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The 2009 European Outsourcing Summit Marriott Chicago Downtown | September 22, 2009
The Challenge from
Local to Global Development By Jens Brinksten
The 2009 European Outsourcing Summit Marriott Chicago Downtown | September 22, 2009
Agenda
Setting the scene
The phases
First investigation and milestone
Second investigation and milestone
Pilot project phase and third milestone
Partner phase and fourth milestone
SimCorp Ukraine LLC
Overall lesson learned and conclusions
Q & A
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Setting the scene…
My name is Jens Brinksten,
I hold an MBA and HD-R from CBS
I am currently CEO of Refugees United
I have been SVP in SimCorp A/S, CEO of SimCorp Ukraine, CEO of Ernst & Young
in Uzbekistan, Director of KPMS’s Consultancy & Financial Advisory Service in
Central Asia and Director of EBRD’s Post-privatisation Fund in Uzbekistan.
I founded the outsourcing firm TechOutSys and have worked for a number of big
Danish companies in outsourcing questions, such as SimCorp A/S
During the past 22 years I have worked in more than 20 countries and started up
operational companies and operations in 16 countries
I have worked with privatisation and globalisation since year 1990
I have lived outside Denmark more that 10 years, mainly in East Europe and
Central Asia
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Setting the scene…
Who is SimCorp?
SimCorp develops and globally markets the investment management
system, SimCorp Dimension. Their product helps customers perform
the many tasks needed to stay ahead in today's international financial
markets.
The SimCorp product, SimCorp Dimension, meets the market's need
for an advanced system, which can exploit new technology and handle
complex transactions on a global scale. Since the customers, driven
by the need for continual efficiency gains, increasingly demand
integrated and flexible solutions, SimCorp's product is positioned to
exploit the growing market potential.
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Setting the scene…
2001/02
First investigation phase
2001/02
First milestone
2004/05
Second investigation phase
2005
Second milestone
2005
Pilot project phase
2005
Third milestone
2005/07
Partner phase
2007
Fourth milestone
2007/08
SimCorp Ukraine LLC and ongoing…
The timeline which we will go through today...
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First investigation phase – 2001/02
Motive
The major motive was to investigate the possibilities in outsourcing,
both external (potential partners) and internal (was SimCorp ready
to outsource), because the market in Denmark for qualified software
engineers became tighter, and SimCorp needed people for realizing
the company’s growth strategy.
Aim
Set up demands and try to investigate if there were potential
partners, who lived up to the expectations of SimCorp.
To test if SimCorp internally would be able to handle and cooperate
with a foreign partner in regard to product development.
Why?
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First investigation phase – 2001/02
Preparation
Preparation of requirements to a partner profile and other external
conditions
Profile (solid firm, references, price level, experience with firms similar
to SimCorp)
Staff (English proficiency, communication skills in general, educational
level, etc.)
Managerial competencies (both top management and middle
management)
Security (person, access, data and data connection)
Logistic and infrastructure
Stability (country and politics)
If possible, knowledge of the programming language APL (very
specialized development language for financial application)
How/What?
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First milestone - 2002
Execution
SimCorp’s visit to St. Petersburg, Russia – the biggest IT cluster in a
2-3 hours flight distance from Denmark – together with a
governmentally supported project, MindMatch (near-shore was a
pre-request)
There were discussions with the Russian IT industry organizations
and representatives from a number of companies
Additionally, there were arranged 5 “face to face” meetings and
visits to different potential partners in St. Petersburg during the
visits.
How/What?
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First milestone - 2002
Conclusion
After visiting St. Petersburg it was concluded that despite several of
companies lived up to a number of set criteria, no one was obviously
ready to a cooperation with a company like SimCorp.
Internally in SimCorp, it also gave a lot of resistance. People were
very skeptical regarding outsourcing and the possibilities for using
outsourcing in SimCorp, because of “their” highly specialized
product.
So at that time, SimCorp neither could find any suitable partners nor
was internally ready for an outsourcing “adventure”…
The outsourcing idea was put back on the shelf…
How/What?
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First milestone - 2002
Lesson learned
First “sell” the idea internally, before going out and investigating,
because if employees are not involved, then they react negatively
and against the idea…
Get the top management to support the idea strategically, so people
understand it will become a vital part of the company’s strategy…
Have a clear vision of the long-term strategy for outsourcing, so that
you can set up an overall plan and guideline for the project, including
exit strategy, etc.
Be ready to say NO… and turn down the project
How/What?
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Second investigation phase – 2004/05
Motive
After a couple of years, it became obvious for SimCorp, that the
company needed external resources, because it became very
difficult to find and hire qualified people in Denmark.
Aim
SimCorp hired a small consultancy firm, specializing in IT offshore
outsourcing, to perform a qualified investigation, and through these
findings establish a knowledge basis for making final decision of,
whether SimCorp should try out outsourcing as a business model for
expanding development capacity.
Why?
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Second investigation phase – 2004/05
Preparation
Similar to the first investigation, but this time
also with focus on long term availability of
resources (universities, etc.)
Investigation of more countries (geopolitical
investigation, cultural evaluation, etc.), so a
more comprehensive evaluation could be done
for overall conclusions
Focus on infrastructure and security
Internal readiness in SimCorp was ensured
through information meetings and establishment
of focus groups
Near-shore region
Countries
Cities/
clusters
Firms
How/Where?
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Second investigation phase – 2004/05
Execution
Country investigation
Visit to and investigation of 4 countries,
which were selected based on a set of
criteria, put forward by a steering committee
An overall “ideal” country profile was
prepared for evaluation
2 countries were selected for closer
assessment (Lithuania and Ukraine).
Ukraine got priority, because of better long-
term conditions i.e. availability of technical
universities and national mentality (pro-west)
Russia/Bulgaria
Ukraine/Lithuania
Lithuania/
Ukraine
UKRAINE
How/Where?
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Second investigation phase – 2004/05
Execution
Potential partner investigation
Visit to Ukraine, and selection of 8 potential
vendors
Preparing an overall partner profile
Special requirements regarding knowledge and
willingness to special education (APL and financial
understanding, incl. high level of English)
Selection of 3 vendors for Due Diligence. Two
were selected and presented for a MoU. One
vendor withdrew, and one vendor accepted
starting up a pilot-project
One more firm was selected as a second test firm
for a pilot and accepted the MoU
8 firms
3 firms
1 + 1 firm
How/Whom?
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Second milestone - 2005
Conclusion
It is very important to evaluate the potential country with the long
term prospective in mind
In regard to potential partners, you should NOT go on compromises
with your demands (have a good gut feeling…)
One should set up very clear terms to the potential partners and the
cooperation agreement, including expected future contractual terms
for the entire intended cooperation process, in first hand develop a
MoU for the pilot period
SimCorp spoke with managers, but also interviewed team leaders
and business analysts from the potential partner firms, so SimCorp
got an better idea of the competence level during the Due Diligence
process
How/Where?
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Second milestone - 2005
Conclusion
Focus areas (all parts of a MoU)
Pre-conditions to the partner and the employees involved in the start up
phase, including cost- and risk-sharing, which gives motivation…
How do SimCorp end this fast and easy for both parties, if the pilot does
not work out as expected
Conditions in connection to running the operation, incl. staff
specification, staff turn-over, educational level, special expected
training, costs sharing for training, roles and responsibilities, etc.
Exit conditions and future growth opportunities
SimCorp was here looking for JV possibilities, both as a potential
umbrella for a bigger setup, but also as a “carrot” for the partners
Internally, SimCorp management considered the possibility to
establish an own setup in the longer perspective…
How/Where?
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Pilot project phase – 2005
Start-up of pilot project
There are hired staff to the project and they are checked by
SimCorp and several are replaced (if more then 20% are rejected or
replaced, then the partner should cover the costs for replacements)
The first training takes place in SimCorp’s premises in Copenhagen
Secure Citrix connection is established and SimCorp gets own
secure rooms at the partners’ premises
Overall communication is tested and started up, so management in
SimCorp can follow the pilot project
Pilot plan is set up together with key milestones and objectives
How?
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Pilot project phase – 2005
Lesson learned
You need to be very clear in your wishes and demands in the MoU
Get everything in a written form (MoU)
Think through the whole process from start to end, so the contract
between you and your partner foresees all potential scenarios
(contingencies) in the cooperation process
Be ready to close the project (milestones), if it does not work out!
Keep your internal organization informed about every step in the
process, so they understand the expected steps
Establish a steering group with participants from all internally
involved parties. Appoint a Project Manager for being overall
responsible for the project…
Have a clear mind about the next steps…
How?
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Third milestone - 2005
The pilot projects are finished with satisfactory results, and it is
decided to continue full-scale cooperation with both pilot companies
The resources in the project will be incorporated in the overall
development strategy of SimCorp, which requires much more training
and knowledge transfer about SimCorp and SimCorp Dimension.
A contract (Cooperation Agreement) is signed, with focus on a long
term relationship (based on the MoU), but covers areas such as:
Selection of all staff
Training, staff development, special APL and financial training, etc.
Organizational setup, so it fit into the SimCorp organization
Security of premises
Equipment, etc.
Bonus, salaries, benefits, promotions, etc.
How?
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Partner phase – 2005
SimCorp expatriates a full-time Project Manager to Kiev
SimCorp starts up an educational program for the outsourcing staff
(SimCorp Academy), which covers deep financial knowledge and
technical knowledge used in SimCorp Dimension
Measurement of productivity is started, so the resources can be
compared to all other SimCorp staff
Two more full-time employees are expatriated to Kiev, as trainers
and coaches
The offshoring development capacity is gradually increased to
around 45 to 50 people (both developers and testers)
English training is intensified, for better communication
Involvement of as much Danish staff as possible on all levels, for
getting more acceptance in the organization
How/Operation?
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Partner phase – 2005/07
Conclusion
The training and development of the staff goes well and the
knowledge and skills level increases
The productivity increases
But Ukrainian staff are very young and inexperienced, both
professionally and personally, so the maturity sometimes does not
follow the norms in SimCorp
SimCorp invests app. € 20.000 in each employee during the first 18
months in training, development competences and knowledge
sharing (travels, courses, training, etc.), which all is needed for
being a part of the development organization in SimCorp
The project can be evaluated as a “success story” for SimCorp,
even that there is still some resistance in the home organization
How/Operation?
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Partner phase – 2005/07
Lesson learned
Project Management needs involvement of senior employees,
because by sending inexperienced staff with such a mission neither
will earn respect of partners nor that of home employees…
Offshore outsourcing is not cheap, requires a lot of resources, both
in terms of investments and hours from internal staff…
A lot of training and effective knowledge-sharing is a key to success
with a complex product as SimCorp’s
Again contracts (Cooperation Agreement) are the key to success!
Communication on all levels is a crucial element of the overall
success, because this is the only way everybody learns to accept
each other as persons and professionals
How/Operation?
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Fourth milestone - 2007
The setup in Kiev reaches a critical mass level, where it becomes
strong enough to be integrated in the full development cycle in
SimCorp, but there are some constraints:
If developers should work with client data, they need to be fulltime employees of
SimCorp according to client contracts.
It is the aim to give all people who work for SimCorp the same basic working
conditions and benefits…
With other words… How to secure SimCorp’s investment in people and
knowledge and still promote and develop the setup in Kiev?
According to the existing contracts SimCorp consider the opportunity
to establish JV with the existing partners
Would it be possible to retain existing staff?
Would it be possible to move around on Kiev staff, if it is not a 100% owned
company?
Contractual obligations to clients, etc.
How/Operation – Next step - Transformation?
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Fourth milestone - 2007
With all the question marks in mind, and the wish to “run” the
operations on 100%, it is decided to establish a wholly owned
subsidiary in Kiev
Because it is not considered to be sufficient enough to cover security clauses
regarding client data in SimCorp client contracts, if it is not a 100% owned
subsidiary
It will be easier to make decisions and form the offshoring development capacity
as an integrated SimCorp company
It will be easier to implement all normal SimCorp staff benefits in a 100% owned
subsidiary
Retention of staff would hopefully become easier, and the acceptance of Ukraine
staff in the total organization should be improved
Finally, this is a decision, which is made because of positive results
and experiences!
How/Operation – Next step - Transformation?
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SimCorp Ukraine LLC – 2007/08
Transfer of staff
SimCorp starts up the negotiations regarding moving existing
partner employees into a SimCorp owned company…
SimCorp divided the employees into two groups, A) Senior important people with
key knowledge and skills, B) Other qualified people
The negotiations are, of course, focused on the lost revenue for the partners,
and here it is agreed to have a transition period of 18 months, which means the
employees will stay as consultants in 18 months, where SimCorp would pay for
them as for partner employees
The above mentioned 18 months period is also considered as a trial period for all
B-employees. A-employees are “taken over” already from the establishment of
the new company.
There is also set a final take-over price for the employees, which is only paid, if
the employees pass the 18 months trial period with satisfactory results
There are made a number of different agreements regarding HR support, etc.
Today all Ukrainian resources are SimCorp employees
How/Operation – Next step - Transformation?
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SimCorp Ukraine LLC – 2007/08
SimCorp starts the establishment of a subsidiary in Kiev (LLC)
SimCorp hires a professional management to the company
The long establishment process starts in October 2007 and by
February 2008 the new company is more or less established with
the office space (planned to 150 people), furniture, internet
connections, IT equipment, etc.
Next step is to establish all administrative functions in the company,
including HR, Finance and Administration, internal IT support, etc.
In March 2008, the major establishment is finished and the company
starts working as an integrated daughter company of SimCorp.
How/Operation – Next step - Transformation?
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SimCorp Ukraine LLC – Today
SimCorp have of course experienced a number of challenges since
the establishment of SimCorp Ukraine LLC, such as:
Discipline problems with employees, which came from the original outsourcing
project (here SimCorp have had to say goodbye to several people)
Infrastructure problems (bandwidth)
Communication challenges (SimCorp have now installed 2 video conference
rooms) and SimCorp have increased English training
Acceptance problems between “old” SimCorp employees and Kiev-based
employees
Level of local management and management skills (here SimCorp have enforced
special management training for Kiev-based managers)
Team building of employees “taken-over” from the two partners, and those hired
directly to the new company is not always easy
All administrative areas in relation to employees, authorities, technical setup,
building, etc., etc.
Operation?
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SimCorp Ukraine LLC – Today
SimCorp Ukraine LLC today
Since establishment in February 2008 SimCorp hired more than 70 people and
performed 3 SimCorp Academies, and SimCorp are still growing
Have increased productivity with around 50% (have around 35% of the total
production of code in SimCorp)
Have lowed the cost per employee in Kiev with around 3.600 EURO per year,
which on a yearly basis gives a cost saving of 432.000 EURO since the own
subsidiary start up and compared with the costs in the past
The turnover of people has fallen drastically, and it is not just because of the
financial and economical crisis…
Operation?
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Overall lesson learned and conclusions
Overall lesson learned
Key elements in a successful outsourcing and insourcing:
Management and decision wise:
Thorough investigation and preparation
Clear goals regarding demands, profile of partners and external
conditions
Clear milestones and evaluation points
Ability and courage to say STOP and NO
The project should be approved and supported from the top
management, and it should be clearly communicated that it is a
company’s goal to succeed
Clear long term overall company strategy
Constant communication to all involved parties (internal and
external)
Operation?
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Overall lesson learned and conclusions
Overall lesson learned
Contractual wise:
Prepare always either a LoI (letter of intention) or MoU in the
preliminary phase, when you start up a corporation, so all involved
parties no the conditions for the corporation
Think through the whole expected scenario from the first contact to
the exit (both in case of unsuccessful and successful exit)
Focus on all potential ways of continuing the project both with or
without the selected partner/partners
Setup terms and conditions for staff in case of changes in the
cooperation (remember the staff carry the investment element,
because of training and knowledge transfer, etc.), how can SimCorp
get them to stay with the project or company, etc.
Operation?
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Overall lesson learned and conclusions
Overall lesson learned
Other learning points:
Outsourcing vendors’ commitment then to fall during the
cooperation period, because they get new clients and new focus
areas, make sure you keep their focus on YOU!
Use experienced project managers, with extensive knowledge and
understanding of culture and local management skills
It is “easy to be popular, but difficult to be respected” in many
countries as a foreign manager…
Keep regular follow up meetings and have clear measurement
points and milestones (steering committee, reporting, evaluations,
etc.)
When all involved parties operate in 2nd languages, then there are
huge possibilities for misunderstanding and mistakes
Operation?
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Overall lesson learned and conclusions
Conclusion
Planning and a clear view of the total expected operation on both
short and long term is a key to success
Good preparations and preparatory work pays off
The contractual framework should be thought well through, with all
possible scenarios
You can not use standard contracts in a full-scale and long-term
outsourcing/insourcing operation, as there are no standards, which
cover all potential scenarios…
Involve experienced people from day one and do not “just” select
the one who wants or a “rookie”, because in the long run it is very
expensive and will give extra “challenges” and problems..
Remember the 3 T’s – “Things Take Time” – it is a key point to
remember, if you want to operate in outsourcing...
Operation?
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