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    Robert Hand, Astrologer

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    Firdar, Alfridaria, or Alfridariesan astrological Time Lord system

     This article was written by leading traditional astrologer, Robert Hand. He also translated the source

    material from Johannes Schoener and other ancient authorities.

    All material is copyright © Robert Hand and may not be reproduced in any form without permission.

    Schoener's Table of Alfridaries 

     The rst of the names gien aboe is the original !ersian, more or less. The second isthe "atin ersion which is deried from adding the Arabic article #al# to #rdar#. The lastersion of the word is the Anglicised form. There are many ariants of all of the aboeforms of the word. These are a system of planetary periods which appear to be of!ersian origin. They are rst described as far as we $now by Abu %ashar in ariouswor$s and hae their origin in a system of mundane cycles intended for the long termprediction of historical eents. &ut as we hae them, they are the small rdar and areclearly intended for use in predicting for indiidual charts.

    'irdar are a system of planetary periods much li$e the dasa systems of (ndia. (t is one of the few such systems to come into medieal western astrology, een though there were)uite a few such systems in *ree$ +ra astrology.

    (n all of these systems the arious planets are assigned rulerships oer periods of timein the life according to some scheme peculiar to each system. (t is also typical of thesesystems, and the rdar are no eception, that there are two or more planets holdingrulership oer any particular time. There is a planet which has a long period rulershipoer the #ma-or period# which is often referred to as a #ma-or ruler#. This ma-or period inturn is subdiided further into subperiods or minor periods#, which are also assigned torulers of their own, often refered to as #minor rulers#. Howeer, we hae discoered from*ree$ sources that such designations may not be appropriate as in those systems the#minor ruler# is often more important than the #ma-or ruler#. e do not $now at this timewhether that is true in rdar. (ncidentally, in some other systems subperiods are furthersubdiided into een shorter periods again and again. This does not seem to hae beentrue of the rdar where we only hae the long/period ruler and the short/periodsubruler.

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     The system of rdar as we hae them is an etremely simple system, so much so thatmy immediate reaction was one of disbelief that something so simple could be e0ectie.Howeer, use of the system has coninced me that they hae considerable meritalthough much wor$ needs to be done to determine eactly what $ind of predictiepurpose the rdar most ably sere. So far ( hae been using them for general purpose

    prediction.

     General Comments Applicable to all Period Systems

     The general idea of all period systems is the same. (n conentional natal astrologyplanets hae rulership oer particular areas of life deried from two sources1 therulership of each planet oer its own peculiar sphere of life otherwise $nown as itsgeneral signication2 and in each chart each planet has rulership deried from itsrulership oer houses. This could be regarded as a $ind of 3spatial3 rulership becausemetaphorically the planets hae rulership oer 3areas3 of life.

    &y contrast all period systems assign planets rulership oer times of a natie#s life, not -ust instances the way transits, progressions, and directions do, but oer spans of timewith denite beginning and ending dates. This results in each period and subperiodhaing a special set of )ualities determined by the long/period and short/period rulers. These )ualities are in turn deried from the rulers# general signication and theirrulership oer houses.

    As a conse)uence when a planet becomes either a long or short/period ruler, the issuesthat it has rulership oer become heightened in signicance and brought to the fore.hen there is a period in which two planets which are in aspect with each both becomerulers, one being the short/period ruler, the other being the long/period ruler, the issuesindicated by the aspect come especially to the fore.

    (n Hindu astrology or Jyotish the dasa or long/period ruler and the bhu$ti or short/periodruler seem to hae their greatest impact in terms of the houses they rule and occupy. Therefore, it is ery di4cult to ma$e general statements about the )uality of any dasa/bhu$ti rulership period without haing reference to house positions, house rulerships,and of course the dignity and debility of the rulers, themseles. 5n the face of it thiswould seem to true of the rdar as well. The )uality of a period under the rdarrulerships should be a function of the houses occupied and ruled by the two rulers, andtheir dignities and debilitied both essential and accidental.

     6et the literature on the use of the 'irdar is scant. And one of the most comprehensietreatises on their use delineates the periods not so much in terms of the houserelationships of the rulers as in terms of their general signications. So we hae thetreatise on the delineations of the rdar from Johannes Schoener from &oo$ ((( of

    his Three Books on the Judgment of Nativities which is a part of this boo$let. Thesedescriptions are based almost entirely on the general signications of the rulers. Thismay not be due entirely to theoretical considerations, howeer, as much as to practicalones. 5ne cannot possibly delineate all pairs of planets interacting with each other inthe chart in terms of their arious and multitudinous interactions with the houses. Thisre)uires an astrologer wor$ing in the contet of the indiidual chart.

     The Scheme of the Firdar

    +ach planet has its own period or rdar. These are listed in irtually all traditionalastrology which describe the attributes of the planets. Howeer, the rdar proceed in aery simple order in which the only thing that aries is whether the natie is born by

    day 7Sun aboe the hori8on9 or by night 7Sun below the hori8on9. The order is the:haldean order in which the planets are arranged in ascending order of speed in the

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    &ong%Period Rulers Sa Ju Ma Su Ve Me Mo

    Short%Period Rulers?..B.=.

    Sa Ju%a

    SuEe%e%o

     Ju%aSu

    Ee%e%oSa

    %aSuEe

    %e%oSa Ju

    SuEe%e

    %oSa Ju%a

    Ee%e%o

    Sa Ju%aSu

    %e%oSa

     Ju%aSuEe

    %oSa Ju

    %aSuEe%e

     he ne't table contains the lengths o# the short%periods.

    Planet Period Subperiod

      Saturn

     Jupiter%arsSunEenus%ercury%oon

    ?? yrs.

    ?< yrs.= yrs.?F yrs.C yrs.?@ yrs.D yrs.

      ? yr. B mos. mos. days? yr. ? mo.

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    • S. Node

    and the nocturnal se)uence would be

    Moon

    • Saturn

    •  Jupiter

    • Mars

    • N. Node

    • S. Node

    • Sun

    • Venus

    • Mercury

     This is as opposed to the se)uence gien by eeryone else1

    • Moon

    Saturn

    •  Jupiter

    • Mars

    • Sun

    • Venus

    • Mercury

    • N. Node

    • S. Node

     The se)uence is obiously true for day births, because the Sun is therst period and %ars is the last period of the ones ruled by the planets.:learly the periods of the nodes follow that of %ars, and when they arenished, one starts oer again with the period of the Sun. The )uestionconcerns night births.

     The rst of these two sources is Alcabitius#s Introduction to Astrology .

    Here is the entire section from the fourth section of the boo$.3And the arrangement of the rdar is according to this1 This is if thenatiity is diurnal. (n the beginning of life the Sun has rulership by

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    means of the arrangement of his rdar according to the )uantity of theyears of his rdar which are ten. After that the planet which succeedsthe Sun Ghas rulership. This is Eenus the years of whose rdar are eight.And after Eenus the planet which succeeds her Ghas rulership and it is%ercury and his years are thirteen. Then Gcomes the %oon and theyears of her rdar are nine. Then Saturn, and the years of his rdar are

    eleen. Then Jupiter, and the years of his rdar are twele. Then %ars,and the years of his rdar are seen. Then the Head of the Iragon, andthe years of its rdar are three. Then the Tail of the Iragon, and theyears of its rdar are two. %oreoer, the years gathered together atonce become => years. After that, the disposition reerts to the Sun andli$ewise up to the last of the planets.

    Howeer, if the natiity should be nocturnal, the disposition begins fromthe %oon, and she will dispose the years of her rdar which are nine."i$ewise planet Gcomes after planet -ust as we hae describedpreiously concerning the Sun...3 The problem is that Alcabitius does not actually spell out the nocturnalse)uence. He only implies it.

     The other source that seems to agree with Alcabitius is *uido &onatti. The only problem here is that &onatti#s passage is almost erbatim thesame as the original Alcabitius and is clearly a )uotation of Alcabitius. Therefore, we hae only one real source for the nocturnal placement ofthe nodal periods between %ars and the Sun and this one source isambiguous.

    All other sources which eplicitly spell out the nocturnal se)uence of therdar place the two nodal periods at the end of the => year cycle forboth the day and night se)uences -ust as we show here. Therefore, wehae to say that is highly unli$ely that een Alcabitius intended that thenode periods should go between the periods of %ars and the Sun innight births.

      Table of Alfridaries

    A Table of the Alfridaries Derived from Schoener 

      A Table of the Two Universal Alfridaries Which Will erve for the

    !enitures of All "ersons.

    'or Iiurnal ;atiities 'or ;octurnal ;atiities

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    ?<

    ?>B@?@?F

       Ju Ju %a Ju Su

    ><>>B

    B

    ><

      %o%oSa%o Ju

    ?<@

    ?FF>?><

    ><?F?>B

    Su%oSuSaSu Ju

    >=C

    <

    =>DB?

    @?@

    B=

    ><?>B@>>>

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    %aEeEe%e

    ???<

    ><?F

    %a%aSu

    BB>

    FF

    %eSaSa Ju

    ?F?<

    <

    Su%e%e%o

    >CBF

    @?@

    ?>B

    B

      S;SuSuEe

    =>=B==

    F?>B@?@

       Ju %a Ju Su Ju Ee

    <

    @?@

      S;%o%oSa

    ==B==

    F?F

    BB<

    @?@?>B

    F

    Sa%aSaSuSaEe

    B=

    BF

      %e Ju ?FF ?>B Su JuSu

    %a

    =D

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    %oon ta$es the rst rdar, then Lronos, then Meus, then Ares, in accordance with the prior

    order. 7Abu %aKshar, $n olar %evolutions, part