasing you're just paying for the name. They need to get over themselves. Yeah

I'll eventually purchase other names, but not because they tell better time or anything, but

because it's just a collectors variety. But all in all Invicta kills the competition. To be

completely honest I wouldn't wear a Rolex if it was given to me, because it's too small and

old styled for me. Id keep it only collection to show off an expensive piece but as far as

utilizing it, you gotta be kidding me. I wore bigger case watches in 5th grade. Toooooo small

for me. I'll stick with 50 mm and up. and for that Invicta does it best! Cheers.

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All those Invicta heaters in other watch forums were what drove me to WG. I just wanted to

ask a few simple questions about some specific Invicta watches, but on those other forums,



















just the mention of the name seemed to ignite a flame war of epic proportions. I still lurk in

other forums, but I don't contribute anything.

Watches to some people are a luxury item. They use them to express their wealth compared

to others and once you get into that mentality, you become arrogant and not someone that I

would care to hang out with. It's the same thing with other things as well. Watches, more

than any one of my other hobbies/interests, has this underlying snobbery associated with it.

Sometimes it's justified and other times its not.

I like Invictas because they are at a price that the masses like me can afford and thus you

don't have that snobbery associated with them. To each his own, but if it makes you feel

better about yourself by bashing others' posessions...you really should step back and take a

look at the bigger picture in life. That's just my opinion though.

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Really? I'd sure like for you to show me any $50 watch that compares to:

#1. Reserve Bolt Zeus

#2. Subaqua Specialty

#3. Subaqua Specialty Tourbillon

#4. Reserve Ocean Elite Speedway

#5. Reserve Pro Diver w/Valjoux 7750

Certainly you are entitled to your own opinion, but it ought to at least have some basis in

reality.

My $40 Pro Diver 0590 keeps better time than my $180 (what I paid, but much more

expensive in general) Sea Hunter 0412. Granted there are lots of criteria for quality for the

money spent, but accurate time keeping is one of the highest items on my high quality list.

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One need only to look at the post right above yours! LOL!

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Always good and bad thing about any Company..

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A $50.00 watch comparison should be done with $50.00 watches. The bolt, sas, tourbillon,

speedway and valjoux are not comparable to $50.00 watches becasue they are not selling

for that, they are much higher than that.

My favorite Invicta's are the simple grand and pro divers and the Unitas RD's. The RD's with

the Unitas are much higher than the divers so it would be foolish to compare them to each

other. Comparing a grand or pro diver to the Alpha brand would be a fairer deal. Both are

worth the money put out.

I have a large variety in my collection, some are very nice and some are beaters. I could

care less what someone says about what I buy. Like I don't care what people think of the

brand of bra or underwear I wear.

Every few months there is a new thread about this, a search would do wonders for the

people starting these threads. Nothing is learned. We bash them for bashing Invicta. Yet we

are better? All watch brands have people who don't like them, but their customers don't get

all butt hurt about it. This thread isn't about watches, it's about personalities.

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There's a lot of folks that bash Rolex, too.

Go figure.

But I'll admit.

Invicta does, on occasion, shoot themselves on the foot.

But hey, it's not like I'm gonna go out and take a hammer to every Invicta I own.

It's just stuff that happens.

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On the matter of preferring the lower priced Invictas or the more expensive ones, I notice

that after a while I strongly prefer the more expensive ones than the ones I "got a great

deal" on. The more expensive ones have the best movements and cases. Lately, I just save

myself the regret and don't buy the best deals. Quality counts in buying Invicta. As someone

once said (Stanley Marcus, I think), "You'll never regret buying the best." Stay in the NBZ

until you can.

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I have been buying them for about 5-7 years and I have seen a decrease in quality there is

NO denying that.

One could just as correctly state, "Customer A has been buying them for

about 5-7 years and has seen an increase in quality; there is NO denying that" ; or "Customer B has been buying them for about 5-7 years and has

seen a no change in quality; there is NO denying that"

















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is unique to the individual and does not necessarily reflect reality.

The bottom line is the statement is non sequitur.

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I look at other brands but Invicta is still king for me. I really like some of the Breitlings but

those prices! Can someone please explain how they can be THAT expensive! Is it 904 steel?

Is it made THAT much better? I need to know! There are many savvy watch folk buying

them...

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01-24-2012, 04:39 PM

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The is the silliest thread, several times a year someone

brings up this topic. Look if you like your Invicta watches that is all that matters, who cares

what other forums say about them. They function like watch should do, they tell you the

time and the look nice. The company make lots of models, and I seem to favor the lower

priced watch, if I am going to spend a grand on a watch, I feel there are other watch I like

better. Just my opinion. But, I am happy with the Invictas I own.

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Originally Posted by rjaybass

I look at other brands but Invicta is still king for me. I really like some of the Breitlings but

those prices! Can someone please explain how they can be THAT expensive! Is it 904

steel? Is it made THAT much better? I need to know! There are many savvy watch folk

buying them...

Watch "how do they do it?" swiss watches episode from breitling HQ and tell me if they're

worth it. I believe they are...

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01-24-2012, 05:51 PM

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Watch "how do they do it?" swiss watches episode from breitling HQ and tell me if they're

worth it. I believe they are...

Excellent point...look at Jochen Benzinger videos or panerai or V. Constantin, particularly

Glashutte Original regarding construction.....there simply is no way to compare Invicta to

these brands other than some design originality but material content, finishing, engineering

is vastly different and your paying for that.

I value Invicta and view it differently as it is market niched, appealing to a customer base

that either likes its styling and/or dollar value .

To Invictas credit 7750 and 7751 movements can be obtained in very attractive if not

beautiful pieces, (depending on your definition of what you find beautiful) but you should not

convince yourself that its the same as the above brands mentioned. Perhaps Invicta fans

(me included) assertion to this is what annoys other hi-line fans and makes them defensive

and aggressive.

That is , unfortunately , a problem really for them.

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01-24-2012, 06:07 PM

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In general, invicta makes a good product. with all the models and quanity they sell there are

will be some problems and that is understandable. the only issue that is how the problems

















are handled, invictas CS does need to be improved. many people would not be able to collect

watches if were not for invicta with there many designs and price points they have.

invicta keep the new models coming, but please improve your CS.

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01-24-2012, 06:21 PM

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I am pretty much just an Invicta watch person, I do own a couple of Renato's, and a couple of others but I

myself love the Invicta design. I don't care what others think, I know I am gettting alot for my money when I

buy an Invicta.

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01-24-2012, 07:01 PM

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I wouldn't really call the all haters.. For sure there are some that hate the brand but this is

probably true with any brand. From what I have read most of the complaints deal with what

alot of people post here, poor customer service, bad quality issues. This is not bashing at all

cause no watch company is perfect and constructive criticism should be respected.

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01-24-2012, 09:15 PM

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I honestly go with what I like and don't care what anyone thinks cause at the end of the day,

you didn't buy the watch for them, you bought it for yourself. Also the quality of the Invicta

watches are top notch and I don't know too many watch companies where you can talk

directly with the CEO from time to time and he actually takes what you have to say into

consideration when building new time pieces.

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Nobody comes close to the designs and options that Invicta puts out there at a reasonable

cost. They have no equal in this area really. No reason to hate that; just a reason to buy it

really.

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Its not so much Invicta that they hate,its this forum.A lot of these clowns were shown the

door here,and they cant seem to get over it.

Hmmm... Another good point!

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01-24-2012, 10:15 PM

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Some people just have to have something to complain about.

I have about 7 Invictas, 2 Stuhrling's, 1 Rotary, 1 Hamilton, 2 Timex that get regular wrist

time. Hell I paid more for one of the Timex than any of the others. (it has GPS and HRM

capabilities) I haven't paid over $100 for any of my Invicta's - several of which are autos and

one has a genuine alligator strap. I haven't had issues with a single one of them. The

Hamilton is a family heirloom so it didn't cost me anything. Very small (33 mm) and thin.

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01-24-2012, 10:20 PM

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Nobody comes close to the designs and options that Invicta puts out there at a reasonable

cost. They have no equal in this area really. No reason to hate that; just a reason to buy it

really.

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I own Rolexs, Breitlings, Tags, Hammys and many more people consider "mid to low end".

I love my Invictas for what they are. Big pieces of art.

Walking down the street, I get more looks and questions about my SAS or Arsenal than I do

when my Submariner or Chronomat are on.

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there is always going to be haters out there...as far as what you buy..buy what you like and

want its your money....what ever you do..dont get involved in a conversation with one of

them because no matter what you say to them they will say you are not right about what

ever you say to them....their aim is to downgrade or inflame the conversation with you at all

costs..the more upset you get with them the better they feel about it...dont waste your

time...I have around 30 invicta's right now and I love them and I have never had an issue

with any of them...I just took delivery on the latest tungsten and ceramic PD..I got the now

sold out blue version and I love it....as far as the haters..dont waste your breath with them

engaging in conversation with them..its a total waste of your time...

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01-25-2012, 05:48 AM

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"turd burgler"!!! love that moniker Ron. I thought I only called my dog that, lol. I, at times,

have commented on my own "invicta" problems, but none have amounted to much more

than finish issues (plating flaking off). then I have had an issue with my DB swiss ETA GMT.

had to send it to a watch maker on my own dime (purchased it from another geek here..)

when the day wheel gears malfunctioned after I had it for a few months. crap happens to all

brands. like the posts above say: "I buy what I like". Invicta makes great timepieces and

their designs are among the best in the world, IMHO. I just don't like busy dials and large,

oversized pieces. no harm, no foul...there are many who will take up my slack and pruchase

those pieces. and I do love this forum...I go nowhere else for my daily fix...

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Invicta ia the watch company with the most complications built into any of there watch cases

Bar None.

Any company can buy a movement and put it into a boring same old style 3 piece watch

case weather it be a diver or sport model. They build watch watches with cases and bracelets

that have attitude Invicta comes thru. CHEAPER then anyone.

I rather buy seven then one...

Ever see some of the bracelets that come with high end watches.

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the whole point of the thread was about the bashers at different forums. i think anyone

belonging to this forum has the right to vent and post their concerns. my issue is the other

forums that have members that were booted from here because of their cross the line posts.

so they go to another forum and spread hate and bash. they can stay there!!!!

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I know one site was created strictly because a guy got butthurt because he got banned from

here, so now he makes stories up just to make IWG and those who support them look bad.

Poor fishy.

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Funny stuff Ron!!!

I think some of them have nothing in their lives better to do than to

despise others who don't think the same way they do. If you read their

whole site...these people not only hate and despise you for buying an

Invicta....they also hate you if you don't drive the same car, buy the same

clothing, live in the same town...the list is long what they don't like. I find

it sad...because the one thing they really do hate is themselves. They live

miserable lives...and have nothing positive in their life's. You'll find that

most of these people don't even like the other people on their "hater"

site....So why waste your time.

People that have to make fun of others to make themselves feel good

about their own life, lead a miserable, self loathing life.

I have sold one of my wife's friends on Invicta because of the quality of

Invicta's bracelet. We were eating at a Japanese Restaurant and he saw

my PD Scuba and want to see it. He was amazed by the heft and feel of

the watch....and took off his 1990's Rolex to try it on. When he handed me




his Rolex...I was very surprised by the cheap feeling the Rolex bracelet

had...light weight....and felt like a $10 bracelet you could get at Walmart.

Now...I use to have a Rolex...an all SS 1985 Exp II ...and although the

bracelet wasn't as hefty as my Scuba...it still had some weight to it. He

now has about dozen Invicta's...all Pro Divers or Grand Divers...and when

he comes to town, he always makes a point of showing me his newest

Invicta...and he says he wife doesn't even mention it when he buys a new

Invicta...because he isn't spending $8-10 grand on the watch.

Oh yeah...for what it's worth....my Rolex spent more time in the shop than

it ever did on my wrist. I spent 2 or 3 times what the watch was worth on

repairs because the automatic movement wouldn't run for more than a few

months at a time before it would stop working properly. Finally...I got

tired of spending money on it, and it sat in its box for 7 years...until the

thieves that ransacked our townhouse after Katrina decided they wanted

it...!!! Do I bash Rolex because I had a bad experience...no...just got a

lemon....it happens. __________________

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it's so sad how angry some of those people are, WOW

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01-25-2012, 09:13 AM

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They're just watches (all brands), there's a lot more in life to get upset about. I have a lot of

Invictas, also Breitling, Tag, Raymond-Weil, Movado, etc. They all get time in the rotation. I

will say that the quality and finish on some of the Invicta's is right up there. My SAS mid-size

is stunning. Where Invicta does fall down is in customer service and initial quality sometimes

IMO. BUT when you're getting watches with Swiss automatic movements and the intricate

case designs that Invicta uses for offten 20% of the price of the luxury brands you really

can't complain. If you get a lemon ship it back.

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Interesting perspective

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishface5

YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD!, I started collecting invictas in march of 2011, i now have 50 of

them, they are nice time pieces, i didnt buy them to tell time with. I simply buy them as

you would buy art. I enjoyn the looks and feel of them why would i spend 3-4000 dollars

on a single watch that doesnt look and feel as good.

I fall into that category myself. Invicta watches have great visuals. Instead of owning a

forged Monet I would rather own an original impressionist piece from a less revered

artist.You’re not going to buy a Lexus for the price of a Sentra. Invicta has some nice

Altimas, metaphorically. Invictas problems have been discussed Ad nauseam. Keep in mind

many people have 100+ Invictas and have not had one problem. I have 21 now and no

issues. Put it on your personal balance beam...on one hand the pros, on the other the cons.

Too many negs for you, dont buy. Pros out weigh the negs, buy. Its not complicated.

Cheers Juice

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Oh yeah...for what it's worth....my Rolex spent more time in the shop than it ever did on my wrist. I spend 2 or 3 times what the watch was worth on repairs because the automatic movement wouldn't run for more than a few months at a time before it would stop working properly.

I had the same issues with the Rolex Date-Just that I had. It was beautiful, but spent so

much time in Switzerland that I should have brought cheese with it when it was "home" with

me.

My first Invicta automatic looks so much nicer than the Rolex and has kept perfect time for

over three years now.

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I own Rolexs, Breitlings, Tags, Hammys and many more people consider "mid to low end".

I love my Invictas for what they are. Big pieces of art.

Walking down the street, I get more looks and questions about my SAS or Arsenal than I

do when my Submariner or Chronomat are on.

Kevin, I too, get more compliments wearing my

Invicta watches than my two-tone Submariner or my

Cartier tank! For what you are getting, you just can't












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I really don't understand the haters, I think it is just ignorance and follow the sheep

syndrome. I have about 100 watches...Omega, Rolex, Breitling, GP, Longines, Hamilton, Ebel

and many many more. I love time...watches and clocks both. I enjoy my Invictas, I have 3

and will purchase more when I see another I like.

I feel that most of the so called haters probably never owned or even held an invicta so their

comments are unfounded, they just see their buddies trashing the brand and follow along. I

have followed threads on the other forums and every now and then you come across an

honest old timer that says yea I have or had one and they were pretty good.

I tell folks wear what you like and don't worry about what others think.

But you know, I do really get tired of hearing the same ole thing. One of the main reasons I

came to this forum.

The only questions I do have for the Invicta group is why, knowing what the relatively small

problems are, why don't they fix them?

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isnt the love of the watch for the wearer to decide not the label? I have some awesome

















looking 2 dollar watches for example this one here i love it ...how much did u ask? a buck

and a quater....

it aint a rolex but its sure does feel good

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I fall into that category myself. Invicta watches have great visuals. Instead of owning a

forged Monet I would rather own an original impressionist piece from a less revered

artist.You’re not going to buy a Lexus for the price of a Sentra. Invicta has some nice

Altimas, metaphorically. Invictas problems have been discussed Ad nauseam. Keep in mind

many people have 100+ Invictas and have not had one problem. I have 21 now and no

issues. Put it on your personal balance beam...on one hand the pros, on the other the

cons. Too many negs for you, dont buy. Pros out weigh the negs, buy. Its not complicated.


















Cheers Juice

Not quite following your metaphor. Are you equating a fine Swiss watch from a traditional

luxury manufacturer, say Patek, JLC or even Rolex, with a forged Monet? Wouldn't they be

genuine Monets?

So the difference between an original, genuine Monet and a lesser known artist isn't really a

question of authenticity, but merely the difference between the price of the work of a world

renowned master and a lesser one. Both are equally original - one simply sells for 1000

times the price of the other.

Personally, I'd love to have the original Le Pont d'Argenteuil hanging in the bedroom. It's

very pretty.

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You know the other anti forum is having a field day with this

whole thread...probably has the whole thread transplanted over

there for their own personal amusement....In the end I buy

what I like and could care less what the whole world thinks of

it...Invicta has been lambasted more than any other watch

company that I can think of but its still standing isn't it..I guess

all of that bashing isn't doing the other side any good...If I

hated a car company, lets say fiat for instance, and was

railroaded by them for whatever reason, I wouldn't spend my

days and nights telling the cyber communtiy what a horrible









company they were I would simply buy from someone else and

never look back...granted some of the gripes with Invicta are

legit, some are not...I have been collecting Invicta's for 3 years

running with only a hand full of minor issues...I'm still very

satisfied with the value I obtain from every watch I buy from

them and will continue to patronize them for a long time to

come..

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Not quite following your metaphor. Are you equating a fine Swiss watch from a traditional

luxury manufacturer, say Patek, JLC or even Rolex, with a forged Monet? Wouldn't they be

genuine Monets?

So the difference between an original, genuine Monet and a lesser known artist isn't really

a question of authenticity, but merely the difference between the price of the work of a

world renowned master and a lesser one. Both are equally original - one simply sells for

1000 times the price of the other.




Personally, I'd love to have the original Le Pont d'Argenteuil hanging in the bedroom. It's

very pretty.

Id rather have a $500 Invicta then a $500 dollar fake Omega,Rolex,etc

Cheers Juice

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Id rather have a $500 Invicta then a $500 dollar fake Omega,Rolex,etc

Cheers Juice

Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

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I love to ask opinions, but I don't like negative threads. Some people just don't have

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Hate to see bashing in the watch community. I now post only on this site as i find it to be a

very enjoyable like minded community. I've been collecting for years and own many

different brands, R's B's, whatever. I have 67 Invictas and find they are my everyday

watches.....really enjoy the cutting edge designs!!!!!!!!!!

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#156

01-29-2012, 07:09 AM

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Fyi the sea hunter strap that you say is photo shopped was posted on WG as well. It was an

actual defect and if you did some home work before jumping to conclusions that would help.

As far as IWG bashing goes you will always have some that feel this way I for one wouldn't

have a collection if it wasn't for Invictas prices and styles and a salesman named Jim

Skelton!
















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01-29-2012, 07:23 AM

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I think some people just like to ***** if they have someone to listen. I am 66 years old and

that has been my experience.

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#158

01-29-2012, 10:31 AM

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Good movements, good quality, good design, good price. Isn't that all that matters?

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#159

01-29-2012, 10:35 AM

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Like everything there's good and bad. I have few in collection and am pleased with them

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01-29-2012, 10:51 AM



























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Real Name: Dave

This is the only forum I've ever been a member of, but the curious side of me wondered

what all of the commotion is about and I searched some of those "other" watch sites... all I

found was Invicta and Shop bashing! Not one mention of what the members on those sites

liked/disliked about THEIR watches, just discussing (to great extent) how bad Invicta and

Shop are!!! That's unreal if you ask me. That would be like me putting down someone's

choice of, oh, I don't know... hot sauce! "How can you like so-and-so's hot sauce? They're

terrible! I've never tried theirs, but my hot sauce is the best because I paid more for it!"

Strange analogy, but I hope I get the point across. With that said, I own over 10 different

brands of watches, from $40 to $2500, and I keep coming back to Invicta!

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01-29-2012, 11:01 AM


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I am on many watch sites, including Koi's whine-a-thon.

The fact of the matter is this:

Enjoy what you like. There will always be people who are bent out of shape about the same

thing you enjoy.

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01-29-2012, 11:15 AM

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Well what can ya do...................................

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01-29-2012, 11:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rgattshall

Fyi the sea hunter strap that you say is photo shopped was posted on WG as well. It was


















an actual defect and if you did some home work before jumping to conclusions that would

help. As far as IWG bashing goes you will always have some that feel this way I for one

wouldn't have a collection if it wasn't for Invictas prices and styles and a salesman named

Jim Skelton!

I thought the SH with out holes was an acutal problem, but didnt know if I missed

something........

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01-31-2012, 08:31 PM


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Hey Rob. Good job! You got everybody out of winter hibernation!

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01-31-2012, 10:29 PM


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Quote:

Originally Posted by ccwatchman

Hey Rob. Good job! You got everybody out of winter hibernation!

If he had done a search he would have seen that this has been discussed, in length, before.

Again and again and again and that there was no need for this thread. There will always be

someone wanting to fit in more by jumping on the dead horse. Let's rally the troops so they

will like me more threads. Search is your friend.



















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