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#13 (197) 14-20.III, 2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.ge; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari

biZina ivaniSvili biZinaivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg

mimarTva qarTvel xalxsmogiwodebT yvelas, visac

survili gaqvT, qarTuli fuli-

T da patriotuli suliskveTe-

biT davamarcxoT saakaSvilis

nacmoZraoba oqtombris sapar-

lamento arCevnebSi, Tavad Cven,

xalxma movuspoT ciliswamebis

safuZveli am gaTavxedebul xe-

lisuflebas, romelic usindi-

sod amtkicebs ivaniSvili `ru-

suli fuliT~ rusuli saqmis gakeTebas apireb-

so. sasurveli iqneba, Tu fulis Semwirveli mo-

qalaqe Tavis vinaobas da Tanxis warmomavlobas

oficialurad daafiqsirebs, riTac saakaSvilis

prokuraturas xel-fexi Seekvreba da Semwirve-

lisgan misTvis sasurvel Cvenebas veRar mii-

Rebs.

piradad me erTaderTi qoneba maqvs _ 1992

wels gamoSvebuli msubuqi avtomobili `ford-

eskorti~, romelsac am dReebSi gavyidi da Tan-

xas `qarTuli ocnebis~ angariSze gadavricxav.

vTxov WeSmaritebisTvis mebrZol yvela ga-

zeTs am gancxadebis gavrcelebas.

qarTuli fuliT davamarcxoT es umgvani xe-

lisufleba!

merab SaTiriSvili,, mmwweerraallii

biZina ivaniSvili: `wasvla mindoda aqedan

da Cems gadawyvetilebas imiT vxsnidi, rom po-

litikaSi mosvliT me TviTonve vangrevdi Cems

mierve savaldebulod miCneul normas, rom me

arasodes moval politikaSi da ar gadavuxvev im

msoflmxedvelobas, romelic avirCie.~

zaza gogsaZe:

2012 wlisarCevnebsaucilebladmovigebT!`bela Cao~, `bela

Cao~, anu biZinaivaniSvilis gzavnilinino burjanaZes

saakaSvilis momxreebi, rogorc maimuns abrunebengaliaSi, ise abrundebden gaqceul prezidents sxdomaTa darbazSi

TbilisSi xuTi didi meCeTi Sendeba?!

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_ Cemi deklaracia aris es saavadmyofo! Cemi dekla-

racia aris axali skolebi! Cemi deklaracia aris axali

gzebi! Cemi deklaracia aris axali Senobebi! Cemi dekla-

racia aris, es, es, es, es _ emociurad Slida xelebs

batoni mixeili da mis mier Tu sxvis mier gakeTebul

saqmeebze Tavmomwoned RaRadebda da RaRadebda.

Tavmdabali kacia batoni mixeili da Tavis `deklara-

ciaSi~ araferi uTqvams imis Sesaxeb, rom misi deklara-

ciaa _ dakarguli afxazeTi da e.w. samxreT oseTi, aTi-

aTasobiT patimari da asiaTasobiT probacioneri, mili-

onamde siRaribis zRvars qvemoT mcxovrebi moqalaqe, qu-

CaSi Caxocili axalgazrdebi, gayalbebuli arCevnebi, Se-

uracxyofili da gaupatiurebuli demokratia, farTod

danergili SiSi, terori, siyalbe, demagogia, saqarTve-

losTvis da danarCeni msofliosTvis TvalSi Seyrili

tonobiT nacari da kidev sxva uamravi sikeTe.

qarTveli politiko-

sebi ufro advilad da

iolad xvdebian ruseTis

prezident putins, vidre

saqarTvelos prezident

saakaSvils.

rogorc TviTon Tqva,

putins uyvars qarTvele-

bi da albaT, amitomac

arasodes ar ambobs uars

maTTan Sexvedraze.

saakaSvilsac uyvars

qarTvelebi, oRond mxo-

lod iseTi qarTvelebi,

romlebsac mis danaxvaze

eleT-meleTi emarTebaT

da egreve miSa-miSas yvi-

rils iwyeben.

putini mesamed gapre-

zidentebidan meoTxe

dResve saakaSvilis mier

gandevnil morig qarT-

vels Sexvda da karga

xans esaubra.

marTalia, aravin icis,

raze isaubres qarTvelT-

moyvare putinma da puti-

nis moyvare am qarTvelma,

magram es arcaa mTavari

_ mTavari isaa, rom Sex-

vdnen.

rogorc kuluaruli

informacia iuwyeba, qar-

Tvels putinisTvis uk-

iTxavs, ras upireb, vova,

saqarTvelos da mis xe-

lisuflebaso? imas kidev

mokled upasuxia _ sa-

qarTvelos Semoevlos

Cemi Tavi, magram mis xe-

lisuflebas saTofed ar

gavikarebo.

am ambis gasagebad xom

ar miagzavnes es opozi-

cioneri qarTveli, ro-

gorc amboben, putinis

megobari, putinTan miSam

da misma biWebma?

Sexvedraze, imazec

yofila saubari, daabru-

nebs bolos da bolos

putini afxazeTs da e.w.

samxreT oseTs Tu ara?

vera da ver gaiges am

Wkvianma qarTvelebma,

rom putins Zalianac rom

undodes, arafris dabru-

neba ar SeuZlia.

mas SeuZlia warTmeva,

magram dabruneba mis

Zal-Rones aRemateba.

putinis bolodroin-

deli gancxadebebi kidev

ufro aZlierebs eWvs,

rom putini kaspis raio-

nis sof. metexidanaa da

saqarTvelos xelisuf-

lebasTan, rogorc sayva-

rel `zemliakebTan~, fa-

ruli siyvaruli da me-

gobroba akavSirebs.

albaT, amitomacaa kr-

izisul momentSi batoni

putini iseT `satopkes~

auwevs xolme miSas, rom

wasaqcevad gamzadebuli

saakaSvili myisve welSi

imarTeba.

niSandoblivia erTi

garemoebac: qarTveli po-

litikosebidan vinc pu-

tinTan Cavida, yvela po-

litikur samareSi Cavida

da iqidan maT amoTxras

da gacocxlebas wlebi

dasWirdeba, miSa ki

kvlav mxned aris da Za-

lauflebis daTmobas arc

apirebs.

sanam iqneba vova, iqne-

ba miSac, gasulelebuli

qarTvelebi ki aRma-daRma

irbenen moskovsa da Tbi-

liss Soris...

sanam iqneba vova, iqneba miSac...

Salva, Cemo sixarulo

deklaranti

3#13 (197), 14-20.III, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

gvesaubreba biZina ivaniSvi-

lis mrCeveli, diplomati za-za gogsaZe:

_ batono zaza, ra xdeba

`qarTul ocnebaSi~, rogor mim-

dinareobs partiuli struqtu-

rebis mSeneblobis procesi?

_ yalibdeba `qarTuli ocne-

bis~ organizaciebi, aqtiurad

vxvdebiT regionebis mosaxleo-

bas da vemzadebiT oqtombris

arCevnebisTvis. ra Tqma unda,

Sors varT im azrisgan, rom ar-

Cevnebze yvelaferi rigze iqne-

ba, magram merwmuneT Tu gayal-

beba moxdeba, xalxi Tavis saTq-

mels mainc ityvis.

_ Tumca, arasamTavrobo or-

ganizaciebi Riad saubroben ima-

ze, rom am pirobebSi SeuZlebe-

lia opoziciam xelisuflebas

mougos gayalbebis gareSec ki.

_ ara, piriqiT, gamovricxav

xelisuflebis mxridan am arCev-

nebis mogebas. rasakvirvelia,

saarCevno siebi unda dazust-

des, vibrZolebT, raTa yvelafe-

ri Tavis CarCoSi Cajdes. mTava-

ri mainc arCevnebze xalxis mos-

vlaa. maT ar unda CaTvalon,

rom arCevnebi mainc gayalbdeba

da modi saxlSi davrCebiTo.

TiToeuli adamianis aqtivobas

gadamwyveti mniSvneloba eqneba.

imedi maqvs da darwmunebulic

var, rom Zalian maRali aqtivo-

ba iqneba imitom, rom xalxs ase

cxovreba ukve aRar SeuZlia,

isini cvlilebebisTvis emzade-

bian, rac arCevnebis gziT unda

moxdes.

_ saarCevno garemos gaumjo-

beseba axseneT, Tumca am sakiTx-

ze, samwuxarod xelisuflebas-

Tan SeTanxmeba ver SeZlo verc

opoziciurma `rvianma~, verc

èqvsianma~ da Sedegad miviReT

uaresi saarCevno garemo piro-

bebi, vidre wina wlebSi iyo.

_ diax, rasakvirvelia, am

mimarTulebiT aqtiuri samuSao-

ebia Casatarebeli. Zalian cu-

dia, roca xelisufleba amaze

ar mogvyveba, magram Cven far-

xmalis dayras ar vapirebT. pi-

riqiT, sazogadoebis aqtiuro-

bis daxmarebiT 2012 wlis ar-

Cevnebs aucileblad movigebT da

xelisuflebas gadamwyvet dar-

tymas mivayenebT. ar gegonoT,

rom xelisufleba mSvidadaa.

igi swored imitom ar aumjobe-

sebs saarCevno garemos, cvlis

kanonebs saTavisod, rom mSve-

nivrad icis es rom gaakeTos

arCevnebs waagebs.

_ anu xelisuflebas arCev-

nebSi wagebis eSinia, am logi-

kiT gamodis, rom igi gayalbeba-

ze wava.

_ rogorc undaT, ise irge-

ben konstitucias, kanonebs sa-

kuTar Targze Wrian. Cven swo-

red es gvinda, rom veravin SeZ-

los konstituciis sakuTar

xuSturze Secvla. Cveni mTava-

ri amocanaa, saqarTveloSi ins-

titutebma imuSaos. nacionale-

bi oficialurad ara, Tumca Si-

da wreebSi amboben _ ra dros

demokratiaa, jer Zlieri sa-

xelmwifo unda gavxdeT, raTa

gare gamowvevebs gavumklavdeT

da Semdeg avaSenoT demokra-

tiao. es marcxisTvis ganwiru-

li Sida moxmarebis Teoriaa. ve-

ranairad ver aaSeneb Zlier sa-

xelmwifos, Tu Zlieri demok-

ratia ar geqna. Tundac ruseTi,

gacilebiT did angariSs gau-

wevs demokratiul saqarTve-

los, vidre avtokratiuls, rac

dRes gvaqvs. bolo 8 welia ga-

mudmebiT erT wreze vtrialebT,

xelisuflebis tyuilebSi

vcxovrobT, es unda damTavrdes.

_ arCevnebis gayalbebis Sem-

TxvevaSi Tu gaqvT raime stra-

tegia SemuSavebuli, Tu arse-

bobs moqmedebis gegma?

_ garwmunebT, xalxi aRar

moiTmens gayalbebul arCevnebs.

vnaxoT mere ra da rogor iqne-

ba. SevecdebiT yvelaferi kano-

nis CarCoebSi movaqcioT.

_ xelisuflebam piar-kkampa-

nia ra xania daiwyo. ivaniSvilis

gunds ki jer partiac ar aqvs.

rodis igegmeba partiis Camoya-

libeba, ratom gviandeba es pro-

cesi?

_ Zalian male. Semaferxebe-

li faqtoria is, rom xelisuf-

leba yoveli fexis nabijze wi-

naaRmdegobas gviwevs. garda ami-

sa, partiis Seqmna dros mo-

iTxovs, struqturebis Camoyal-

ibeba, xalxis optimalurad Se-

moyvana, birTvis Seqmnaa saWiro.

_ ivaniSvilis gundSi poli-

tikuri duRili Senelebulia _

ase amboben Tqveni oponentebi.

ratom ferxdeba gaaqtiurebis

procesi, tempi ratom ar aris

akrefili?

_ erTi raRac aris aq sayu-

radRebo, xelisuflebas yvela

resursi aqvs, piarisTvis hyavs

televiziebi, romelTac aqeT-

iqiT daatarebs da amitom ufro

metad Cans misi gakeTebuli,

vidre Cveni. ver vityodi, TiT-

qos batoni biZina ar aqtiu-

robs, piriqiT, igi Zalian aqti-

urobs, mudmivad xvdeba mosax-

leobas. rasakvirvelia, erT do-

neze aqtiurobis SenarCuneba,

roca raRac miznisken midixar,

SeuZlebelia. xdeba xan zeviT,

xan qveviT svla, situaciis

talRovani ganviTareba. amitom

ar vTvli, rom es moZraoba mi-

nelebulia, magram kidev ufro

gaaqtiurdeba da optimalur

piks arCevnebis win mivaRwevT.

_ ra xdeba regionebSi, xSi-

rad mesmis, rom am kuTxiT vi-

Tareba arcTu saxarbieloa.

_ regionebSi ofisebis nawi-

li gaxsnilia, srulad es pro-

cesi daaxloebiT erT TveSi

damTavrdeba, anu am droSi ukve

yvela regionSi iqneba `qarTuli

ocnebis~ ofisebi.

_ baton biZinas sakmaod bev-

ri momxre hyavs, Tumca raRac

nawilSi kvlav uimedobam dai-

sadgura. TqvenTvis Tu aris cn-

obili rogoria am etapze `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ mimarT sazoga-

doebis ganwyoba, molodinebi?

_ CemTvis cnobilia erTi

ram, sazogadoebaSi dRes iseTi

ganwyobaa, rom aRar undaT es

xelisufleba, xalxi cvlile-

bebs iTxovs. rasakvirvelia,

mTeli sazogadoeba erT azrze

ver iqneba, zogi metad gaaqtiu-

rebas iTxovs, zogic piriqiT,

magram saerTo jamSi es dadebi-

Ti movlenaa. xalxSi agorebu-

lia talRa, romelic arsebul

yofas veRar egueba. xalxs mo-

bezrda piaruli cvlilebebi,

viTom raRac keTdeba, sinamdvi-

leSi ki araferic ar keTdeba.

mosawyenia Tundac imis mosmena,

rom, Turme, saqarTveloSi biz-

nesis dawyeba Zalian advilia. am

dros, bizness ki daiwyeb, magram

mere raSi gamoiyeneb an rodis

daixureba, aravin icis, am mi-

marTulebiT, SeiZleba bolo

adgilzec viyoT.

_ Tavidan, roca `qarTuli

ocnebis~ ofisi gaixsna, Zalian

bevri adamiani moawyda dasare-

gistrireblad, Tumca axla aq-

tivoba moklebulia. riT aris

es ganpirobebuli?

_ aqtivoba SenarCunebulia.

SeiZleba dasawyisSi ufro maRa-

li aqtiuroba iyo, vidre axlaa.

es yovelTvis ase xdeba. Tumca,

ar vici, am etapze ra situacia,

zusti cifri ar maqvs. Tundac,

ase iyos, arc esaa gasakviri.

darwmunebuli var, arCevnebis

moaxloebisas ufro metad gaiz-

rdeba aqtiuroba, vidre es iyo

Tundac dasawyisSi. es procesia,

romelic viTardeba.

_ Tqven diplomati brZan-

debiT da sagareo urTierTo-

bebzec minda gkiTxoT. putinma

arCevnebSi gamarjvebis meore

dResve saqarTvelos xelisuf-

leba daadanaSaula afxazeTisa

da samxreT-ooseTis sakiTxis

mougvareblobaSi. faqtobri-

vad, man ganaCeni gamogvitana.

rogor SeafasebT mis gancxade-

bebs?

_ saqarTveloSi sxva Sedegs

arc aravin eloda. yvelam vico-

diT, ruseTSi iseTi sistemaa

Seqmnili, rom mis saTaveSi ueW-

velad putini movidoda. uaxlo-

esi 12, minimum 6 wlis manZil-

ze saqarTvelos putinTan mou-

wevs urTierTobis damyareba.

aseT pozaSi dgoma _ sanam Cems

teritoriaze okupanti iqnebi,

jarebs ar gaiyvan, ar dagelapa-

rakebi, es marTebuli pozicia

ar aris. ruseTs unda davelapa-

rakoT da paralelur reJimSi,

rasakvirvelia, okupirebuli

teritoriebis datoveba mov-

TxovoT.

putinis gamarjvebis Semdeg

gamoqveynda interviu lilia

SevcovasTan, sadac igi ambobs:

`politikaSi dasarCenad putin-

ma yvelaze mosalodneli gza

airCia. igi daubrunda im tradi-

ciul rusul matricas, romel-

sac militarizacia, mtrebis ga-

remocvaSi myofi ruseTis saxis

Seqmna da sagareo mtrebis Zebna

hqvia. aseT ruseTSi Zalaufle-

ba yovelTvis personificirebu-

li iyo. bunebrivia, rom puti-

nis mier arCeuli gza ruseTs

jadoqrebze nadirobamde, sazo-

gadoebaze kontrolis gamkacre-

bamde miiyvans. putini cdilobs,

ruseTis moazrovne umciresoba

morCil umravlesobas daupi-

rispiros~. Sevcovas azriT, ro-

gorc putini moqmedebs, saakaS-

vilis mimarTac sazogadoebaSi

absoluturad identuri gan-

wyobaa. gana saakaSvilic sazoga-

doebaSi sul mtrebs ar eZebs?

qarTveli mosaxleoba mudmivad

aRniSnavs, rom saakaSvilma sa-

zogadoeba erTmaneTs daupiris-

pira, gaxliCa, swored amaSi

adanaSauleben putinsac.

_ politikosebisgan, eqsper-

tebisgan xSirad msmenia, rom

realurad saakaSvili xelisuf-

lebaSi ruseTis dasmulia da

rom igi putins kidec awyobs. am

logikiT gamodis, rom saakaSvi-

lis mmarTveloba isev SeiZleba

SenarCundes?

_ amaze mokled gipasuxeb _

putins SeiZleba ar uyvars saa-

kaSvili, magram igi xelisufle-

baSi awyobs. Tbilisidan 50 km-

Si maTi samxedro baza dgas.

Cvenc rom viyoT putinis adgi-

las ra kargi partnioria saa-

kaSvilio, vifiqrebT.

_ aqedan gamomdinare, xom ar

arsebobs safrTxe putinma saa-

kaSvilis xelisuflebis Senar-

Cunebaze ìzrunos~?

_ veravin izrunebs amaze ga-

redan, Tu qarTveli xalxi ga-

dawyvets, vin unda iyos qveynis

saTaveSi. tyuilad hgonia qarT-

vel xalxs, rom Cven viRac,

Tundac amerikidan an ruseTidan

xelisufals dagvisvams. merwmu-

neT, ase araa. xelisuflebis sa-

TaveSi iqneba is, visac qarTve-

li xalxi gadawyvets.

_ saakaSvilma parlamentSi

gamosvlisas ganacxada, tyui-

lad elodebiT, rom gudiani de-

idebi an biZiebi wamiyvaneno.

_ mas TviTon qarTveli xal-

xi waiyvans. es monstrebi, mumi-

ebi da warsulidan gadmonaSTi

xalxi, rogorc Tavad gviwo-

debs, waiyvans swored saakaS-

vils. yvela Taoba erTi miznis-

Tvis gaerTiandeba da gauSvebs

saakaSvils. Taobebs Soris xi-

debia aRsadgeni. rogor SeiZle-

ba Taobebs Soris gamavali xi-

debis dawva?! _ 40 wlis adami-

ans mumias eZaxis da skolaSi 15

wlis bavSvebs eubneba, Tqven un-

da SemcvaloTo. anu sanam es 15

wlis bavSvi 30-35 wlis ar gax-

deba, iqamde saakaSvili ar unda

Seicvalos?! swored Taobebs

Soris damwvar xidebs aRadgens

da xelaxla aaSenebs biZina iva-

niSvili, es gardauvalia.

_ rac Seexeba, ruseTTan sa-

vizo reJimis gauqmebas, rogor

uyurebT am gadawyvetilebas da

putinis pasuxs am yvelaferze?

_ Cemi azri aseTia, erTi

mxriv, qveyanas òkupants~ eZaxi,

am dros igi Cveni yvelaze uf-

ro didi safrTxe, gamowvevaa da

meore mxriv, savizo reJims auq-

meb, am movlenis axsna ar SemiZ-

lia. vis uxsni sazRvars òku-

pants~? es yvelaferi sazoga-

doebis Tvalis asaxvevad, maT

mosatyueblad keTdeba. keTilme-

zobluri urTierTobis aRdgena

qveynis nomer pirveli amocanaa.

magram maSin, roca mTeli rigi

safrTxeebia, mouwesrigebelia

urTierTobebi, ar arsebobs dip-

lomatiuri urTierToba da am

dros sazRvars xsni, razea es

gaTvlili? _ ra Tqma unda,

TvalTmaqcobaa da meti araferi.

_ xom ar aris SesaZlebeli,

saakaSvilma arCevnebamde konf-

liqtis provocireba moaxdinos.

_ misgan gamoricxuli ara-

feria. igi ise ebRauWeba posts,

yvelanair nabijs gadadgams xe-

lisuflebis SesanarCuneblad.

Tamar SveliZe

zaza gogsaZe: zaza gogsaZe: 2012 wlis arCevnebs

aucileblad movigebT!

4 saerTo gazeTi #13 (197), 14-20.III, 2012 w.

gvvesaubreba parlamentari

petre mamraZe.

_ batono petre, parlamen-

tSi debatebis dros saakaSvils

fsiqonervuli aSliloba dae-

marTa da darbazidan gaiqca; mi-

uxedavad yvelafrisa, naciona-

lebi momaval arCevnebSi gamarj-

vebaze saubroben, Tqven, ase fiq-

robT?

_ vinc saakaSvils axlos

icnobs (me mas 1992 wlidan

vicnob) yvelam icis, rom is

aris pirovneba, romelsac nervi-

uli daZabulobis dros SeiZle-

ba mas daemarTos nebismieri

fsiqofiziologur reaqcia. me

merideba CamovTvalo is, ra igu-

lisxmeba amaSi. vfiqrob, yvelam

naxa aseve is, Tu ra daemarTa

mas gorSi, rogor ganerTxa is

miwaze SeSinebuli im dros, ro-

ca araferi ar xdeboda arc ca-

Si, arc xmeleTze. mas maSinac

raRac moelanda. aseTive nerviu-

li fsiqofiziologiuri aSli-

loba daemarTa mas anakliaSi

liftSi, roca deni gaiTiSa. ase

rom misma axlo garemocvam kar-

gad icis, ra emarTeba xSirad,

amitom isinic nerviuloben rom

saakaSvils parlamentSi iseTi

ram ar daemarTos, misi gamosv-

la maTTvisac bolo dRe ar aR-

moCndes. ver warmoidgenT, ras

ar kadruloben aseTi gamosvlis

dros. maimunebis galiaSi ar

xdeba is, rac am dros parlamen-

tSi xdeba.

bolo parlamentis debatebi-

sas rac ixileT kidev rbilad

damTavrda yvelaferi. gaqceuls

ki gaekidnen da Zlivs daabrunes.

rbilad damTavrda meTqi, rom

vambob, vgulisxmob imas, rom mas

fsiqofiziologiuri ram SeiZ-

leba mosvloda, rac msoflios

winaSe Segvarcxvenda mTel ers.

dabrunebulma saakaSvilma

roca Tqva, mamas davurekeo, amas

nebismeri fsiqologi gascems pa-

suxs. xolo mobrunebulma, rac

ilaparaka, es iyo reaqcia ukve

fsiqoanalizis, iyo cnobierebis

nakadi, romlis garCeva ar SeiZ-

leba. Tumca, misi moxseneba am

debatebamdec ar iyo aranairad

saintereso. sxva wlebSi ra da-

pirebebic hqonia, faqtobrivad

isini gaimeora. erTaderTi siax-

le iyo is, rom okupanti qvey-

nisaTvis uvizo reJims vqmnio.

is rac gia cagareiSvilma da

jondi baRaTuriam gaaxmaures,

vfiqrob, aravisaTvis axali ar

iyo. yvelaferi dokumenturad

iyo dasabuTebuli, axla is, rom

didZali qoneba gadaeca im sas-

wavlebels, romelsac misi deda

marTavs? es gankargulebebi xom

saakaSvilis mier aris xelmowe-

rili? aseve ar miiRo misma me-

uRlem saCuqrad milioni lari,

sadac misi sawarmo `muza~ fi-

gurirebs?

piradad saakaSvilis dekla-

raciaSi ar aris miTiTebuli mi-

si realuri qoneba, rac ki aris,

is ukve sisxlis samarTlis da-

naSaulia, radganac prezidento-

bis dros misi qoneba erTi asad

gazrdilia _ xolo wyaro miTi-

Tebuli ar aris. ar aris es da-

naSauli? aba, sxva vinmem gabe-

dos da deklaraciaSi SecdomiT

Caweros rame, erT ambavs atexen!

roca masTan Sexvedrebze na-

cionalebi midian da xalxi sa-

bargulebiT da avtousebiT mih-

yavT Sexvedrebze, amiT aCveneben,

rom miSa, marto ara xar,

stresSi nu Cavardebi. is me ma-

gonebs saaxovis gmirs kinofil-

midan `kavkasieli tye qali~. sa-

axovs hqonda problema an axal-

gazrda qali unda moeyvana co-

lad an is waiyvana prokuratu-

raSi. miSac asea, an unda moigos

arCevnebi Tavis 5-6 Tanamoazre

megobar milionerTan erTad,

romelnic marTaven qveyanas, an

maT yvelas erTad waiyvanen pro-

kuraturaSi! es ki maT ar un-

daT, rogorc sikvdili. saakaS-

vilis xelSi saqarTvelo erTi

kacis `duqnad~ aris qceuli!

dRes mas ukve ver warmoud-

genia, rom SeiZleba arsebobdes

odesme iseTi dro, roca is pir-

veli kaci ar iqneba absolutu-

ri uflebebiT. es fiqric ki

fsiqozSi agdebs mas. SesaZleb-

lobebis SezRudvis ga-

fiqrebac ki angrevs mis

fsiqikas.

_ putini dabrunda

ruseTis prezidentad,

rogor imoqmedebs es

yvelaferi qarTul po-

litikaze, garda amisa,

man ganacxada, rom is sa-

akaSvilma `gadaagdo~,

ras niSnavda es?

putini dabrunda im

postze, romelic rea-

lurad arc miutovebia

arasodes. rac Seexeba

mis `gadagdebas~, aWaris

saqmes ukavSirdeba yove-

live. kerZod, man Tqva,

rom saakaSvili Segvpirda, da

gvTxova Tu Cven abaSiZes aqedan

waviyvandiT, is Tavs daanebebda

mis devnas, da problemebi ar iq-

neboda. amitomac is maTi Txov-

niT waviyvaneT, axla ki acxade-

ben, rom am adamianis mimarT sis-

xlis samarTlis saqme aris aR-

Zruli. Cven ra vqnaT, _ Tqva pu-

tinma, Cven Cvens sityvas ver da-

varRvevT; meore `gadagdebis~

sakiTxi iyo is, samxedro bazebi

rom aqedan wavidoda, unda Seq-

mniliyo aq antiteroristuli

centri. arc es ar Seiqmna. sxva

saqmea kidev is, kargi iyo es Tu

ara. me rogorc vici, aSS- amis

winaaRmdegi ar iyo.

_ sad unda Seqmniliyo es

antiteroristuli centri?

_ aWaraSi, sxvaTaSoris buSs

undoda am centris Camoyalibe-

baSi Cveni daxmareba.

ase rom, es yvelaferi pu-

tinma exla gaixsena, isic cno-

bilia, rom is aris iseTi xasi-

aTis pirovneba, Tu vinmem mo-

atyua an `gadaagdo~ _ rogorc

am SemTxvevaSi, is aseT adamian-

Tan wyvets urTierTobas, Tu

uaresi ara!

me maxsovs, saakaSvilis avan-

tiura 2004 wlis 19 agvisto-

sac, cxinvalis regionSi, ro-

melsac SemdgomSi Tavad katas-

trofa uwoda. es iyo sisxlis-

Rvra da Semdeg qarTuli Seia-

raRebuli Zalebis upirobo ga-

moyvana. mxolod am upirobo

gayvanam SeaCera 38 armiis mar-

SiT msvleloba rokis gvirabi-

saken, meore mxridan. me maSin

miTxra erTma dasavlelma poli-

tologma, rom putini aris Ce-

kisti da viciT movida is poli-

tikaSi, xolo Tqveni preziden-

ti aris fsiqopaTi, romelsac

qveynis marTva ar SeuZlia, amis

Semdeg ki naxeT, putini gamoiye-

nebs saakaSvils yvelgan da yve-

laferSi ise, rogorc tuale-

tis qaRaldso! _ es, marTlac,

ase moxda. saakaSvil-putinis

tandemi aris Zalian mZime Cveni

qveynisaTvis. putins sWirdeba

mtris xati xalxis mobilizaci-

isaTvis da vfiqrob, qarTvelma

xalxma, unda SeaCeros es pro-

cesi demokratiulad samarTli-

anad da kanonierad. miuxedavad

imisa, rom Cveni prezidentisT-

vis da misi fsiqikisaTvis Seu-

Tavsebadia is, rom ar iyos pir-

veli piri absoluturi uflebe-

biT.

dRevandeli xelisuflebi-

saTvis SeuTavsebelia Tanamdebo-

bebidan wasvla _ es Tqva lin-

koln miCelma, is aris cnobili

mecnieri, man dawera wigni `var-

debis revoluciaze~, _ avtori

miuTiTebs dRevandel situacia-

ze da ambobs _ `dRes saqarTve-

loSi problema saarCevno ko-

deqsi ki ar aris, aramed prob-

lemaa is, rom arsebuli xeli-

sufleba nacionaluri moZrao-

bis saxiT, ar aris mzad imisaT-

vis, rom dauSvas iseTi arCevne-

bi, sadac SeiZleba maT ver gai-

marjvon~ _ vfiqrob, am fraza-

Si yvelaferia Cateuli.

_ oqtomberSi, vTqvaT da

ivaniSvilis gundma gaimarjvos,

mere?

_ SeiZleba opoziciam gai-

marjvos, magram eseni mainc ga-

yalbebul cifrs gamoacxadeben

TavianT sasargeblod. amas isini

policiisa da uSiSroebis dax-

marebiT miaRweven. ukve acxade-

ben, rom 65 procents aiReben

arCevnebSi. gaiyvanen aseve qris-

tian-demokratebs, leiboris-

tebs da umciresi procentiT

ivaniSvils, rac realurad vera-

fers Secvlis.

swored aq unda iyos samoqa-

laqo sazogadoebis aqtivoba au-

cilebeli, raTa daicvan Tavian-

Ti xmebi da amxilon gayalbeba.

yvelaferi unda moxdes mSvido-

bianad da kanonierad.

_ dRes Tamamad acxadeben,

rom unda moxdes saarCevno Tan-

xebis kanonieri xarjva, gamWvir-

valed ratom adre ar iyo es

Tanxebi gamWvirvale. 8 welia

isini qveynis saTaveSi arian,

marto biZina ivaniSvilis Tanxe-

bi unda iyos gamWvirvale?

_ saerTaSoriso organizaci-

ebi amaSi CarTulebi arian, vfiq-

rob, seriozuli zewola iqneba

maTi mxridan imisTvis, rom yve-

laferi iqnas gamWvirvale. rac

Seexeba biZina ivaniSvils, simbo-

luria is, rom mas! kacs romel-

mac milionobiT Tanxebi, daxar-

ja Tavis samSoblosaTvis daupi-

rispirdnen is adamianebi vinc am

samSoblos xazinidan moipares

miliardebi!

_ daiZabeba Tu ara erTier-

Toba ruseTTan axlo momavalSi?

_ vfiqrob, ara, dasavleli

diplomatebic aRniSnaven _ ru-

sebi amboben, rom saakaSvili ma-

nipulirebulia Cvens mier, xo-

lo mis garemocvasTan proble-

mebi ar gvaqvs es idilia kide-

vac gagrZeldeba, magram samwu-

xaroa, rom Cveni erovnuli in-

teresebis xarjze. swored am

`idiliis~ fonze davkargeT ga-

nusazRvreli droiT afxazeTi,

oseTi, samaCablo, kodori.

dRevandel situaciaSi me

upirobod vuWer mxars biZina

ivaniSvils, romelic SeZlebs

imas, rom samoqalaqo sazogadoe-

bam gaimarjvos da daamarcxos ne-

bismieri gayalbebuli arCevnebi.

eTer kasreliSvili

saakaSvilis momxreebi, rogorc maimuns abrunebengaliaSi, ise abrundebden gaqceul prezidents sxdomaTa darbazSi

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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5saerTo gazeTi#13 (197), 14-20.III, 2012 w.

gasul kviras, politikuri

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~

lideri biZina ivaniSvili `sa-

xalxo krebisa~ da `qarTuli

akademiis~ wevrebs Sexvda. ro-

gorc sainformacio gamoSvebeb-

ma gvauwyes _ aRniSnul Sexved-

raze biZina ivaniSvili nino

burjanaZisadmi aSkara kritikiT

gamovida da burjanaZis Suamav-

lebisTvis kadrs miRmac bevri

ram uTqvams.

modiT, daviwyoT Tavidan da

gavyveT faqtebs Tu ratom ar

unda baton ivaniSvils nino

burjanaZesTan politikuri ur-

TierToba?

ratom moxda `qarTuli aka-

demiis~ da `saxalxo krebis~

erToblivi viziti ivaniSvilTan

gaugebaria, Tumca varaudis do-

neze SeiZleba iTqvas, rom yve-

laferi `respublikelma~ Tina

xidaSelma `gaaCaliCa~ da ise

warmoaCina, rom `krebac~ da à-

kademiac~ biZina ivaniSvilTan

daaxloebas erToblivad eltvi-

ano!

Tumca am Sexvedris mTavari

gansjis Tema rom marTlac nino

burjanaZe iyo, srulebiTac ar

gaxldaT SemTxveviTi da mogax-

senebT ratomac:

rogorc cnobilia, qarTul

e.w. opozicias gasul wlebSi,

`jojoxeTs erTi muguzali ak-

ldao~ _ principiT nino bur-

janaZec daemata da samarTlia-

nobisTvis unda iTqvas, rom q-ni

anzorovna am mxriv, arc sxvaze

meti iyo da arc sxvaze nakle-

bi! metic, xelisuflebidan wa-

mosvlis Semdeg, igive xelisuf-

lebis aqtiuri piaris meSveo-

biT `radikaluri opozicione-

ris~ saxelic daimkvidra~ da

ise iqceoda, TiTqos saqarTve-

lo mxolod mis mzes ificebda

da mxolod mis imedad iyo dar-

Cenili! xolo danarCenebi ki _

miSasTan miyidebulad daasaxe-

la, imitom rom es ambavi `far-

dis ukan mdgomma kacma~ _ pira-

dad uambo!

arada, yvelas gvaxsovs mi-

tingze misi pirveli gamosvlis

Semdeg rogori stvena atexa

xalxma da isic gvaxsovs, Cveu-

li utifrobiT, burjanaZis

qalma yelmoRerebiT rom dagv-

moZRvra _ me ki ar damistvines,

aramed irakli alasania iyo ga-

Rizianebuli xalxis adresatio!

nino burjanaZis òpoziciu-

ri~ moRvaweoba, rom sisxlisRv-

ris fonze warimarTeboda _ es

aramarto me, aramed bevrma opo-

ziciurad ganwyobilma Jurnalis-

tma icoda, magram imas veravin

warmoidgenda, rom am SemTxveva-

Sic ki nino miSas saqmes gaakeTeb-

da da mis xelisuflebaSi yofnas,

agrerigad gaaxangrZlivebda!

ratom unda sZul-des nino burjanaZessaakaSvili? nuTu mxo-lod imitom, rom ori-ves, burjanaZes da saa-

kaSvilsac, am qveynisprezidentoba surTda mizani nebismierisaSualebiT misaRwe-via?

iqneb misi siZulvi-lis mizezi is aris,rom miSa badri biwa-Zis axlo naTesavia dagenerali biwaZe dResSvilTan, anzorikos-Tan erTad usamarT-lod aris `dapatimre-buli~, sxva danarCen40-mde momitingesTanerTad?

iqneb, ninos miSasadmi si-

Zulvili iqidanac aris aRmoce-

nebuli, rom orives mxolod

sakuTari `me~-s aRzevebaze aqvT

fiqrebi mimarTuli da qveyana,

romelsac 6 weli erToblivad

xravdnen, aseve erToblivad fe-

xebze hkidiaT?

biZina ivaniSvilTan Sexved-

raze qalbatonma nona gafrin-

daSvilma brZana: `26 maisis aq-

ciebi, am gziT samarTliani ar-

Cevnebis Catarebis miRweva iyo,

Torem Cvengan xelisuflebaSi

mosvlas aravin apirebda da

dResac aravin apirebs~-o! (?)

àrCevnebamde didi dro iyo

qalbatono nona~ _ Seawyvetina

sityva biZina ivaniSvilma...

`nebismieri qmedeba,vinc 26 maiss iq iyo, memiviCnev rom aris gmi-roba Tqveni da yvelaim adamianis mxridan,

vinc iq iyaviT _ gardapolitikosebisa, ro-melTac sxvanairi val-debulebebi aqvT! _ da-

amata man.

anu batonma biZinam pativi

miago yvela momitinges, yvela

dapatimrebuls, yvela gardacv-

lils, magram nino burjanaZis

persona-pativmiugebeli qmedebis

identuri iyo da amdenad, ra

igulisxma ivaniSvilma, Zneli

amosacnobi ar iyo!

biZina ivaniSvilma albaT

isic, icis rom 2008 wlis ar-

Cevnebi gayalbda da maSindelma

ìo~ prezidentma nino burjana-

Zem am gayalbebaze `Tvali daxu-

Wa~! metic, Tavidanve miuloca

saakaSvils `demokratiulad Ca-

tarebul~ arCevnebSi `gamarjve-

ba~ da parlamentis Tavmjdoma-

ris skamic, ukve meramdened Ta-

vadac ukanonod miiTvisa!

es rom marTlac aseiyo, Tavad nino burja-naZemac aRiara jerrusul presasTan, xo-lo mogvianebiT qar-Tul mediasac `gagven-do~ da amayad Tqva_`gayalbda, aba ra?~-o.dalocvilo! iuris-tobas ki ibraleb, mag-ram iurisprudenciaSigayalbebuli arCevne-bic da gayalbebulisabuTebic rom kano-niT isjeba, dagaviwy-da? anda, Tuki sindis-

Tan camde marTalixar, (rogorc ambobxolme) ratom 2008wlis ianvarSive aratexe xmauri gayalbe-buli arCevnebis Sesa-xeb da ratom ar dato-ve dakavebuli Tanamde-boba Tundac e.w. prezi-dentis inauguraciam-de?

`me, me, me~-o, rom yviri

dResac, dagaviwyda miSa saakaS-

vilis danaSaulebrivi xrovis,

saxelmwifo gadatrialebis da

imave saxelmwifos ufskrulSi

gadamCexTa pirvel xuTeulSi

Senc rom Sedixar?

Cven ki viciT, magrammesiamovna biZina iva-niSvilis nafiqraliimis Sesaxebac, rom:`konkretul situacia-Si swori priorite-

tis arCeva aris saWi-ro da ar unda darCepatara bavSviviT~,

romelic sul sakuTar `me~-

zea koncentrirebuli da mxo-

lod sakuTari personis gandi-

debazea orientirebuli! metic,

Zalian momewona batoni ivaniS-

vilis konkretika `gundurobas-

Tan~ dakavSirebiT da fraza:

`Tu Seni monawileobiTki ar exmarebi, azianeb!~

kerZod, batonma biZinam,

qalbaton ninos iribad Tu pir-

dapir SeuTvala, rom gamiznu-

lad ki ar unda SeaxeTqos mo-

mitingeebi spec.razmebs, aramed,

saerTo saqmeSi, Tu saWiro gax-

da siamayec unda daTrgunos da

sxvisi azris Tu argumentebis

mosmenac iswavloso! metic, ba-

tonma biZinam dasZina, rom:

`politikosma iseTi md-gomareoba unda airCio,rom saerTo saqmes Tuver miexmarebi, ar daazia-no mainc!~ _ raSic ver See-

davebi!

axla, TviTon biZina ivaniS-

vilis gundic rom ver brwyi-

navs TvalismomWreli sikaSka-

SiT esec faqtia, magram Tuki es

adamiani sxva politikosebis am-

biciebsac iseve akvirdeba, ro-

gorc es burjanaZis SemTxvevaSi

moxda, unda vivaraudoT, rom

`gansakuTrebulad ambiciuri

politikosebis adgili arc mis

gundSi iqneba male am mxriv

`gamorCeulebi~ vinc arian, mis

gundSi Cvenze ukeT, albaT, Ta-

vad moexseneba.

ise ki, samarTlia-noba moiTxovs, rom vi-kiTxo: _ ratom undanino burjanaZes agre-rigad `qarTul ocne-baSi~ ganavardeba? gana

TviTon burjanaZem aricis, rom ambiciuro-bis TvalsazrisiT Ti-na xidaSeli masze nak-lebi ar aris? gana, aricis, rom irakli ala-sania mis gverdiT dad-gomas aRar ikadrebs?gana ar icis, rom è-rovnul forums~ Zve-leburad veRar gaacu-rebs da Tavis kapri-zebs veRar atarebs?

maS, ra unda iq, sadac ver

itanen, rogorc politikoss?

da masTan nebismier `saerTo

saqmeSi~ aravin dadgeba? metad

sagulisxmo da gansacvifrebu-

lia isic, rom

6 marts iva-niSvilTan Sex-vedris Semdeg,ukve 7 marts qal-batoni burjana-Ze, miuxedavad aS-kara damcirebi-sa, egreve qalba-ton nona gafrin-daSvils agzav-nis telekompa-nia `kavkasiaSi~da aJRerebinebs,rom: `qalbatoninino uars ambobssakuTar ambici-ebze da qveyni-

saTvis sasikeTo pro-cesSi, rogorc rigiTijariskaci, ise CaerT-vebao!~

anu, qalbatonma nonam, ambi-

ciurobiT cnobili burjanaZis

survili _ iyos `qarTuli oc-

nebis~ koaliciaSi _ aseve eTe-

ris meSveobiT auwya biZina iva-

niSvils da axla sazogadoebam

Tavad gansajos, ramdenad ikad-

rebs nina anzorovna rigiT ja-

riskacobas da Tanac uangarod?

Tumca, ratom uangarod? ga-

na ar gvaxsovs cnobili gamoT-

qma àr varga is jariskaci, ro-

melic generlobaze ar ocnebob-

so!?~ Tanac, daakvirdiT _àmbi-

ciurobis ukan waReba~-ze Tavad

ki ar mibrZanda aqubardias

studiaSi, Tavad ki ar warmoT-

qva es sityvebi, aramed nona

gafrindaSvils àTqmevina saTq-

meli da aba, gana aseTi adamiani

ikadrebs ubralo, `rigiTi ja-

riskacis~ ampluaSi gaagrZelos

Tavisi politikanuri moRvaweo-

ba?

irine gogosaSvili

`bela Cao~, `bela Cao~, anu biZinaivaniSvilis gzavnili nino burjanaZes


`̀ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTiiss~~ ssttuummaarriiaa

`̀qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbiiss~~ rreeggiioonnaa-

lluurrii ssaammssaaxxuurriiss xxeellmmZZRRvvaannee-

llii bbaattoonnii gela xvedeli-Ze..

__ bbaattoonnoo ggeellaa,, iiqqnneebb ggvvii-

TTxxrraaTT TTqqvveennss SSeessaaxxeebb oorriioodd

ssiittyyvvaa......

_ warmoSobiT zestafonis

raionidan var. mere mamaCemi aq-

eT wamovida da TbilisSi da-

vamTavre 65-e skola. zoovete-

rinalur institutSi vswavl-

obdi, viyavi jarSic, diplomi,

omi, 1993 weli da ... _ 2004

wlamde vmuSaobdi uSiSroebis

saministroSi. mokled rom vT-

qva, imdeni Tanamdeboba gamovi-

are da gamovicvale, Cemi xnis

kacisTvis, iSviaTia. sasjelaR-

srulebaSic ki `movaxerxe~ mu-

Saoba...

__ uuSSiiSSrrooeebbaaSSii mmuuSSaaoobbddiiTT??

aamm iinntteerrvviiuuss ggaammooqqvveeyynneebbiiss SSeemm-

ddeegg rroomm ggaaaaxxsseennddeebbiiTT ddaa ddaa-

iiwwyyeebbaa `̀ggaaddaaZZaaxxiilleebbii~~ __ rroo-

ggoorr iiqqnneebbaa eess aammbbaavvii......

_ arauSavs, araferi mike-

Tebia iseTi, rom momduravi

myavdes. ramdenime Tve vimuSave

da wamovedi. saqme imaSi gaxl-

daT, rom iseTi xalxi iyo,

profesionalurad ki ara, ada-

mianurad ver gaagebinebdi ve-

ravis verafers. rom veubnebo-

di, ra da rogor unda gakeTe-

buliyo, ar esmodaT _ ucodi-

nar kacs rom elaparakebi, hgo-

nia, atyueb, an raRac maxes

ugeb.

__ ddaavvaazzuussttooTT,, ee..ii `̀vvaarrddee-

bbiiss rreevvoolluucciiiiss~~ SSeemmddeeggaacc mmss-

aaxxuurroobbddiiTT uuSSiiSSrrooeebbaaSSii??

_ aSS-Si viyavi mivlinebiT,

sami-oTxi Tve vimsaxure da wa-

movedi. xom geubnebiT, azri ar

hqonda raimes Tqmas, gasagebi

iyo, rom maTTan ver vimuSaveb-

di, veranair saerTos ver ga-

movnaxavdi vercerTi kuTxiT _

iseTi giJuri kursi hqondaT,

sad midiodnen da sadac mivid-

nen, saxezea. roca veravis age-

bineb, rom saqmis keTebazea sa-

ubari da ara efeqtebze, meore

dRes vis ra daemarTeba im è-

feqtebidan~ gamomdinare da

ramdeni minusebi mohyveba amas,

sxva gza ar rCeba, _ adamianeb-

Tan gaqvs urTierToba, robo-

tebTan xom ara!...

__ iiqqiiddaann ddaa ddRReemmddee ssaadd

iiyyaavviiTT,, aarrssaadd ggaammooCCeenniillxxaarrTT......

_ am xnis manZilze viyavi

erT-erT sadistribucio kompa-

niaSi usafrTxoebis kuTxiT

(ojaxi myavs, Svilebi, (ori

gogona) swavla undaT,

rCena undaT). Semdeg

urTierToba Camoyalib-

da èrovnul forum-

Tan~, gulma im kargi

xalxisken gamiwia, xal-

xis keTildReobasa da

qveynis gadarCenaze rom fiq-

robdnen, regionaluri mowyo-

bis sakiTxebSi vexmarebodi,

rac SemeZlo. Semdeg `rvianebi~

da èqvsianebi~ rom daiwyo,

CavTvale, rom gverdze unda

gavweuliyavi da ojaxisTvis

dameTmo is yuradReba, rac da-

vakeli... mere am axali realo-

bidan gamomdinare, CavTvale,

rom Tu vinmes gamovadgebodi

Cemi codniTa da gamocdile-

biT, saqme mekeTebina.

__ rrooggoorr CCaavvTTvvaa-

llooTT,, mmaaiinncc `̀eerroovvnnuullii

ffoorruummiiddaann~~ xxaarrTT wwaarr-

mmooddggeenniillii??

_ ara, me davwere

gancxadeba da wamovedi

`forumidan~. Cemi ax-

loblebi trialebdnen

aq da me vuTxari risi

gakeTebac SemeZlo, isi-

nic dainteresdnen _

Tu SegiZlia, gaakeTeo

da Camoyalibda saerTo

samuSao urTierToba.

amis Semdeg Sexvedrac

iyo baton biZinasTan da

mesame kviraa, vmuSaob

rac SemiZlia, vcdilob,

kargad gavakeTo.

__ ddaa rraass aakkeeTTeebbTT..

_ partiul mSeneblobas,

aseve regionalur da qalaqis

samsaxurebis mSeneblobas vxe-

lmZRvanelob.

__ TTqqvveenn aammbboobbTT,, nneell-nneellaaoo,,

eess TTqqvveennii `̀nneell-nneellaa~~ ZZaalliiaann

`̀ggvviiaann-ggvviiaann~~ xxoomm aarr ggaammooddiiss??

_ ar gamodis `gvian-gvian~,

_ nela, magram kargad da Cqa-

ra!... es aris batoni biZinas

partiis mSeneblobis principi,

_ koaliciasTan nu gavaigivebT.

amave dros warmomadgeneli

var im sainiciativo jgufis,

romelic SemdgomSi Camoyalib-

deba, vTqvaT, partiad da aseve

koaliciaSi.

iseT forsirebul reJimSi

midis muSaoba, rom albaT, ma-

rtis bolomde regionebSi da-

srulebuli iqneba adgilobri-

vi jgufebis mobilizeba...

__ TTqqvveenn xxoomm iicciiTT,, rroomm rree-

ggiioonneebbSSii aaddggiillzzee jjgguuffeebbiiss

mmoobbiilliizzeebbaa ddiiddss aarraaffeerrss wwyy-

vveettss iinnffoorrmmaacciiuull vvaakkuuuummSSii

mmyyooffii iimmaavvee rreeggiioonniiss mmaassSSttaa-

bbiiTT......

_ eTerTan dakavSirebiT,

simarTle giTxraT, imdenad

daZabul reJimSi vmuSaobT, ver

getyviT, magram iqac profesi-

onalTa iseTi jgufia da ise-

Ti mondomebulebi arian, cdi-

loben, maqsimalurad swrafad

moxerxdes xalxisTvis xmis

miwvdena... maqsimaluri xelis-

SeSlis pirobebSi gviwevs mu-

Saoba, _ mogexsenebaT, xelSek-

rulebadadebul ofisebze

aiZuleben gamqiraveblebs ua-

ris Tqmas. xelSekrulebis da-

debisas xom aris garkveuli

valdebulebebi, vTqvaT, piris

sagamtexlo, ormagad azarale-

ben am adamianebs, arafers eri-

debian. Cven maqsimalurad

vcdilobT am dazaralebul

adamianebs gverdze davudgeT,

magram TviT faqtze maqvs sau-

bari.

__ iimm ee..ww aarraaqqaarrTTuull rreeggiioo-

nneebbSSii rraa mmddggoommaarreeoobbaaaa,, ssaaddaacc

yyvveellaa mmTTaavvrroobbiiss ggaarraannttiirreebbuu-

llii xxmmeebbii wwiinnddaawwiinn ddaaTTvvlliilliiaa??

_ magaliTad, marneulSi,

gadavwyviteT, rom Cveni warmo-

madgeneli yofiliyo qalbato-

ni lia TuSuri, filologi, 21

qarTuli da 4 araqarTuli

wignis (im regionis erovnuli

umciresobis bavSvebisTvis) av-

tori, romelic Cavida iq da

rva weli skolis direqtori

iyo, anu imis Tqma minda, rom

adgilobrivi mosaxleobisTvis

avtoritetia, pativs scemen da

endobian...

__ mmuusslliimmaannuurrii mmoossaaxxlleeoobbaa

aarr aarriiss aaggrreessiiuullaadd aaqqttiiuurrii,,

ssaammccxxee-jjaavvaaxxeeTTzzee rraass iittyyvviiTT,,

iiqq oorrmmaaggaadd mmZZiimmee ssiittuuaa-

cciiaaaa......

_ samwuxarod, simar-

Tles ambobT, Zalian

mZime situaciaa samcxe-

javaxeTSi, _ mogexsene-

baT, vin aris im kuTxi-

dan da es faqtori Tama-

Sobs Zalze mniSvnelo-

van rols, ramdenjerac

SeirCa ofisi axalqa-

laqSi, axalcixeSi, as-

pinZaSi da a. S. naxevar

saaTSi uars aTqmevinebd-

nen gamqiravebels, al-

baT, `laivSi~ usmenen,

sxvagvarad warmoudgene-

lia...

__ ssaaiinntteerreessooaa,, aamm xxee-

lloovvnnuurraadd SSeeqqmmnniillii ddaabbrrkkoollee-

bbeebbiiss ddaaffiiqqssiirreebbaa TTuu xxddeebbaa

ssaaddmmee,, vvgguulliissxxmmoobb iimm oorrggaannii-

zzaacciieebbss,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii mmiimmddii-

nnaarree uukkaannoonnoobbeebbzzee mmuuddmmiivvaadd

`̀ddaakkvviirrvveebbeebbss~~ rroomm aawwaarrmmooeebbeenn

ddaa `̀aaRRSSffooTTeebbaass~~ ddaa `̀SSeeSSffooTTee-

bbaass~~ rroomm ggaammooTTqqvvaammeenn,, aarraassaamm-

TTaavvrroobboo oorrggaanniizzaacciieebbss aarr

vvgguulliissxxmmoobb..

_ ra Tqma unda, da sxvaTa-

Soris, Zalian yuradRebiT ec-

nobian da udgebian am faqtebs

saelCoebi...

__ rreeggiioonneebbss rroomm aarr ggaavvcc-

ddeeTT,, vvrrcceellddeebbaa iinnffoorrmmaacciiaa,,

rroomm kkooaalliicciiaaSSii SSeemmaavvaallii ppaarr-

ttiieebbii,, bbaattoonnii iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss ssaa-

xxeelliiTT,, rreeggiioonneebbiiss mmoossaaxxlleeoo-

bbiiss xxaarrjjzzee ssaakkuuTTaarr ppaarrttiieebbss

aavvsseebbeenn.. eess TTuu mmaarrTTllaacc aasseeaa,,

ssaaqqmmee ssaaqqmmeezzee rroomm mmiiddggeebbaa,, bbaa-

ttoonnii bbiiZZiinnaa uukkaann `̀ggaammooiiTTxxoovvss~~

SSeeccddoommaaSSii SSeeyyvvaanniill xxaallxxss TTuu

rraa vviiffiiqqrrooTT??

_ aravis aravin ar eyoleba

`gamosaTxovi~, rodesac gaixs-

neba ofisi, iq, koaliciaSi Se-

mavali partiebis garda Cveni,

jerjerobiT dauregistrirebe-

li partiis warmomadgenelic

iqneba, mimsvlel adamians eqne-

ba Tavisufali arCevani.

__ rraaggiinndd TTaavvaauuRReebbllaadd mmuu-

SSaaoobbddeeTT,, 2244- ssaaaaTTiiaann rreeJJiimmSSii

xxoomm vveerr iiqqnneebbiiTT,, mmaarrTTllaacc mmaa-

iissSSii rroomm CCaattaarrddeess aarrCCeevvnneebbii??

_ Cemi subieqturi azria,

rom maisSi ar Catardeba, mag-

ram rom Catardes, amitom vmu-

SaobT SuaRamemde marTla Ta-

vauReblad.

__ ppoolliittiikkuurrii ppllaattffoorrmmaa

rraa iiqqnneebbaa,, `̀qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbaa~~

__ ddeemmookkrraattiiuullii ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo??

_ platformis monaxazze

vmuSaobT da ramdenime dReSi

Camoyalibebuli iqneba. winas-

war ar minda Tqma, SeiZleba

raRac cvlileba moxdes da

araswori informacia gamova.

is molodini, rac xalxs aqvs,

igive kiTxvebi, rac Tqven gad-

momeciT, xalxis ganwyoba, mo-

lodini da interesi, ra da

rogor iqneba, amas aucileb-

lad gavamJRavnebT umokles

droSi. Cven vTvliT, rom xal-

xma unda icodes, rasTan aqvs

saqme, ra keTdeba, rogor keT-

deba da ratom keTdeba.

Cveni Seyovneba imiTaa gan-

pirobebuli, rom `nacionalu-

ri moZraobisgan~ gansxvavebiT,

vcdilobT, araferi gamogvepa-

ros iseTi, rac Semdeg xalxs

daazaralebs, an elementaru-

lad, mosaxleobisTvis gaugeba-

ri iqneba.

maia WeliZe

gela xvedeliZe: gela xvedeliZe: biZina ivaniSvilis

politikuri partia uaxloesxanebSi dafuZndeba

sagarejoSi `̀qarTuli oocnebis~ 13 mmxardamWeri aadvokatebis

gareSe ddakiTxeskontrolis palatis TanamSrom-

lebma sagarejoSi „qarTuli ocnebis“

13 mxardamWeri advokatebis gareSe

dakiTxes, _ iuwyeba kaxeTis sainfor-

macio centri respublikuri partiis

sagarejos organizaciis xelmZRvanel

gela kevliSvilze dayrdnobiT.

„dakiTxva gamgeobis SenobaSi, meo-

re sarTulze dilis 11:00 saaTidan

Ramis 10:00 saaTamde gagrZelda. ko-

ridorSi yofnasac ki miSlidnen, aq

nu dgaxaro. 20 policieli iyo mobi-

lizebuli. advokatebi ar SeuSves. SekiTxvebi iyo Zalian uxerxu-

li kontrolis palatisTvis. ekiTxebodnen, ratom xar partiaSi,

rodis mixvedi, visi meSveobiT, Tu rame mouciaT an Segpirdnen da

kidev sxva bevri sisulele. zewolac iyo, Cvenebas Tu ar mogv-

cemTo, daWeriT emuqrebodnen. mimarTavdnen, „biWo, mipasuxe, Torem

prokuraturaSi geqneba saqme; Zmao, egre ar aris, wagaTrev“ da ase-

Tebi“, - ganacxada gela kevliSvilma.

azerbaijani aafxazeTSi CCatarebul e.w. ssaparlamento aarCevnebis legitimurobas aar aaRiarebs

azerbaijani afxazeTSi Catarebul e.w. saparla-

mento arCevnebis legitimurobas ar aRiarebs.

azerbaijanis sagareo uwyebam Sesabamisi

gancxadeba dRes gaavrcela.

gancxadebis teqstis mixedviT, ofi-

cialuri baqo saqarTvelos suverenitet-

sa da teritoriul mTlianobas mxars

uWers da imedovnebs, rom konfliqti mSvidobiani

molaparakebis gziT mogvardeba.

`medianiusi~


ppaarrllaammeennttiiss ssxxddoommaazzee,, llaammiiss

mmTTeellii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss TTvvaallwwiinn,, ssaa-

aakkaaSSvviillmmaa TTaavviissii CCiinnoovvnniikkeebbiiss kkoo-

rruummppiirreebbuulloobbiiss ddaammaaddaassttuurreebbee-

llii ffoottooeebbii iissee mmooiissrroollaa,, eerr-

TTxxeellaacc aarr uukkiiTTxxaavvss CCeemmii „„ppaattiioo-

ssaannii ddaa ggaaRRlleettiillii““ mmiinniissttrreebbii

aassee xxeellmmoommWWiirrnneedd rroomm ccxxoovvrroobbeenn,,

aamm ddrrooss mmssggaavvss mmddiiddrruull ssaassaaxx-

lleeeebbss rroommeellii „„vvaauuCCeerrddaarriiggeebbuu-

llii““ mmooqqaallaaqqeeeebbii iiSSeenneebbeennoo....aarraaddaa,,

aarr ggaammiikkvviirrddeebbooddaa aasseecc rroomm eeTTqq-

vvaa.. ssiinnaammddvviilleeSSii ssaadd ccxxoovvrroobbeenn

ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss mmiinniissttrreebbii ddaa CCiinnoovv-

nniikkeebbii,, aammiiss ggaassaarrkkvveevvaadd mmooZZrraaoobbaa

„„aarraa““-ss xxeellmmZZRRvvaanneell levan Ci-taZes vveessaauubbrree,, rroommeelliicc ddiiddii

xxaanniiaa mmooZZrraaoobbiiss wweevvrreebbTTaann eerrTTaadd

aamm TTeemmaazzee mmuuSSaaoobbss ddaa 22001111 wweellss

mmaaRRaallCCiinnoossnneebbiiss ssaaxxlleebbiiss ffoottoo-

eebbiiss ggaammooffeennaacc kkii mmooaawwyyvveess..

- levan, am informaciis mopo-

vebas rogor an ra formebiT

axerxebT?

- am informaciis mopoveba da

gadamowmeba Cveni ZalebiT xdeba.

moZraoba „ara“ Sedgeba Zalian

bevri adamianisagan, romlebic

faqtobrivad ar Canan „ara“-Si.

bevri mxardamWeri gvyavs, romle-

bic sxvadasxva sakiTxebTan dakav-

SirebiT informacias gvawvdian.

amis Semdeg Cven am informacias

vamuSavebT, vaxmovanebT da vax-

denT reagirebas. rac Seexeba Ci-

novnikebis saxlebs, yvela Cvens

mier napovni saxlebis mflobele-

bis vinaobas, TiTqmis yvela Sem-

TxvevaSi gvidasturebdnen iq mo-

muSave adamianebi, muSebi, dacvis

wevrebi an mezoblebi. parlament-

Si gamotanili fotoebidan erT-

erTi, rogorc iciT, vano mera-

biSvilis saxli iyo.

merabiSvils ireTu-banSi aqvs ori tyupisaxli, romlebic abso-luturad yvelafriTerTmaneTs hgavs da er-Ti santimetriTac araris cdomileba. mera-biSvilis kidev erTisaxli Cven aRmovaCineTdiRomSi, sixarulis qu-Caze, romelzec ukvemogvianebiT gavrceldainformacia, rom es sax-li gadaformebulia me-rabiSvilis biZaSvilze.parlamentSi axsenes as-eve kublaSvilebis sax-lic. es saxli miwis ze-viT aris oTxi sarTulida miwis qvemoT erTisarTuli. kublaSvile-bis gancxadebiT, isiniam saxlis mxolod mesa-me sarTuls floben.

saxli sakmaod dacul teri-

toriaze dgas, maRali galavani

aqvs, icaven dacvis TanamSromle-

bi. Tumca mis maxloblad mdgari

korpusebidan Cven mainc movaxer-

xeT foto masalis gadaReba, Tu

rogor Sedis kublaSvili am sa-

saxleSi. aqedan gamomdinare, mas

mouwia imis aRiareba, rom is nam-

dvilad iyo misi saxli, oRond

marto mesame sarTulio. sainte-

resoa, kerZo saxlSi rogor aris

mesame sarTuli misi? Tqvas maSin

visia danarCeni sarTulebi. SeiZ-

leba meore sarTuli sidedris

aris, pirveli sarTuli colis,

nulovani sarTuli SeiZleba gare

biZaSvilisac iyos da kublaSvili

marTals ambobdes, ra problemaa.

rac Seexeba kezeraSvilis sasax-

les, is mdebareobs Tbilisis

zRvasTan, Tbilisis zRvis klub-

Tan Zalian axlos. rodesac iq

mSeneblobis procesi mimdinareob-

da, me gavesaubre muSebs, aseve

TiTqmis yvela mezobels da ram-

denime maTganma damidastura, rom

is marTlac kezeraSvilis sakuT-

reba iyo. informaciidan, romelic

me movipove, Tundac am ramodenime

saxlis Sesaxeb, yvelaze rom aRar

visaubroT, SeiZleba gamovitanoT

ori azri. erTi is, rom es mSene-

bare da ukve aSenebuli sasaxlee-

bi saerTod ar aris merabiSvilis

da kezeraSvilis, ubralod, vi-

Rac pirovnebebs ekuTvniT, romle-

bic saerTod ar icnoben arc me-

rabiSvils, arc kezeraSvils da

SeiZleba kezeraSvili yovel meo-

re dRes, mxolod imitom inte-

resdeboda misi mSeneblobiT, rom

eWvi hqonda iq ruseTi raime sas-

wavlo centris ganTavsebas xom

ar apirebda. merabiSvili ki, al-

baT, piradad amowmebda, diRomSi

raime darRvevebiT xom ar midio-

da mSenebloba, rom Semdeg jari-

mis qviTari gamoewera.

rac Seexeba parla-mentSi saakaSvilis gan-cxadebas, rom es saxle-bi arc amaTia, arc imaTida saerTod arc aravi-sio, es ra Tqma unda, aseiqneboda. saakaSviliTu ityvis maTi saxle-biao, es niSnavs, romzustad sam sityvaSiaRiarebs im tyuils,rac man saaTebis ganmav-lobaSi apiara „rusTa-vi 2“-iT da „imedi“-T. va-no merabiSvili Tu aRi-arebs, rom is sasaxlee-

bi misia, gamo-dis, rom manjer yvela ma-R a l C i n o s a n iunda daiWirosda Semdeg saku-Tari Tavi. ro-gor aRiarebsaxla vano mera-biSvili, romdiRomSi misisaxlis mxol-od Savi karka-si da Sida mo-pirkeTeba rvi-dan-aT milio-

namde dajda. asevea be-JuaSvilebis sacxovre-beli kompleqsi kojor-Si da maTive sasaxleyazbegis 9-nomerSi.

kojoris sacxovrebeli komp-

leqsi eqvsi sarTulisgan Sedgeba,

masSi Sedis kortebi, fexburTis

da golfis saTamaSo moednebi,

auzebi da a.S. erTis mxriv, Zali-

an martivad SeiZleba gaimarTlos

Tavi beJuaSvilebis klanma imiT,

rom erTi Zma biznesmenia, fuli

aqvs da rasac unda imas aaSenebs,

magram sainteresoa, saidan iSova

amdeni fuli? ramdenad kanonieri

garigebebia massa da xelisufle-

bas Soris da xom ar aris saxe-

lisuflebo yulaba? amas me geub-

nebiT Zalian Jurnalisturi po-

ziciidan, sinamdvileSi Zalian

kargad vici, ra garigebebSi ari-

an konkretul biznesmenebTan xe-

lisuflebis warmomadgenlebi.

sxvaTaSoris,

arsebobs 2007 wlam-de moRvawe qarTvelibiznesmenebis sia da mi-si naxva internetis sa-Ziebo sistemaSic SegiZ-liaT, romelSic biznes-menebi kapitalis mixed-viT arian dalagebulni1-100 mde. am siis saTave-Si idgnen patarkaciSvi-lebi, xalvaSi, aseve bi-

Zina ivaniSvilic am sia-Si iyo moxseniebuli.2007 wlis Semdeg, rode-sac represiuli talRe-bi kvlav gagrZelda, ambiznesmenebis umeteso-ba gaiqca saqarTvelo-dan da Tan waiRo Tavisikapitalic. rac aq dar-Ca, an dauwves an Camoar-Tves da mTelma fulmaTavi moiyara xelisuf-lebis xelSi.

ra Tqma unda, saakaSvili yvela-

fers Tavis Tavze ver gadaiformeb-

da, amitom dauriges, gadaunawiles

im biznesmenebs, romlebic maTi la-

qiebi arian. anu am sasaxleebTan, am

qonebebTan dakavSirebulia yvela-

feri. maT qonebasTan dakavSirebu-

lia igive is tenderebi, romlebic

kanondarRvevebiT tardeba. aseve

qonebis Cuqeba sxvadasxva biznesme-

nebze. sxvaTaSoris, fulis „axevis“

am Zalian martivi procedurebis

iniciatori Tavdapirvelad nika

gvaramia iyo, xolo Semdeg zurab

adeiSvilma daxvewa da irakli oq-

ruaSvilic monawileobda im saka-

nonmdeblo bazis CamoyalibebaSi,

rac dRes-dReobiT gvaqvs.

- levan, am yvelafris gasa-

kontroleblad qveyanaSi arse-

bobs kontrolis palata, ratom

darCa es organo ufunqciod?

- am adamianebis qonebrivi

mdgomareobidan gamomdinare, ra

Tqma unda, ismis kiTxva, kontro-

lis palatis misamarTiT. kont-

rolis palataSi asobiT adamiania

dasaqmebuli, sakmaod didi Stati

aqvT. samwuxarod, moxda ise, rom

Cvens moZraobas aqamde ar gagvi-

maxvilebia yuradReba kontrolis

palatis saqmianobaze da rogorc

ki kontrolis palata politiku-

rad gaaqtiurda, anu gaxda poli-

tikuri zewolis berketi, sxva-

dasxva partiebis Tu organizaci-

ebis misamarTiT, gansakuTrebiT ki

„qarTuli ocnebis“mimarT, Cvenc

davinteresdiT, ra xdeboda kont-

rolis palataSi. mTeli am wle-

bis ganmavlobaSi, maT arqivSi, ar-

c erT uwyebaze mopovebuli ara-

nairi informacia ar inaxeba. ar-

c erT politikur partiaze, ro-

melzec vTqvaT, maT raime reagi-

reba moaxdines an gamoiZies. amis

Semdeg, bunebrivad mivdivarT das-

kvanamde, rom kontrolis palata

aris politikuri reagirebis ber-

keti da meti araferi. modiT, ax-

la ukeTesad davakavSiroT kont-

rolis palata maRalCinosnebis

saqmianobasTan an Tundac, poli-

tikur partiebTan. igive beJuaSvi-

lebma, kezeraSvilma, „aversis“ da

„psp“ mflobelebma da sxva bevr-

ma adamianma, ara erTxel gadau-

ricxa „nacionalur moZraobas“

soliduri Tanxa. yvela samSeneb-

lo kompania, romelic dRes-dRe-

obiT saqarTveloSi arsebobs, da-

valebulia xelisuflebisagan

Semdegnairad; xelisufleba maT

ukveTavs garkveuli saxis mSeneb-

lobas an amarjvebinebs tenderSi,

am kompaniebs ra Tqma unda, uxdi-

an garkveul Tanxas da Semdeg

dauwereli kanonis mixedviT, im

Tanxis garkveul nawils, xSir

SemTxvevaSi 40%-s, es kompania

ricxavs „nacionaluri moZrao-

bis“ angariSze, iZulebis wesiT,

ra Tqma unda. ufro konkretul

faqtebs rac Seexeba, kontrolis

palata uflebamosilia, moiTxo-

vos informacia yvela finansuri

operaciis Sesaxeb, romelic sa-

qarTveloSi xorcieldeba saxel-

mwifo uwyebis an politikuri

partiis mier. kargad maxsovs,

rogor daakaves erTi wlis win

ganaTlebis saministroSi, sakmaod

solidur Tanamdebobebze momuSa-

ve pirebi, Tumca Semdeg ra mox-

da, es ukve aRar gaJRerebula me-

diiT, fuli waarTves da gamouS-

ves. es iyo is periodi, rodesac

saakaSvilma gamoacxada, qamrebi

SemoiWireTo. maSin Zalian das-

WirdaT fuli da gadawyvites,

imaTgan amoeRoT, visac TviTonve

akeTebines fuli. am adamianebs

Tanxis nawili ki hqondaT gada-

ricxuli „nacionaluri moZrao-

bisTvis“, magram rac TviTon dar-

CaT, im Tanxidanac mosTxoves wi-

li. sad iyo maSin kontrolis pa-

lata? veraferi ver gamoiZia, ve-

raferi ver gaakeTa. ara erTi

darRveva iyo samegrelos guber-

niaSi. goris gubernatori kolo-

salur premiebs iwerda sakuTari

TavisTvis, 106 000 da 160 000

laris odenobiT. an, Tundac, ce-

zar CoCeli aviRoT, romlis mi-

marTac, igive kiTxvebi arsebobs.

kontrolis palatas ki 2003 wl-

idan dRemde, arasodes, arcerT

SemTxvevaSi reagireba ar mouxde-

nia.

mogelaZe ar axdensaranair reagirebas sx-va politikuri partie-bis finansur sakiTxeb-ze. Tundac „axali me-marjveneebis“ saqmiano-baze. maT garkveuliTanxa iSoves saidanRac,gaxsnes Zalian bevriofisi da piradad memaqvs seriozuli in-formacia, rom isini mo-qalaqeebs uxdian xel-fass, im axali kanonissawinaaRmdegod, rom-lis mixedviTac poli-tikuri subieqtis wina-aRmdeg SeiZleba aRiZ-ras sisxlis samarT-lis saqme,

Tuki man moisyida nebismieri

adamiani fulis an sxva momsaxu-

rebis sanacvlod. swored amas

akeTeben „axali memarjveneebi“ da

kontrolis palata dums. imitom,

rom es partia ukve „nacionalu-

ri moZraobis“ ganuyofeli Sto

gaxda. zustad amaves akeTebs „na-

cionaluri moZraobac“ pirdapir

Tu iribad, uxdian adamianebs xe-

lfasebs, uniSnaven premiebs. kon-

trolis palata ki acxadebs, ai,

Cven kanonis Sesabamisad Sevamow-

meT „nacionaluri moZraoba“ da

„qarTuli ocneba“. „nacionaleb-

ma“, ra Tqma unda, Seasrules Cve-

ni moTxovna, „qarTuli ocneba“ ki

naxeT ras akeTebso da gamohyavT

damnaSaveebad.

sxvaTaSoris, kidev erTi uz-

ustoba, romelic Cven saakaSvi-

lis maSindel gamosvlebSi aRmo-

vaCineT, aris is, rom man aafri-

ala ramodenime saxlis foto da

CamoTvala imaze meti gvarebi,

vidre saxlebis fotoebi hqonda.

aseve, arasodes arsad ar daukon-

kretebia, romeli saxli romel

maRalCinosans ekuTvnoda. me Se-

miZlia vTqva, rom maSindeli misi

es Jesti hgavda realurad blefs.

Cven yvela misamarTi miveciT

Jurnalistebs, sxvadasxva obiq-

turi mediis warmomadgenlebs da

araerTxel moxda am informaci-

is gadamowmeba.

lela arabuli

ratom aravin ikiTxa, es `patiosani~ da `gaRletili~ ministrebi Tu ara,

maSin romeli vauCerdarigebuli moqalaqeebi iSeneben am sasaxleebso?


darCeba Tu ara `̀qqarTuli

ocneba~ monitoringis subieqq-

tad, rogor da ra formiT da-

ibrunebs biZina ivaniSvili sa-

qqarTvelos moqqalaqqeobas da ra

xdeba realurad eka beseliasa

da zaqqaria qqucnaSvils Soris,

Temis detalebze `̀saerTo ga-

zeTs~ `̀qqarTuli ocnebis~ iuri-

diuli jgufis wevri zaqariaqucnaSvili esaubra.

_ batono zaqaria, cota xnis

win kontrolis palatam `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ sarCeli-mmonito-

ringis subieqtad gamocxadebis

Taobaze ganixila. ras gvetyviT

procesTan dakavSirebiT, ramde-

nad samarTlianad warimarTa?

_ kontrolis palatam abso-

luturad yvela resursi gamoi-

yena imisTvis, rom Jurnaliste-

bi sasamarTlo procesze ar da-

eSvaT. zogadi administraciuli

kodeqsis 198-e muxlis Tanaxmad,

procesi roca Riaa, aravis aqvs

ufleba Jurnalistebs profesi-

uli saqmianobis SesrulebaSi

xeli SeuSalos. Tavdapirvelad,

Jurnalistebs administraciul

SenobaSic ar uSvebdnen, Tumca

Cemi daJinebuli moTxovnis Sem-

deg SenobaSi Sesvlis ufleba

misces. kontrolis palatis

warmomadgenlebis mxridan vera-

nairi argumenti ver movismineT,

Tu ratom zRudavdnen Jurna-

listebis uflebebs da ar aZ-

levdnen sxdomaze daswrebis sa-

Sualebas. saboloo jamSi, Jur-

nalistebi mxolod teqnikuri

xelsawyoebis gareSe dauSves

procesze.

_ ramdenad adekvaturad wa-

rimarTa sasamarTlo procesi?

_ davebis ganmxilvelma sab-

Wos warmomadgenlebma mxolod

erTaderTi SekiTxva dagvisves,

Tu saidan movipoveT gaeros spe-

cialuri momxseneblis angariSi

politikuri partiebis gaerTia-

nebis Sesaxeb, kanonSi Sesatan

cvlilebebTan dakavSirebiT. ma-

Ti mxridan sxva aranairi

moTxovna da kiTxva ar yofila.

Cven moTxovnaze, gadmoecaT

qalbatoni mogelaZis mier war-

moebuli saqmis masalebi, Tu

ris safuZvelze gamogvacxades

monitoringis subieqtad, an eC-

venebinaT Cvens mier wardgenili

administraciuli sarCelis sa-

fuZvelze momzadebuli specia-

luri daskvna, kontrolis

palatis wevrebisgan mxolod

bodiSi miviReT, imis gamo,

rom aseTi dokumentacia ar

gaaCndaT. amitom saintereso

da gaurkvevelia, rogor, ris

safuZvelze gamoacxades

`qarTuli ocneba~ monito-

ringis subieqtad.

kontrolis palatam maqsimum

1 Tvis ganmavlobaSi unda gamo-

aqveynos Sesabamisi werilobiTi

gadawyvetileba, darCeba Tu ara

`qarTuli ocneba~ kvlav moni-

toringis subieqtad.

_ sazogadoebriv moZraobas-

Tan dakavSirebiT, rogorc Cans,

saboloo gadawyvetileba miRe-

buli ar aris. rogor gadawyde-

ba jarimis sakiTxi, romelic

kontrolis palatam `qarTul

ocnebasa~ da `qarTu mSenebels~

daakisra.

_ `qarTuli ocneba~ Tu ar

iqna cnobili monitoringis su-

bieqtad, Sesabamisad, mis anga-

riSze nebismieri raodenobiT,

rogorc iuridiul, aseve fizi-

kur pirs SeeZleba sasurveli

Semowirulobis gakeTeba. amitom

kontrolis palatas, roca `qar-

Tul ocnebasTan~ dakavSirebiT

gadawyvetileba ar miuRia, gaur-

kvevelia, ris safuZvelze iTxo-

ven Cveni mxridan jarimis gadax-

das. am nawilSic Tavad qalba-

toni mogelaZis mier mopovebul

masalebSic bevri ukanonobaa. ma-

galiTad, aRmoCnda, rom nugzar

xuciSvils jer kidev gasul

wels 145 aTasi lari hqonda mi-

Rebuli xelfasis, danamatis da

premiis saxiT, amitom mas Tavi-

suflad SeeZlo, Tundac 20

aTasi lari gadaericxa misTvis

sasurveli organizaciisTvis.

mocemul SemTxvevaSi arsebobs

aseTi praqtika, rom administra-

ciuli samarTaldarRvevis Tao-

baze administraciuli organos

gadawyvetileba, SesaZloa, gasa-

Civrdes, rogorc saCivriT aseve

sarCelis safuZvelze. maT So-

ris gansxvaveba isaa, rom sarCe-

lis SemTxvevaSi saqmes 3 ins-

tanciis sasamarTlo ixilavs,

meore SemTxvevaSi ki 2 instan-

ciis sasamarTlo da isic

SezRuduli saproceso uflebe-

biT. `qarTulma ocnebam~ sasa-

marTlos saCivriT mivmarTeT,

Tumca meore dRes miviReT Sesa-

bamisi dadgenileba, rom sasamar-

Tlo Cvens saqmes saCivris gziT

ar ganixilavda da gvTxovdnen,

migvemarTa Sesabamisi sarCeliT.

mocemul situaciaSi maTi amoca-

naa, rom, rac SeiZleba mokle

droSi aRasrulon ukanono ga-

dawyvetileba da yadaRa daadon

sazogadoebrivi moZraobis qone-

bas.

Tumca minda giTxraT ramde-

nime argumenti, ris safuZvel-

zec `qarTuli ocneba~ ar SeiZ-

leba ganixilebodes, rogorc

monitoringis subieqti.

1. administraciul organos

Sesabamisi kanoni unda aZlevdes

uflebas, ama Tu im pirs miani-

Wos politikuri statusiT, rac

am SemTxvevaSi, kontrolis pa-

latas ar gaaCnia. politikuri

partiis SemTxvevaSic iusticiis

saministrom partia Tu regist-

raciaSi ar gaatara, mas mieniWe-

ba Sesabamisi statusi da ver

gaxdeba politikuri partia. ami-

tom statusis gareSe aravis

aqvs ufleba, vinmeze zemoqmede-

ba moaxdinos. advokatebma davs-

viT SekiTxva, romeli kanonis

romeli qvepunqtis mixedviT

aqvs kontrolis palatas ufle-

ba, piri gamoacxados monitorin-

gis subieqtad?

2. aseve kontrolis palatas

ar aqvs Sesabamisi aqti, Tu ris

safuZvelze daadgines, rom `qar-

Tul ocnebas~ aqvs politikuri

miznebi da amocanebi.

_ kontrolis palatas amis

argumentad biZina ivaniSvilis 7

oqtombers gakeTebuli gancxade-

ba mohyavs, romlis Tanaxmad, bi-

Zina ivaniSvili premier-mminist-

robas apirebs?

_ Tqven saubrobT ivaniSvi-

lis im gancxadebaze, roca jer

kidev bunebaSic ar arsebobda

sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qar-

Tuli ocneba~. qarTuli samoqa-

laqo kodeqsiTa da mewarmeTa

Sesaxeb kanonis safuZvelze,

damfuZnebeli pasuxs ar agebs

organizaciaze da organizacia

pasuxs ar agebs damfuZnebelze.

amitomac arsebobs calke iuri-

diuli da fizikuri piri. orive

maTgans gansxvavebuli valdebu-

lebebi gaaCnia. kontrolis pa-

latam ki erTmaneTSi auria biZi-

na ivaniSvilis rogorc fiziku-

ri piris, 7 oqtombris, gancxa-

deba da ivaniSvilis, rogorc

iuridiuli piris noemberSi ga-

keTebuli gzavnili,

_ batono zaqaria, ramdeni-

meTviani sasamarTlo davis Sem-

deg biZina ivaniSvili saqarTve-

los moqalaqed jer kidev ar

iTvleba. ra etapzea procesi da

ra gegmebi gaqvT advokatTa

jgufs?

_ samoqalaqo reestrs 14

Tebervals amoewura yvelanairi

vada biZina ivaniSvilis natura-

lizaciis gziT moqalaqeobis mi-

niWebasTan dakavSirebiT Sesaba-

misi werilobiTi daskvnis gace-

mis Taobaze. batoni vaSaZe acxa-

debda, rom Sesabamis dadgenile-

bas Tebervlis bolomde gascem-

da, magram axla ukve martis Sua

ricxvebia da samoqalaqo re-

estrs aranairi gancxadeba ar

gaukeTebia. vaSaZis uwyeba, ro-

gorc Cans, CixSia, radgan uar-

yofiTi daskvnis gamosatanad

aranairi mtkicebulebebi ar ga-

aCniaT, dadebiTi gadawyvetile-

bis miReba ki xelisuflebas ar

awyobs.

_ ras apirebT advokatebi

moqalaqeobis aRdgenasTan dakav-

SirebiT, usasrulod xom ar da-

elodebiT samoqalaqo reestris

reagirebas?

_ 5 aprilamde, meti drois

gawelvis aranairi safuZveli

aRar gaaCniaT. maT pasuxi auci-

leblad unda gagvcen, amitom ve-

lodebiT am periods.

_ gavrcelda informacia,

rom Tqvensa da eka beselias So-

ris dapirispireba arsebobs. am

mosazrebas isic amyarebs, rom

bolo dros iuridiuli jgufis

mier organizebul preskonferen-

ciaze qalbatoni eka ar imyofe-

boda. ratom, ra aris mizezi?

_ marTalia, qalbatonma ekam

ar icoda preskonferenciis Ta-

obaze, radgan mas aqvs Tavisi

funqciebi da Tavis movaleobas

asrulebs. iuridiuli jgufi

sakmaod bevr sakiTxze muSaobs

da Sesabamisad, yvela advokats

Tavisi muSaobis profili aqvs.

_ eka beseliam Tqveni misa-

marTiT sakmaod mware ganacxadi

gaakeTa. citireba: namdvilad ar

vici, ras fiqrobs zaqaria Cemze,

Tumca is ki vici, rom igi biZi-

na ivaniSvilze zegavlenas ver

moaxdenso.

_ qalbatonebs ar vekamaTebi,

amitom arc am gancxadebaze vapi-

reb komentaris gakeTebas, yve-

las Tavisi arCevani aqvs.

miranda nabaxteveli

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ukanasknel periodSi qqarTu-

li media eka beselias perso-

nisadmi interess amJRRavnebs. bu-

nebrivia, am interesis motivacia

gansxvavebuli media-ssaSualebebi-

saTvis - gansxvavebulia, radgan

qqalbatoni eka ”qqarTul ocnebas-

Tan” asocirdeba.

_ eka, Tqven batoni biZinas

gverdiT, misi politikaSi Semos-

vlisTanave, erT-eerTi pirveli

gamoCndiT. dReisaTvis qveynis po-

litikuri procesebis mTavari

figuris piradi advokatoba sakma-

od didi pasuxismgeblobaa. ra

etapzea ivaniSvilis moqalaqeo-

bis dabrunebis sakiTxi?

_ saakaSvilis yvelaze didi

sisustis da simxdalis gamovli-

neba (ukanonobaze rom araferi

vTqvaT) biZina ivaniSvilisTvis

moqalaqeobis CamorTmeva iyo.

sul cota darCa 5 aprilamde,

rodesac saakaSvil-

ma unda miiRos ga-

dawyvetileba –

aRiaros, rom qveya-

naSi konstitucia

masze maRla dgas

Tu kidev erTxel

unda gviTxras, rom

is dgas konstitu-

ciaze maRla. mosax-

leobis didi nawi-

li da saerTaSori-

so sazogadoeba el-

odeba am gadawyve-

tilebas da es ar

aris rigiTi movle-

na, romelic uxmau-

rod Caivlis. me

mjera, rom samarT-

lianoba aRdgeba.

_ gasagebia, rom biZina iva-

niSvils moqalaqeoba ekuTvnis.

ramdenad realuria xelisufle-

bisaTvis kanonis aRsruleba ma-

Sin, rodesac sazogadoebisTvis

ucxo ar aris xelisuflebis mi-

er kanonebis swrafi tempiT miRe-

ba-uukan gamowveva?

_ kanonebTan msgavsi damoki-

debuleba da upativcemuloba, ra-

sac iCenen saqarTvelos xelisuf-

lebis umaRlesi Tanamdebobis pi-

rebi, arsad minaxavs da msmenia.

Rame dagegmaven, rogori cvlile-

ba surT kanonSi da meore dRes

cvlian. amiT parlaments xom da-

ukarges funqcia da avtoriteti,

sazogadoebas aCveven, rom SeiZle-

ba xelisufali kanons survilis

mixedviT moeqces da mTlianobaSi

viRebT qaoss. jerjerobiT Zala-

dobiT marTvad qaoss, magram es

didxans ver gagrZeldeba.

arsad ar SenarCunebula aseTi

reJimi. finali dramatulia xol-

me. Cvenc xom bolo wlebi sul am

dramatuli finalis Tavidan ari-

debas vcdilobT? es xelisuf-

lebam sisusted CauTvala opozi-

ciur partiebs da sazogadoebas

da ufro metad Zaladobs. da ra

aris amis gagrZeleba? risxva -

xalxis risxva, romelic

grovdeba am Zaladobisa

da usamarTlobis gamo.

imavdroulad, ukan daxe-

va xelisuflebis mxri-

dan mxolod maSin gvina-

xavs, sadac principuli

da bolomde mebrZoli

iyo konkretuli sakiTx-

ebis mimarT sazogadoeba.

biZina ivaniSvilis

moqalaqeoba ar aris

mxolod erTi konkretu-

li sakiTxi, es sakiTxi

arCvevnebis legitimaciis ganm-

sazRvreli erT-erTi faqtoria,

radgan, rodesac batoni biZinas

mimarT aseTi didi molodini da

mxardaWeraa, Sesabamisad, mas un-

da hqondes arCevnebSi monawileo-

bis ufleba, xalxis mxradaWera

iq ganisazRvreba swored.

_ kontrolis palatis finan-

suri monitoringis samsaxurma

`qarTuli ocnebisaTvis~ Tanxebis

gadamricxveli fizikuri pirebis

Semowmebis Semdeg am pirebis axs-

na-gganmartebebi mediiT gaavrcela.

aseve mediiT gavrcelda ”qarTu

bankis” maRali Tanamdebobis pire-

bis tele-aaRiarebiTi Cveneba... ro-

gor fiqrobT, ramdenad eqneba am

process gagrZeleba?

_ es yvelaferi magonebs im

scenaris gagrZelebas, rodesac

2007 wels daiwyo SeTqmulebis

Teoriis antigmirebis demonstri-

reba da filmebis gadaReba gvara-

mias reJisorobiT. amas mohyva

“modelirebuli qronika”, am se-

rialis gagrZelebaa es Cvenebebic.

erT uwyebaSi igegemeba es yvela-

feri, erTi scenaristi hyavs - sa-

akaSvili da misi gundi. es dro

yvelasTvis kidev erTi gamocdaa

da albaT, gadamwyvetic. adamia-

nebma unda gauZlon cota met

diskomforts da yvelaferi ar

unda ikadron.

_ aucileblad unda gkiTxoT

”saxalxo krebis” da koalicia ”qa-

rTuli ocnebis” savaraudo Tanam-

Sromlobis Sesaxeb. ra formiT Se-

iZleba Sedges es TanamSromloba?

_ miWirs detalebze saubari,

es, albaT, damokidebulia imaze,

Tu ramdenad moixsneba is faqto-

ri, rac abrkolebs am process.

vfiqrob, didi sazogadoebrivi

Tanxmobis pirobebSi mobilizebu-

li unda iqnes gamarjvebisaTvis

saWiro yvela resursi.

istoriulad, rodesac Cveni

eri erTiandeboda, yovelTvis va-

marcxebdiT uricxv mters, xolo

daqsaqsva - Cveni yvelaze susti

rgoli iyo. amitom gvmarTebs ax-

la piradi ganwyobebis gadadeba

da saerTo miznisTvis Rirseuli

brZola. me mjera, biZina ivaniSvi-

li amisTvis yvelafers gaakeTebs.

_ martis bolos-aaprilis da-

sawyisSi, ramdenadac cnobilia,

igegmeba ”qarTuli ocnebis” yri-

loba. ra SegiZliaT gviTxraT

axali saxeebis Sesaxeb?

_ vfiqrob, politikisTvis

axali saxeebis wardgena ukve

moxda sainiciativo jgufis war-

dgenis dros. politikas da par-

tiul mSeneblobas gamocdilebac

sWirdeba siaxlesTan erTad. axla

mTavaria, erTiani saarCevno inf-

rastruqturis aSeneba da regio-

nebSi Rirseuli xalxis win wawe-

va. ar unda gamogveparos arafe-

ri, saWiroa yuradReba, rom

msgavsi gancxadebebi, rasac axla

vismenT “qarTu bankis” mimarT, ar

gaxSirdes arCevnebis win, ro-

gorc es xelisuflebas sCvevia -

Seagzavnian mstovrebs

da mere arCevnebis win

akeTebineben gancxade-

bebs. me es iaffasiani

speqtaklebi vnaxe sa-

parlamento arCevnebis

win Cems olqSi-naZa-

ladevis raionSi.

axla xelisufleba

gacilebiT sastiki da

TavaSvebuli iqneba,

radgan mas eSinia biZi-

na ivaniSvilis, icis,

rom baton biZinas aqvs

moraluri upirateso-

ba, xalxis ndoba da

siyvaruli. yvelaze

didi siaxle qarTuli

politikisTvis biZina ivaniSvilia

da mis winaaRmdeg brZola did

usamarTlobad mimaCnia. vgulisx-

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gazis, denis an SeSis fuli

rogor gadaixadon es ar yofi-

la problema. umuSevroba pr-

oblemas ar warmoadgens Tur-

me. saskolod wignebs ver yi-

dulobs xalxi. eqimTan kon-

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maT Soris, feisbukic. bolo

dros, ramdenime gamokiTxviT,

romlis qveteqstic yovelTvis

erTnairia _ vis dauWerdiT

mxars, xval rom arCevnebi tar-

debodes _ upirobo lideri bi-

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bolo rigebSi moCanCale saakaS-

vili daiboRma da situaciis ga-

mosasworeblad yvela ministri

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cocxlod aqtualuri iyo: ro-

gor davewioT da gavuswroT

biZina ivaniSvils? maS, amdeni

saministro da dasaqmebuli

risTvis myavso?! _ dasva rito-

rikuli kiTxva prezidentma da

ministrebic usityvod miuxvd-

nen saTqmels.

meore dRes yvela saminist-

rom gaxsna dablokili sisteme-

bi da TanamSromlebma, romleb-

sac manamde SezRuduli hqon-

daT feisbukis moxmareba, Tavi-

suflad daiwyes socialuri

qselebis gamoyeneba. vinc ar iyo

feisbukis momxmarebeli, daava-

les, rom gawevrianebuliyvnen

da daiwyo didi maraToni. misi

arsi is aris, rom TiToeuli

momxmarebeli mowonebis niSans,

anu `laiks~ aZlevs ama Tu im

politikosis gverds, rac Ta-

visTavd niSnavs am politikosi-

sadmi personis simpaTias. sami-

nistroebis yvela TanamSromeli

valdebulia, daulaikos prezi-

dents. ar daalaikebs da. . . Se-

degi yvelam kargad icis. dava-

lebaze kontroli saministroe-

bis Sida departamentebis xelm-

ZRvanelebs aqvT davalebuli.

Seqmnilia specialuri Tanamde-

boba IT specialistebisTvis.

isini akontroleben, romeli

kompiuteridan ar moxda mowo-

nebis niSnis micema.

yvelaze warmatebuli minis-

tri am saqmeSi SaSkini aRmoCn-

da. man gegma 100 procentiT Se-

asrula da erTi laikic ar ga-

maza. arauSavs ra muSaobs jan-

dacvis saministro. Tumca ro-

gorc nacebi irwmunebian, aq re-

zervi bevria da prezidents win

kidev uamravi likis bedniereba

aqvs darCenili. yvelaze Camor-

Cenili garemos dacvis saminis-

troa. Turme goga xaCiZe amis

gamo mmarTvelma elitam kargad

gamolanZRa. rogorc saminist-

ros TanamSromlebi acxadeben,

ministrs araferi uTqvams saku-

Tari TanamSromlebisTvis da

davaleba ar miucia, radgan Za-

lian samarcxvino saqmed miaCnia.

ori dRis win, rogorc iqna,

mTlad saqarTvelos Zalisxme-

vam Sedegi gamoiRo da miSam

mcirediT, magram mainc gaaswro

mowinaaRmdeges. dRes ki igi da-

majereblad liderobs da maSin,

roca ivaniSvils mxolod 92

aTasi laiki aqvs, misi mowone-

bis yulaba 104 aTasi laikiT

aris savse. aha, ivaniSvilo, ga-

joba qarTvelebis favoritma?

ise, simarTles Tu vityviT, yo-

CaR, ivaniSvils. am kacs, Tavs

rom saqarTvelos prezidents

eZaxis, saxelmwifo struqtu-

rebSi dasaqmebuli hyavs naxevar

milionamde adamiani. yvelas

Tavze maTraxiT adgas da aiZu-

lebs, daulaikos. hoda, ar gin-

da magis jobna, roca Sens mxa-

res mxolod gulwrfeli momx-

marebelia gulwrfeli ganwyo-

bebiT?!

es axali ambavi imitom ga-

vixseneT, rom sazogadoebam na-

xos, riT aris dakavebuli sa-

qarTvelos xelisufleba da

riT iqcevs Tavs problemebiT

savse qveyanaSi. rogorc Cans,

mTavari prezidentis dakarguli

Rirsebaa da eg Tu ramenairad

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gviSavs, undac gamarTldes eqs-

pertebis prognozi, rom Tvis

bolomde puri da xorblis na-

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ucxoebi alaparakdnenam xelisuflebas rom sindi-

si hqondes, laikebs ki ar unda

dasdevdes, aramed, ori aguri

eWiros xelSi da mesames eZeb-

des. mesames, radgan qveyanaSi

iseTi situaciaa, rom ori agu-

ri TavSi Casartymelad namdvi-

lad ar iqneba sakmarisi. maSin,

roca prezidenti laikebs das-

devs, saqarTveloSi amerikis sa-

vaWro palatis warmomadgeneli

amerikul Jurnal `forbsisaT-

vis~ micemul interviuSi xmau-

rian gancxadebas akeTebs. esben

emborgis SefasebiT, qarTuli

ekonomikis aRdgenisTvis sakma-

risi Zalisxmeva ar ixarjeba.

bolo ramdenime wlis ganmavlo-

baSi arsebobs gancda, rom ukan

miveqanebiT da arsebuli fonde-

bi da rezervebi ileva.

am amerikel kacs ki ugrZv-

nia, rom kargi araferi gvWirs,

magram saqarTveloSi xelisuf-

lebas imdeni kudis amwevi gamo-

uCnda, rom laikebis ambavze nak-

lebi arc aq xdeba. „mcire da

saSualo mewarmeTa asociaci-

is“ prezidentis gancxadebiT, es

Sefasebebi konkretikas mokle-

bulia. giorgi isakaZis TqmiT,

emborgis daskvna argu-mentirebuli araa. inves-ticiebis kuTxiT xeli-suflebas agresiuli po-litika aqvs: bolo 18 Tve-Si ucxouri investiciebisasurvel niSnulze ara,magram aSkarad izrdeba,rac xelisuflebis Za-lisxmevis magaliTad Se-iZleba dasaxeldes.

isev olRa bebias unda dave-

sesxoT, sad naxa am SeCvenebul-

ma gazrdili investiciebi?! sa-

qarTvelosken gamoxedva rusul

kapitalsac ki aRar unda. meo-

rec, amerikis savaWro palatis

warmomadgeneli marto investi-

ciebze ar saubrobs. is acxa-

debs, rom qarTuli ekonomikis

aRdgenisTvis zogadad sakmarisi

Zalisxmeva ar ixarjeba. ise, ra-

Ra Zalisxmeva unda daixarjos,

rac aris saministroebsa da da-

saqmebul moqalaqeebSi, mTlia-

nad xmardeba prezidentis feis-

bukis gverdis mowonebasa da

dalaikebas.

xelisuflebis kidev erTi

pirismomwmedi saerTaSoriso

investiciebis sakoordinacio

centris xelmZRvanelia. igi

amerikis savaWro palatis war-

momadgenlis gancxadebas upiri-

spirdeba. giorgi seTuriZe ac-

xadebs, rom marTalia, eko-nomikuri aqtivoba Semci-rebulia, magram amaSi xe-lisuflebis dadanaSau-leba uadgiloa. yvelaqveyanas ekonomikuri kr-izisis fonze uwevs biz-nesisTvis saxsrebis mo-Zieba, romlebic evropisfinansuri problemebisgamo kidev ufro Zvirde-ba da msoflioSi saqon-lis mimosvlac mcirdeba.piriqiT, seTuriZe, piriqiT!

swored imitom, rom evropaSi

problemebia, fuli da kapitali

axal bazrebs da gasasvlels

eZebs da saqarTveloSi rom

sul cotaTi mainc Sesaferisi

viTareba iyos, aq Semovidoda.

ucxouri investicia bevrs ara-

fers Txoulobs, mTavaria, iyos

stabiluri damokidebuleba ka-

pitalis da kerZo sakuTrebis

mimarT, danarCens TviTon moer-

gebian. ucxoeTSi ukve yvela-

saTvis cnobilia, rom Tu awyo-

bil biznesze romelime qarT-

vel maRalCinosans nerwyvi mo-

uvida, mere Zalian cnobili

brendic rom iyos, mamaRmerTic

veRar daicavs.

didi mmezRapream dReebSi radio „Tavisuf-

lebam“ Zalian saintereso masa-

lebi gamoaqveyna, romelic qar-

Tul soflis meurneobaSi arse-

bul mZime problemebze migva-

niSnebs. saqarTveloSi soflad

qveynis mosaxleobis naxevarze

meti cxovrobs, magram maT mier

Seqmnili dovlaTi ar aris am

maCveneblis proporciuli. sa-

qarTvelos statistikis erov-

nuli samsaxuris monacemebiT,

mTlian Sida produqtSi sof-

lis meurneobis wili 7 pro-

centze odnav mets Seadgens. es

maCvenebeli bolo wlebis gan-

mavlobaSi permanentulad kle-

bulobs da vardebis xelisuf-

lebis periodSi 35 procenti-

dan 7 procentamde Camovida.

„ekonomikuri politikis

kvlevis centrma“ moawyo pre-

zentacia – `2011 wlis saqarT-

velos ekonomikis perspeqtivis

mimoxilva – wliuri Sejameba“.

qveynis ekonomikaSi agraruli

produqciis wilis gazrdis pi-

roba araerTxel dado saqarT-

velos mTavrobam. es piroba ki-

dev erTxel gaimeora saqarTve-

los prezidentma parlamentSi

wliuri moxsenebiT gamosvli-

sas: _ SarSan me dagpir-diT, rom 2015 wlisaTvissaqarTvelos soflis me-urneobis produqcias ga-vaormagebdiT. dRevande-li monacemebiT, soflismeurneobis seqtori uk-ve, daaxloebiT, 35 pro-centiT aris gazrdili.

sinamdvileSi, soflis meur-

neoba 35 procentiT ki ara,

mTliani Sida produqtis zrdis

Sesabamisadac ar izrdeba. „eko-

nomikuri politikis kvlevis

centris“ koordinatoris nino

evgeniZis gancxadebiT, soflis

meurneobaSi dasaqmebuli adami-

anebis 17–18 procenti dReSi

iRebs 1 dolarze nakleb Semo-

savals. saqarTvelos mTavroba

sxvadasxva proeqts axorcie-

lebda sasoflo biznesis waxa-

lisebis mizniT. maT Sorisaa,

meqanizaciis programa, yurZnis

Cabarebis subsidireba, hibridu-

li jiSis simindis programa.

miuxedavad Sedegebis simcirisa,

xelisufleba mainc ganagrZobs

soflis meurneobis biznesSi Ca-

revas, romelic ratomRac yo-

velTvis warumateblad mTavr-

deba.

prezidentis bolo dapireba

aseTia: _ uaxloesi 3 kvi-ris ganmavlobaSi Cven Se-viZenT 250 axal traqtor-sa da 400 misabmel agre-gats; amitom am wlis 1 iv-nisamde meqanizaciis yve-la centri, jamSi, aRWur-vili iqneba 563 erTeulitraqtoriT, 50 erTeulikombainiT, 22 erTeulispecteqnikiT da 1470 er-Teuli guTniTa da traq-torze misabmeli sxvateqnikiT.

iqneb xelisuflebam es yve-

laferi marTlac SeiZinos, mag-

ram glexs ra? ufro meti Sei-

Zina ivaniSvilma ramdenime wlis

win, magram amiT sofels SeRa-

vaTi ar miuRia. sad gaqra aso-

biT erTeuli teqnika, aravin

icis. ufro sworad, ician da

ar amboben.

prezidentis dapirebebi bo-

lo dros uniWo zRaprebs daem-

sgavsa, romelsac aRaravin

kiTxulobs. zRaprebis Tematika

farToa: jvris monastris dab-

runeba, evropis Cempionati fex-

burTSi... arCevnebis moaxloe-

basTan erTad, zRaprebis raode-

noba da daujereblobis xaris-

xi izrdeba. rodis gaskdeba

tyuilebis buSti, ucnobia.

cnobilia, rom saqarTvelos

sxva sikeTesTan erTad, laike-

bis moyvaruli prezidenti

hyavs da is droa, yvelam erTad

SevcvaloT cnobili simReris

teqti da erTxmaSi viRiRinoT;

laiqebis qveyanaaaaa!

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zeTsa da ukrainaSi. revoluci-

is sqema iugoslaviaSi Casulma

Jvaniam, saakaSvilma da gamyre-

liZem gadaamowmes. scenaris mi-

xedviT, xelaxali arCevnebi un-

da daniSnuliyo. revoluciasac

mxolod saakaSvili emxroboda.

arCevnebSi meore adgilze gasu-

li saakaSvili pirvelobas

iTxovda. “burjanaZe-demokrate-

bi” ki, mxolod mailsis “uban-

uban sirbilis” Semdeg, moxvdnen

parlamentSi. saqarTvelos saSi-

nao saqmeebSi ucxoeli elCebis

Carevis praqtikac, pirvelma ma-

ilsma daiwyo. SevardnaZem “xe-

lebi daibana” da “saxlSi wave-

dio”_ Tqva. uflebamosileba-

Sewyvetili parlamentis, uleba-

mosileba Sewyvetilma Tav-rem

daTxovnili parlamentis xelax-

la mowveviT, saknonmdeblo sa-

arCevno cvlilebebi da arCevene-

bis Sedegebic_ proporciulisa

da maJoritarulis saTavisod

Secvala. kanondarRveviT SeiTav-

sa prezidentis uflebamosileba

da amiT saakaSvilis gapreziden-

tebas Seuwyo xeli. mTeli ube-

durebebic saqarTveloSi aqedan

daiwyo! mosvlidan sami dRis

Tavze, saakaSvilisa da “Tavi-

suflebis institutis” brZane-

biT, daaregistrires marTlmadi-

deblobisTvis yovlad miuRebel

“ieRovas mowmeTa seqtas”. erTi

kviris Tavze daarbies gldanis

eklesia. kamaziT Seangries ekle-

siis kari. (satelevizio kadreb-

Si kargad sCanan: axalaia, sano-

Ze, baramiZe, bokeria, merabiSvi-

li, oqruaSvili, adeiSvili da

sxva dRevandeli maRalCinosne-

bi.) “vardosnebis zonder-briga-

debma” fexiT gaTeles xatebi,

scemes mrevli. hilari klinto-

nis daJinebuli miTiTebiT,

“ieRovelebis ideologiasTan

brZolisTvis” daapatimres mama

basili. (eklesiis karis Semtv-

reveli kamazis mZRoli, Semd-

gomSi welsqveviT mowyda.) pir-

velive kvireebSi, jer kidev

“pirvel arxze” “Tavisuflebis

institutidan” movida brZaneba,

eklesiis diskreditaciis miz-

niT, gadacemaTa ciklis - “re-

portaJebi jojoxeTidan” gaSve-

ba. mizani _ eklesiisa da uwmin-

desis diskreditaciaa. TanamS-

romelTa mxridan uars_ maTi

samsaxuridan daTxovna mohyva.

gauSves TiTqmis yvela profesi-

onali kadri. pirveli arxi “na-

cionalebis” xelSi gadadis.

amis paralelurad, “rusTavi-2”-

ze gadis gadacemaTa cikli, sa-

dac gamodian gandgomili deka-

nozebi, “axleburad moazrovne”

mRvdlebi, seminariis studente-

bi, e.w. “cnobadi saxeebi” da

marTlmadidebluri eklesiis ga-

qilikebas ewevian: “mSier qveya-

naSi, eklesiebisa da samebis taZ-

ris mSeneblobis dro ar aris”-

dekanozi basil kobaxiZe. para-

lelurad “Tavisuflebis insti-

tuti”- Tea TuTberiZe, levan

ramiSvili, ukve parlamentari-

giga bokeria, ewevian agitacias,

qarTuli marTlmadideblobis

winaaRmdeg. “nacionalebis saxee-

bi“ miSa maWavariani da daviT

tyeSelaSvili zugdidSi meufe

gerasimes damxobis mxaradmWeri

agitaciisTvis Cadian. Tea TuT-

beriZe acxadebs, rom skolebSi

marTlmadidebluri mcnebebis

swavleba, arRvevs sxva konfesi-

ebis bavSvebis uflebebs. minist-

ri kaxa lomaia, hagiografiasa

da “vefxistyaosans” nagavze ga-

dasayrels uwodebs, giga boke-

ria ki winaparTa xsovnis pati-

viscemas _ faSizms. levan ra-

miSvilis (asatrianis) miTiTe-

biT, marTlmadidebloba iseTive

konfesiaa, rogoric ieRovelTa

an sxva seqtebi. rac ganaxorci-

eles kidec religiis kanonis

miRebiT. boloniis konvenciaze

apelirebiT, tardeba e.w. “warma-

tebuli ganaTlebis reforma”

romelic CvenTan realurad,

sxvadasxva qveynebis ganaTlebis

kanonidan amoglejili Tezisebi-

Taa warmodgenili da saerTo

qarTul tradiciul ganaTlebas-

Tan araferi aqvs. ganaTlebis ka-

nons, lomaiasa da “nacionaleb-

Tan” erTad, mxars, yvelaze me-

tad e.w. “gonieri partia”

uWers. Seadgines “axali ganaT-

lebis kanoni”, romelsac erTia-

ni sakakonmdeblo kanonis saxe

ar aqvs. yvela kanons unda gaaC-

ndes doqtrina. is, rasTan Sesa-

bamisobaSic es kanoni modis.

aseTi ganaTlebis kanonSi ar ar-

sebobs. saqarTveloSi arsebobda

qarTul, erovnul ganaTlebaze

agebuli dimitri uznaZisa da

arnold Ciqobavas ganaTlebis

doqtrinebi, romlebic ugulve-

belyves. “axali ganaTlebis re-

formiT”, romelic ganaTlebis

sistemaSi korufciasTan brZo-

lis egidiT wamoiwyes: a) uni-

versitets waarTves avtonomia.

universitetis 22 fakulteti-

dan, datovebes 6 fakulteti.

b)universitetidan gauSves ga-

mocdili, 60 wels gadacilebu-

li kadrebi. (boloniis konven-

ciaSi es ar weria!) gamocdili

mecnieri swored samoci wlis

Semdeg iwyebs wlebis ganmavlo-

baSi dagrovili codnis samecni-

ero naSromebad gadatanas. maT

nacvlad moiyvanes “Tavisufle-

bis institutis”, “kmarasa” da

ucxoeTSi 2-3-Tvis e.w “treinin-

gebis” Sedegad sertifikataRe-

buli kadrebi. g)skolebSi TviT-

mmarTvelobebis saxeliT Semoi-

Res usargeblo “sameTvalyureo

sabWoebi”. direqtorebis arCeva

moxda lototronebiT, aTeulo-

biT gamocdili adamiani darCa

umuSevari. “nacionalebis xelq-

veiTi samTvalyureo sabWo” da

maT mier arCeuli direqtori

skolebSi korufciis umTavresi

wyaro gaxda. d) moswavles, mas-

wavleblis da mSoblis dabezRe-

bis ufleba mieca, ramac mozar-

debSi dasmena-CaSvebebis damkvid-

rebas Seuwyo xeli. v) rig sko-

lebSi, 4-5 klasebSi, pornogra-

fiuli suraTebiT ilustrire-

buli seqsologiis saxelmZRva-

neloebis Setanis mcdelobasac

hqonda adgili. z)”deda enidan”

amoRebulia gogebaSvilis “deda

ena”. mSobliuris nacvlad daer-

qva “qarTuli ena”. “deda enas-

Tan” mimarTebaSic damaxinjebu-

li saxiTaa mocemuli. T). dar-

Rveulia sagnebis Sinaarsi da

qronologia, rac bavSvebs saqar-

Tvelos istoriis Seswavlis

SesaZleblobas ukargavs. ar ar-

sebobs ganaTlebis erTiani

programa. skolebs, yovelwliu-

rad, yvela saganSi, skolis mier

arCeuli saxelmZRvaneloTi sar-

geblobis ufleba eZleva. umaR-

lesSi Cabarebisas, testebSi ma-

salebis mixedviT, abiturients

SesaZloa esa Tu is masala sko-

laSi gavlilic arc hqondes. i)

stadionebis mSeneblobis piaris

fonze, skolebSi Semcirda fi-

zikuri aRzrdis saaTebi. k)

umaRlesSi moxvedrili abitu-

rienti, ukiduresad gaZvirebuli

gadasaxadis pirobebSi ganaTle-

bas veRar Rebulobs. ganaTlebas

umaRleSi aRaravin iZleva, rad-

gan gayvanilia kolejis doneze.

l) lomaias moTxovniT, skoleb-

Si aikrZala locvebis kuTxeebi,

maSin roca ikiTxeboda “mamo

Cveno” da ‘swavlis dawyebis da

damTavrebis Semdgomi locvebi”.

bavSvebs aswavlidnen “ara kacT

kvlas”, “ar imruSos”, “ar iqur-

dos’, “pativi eci mamasa Sensa da

dedsa Sensas”. m) ganaTleba

umaRlesebSi gaxda fasiani da

Sesabamisad, bevri SeWirvebuli

ojaxis biujeti mas ver wvdeba.

n) korufciasTan brZolis saba-

biT dawyebuli ganaTlebis re-

formis gatarebis Sedegad, sa-

xelmwifo universitets 40 mi-

lioni gaflangva daufiqsira.

universitetis biblioTekidan

gasayidad gatanil iqna unika-

luri wignebi o) marTlmadideb-

lur qveyanaSi jvrebis tareba

aekrZalaT patimrebsac. p) “Ta-

visuflebis institutidan” na-

cionalebis daniSnulma reqtor-

ma- xubuam, romelic sofelSi

Txebis mwyemsviT iyo dakavebu-

li, iv. javaxiSvilis savarZel-

Si Caskupebisas xelmZRvanel

postebze universitetSi Tavisi

naTesavebi, maT Soris, sabaJoze

momuSave adamianebi daniSna. J)

`Tavisuflebis institutis” mi-

er ganxorcielebul reformaSi

gamoikveTa ganaTlebis refor-

mis WeSmariti arsi _ qveyanaSi,

rac SeiZleba meti gaunaTlebe-

li qarTvelis arseboba, rac

gaunaTlebeli, ugunuri da advi-

ladsamarTavi eris Camoyalibe-

bis tendenciaa. televiziebiTa

da presiT, mimdinareobs tradi-

ciuli qarTuli ojaxis simtki-

cis winaaRmdeg mimarTuli agi-

tacia da “qaliSvilobis insti-

tutis CamorCenilobis” propa-

ganda. prezidentis meuRlem so-

fel-sofel ariga Casaxvis sawi-

naaRmdego saSualebebi. prezi-

dentma saakaSvilma ki “am saqmi-

anobisTvis” axalgazrdebs buCqe-

biskenac miuTiTa, rac garynili

urTierTobebis pirdapiri agita-

ciaa. parlamentmis mier miRebu-

li kanoni _ suboteqsis meta-

doniT Canacvlebis Taobaze, ro-

melic viTomda narkodamokide-

bulebis mosaxnelad ganxorci-

elda, sinamdvileSi misi gazr-

dis piradpiri xelSewyobaa. sin-

Tetikuri Semadgenlobis gamo,

metadonis Tavis danebeba SeuZ-

lebelia. sinTeturi narkotike-

bis legalizaciis programa, so-

rosis milionebis erT-erT wya-

roa. xelisuflebam am programis

gatarebaSi didi fuli aiRo.

metadoni narkoman fexmZime de-

debsac eniSnebaT, rac bavSvs, Ca-

nasaxSive narkodamokidebuls

xdis. es genofondze ganxorcie-

lebuli pirdapir Setevaa. saa-

kaSvilis iniciativiT, qeTevan

wamebulis moedans gadaerqva sa-

xelwodeba da “avlabris moeda-

ni” ewoda. metexTan mdebare,

“asiaTasi mowamis moedans” ki,

“didma evropelma saakaSvilma”

“evropis moedani” daarqva. aSS-

sadmi mliqvnelobisa da maameb-

lobis mizniT, Tbilisis erT-

erT uZveles quCas, saakaSvilis

brZanebiT, buSis quCa daarqves.

pirveli prezidentis- zviad gam-

saxurdias gamziris naxevars, ki

“alievis sanapiro”. sazogadoe-

bis cnobierebaze zemoqmedebisa

da gansxvavebuli azris devnis

mizniT, daarbies damoukidebeli

telekompania iberia. waarTves

kuTvnili aparatura da qoneba

da saxelisuflebo televiziebs

gadasces. daixura “telekompania

202” da “me-9 arxi”. Semdgomi

etapi mecnierebaTa akademiis ga-

nadgureba gaxda. “Tavisufle-

bis institutis” erT-erTma “be-

ladma” gigi TevzaZem, britanel

eqsperts SekiTxvaze _ “ra mi-

zans isaxavs ganaTlebis refor-

ma?” upasuxa: _ “saqarTveloSi

saxelmwifo ena inglisuri unda

gaxdeso”. (amis Semswre ramode-

nime profesoria) aqedan iwyeba

qarTuli enis “nacionalurad

devnac” saqarTveloSi. filo-

logma kote gabaSvilma satele-

vizio siuJetSi saqveynod ga-

nacxada: “saqarTvelos gerbze

“Zala erTobaSia” laTinurad

Tu ewereba _ uarze ar viqne-

bio”! merabiSvilis uwyebam, mo-

nasterSi damnaSavis Zebnis saba-

biT, daarbia dmanisis dedaTa mo-

nasteri da mrevli. cixeSi ma-

Sindeli ufrosis, baCo axalai-


aRar kmara, anu rogorc cxonebuli mediko mezvriSviliityoda _ aRar gveyoi?!


as brZanebiT sisxlSi CaaxSves

cixis bunti. (dRemde ucnobia,

daRupulTa raodenoba.) feriis

mTaze, saakaSvilis mier, saatraq-

cione adgilisTvis daangries

mSenebare eklesia xaSuris gza-

ze saakaSvilis piradi davalebiT

moTxares gzaze dadgmuli jvari.

(“Turq mZRolebs nervebs uSli-

so”. zugdidSi, viTom sportuli

kompleqsis aSenebis sababiT, ek-

lesiis aSenebis adgilze moTxa-

res dadgmuli jvari. (jvris

moTxris Semdeg, kompleqsis mSe-

neblobis dros sinkarma adamia-

nis sicocxle imsxverpla?!)

mxcovani mecnierebi da inteli-

genciis Rirseuli warmomadgen-

lebi, saakaSvilma “Carecxilebad

monaTla”. Zeglis avtoris- me-

rab berZeniSvilisa da arqiteq-

toris daukiTxavad, “iveriasTan”

adgilis gayidvis mizniT, daxer-

xes da Suagul trasaze gadaita-

nes daviT aRmaSeneblis Zegli.

mwerlebs waarTves xoStarias

mier anderZiT datovebuli mwe-

ralTa kavSiris Senoba. Rirse-

ul sazogado moRvaweebs waarT-

ves maTTvis aSenebuli kuTvnili

binebi. kompozitorTa kavSirs

waarTmeves maTi saxsrebiT agebu-

li dasasvenebeli saxli borjom-

Si. Tbilisis moqalaqeebs, adgi-

lis gayidvis mizniT, daungries

TabukaSvilis quCaze aSenebuli

kapitaluri sacxovrebel saxli.

samedicino kolejis bavSvebi da-

toves quCaSi da gamocdebis Caba-

rebis gareSe. gaauqmes samxedro

saswavlebeli. “sportis akademi-

as” waarTves fizkulturis ins-

tituti. gaiyideba uamravi saa-

vadmyofo, ganadgurda jandacvis

sistema. aeroportTan, aleqseev-

kis teritoriaze, amerikelebs

aaSenebines “baqteriologiuri

narCenebis” laboratoria, rome-

li epidemiebis antidotebic

aRar arsebobis gamo, gaJonvis

SemTxvevaSi, epidemia saqarTve-

losa da TurqeTsac moicavs. sa-

akaSvilis mTavrobis “xerxem-

lis”_ “gaRletili merabiSvi-

lis” uwyebis mier, daixvrita da

moklul iqna qarTuli genofon-

dis udanaSaulo axalgazrdebi_

girgvliani, robaqiZe, vazagaSvi-

li da bevri sxva axalgazrda. ba-

ramiZis ministrobisas Catare-

bul yvela specoperacias, mSvi-

dobiani adamianis sikvdili mohy-

va. misive davalebiT, daxoces

uiaraRo afrasiZeebi da amiT

mospes energokrizisTvis afrasi-

Zeebis mier gadamcemebis afeTqe-

basTan TavianTi kvali. saakaS-

vilma, Tavisi araprofesionali

samxedro ministrebiT moaxdina

qarTuli jaris demoralizacia.

danaSaulis dafarvis mizniT ki,

muxrovanis amboxebis speqtaklis

gaTamaSeba, rasac udanaSulo sam-

xedro pirebis dapatimreba, daWe-

ra da mkvlelobac mohyva. Tav-

dacvis ministrma oqruaSvilma,

gaauqma ergneTis bazroba, riTac

erToblivi vaWrobisas, os da

qarTvel xalxs Soris dawyebu-

li urTierTobis daTbobas Seu-

Sala xeli. xelovnurad ganaaxla

samaCabloSi “miZinebuli konf-

liqti”. ergneTis bazrobis sa-

kontroleblad ki Tavisi sanaTe-

savo da ojaxis wevrebi daniSna.

SeiaraRebuli jgufebiT atexili

srolebiT, samaCabloSi situacia

Tavidan gaamwvava. vaJkacurad me-

omari qarTveli biWebic swored,

oqruaSvilis provokaciuli sam-

xedro operaciebisas daaCoqes.

baia amaSukeli

ra sakiTxebze isaubres

,,qarTuli akademiis~~ wevvrebma

biZina ivvaniSvvilTan da ra ro-

li eqneba mocemul politi-

kur situaciaSi akademias, Te-

mis detalebze ,,saerTo ga-

zeTs~~ ,,qarTuli akademiis~~

wevvri nukri qanTaria esa-

ubra.

_ batono nukri, visi ini-

ciativiT Sedga Sexvedra da

ra sakiTxebze gaimarTa kon-

sultaciebi?

_ me, piradad, da akademiis

ramdenime wevrs Temur naneiS-

vils, Tamaz jologuas, gogi

qavTaraZes dagvikavSirdnen da

misvla gvTxoves. biZina iva-

niSvilTan misulebs saxalxo

krebis warmomadgenlebi dagvx-

vdnen. orive maTgani sazoga-

doebrivi organizaciis warmo-

madgenlebi varT da albaT,

amitom Sedga erToblivi Sex-

vedra.

_ batono nukri, Tu gqon-

daT biZina ivaniSvilis mxri-

dan raime konkretuli SemoTa-

vazeba?

_ konkretul gegmaze sau-

bari ar gvqonia. Tumca, sauba-

ri Seexo qveyanaSi Seqmnil si-

tuacias, moaxloebul arCev-

nebs, samomavlo gegmebs da

a.S. sabolood SevTanxmdiT,

erTobliv koordinaciaze,

Tumca, es rogor da ra for-

miT moxdeba jerjerobiT gar-

kveuli araa. axla imis dro

araa, vis sad, rogor unda,

mTavaria, yvela vecadoT, saer-

To saqmis gakeTebas.

batoni biZina acnobierebs,

ra pasuxismgebloba akisria,

kargad aRiqvams arsebul rea-

lobas da im Secdomebs, rome-

lic TavisTavad axlavs pro-

cess. misi misamarTiT xSirad

mogvismenia mowodebebi, amas

Tu ar miiRebs, amas Tu ar ga-

akeTebs, warmatebas ver miaR-

wevs da a.S. Tumca, es yvela-

feri uxerxulad meCveneba,

radgan am adamianma qveynis ke-

TildReobisTvis piradi ke-

TildReoba daTmo. naTqvamia,

,,moednis gareT yvela pelea~,

amitom garedan rCevebis mice-

ma Zalian martivia.

_ batono nukri, dRes po-

litikur asparezze biZina

ivaniSvili mTavar politikur

moTamaSed ganixileba. Tqven

ras fiqrobT, ivaniSvilsa da

mis gunds SeuZlia politiku-

ri klimatis formireba?

_ am etapze msjeloba, ka-

rgia Tu cudi ivaniSvilis ga-

remocva, absurdulad mimaCnia.

yvelaferi TavisTavad ramdeni-

me TveSi gairkveva. Tumca, rac

ufro meti nihilisturi gan-

wyoba iqneba Semotanili, es

saerTo process mniSvnelov-

nad daazaralebs.

samwuxarod, Dopoziciur

flangze biZina ivaniSvili

erTaderT politikur moTama-

Sed iTvleba. swored man da

mis irgvliv gaerTianebulma

garemocvam winaaRmdegoba unda

gauwios mixeil saakaSvilis

reJims. mogexsenebaT, ivaniSvi-

lis gamoCenamde politikuri

veli SeiZleba iTqvas, gaCana-

gebuli, politikuri procese-

bi ki mTlianad Camkvdari iyo.

politikaSi mis gamoCenam sa-

zogadoebaSi axali muxti,

emocia gaaCina. Tumca, es emo-

cia TandaTanobiT ganelda da

axla xalxi ukve molodinis

reJimSia. mTavaria, xalxi ma-

yureblis rolSi ar aRmoCn-

des.

_ imisTvis, rom xalxi

procesis miRma ar aRmoCndes,

ramdenad aucilebelia ivaniS-

vilis mxridan ufro mkafio

nabijebis gadadgma. Tundac

sakmao xans Wianurdeba poli-

tikuri partiis Camoyalibebis

procesi?

_ partiis formireba eta-

pobrivad mimdinareobs. regio-

nebSi ixsneba ofisebi, cota

xanSi gaixsneba televiziac.

amitom biZina ivaniSvili fini-

Samde etapobrivad midis. me,

piradad, xSirad minaxavs dab-

neuli politikosebi, igive

noembris, aprilis movlenebis

dros, Tumca, biZinas amdagvari

araferi etyoba. igi situaci-

as absoluturad adekvaturad

afasebs, xvdeba imasac, ra ga-

mosdis da ra ara. baton biZi-

nas gaTvlili aqvs procesi ra

rogor unda ganaviTaros, ami-

tom ufro aqtiur reJimze,

albaT, april-maisSi gadava.

_ batono nukri, Tqven ra

molodini gaqvT arCevneban da-

kavSirebiT. fiqrobT, rom ar-

Cevnebis gziT Seicvleba xeli-

sufleba?

_ politikur asparezze

biZina ivaniSvili rom ar yo-

filiyo, Tavisi avtorite-

tiT, qvelmoqmedebiT, arCevneb-

ze saubari zedmeti iqneboda.

amitom am etapze arsebobs

Sansi arCevnebis gziT Seicva-

los xelisufleba. Tumca, ami-

saTvis aucilebelia saarCevno

manqanis daqoqva.

biZina ivaniSvili Tavad

aris prodiuseri, reJisori,

scenaristi da icis rodis ra

moimoqmedos.

quCaSi SeiZleba yvela ga-

erTiandes, magram politikur

blokSi yvela ver gawevrian-

deba, radgan qaosi iqneba. yve-

las moenaxeba raRac adgili

imisTvis, rom politikuri

procesebis formirebaSi

wvlili Seitanon.

_ opoziciis danawevreba

xom ar gamoiwvevs eleqtora-

tis dabnevas. mogexsenebaT,

ivaniSvilis saarCevno blokis

garda saubaria mesame centris

Camoyalibebaze?

_ mgonia, xalxi swor ar-

Cevans gaakeTebs. maT kargad

ician, vis Seswevs Zala daa-

marcxos xelisufleba. Tumca,

opozicias win Zalian daZabu-

li, seriozuli brZola elo-

deba, radgan xelisufleba ab-

soluturad yvela resurss

gamoiyenebs mowinaaRmdegis da-

sasusteblad.

_ qalbatoni nino burja-

naZe ambobs, rom quCis aqcie-

biT jer unda Seicvalos sa-

arCevno garemo da Semdeg Ca-

tardes demokratiuli arCev-

nebi. ivaniSvili ki arsebul

saarCevno garemos pirobebSic

arCevnebis momxrea. Tqven ro-

mel pozicias emxrobiT?

_ Cven didi xani videqiT

quCaSi, Tumca, ra Sedegebi mi-

viReT, yvelam kargaT viciT.

opoziciuri ,,rviani~, ,,eqvsia-

ni~ swored saarCevno garemos

gasaumjobeseblad Seiqmna,

Tumca, Sedegis miuRwevlad

maleve daiSala. xelisufleba,

rom saarCevno garemos ar ga-

uumjobesebs naTelia, piriqiT

opociziis Sesaviwroveblad,

dRiTidRe savalaloL kanonebs

iReben. mosaxleoba Tu arCev-

nebze uSiSrad miva, Sedegi

aucileblad, dadebiTi iqneba.

sasurvelia Tu quCis aqciebi

mxolod winaarCevno kampaniis

farglebSi Catardeba, radgan

Sedegi gacilebiT adekvaturi

iqneba. xelisufleba im SemTx-

vevaSi Tu arCevnebs gaayal-

bebs, cxadia, xalxi sakuTari

xmebis dasacavad yvela meTo-

diT ibrZolebs.

_ batono nukri, saubarSi

aRniSneT, rom biZina ivaniS-

vils procesebis ganviTarebis

gegma gawerili aqvs. rogor

fiqrobT, igi ganixilavs geg-

mas imis Sesaxeb, rom, SesaZ-

loa arCevnebi Semodgomis nac-

vlad gazafxulze Catardes?

_ gazafxulze arCevnebis

Catarebas Tu apireben, wesiT

aqamde gamoacxadebdnen. piri-

qiT, maT ar awyobT arCevnebis

Catareba gazafxulze, radgan

fiqroben, rac dro gava, xal-

xi ufro daiTrguneba.

_ rogor fiqrobT, biZina

ivaniSvili aris bolo Sansi

seriozuli politikuri cvl-

ilebebis gansaxorcieleblad?

_ RmerTma dagvifaros, rom

bolo Sansze vilaparakoT,

magram biZina ivaniSvili am

etapze procesebis seriozul

warmmarTTvelad iTvleba, ro-

melsac sazogadoebis umravle-

soba mxardaWeras ucxadebs.

_ batono nukri, rogor

fiqrobT, aqamde politikuri

cvlilebebi imitom ar gan-

xorcielda, rom lideris

probleba gvqonda?

_ liderTa jgufebi sa-

qarTveloSi yovelTvis arse-

bobda, magram aseTi upirobo

avtoriteti aqamde ar gvyo-

lia. laparaki imaze, rom igi

wlebis ganmavlobaSi emzade-

boda politikaSi Semosasvle-

lad absurdulad mimaCnia. igi

maSin Semovida politikur as-

parezze, roca dainaxa, rom

opoziciam sakuTari Tavi amo-

wura da procesebi stagnaci-

isken wavida. amitom ivaniSvi-

lis gadawyvetileba dasafase-

belia. mTavaria, procesi ned-

li ar iyos, kargad gaTvlili

da gacnobierebuli iyos Ti-

Toeuli nabiji, da aseT Sem-

TxvevaSi, Sedegi aucileblad

dadgeba.

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elizbar diakoniZe

_ azizies grandiozuli me-

CeTi rom Sendeba, yvelam vi-

ciT. es erTi ubedurebaa, mag-

ram axlaxan Zveli nacnobi da-

mikavSirda saxelisuflebo

wridan da erTi samwuxaro am-

bavi mamcno. Tan dasZina, Cemi

saxeli ar axseno Tu ara, sik-

vdils Tu gadavurCi, cixe ar

amcdebao. erTi sityviT, Tur-

qi, vinme ali alTuni, romlis

winaprebic, savaraudod, Zveli

mesxebi _ alTunaSvilebi iqne-

bodnen, saqarTvelosTvis cno-

bili adamiania, mas TurqeTSi

msxvili biznesi aqvs da saqar-

TveloSic surs gaSalos saq-

mianoba. mokled, es ali alTu-

ni ukve Sexvedria xalxs xe-

lisuflebis umaRles eSelo-

nebSi da apirebs TbilisSi

aagos 54 meCeTi islamisturi

mimdinareobis aRmsareblebisT-

vis. Segnebulad ar vTqvi, is-

lamisti morwmuneebi-meTqi,

radgan me, rogorc sasuliero

piri, islamistebs morwmuneebs

ver vuwodeb. morwmune niSnavs

marTlmadidebels.

__ mmaammaa eelliizzbbaarr,, rraammddeennaaddaacc

vviiccii,, TTbbiilliissSSii oorrii mmeeCCeeTTii aarr-

sseebboobbss,, kkiiddeevv xxuuTTiiss aaSSeenneebbaa

rraattoomm ggaaxxddaa ssaaWWiirroo??

_ ali alTunis argumen-

tiT, TbilisSi, Turme, 5000

Turqi cxovrobs, isini Tbi-

lisSi arsebul sxva islamis-

tur dajgufebebs ar miekuTv-

nebian da arsebul meCeTebSi

ver iloceben.

5000 mlocveli romdaetios, aseTi meCe-Ti rom aSendes, same-bis sakaTedro taZ-ris sididis undaiyos, an minimum, sio-nis tola mainc daradgan aseT grandi-ozul salocavs veravaSenebT, 5 momcrozomis meCeTi mainc un-da avagoT, 1000-1000momlocvelma alahirom adidoso.

Cems nacnobs uTqvams ali

alTunisTvis, 5000 muslimis-

Tvis ki ara, arc im 1000-

sTvis ar agaSenebineben saqar-

TveloSi meCeTs, magis imedi

nu geqnebao. alis miugia:

Tqvens ministrebsfuli daanaxe da saku-Tar colebs mogyidi-an, am saqmeSi 12 mlnukve gvaqvs Cadebuli,xuTive meCeTis mSeneb-

lobisTvis miliar-dia saWiro da arc esiqneba problemao.

__ TTqqvveennii nnaaccnnoobbii ppaattrriiaarr-

qqTTaann rraattoomm aarr mmiiiiyyvvaanneeTT,, aamm

ssaaqqmmeeSSii ssaappaattrriiaarrqqoo rroomm CCaaeerr-

TTooss,, uummjjoobbeessii aarr iiqqnneebbaa??

_ SevTavaze patriarqTan

Sexvedra, magram TviTonve

miTxra, riyeze buda-bars rom

aSenebdnen, im adgilas am 5 me-

CeTidan erT-erTis ageba aris

dagegmili. sapatriarqom es

icis, magram, jerjerobiT, ra-

tomRac xmas ver iReben da az-

ri ar aqvs iq misvlaso. iqneb

Tqven da Tqvennairma sasulie-

ro pirebma mainc aimaRloT

xmao.

xSirad msayveduroben, pat-

riarqis mimarT Zalian kriti-

kuli xaro. rogor SeiZleba

mamis mimarT kritikuli viyo?!

Cemi sityvebi: `sapatriarqos

marTavs SiSi~ niSnavs, rom

patriarqis magivrad SiSi mar-

Tavs iqaurobas. yvelas kargad

gvaxsovs, gasuli wlis ivlis-

Si religiuri konfesiebis Se-

saxeb kanons rom moewera xe-

li, xelisuflebac da ekle-

siac gvaSoSminebdnen, savala-

lo Sedegebi amas ar mohyve-

bao. meti raRa unda moxdes, 5

meCeTs TbilisSi aSeneben,

erTs _ baTumSi, es

ambebi somxebma da-

iwyes da sul ma-

le axalcixeSi

gaxsnian somxur

grigorianul epar-

qias, aris amaze

laparakic.

s a b o -

loo Se-

degi ki

iqneba

i s ,

rom saqarTveloSi yvela kar-

gad iqneba Cvens garda.

mavani ityvis, ramdeni meCe-

Tic ar unda aSendes saqarTve-

loSi, sarwmunoebas ver Se-

macvlevinebso, magram gaixse-

neT ioane oqropiri. igi am-

bobs: vinc Sens sarwmunoebas

da ufals Seuracxyofs, gzaj-

varedinzec rom idge, yvrim-

lis cemac rom dagWirdes, Se-

utie da daicavi ufalio.

dRes Tu vinmes hgonia,

rom saqarTvelos xsna sar-

wmunoebis da RmerTis ga-

reSe SesaZlebelia, Zalian

cdeba.

axlaxan erTi

politikuri

gaerTiane-

b i d a n

SemomiTvales, raki religiuri

organizacia xarT, ver dage-

laparakebiT, Cven msgavs jgu-

febs ar vxvdebiTo, roca

brZola am fazaSia, ar SeiZle-

ba gamorCeva _ Sen modi, is ar

movides da a.S. Cemi azriT, ni-

no burjanaZis gamocdileba

yvela brZolas waadgeboda,

romelsac saakaSvilis winaaR-

mdeg vgegmavT. movuwodeb yve-

la politikur organizacias,

romelic Tvlis, rom saqarT-

velos mSeneblobaSi wvlili

unda Seitanos, gaverTiandeT,

CamovyalibdeT iseT Zalad,

rom angariSi gagviwion. Cven,

`wminda giorgis sadroSo~ an-

gariSgasawevi Zala varT, 30

raionSi sakuTari warmomad-

genlobebi gvyavs. CvenTan bev-

ria zviad gamsaxurdias momx-

re erovnuli suliskveTebis

adamiani.

__ mmaammaa eelliizzbbaarr,, mmeeCCvveenneebbaa,,

TTiiTTqqooss gguullnnaattkkeennii xxaarrTT,, iivvaa-

nniiSSvviillTTaann ggaaeerrTTiiaanneebbaa xxoomm aarr

ggssuurrddaaTT?? ssaaeerrTToodd,, rrooggoorr

uuyyuurreebbTT aamm aammbbaavvss??

_ me da Cemi organizacia

orive xeliT

mivesalmebiT bat-oni biZinas gamoCenas,namdvilad saqmianikacia da kargi mamu-liSvili, magram mas-Tan miRweva marTlacZneli aRmoCnda davSiSobT, Tuki `yana-Si~ samuSaod ar dag-viZaxes, mere lxinSicveRar mivalT da sixa-rulsac ver gavizia-rebT.

diax, CvenTan arian im ide-

is matarebeli adamianebi, rom-

lebic iziareben im azrs, ra-

sac Seewira zviad gamsaxurdia

da merab kostava da migvaCnia,

unda vidgeT iq, sadac qveyanas

sWirdeba.

__ mmaammaaoo,, mmeerraabb kkoossttaavvaass

eezzooss ggaayyiiddvvaassTTaann ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT

llaappaarraakkoobbddiiTT wweeRRaann,, eess aammbbaavvii

ssiimmaarrTTlleess SSeeeeffeerreebbaa??

_ diax, batono. es ambavi

ukve gadawyvetilia.

merab kostavasezo, romelsac dRem-de zogierTi namdvi-li mamuliSvili qudsmoixdis da ise Cauv-lis, male arabebs ga-daecema biznescent-ris asaSenebel adgi-lad.

dRes xelisuflebaSi Tavis

droze zviad gamsaxurdias da

merab kostavas ideebis bevri

gamziarebeli brZandeba, rom-

lebmac, samwuxarod, cdunebas

ver gauZlo, 30 vercxlad ga-

yida samSoblo da im sulcxo-

nebuli vaJkacebis saxeli da

ideebi. Tavisufali qarTuli

saxelmwifos Seqmnis magivrad,

zviadis da merabis yofilma

momxreebma policiuri saxelm-

wifo Seqmnes.

Tqven iciT, patarayviTel samarSrutoavtobusebSi saTval-Tvalo kamerebi romaris damonJatebuli?

vebkamerebi adamianebs akon-

trolebs, saubars iwers, mar-

Sruts imaxsovrebs. mZime vi-

Tarebaa qveyanaSi da minda

Tqveni gazeTis saSualebiT

ganvacxado, rom `wminda gior-

gis sadroSo~, brZolas ar

wyvets. uaxloes dReebSi Sev-

xvdebiT sxvadasxva partiebis

warmomadgenlebs, erTi mowo-

debiT _ gaverTiandeT da Ca-

movyalibdeT erTian centris-

tul Zalad, axla gaCumeba Ra-

latis tolfasia.

Tqveni nebarTviT, minda er-

Ti mowodebac gavakeTo:

`wminda giorgis sadro-

Sos~ saxeliT yvela opozici-

urad ganwyobil subieqts, po-

litikur partias, yvelas, vis-

Tvisac mniSvnelovania Cveni

qveynis momavali, gTxovT mob-

rZandeT prezident zviad gam-

saxurdias saflavTan misi da-

badebis dRes 31 marts 12 sa-

aTze saerTo saxalxo erTobis

gamosaxatavad.

iranda kalandaZe

saparlamento fraq-

ciis _ “erToba samar-

TlianobisaTvis” _

wevri jondi baRaTuria

ar gamoricxavs, rom

saqarTveloSi azizies

meCeTis mSenebloba zo-

gierTi maRalCinosnis

finansur interesebs

ukavSirdebodes. man Se-

sabamisi gancxadeba

plenarul sxdomaze ga-

akeTa. misi mosazrebiT,

am sakiTxis ukan zogierTi umaRlesi Tanamdebo-

bis pirisa da maTi ojaxis wevrebis Zalian sa-

eWvo finansuri interesebi ikveTeba. igi am ada-

mianebis vinaobis dasasaxeleblad mzad aris pre-

zentacia gamarTos da saTanado dokumentacia da

sajaro reestris amonawerebi waradginos

deputatis aRSfoTebas isic iwvevs, rom misi

informaciiT, azizies meCeTis mSenebloba baTum-

Si im adgilas igegmeba, sadac iunkerebis safla-

via.

“erisTvis amaze meti sulSi CafurTxeba ra

unda iyos?! azizie erT-eerT sisxliani dampyro-

beli iyo da is qarTuli okupaciis simboloa.

misi saxelobis meCeTis mSeneblobas saqarTvelo-

Si Cven ar davuSvebT”, - aRniSna jondi baRaTu-

riam.

`medianiusi~

baRaTuria ar gamoricxavs, rom azizies meCeTis mSenebloba romelime maRalCinosnis interesia

TbilisSi xuTi didimeCeTi Sendeba?!


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eebbiiss~~ eekkoonnoommiikkuurrii mmiimmaarrTTuulleebbiiss

xxeellmmZZRRvvaanneellii levan kalanda-Ze::

__ lleevvaann,, pprreezziiddeennttmmaa 22001122 wwee-

llii jjaannddaaccvviiss xxeellmmiissaawwvvddoommoobbiiss

ggaaddaammwwyyvveett wwllaadd ggaammooaaccxxaaddaa.. rraa

vviiTTaarreebbaaaa rreeaalluurraadd??

_ prezidents axali araferi

uTqvams. man ilaparaka im yvela-

ferze, razec wlebia saubrobs,

axali mesiji, axali iniciativa,

axleburad danaxuli problema,

mas, praqtikulad, ar gauJRerebia.

tradiciad Camoyalibda _ pre-

zidenti garkveul problemas afiq-

sirebs, magram konkretul gegmas

arasdros sTavazobs sazogadoebas.

mqonda molodini, rom prezidenti

dokumentalurad gaweril gegmas

gaacnobda xalxs. samwuxarod, ase

ar moxda. am gamosvlidan ramdeni-

me mniSvnelovan sakiTxze gavamaxvi-

leb Tqvens yuradRebas. pirveli,

mniSvnelovani sakiTxi socialur

sferos _ dazRvevis komponents

exeba. saakaSvili amayobs imiT, rom

Zalian bevri saavadmyofo avaSeneT.

es SeiZleba marTlac iyos saamayo,

rom regionebSi komfortuli, ma-

Ralteqnologiuri aparaturiT aR-

Wurvili saavadmyofoebia, magram

Cndeba kiTxva _ visTvis vaSenebT am

saavadmyofoebs? saavadmyofoebs va-

SenebT imisTvis, rom ubralod sa-

avadmyofoebis Senobebi gvqondes,

Tu imisTvis, rom avadmyofebs vum-

kurnaloT da konkretul Sedege-

bamde mivideT. samwuxarod, adamia-

nebs am hospitalur seqtorSi mis-

vla da mkurnaloba ar SeuZliaT.

es problema aqamdec iyo da verc

axla davinaxe misi gadaWris konk-

retuli gza. prezidentma axsena,

umweoTa da pedagogTa saxelmwifo

samedicino dazRvevis programa un-

da gavaZlieroT, ganvaviTaroT,

radgan warmatebuliao. gadawyvi-

tes es programa sazogadoebis sxva

fenebze _ pensionerebze, skolam-

deli asakis bavSvebzec unda gavav-

rceloTo. es kargia, Tumca, isev

im Secdomas vuSvebT, rac am prog-

ramis dagegmvis dros sawyis etap-

ze gvqonda. samedicino sadazRvevo

produqti, rac umweoebs da peda-

gogebs aqvT, Tavisi arsiT Zalian

kargia. anu adamianebs realurad

saSualeba aqvT eqimebs mimarTon da

garkveuli samedicino manipulaci-

ebi miiRon. magram Tu gaviTvalis-

winebT, rom mosaxleobis es kate-

goria SeWirvebulia, maT realu-

rad fuli ar aqvT, Cndeba dilemu-

ri situacia _ midian eqimTan, kon-

sultacias gadian, eniSnebaT mkur-

naloba da maT medikamentebis SeZe-

nis saSualeba ar aqvT. anu realu-

rad gamodis, rom es programebi

Tavisi arsiT wundebuli, xarvezi-

ania. mTavari mizani ra aris? _

adamianma imkurnalos, gamojanmr-

Teldes da ara, ubralod, moismi-

nos ra wamlebia saWiro misi mkur-

nalobisaTvis. dRevandeli progra-

ma iZleva mxolod aseT saSualebas

_ adamiani mivides eqimTan, daeniS-

nos mkurnaloba da morCa, amis me-

re maT aRaraferi SeuZliaT. roca

saxelmwifo am programas priori-

tetad acxadebs da sazogadoebis

konkretuli jgufisTvis pro-

duqts akeTebs, xelisuflebam unda

icodes, rom mxolod eqimTan misv-

la da medikamentebis daniSvna, am

adamianebisTvis SeRavaTi ver iqne-

ba. samwuxarod, wamali erTaderTi

saSualebaa, araurgentuli SemTx-

vevis garda, romliTac SegiZlia

imkurnaloT. anu pirveladi jan-

dacvis komponents es dazRveva ar

anazRaurebs. Sesabamisad, roca am

programas seqtembridan skolamde-

li asakis bavSvebze da pensione-

rebze gaavrceleben, aqac igive

problema dadgeba. jer erTi, Tu am

kategoriis adamianebis dazRveva

prioritetia, maSin ratom seqtem-

bridan, biujets xom 1 ianvridan

viRebT da maSinve unda amoqmedebu-

liyo es programebi. mTavaria ara

winasaarCevnod davarigoT polise-

bi, aramed moqalaqeebi realuri sa-

medicino servisebiT uzrunvelv-

yoT. es aris wminda wylis winasa-

arCevno kampania da uSualod sa-

parlamento arCevnebs ukavSirdeba.

meore mniSvnelovani sakiTxi, sam-

wuxarod, prezidents axlaRa gaax-

senda, rom, Turme medikamentebi sa-

Wiro yofila. am fenisTvis medika-

mentozuri mkurnaloba umTavresi

rom aris, es prezidentma aqamde ar

icoda? _ ra Tqmaunda icoda, mag-

ram...

__ mmaaSSiinn aarrCCeevvnneebbii aarr iiyyoo..

_ diax, Zalian swori SeniSv-

naa. medikamentebis iniciativasTan

dakavSirebiT, saakaSvilma Tqva,

rom Tanadafinanseba iqneba, magram

merwmuneT, umweo mosaxleobisTvis

50 procentiani Tanadafinanseba iq-

neba Tu medikamentebis komponenti,

saerTod ar iqneba Casmuli, amiT

araferi icvleba imitom, rom ada-

mianebs arc im 50 procentis ga-

daxdis saSualeba aqvT. isini upo-

vari xalxia, romelTac aranairi

Semosavali, elementarulad puris

fulic ki ar aqvs. Sesabamisad, sa-

xelmwifos mxridan 70 procentia-

ni Tanadafinansebac, arsobrivad

arafers cvlis. minda sazogadoebas

erTi konkretuli detali Sevaxse-

no, rodesac kontrolis palatam

am saxelmwifo programis farg-

lebSi kvlevis Sedegebi gaaJRera,

daskvnaSi miTiTebuli iyo _ sa-

xelmwifo finansebi araefeqturad

daixarjao. es ras niSnavs? _ rom

saxelmwifom gamohyo gacilebiT

meti Tanxa, vidre programis rea-

luri ganxorcielebisTvis iyo sa-

Wiro.

es wundebuli, naklovanebebiT

savse sistema Tavad am saxelmwi-

fom Seqmna da dazRvevis momxmareb-

lebis sadazRvevo uflebebi am qve-

yanaSi srulfasovnad daculi araa,

es swored saxelmwifos pasuxism-

gebloba da valdebulebaa. xeli-

sufleba gaurigda sadazRvevo seq-

tors, rom es ukanaskneli pasuxis-

mgeblobas aiRebda 100 saavadmyo-

fos mSeneblobaze da samagierod

xelisufleba miwodebuli servise-

bis xarisxs yuradRebas aRar miaq-

cevda. Sedegi saxezea, adamianebis

Zalian didi nawili ukmayofiloa

am programiT imitom, rom isini sa-

boloo Sedegs ver iReben. maT

sWirdebaT mkurnaloba da ara po-

lisis floba. polisi adamianisT-

vis gamojanmrTelebis da ara ubra-

lod saavadmyofoSi misvlis saSu-

aleba unda iyos. nomer pirveli

amocana pirveladi jandacva unda

iyos, radgan Tu adamians droulad

vumkurnalebT, mas urgentuli Ca-

reva ar dasWirdeba.

es problema gansakuTrebiT Tv-

alSisacemia, regionebSia qalaqSi

fuli met-naklebad trialebs. re-

gionebSi, praqtikulad, natura-

lur meurneobazea mosaxleoba

gadasuli da rasac moipoveben,

naturalurad cvlian saojaxo

meurneobaSi. vTqvaT lobio Se-

Saze, SeSa fqvilze icvleba da

a.S. fulis niSani saerTod ar

aris sofelSi. Sesabamisad,

soflis mosaxleoba sruliad

moklebulia SesaZleblobas am

axalaSenebuli saavadmyofoe-

biT isargeblos. bunebrivia,

mkurnalobis safasurs SeSis

an lobios mitaniT ver dafa-

ravs.

__ lleevvaann,, pprreezziiddeennttmmaa aaRRnniiSSnnaa,,

aaddrree mmxxoolloodd 4422 aaTTaassii aaddaammiiaannii

iiyyoo ddaazzRRvveeuullii ddaa aaxxllaa 22 mmiilliioonn-

zzee mmeettss,, aannuu yyoovveell mmeeoorree aaddaammiiaannss

ddaavvaazzRRvveevvTToo..

_ es, ubralod, cifrebiT mani-

pulirebaa. ki, gasuli saukunis

bolos marTlac iyo saqarTveloSi

40 aTasi adamiani dazRveuli imi-

tom, rom maSin qveyanaSi elementa-

rulad ar arsebobda samedicino

dazRveva. amis dRevandel mdgoma-

reobasTan Sedareba, cota araswo-

ria. piriqiT bolo sami wlis man-

Zilze samedicino dazRvevis maCve-

nebeli qveyanaSi, praqtikulad ar

izrdeba, saSualod 1 milion 6

aTasia. anu realurad bolo 3

wlis manZilze dazRveulTa rao-

denoba ar gagvzrdia, rac sakmaod

cudi maCvenebelia. prezidentis Se-

darebas rac Seexeba, aseTi logi-

kiT SeiZleba dRevandeli viTareba

me-18 saukunis bolos SevadaroT,

mosaxleobis dazRvevis maCvenebeli

maSin saerTod ar iyo, nulis to-

li iyo. mTavaria ara is, rom

dazRvevis maCvenebeli gasuli sau-

kunis bolos SevadaroT, aramed im

konkretul maCveneblebs, rac bo-

lo wlebis manZilze gvqonda. Cnde-

ba eWvebi, SeZlebs Tu ara saxelm-

wifo, pirobiTad, am 2 milioni mo-

saxlis dazRvevas. albaT, SeZlebs,

anu biujets amis resursi aqvs,

mTavaria, politikuri neba iyos da

xelisuflebam realurad ganaxor-

cielos mcire mTavrobis anu qam-

rebis SemoWeris politika da ga-

urkveveli esTetikuri proeqtebis

nacvlad, is konkretuli socialu-

ri programebi daafinansos, rome-

lic mosaxleobis samedicino mom-

saxurebaze wvdomas gazrdis, mag-

ram arc esaa mTavari, aramed is,

rom samedicino servisi xarisxiani

iyos. Tu gagrZelda isev ise da

dazRvevaSi medikamentozuri mkur-

naloba ar CaerTo, igive proble-

mis winaSe dadgebian seqtemberSi

dasazRvevi pensionerebic da sko-

lamdeli asakis bavSvebic, rac um-

weoebs aqvT.

__ aannuu TTaannaaddaaffiinnaannsseebbiiTT mmeeddiikkaa-

mmeenntteebbiiss SSeeZZeennaa ggaammoossaavvaallii aarr

aarriiss.. wweeRRaann aaxxsseennee,, rroomm mmnniiSSvvnneelloo-

bbaa aarr aaqqvvss rraammddeenn pprroocceennttiiaannii iiqq-

nneebbaa TTaannaaggaaddaaxxddaa,, rraaddggaann aamm kkaatteeggoo-

rriiaass ffuullii ssaaeerrTToodd aarr aaqqvvss..

_ diax. Cven SeiZleba hipoTe-

turad davuSvaT, vendoT prezden-

tis sityvebs, rom es yvelaferi

gaTvaliswinebuli iqneba, magram

amisaTvis saWiroa konkretuli

programa arsebobdes, romelic sam-

wuxarod, ar arsebobs. gasuli

wlis dekembridan daiwyo saubari

am programis Sesaxeb, Tumca, igi

jer gakeTebuli ar aris. sazoga-

doebas, eqspertebs, politikur

wreebs am etapze marCieloba

uwevT, Tu rogori iqneba es prog-

rama, radgan realurad jer arafe-

ri devs. aqve, aris kidev erTi

mniSvnelovani sakiTxi _ mTavroba

iZaxis, rom es programa 1 seqtem-

bridan amoqmeddeba, arada es Tan-

xebi biujetSi, samwuxarod, jer

asaxuli ar aris. axali biujeti

ianvarSi miviReT da maSin savsebiT

SesaZlebeli iyo am Tanxebis biu-

jetSi gawera, Tumca, ase ar mox-

da.

__ ggaammooddiiss,, rroomm pprreezziiddeennttii mmoo-

ssaaxxlleeoobbaass aattyyuueebbss,, TTuu rriiss xxaarrjj-

zzee uunnddaa ggaammooiiyyooss eess TTaannxxeebbii??

_ raRacis xarjze unda gamoi-

yos, magram asaxuli ar aqvT. sare-

zervo fondidanac veranairad ver

gamoiyofa imitom, rom preziden-

tis sarezervo fondi mxolod 50

milioni laria, rac am programas

aranairad ar eyofa. anu damatebi-

Ti resursia saWiro, magram am

etapze es sabiujeto kanonmdeblo-

baSi asaxuli ar aris. kidev erT

detalze minda gavamaxvilo yu-

radReba, rac pensionerebis dazR-

vevas exeba. 1 seqtembridan xeli-

suflebam, ratomRac gadawyvita,

rom mxolod 67 wlidan pensione-

rebisTvis unda gasces sadazRvevo

polisi. vkiTxulob _ ra daaSaves

65 wlis pensionerebma, isini ada-

mianebi ar arian? pirdapir vacxa-

deb, es diskriminaciuli midgomaa.

faqtobrivad, 65-dan 67 wlamde

pensionerebi haerSi arian gamoki-

debulni. xelisuflebam 2 weli

moipara, man es adamianebi moipara.

65-dan 67 wlamde pensionerebi ris

mixedviT gamoTiSa am programas? _

pasuxi martivia _ amiT didi fu-

li dazoges.

__ pprreezziiddeennttmmaa bbrrZZaannaa,, yyoovveell 11

mmiilliioonn ttuurriissttzzee __ 1155 aaTTaass aaddaa-

mmiiaannss ddaavvaassaaqqmmeebboo.. TTuu ggaaddaavvxxeeddaavvTT

rraammddeennii uummuuSSeevvaarrii ggvvyyaavvss ((mmaaTTii

rriiccxxvvii ddaaaaxxllooeebbiiTT 660000-880000 aaTTaa-

ssiiaa)).. aamm ffoonnzzee rraammddeennaadd rreeaalluurriiaa

3300 mmiilliioonnii ttuurriissttiiss ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-

llooSSii SSeemmoossvvllaa ddaa mmaaTT xxaarrjjzzee mmoo-

ssaaxxlleeoobbiiss ddaassaaqqmmeebbaa??

_ me metsac getyviT, realu-

rad saqarTveloSi umuSevarTa

ricxvi gacilebiT meti _ 2 mil-

ion 5 aTasia. getyviT ra maqvs

mxedvelobaSi, xelisufleba Tv-

lis, rom soflad xalxi dasaqme-

bulia, rac realobas ar Seefere-

ba. soflad masiuri umuSevrobaa.

rac Seexeba turistebs, saqarTve-

loSi maTi Semosvla dasaqmebis

ganmapirobebeli ar aris, es sic-

ruea. xelisufleba gveubneba, bo-

lo sami welia saqarTveloSi tu-

ristebis raodenoba izrdebao, mag-

ram minda giTxraT, rom umuSevro-

ba am sami wlis manZilze araTu

Semcirda, piriqiT gaizarda. ase

rom, verc 1 milioni da verc 35

milioni turisti am problemas

ver moxsnis.

__ lleevvaann,, pprreezziiddeennttmmaa TTqqvvaa,, ssoo-

ffeellii aayyvvaavvddaaoo..

_ soflis ayvaveba traqtore-

bis, 30 lariani vauCeris darige-

biT ar xdeba. 1 heqtari miwis da-

muSavebas 700-800 lari sWirdeba,

risi saSualebac glexebs ar aqvT.

mTavrobam adga da 24 milioni la-

ri 30 lariani vauCeris darigeba-

Si daxarja. iciT, ra uqnes am 30

larian vauCerebs glexebma? _ 15

larad gayides. roca glexi 30

larian vauCers 15 larad hyidis,

es niSnavs, rom qveyanaSi 100 pro-

centiani inflaciaa. iciT ra xdeba

guriaSi? _ glexs mandarini ulpe-

ba. guriaSi davdivar xSirad mo-

saxleobasTan Sexvedrebze. Sexved-

risas erT-erTs vkiTxe, Tqveni

soflis qalebi ratom ar modian-

meTqi. iciT ra mipasuxa? _ Tur-

qeTSi ariano. ras akeTeben TurqeT-

Si-meTqi? _ mandarins hkrefeno.

warmogidgeniaT, aq mosavali lpeba

da ucxo qveyanaSi vkrefT manda-

rins. amitom, vauCerebis darigeba

xalxis motyuebaa. es igivea, kuWis

wylulze eqimma sodiani wyali

rom gamouweros pacients. glexi

xelgawvdili ar unda gyavdes, mas

ar sWirdeba arc saliarkis, arc

traqtoris, arc vauCeris darigeba,

aramed samuSao unda misce. adre

sofeli kvebavda qalaqs. axla,

xalxi maTxovrebad gadaaqcies. ax-

la, wamova baRebis, wamlebis da

a.S. vauCerebi. es am xelisuflebis

stilia. sofeli prioritetadaa

gamocxadebuli da am dros arafe-

ri keTdeba. Cemi azriT, pirvel

rigSi, sakredito resursis wvdo-

ma unda gaizardos da soflad un-

da moxdes agraruli riskebis

dazRveva.

Tamar SveliZe

rogor moipara mTavrobam 65-dan 67wlamde asakis pensionerebis Tanxebi?!

ratom gayides glexebma mTavrobis mier darigebuli 30 lariani vauCerebi 15 larad?!


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2012 wlis 9 marti

feisbukis omi _ quTaisis saguberniodangogosaSvils damarxviT daemuqrnen


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am dRes yvelasTvis naTeli gaxda, rom mixeil

saakaSvili arsad wasvlas ar apirebs. rogorc

TviTonve Tqva, yvelafers gaakeTebs nacionaluri

partiis gasamarjveblad da amis gakeTebas arCevne-

biT Seecdeba, raTa, kidev ufro legitimuri gaxa-

dos Tavisi Zalaufleba.

xelisuflebis Secvla, romelic drois kanon-

zomierebad meCveneba, mxolod da mxolod arCevne-

biT unda moxdes. ZaliT Secvlam rac mogvitana,

vxedavT ukve or aTeul weliwadze metia.

ar gamogviva mudmivad ganviTarebis umdables

safexurze mdgomi gamoqvabulis adamianebis msgav-

sad `sambrZaneblo teritoriis~ uxeSi ZaliT da-

patronebas Tu davuWireT mxari.

SurisZieba SurisZiebas Sobs...

Zaladoba _ Zaladobas...

2003 wels noembris TveSi datrialebulma

dramam, vardebis TanxlebiT, yvela dagvarwmuna

amaSi.

`vardebis revoluciis~ gmirebis didi umrav-

lesobac zviad gamsaxurdias mTavrobis damxobaSi

iRebda monawileobas. es is xalxia, vinac Tavis

droze normaluri ganviTarebis mTavari arteria

gadauWra da CanasaxSive amoSanTa ukeTesi momav-

lis yovelgvari garantia... ai, esaa STamomavloba.

amaTTan iaraRiT brZolas azri ar aqvs.

`Tavad didma~ miSamac xom Tqva _ Tu biWebi

xarT, arCevnebSi dagvamarcxeTo, Zalaufleba misia

da Cven ver vubrZanebT Cvens `moedanze~ gamovides.

saqarTvelom arCevnebze unda daam-tkicos, rom Rirsia normaluri yo-fis, rom msoflio ganviTarebaSistigmis adgili ar ukavia. saqarTve-lom unda daamtkicos, rom is aris ci-vilizebuli samyaros nawili da masangariSi unda gauwion...

Cven es unda movaxerxoT, radac ar unda dag-

vijdes.

Tu vecdebiT, rom arsebuli reJimi ZaliT Ca-

movaSoroT aqaurobas, msoflio Tanamegobroba

qarTvel xalxs `barbarosad~ monaTlavs _ ver

igues demokrati, evropuli orientaciis uwyinari

mmarTvelio. cxadia, TviTonac kargad ecodinebaT

TavianTi argumentaciis Rrma demagogia, magram

qveynidan gaqceul `demokratiis narCenebs~ gulSi

Caixuteben da Seecdebian kvlav saqarTveloSi ga-

mogzavnon Zalauflebis dasabruneblad, qveyanaSi

demokratiis kvlav asaRorZineblad. sisxlisRvras

kvlav sisxlisRvra, Zaladoba, daWerebi, terori

da SurisZieba mohyveba.

vici, ityviT: xelisuflebas am saarCevno ko-

deqsiT, kacitaZis daTvlili amomrCevlebiT da am

siebiT, im resursiT, rac gagvaCnia, ver movugeb-

To, magram, rogorc erT amerikul filmSia, Ta-

maSSi mogeba araa mTavari, mTavaria, rom am did

da mniSvnelovan ambavSi monawileobis ufleba ger-

go. Tumca, amasac Tavi davaneboT, xelisuflebam

da Cveni qveynis mtrebma unda dainaxon, rom sru-

liad saqarTvelo uars ambobs am moZalade xeli-

suflebaze, uars ambobs mtrobaze, CaSvebaze,

mkvlelobebze, garyvnilebaze da uars ambobs mSvi-

dobiani, civiluri formiT.

arCevnebSi saakaSvilma da misma xrovam pirwmin-

dad unda waagos maSin, roca saboloo Sedegebs,

savaraudod, aseve pirwmindad gaayalbeben...

dResdReobiT laparakia imaze _ arCevnebamde

gacilebiT adre gaeros damkvirveblebi rom Camo-

iyvanon saqarTveloSi, Zalian kargi iqneba.

gaeros damkvirveblebs xelfasebs uxdian is

uwyebebi, vinac saakaSvilis da misi reJimis mosv-

las saqarTvelos saTaveSi zarzeimiT Sexvda da

bolos `demokratiis Suqurac~ uwoda.

es ar aris guSindeli dRe da arc is ifiqros

vinmem _ ukve yvelam gaigo vinc aris saakaSvili

da ta-ta-ta-ta, magas imdeni moxvdeba, somxis

`barabans~ rom ar moxvedriao...

umaRlesi donis sxva Sexvedrebs rom Tavi da-

vaneboT, saakaSvilis vizitebs gaeroSi, leqciebs

demokratiisa da reformebis Sesaxeb msoflios

sxvadasxva qveynebSi, saakaSvilis bolo viziti ga-

vixsenoT aSS-Si. iq mas, obamam lamis iyo Tavze

xeli gadausva, xolo hilari klintonisa da mi-

Sas Sexvedra didi xnis unaxavi deda-Svilis Sex-

vedras hgavda.

klintonis bunebrivad zizRnarevi,agresiuli gamometyveleba miSas wi-naSe dedobrivi siTboTi da siyvaru-liT iyo gamTbari da siamayec aSka-rad etyoboda qarTveli xalxis sisx-liT gamZRari gvelis wiwilis Semxed-vares.

bolos da bolos vera qobalia msoflioSi yve-

laze axalgazrda lider qalbatonad aRiares da

daimedebuli gamouSves es armagedonis mxecebi sa-

qarTveloSi.

arCevnebze gaeros damkvirveblebi unda Camoviy-

vanoT da imaT gauwion monitoringi `miSa-saZage-

lis~ oinebso, _ aqtiurobs kvlav arasamTavrobo

organizaciebis jari, romelnic, isev simarTles

vityvi Cemo mkiTxvelo da dasavleTis `genmodifi-

cirebul ZuZus~ arian Cafrenili da Tav-kiseri

aqvT gayvizinebuli kai sma-WamiT...

ra vqna axla, fiSto daviWiro xelSi Cemi wi-

napariviT? ara mgonia, am brZolaSi Cemi `iaraRiT~

movigo, amitom vambob, arCevnebSi Tavganwirva, xmis

micema da mere mdumare protesti, yvelaze ukeTe-

si gamosavali iqneba-meTqi...

didi `brZola~ winaa, brZola arCevnebis dRes...

es omi aucileblad unda movigoT

* * *

daaxloebiT vici, ras fiqrobs am ambebze naci-

onaluri moZraoba, rogorc erTi mxare, ras fiq-

robs biZina ivaniSvili da koalicia, ras fiqro-

ben politikuri Zalebi, magram sazogadoebis kidev

erTi nawili ise fiqrobs, rogorc me.

am `napirze~ darCenilebi ase fiqroben...

amitomac davarqvi am patara werils `gaRma na-

piri~...

iranda kalandaZe

`gaRma napiri~


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_ ara, kanons ukuqmedebis Za-

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Zis moadgile movida da adminis-

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li ar movuwere, vkiTxe 19-ma Ta-

namSromelma miviReT bonusi da

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ocnebaSi~ gadasaricxad miviReT

Tanxebio. darwmunebuli var aT-

mag jarimas gamogviweren amis ga-

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Cemze 5-jer da metjer meti bo-

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bis mmarTvelebs. ratom ar aqvey-

neben am informacias sazogadoe-

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liRac bankis prezidentma, ro-

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es eWvi? _ ar ainteresebs imi-

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di bankebia. moiZieT informacia

bankis xelmZRvanelebis ra kate-

goria iyo an aris dRes xeli-

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kuTari deklaraciebis gamoqveyne-

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bis periodSi Tanxa weliwadSi

milions aRwevda. amasTan Cemi 102

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laZis struqtura, damaluli

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ivaniSvilisTvis Seqmnes. winaaRm-

deg SemTxvevaSi, ratom aintere-

sebT marto `qarTu banki~, mas

xom saqarTvelos kontrolis pa-

lata da ara saakaSvilis kont-

rolis palata hqvia. dainteres-

diT batono, ra xdeba sxva bankeb-

Si. msoflioSi pirvelad moxda,

rom banks xelisufleba Riad, ka-

nongareSe ebrZvis.

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gviwevs, `saqarTvelos banks~ da

sxva komerciul bankebs ki sabr-

Zolveli araferi aqvT, isini xe-

lisuflebis mier Seqmnil sauke-

Teso garemoSi cxovroben, bedni-

erad viTardebian. Tu `saqarTve-

los bankis~ prezidents Cemze

naklebi xelfasi an bonusi aqvs,

miTxran da Cemi xeliT Sevitan

biujetSi Cems wliur xelfass.

yvela sxva komerciuli banki sa-

saTbure pirobebSi viTardeba. maT

arc kanoni exebaT, arc normati-

uli aqti da araferi. rasakvir-

velia, xelfasebi da bonusebi

konfidencialuria, magram biZina

ivaniSvilis gacemul xelfasebs

mSvenivrad afrialebs kontro-

lis palata. dagvidasturon, ram-

den banks aqvs `qarTu bankze~ uf-

ro maRali xelfasebi, gamoaqvey-

non es informacia. SeiswavleT es

sakiTxi, qalbatono mogelaZe, Tu

Tanxebis gamoqveyneba sxva banke-

bisTvis konfidencialurad migaC-

niaT, is mainc TqviT, ramden banks

aqvs Cvenze maRali xelfasebi, an

TqviT rom aseTi ram ar arsebobs.

da maSin, me sasamarTlodan avi-

Reb nebarTvas da Tavad gamovaq-

veyneb Cemi bankis konfidencia-

lur informacias, mxedvelobaSi

maqvs is, rom zogierT pirs Cem-

Tan ericxeba bonusebi da vici

ramdensac iReben.

Tamar SveliZe

es iyo sakanonmdeblo doneze ganxorcielebuli teroristuli aqcia eqskluziurad, `qarTu bankis~ misamarTiT


internetSi



Tavis pirvel werilSi bi-

Zina ivaniSvili wers: `ratom

movedi politikaSi~? bevri

svams am kiTxvas da bevrs uk-

virs, me, warmatebulma biz-

nesmenma, yovelmxriv uzrun-

velyofilma adamianma, ratom

Sevagde yvelaferi sasworze

da ratom gadavwyvite poli-

tikaSi mosvla?

am kiTxvaze pasuxiZalian martivia, imi-tom rom, vxedav sam-Soblo mekargeba, xo-lo rodesac samSob-lo gekargeba, ara-fers ar aqvs fasi,arc qonebas, arc fu-ls, arc privilegi-rebul mdgomareo-bas.

es sityvebi Cvens konfor-

mizmiT daavadebul sazogado-

ebaSi SeiZleba vinmes xmamaR-

la naTqvamad moeCvenos da

swored amaSia Cveni yofis

ubedureba.

ar davmalav, sanampolitikaSi mosvl-as gadavwyvetdi, or-jer davapire saqar-Tvelodan wasvla.

visac ar sjera, SeuZlia

gadaamowmos da naxos, rogor

davabrune ukan SekveTili

TviTmfrinavebi, bolos saqme

iqamde mivida, rom ojaxis

wevrebma, Cemma meuRlem da

Cemma vaJebma miTxres _ Sen

SegiZlia waxvide, es Seni ne-

baa, magram Cven aq vrCebiTo.

Cemma ufrosma vaJ-ma, utam miTxra, TuSen ar waxval poli-tikaSi, maSin me wava-lo.

me da Cemma meuR-lem imas mivaRwieT,rom Cveni Svilebi,romlebic safran-geTSi gaizardnen,Cvenze ufro didipatriotebi da Cven-ze ufro kargi qarT-velebi arian. utassityvebi bolo wve-Ti iyo, ramac yvela-feri gadaswona dayvelafers Tavisiadgili miuCina.

me SevZeli, mejobna saku-

Tari TavisTvis, dameZlia

Cems TavSi SiSi, eWvi, skepti-

cizmi, axla ki jeri Tqven-

zea.

politikaSi imitom mov-

divar, rom mivxvdi, mxolod

qvelmoqmedebiT, finansuri

daxmarebiT da sponsorobiT,

calkeul sferoebSi investi-

ciebis CadebiT da lokaluri

RonisZiebebiT, qveyanaSi arse-

bul saerTo viTarebas da sa-

erTo mdgomareobas ver Sec-

vli, Tu yovelive amas qvey-

nis xelisufalTa politiku-

ri neba da mxardaWera ar

umagrebs zurgs.

me mivxvdi Cems Secdomebs

da mivedi im daskvnamde, rom

saWiro da aucilebelia, pir-

velyovlisa, Seicvalos po-

litikuri garemo qveyanaSi,

Seicvalos zogadad politi-

kosis da politikis arsis

da daniSnulebis gageba Cvens

cnobierebaSi.

me movdivar poli-tikaSi ara vinmes da-samarcxeblad, aravinmeze Suris saZieb-lad, aramed saqarT-velos TiToeulimoqalaqis gasamar-jveblad.~

am fragmentidanac kargad

Cans, Tu ramdenad rTuli da

mtkivneuli iyo biZina ivaniS-

vilisTvis uari eTqva wlebis

ganmavlobaSi mtkiced Camoya-

libebuli msoflmxedvelo-

bisTvis da politikaSi mosv-

lis gadawyvetileba mieRo.

es iyo sakuTari principe-

bis da msoflmxedvelobrivi

koncefciis, anu sakuTari Ta-

vis winaaRmdeg gadadgmuli

pirveli nabiji.

ra Tqma unda, mar-Tlac Znelia, 55 wl-is asakSi Zirfesvia-nad Secvalo cxovre-bis wesi da axal amp-luaSi axali saxiTmoevlino sazogado-ebas.

es xelaxal daba-debas hgavs, oRondim gansxvavebiT, romam SemTxvevaSi bio-logiuri mSoblebiar gyavs da sakuTari

Tavis mSobeli daSeqmneli TviTon Senxar.

es is dabadebaa, pirvelive

wamebidan oblobisTvis rom

xar ganwiruli...

* * *

sanam biZina ivaniSvili

politikaSi movidoda, mas

biznesmens da qvelmoqmeds

eZaxdnen, Tumca, rasac iva-

niSvili akeTebda, rogorc

qvelmoqmedi, aSkarad cilde-

boda qvelmoqmedebis sferos

da im masStabebs, rasac qvel-

moqmedebis msoflio

istoria icnobs.

biZina ivaniSvili

ara mxolod qvelmoq-

medebas eweoda, ara-

med

man itvirTakrizisul si-tuaciaSi myo-fi qarTulisaxelmwifosgadarCenis das a x e l m w i f os t r u q t u r e -bis aSeneba-gaZlierebismisia.

es aris unikaluri

SemTxveva, rodesac

erTma adamianma saku-

Tari saxsrebiT mTe-

li saxelmwifos Se-

naxva da aRorZineba

gadawyvita.

ar darCenila arc

erTi dargi, arc erTi

sfero, romelic biZi-

na ivaniSvils ar daufinanse-

bia.

mis mier gakeTebuli saq-

meebis siisTvis, ubralod,

Tvalis gadavlebac ki Sokis-

momgvrelia, imdenad grandio-

zuli da masStaburia igi _

eklesia-taZrebis mSenebloba

da restavracia, armia, poli-

cia, skolebi, Teatrebi, musi-

kaluri ansamblebi, sporti,

jandacva, stipendiebi da Sem-

weobebi, sxvadasxva saxis so-

cialuri proeqtebi da a.S.


internetSi


biZina ivaniSvili biZinaivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg

biZina ivaniSvili: `wasvla mindoda aqedan da Cems gadawyve-

tilebas imiT vxsnidi, rom politikaSi mosvliT me TviTonve vang-

revdi Cems mierve savaldebulod miCneul normas, rom me araso-

des moval politikaSi da ar gadavuxvev im msoflmxedvelobas,

romelic avirCie.~


kerZo piri biZinaivaniSvili wlebisganmavlobaSi, faq-tobrivad, Tavad wa-rmoadgenda saxelm-wifos saxelmwifo-Si.

amitomac vTqviT zemoT,

rom is, rac ivaniSvilma sa-

qarTvelosTvis gaakeTa, ver

eteva qvelmoqmedebis aqamde

cnobil CarCoebsa da stan-

dartebSi.

is biznesmeni daqvelmoqmedi ki arasaxelmwifoebrivadmoazrovne adamia-nia, saxelmwifo mo-Rvawea, romelsacTavisi cxovrebis mT-avar miznad qveynismsaxureba dausaxavs.

ar aris es maRalfardova-

ni, paTetikuri sityvebi _ es

sinamdvilea, Tumca iseTi si-

namdvile, romlis dajereba

egoistur-meSCanuri instinq-

tebiT daavadebul da angare-

bian Cvens sazogadoebas gu-

lis siRrmeSi uWirs.

amitomacaa Cveni sazoga-

doebis erTi nawili zogjer

eWvis TvaliTac rom gaixe-

davs ivaniSvilisken _ ratom

xarjavs amden fuls ase uan-

garod? ra rjis? ra intere-

si aqvs?

komunistur-bolSevikuri

ideologiis wnexidan axla-

xan TavdaRweul adamianebs

mTlad bolomde ar esmiT,

rogor SeiZleba, ase iqceo-

des adamiani da sanacvlod

arafers iTxovdes?

sabWoTa periodis samoc-

daaTma welma, rogorc Cans,

Tavisi maxinji daRi daasva

Cvens cnobierebas da dagva-

viwya mTavari _ vin aris ada-

miani zogadad da ras unda

emsaxurebodes igi?

mecxramete saukunis qar-

Tuli mwerloba swored am

kiTxvas utrialebda da SeZ-

lebisdagvarad cdilobda

adamianSi, pirvel rigSi aRe-

zarda moqalaqe, romelic Ta-

vis upirveles movaleobad

qveynis msaxurebas miiCnevda.

saqarTvelo, ro-melsac ar hqondadamoukidebloba dasaxelmwifoebrioba,znemaRal, ganaTle-bul, Tavdadebul ad-amianebs unda gada-erCinaT, ufro zus-tad rom vTqvaT, amadamianebis kerZoiniciativebi unda Ca-nacvleboda saxelm-wifoebriobis arqo-nas, saxelmwifo st-ruqturebis ararse-bobas.

mravalma didebulma qarT-

velma itvirTa maSin saqveyno

tvirTi, magram maTgan yvela-

ze gamorCeuli roli mainc

daviT sarajiSvils ergo.

ar arsebobda qar-Tuli saxelmwifo,magram arsebobdadaviT sarajiSvili,romelic TviTon iq-ca qarTuli saxelm-wifoebriobis arao-ficialur struqtu-rad da institutad.

roca biZina iva-niSvilze vsaubro-bT, Tu vinmesTan Se-iZleba paralelisgavleba, upirvelesyovlisa, daviT sa-rajiSvilTan.

biZina ivaniSvil-ic, rogorc Tavisdroze daviT sara-jiSvili, TviTon mo-gvevlina, meore, ara-oficialur saxelm-wifod da sakuTarifinansebiT scada da-Zabunebuli qarTu-li saxelmwifos fe-xze dayeneba, rac na-wilobriv moaxerxakidec.

swored man uzrunvelyo

finansurad qarTul polici-

aSi, qarTul armiaSi, sxva sa-

xelmwifo struqturebSi Ca-

tarebuli reformebi.

_ sorosic me viya-vi da me vuxdidi xel-fass pirvel xanebSiam xelisuflebas. sx-va gamosavali ariyo. xazina carieliiyo. arsebobda sa-

xelmwifo manqanissruli paralizebissafrTxe, _ ambobsivaniSvili erTgan.

paralelurad ivaniSvili

xelfasebs da stipendiebs

uxdida SemoqmedebiTi da

teqnikuri inteligenciis

warmomadgenlebs, sportsme-

nebs, msaxiobebs, musikosebs,

aremontebda Teatrebs, aSe-

nebda skolebs, sportul ba-

zebs da moednebs, saavadmyo-

foebs, restavracias ukeTeb-

da istoriul Zeglebs anu

yuradRebis miRma ar tovebda

sazogadoebrivi yofis arc

erT sferos, arc erT mimar-

Tulebas.

faqtobrivad, es erTi ka-

ci aSenebda mTel saxelmwi-

fos, is iyo adamiani _ sa-

xelmwifo, oRond uCinari da

uxilavi.

man akrZala misi saxelis

xseneba, akrZala, esaubraT

mis ganuzomlad did Rvawl-

ze qveynis winaSe, riTac Se-

saniSnavad isargebles mta-

cebluri bunebis saxelisuf-

lebo gundis warmomadgen-

lebma.

ivaniSvili aSeneb-da, eseni ivaniSvilisaSenebuls sakuTargvar-saxels awerd-nen.

sxvisi amagis, sxvisi

Rvawlis miTviseba, ra Tqma

unda, qurdoba da yaCaRobaa,

magram amis gamo Cvens Zvir-

fas xelisuflebas sircxv-

ilisgan loya arasodes Se-

fakvlia...

mova dro, yvela-fers Tavisi saxelidaerqmeva, plagiate-bis da yaCaRebisgvar-saxelebi Camo-ifxikeba sxvis mieraSenebuli Senobebiskedlebidan, aRinus-xeba da iwereba qar-Tveli xalxisa da sa-qarTvelosTvis ga-keTebuli yvela sike-Te da maSin kidev er-Txel gaocdeba sa-qarTvelo, Tu raSesZlebia erT kacs,erT adamians, misTavganwirvas da Tav-dadebas.

* * *

_ vxedavdi, rom samSoblo

mekargeboda da amitom gadav-

wyvite politikaSi mosvla,

_ ase axsna biZina ivaniSvil-

ma Tavisi moulodneli da

uecari gadawyvetileba po-

litikaSi mosvlis Sesaxeb.

es iyo biZina ivaniSvilis

mier gadadgmuli pirveli na-

biji biZina ivaniSvilis wina-

aRmdeg, im biZina ivaniSvilis

winaaRmdeg, romelic katego-

riulad gamoricxavda yovel-

gvar monawileobas politika-

Si.

roca yvela imedi gadae-

wura, rom saakaSvils da mis

gunds raimes Seasmenda, iva-

niSvilma saqarTvelodan was-

vla gadawyvita.

aqve gavixsenoT, ramden-

jer dauyara Worebi xeli-

suflebam ivaniSvils _ iva-

niSvili saqarTvelodan mi-

dis, ivaniSvili saqarTvelo-

dan gaiqcao.

naxevari saqarTvelos aR-

mSenebel kacs gasaqcevi ra

hqonda, magram xelisufleba

amiT ivaniSvils mesijs ug-

zavnida da pirdapir eubnebo-

da _ unda waxvide aqedan, un-

da gaiqce, Torem, SeiZleba,

did xifaTs gadaeyaroo.

ivaniSvils ori alterna-

tiva hqonda: _ an marTlac

droulad gascloda aqauro-

bas an politikaSi mosuli-

yo...

baatoni biZinaa wers _

`̀waasvlaa mindodaa aaqedaan daa

Cems gaadaawyvetilebaas imiT

vxsnidi, rom politikaaSi

mosvliT me TviTonve vaang-

revdi Cems mierve saavaaldebu-

lod miCneul normaas, rom me

aaraasodes movaal politikaaSi

daa aar gaadaavuxvev im msoflm-

xedvelobaas, romelic aavir-

Cie.

maagraam didi sulieri Wi-

dilis Semdeg im daaskvnaamde

mivedi, rom vcdebodi...

... Secdomaa iyo, me vityo-

di, Raalaatis tolfaasi Sec-

domaa iyo, saaqaarTvelodaan

waasvlaa rom daavaapire. waasvlaa

erTiaa, maagraam mere raa piriT

undaa daabrunde ukaan, rocaa

Sens qveyaanaas im dros miaato-

veb, rocaa Zaaliaan uWirs.

rogorc giTxaariT, Cemmaa

uaaxloesmaa aadaamiaanebmaa daamaar-

wmunes, rom vcdebodi, Tumcaa

aarc imis uTqmelobaa ivaargebs,

rom Cemi ojaaxic, sxvaa qaarTu-

li ojaaxebiviT, ori wlis

gaanmaavlobaaSi CurCuliT ve-

laapaaraakebodiT erTmaaneTs,

maagraam erTmaaneTis imediT daa

TaanaadgomiT SiSi ZvlieT~.

saqarTvelo sama-rTlebriv da demok-ratiul saxelmwi-fos odnav mainc romwarmoadgendes, amsaxelmwifos moqa-laqes, am qveyanaSidabadebul kacs, ro-melmac miliard do-larze meti daxarjaam qveynis aRmSeneb-lobaSi, risi undaSineboda, an ratomunda elaparakaT er-TmaneTSi CurCuliTmas da misi ojaxiswevrebs, ratom undayofiliyo sariskoda saxifaTo am amag-dari adamianisTvisqarTul politikaSimosvla?

vaxtang xarCilava(gagrZeleba iqneba)


gvesaaubrebaa „„qaarTuli oc-

nebis“ wevri daviT faca-cia

- daTo, SeiniSneba Tu ara

Cvens qveyanaSi imis tenden-

cia, rom xelisuflebasTan

ara mxolod sicocxlis an

arCevanis uflebis dasacavad

giwevs brZola, aramed TiTo-

euli xis, baRis an kultu-

ruli Zeglis gadasarCenad?

cota xnis win policiam swo-

red kikviZis parkis gadasar-

Cenad gamarTul aqciaze da-

gakava..

- madloba am kiTxvisT-

vis, Zalian mniSvnelovania

xazi gaesvas imas, rom dRes

moqalaqeebi praqtikulad

daucvelni arian da abso-

luturad yvelaferi erTi

saxelisuflo jgufis xel-

Sia. kikviZis parks rac Se-

exeba, iq kanonis yvela nor-

ma iyo darRveuli. aranairi

mSeneblobis nebarTva, pro-

eqti, xeebis moWris Tu ga-

dargvis ufleba maT ar

hqondaT. miTumetes, rom es

adgili aris wiTeli zona

da ar SeiZleba raime tipis

zegavlenis obieqti gaxdes.

magram faqti jiutia, xeli-

sufleba Zaladobs, arRvevs

kanons yovel fexis nabijze

da rac mTavaria, amaSi poli-

cielebis gasvrac xdeba. po-

licielebs avaleben kanonis

darRvevas, danaSaulis Cade-

nas da amis Semdeg isini praq-

tikulad Tanamonawileni

xdebian. me, piradad, im poli-

cielebTan, romlebmac damaka-

ves, aranairi pretenzia ar

maqvs. pretenzia maqvs im uf-

rosobasTan, romlebic aseT

brZanebebs gascemen da aiZu-

leben rigiT policielebs

msgavsi danaSaulebebi Caidi-

non. minda giTxraT, imave sa-

Ramos, rodesac megobrebma

gaviseirneT qalaqSi, vnaxeT,

rom is operatiuli jgufi,

romelic Ram-RamobiT yarau-

lobda kikviZis parks, kino

„saqarTvelos“ maxloblad

Sejaxebuli iyo xes. sabedni-

erod msxverpli ar iyo, mag-

ram es iciT ras niSnavs? ka-

nonis winaSe Tu ara, raRacis

winaSe mainc ageb pasuxs da

am qveynad araferi ar rCeba

dausjeli. kidev uaress

getyviT, daaxloebiT sami

dRis Semdeg, „malaknebis“

xidTan ori operatiuli Ta-

namSromeli, manqanis seriiT

„jeo-010“, Zalian mZime al-

koholuri an narkotikuli

Trobis qveS imyofeboda. iq-

ceodnen ara saTanadod, igine-

bodnen, Seuracxyofa miayenes

gamvlelebs. piradad davreke

policiaSi, gancxadebac dava-

werine, magram aranairi rea-

gireba am faqts ar mohyolia,

garda imisa, rom es polici-

elebi saswrafod gaaqcies

iqidan.

es xelisufleba aris kri-

minaluri da misi Zalaufle-

ba damyarebulia mxolod or

rameze: es aris Zaladobrivi

reJimi da sabWouri tipis me-

dia-propaganda. 80-iani wle-

bis media-propagandac ki ar

yofila aseTi, rogoric ax-

laa. dRes daaxloebiT 50-60-

iani wlebis sabWouri propa-

gandaa. terori da mudmivi

gamorecxva adamianebis gone-

bis, es xdeba dRes CvenTan. me

ar vici sabolood ra SeiZ-

leba iyos am adamianebis, am

xelisuflebis Sefasebis fo-

rmati, magram faqti erTia,

yvela maTgani Tavisi danaSau-

lis sididis mixedviT agebs

pasuxs. imitom, rom Tu pasu-

xi ar ages am adamianebma, ma-

Sin qveynis ganviTareba SeuZ-

lebelia.

- rogor fiqrob, dausje-

lobis aseTi sindromi rom

ar iyos dRes qveyanaSi da Ta-

vis droze dasjiliyvnen

damnaSaveebi, xelisuflebis

mimarT amxela protesti gaC-

ndeboda?

- saqmec magaSia, rom ara.

es iyo jgufi, romelic am

tipisve danaSauls sCadioda

manamdec , ubralod Semdeg

movidnen xelisuflebaSi, Cai-

ketnen Tavis aTeulSi Tu

oceulSi da am tipis Zala-

dobiT gabedes yvelafris ga-

keTeba. igive teritoriebis

sakiTxi, qveynis strategiu-

li obieqtebis gayidva, sasa-

marTlos da konstituciis

sakuTar Tavze morgeba. is

molodini, rac xalxs hqonda

2003 wlis bolos, Sesabami-

si moqmedebebiT rom gamyare-

buliyo, anu dasjiliyvnen

damnaSaveebi, aseTi ram ar

moxdeboda. faqtia, girgv-

lianis saqmesTan dakavSi-

rebiT devs strasburgis

daskvna, uprecedento Tavi-

si SinaarsiT, radgan pir-

dapir avalebs xelisufle-

bas xelmeored gamoiZios,

dasajos Tanamonawileebi

da gamomZieblebi am saqmis.

magram rogor SeiZleba

adamiani erTi xeliT mkv-

lelobas sCadiodes da me-

ore xeliT Tavisive dana-

Sauls iZiebdes?! igive si-

tuaciaa robaqiZis, vaza-

gaSvilis saqmeebTan dakav-

SirebiT. saerTod ar eri-

debian TeTrze-Savis Tqmas.

37-iani wlebis teroria dRe-

sac, rasac me 21-saukuneSi

verafriT warmovidgendi.

- „qarTul ocnebas“ xSi-

rad sayveduroben imis gamo,

rom mas aqvs am xelisufle-

bis arCvenebiT damarcxebis

iluzia. miiCnevT Tu ara

Tqven amis garantiad swored

saakaSvili-oobamas Sexvedras

da aqve saakaSvilis frazasac

gagaxsenebT, romelic man par-

lamentSi Tqva, nu elodebiT

rom gudiani qali an kaci wa-

miyvanso..

- modiT, ase vTqvaT, es

aris erT-erTi faqtori, mag-

ram yvelaze didi garantia

sazogadoebrivi azri da sa-

zogadoebis molodinia. es

realoba dRes modis mxolod

da mxolod moqalaqeebisgan

da me ver warmovidgendi, rom

Cvens xalxs amdenis moTmena

SeeZlo. yvelaze mTavari ki

aris adamianTa is jgufi, ro-

melsac SeuZlia gaaerTianos

yvela da yvelaferi mxolod

erTi mimarTulebiT, es aris

qarTuli ocnebis asruleba

da CvenTvis saamayo, sasurve-

li qveynis aSeneba. winaaRmdeg

SemTxvevaSi, praqtikulad

Cveni yofna-aryofnis sakiTxi

dgeba. saakaSvili Zalian se-

riozuli msaxiobia, Tumca

amave dros is aris uniWo

msaxiobi, Tu mas niWieri ma-

yurebeli uyurebs. samwuxa-

rod Tu sabednierod, misi

iluziuri realoba dRes uk-

ve praqtikulad ganulebu-

lia. arc amerikaSi da arc

evropaSi mas seriozul ada-

mianad aRaravin aRiqvams, pi-

riqiT, saxifaTo da matyuara

adamianad miiCneven, rac misi-

ve bralia. sabednierod, biZi-

na ivaniSvilisa da „qarTuli

ocnebis“ gaaqtiurebis fonze,

dRes arsebobs realuri, uni-

kaluri Sansi saakaSvilis

gaSvebis. imitom, rom yvelas

amouvida ukve yelSi da yve-

la mixvda, rac xdeboda am

wlebis ganmavlobaSi. parla-

mentSi misi gamosvla kuTxe-

Si mimwyvdeuli Tagvis pozi-

cias hgavda, romelic ixti-

bars mainc ar itexs. dRes

qveynis ganadgureba xdeba yve-

la mimarTulebiT, socialu-

ri kuTxiT pirvel rigSi,

adamianur-kulturuli, su-

lieri da sapirispirod iqmne-

ba raRac amorfuli sistema,

romelic mxolod am oc kac-

zea morgebuli. Cemi mosazre-

biT es daaxloebiT im mdgo-

mareobas hgavs, rodesac did-

goris omis dros daviT aRma-

Senebelma ukan dasaxevi gza

Caxerga da dasva sakiTxi, ga-

marjveba an sikvdili. ra Tqma

unda, saakaSvili, misi bunebi-

dan, ara adekvaturobidan ga-

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Tundac imis msgavss, rac

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vi, ramac „qarTul ocnebaSi“

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ocnebas“, Rirebulebebi, mxo-

lod saakaSvilis gaSvebis

survili Tu fuli?

- iciT, albaT, Cemi biog-

rafiis nawili, yovelTvis

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tiuri da Cemi principebis

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principulad mniSvnelovania

da vxedav kidec, rom iq bev-

ri iseTi adamiania, romelic

msgavsi suliskveTebiTaa gams-

Wvaluli. amitom Cemi gadawy-

vetileba iyo saerTod upi-

robo, rom es aris is Sansi,

roca pirvel rigSi, ideis

garSemoa gaerTianebuli yve-

la. aseve im pirovnebebis gar-

Semo, vinc Tavisi RirsebiT

da zneobiT arian cnobilni

da ra Tqma unda, politiku-

ri struqturis, sadac ga-

mocdili da gausvreli ada-

mianebi Sedian. yvelaze ver

vityviT, ra Tqma unda, amas,

magram modiT ase vTqvaT ra,

es aris realuri alternati-

va, romelic realur siste-

mas Seqmnis da qveynas daaye-

nebs swor relsebze. biZina

ivaniSvilTan pirveli Sexved-

ris dros me masTan aranairi

kiTxva ar gamCenia, erTader-

Ti imis imedi gamiCnda, rom

iberia marTlac gabrwyindeba.

nela-nela da nabij-nabij amis

miRweva SesaZlebelia, Tu am

saqmes Rirseuli da gamocdi-

li adamianebi Caibareben.

- daTo, axalgazrdul

frTas xelmZRvanelob, ra

gegmebi gaqvT da ra gzebiT

apirebT axalgazrda Taobis

ufro metad gaaqtiurebas?

- pirvel rigSi, minda

vTqva, rom CvenTan, axalgazr-

dul frTaSi Zalian Tavisu-

fali da megobruli garemoa.

anu yvela axalgazrdas, vinc

ki mova, unda hqondes imis

SesaZlebloba, rom gamoavli-

nos sakuTari Tavi da rac

mTavaria, Seikras im garemo-

Si, romelSic yvelani erTad

varT. Zalian bevria aqtiuri

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mniSvnelovani amis swori ad-

ministrirebaa. axalgazrdu-

li energia yvelaze mniSvne-

lovani Zalaa. me mainc mgo-

nia, rom simbiozi unda mox-

des axalgazrdul energiasa

da asakovani xalxis gamocdi-

lebas Soris. am rva wlis

ganmavlobaSi axalgazrda Ta-

oba TiTqmis gariyuli iyo da

axla es ukve dauSvebelia. ma-

galiTad, guSin Sinagan saqme-

Ta saministrosTan studente-

bis mier organizebuli aqcia

„me var Tavisufali moqala-

qe“ gaimarTa, romelsac Cvenc

gamovucxadeT solidaroba.

Zalian mniSvnelovani mesijia

yvelasTvis is, rom Cven varT

Tavisuflebi da veraferi ver

gagvaCerebs, veranairi zewo-

la an finansuri Tu politi-

kuri berketi. Cven gvinda Ta-

visufleba da am Tavisufle-

bisTvis vibrZolebT.

lela arabuli

gamarjvebisTvis aucilebelia, rom axalgazrduli energia da ufrosiTaobis gamocdileba erT Zalad Seikras


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germanel-ebraelma revolucionerma

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iudevelebis mier SurisZiebis simbo-

lod gamoacxades dedakaci iudevelis

mier araiudevel mamakacze gamarjvebis

aRsaniSnavad.

erTi sityviT, 1910 wels daniaSi,

qalaq kopenhagenSi masonur-socialis-

tur yrilobaze 8 marti qalTa dRed

aRiares.

1917 wels xazari-masonebis mier

marTuli rusuli revoluciebis ga-

momwvevi pirveli naperwkali qalTa

dRisadmi miZRvnili xalxmravali ga-

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mTavari iniciatori klara cetkini

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bi amoZravebda.

igi saqsoniaSi daibada 1857 wlis 5

ivliss.

klara xazars iosif cetkinTan uka-

nono kavSirisgan ori vaJiSvili eyo-

la, magram, rodesac 1899 wels iosif

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am qalbatonTan stumrobiT bi-

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xalxis azriT

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e.w `tradiciul~ narkoti-

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afTiaqebSi mravladaa garkve-

ul daavadebaTa samkurnalo

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es, yvelaferi, rac mza pre-

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`lirika~ (`prega-

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Tu mkiTxvels. `lirika~ _

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saTvis araerTi preparatia ama-

ve daniSnulebis, magram prin-

cipulad ar davasaxeleb). Tu

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sando wyarom `saerTo ga-

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macia miawoda im gegmis Sesaxeb

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gareSec aseTi ram momxdariyo.

vasaZec Seqmnida politikur par-

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maRalCinosnis. ivnis-ivlisSi

ugulava da gulua israelSi ram-

denjerme Sexvedrian erTmaneTs,

sadac midioda konkretuli sau-

bari Tu rogor unda daelagebi-

naT politikuri situacia da ga-

nexorcielebinaT garkveuli po-

litikuri gegmebi. saboloo jam-

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erTiandebodnen Zalze did poli-

tikur TamaSSi, rom moexdinaT

politikuri sivrcis 80%-is da-

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xalxs axal imeds miscemdnen,

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axal sicocxles, romelTac Se-

moikrebdnen garSemo da ugulava

prezidenti gaxdeboda. yovel

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hqondaT. nacmoZraobisTvis gulua

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lis gamoCenis Semdeg politiku-

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romelic ugulavas ambiciebsa da

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axla suraTi Seicvala da levan

vasaZeTi qristian-demokratebis

gaZlierebas, maTTvis finansuri

resursis mozidvas cdiloben.

rac Seexeba guluas proeqts.

wyaros azriT, gulua imaSi Sec-

da, rom praqtikulad moumzadeb-

lad, yovelgvari piarisa da Se-

fuTvis gareSe daaanonsa seqtem-

berSi partiis Seqmna da erTgva-

ri prezentaciac ki gaakeTa. vis-

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gaxarjoTo, magram, rogorc Cans,

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hqonda xelisuflebasTan, amito-

mac axla misma partiam opozici-

isTvis xmebis warTmevis instru-

mentis funqciebi SeiZina. gulua

samegreloSi sakmaod didi avto-

ritetiT sargeblobs, radgan mo-

axerxa im xalxis Semokreba, rom-

lebic raionebsa da soflebSi

xalxis pativiscemiTa da siyvaru-

liT sargeblobs. mas finansura-

dac aranairi problema ar eqmne-

ba, vinmesTvis fulis micemas ar

ukrZalaven, kontrolis palata

ivaniSvilisgan gansxvavebiT, amas

politikur mosyidvad ar uTv-

lis. amitomac gulua cdilobs

opoziciurad moazrovne adamiane-

bis garkveuli segmenti Tavis

garSemo Semoikribos.

ivaniSvilis gamoCenamde gu-

luam da misma gundma swor taq-

tikas mimarTes, TavianTi realu-

ri warmomavloba da miznebi saTa-

nadod rom SeefuTaT. sanam `ga-

naxlebuli saqarTvelos~ prezen-

tacia moxdeboda, daaxloebiT

ori Tvis ganmavlobaSi sakmaod

aqtiurad midioda saubari erT-

erT sakalaTburTo gundze, Tu

rogor Seuwyvites mas dafinanse-

ba - aseT karg, Zalze perspeqti-

ul gunds daSla emuqrebao. mere

uceb aRmoCnda, rom, Turme, gu-

lua afinansebda da mas es aukr-

Zales. es iyo erT-erTi pirveli

informacia, romelic guluas

erovnul kacad warmoCenas emsa-

xureboda, romelsac imis gamo

rom qveynis gadarCenis survili

aqvs, aseTi perspeqtiuli saka-

laTburTo gundis dafinansebasac

ki ukrZalaven. mere iyo misi par-

tiis prezentacia, ris Semdegac

yvelaferi gaCerda. rogorc Cans

viRaceebma iynoses rom politika-

Si raRac xdeboda. ivaniSvilis

gamoCenis Semdeg guluas gundi

Tavidan daibna, magram, rogorc

Cans mere gadawyvites opoziciis-

Tvis xmebis warTmevis funqcia

aeRoT, risTvisac seriozuli fi-

nansebi iqna moZiebuli. Cveni wya-

ros azriT, aq ugulavas da sava-

raudod benduqiZis finansuri re-

sursebicaa CarTuli da pirvel

rigSi `qarTuli ocnebisTvis~

xmebis warTmevas Seecdebiano.

`saakaSvilis gundis wevrebi

an marTla debilebi arian, anda

Tavad saakaSvili uyris maT sak-

vebSi raRacas da adebilebs, rad-

gan aSkaraa, rom saakaSvili xe-

lisuflebaSi ver darCeba, is

verc premier-ministrad mova da

verc parlamentis Tavmjdomared.

misi qmedebebi da gundis Seguli-

aneba aris erTaderTi imis mcde-

loba, rom arCevnebamde miiyvanos

Tavisi gundi, axlave ar Semoef-

Svnas yvelaferi da ar daapiros

qveynidan gaqceva da fulis waRe-

ba, radgan mas Zalze didi resur-

si sWirdeba. misi fsiqotipidan

gamomdinare surs, rom, rodesac

prezidentis posts datovebs, is

xalxs uyvardes, rogorc Zlieri,

yvela sikeTis momtani, keTili

prezidenti. Turme, aseTi aRmSe-

nebloba saqarTvelos istoriis

manZilze ar yofila, mere ra,

rom TiTqmis yvelaferi biZina

ivaniSvils gaukeTebia, saakaSvi-

lisTvis amas mniSvneloba ar

aqvs, mainc TviTon ibralebs. saa-

kaSvilisa da ugulavas SeTanxme-

biT SeiZleba arsebobdes garkveu-

li politikuri TamaSi, rom saa-

kaSvili da kidev ramdenime ma-

RalCinosani mas prezidentobis-

ken gzas ukafavdnen. ivaniSvilis

gamoCenam nacmoZraobaze seriozu-

lad imoqmeda. manamde iq serio-

zuli Sida dapirispireba iyo.

isini fiqrobdnen, rom yvelaferi

dasrulda, meti aRaravin gamoCn-

deboda da yvelaferi maTi iyo.

mTavari iyo maT romelime gunds

moexerxebina Zalauflebis xelSi

Cagdeba. saakaSvilis Camocilebis

SemTxvevaSi es gundi erTianobas

verafriT SeinarCunebda, SigniT

daiwyeboda didi rRveva da erT-

maneTTan dajaxeba. ivaniSvilis

gamoCenis Semdeg es gundi metnak-

lebad Seikra. maT erTaderTi

Sansi darCaT, rom miSas bolom-

de Camoekidon da WirdebaT is

adamiani, romelic saakaSvils Ca-

anacvlebs da iqneba maTiani. ase-

Ti kaci pirvel rigSi ugulavaa~

_ acxadebs wyaro.

ani gogaSvili

poetis Tqmisa ar iyos, ver gaigeb, visi

violino vis roialSia

yvelas eqneba ufleba

iyos janmrTeli, mag-

ram srulfasovani

janmrTelobis SesaZ-

lebloba eqnebaT mxolod imaT

visac eqneba fuli. es xeli-

sufleba ar da ver SeZlebs

ufaso gaxados jandacva, sama-

gierod, iqneba, maRali klasis

klinikebi maRali klasis mo-

qalaqeebisTvis. ganaTlebis

sistemac SeinarCunebs dRevan-

del viTarebas, anu sawyis

etapze ganaTleba iqneba Sere-

uli _ naxevrad fasiani-naxev-

rad ufaso, xolo umaRlesi

ganaTleba iqneba fasiani. Za-

lian Raribebi ar wavlen sko-

laSi, magram ufleba eqnebaT

Sav muSad imuSaon. saSualod

Raribebi skolas daamTavreben,

xolo mdidrebis Svilebi

umaRles ganaTlebas miiReben

da Sesabamisad umaRles pos-

tebsac daikaveben, anu elitu-

roba gadacemul iqneba memk-

vidreobiT.

xmebi dadis baTumSi

aTa-Turqis Zegls

dgameno da marTa-

lia? ra xdeba Cvens

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prezidentma ”netbuki” ver

gaxsna. samagierod, gaxsna Tu

ara ”netbuki” bavSvma, pirve-

li, rac ”netbukma” Tqva pre-

zidentis danaxvisas, iyo

sityvebi ”es aris qaTami”! ra

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lis miRma, da, Tu ki es ase

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gvesaubreba parttia `ganaxle-

buli saqarTvelosTvis~ poli-

ttikuri sabWos Tavmjddomare

laSa gvasalia

_ gamoCnda cnoba, rom bato-

ni mindia gulua Sexvda vladi-

mer putins. xom ara gaqvT in-

formacia mTi saubari Seexo

Tu ara afxazeTisa da samaCab-

los, ltolvilTa da devnilTa

problemas?

_ vadastureb, rom batoni

mindia namdvilad Sexvda vla-

dimer putins da hqonda me-

tad nayofieri saubari. ba-

toni mindias gancxadebiT, pu-

tinma Tqva, rom aucileblad

gadaxedavs afxazeTisa da sam-

xreT oseTis sakiTxs. deta-

lebze saubrisagan amJamad Tavs

Sevikaveb. masmediis rigi war-

momadgenlebis mxridan ciniku-

rad da diletanturad iqna

warmodgenili es sakiTxi, rac

namdvilad ar waadgeba sasi-

keToT or qveyanas Soris ur-

TierTobas. swori, mozomili

politika unda gaxdes balavari

da Tavkide Cveni moqmedebebi-

sa. Cveni mimarTeba, rogorc

arakontrolirebadi teritorie-

bisadmi, ise sxva saWirboroto

sakiTxebisadmi unda iyos

zrda sikeTisa da ara carieli

sityvebis raxa - ruxi.

_ Tqveni azriT, sad Zevs

afxazeTisa da samaCablos saqar-

TveloSi dabrunebis e. w. gasa-

Rebi, evroamerikaSi Tu ruse-

Tis federaciaSi?

_ afxazeTisa da samaCablos

saqarTveloSi dabrunebis gasa-

Rebi ara sadme sxvagan, aramed

mxolod afxazeTSi, samaCab-

losa da saqarTveloSi Zevs.

Cven, qarTvelebi, osebi da

afxazebi imperiam sakuTari

aracnobieri aqtioris rolSi

Cagvayena da jeri Cvenzea, un-

da gamovideT am burusidan. ro-

gorc ver gaeqcevi sakuTar

Crdils, ise ver gaeqcevi sa-

kuTar istorias, warsuls,

momavals da masTan bediswe-

ras. Cveni warsuli am xal-

xebis erTian sasicocxlo

sivrced Camoyalibebis aTasra-

obebiT aRsavse istoriaa, rome-

lic mudmivad logikuri dasas-

rulisken, anu momavlisaken

iqneba miswrafuli, Tu Cven

gadavdgamT swor nabijebs da

istorias ar davupirispirebT

awmyosa da momavals, e.i. saku-

Tar Tavs Tavadve Tu ar gamo-

vuyvanT wirvas.

_ Tqven, batono laSa, par-

lamentSi muSaobdiT da rogorc

vici, nugzar wiklaurTan axlos

brZandebodiT. dRes, roca bato-

ni mindias mier Camoyalibebu-

li politikuri partiis erT-

erTi xelmZRvaneli xarT, ro-

gori TvaliT gicqers naciona-

luri partia?

_ Tavisufali adamiani gaxla-

varT da yovelTvis vakeTeb imas,

rasac guli mkarnaxobs. Tuki

ramisTvis mimiRwevia odesme,

mxolod keTilsindisieri Sromi-

sa da namusiani piroflianobis

Sedegad. batonma nugzarma da

sxvebmac, didebulad uwyian, Ce-

mi qveynisTvis saziano nabijs

arasdros gadavdgam da rom wamo-

vedi xelisuflebidan esec ga-

mowveuli iyo ara piraduli,

aramed qveynis ukeTesi momavlis

Senebis surviliT, romlis keTe-

bis saSualeba da SesaZlebloba

xelisuflebaSi namdvilad ar

aris. am xalxma amowura sakuTa-

ri SesaZleblobebi da gza axal

Zalas unda dauTmon. progresu-

lad da keTilgonierad moazrov-

ne Zalas. ise, simarTle giTx-

raT, CemTvis absoluturad ara

aqvs aranairi mniSvneloba imas,

Tu ras fiqroben es adamianebi

Cemze. Cven, yvelani Cveni arCeva-

nis megzurebi varT da Tavad

vagebT pasuxs sakuTar qmedebebze

- RmerTisa da istoriis wi-

naSe.

_ rogori tempiT mimdi-

nareobs politikuri partia

„ganaxlebuli saqarTvelosTvis“

dafuZneba regionebSi?

_ metad Cqari tempebiT. um-

ravles regionebSi ukve dafuZ-

nebulia organizaciebi da mimdi-

nareobs intensiuri muSaoba

partiis gasaZliereblad. gansa-

kuTrebuli mniSvneloba xelmZR-

vanelebis mxridan eniWeba kad-

rebis SerCevas. Cven movdivarT

simarTliT da vambobT simarT-

les. simarTle - WeSmaritebaa,

WeSmariteba ki ufalia upirve-

lesyovlisa. vinc am gziT ivlis

uTuod miaRwevs mizans. vnaxoT,

yvelaferi winaa.

_ nacionalebi Tqvens parti-

as ra xerxebiT uSlian xels.

_ gvewinaaRmdegebian yvela

saSualebebiT, rac maT xelSia

da es ramxela Zala da Se-

saZleblobaa, kargad mogexsene-

baT. magram sazogadoeba, Tu is

namdvilad monagrebulia cvli-

lebisaken yvelafers gaakeTebs

WeSmaritebis sasargeblod. is

xerxebi, romelsac iyenebs xe-

lisufleba politikuri par-

tiebis winaaRmdeg moZvelebuli

da dromoWmulia.

politikur sociolaogiaSi

arsebobs „sarkiseburi me -s ka-

noni“ adamianis adekvaturi ori-

entaciis xarisxi sakuTari Tavis

sxvisi TvaliT danaxvis unarzea

damokidebuli, radganac adamianis

swrafvas TviTdamkvidrebisken ga-

napirobebs ara mxolod sakuTari

survilebi da sakuTar Tavze

warmodgenebi, aramed imis gaTva-

liswinebac, Tu ras fiqroben

Senze sxvebi. mgonia, rom swored

es unari aqvT dakarguli „naci-

onalebs“ da amitomac iqcevian

ase. amitomac miiRes aseTi saar-

Cevno drakonuli kanonic.

_ amboben, zviad gamsaxurdi-

as momxre adamianebi sWarbo-

ben Tqvens partiaSio, ramdenad

marTalia?

_ ver vityvi sWarbobs meT-

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eria iseTebic, romlic am dros

moRvaweobda. me mgoni, aranakleb

mniSvnelovania dRevandeli prezi-

denti, romlic gaxldaT iustici-

is ministri SevardanZis dros. ase

rom „gacveTili saxeebi“ da „mumi-

ebi“ dRevandel mTavrobaSic bevria.

es prezidentis sityvebia da ise

sjobs, rom msgavsi leqsika ar

hqondes. talaxSi goraoba aravisT-

vis ukadrebia Cems liders. xolo

talaxsa da mtverSi vin igorava

gorSi, xalxs kargad axsovs. eseTi

sityvebi ar epatieba Cveulebriv

adamians, araTu prezidents, miT

ufro, rom es sityvebi ismis par-

lamentSi da mas umravlesoba uk-

ravs taSs.

am qveyanaSi rac gakeTda varde-

bis revoluciis Semdeg, risi miwe-

rac ase uyvars prezidents da wi-

Teli lentebis gaWra, didi umete-

soba biZina ivaniSvilis gakeTebuli

iyo. rodesac axal mTavrobas

uWirda da didi safrTxe iyo, isic

korufciaSi gabmuliyo, swored ma-

Sin exmareboda ivaniSvili mas. Tu-

ki ivaniSvili saakSvils uwyobda

xels, rom reformebi gaetarebina,

Tavad ras izams xelsiuflebaSi

mosvlis mere?! ukan waiyvans qveya-

nas, maSin roca 10 wlis ganmavlo-

baSi CrdilSi mdgom adamians qveya-

na win mihyavda?!

Cveni sagareo veqtori aris

gnsazRvruli, es aris evropasTan

integracia, magram es ar gamo-

ricxavs ruseTTan urTierTobis

dalagebas. ruseTSi bazari qarTu-

li produqciisTvis unda aRsdges,

savaWro urTierTobebi unda mowes-

rigdes, amiT iwyeba urTierTobebis

dalageba. uamravi saqarTvelos mo-

qalaqe cxovreobs ruseTSi, bevr

moqalaqes unda mimosvla, saWiroa

dialogi ruseTTan, amas arc saa-

kaSvili uaryofs, magram am xeli-

suflebas amis resursi ar aqvs,

radgan iyo Zalian cudi ritorika

da piradi dapirispireba. vidre

okupirebulia saqarTvelos teri-

toria, diplomatiuri urTierTo-

bebis aRdgenaze saubari ar aris,

magram miuxedavad amisa, mainc arse-

bobs dialogis gzebi, magaliTad

ekonomika, da dasawyisisTvis es Se-

iZleba iyos Zalian kargi starti

axali xelisuflebisaTvis, radan

misi urTierToba ruseTTan ar iq-

neba damZimebuli im ritorkiT, ri-

Tic dRevandeli xelisuflebis

urTierTobaa. eWvi mepareba rom Si-

da politikurma Zvrebma aiZulos

putini wavides sagareo politikur

daTmobaze. veTanxmebi xelisufle-

bas, rom Cven unda ganvviTardeT,

Tumca am xelisuflebis xelSi amis

Sanss ver vxedav. axali xelisuf-

lebis pirobebSi, rodesac saqarT-

velo marTla gaxdeba demokratiu-

li qveyana, romlic iqneba Zalian

momxiblavi Cveni afxazi da osi me-

zoblebisaTvis. maTTan dialogis

dawyebam, am yvelaferma SeiZleba

Cven win wagvwios.

`maestro~


gazafxulobiT amindis mkv-

eTr cvlilebaze bevri Cvengani

mwvaved reagirebs. weliwadis am

periodSi haeris temperaturis,

tenianobis, atmosferuli wne-

vis cvalebadobasa da eleqtro-

magnitur qariSxlebs adamianebi

ise gamoyavs `mwyobridan~, rom

zogierTi maTgani, meteorolo-

giur faqtorebze moWarbebuli

reaqciis gamo, saavadmyofoSic

ki xvdeba.

amindis mkveTr da xSir cv-

lilebaze gansakuTrebiT mwva-

ved reagireben miokardiumis in-

farqt da insultgadatanili

adamianebi, maRali da dabali

arteriuli wnevis mqoneni. ara-

nakleb uWirT meteoperipetie-

bis gaZleba maT, visac sasunTqi,

centraluri nervuli sistemisa

da sayrden-mmamoZravebeli apara-

tis sxvadasxva saxis qroniku-

li daavadebebi awuxebs.

adamianebs, vinc amindis sul

umniSvnelo cvlilebazec ki ba-

rometiviT reagirebs, specia-

listebi meteorikebs uwodeben.

sasargeblo rrCevebi meteorikebs:1. gazafxulis dadgomisTa-

nave, mixedeT qronikul daava-

debebs, radgan amindis cvli-

lebebi yovelTvis aprovoci-

rebs maT gamwvavebas.

2. gaasinjeT farisebri

jirkvali specialists, radgan

organizmSi iodis deficiti

sagrZnoblad aZlierebs meteo-

reaqciebs;

3. gaimagreT nervuli sis-

tema _ Tu amindis cvlilebebi

Tqvens ganwyobas Trgunavs, sev-

das an uZilobas iwvevs, sjobs

miiRoT damawynarebeli saSua-

lebebi;

4. SeamcireT an saerTod

akrZaleT kofeinis Semcveli

sasmelebi;

5. imunuri sistema gaamxne-

veT iseTi adaptogenebiT, ro-

gorebicaa: Jen-Seni, Cinuri li-

monura, C da E vitaminebi;

6. mSvenieria damzogveli

sporti, siaruli an msubuqi

sirbili, 15-wuTiani dilis

varjiSi namdvilad ar gawyen-

daT. mZime dRis Semdeg kargia

wiwvebis abazanac (10-15 wuTi

370C-iani wyliT);

7. gavarjiSeba ar awyenda

sisxlZarRvebsac _ civi pirsa-

xociT dazelva, masaJi da kon-

trastuli Sxapi;

8. ikvebeT srulfasovnad.

am periodSi nu daicavT dietas

da nurc Wamas mieZalebiT. iS-

viaTad miirTviT xorci, cximi-

ani da Semwvari sakvebi, droe-

biT unda gamoricxoT racioni-

dan cxare saneleblebi da al-

koholuri sasmelebi. upirate-

soba rZis produqtebsa da mce-

nareul sakvebs mianiWeT;

9. aucileblad CarTeT ra-

cionSi Warxali, qiSmiSi, gar-

grisa da Savi qliavis Ciri,

forToxali, mwvanili, Txili,

xaxvi, niori, Tafli;

10. Tu Taflsa da mis pro-

duqtebze alergiuli ar brZan-

debiT, Zalebis mosamagreblad

aucileblad miirTviT Tafli

an dRis ganmavlobaSi gaReWeT

fiWa.

11. nebismier amindSi Seeca-

deT, rac SeiZleba didi xani

dahyoT haerze;

12. Tvali adevneT amindis

prognozs, araxelsayrel geo-

magnitur dReebSi ecadeT

SezRudoT rogor gonebrivi,

ise fizikuri datvirTva;

13. Tu hipertoniki brZan-

debiT, civ, qarian amindSi, qu-

CaSi gasvlis win, ramdenime

wuTiT sadarbazoSi SeCerdiT

_ mieciT organizms aklimati-

zaciis saSualeba;

14. Tu hipotoniki xarT,

dRe yovelTvis daiwyeT varji-

SiT, raTa gaiaqtiuroT sisx-

lis mimoqceva _ Tqveni xsna

amindis Wirveulobisas mxo-

lod da mxolod moZraobaSia;

15. metad mniSvnelovania

normaluri gamoZineba _ saku-

Tari gamtydari cxovrebis

ritmi meteomgrZnobelobas

samjer zrdis, amitom ecadeT

sadilis Semdeg 30-40 wuTiT

mainc daiZinoT. aucileblad

unda gamonaxoT erTi saaTi ma-

inc, raTa qalaqisa da avtoma-

gistralebis xmaurs gaeridoT

da sadme mSvid da wynar adgi-

lad seirnobiT nervebi daiwy-

naroT;

16. yvelaze mniSvnelovani

ki is aris, rom ar CaicikloT

sakuTar SegrZnebebze da amin-

dis cvalebadobas SiSis Tva-

lebiT ar ucqiroT, nebismier

stresTan brZolaSi saukeTeso

damxmare kargi ganwyoba da op-

timizmia.

gazafxulobiT, bunebis gamo-

RRviZebisas, axali sasicocxlo

ZalebiT aRRvsebisa da gaaqqtiure-

bis nacvlad, adamians saocari

moTenTiloba eufleba. bunebis

gaRRviZebis paralelurad, mwvav-

deba zamTarSi TiTqqosda miZine-

buli qqronikuli daavadebebi, ami-

tom bevri Cvengani weliwadis am

mSvenieri drois dadgomas SiSiT

Sescqqeris.

romeli ddaavadebebi iRviZebs ggazafxulzesaWmlis momnelebel organo-

Ta sistema _ gastritis, kuWisa

da Tormetgoja nawlavis

wylulovani daavadeba,

nawlavTa anTebebi _ gaRi-

zianebuli nawlavis sind-

romi. xSiria nervuli

moSlilobiT gamowveuli

nawlavuri problemebi.

gul-sisxlZarRvTa si-

stema _ hipertonuli da-

avadeba, gulis qronikuli

ukmarisoba; xSiria gulis

muSaobis ritmis darRveva

da tkivili mkerdis areSi.

kardiologiur daavadeba-

Ta gamwvavebis pirveli mi-

zezi momatebuli meteomgrZnobe-

loba da haerSi atmosferuli

wnevis cvlilebebia.

sasunTqi sistemis daavadebebi

_ yvelaze metad am periodis ga-

datana asTmuri bronqitiTa da

qronikuli asTmiT daavadebulebs

uWirT.

nervuli sistemis daavadebebi

_ nevrozebi, nevralgiebi. xSiria

umizezod foriaqi da depresiu-

li ganwyoba;

gamomyofi sistemis daavadebe-

bi _ cistiti, pielonefriti,

Cndeba Sardis gamoyofasTan da-

kavSirebuli problemebi;

kanis daavadebebi _ egzema da

fsoriazi.

sayrden-mamoZravebeli apara-

tis daavadebebi _ arTritebi,

revmatizmi.

Cndeba kunTebis mtkivneuli

daWimva da nervuli xasiaTis

spazmuri tkivilebi.

reproduqciuli sistemis da-

avadebebi _ am periodisTvis Zal-

zed damaxasiaTebelia menstrua-

luri ciklis moSla. es movlena

hormonuli Zvrebisa da organiz-

mis aqtiurobis zogadi daqveiTe-

bis Sedegia.

ra xxdeba?gazafxulze zamTris Semdeg

icvleba klimati, garemos tempe-

ratura, tenianoba, sakvebi, dRe-

Ramis xangrZlivoba, cxovrebis

reJimi da muSaoba-dasvenebis xa-

risxi, aqtiurdeba magnituri qa-

rebi, mkveTrad cvalebadobs at-

mosferuli wneva.

weliwadis am gardamaval pe-

riodSi organizmSi irRveva sxva-

dasxva organos sistemebis bio-

riTmTa SeTanxmebuli muSaoba,

zamTargamovlili, virusebiTa da

baqteriebis gaxSirebuli Seteve-

biT dasustebulia imunuri sis-

temac, amitom daavadebis yvavi-

lobasac araferi uSlis xels.

imunuri sistema gansakuTre-

biT martis TveSia susti, zogi

gazafxulis mzis pirveli sxive-

bis danaxvisTanave sagazafxulo

samosze gadadis, rac aseve xSir

gaciebas uwyobs xels.

vitaminebis ddeficitizamTarSi organizmi vitamine-

bis naklebobas ganicdis; es kve-

biTi TaviseburebiT aixsneba _

weliwadis am dros adamiani ver

iRebs srulfasovan sak-

vebs, saWiro raodenobis

xilsa da bostneuls,

ramdenic mas sWirdeba; ase

rom, organizmi ga-

zafxuls vitaminebis de-

ficitiT xvdeba.

zamTarSi xangrZlivad

Senaxul produqtebSi vi-

taminebi TandaTan iSleba,

iklebs organizmisTvis

aucilebel nivTiereba-

TaASemcveloba.

xili da bostneuli _

vitaminebis bunebrivi wya-

ro gazafxulis pirze TiTqmis

gamofitulia, vitaminebis Semcve-

lobis TvalsazrisiT, maTi kvebi-

Ti Rirebuleba Cveulebrivze ga-

cilebiT mcirea, rafinirebuli

da dakonservebuli sakvebi bio-

logiurad aqtiur nivTierebebze

organizmis gazrdil moTxovni-

lebas ver akmayofilebs, arada,

es naerTebi imunuri sistemis

gaZlierebis, nivTierebaTa cvlis

procesebis gaaqtiurebisTvis yve-

laze metad swored gazafxulzea

saWiro.

gazafxulze metismetad

xSirdeba alergiuli reaqcie-

bi, rac imunitetis dasuste-

bisa da garemo faqtorebis,

gansakuTrebiT mcenareTa yva-

vilis mtvris moqmedebis Se-

degia.

alergiuli reaqciebisT-

vis xelsayreli, e.w. saSiSi

periodis dadgomisTanave,

pirveli da yvelaze logiku-

ri Tavdacvis RonisZiebaa

alergenTan _ alergiis ga-

momwvev faqtorTan kontaqtis

SezRudva.

sakmaod xSirad es SeuZ-

lebelia, amitom gTavazobT

sasargeblo rCevebs, romle-

bic `saSiS periodSi~ Zalzed

gamogadgebaT:

maqsimalurad ecadeT Se-

amciroT quCaSi yofnis dro,

gansakuTrebiT es qalaqgareT,

soflebsa da dabebSi mcxov-

reblebs exebaT;

isini, visac sokos spo-

rebze aqvs alergia, ar unda

gaCerdnen tyeSi, Tivis zvi-

nebTan axlos an parkebSi, sa-

dac niadagi nestiania.

rodis

gamovideT gareT?

alergiiT daavadebulTa

umravlesobisTvis aseTi dro

wvimiani dReebia, roca haerSi

yvelaze naklebi mtveria.

sokos sporebze alergiis

mqoneT saseirnod mSrali da

mziani amindi unda erCivnoT.

TiTqmis yvela maTganisT-

vis araxelsayrelia qariani

dReebi, aseT dros haerSi

mtvrisa da sokos sporebis

raodenoba gacilebiT didia,

amasTan, isini qars advilad

gadaaqvs erTi adgilidan meo-

reze da maTTan `Sexvedrac~

Zalzed advilia.

alergiulTaTvis saseir-

nod zedgamoWrilia mSvidi da

uqaro amindi.

mniSvnelovania isic, Tu

dRis romel periodSi gamox-

valT gareT _ yvelaze nak-

lebsaSiSi da usafrTxo di-

laa; am dros mtveri jer ki-

dev moumwifebelia, rac See-

xeba sokoTa sporebs, yvelaze

didi raodenobiT isini saRa-

mos haerSia;

rogor moviqceT?

* nu gaaRebT fanjrebs

SuadRisas da saRamos;

* SeZlebisdagvarad Car-

TeT kondicionerebi;

* avtomobilSi yofnisas

awieT minebi;

* samsaxuridan Sin dabru-

nebuls ar dagaviwydeT wylis

gadavleba tanzec da Tmazec;

* nu gaaSrobT TeTreuls

ezoSi;

* baRsa da bostanSi muSa-

obisas ar dagaviwydeT cxvi-

risa da piris dacva damcavi

dolbandiT.

gverdi moamzada

zviad RonRaZem.

sagazafxulo samedicino rCevebi

amindis cvalebadobaze barometriviT reagirebT?

gazafxulze daavadebaTayvavilobac iwyeba

aalleerrggiiaamm rroomm

aarr ddaaggaazzaarraallooTT


mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT

amerikis SeerTebuli State-

bisa da ruseTis dapirispireba~

_ aseT reziumes gvTavazoben

sainformacio saagentoebi gae-

ros uSiSroebis sabWos sxdo-

mis Sesaxeb, romelic axlo aRR-

mosavleTSi Seqqmnil viTarebas

mieZRRvna. es dapirispireba iyo,

ase vTqqvaT, dauswrebeli, magram

igi telekamerebisa da Jurna-

listebis Tvalwin gaTamaSda

sabWos darbazis Sesasvlel

karTan.

ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa mi-

nistri sergei lavrovi niu-

iorkSi pirdapir kairodan Caf-

rinda, sadac arabuli saxelm-

wifoebis ligis sagareo uwye-

bis warmomadgenlebTan mZime

Sexvedra gamarTa. lavrovis

TqmiT, man moaxerxa da kole-

gebs SeuTanxma is gegma, romli-

Tac siriis konfliqtis mogva-

rebaa SesaZlebeli. umTavresi

Tezisi (cecxlis Sewyvetis Se-

saxeb pasuxismgebloba unda da-

ekisros rogorc siriis mxares,

ise maT, vin mas utevs), romlis

Sesaxebac lavrovma ganacxada,

amerikis saxelmwifo mdivanma

hilari klintonma maSinve uar-

yo.

_ Tu Cven gvsurs sisxlis-

Rvris SeCereba, ufro pragmatu-

lad unda vimoqmedoT, _ ga-

nacxada sergei lavrovma. _ sa-

marTlianoba moicdis, radgan

vidre Cven debatebs vmarTavT da

siriis mTavrobisgan viTxovT,

qalaqebidan jari gaiyvanos,

msxverplis raodenoba izrdeba.

_ saerTaSoriso sazogado-

ebriobis upirobo moTxovnaa,

samTavrobo Zalebma Sewyviton

mSvidobian mosaxleobaze Sete-

va, _ Seuswora ruseTis saga-

reo saqmeTa ministrs klinton-

ma. _ SeruZlebelia, orive mxa-

ris pasuxismgeblobis gaTanab-

reba. masStabur Zaladobaze mo-

nopolia siriis reJims ekuTv-

nis. konfliqtis mogvarebis po-

litikuri mowesrigebis pro-

cesze gadasasvlelad am Zala-

dobis Sewyvetaa aucilebeli.

rogorc ki siriis mTavroba am

nabijs gadadgams, meore mxarec

Sewyvets Zaladobas. rogor

movTxovoT daucvel mosaxleo-

bas, uari Tqvas maT xelT arse-

bul dacvis saSualebebze, roca

saartilerio cecxliT uteven?

lavrovi 15-wuTiani saubri-

sas cdilobda warmoeCina ruse-

Tis, rogorc keTilismyofeli

Suamavlis roli siriis konf-

liqtSi. moulodnelad isic ki

ganacxada, rom msoflio metis-

metad bevrs elis moskovisgan.

amerikeli diplomatebi da eqs-

pertebi mainc Seuvali arian da

miaCniaT, rom ruseTis damoki-

debuleba ewinaaRmdegeba gaeros

wevrTa umravlesobis mxardaWe-

ril gegmas.

svobodanews.ru

`wina kviras gamarTul arCevneb-

Si putinis gamarjvebis Semdeg mis

mowinaaRmdegeebs dabneuloba emCne-

vaT~, _ wers germanuli gamocema.

òpozicur wreebSic ki aRiareben:

aSkara falsifikaciis gareSe puti-

ni mainc gaimarjvebda pirvelsave

turSi, Tumca Sedegebi ufro nakle-

bi eqneboda. damoukidebeli damkvir-

veblebis SefasebiT, putinis momxre

amomrCevelTa raodenoba 50 procen-

tia~.

`patiosani arCevnebis~ mitingze

organizatorebma 25 aTasamde mona-

wile daiTvales, policiam _ 8 aTa-

si. moskovSi im dRes zomierad yi-

navda da mziani dari iyo. erTi Tvis

win, 20-gradusian yinvaSi ki orjer

meti xalxi Seikriba.

`Tovlis revoluciad~ monaT-

luli saprotesto talRa mou-

lodnelad agorda da sami Tvis

Semdeg misi dinamika Senelda.

moskovSi marTalia, jerac Tov-

lia, magram putinis sawinaaRmde-

go aqtiuri protesti dneba~, _

wers werilis avtori. arbatze

gamarTulma mitingma kremlis mo-

winaaRmdegeTa koaliciaSi arse-

buli winaaRmdegobebi warmoaCina.

magaliTad, roca nacionalistebs

sTxoves, scenis win afrialebuli

ìmperiuli~ droSa aeRoT, naciona-

listebi organizebulad wavidnen,

xolo memarjvene Zalebis liderebma

ganacxades, rom msgavs saprotesto

gamosvlebSi aRar miiReben monawi-

leobas. SesaZloa, egreT wodebuli

`slavuri Zalis~ wasvlas Tavisi

plusebic gaaCnia, magram isic aSka-

raa, rom moskovis saSualo fenis

warmomadgenlebmac zurgi aqcies mi-

tings.

`dekembris saxelmwifo saTaTbi-

ros arCevnebisgan gansxvavebiT, amje-

rad opoziciam ver SeZlo, kremlis

gamarjveba saeWvo gaexada~, _ wers

mimomxilveli.

Der Spiegel

es arc meore àrabuli

gazafxuli~ aRmoCnda da arc

`narinjisferi revolucia~.

rac yvelaze dasanania, arc

saerToerovnul movlenad

iqca, wers The Guardian sa-

redaqcio werilSi da gu-

lisxmobs `putinis sawinaaR-

mdego masobrivi saprotesto

gamosvlebis bolo sam Tves~.

TumcaRa gazeTi darwmu-

nebulia: marTalia, martSi

momitingeebis raodenobam

moimata, magram ès rodi niSnavs imas, TiT-

qos putiniseuli `stabilurobis~ an sta-

tus-kvos mudmivad SenarCunebis gegmam gai-

marjva~. `Sesafaseblad aucilebelia, dave-

lodoT momdevno saerToerovnul kriziss

_ axal `kursks~, beslans, ekonomikur

Soks~, _ vkiTxulobT werilSi.

saprotesto moZraobam

aCvena, rom: 1. ruseTSi de-

mokratia ubralod mZinare

mdgomareobaSia da 2. axali

Taoba mzad aris, reformebs

SeeWidos.

gazeTi putins urCevs,

`qaosis momZlavrebis SiSi

mosaxleobis mowonebad ar

aRiqvas~, xolo opozicias

miuTiTebs, rom mZime samuSa-

os dro dadga: maT samoqala-

qo aqtivoba unda gaaRvivon

iq, sadac jerjerobiT ar aris da qveyana

leTargiuli Zilisgan gamoaRviZon. poli-

tikuri liderebi, bolos da bolos, mxo-

lod sakuTari Tavis ki ara, xalxis warmo-

madgenelebi unda gaxdnen, wers britanuli

gamocema.

The Guardian

`Cven ar vaRiarebT mis kanonierebas

da kidev erTxel mxars vuWerT saqarT-

velos suverenitetsa da teritoriul

mTlianobas saerTaSorisod aRiarebul

sazRvrebSi~, _ acxadebs amerikis Seer-

Tebuli Statebis saxelmwifo departa-

mentis warmomadgeneli mark toneri.

`Cven ruseTisgan viTxovT: daicvas

is valdebulebebi, romlebsac afxazeT-

Si cecxlis Sewyvetis Sesaxeb 2008 wlis SeTanxmeba iTvaliswinebs, ga-

moiyvanos jari im poziciebze, sadac konfliqtis dawyebamde imyofeboda,

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ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa saministrom

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bobs da zed romeliRac warmar-

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nisTvis karga xnis Semdeg dasav-

leTidan kontrforsi miudgamT da

taZris kedeli gaumagrebiaT.

rogorc iTqva, danaxvisidan

mTeli atenis xeoba da Tavad so-

feli ateni xelisguliviT moCans

Tavisi 12 ubniT, ufro axlo xe-

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naxva wminda barbares eklesiidan

SeiZleba. es mcire saydari

(5,7X4,2 m) atenis SesasvlelSi,

erT maRal borcvze dgas da isic

adre- Suasaukuneebis Zeglis, STa-

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aSenebuli.

`mWvretisa~ da `wminda barba-

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sul 9 eklesia dgas. danarCeni

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Zvelubnis `wminda giorgi~, `we-

ros~ eklesiebis kompleqsi da ra-

Ra Tqma unda didebuli `sioni~.

yvela maTganis movlas erTi

da ori dRe ar eyofa. esec ar

iyos, xeobis saTaveebSic varT

asasvleli da bunebrivia, saimedo

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amoiSleba Cemi mexsierebidan. pir-

veli imitom, rom marTlac gul-

qarTli adamianebi arian, meore

imitom, rom tanas napirze mdebare

am orsarTulian saxlSi zafxu-

lis papanaqebaSic ki grila, mesa-

me imitom, rom ojaxis diasaxli-

si _ qalbatoni JuJuna, yofili

skolis maswavlebeli, principuli

stalinelia (erTi oTaxi mas pro-

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rom qalbaton JuJunas dedis so-

na naTaZis msgavsi gulisxmieri,

Sinauri da enamoswrebuli adamia-

ni iSviaTad Semxvedria (RmerTma

gaanaTlos!). da mainc, am qalba-

tonma sxva ramiT gagvaoca _ rac

misma morbedebma ver SeZles, man

moaxerxa _ 90 wlis qali uzar-

mazar xes kenweroSi moeqca da ba-

li Camokrifa!...

... atenis gadaRebas orbelianT

ubnidan viwyebT, sadac adreSuasa-

ukuneebis (VII-IIX ss) RvTismSob-

lis jvargumbaTovani taZari dgas.

Tlili, muqi ruxi kvadrebiT age-

bul am mcire eklesias (7,2X7,9

m), mklavebTan SefardebiT, ganieri

gumbaTis yeli aqvs, rac mlocvel

mrevls siviwrovis gancdas ukar-

gavs. gumbaTi qveda kvadratidan

trompebis ori rigiT aris azidu-

li, misi yeli 8-wwaxnagiania da yo-

vel meore waxnagSi sarkmeli aqvs

gaWrili. bunebrivia, rom sarkmle-

bia mklavebSic. aRmosavleT mkla-

vis sarkmelis nalisebri TavsarTi

amSvenebs, samxreT mklavis sarkm-

lis Tavze ki ori Rrma niSia,

romlebSic mogvianebiT mwvane qve-

bi CausvamT. aseve, mwvane qvebiT

moupirkeTebiaT gumbaTis yeli. sa-

varaudod, mwvane qvebi im dros Ca-

afines perangSi, roca ZirisZiro-

bamde dangreuli saydari aRadgi-

nes. aRmdgeneli rom X s-is cno-

bili politikuri figura rati I

baRvaSia, amas dasavleT karis tim-

panis warwera gveubneba: `qriste

adide orsave cxovrebasa aqa xor-

cielebr da winaSe Sensa suliebr

rat erisTavi Zei igi liparit

erisTavisai, romelman aRaSena ese

saxli RmrTisai da bWei caTai

wmindai eklesiai, salocvelad su-

lisa maTisa~. warwera imas adas-

turebs, rom X saukunis bolo me-

oTxedSi kldekaris erisTavma baR-

vaSebma mtkvris marjvena sanapiro

daisakuTres da atenis RvTismSo-

belic aRadgines. aRvaSeneo rom

ambobs, rati daqceuli saydris

Zirfesvian aRdgenas gulisxmobs.

eklesia rom 989 wlamdea aR-

dgenili, amis Tqmis uflebas is

iZleva, rom aRniSnul wels bag-

rat III-m ratis TrialeTi Camoar-

Tva da kacxSi daabruna. marTalia,

bagratis gardacvalebis mere igi

Semoiriga samefo karma, magram es

ambavi, bunebrivia, giorgi I-is ga-

mefebisTanave _ 1014 wels ver

moxdeboda, 1021 wels ki rati, va-

JiSvil liparitTan erTad, bizan-

tielebTan omSi daiRupa SirimnSi.

atenis umTavresi saydari `si-

oni~ soflidan samxreTiT, tanis

marcxena napirze, xelovnurad ga-

magrebul kldezea aRmarTuli. sa-

laTisferi da oqrosferi qviSaq-

vis Cinebulad gaTlili qviT age-

buli es jvargumbaTovani tetra-

konqi (24X19 m. simaRle _ 22 m.)

`mcxeTis jvris~ erTgvari gameo-

rebaa da masze odnav gvianaa aSe-

nebuli VII saukuneSi. taZari

droTa ganmavlobaSi darRveulia

da – VIII-X saukuneebSi aRudgeni-

aT. gansakuTrebuli aqtivobiT ga-

moirCeva afxazTa mefe giorgi II,

romelic qarTlSi erisTavad Ta-

vis vaJs leons niSnavs. giorgi II

Tavis politikas ufliscixe-ate-

nis placdarmidan avrcelebda

mTel aRm.saqarTveloSi, xolo

qristianobas_alanebSi, ris gamoc

konstantinopolis patriarqma mas

`brwyinvale~ uwoda.

atenis sionis erT-erTi warwe-

ra, romelic taZris zRudis Semq-

mnel sarqals ekuTvnis, swored

giorgi afxazTa mefis zeobis Jams,

945 welsaa Sesrulebuli. aRm.fa-

sadis Crd.frTaze qvaTa wyobis

qvemodan meore rigSi Sesrulebu-

li es nusxuri warwera ase

ikiTxeba: `qriste Seiwyale atenis

sarqali _ ese zRudei Seqmna qo-

ronikonsa re (945 w)~. zRudis

SeqmnaSi aq qvis mZlavri baqnis _

substruqciis aSenebac igulisxme-

ba. rogorc mecnierTa erTi jgufi

fiqrobs, VIII-X saukuneebis mSene-

bel-restavratoria galatozi To-

dosaki, rasac samxreT fasadis aR-

mosavleT niSSi arsebuli somxu-

ri asomTavruli warwera gveubne-

ba: `me Todosaki maSenebeli am

wmida eklesiisa~. amave periodisaa

zogierTi reliefuri qandakeba,

romelic VII saukunis stilis ga-

meorebas cdilobs, magram saSems-

ruleblo ostatobiT mainc Camor-

Ceba rogorc mcxeTis jvars, ise

TviT atenis adreul reliefebs.

rogorc Cans, atenis sionis aRmd-

genlebi rTul mdgomareobaSi aR-

moCndnen da zustad ver SeZles

stilis kopireba. maT aRarc epo-

qis sunTqva uwyobT xels da arc

skola saimisod, rom Cawvdnen ate-

nis sionis Zveli qandakaris Se-

moqmedebas, romelic kargad gamos-

Wvivis VII saukunis reliefebidan:

`wyvili iremi wyarosTan~ (Crdi-

loeT Sesasvlels timpanze), `na-

diroba~ da `senmuri~, anu ZaRli-

Citi (dasavleT fasadze). es Tema

Tavis droze Zalian kargad aqvT

gaSlili giorgi CubinaSvils, na-

Tela aladaSvils, givi abramiS-

vils da zaza aleqsiZes.

calke saubris Temaa atenis

freskebi, romlebic XI saukunis II

naxevriT TariRdeba. es is droa,

roca tanis xevs jer liparit IV

baRvaSi flobs, mere ki, bagrat

IV-is mefobis bolo Jams _ sa-

xelmwifo-samefo kari, romelic

aq qalaqsac aarsebs. atenis sioni

Tavis freskebiT CvenTvis Tavise-

buri `siqstis kapelaa~. magram es

ar aris sionis Tavdapirveli

mxatvroba. baTqaSis Camocvenis

Semdeg aqa-iiq VIII saukunis moxa-

tulobac gamoCnda _ wiTeli, ru-

xi da TeTri saRebavebiT ametyve-

lebuli reliefuri jvari (gum-

baTSi), ganedlebuli jvrebi (af-

sidis Sverilebze da samkveTlos

karis Tavze), arqiteqturuli

wyobis imitacia (afsidis konqSi

da TaRebSi) da sxva.

atenis sioni istoriuli war-

werebiTac erT-erTi unikaluri

Zeglia. aq SexvdebiT qtitorTa,

saeklesio moRvaweTa, mSenebelTa

Tu piligrimTa saxelebs, adreuli

poeziis nimuSebsac ki. S.amiranaS-

vilis, g.Cubin.aSvilis da g.abra-

miSvilis mosazrebiT, TiTqos, yve-

laze Zveli unda iyos. aRmosav-

leT kedlis reliefze Sesrule-

buli stefanoz II-iis (VII-ss) da

`qarTvelTa da megrelTa erisTav-

TerisTavTa ufali~ stefanoz III-

is (711-7739 w.) warwerebi. Zalian

sainteresoa X s-iis warwerebSi

`Zamelis~ gamoCena, magram ufro

saintereso, ra Tqma unda, buRa

Turqis Semosevisa da Tbilisis

gadawvis droindeli (853 w) war-

weraa, romelSic wamebuli kons-

tantine kaxis saxelsac vxvdebiT.

rogorc zeviT aRiniSna, XI-is

II naxevarSi ateni qalaqad iqca.

SesaZloa, amdroindeli iyos sa-

saflaoze mdgari `kviracxove-

lic~ da sionis mopirdapired,

mdinaris marjvena napirze arsebu-

li, odesRac mTlianad moxatuli

`naTlismcemelic~. ai, Zvel ubanSi

mdebare `wm. giorgi~ ki namdvilad

xsenebuli periodisaa _ dasavleT

fasadis frontonis 7-striqonian

warweraSi bagrat IV-ea moxsenie-

buli.

amave ubanSi, atenis ZirSi, ar-

is bunebrivi macivari, romelsac

vaxuSti batoniSvilic axsenebs.

mis gamo daerqva swored atenis

cixes `civis cixe~ da mTas _`ci-

vis mTa~. macivars axlac iyeneben.

es aris mcire zomis ori bunebri-

vi gamoqvabuli, romlisTvisac oT-

axis forma miuciaT (2X2 m), mag-

ram SigniT ver gaimarTebi. kldis

qanebSi arsebuli bzarebiT maRli-

dan aq mudam civi haeri uberavs.

im dRes Cven macivarSi Senaxuli

xeladidan cnobili atenuri Rvi-

no davaWaSnikeT, Tumca, es mainc

ar iyo is cnobili budeSuri, ro-

melic axla didi iSviaTobaa. am

jiSis momravlebaze atenSi vasiko

jambriSvili zrunavs, romelsac

ramdenime Ziri vazi Wigoebze mi-

uSvia da zed dakankalebs. misi

TqmiT, budeSurs rqawiTeliviT ma-

Rali Saqrianoba aqvs, magram aro-

matiT sjobs.

amJamad atenSi da atenis Tem-

Si Semaval soflebSi daaxloebiT

1300 komli cxovrobs, magram mo-

saxleoba xeobis zeda nawils, pa-

tar-patara soflebsac SemorCa. iq

aseve Semonaxulia saintereso,

Tumca, naklebad cnobili saydre-

bi. naTaZeebis stumarTmoyvare

ojaxSi kidev erT Rames gavaTe-

nebT, diliT ki aRma avuyvebiT ta-

nas.

gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi

atenis xeoba

mogzauroba samSobloSiaateniis xeobiis siiRRrrmeSii,, mdiinaarre taaniis aaRRmosaavleT mxaarres,,

aazziiduliiaa maaRRaalii mTaa,, saaiidaanaac aarraamaarrto es xeobaa,, aarraamed kaarrg

aamiindSii Tbiiliisiic kii moCaans. aamiitom daaaarrqvaa xaalxmaa maas daanaaxvii-

sii,, xolo miis Txemzze mdgaarr eklesiiaas `mWvrretii wmiindaa giiorrgii~.

aaq moxvedrraa aateniidaan soffel drriisken miimaavaalii gzziiT SeiiZlebaa,,

maagrraam mxolod maanqaaniiT,, rromeliic soffel RRverreTs bevrriiT maaiinc

verr gaagaacdenT. aamiis merre ffexiiT mogiiwevT siiaarrulii.

atenis sioni. reliefebi da moxatuloba

atenis `RvTismSobeli~ da `wminda giorgi~

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arasrulwlovanisaTvis da-

niSnuli Tavisuflebis aRk-

veTis vada Semcirdeba erTi

mesamediT. amasTanave, sabo-

loo sasjeli ar unda aRe-

matebodes 10 wels.

_ 16-dan 18 wlamde aras-

rulwlovanisaTvis da-

niSnuli Tavisuflebis

aRkveTis vada Semcir-

deba erTi meoTxediT.

amasTanave, saboloo

sasjeli ar unda aRema-

tebodes 15 wels.

* * *

_ Cemma Svilma

arasrulwlovanebis

asakSi Caidina danaSau-

li, romelic ukve moi-

xada. rogor iqneba na-

samarTlobis sakiTxi?

rodis moexsneba?

_ Tqven ar isurveT, da-

gekonkretebinaT Tqveni Svi-

lis mier Cadenili danaSau-

lis saxe, riTac saSualebas

momcemdiT, konkretul Se-

kiTxvaze konkretuli pasuxi

gameca.

amis gamo, me, zogadad,

mogaxsenebT sisxlis samarT-

lis me-100 muxlis Sesaxeb,

saidanac daskvnas imedia

Tqven TviTon gaakeTebT.

_ imas, vinc danaSauli

18 wlamde Caidina, nasamarT-

loba gauqarwyldeba:

a) pirobiT msjavrdebi-

sas _ gamosacdeli vadis

gasvlis Semdeg;

b) Tavisuflebis aRkve-

Taze ufro msubuqi sasje-

liT msjavrdebisas _ sasje-

lis moxdidan 6 Tvis Sem-

deg;

g) naklebad mZime danaSa-

ulisaTvis Tavisuflebis

aRkveTiT msjavrdebisas _

sasjelis moxdidan erTi

wlis Semdeg;

d) mZime danaSaulisaTvis

Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT msj-

avrdebisas _ sasjelis mox-

didan sami wlis Semdeg;

e) gansakuTrebiT mZime

danaSaulisaTvis Tavisuf-

lebis aRkveTiT msjavrdebi-

sas _ sasjelis moxdidan

xuTi wlis Semdeg.

* * *

_ pirobiTi msjavris

dros rogoria gamosacdeli

vada?

_ Tavisuflebis aRkveTa-

ze ufro msubuqi saxis sas-

jelis daniSvnisas gamosac-

deli vada unda iyos aranak-

leb erTi da ara umetes sa-

mi wlisa, xolo Tavisufle-

bis aRkveTis daniSvnisas _

pirobiT msjavrze erTi

wliT meti. danaSaulTa er-

Tobliobis an ganaCenTa er-

Tobliobis dros sasjelTa

Sekrebis Sedegad saboloo

sasjelis daniSvnisas gamo-

sacdeli vada unda iyos pi-

robiT msjavrze erTi wlis

meti.

* * *

_ SeiZleba Tu ara piro-

biTi msjavris vadaze adre

gauqmeba?

_ SeiZleba.

ss kodeqsis 67-e muxlis

I nawilis mixedviT, Tu pi-

robiT msjavrdebuli gamo-

sacdeli vadis aranakleb na-

xevris gasvlis Semdeg yo-

faqceviT daamtkicebs Tavis

gamosworebas, saqarTvelos

sasjelaRsrulebis, proba-

ciisa da iuridiuli daxma-

rebis sakiTxTa saministros

mmarTvelobis sferoSi moq-

medi sajaro samarTlis

iuridiuli piris arasapa-

timro sasjelTa aRsrule-

bisa da probaciis erovnuli

saagentos pirobiTi msjav-

ris gauqmebis sakiTxTa ganm-

xilveli mudmivmoqmedi ko-

misia msjavrdebulis mimarT

kontrolisa da daxmarebis

ganmaxorcielebeli organos

Suamdgomlobis safuZvelze

iRebs gadawyvetilebas piro-

biT msjavrdebulisaTvis pi-

robiTi msjavris gauqmebisa

da nasamarTlobis moxsnis

Sesaxeb.

amave muxlis 1-1 nawilis

mixedviT, pirobiT msjavrde-

bulisaTvis zemoT moyvanili

dadgenili wesiT pirobiTi

msjavris gauqmeba da nasa-

marTlobis moxsna SesaZle-

belia janmrTelobis mdgoma-

reobis gamo, gamosacdeli

vadis naxevris gasvlamdec.

* * *

_ Cemi qaliSvili dai-

niSna vaJze. niSnoba Sedga

Cvens ojaxSi rogorc vaJis

mSoblebisa da axlo naTesa-

vebis, ise me da Cemi meuR-

lis, aseve, Cveni axlo naTe-

savebis TandaswrebiT. miuxe-

davad amisa, erTi Tvis Sem-

deg vaJma CaSala niSnoba da

ganacxada, rom mas sxva uy-

vars, xolo es niSnoba misi

mSoblebis daJinebuli mo-

TxovniT Sedga. Cemi qaliS-

vili Zalian ganicdis momx-

dars. SeiZleba Tu ara, sasa-

marTlo wesiT vaiZuloT

vaJs Cems qaliSvilze da-

qorwineba, sircxvilis gada-

salaxavad, Tundac droebiT?

_ aseT SemTxvevaSi kano-

ni TqvenTvis sasurvel Se-

degs gamoricxavs.

saqarTvelos samoqalaqo

kodeqsis 1109-e muxlis I

nawilis mixedviT, dasaqor-

winebel pirTa winaswari

Tanxmoba (niSnoba) ar war-

moadgens SemdgomSi daqor-

winebis valdebulebas.

amave muxlis II nawilis

mixedviT, niSnoba ar aris

sasamarTloSi iZulebiTi

daqorwinebis moTxovnis Se-

saxeb sarCelis wardgenis

safuZveli.

amave muxlis III nawilis

mixedviT, niSnobasTan dakav-

Sirebuli saCuqrebi dauqor-

wineblobis SemTxvevaSi mxa-

reebs ukan ubrundebaT.

* * *

_ ramdenime wlis win

oficialurad ganvqorwindi

meuRlesTan Cven erTmaneTs

SevurigdiT. SeiZleba

Tu ara ganqorwinebis

gabaTileba?

_ Tqvens SemTxveva-

Si ganqorwinebis gaba-

Tileba ar SeiZleba.

sityva `gabaTilebas~

sxva samarTlebrivi

datvirTva aqvs. Tqven

xelaxla unda daqor-

windeT. amis uflebas

gaZlevT samoqalaqo

kodeqsis 1136-e muxli.

* * *

_ Cemi meuRle patimaria.

msurs masTan ganqorwineba.

rogor moxdeba es?

_ meuRle, romelsac gan-

qorwineba surs msjavrde-

bul meuRlesTan, valdebu-

lia saagentos teritoriul

samsaxurs warudginos sasa-

marTlos ganaCenis piri an

ganaCenis amonaweri imis Se-

saxeb, rom mis meuRles Se-

fardebuli aqvs Tavisufle-

bis aRkveTa aranakleb 3

wlisa.

Setanili gancxadebis

Sesaxeb saagentos terito-

riuli samsaxuri auwyebs

Tavisuflebis aRkveTis da-

wesebulebaSi myof meuRles.

uwyebaSi unda ganisazRvros

imis Taobaze pasuxis Setyo-

binebis vada, aris Tu ara

dava bavSvebis Sesaxeb, meuR-

leTa saerTo TanasakuTre-

bis gayofaze. pasuxis Set-

yobinebis vada ar unda aRe-

matebodes 3 Tves.

Tu miRebulia cnoba imis

Sesaxeb, rom dava ar arse-

bobs, an miTiTebul vadaSi

pasuxi ar iqna miRebuli, sa-

agentos teritoriuli sam-

saxuri axdens ganqorwinebis

registracias.

`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultaciasocialuri

dazRvevis sivrce

amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi so-

cialuri dazRveviT moculi arian,

rogorc daqiravebuli muSakebi aseve

TviTdasaqmebulebi, garda im pirebisa,

vinc muSaobs mokle SromiTi xelSek-

rulebebiT soflis meurneobaSi, aris

binis muSaki da saxelmwifo mosamsa-

xureTa zogierTi kategoria. sadazR-

vevo fondebSi nebayoflobiTi Senata-

nebi miiReba saxelmwifo dawesebule-

bebisa da adgilobrivi xelisuflebis

organoebis mosamsaxureTagan, romle-

bic ar arian CarTulni socialuri

dazRvevis sistemaSi 1991 wlis 1 iv-

lisamde, aseve aSS-s im moqalaqeebi-

sagan, vinc sazRvargareT amerikel

damsaqmebelze muSaobs. rkinigzel-

TaTvis da saxelmwifo da municipa-

luri mosamsaxureTa sxvadasxva kate-

goriisTvis arsebobs socialuri

dazRvevis specialuri sqemebi.

dafinansebis wyaroebi

amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi

dazRveuls socialur fondSi Seaqvs

fiqsirebuli Semosavlis 6,2 procen-

ti, misi maqsimaluri sidide SeiZle-

ba 106800 aSS-s dolari iyos, es

xdeba yovelwliuri sainflacio in-

deqsaciiis gaTvaliswinebiT. TviTda-

saqmebulis Senatani misi Semosavlis

12,4 procents Seadgens. damsaqmebels

kuTvnili sawarmos saxelfaso fon-

dis 6,2 procenti Seaqvs. socialuri

dazRvevis fondSi SeTanxmebuli dama-

tebiTi dafinansebis mTeli Tanxa sa-

xelmwifos Seaqvs.

pensiis daniSvnis pirobebi

dRes amerikis SeerTebul Stateb-

Si sruli pensiis miRebis asaki 66

welia, magram 2027 wlisTvis es

zRvari 67 wlamde gaizrdeba. pensiis

misaRebad aucilebelia, minimum, 10

weli mainc hqondes pirs Senatani so-

cialur fondSi. 62 wlidan adamians

SeuZlia vadamdel pensiaSi gavides,

magram am pensiis moculoba Semcire-

buli iqneba. asakis mixedviT pensia

SeiZleba miiRon mxolod im ucxoe-

lebma, vinc muSaobs amerikeli damsaq-

meblis sawarmoSi da mis qveyanasTan

aSS-s aqvs Sesabamisi saerTaSoriso

SeTanxmeba. damatebiTi Semweoba mie-

cemaT mxolod im pirebs, vinc siRa-

ribis zRvars qvemoT imyofeba.

21 welze ufros pirebze invali-

dobis Semweobis gasacemad saWiroa,

rom aRniSnul pirs yovel SromiT

welze aranakleb erTi kvartlis Se-

natani hqondes ganxorcielebuli da

Tu es pensiaSi gasvlisas unda dai-

niSnos, maSin am Senatanebis moculo-

ba aranakleb 10 weli unda iyos. Ta-

vad es Semweoba erTi wlis ganmavlo-

baSi Catarebuli testebis safuZvel-

ze iniSneba. brmebisa da axalgazrdo-

baSi dainvalidebulTaTvis invalido-

bis Semweoba Serbilebuli pirobebis

safuZvelze iniSneba.

marCenalis dakargvisas Semweoba

gaicema, rodesac daRupul marCenals

yovel SromiT welze aqvs ganxorci-

elebuli aranakleb erTi kvartali

Senatani, an 21 wlis Semdgom daRup-

vamde aqvs 10- wliani Senatani. sapen-

sio asakis armqone oblebisa da qvri-

vebisTvis, am Semweobis dasaniSnad sa-

Wiroa, rom daRupul marCenals Sena-

tani Sesabamisad hqondes ganxorcie-

lebuli 1,5 wlisa da 3 wels da 3

Tvis ganmavlobaSi. Semweobis miRebis

ufleba aqvT ganqorwinebul colebs,

Tu maTi qorwineba ara nakleb 10 we-

li grZeldeboda. es Semweo-

ba gaicema im ucxoelebze,

visi daRupuli marCenalic

amerikel damsaqmebelze muSa-

obda.

asakis mixedviT

pensiis moculoba

amerikis SeerTebul Sta-

tebSi asakis mixedviT pensi-

is moculoba efuZneba 1950

wlidan fiqsirebul saSualo

Semosavals an 21 wlis Semdeg dazR-

veulisTvis mis SromiT saqmianobisas

miRebul saSualo Semosavals, gamok-

lebuli SromiTi staJis yvelaze

uaresi 5 welisa. sruli sapensio asa-

kis miRwevisas maqsimaluri pensia

2323 aSS dolars Seadgens TveSi, mi-

nimaluri zRvari ar arsebobs. ameri-

kis Sromis federaciis-samrewvelo

profkavSirebis kongresis monaceme-

biT, asakis mixedviT pensiis saSualo

zoma amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi

arsebuli saSualo xelfasis 42 pro-

cents Seadgens.

im pirTa pensia, vinc sapensio asa-

kis miRwevis Semdeg agrZelebs Sro-

miT saqmianobas, 70 wlis miRwevamde

gansazRvruli Skalis mixedviT, yo-

vel namuSevar Tveze ezrdebaT. am sa-

xis pensiebi avtomaturad ganicdian

yovelwliur indeqsacias. Tu pensio-

ners kmayofaze hyavs piri, mas miece-

ma damateba asakis mixedviT pensiis

50 procentamde. saerTo maqsimaluri

saojaxo pensia 4065 aSS dolars aR-

wevs.

invalidTa

Semweobis moculoba

amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi in-

validobis Semweobis moculoba efuZ-

neba 1950 wlidan dazRveulis mier

miRebul saSualo Semosavals an 21

wlis Semdeg dazRveulis mier Sro-

miTi saqmianobisas miRebul saSualo

Semosavals, gamoklebuli SromiTi

staJis yvelaze uaresi 5 wlisa. inva-

lidTa Semweobis maqsimumi 2453 aSS

dolaria, saojaxo Semweobis maqsimu-

mi invalidobisas 3679 aSS dolaria.

Semweobis moculoba

marCenalis dakargvisas

amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi

marCenalis dakargvisas Semweobis mo-

culoba da gacemis wesi asakis mixed-

viT pensiis Sesabamisad regulirdeba.

marCenalis sikvdilis SemTxvevaSi er-

Tdroulad gaicema 255 aSS dolari.

gardacvlilis Svilebi srulwlova-

nobis miRebamde iReben marCenalis

pensiis 75 procents, xolo mSoble-

bi marCenalis pensiis 150 procents.

marCenalis dakargvisas maqsimaluri

saojaxo Semweoba Seadgens 4329 aSS

dolars TveSi.

daviT arabiZe

socialuri dazRveva amerikis

SeerTebuli StatebSi


yvela didi istoriis mqone

qveyana ufrTxildeba Tavis war-

suls da Taobidan Taobas gadas-

cems codnas mis Sesaxeb. amis

brwyinvale magaliTia saberZne-

Ti. Zveli welTaRricxvisdroin-

del RmerTebis panTeons da mi-

Tebs msoflio icnobs. ra icis

msofliom da ra viciT Cven sa-

qarTvelos qristianobamdeli

religiuri warsulis Sesaxeb?

am Temaze gvesaubrebian ezoTe-

rikosi elguja gvelukaS-vili da mxatvari, mcenareuli

wamlebiT mkurnali nunu mar-giani.

elguja gvelukaSvili:pirvel rigSi vTqvaT is, rom

qarTvelebi ar viyaviT kerpT-

Tayvanismcemlebi. Cven viyaviT

warmarTebi. gvqonda armazi da

zadeni, magram isini xatebi iyv-

nen da ara kerpebi. CvenSi da

sxvaganac xatebi qristianobis

Semosvlamde arsebobda.

qarTuli warmarToba, ro-

gorc aseTi, bolomde gaSifru-

li ar aris, istoriuli monace-

mebi mwiria da warmodgena ufro

SeiZleba Segveqmnas qarTuli

xalxuri tradiciebidan, Tqmu-

lebebidan, zRaprebidan gamomdi-

nare. ramdenadac vici, am bolo

drosac aRmouCeniaT mcxeTaSi

Zveli warmarTuli salocavebi.

aRmoCena erTia, gaSifvra meore.

gasarkvevia, rogor moqmedebdnen

iq qurumebi. qurumebis wes-Cveu-

leba da ritualebi dRemde Se-

narCunebuli aqvT xevisberebs

mTaSi. fSavebs, TuSebs, svanebs

aqvT qristianobasTan Serwymu-

li warmarTuli dResaswaulebi.

aseve cnobilia, rom druidebis

msgavsad saqarTveloSic iyo

tyesTan mimarTebiTi salocavebi.

magaliTad, muxa erT-erTi sa-

locavi xe iyo, aseve iqidan Se-

morCa natvris xis rituali.

warmarTuli niSnebi dRemde Se-

morCenilia qarTul cekvebSi,

magaliTad, ferxuli sufTa

warmarTuli cekvaa, aseve xal-

xur simReraSi “haralo”. saer-

Tod ,es simRera nayofierebis

RmerTis sadidebelia.

- msoflio bevri qveynis an-

tikur warsuls icnobs da medea

rom qarTveli iyo, axla gai-

ges. berZnul legendebSi medea

qalRmerT hekates qurumia, aq

medeas gaberZnebasTanac xom ar

gvaqvs saqme?

- rac Seexeba hekates, is ja-

dosnobis qalRmerTi iyo da dR-

emde popularulia magiur wre-

ebSi. medeam jadosnoba da mkur-

naloba iswavla mamidamisisgan,

aietis da, circesgan, saberZneT-

Si ki oqros sawmisTan erTad

didi ezoTeruli codna waiRo.

- davubrundeT religias, ma-

inc, ZiriTadad, ras efuZneboda

qristianobamdeli qarTuli

rwmena?

- qarTvelebis mTavari RvTa-

eba iyo TeTri giorgi, romelic

qristianobis Semosvlis Semdeg

gaaigives wminda giorgisTan.

esec iyo erT-erTi mizezi imisa,

rom georgianelebs gveZaxdnen,

aseve arc isaa SemTxveviTi, rom

saqarTveloSi 363 wminda gior-

gis eklesiaa.

Tavad TeTri giorgi Tavis

droze iyo xatiskaci, ganxorci-

elebuli RmerTi, mosuli saqar-

TveloSi, rogorc qriste isra-

elSi. igi midioda adamianebTan,

qadagebda, cnobebi mis Sesaxeb

SemorCenilia TqmulebebSi da

qarTul xalxur zRaprebSi.

Aaseve sufTa qarTuli cnebaa

adgilis deda, romelic aseve

bevr miTSia moxsenebuli da va-

Ja-fSavelas nawarmoebebSi. oCo-

pintre, oCokoCi, alebi... es su-

lebia, zogi tyis suli, zogi

mcenareebis da zogic cxovele-

bis mfarveli, aseve loculobd-

nen fuZis angelozzec.

_ es rusuli “domovois” ms-

gavsi xom araa?

_ ojaxis mfarveli angelo-

zi iyo. saerTod, TviT sityva

angelozic Semosulia, araa qar-

Tuli da ra saxeli erqva maSin

garkveul SemTxvevebSi, Zneli

saTqmelia. warmarTebi Tavisi

arsiT axlos iyvnen bunebasTan

da yvelaferSi sicocxles,

suls xedavdnen. warmarTulSic

iyo mTavari RmerTi, romelmac

samyaro Seqmna. cneba mama Rmer-

Ti qristianobamde bevr qveyana-

Si arsebobda - CvenSic, egvip-

teSic, saberZneTSic. aseve iyv-

nen naxevradRmerTebi, avi sule-

bi. Kkargad mogexsenebaT, rom

elia Weqa-quxilis RmerTi iyo,

qalRmerTi dali nadirobis, mag-

ram CvenTvis TeTri giorgi iyo

yvelaze Zlieri, qarTveli gle-

xi mas scemda yvelaze did pa-

tivs. is iyo mebrZolic da Sro-

mis RmerTic. saerTod, yvelafe-

ri erTi Ziridan iRebs saTaves

da yvela religia kavSirSia er-

TmaneTTan.

- qristianobis Semosvlam es

yvelaferi warsuls Caabara, mag-

ram albaT, aucilebelia Tana-

medroveebma da momavalma Tao-

bebma ufro dawvrilebiT icod-

nen qarTuli miTologiisa da

religiis Sesaxeb...

- qristianuli religia war-

marTuls ebrZoda, magram bevri

ram daviwyebas romaa micemuli,

es istoriulma viTarebamac ga-

napiroba. saqarTveloSi xan vin

batonobda, xan vin: arabebi,

Turqebi, sparselebi, mere ru-

sebi. Yyvela dampyrobeli cdi-

lobda yvelaferi qarTuli gae-

nadgurebina da mieCqmala. me

amaswinandel interviuSic aRv-

niSne, rom kodoris xeobis da-

kargviT Cven ara marto teri-

toriuli mniSvnelobis, didi

ezoTeruli datvirTvis mqone

adgili davkargeT, es xom qal-

RmerT dalis xeobaa. qarTuli

religiis fesvebi aseve Zvel

qarTul anbanSic unda veZioT,

Cven rom axla vlaparakobT, sa-

daoa, es ena ramdenadaa qarTu-

li. detalebis garkveva da ga-

Sifvra istorikosebis saqmea,

magram vimeoreb: ZiriTad in-

formacias mainc qarTul miTo-

logiidan, Tqmulebebidan, Se-

locvebidan da xalxuri zRap-

rebidan miviRebT.

nunu margiani: me didixa-

nia qarTul medicinas Seviswav-

li, mivdev am saqmes da vici,

rogori mravalferovani buneba

gvaqvs. es TavisTavad niSnavs

imasac, rom mdidaria samkurna-

lo mcenareebiT. Cveni winapari

aris medea da es udidesi mov-

lenaa Cvens istoriaSi. Tqven

gexsomebaT periodi, roca sa-

qarTveloSi tibeturi medici-

nis bumi daiwyo. maSin Camovida

erT-erTi tibeteli beri da in-

terviuSi xazgasmiT aRniSna, ga-

vecani Tqvens qveyanas da mik-

virs, ra gWirT samagiso, Cvens

medicinaze ase gadairioTo. Cven,

tibetelebs, Tqvengan gvaqvs mi-

Rebuli bevri codna da kidev

unda gamovikvlioT da gadavi-

RoTo. aseve am tibetelma moZR-

varma isaubra medeaze da aRniS-

na, rom medeam oqros sawmisis

gatacebasTan erTad kolxuri

samedicino codnac waiRo da

iqedan ganivrco yvelgan. Cven,

tibetelebma es ZvelTaZveli

codna SemovinaxeT da ganvavr-

ceT, rogorc sxva bevrma erma

Tavis qveyanaSi.

medeas hqonda baRi, romel-

Sic uamravi samkurnalo mcenare

xarobda. am mcenareebis Sesaxeb

maSindel kolxeTSi yvelam ico-

da, droTa ganmavlobaSi bevri

ram daikarga. ase rom, me da Cem-

nairebi dakarguls veZebT, raime

axals ki ara?!

Tamuna qadagiZe

qarTuli warmarTobaTanamedrove TvaliT

saqarTvelos himnad

zedgamoWrilia ,,ni-

kolSous’’ _ Seberi-

lebi! kacs rom mo-

mavlis sworad dagegmva ar Se-

giZlia, ra cudia, amerCia fsi-

qiatria ra, sul mokle xanSi

rigi dadgeba pacientebis.

mraval qveyanaSi vyo-

filvar, Sida qalaqe-

bic minaxavs, msgavss

ar Sevxvedrivar ar-

sad, ra ubedurebaa, yvela qa-

laqis centrSi policiis Se-

noba gegebeba pirvelad!..sxvisi

ar vici, magram Cemze Zalian

cudad moqmedebs!

oci welia ukve erTi

da igive saxeebi ang-

reven am qveyanas da,

Semdeg isev Tavad ib-

rZvian dangreulis asaSeneb-

lad, ise gveCxubebian tele-ek-

ranebidan, TiTqos Cven davaSa-

veT rame... Cven, sazogadoeba,

mxolod erT rames vaSavebT...

amaT rom vitanT!

ra mainteresebs, ic-

iT? adamianebi, rom-

lebic sami Tvis gan-

mavlobaSi zeserio-

zuli gegmiT muSaobdnen saiu-

veliro maRaziis saqmeze, is

ar icodnen, rom qarTuli si-

garetis kolofi ar unda dae-

tovebinaT nivTmtkicebad? an

oqros gadadnobas maincdamainc

oqromWedeli sWirdeboda? ra

vici...ra vici...sami Tve ra si-

gareti waiRes an ra raodeno-

ba gaatanes sazRvarze da iqi-

dan oqro usafrTxod rogor

gadmoitanes? mdaa, ra ucnauri

istoriaa...

samtredias dRes -er-

Tdroulad ori ube-

dureba daatyda Tavs:

gadauRebliv Tovda

da gaRletilma Semoirbina 15

wuTiT, policiis Senoba gaxs-

na... pirveli ubedureba - kidev

arauSavs! ai, meoreeeeeeeeeeeee!!

kargi niSania! gaRletili

policiis Senobebs xsnis, maRa-

li saavadmyofoebs. rogorc

Cans, policiaSi aRar dagvxo-

caven, kargad dagvJeJaven da

mere mogvaTavseben saavadmyo-

foebSi. SegiZliaT mSvidad

iyoT.

am bolo dros (na-

carxebze) gaaqtiurda

e.w. eqsperti merab

basilaia, romelic

gaxlavT Tbilisis amiras, ugu-

lavas uaxloesi megobari. xo-

lo batoni basilaias meuRle

gaxlavT 1 arxis yofili uf-

rosi, qalbatoni Tamar kinwu-

raSvili, romelic amJamad pre-

zident saakaSvilis mrCevelia.

mokled, Tu rogori damou-

kidebeli eqspertia pativcemu-

li basilaia, Tavad gansajeT...

rogor fiqrobT, jer

jvris monasters da-

vibrunebT da mxo-

lod amis Semdeg Ca-

tardeba evropis Cempionati

saqarTveloSi, Tu piriqiT?

marTla da marTla,

romeli oSkis aRdge-

nas apirebT da vin

bebiaTqveni gekiTxe-

baT, im oSkis aRdgenas, a?... ar

waiRes crupentelaobiT yure-

bi?.. saqarTveloSia es oSki?

araa... aba, maSin saerTod vin

mogcaT ufleba ucxo qveynis

teritoriaze ramis aRdgenis,

Tu tao-klarjeTi davibruneT

da me gamomepara eg ambavi? we-

siT da kanoniT, keTili unda

inebos TurqeTma da Tavis qve-

yanaSi aRdgeniTi samuSaoebi

TviTon da sakuTari xarjebiT

awarmoos... gamomividnen aq

`deda terezebi”.... erTi is

brZaneT, abaa, ra imaleba sinam-

dvileSi mag “miTiuri oSkis”

ukan da ra uflebiT mieciT

Turqebs azizies meCeTis aSene-

bis neba Cvens miwa-wyalze?

ahaaa, ese igi xuTeb-

zec swavlobda da

Tan kide veris baRSi

Cxubobda yovel-

dRe...hi hiii... raebs miacv _ ma-

acvam xolme raa, maRalo, ra

moCxubari da vaJkacic xar qe

vnaxeT agee, gorSi... pipinia

erisTavis ar iyos, sakuTar

dacvas ro gaaswari.

pirdapir ivaniSvil-

ze fulis asaxevi de-

partamenti SeqmeniT

Tqve uptronoebo da

iq daniSneT eg Tqveni dedali

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res arc gagikvirdebodaT, rom

1942 wlamde gamocemul fran-

gul enciklopediebSi qarTve-

lebi msoflioSi ulamazes

rasad moixseniebodnen. mogvia-

nebiT es fraza ratomRac amo-

iRes gamocemidan, riTac qar-

TvelTa saTvistomo aaforia-

qes. dRemde monakos princis

sasaxles amSvenebs mxatvar

saveli sorinis mier Sesru-

lebuli meri ServaSiZis por-

treti. galaktionis muzas pa-

rizSic qarTuli arapunqtua-

lobiT gamoarCevdiT, yovelT-

vis yvelgan agvianebda. ekle-

siaSic mudam dagvianebiT mi-

dioda da, mrevlze erTi Ta-

viT maRali yvelas yuradRebas

ipyrobda. aki, ruseTis impera-

tor nikoloz meores swored

dagvianebuli SeefeTa meri

ServaSiZe, roca dakrZalvis

dRes SavebiT Semosili frei-

linebis rigSi yvelaze bolos

Cadga. Tumca amas xeli ar Se-

uSlia nikoloz meoris yu-

radReba miepyro da imperato-

risgan Semdegi sityvebi daem-

saxurebina: „ãðåøíî áûòüòàêîé êðàñèâîé!”

ratom daawyviles meri

ServaSiZisa da galaktionis

saxelebi maSin, roca Tavad

poeti ise gardaicvala, sai-

dumlosTvis farda ar aux-

dia?! galaktions rom cxov-

rebis mimarT undobloba hqon-

da, es cxadia, magram meris mi-

marT misi damokidebuleba im

aisbergs hgavda, romlis nawi-

lic wylis zemoT amotivtiv-

deboda, nawili ki wyalqveS

ifareboda. poeti yovelTvis

Tavs aridebda masze saubars

da iribi RimiliT agrZnobi-

nebda Tanamosaubres, rom sur-

vili ar hqonda, farda aexada

idumalisTvis.

iSviaTad ityoda, arcerT

meris ar vicnobdi, konkretu-

lad aravin migulisxmebiao,

xandaxan ki aRniSnavda, Cemi

meri realuria da cxadio. ga-

oreba Tavad meri ServaSiZesac

etyoboda. marTalia, katego-

riulad gamoricxavda galak-

tionTan nacnobobas, magram,

roca eubnebodnen, maRali

wris qalbatoni yuradRebas

ratom miaqcevdiT ubralo

ymawvilso, misi aristokrati-

uli Tavmoyvareoba kmayofil-

deboda. swored aseTi ram Se-

uniSnavs misTvis medea jafa-

riZes, romelsac bolomde

surda, galaktionisa da meris

platonuri trfialebis le-

genda ar momkvdariyo.

gaurkvevlobam galaktio-

nologebSic gadainacvla da

azrTa sxvadasxvaoba gamoiw-

via. erTni fiqrobdnen, rom me-

ris prototipi afxazeTis

mTavarTa STamomavlis, gene-

ral-maior prokofi ServaSi-

Zis asuli, ruseTis imperato-

ris dedis freilina, amave sa-

xelis mqone meri ServaSiZe

gaxldaT (Tamaz nadareiSvi-

lis bebia). sxvaTaSoris, Cven

davukavSirdiT nadareiSvile-

bis ojaxs, magram maT gamo-

ricxes galaktionTan misi wi-

napris nacnoboba, radgan maT

bebias arasdros ucxovria qu-

TaisSi, is soxumis mkvidri

gaxldaT da mogvianebiT kons-

tantine lakerbaias misTxov-

da, romelmac sicocxle TviT-

mkvlelobiT daasrula.

poetis ZmisSvilma, nodar

tabiZem rogorc gviTxra, „ga-

laktioni iseTi mondomebiT

eZebda idealur qals, rom me-

ri ServaSiZe iqneboda Tu ol-

ia okujava, misTvis principu-

li mniSvneloba arc

hqonia. is mainc Seqm-

nida meris msgavs ar-

sebas. ra Tqma unda,

galaktioni quTaisSi

meris Tvals auci-

leblad mokravda,

miT ufro maSin, ro-

ca meri im dros

ulamazesad iyo aRia-

rebuli da maSindel

JurnalSic gaxldaT

dabeWdili misi su-

raTi. galaktionisT-

vis yvelafris miwera

arasworia. „meri“ mi-

si warmosaxvis nayo-

fia da ara baironis

gamoZaxili,“_ miiC-

nevs nodar tabiZe.

yuradsaRebia la-

do gudiaSvilis mo-

naTxrobic. erTxel

galaktionma tilo momitana

da mTxova, meri ServaSiZis

suraTi damixateo... siyva-

ruls malva undao, _naTqvamia

da yvelaze ukeT galaktionis

ganwyobas albaT, misive sity-

vebi gadmoscems: „meri ki...

albaT, arsebobda. iyo aseTi

qali!“ rezo TabukaSvili ix-

senebda, roca parizSi myof

meri ServaSiZes galaktionisa

da leqsi „meris“ Sesaxeb

vkiTxe, mipasuxa, rom galak-

tions arc icnobda da arc mi-

si arsebobis Sesaxeb icoda

rame. magram amay qals isic

daumatebia, Tu namdvilad mo-

miZRvna galaktionma es leqsi,

rogorc axla iwereba, ra

Tqma unda, bednieri viqnebo-

dio.

rac Seexeba inesa merabiS-

vils, igi miiCnevs, rom galak-

tioni kargad icnobda lord

baironis cxovrebasa da Semoq-

medebas. metic, galaktionma

da olia okujavam

„baironi“ uwodes

borjomSi erT gan-

martoebul naZvs.

literaturis muze-

umSi dacul poetis

xelnawerTa Soris

ki moinaxa erTi gac-

recili furceli,

sadac galaktioni

baironis poemas „Ca-

ild harolds“ axse-

nebs, imave furclis

qveda nawilze ki mi-

werilia galaktio-

nis miZRvna olia

okujavasadmi:

„Cemo olia! dRe-

vandeli dRe

baironi da gvi-

Ciolia...“

inesa merabiSvilis azriT,

am strofSi galaktioni oli-

as baironisa da misi satrfos

_ tereza gviCiolis (baironis

ukanaskneli siyvaruli, ro-

melsac lordi italiaSi Sex-

vda) Sesaxeb esaubreba.

„ras unda niSnavdes galak-

tionis naTqvami: „dRevandeli

dRe baironi da gviCiolia?“

pirvel rigSi, albaT imas, rom

galaktioni da oliac iseve

daSordebian erTmaneTs, ro-

gorc baironi da gviCioli! da

gana ase ar moxda galaktioni-

sa da olias cxovrebaSi?!“_

acxadebs inesa merabiSvili.

im fonze, rodesac ramde-

nime meri iCemebda galaktio-

nis muzis tituls da galak-

tionic daufaravad ambobda,

ise momabezres Tavi qalebma,

rom yvelas veubnebi, „meri“

Sen giZRvenio, namdvili meri

Cumad iyo. sxvebisgan gansxva-

vebiT, meri ServaSiZis mokrZa-

leba aSkara iyo. uaRresad

Tavmdabal arsebad daamaxsov-

rda igi TaTuli RviniaSvils,

TbilisSi kargad cnobili

aristokratis _babo dadianis

qaliSvils, romlis mejvarec

adre Tavad meri ServaSiZe

gaxldaT. qalbatoni TaTuli,

dedis msgavsad, darwmunebu-

lia, rom galaktionma swored

meri ServaSiZes miuZRvna leq-

si meri da ara baironis sat-

rfos.

„kolau nadiraZe CvenTan

ise ar movidoda, ar gaexsene-

bina: me, galaktioni da vale-

rian gafrindaSvili meris

jvrisweraze eklesiaSi viyavi-

To. im dRes, Turme, sastikad

cioda, rac galaktionis leq-

sSicaa asaxuli. sxvaTaSoris,

dedaCems galaktionisa da me-

ris urTierTobis dasturad

isic mohyavda, rom galaktio-

ni masTan Sexvedrisas yovel-

Tvis moikiTxavda xolme pari-

zul ambebs da, gansakuTrebiT,

meris gaTxovebis sakiTxiT in-

teresdeboda. miT ufro, rom

meri ServaSiZes ulamazesi me-

uRle _ giguSa erisTavi ukve

gardacvlili hyavda. Cvens

Worikana emigrantebs Sorisac

ar gaxmianebula iseTi ram,

rom giguSas Semdeg meris ara-

Tu meore qmari, megobaric ki

hyolodes, imdenad amaRlebu-

li grZnobiT iyo gamsWvalu-

li gardacvlili meuRlis mi-

marT,“_ gviTxra TaTuli Rvi-

niaSvilma.

qarTvel Tu rus emigrant

Tayvanismcemlebs meri Serva-

SiZis trfialSi ar gaumarT-

laT, uSvilo meri gadayoli-

li gaxldaT disSvilebze da

mogvianebiT, avtoavariaSi di-

sSvilis daRupvis ambavi Zli-

er ganicada.

TaTuli RviniaSvilma isic

gaixsena, rom mefis sasaxleSi

gamarTul erT-erT wveuleba-

ze nikoloz meoris naTesavi

mSvenieri hercoginia lixten-

bergskaia meri ServaSiZis si-

lamaziT gaognebula. roca

lixtenbergskaias qarTveli

freilina gaacnes, uTqvams,

amis naxevari silamazis mqone

qarTveli mamakaci rom maCvena,

colad daufiqreblad gavyve-

bodio. meris uTqvams, axlave

SemiZlia gagacnoT aseTi pi-

rovnebao da im dRes paJTa

korpusis wveulebaze moriged

myofi, silamaziT ganTqmuli

levan meliqiSvili warudge-

nia. lixtenbergskaia da levan

meliqiSvili SeuRlebulan.

gasabWoebis Semdeg, 1921

wels giguSa erisTavsa da me-

ri ServaSiZes gadasaxleba mo-

uwiaT. giguSa erisTavs, ro-

gorc nikoloz meoris ofi-

cers, saqarTveloSi dauxvre-

tavad aravin datovebda. amde-

nad, rogorc Cans, marto xe-

lovnebisadmi siyvaruliT ar

unda iyos ganpirobebuli meri

ServaSiZis modeloba. safran-

geTSi Casul qarTul emigra-

cias Tavidan Zlier uWirda

da merimac miiRo cnobili mo-

delioris koko Sanelis SeTa-

vazeba, gamxdariyo misi muza

da Sesabamisad, pirveli mode-

li qali. 1921 wels ki stam-

bolSi silamazis msoflio

konkursis gamarjvebuli gax-

da. meris werilebi visac wa-

ukiTxavs, erTxmad aRiarebs,

rom igi faqizi bunebis, ro-

mantikuli qali iyo. esec iq-

neboda mizezi, rom meuRlis

gardacvalebis Semdeg bulo-

nis tyis siaxloves mdgar

mSvenier saxlSi guli ar da-

udgeboda da moxucTa TavSe-

safarSi arCevda wasvlas.

meri ServaSiZis gardacva-

leba qarTul emigracias di-

dad ganucdia. RvTaebrivi Ri-

milisa da mocisfro-monac-

risfro Tvalebis mqone qali

xom maTi gamorCeuli saxe

iyo, romelsac yvelaferi epa-

tieboda, Tundac saqarTvelo-

dan Casuli Tanamemamuleebis

gacilebisas baqanze dagviane-

ba, Tundac wveulebis dasas-

ruls misvla... qalbaton Ta-

Tulis roca acilebdnen, emig-

rantebi xumrobdnen, meri rom

mova, ukve TbilisSi iqnebio.

marTlac, matareblis gasvlas

wamebi aklda, roca meri

gamoCnda da fanjridan kupeSi

iebi Seafrqvia.

manana nozaZe

meri ki, albaT, arsebobda...


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CCaarrllii CCaapplliinnii ffrraannggii iiyyoo??bolo dros

gavrcelda cno-

bebi imis Sesaxeb,

rom, SesaZloa,

cnobili komiko-

si Carli Caplini

safrangeTSi an

ruseTSi yofi-

liyos dabadebu-

li.

Carli Capli-

niT karga xans

amayobda inglisi,

magram aRmoCnda,

rom Carli did

britaneTSi ki

ara safrangeTSi

yofila dabade-

buli da izrael

tornSteini rq-

mevia.

saidumlo cn-

obebiT bevr iseT

rames aexada fa-

rda, rasac spec-

samsaxurebis Ta-

namSromelTa ga-

oceba mohyva.

jer erTi, rom

arqivSi ver miag-

nes vercerT da-

m ad a sture b el

dokuments imis Sesaxeb, rom Carli Caplini london-

Si daibada. misi biografiiT aSS-i mas Semdeg dain-

teresda, rac is amerikidan wavida 1929 wels. mize-

zad dasaxelda is, rom msaxiobs garkveuli saxis kav-

Sirebi hqonda komunistebTan.

oficialuri informaciiT, Carli Caplini 1889

wlis 16 aprils daibada saxlSi, romelic londo-

nis erT-erT raionSi uolvortSi ist-stritze mde-

bareobda. man hitlers dabadebamde oTxi dRiT daas-

wro.

skotlend-iardi saidumlo dokumentaciaze dayr-

dnobiT, acxadebs, rom, SesaZloa, komikosi fonteneb-

losTan axlos, parizis samxreTiT yofiliyos daba-

debuli.

kvleva gagrZelda, magram fontenebloSi Caplinis

adgilsamyofelis kvali arsad Canda, verc fonteneb-

losTan axlo qalaq melunSic veravTari cnobebi ver

moipoves. ase rom, genialuri msaxiobis dabadebis ad-

gili dRemde ucnobi rCeba.

SemorCenili dokumentebi, romelic didi brita-

neTis nacionalur arqivSi inaxeba, aCens eWvs, rom

Carli Caplini, SesaZloa, ruseTidan iyos. es mosaz-

reba eyrdnoba TviT Carli Caplinis sityvebs, rome-

lSic `ruseTSi dabrunebaze~ laparakobda.

skotlend-iardis erT-erTi umaRlesi Cinovniki

wers: `aseTi tipis mosazrebebi imis gamo SeiZlebo-

da gaCeniliyo, rom msaxiobi xSirad ambobda, rom ki-

dev erTxel unda wasuliyo ruseTSi. wina saukuneSi

bevri ebraeli gaiqca ruseTSi, SesaZloa, Caplinis

ojaxic iyo im gaqceulebs Soris~.

jon merioti wers: `ra Tqma unda, sainteresoa,

Caplinis dabadebis adgilis Sesaxeb cnobebi, magram

me vfiqrob, rom es informacia saidumlo unda iyos

qveynis usafrTxoebisTvis~.

mogexsenebaT, Carli Caplinma kariera britaneTis

estradis scenaze daiwyo, 1910 wels aSS-Si gadavi-

da sacxovreblad. holivudSi gadaiRo uamravi fil-

mi, romelTagan yvelaze cnobili `patara mawanwalas~

dasamaxsovrebeli saxea.

1950-ian wlebSi, roca vaSingtoni makartizmis

paranoiam Seipyro da iqauroba sabWoTa agentebiT ga-

ivso, udidesma komikosma komunistebisadmi simpaTia

gamoamJRavna. amasTanave sazogadoebaSi cxare kamaTi

midioda mis qorwinebebze _ igi orjer daqorwinda

16 wlis qaliSvilebze, Semdeg aSS-is moqalaqeoba Ca-

moarTves imis gamo, rom man TiTqos ukanono bavSvi

iSvila da saxelmwifos 2 mln. dolaris gadasaxade-

bi daumala.

1952 wels Caplini kvlav did britaneTSi dab-

runda. mas qveynidan gasvlaSi generaluri prokuro-

ri jeims makgreineric daexmara, Tumca, mogvianebiT,

kvlevebis Sedegad, ar aRmoCnda arc erTi cnoba imis

Sesaxeb, rom mTavari mizezebi aSS-dan gaZevebisa _

komunistebTan kavSirebi dadasturebuliyo.

Carli Caplini 1977 wels ise gardaicvala, rom

sabWoTa kavSirSi erTxelac ar yofila.

aSS-is saidumlo dokumentaciaSi ki miTiTebulia:

`Cven ar gvaqvs arc erTi damadasturebeli dokumen-

ti imisa, rom Carli Caplini komunistebTan raime sa-

xis kavSirSi yofiliyos eWvmitanili. SesaZloa, ko-

munistebi iyenebdnen mis saxelsa da avtoritets...

SesaZloa, Caplinic uTanagrZnobda maT, miT ufro,

rom msaxiobi xasiaTiT Zalian radikali iyo da

`progresul~ ideebs iziarebda.

gasul wels intrigam ganviTareba hpova. aRmoCe-

nili iqna werili, romelic naTels hfens Caplinis

dabadebis saidumlos. Caplinma es werili 1970 wels

miiRo da Tavisi samuSao magidis ujraSi saidumlod

inaxavda. werilSi moTxrobili iyo imis Sesaxeb, rom

Caplini daibada boSaTa banakSi, romelic misi daba-

debis periodSi birmingemis siaxloves iyo ganlage-

buli.

lleeggeennddaarruullii mmeessiinnggiiamboben, rom legendaruli volf mesingi hanuse-

nis, hitleris piradi naTelmxilvelis moswavle iyo.

TviTon volf grigoreviCi arasdros laparakobda

amaze. volf mesingi araerTxel Sexvda hanusens da

mis SesaZleblobebs yovelTvis didad afasebda.

mesingisTvis hanusens mxolod erTi ram SeiZleboda

eswavlebina _ moexveWa Zalaufleba. hanusenma Zali-

an bevri icoda da amitomac moipova Seucvleli ad-

gili fiureris garemocvaSi, Tumca, igi mainc daxv-

rita hitlerma ZaRliviT nagavsayrelze. mesingi

swavlobda am `gakveTilebze~ da cdilobda Tavi da-

eWira ZlierTa ama qveynisaTagan, magram mis cxovre-

baSi iyo momentebi, roca is, rogorc ityvian, danis

pirze idga da ar SeeZlo sakuTari survilis mixed-

viT emoqmeda.

rac mesingi faSistebs gamoeqca da poloneTidan

pirdapir moskovSi Cavida, sabWoTa liderebs da-

uaxlovda. hitlerTan yofnisas fiurers uwinaswar-

metyvela saboloo saSineli kraxi. mis codnas iye-

nebdnen stalini da beria. arsebobs legenda, rom

volf gregoreviCi yovelgvari dokumentaciisa da

saSvis gareSe moxvda kremlSi. roca stalini See-

kiTxa, rogor moaxerxa es, mesingma upasuxa: `iseTi

saxe miviRe, TiTqos beria viyavi, dacva sul fexis

wverebze dadga da

mowiwebiT mesal-

mebodneno~.

lavrenti pav-

les Zem kargad

uwyoda mesingis

SesaZleblobebis

Sesaxeb da gasca

brZaneba, ar gaeS-

vaT is HKBÄ –s

Senobidan. Tumca,

mesingi arasdros

epueboda berias,

rodesac fanjara-

Si Tvals mohkrav-

da, xels dauqnev-

da xolme.

volf mesingma

iwinaswarmetyvela

II msoflio omis

dawyebis TariRi

_ 1941 wlis 22 ivnisi, agreTve or weliwadnaxev-

riT adre iwinaswarmetyvela faSisturi germaniis ka-

pitulacia. sxvaTaSoris, es saxalxod ganacxada. man

aseve iwinaswarmetyvela meuRlis gardacvalebis Ta-

riRi da sakuTari aRsasrulis dRec.

adamiani _ gamocanaCven vijeqiT erTmaneTis pirispir. mas maRali

Subli hqonda, sqeli, xuWuWi Tmebi, ramdenadme dab-

neuli gamometyveleba. is mSvidi iyo TiTqos da gul-

grili, laparakobda gamorCeuli aqcentiT. momentSi,

roca man xeli aswia, gardaisaxa da saxe gamoucocx-

lda. TvalebSi sxivi Caudga am gaelvebaSi man SeiZi-

na araCveulebrivi Zala da mzad iyo Tavisi SesaZleb-

lobebi gamomeJRavnebina. vigrZeni, rom Cems winaSe iv-

lisis xvatSi `gacurda~ oTaxi, yvelaferi irweoda,

tortmanebda... TiTqos uCinari xeli Seexo Cems

tvins. mosaubrem aswia xeli, _ ase gavicani volf me-

singi. Tavisi qmedebebiT TiTqos mamowmebda, Tanac

marwmunebda Tavis SesaZleblobebSi.

garkveuli drois Semdeg misi Tvalebi Cveulebriv

formas daubrunda, daZabuli saxe dauwynarda. Cems

winaSe idga keTili, rbili kaci, me mas Sevxvdi sam-

jer da yovel Sexvedraze sul sxvadasxva adamiani

iyo. is mudam gamoucnobi iyo yvelasTvis. es iyo ada-

miani _ gamocana, _ ixsenebs kremlis maRalCinosani.

jadoqari scenaze1966 wlis dekemberSi rostovis filarmoniis

darbazSi nemsi ar Cavardeboda. scenaze naTurebis

TvalismomWreli naTebis fonze idga magi, telepati,

saswaulmoqmedi da Sehyurebda asobiT Tvali. man xe-

lebi gulze daikrifa, kargad Canda, rom igi kolo-

salur Sinagan daZabulobas grZnobda.

mayureblebi kiTxvebs svamdnen, erTmaneTze ufro

rTuls da TiTqmis Seusrulebels. volf mesingi

swrafad gada-

adg ilde boda

darbazSi, pou-

lobda sagul-

dagulod dama-

lul nivTebs,

50 wlis ganmav-

lobaSi ase po-

ulobda dakar-

gul sagnebs.

mxolod er-

Txel ver moa-

xerxa dakargu-

li nivTis pov-

na. es iyo kan-

feti, romelic

mayurebelma SeWama. maSin mesingi mivida mayurebelTan

da uTxra: `me ar var qirurgi~.

mesingis erT-erTi gamosvlisas odesis didi dar-

bazis scenaze masTan axalgazrda mRvdeli mivida.

_ Tu pativcemuli fsiqologi Seasrulebs Cems

davalebas, me Cems movaleobebs ugulebelvyof.

darbazi gaisusa. mesingma azrobrivi davalebiT

darbazidan gamoiZaxa gogona, aiRo patara jvari da

Semoutara Tavis garSemo. SeZrwunebulma mRvdelma

xelebi gulze daido da Tqva: `WeSmaritad geubnebiT

_ zustad ase mqonda Cafiqrebuli~.

gamosvlis Semdeg, _ Tqva volf grigoreviCma, ma-

yureblebi uamrav SekiTxvas misvamdnen, migzavnidnen

asobiT werils. Sinaarsi erTi da igive iyo: agvixse-

niT, geTayva, rogor akeTebT amas?

TviTon ar vicodi, rogor vakeTebdi yovelives.

mogonebebSi mesingi Semdeg wers: jer kidev sru-

liad patara bavSvi viyavi, roca scenaze Cems eqst-

ravagantur partniorTan wverebian qalbatonTan er-

erik hanuseni

ainStainivolfmesingi

mesingi scenaze


Tad gamovdio-

di, romelic

scenaze siamis

tyupebiviT ux-

elo mamakacis

TanxlebiT sa-

cirko sanaxao-

bebs asruleb-

da. uxelo kaci

fexebiT Tama-

Sobda karts,

eweoda siga-

rets, xatavda

m a y ur e b elTa

suraTebs. iqve

minis kuboSi

viweqi me, `u-

sulo jadoqari _ biWi~. me SemeZlo didxans Semeka-

vebina sunTqva. aqedan daiwyo yvelaferi. erTxel

SimSiliT guli wamivida, mkvdari vegone da kinaRam

damasaflaves. sami dRis Semdeg, roca ukve saZmo

saflavSi unda Cavewvine, fsiqiatrma da nevropaTo-

logma profesorma abelma SemTxveviT damibruna si-

cocxle. amis Semdeg daviwye aqtiuri gamosvlebi

scenaze.

1915 wels mesingi venaSi gaemgzavra. iq is al-

bert ainStains warudgines. ainStaini Zalian dainte-

resda jadoqari biWunaTi, miT umetes, rom maSin uk-

ve werdnen gazeTebi mis Sesaxeb. ainStainma moiwvia

zigmund froidi `saswaulebrivi-bavSvis~ sanaxavad.

froidi azrobrivad karnaxobda mesings, aeRo pince-

ti da moeWra ainStainisTvis Tmis ori Reri.

mogvianebiT mesingi impresario kobiakTan moxvda

da masTan erTad moiara yvela kontinenti.

ucxoeTSi gamosvlebi advili ar iyo, magram

ssrk-Si aravis sjeroda magebisa da telepatebis.

imaSi dasarwmuneblad, rom araviTari magia, mTavari

iyo telepatiuri niWi, mesingma dakarguli nivTebis

povnisa da cifrebis gamocnobis meTodi airCia. es

Zlier STabeWdilebas axdenda.

rigaSi aseTi nomeri Caatara: Cajda avtomobilSi

da mTeli qalaqi Tvalebaxveulma moiara. xeli saWe-

ze hqonda, fexebi pedalze, gverdiT ejda mZRoli da

azrobrivad gadascemda, ra unda ekeTebina. amas xe-

davda asobiT rigeli. manamde arasdros vmjdarvar

saWesTano, _ ixsenebda Semdeg volf mesingi.

yvela adamianSi aris gansakuTrebuli SesaZleb-

lobebi, me amas vgrZnob, roca Sevdivar kontaqtSi,

_ ambobda erT interviuSi didi magi. magram umete-

sobas es SesaZleblobebi ar aqvs ganviTarebuli. es

isevea, rogorc musikaluri niWi, romelsac Tu ar

ganaviTareb, upatronod darCeba.

mesingma araerTxel sTxova mecnierebs, SeeqmnaT

misi tvinis Semswavleli laboratoria, magram xeli-

suflebas eSinoda: vaiTu, raRac moulodnelobas

aexados farda?!

mesingi gardaicvala da Tan waiRo Tavisi cxov-

rebis saidumloeba. misi arqivi kgb-m waiRo da dRem-

de xelmiuwvdomelia.

dRes Tamamad SeiZleba imis Tqma, rom mesingi

flobda telepatiis umaRles niWs. is TviTonve la-

parakobda amis Sesaxeb.

mmooaammzzaaddaa

ana vadaWkoriam

iciT saidan modis qarTuli

fulis Seqmnis istoria? mone-

tis moWra ZiriTadad, saxelmwi-

fos uflebamosilebaa. moneta

aris xelisuflebis erT-erTi

umTavresi niSani, rasac saxelm-

wifo samoneto regalia ewode-

ba. xelisuflebis interesebis,

droisa da pirobebis Sesabamisad

icvleboda monetis garegnuli

mxare – zed aRbeWdili mefeebis

saxelebi, warweraTa Sinaarsi,

monetebis formebi. saqarTvelo-

Si ar aris kuTxe, sadac Semo-

naxuli ar iyos Soreuli war-

sulis numizmatikuri Zegli –

sxvadasxva liTonisagan damzade-

buli monetebi. mravalsaukuno-

vani arsebobis manZilze saqarT-

velo iyo kulturuli da civi-

lizebuli samyaros mniSvnelo-

vani movlenebis monawile. qar-

Tuli monetebi ki zustad asa-

xaven Cveni qveynis warsuls. fu-

lis gaCenamde fulis niSnebis

magivrad iyenebdnen sxvadasxva

sagans – sameurneo an sabrZolo

iaraRs, tyav-bewveuls, piru-

tyvs, liTonis zodebs.

msoflioSi pirveli fuli

gaCnda Zveli welTaRricxviT

VII saukuneSi kunZul

eginaze (egeosis

zRva), sadac ver-

cxlis monetebi

moWres. faseulo-

bis es sazomi

swrafad gavrcel-

da imdroindel

kulturul qveyneb-

Si. saqarTveloSi, ker-

Zod, Zvel kolxeTSi,

Zveli welTaRricxviT

VI saukuneSi ukve mi-

moqcevaSi iyo vercxlis

moneta “kolxuri TeTri”,

romelic msoflios uZveles

monetebs miekuTvneba. saqarTve-

loSi aRmoCenili monetebis

Tanmimdevruli cvalebadoba

zustad asaxavs qveyanaSi momx-

dar istoriul movlenebs. qar-

Tuli monetebis mimoqcevis 26

saukunovan periodSi fuli icv-

leboda garegnulad, icvleboda

warwerebi maTze da TviTon li-

Tonic. zogjer moWril fulze

ucxo siuJetebi da ucxouri

warwerebi Cndeboda. es nakarna-

xevi iyo politikur-ekonomiku-

ri miznebiT. qar-

Tulwarweriani

monetebi mcire

r a o d e n o b i T

iWreboda. ga-

cilebiT me-

tia orenova-

ni monetebi –

qarTul-berZ-

nuli, qar-

Tul-arabuli,

qarTul-sparsu-

li.

VI saukunis 80-ian

wlebSi qarTlSi gauqmebu-

li iyo mefoba. aq arabebi bato-

nobdnen. qarTveli eri damouki-

deblobisaTvis ibrZoda. am

brZolaSi erT-erTi umniSvnelo-

vanesi movlena iyo qarTuli mo-

netis moWra, romelTac asom-

Tavruli warwerebi da qristia-

nuli religiis simbolo – jva-

ri amSvenebdaT. es monetebi iW-

reboda qarTlis erismTavrebis

gurgenisa da stefanozis mier.

qveynis erovnuli aRorZineba sa-

moneto saqmeSic aisaxeboda

xolme. daviT

III kurapa-

l a t m a

m o W -

ra ver-

cxlis moneta, ro-

melzec gamosaxuli iyo jvari

da ewera: “qriste Seiwyale da-

viT kurapalati”. gaerTianebuli

saqarTvelos pirveli mefe bag-

rat III arabuli tipis monetas

Wrida, rac ekonomikuri mosaz-

rebiT iyo ganpirobebuli. bag-

rat mefis monetaze qarTuli

asomTavruliT ewera: “qriste

adide bagrat afxazTa mefe”.

roca giorgi III-m Tavisi asuli

Tanamosaydred

g a m o a c x a d a ,

moWra moneta,

romelzec mox-

s e n i e b u l n i

arian “mefeT-

mefe giorgi”

da “mefe da

dedofali Ta-

mari”. monetaze

mxolod qar-

Tuli warwe-

raa. daviT aR-

m a S e n e b l i s

unikalur mo-

netaze, rome-

lic britane-

Tis muzeumSia

daculi, aseTi

qarTuli zed-

w e r i l i a :

“qriste, adide

daviT, mefe afxazTa,

qarTvelTa, ranTa,

kaxTa da somex-

Ta”.

q a r T u l i

monetebi Zun-

wad mogviTx-

roben im

tr a g e d i a s ,

rac Tavs aty-

deboda xolme

saqarTvelos ga-

reSe mterTagan.

“mona yaenisa, mefe da-

viT” – aseTi damamcirebeli

sparsuli zedwerili hqonda da-

viT VI narinis monetebs. mone-

tebze aRbeWdili zedwerilis

erT-erTi mniSvnelovani nawilia

TariRi, romelic monetis moW-

ris droze miuTiTebs. rusudan

mefis vercxlis monetebze qar-

Tuli zedwerilia: “saxeliTa

RvTisaiTa iWeda qoronikonsa

450. (Zvel saqarTveloSi saku-

Tari welTaRricxva arsebobda

da mas qoronikons uwodeben. Ta-

riRis aRsaniSnavad, cifrebis

nacvlad xmarobdnen anbanis aso-

ebs, romelTac ricxviTi mniSv-

neloba hqondaT. CvenSi qoro-

nikoniT welTaRricxva Se-

moiRes axali welTaRricx-

viT 780 wlidan. qarTuli

qoronikoni rom Cveni, dRe-

vandeli welTaRricx-

viT gamoviangari-

SoT, saWiroa qo-

ronikonis ricxvi

mivumatoT 780

wels. magaliTad,

407 qoronikoni

i q n e b a :

780+407=1187 we-

li.

1804 wlidan Tbi-

lisSi daiwyo axali ti-

pis – rusul-qarTuli ver-

cxlisa da spilenZis monete-

bis moWra, romelTa Sublze

qarTuli asoebiT amotvifruli

iyo zarafxana “Tbilisi”, zurg-

ze – nominali, TariRi da mone-

tis momWrelis rusuli inicia-

lebi. 1918 wlis 26 maiss Seiq-

mna damoukidebeli saqarTvelos

demokratiuli respublika.

droebiTma mTavrobam sakuTari

fulis niSnebis SemoReba ga-

dawyvita. 1919 wlidan brunvaSi

iyo saqarTvelos demokratiuli

respublikis fulis bonebi, ro-

melTa warwerebic qarTuli iyo,

Tumca ukana mxares rusul-

franguli warwerebic hqonda.

bonebs axlda mTavrobis Tavmj-

domarisa da finansTa ministris

xelmowerebi. saqarTvelos de-

mokratiuli respublikis xeli-

sufleba myari valutis Seqmnas

apirebda, risTvisac eskizic Se-

iqmna, magram 1921 wels sabWoTa

ruseTis mier saqarTvelos aneq-

siam proeqtis ganxorcielebas

xeli SeuSala.

erovnuli valutis SemoReba

moxerxda mxolod 1995 wels.

1995 wlis 2 oqtombridan

brunva daiwyo larma, romlis

qveyanaSi damkvidrebiT qarTuli

fulis moWris tradicia gagr-

Zelda.

zigmundfroidi

qarTuli fulis istoria


dauviwyari kapitani 15 marts 75 wlis

gaxdeboda!yovel Cvengans gan-

sakuTrebuli sibralu-

li gveufleba, rodesac

adamiani tovebs amqvey-

niur samkvidros, mag-

ram kidev ufro dasana-

nia, roca iseTi kaci

midis am qveynidan, ro-

melsac SoTa iamaniZe

hqvia. SoTasTan Sexved-

ra da masTan saubari

didi siamovneba iyo.

kargi mosaubre, ganaT-

lebuli, erudirebuli

kaci iyo. Cveno SoTa,

41 weli gavida, rac

Seni sayvareli mamu-

liSvilebis gareSe

darCi. veRar vixilavT

gulSematkivrebi gun-

dis xerxemals, inte-

leqtualur adamians.

ramdeni ramis gaxseneba

SeiZleba _ rodesac 60-ian wlebSi stadionze Sesvla Zali-

an Wirda, mivdiodiT dinamos bazaze, rom bileTebi rogorme

gveSovna, `zaborebTan~ videqiT, davunaxivar da ori bileTi

gamoutanebia bazis komendanti rubenasaTvis. ikiTxa _ rube-

nam ibo romeliao, me-meTqi (an rogor daminaxa?) es ori bi-

leTi SoTas gamomatanao. amdeni gulSematkivari pirdaRebu-

li miyurebda. me SoTas 35-skolidan vicnobdi, roca miSa sa-

varjiSod midioda xolme, mivyvebodi da iqidan daiwyo Cveni

urTierToba. ukeTilSobilesi kaci iyo. udidesi Sromis Tav-

gametebiT, jafisa da sisxlis safasurad, aunazRaurebel si-

xaruls aniWebda Tavis sayvarel xalxs yvelgan, saqarTvelo-

Si, yofil sabWoTa kavSiris qveynebSi da ucxoeTSi. oh, ro-

gor gvaklixar, Senma ucnaurma sikvdilma, yvelas guli gvat-

kina Znelia uSenoba. Sen xom marto fexburTeli ar yofil-

xar, Sen iyavi yvelasTvis sikeTis mTesveli kaci. batoni an-

dro Jordanias sityvebi gamaxsenda `eh ra biWi iyo! yvela-

feri SeeZlo, `diavol~, mTeli gundi iyoo~. Sen rom cocxa-

li yofiliyavi, albaT ramdens inerviulebdi, Seni SviliS-

vili SoTiko rom daiWires. am unamusoebma amaTma, xom araf-

ris patieba ar ician, aseTi adamianebi patiosnebaze gvelapa-

rakebian. Cemo sayvarelo SoTa, axla zustad SenisTana kaci

sWirdeba qarTul fexburTs, Seni ormoci rom iyo, miSas

cremli moadga Tvalze da Tqva-ibo ormoci dRe gavida da me

kidev ar mjera, TiTqos axla unda Semxvdeso, aseTia qarT-

veli kacis gulistkivili. fexburTs rom Tavi daaneba, muSa-

oba daiwyo Tavisi profesiiT is xom mSenebeli inJineri iyo.

SoTam 1967 wels muSaoba daiwyo Tavisi profesiiT. aqac Ta-

vi gamoiCina, rogorc kargma organizatorma. igi xelmZRvane-

lobda msxvil samSeneblo organizacias. aqac yvelas Seayva-

ra Tavi. es 41 weli TiTqos guSin iyo, ise swrafad gadis

dro. eris SvilTan ganSoreba sevdiania ara marto Seni ax-

loblebisaTvis da naTesavebisaTvis, aramed mTeli qarTveli

xalxisaTvis, romelsac ase Zalian uyvardi. madloba, dido

kaco imisaTvis, rom gaCndi am qveyanaze, rom milionobiT

xalxs amdeni siTbo da sixaruli moutane, kidev imisaTvis,

rom qarTuli niWis demonstrireba moaxdine, imitom rom, da-

ibade da arsebobdi am qveynad, imitom, rom Tbili iyavi yve-

lasaTvis da Tbili darCebi Cvens gulebSi Cveno gemrielo

SoTa. sanam arsebobs qarTuli fexburTi SoTa iamaniZis _

udidesi kapitnis saxeli daviwyebas ar miecema.

ibo doliZe


C M Y K

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prognozi

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ggvvaarreebbiissaass aarr aaCCqqaarrddeeTT __ uuffrroo ggaa-

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rrTTeebbTT.. oojjaaxxSSii mmoommwwiiffeebbuullii kkoonnfflliiqqttiiss

ggaannmmuuxxttvvaa mmxxoolloodd TTqqvveenn SSeeggiiZZlliiaaTT..

kkuurroo __ yyvveellaass,, ggaannssaakkuuTTrreebbiiTT

kkii,, ssaakkuuTTaarrii TTaavviiss mmiimmaarrTT ZZaalliiaann

mmoommTTxxoovvnnii xxaarrTT ddaa uuaarrss vveerraavvii-

ssggaann aaiittaannTT.. ggoonneebbaa kkaarrggaadd ggiimmuu-

SSaavveebbTT ddaa ffiinnaannssuurr pprroobblleemmeebbss SSeessaanniiSSnnaa-

vvaadd aaggvvaarreebbTT.. oojjaaxxSSii ZZaalliiaann mmSSvviiddii ddaa

hhaarrmmoonniiuullii ssiittuuaacciiaa ggaaqqvvTT..

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kkuullii mmddggoommaarreeoobbaa ssaakkmmaaoodd aarraa-

mmddggrraaddiiaa ddaa kkaarrggii iiqqnneebbaa,, TTuu ssii-

mmSSvviiddeess ddaa kkeeTTiillggaannwwyyoobbaass SSeeiinnaa-

rrCCuunneebbTT.. TTuummccaa TTqqvveennss mmaatteerriiaalluurr mmddggoo-

mmaarreeoobbaazzee wwuuwwuunnii nnaammddvviillaadd aarr mmooggiiwweevvTT..

kkiirrCCxxiibbii __ ssiimmSSvviiddee ddaa ggaawwoo-

nnaasswwoorreebbaa ggWWiirrddeebbaaTT.. iimm uuaammrraavvii

ssaaqqmmiiaannii wwiinnaaddaaddeebbiiddaann,, rroommllee-

bbssaacc aamm ddRReeeebbSSii SSeemmooggTTaavvaazzeebbeenn,,

aarrcceerrTTii iivvaarrggeebbss ddaa aammddeennaadd,, ddaaffiiqqrreebbaacc

aarr RRiirrss..

lloommii __ TTuu aamm kkvviirraass aaxxaallii ssaa-

mmssaaxxuurreebbrriivvii rroommaanniiTT ddaaiiwwyyeebbTT,,

aauucciilleebbllaadd ggaammiijjnneeTT eerrTTmmaanneeTTii-

ssggaann ssaaqqmmee ddaa ppiirraaddii ssaakkiiTTxxeebbii..

ssaassiiyyvvaarruulloo uurrTTiieerrTToobbeebbSSii kkii mmaarrTTllaacc

ccxxeellii ddRReeeebbii ggaaqqvvTT..

qqaallwwuullii __ TTqqvveennii kkaarriieerriiss

ssaakkiiTTxxiiTT,, bboollooss ddaa bboollooss,, ssaa-

kkmmaaoodd kkoommppeetteennttuurrii ppiirreebbiicc ddaa-

iinntteerreessddeebbiiaann ddaa ddiiddii xxnniiss nnaa-

nnaattrr wwaarrmmaatteebbaassaacc mmiiaaRRwweevvTT..

ssaasswwoorrii __ eerrTToobblliivv pprroo-

eeqqttzzee iiwwyyeebbTT mmuuSSaaoobbaass,, rroommeelliicc

aauucciilleebbllaadd wwaarrmmaatteebbiiTT ddaaggvvii-

rrggvviinnddeebbaa ddaa aamm ssaaqqmmiiddaann ssxxvveebbzzee

mmeettaadd TTqqvveenn iissaarrggeebblleebbTT.. ffiinnaannsseebbiiss ssaaqqmmee

nnaammddvviillaadd ggaammoosswwoorreebbiiss ggzzaazzeeaa..

mmoorriieellii __ eess kkvviirraa ssaakkmmaaoodd

nneellaa ddaa mmZZiimmeedd iiwwyyeebbaa,, mmaaggrraamm yyvvee-

llaassTTvviiss ddaa ggaannssaakkuuTTrreebbiiTT TTqqvvee-

nnTTvviiss,, mmoouullooddnneellii SSeeddeeggeebbiiTT

ddaassrruullddeebbaa..

mmSSvviillddoossaannii __ mmxxoolloodd kkaa-

rriieerraazzee ffiiqqrroobbTT ddaa TTqqvveennii ppii-

rraaddii ccxxoovvrreebbaa uukkaannaa ppllaannzzee ggaa-

ddaaddiiss.. aarr aarriiss ggaammoorriiccxxuullii,,

rroomm aammiiss ggaammoo ssaakkmmaaoodd mmnniiSSvvnneelloovvaannii mmoo-

vvlleennaa ggaammooggrrCCeeTT ddaa ggvviiaann mmiixxvvddeeTT..

TTxxiiss rrqqaa __ ssaarriisskkoo ssaaqqmmeeeebbss,,

jjoobbiiaa TTaavvii aaaarriiddooTT.. ggaannssaakkuuTTrree-

bbiiTT kkii kkaannoonnssaawwiinnaaaaRRmmddeeggoo qqmmeeddee-

bbeebbss eerriiddeeTT.. oojjaaxxSSii TTiiTTqqmmiiss eerr-

TTggvvaarrii ggaauuccxxooeebbaa SSeeiinniiSSnneebbaa,, mmaaggrraamm ddrroo-

eebbiiTT eerrTTmmaanneeTTiissggaann ddaassvveenneebbaa yyvveellaassaaTTvviiss

ssaassaarrggeebblloo aaRRmmooCCnnddeebbaa..

mmeerrwwyyuullii __ ssaakkmmaaoodd ddaaZZaa-

bbuullii mmoovvlleenneebbiiss cceennttrrSSii aaRRmmoo-

CCnnddeebbiiTT ddaa mmaaqqssiimmaalluurrii SSeemmaarrTTee-

bbiiss ddaa mmooTTmmiinneebbiiss ggaammooCCeennaa mmooggii-

wweevvTT..

TTeevvzzeebbii __ ffiinnaannssuurrii ssaakkii-

TTxxeebbii aamm kkvviirraaSSii nnaakklleebbaadd ggaaddaa-

rrddeebbTT,, oojjaaxxiiss wweevvrreebbssaacc ssaakkmmaaoodd

sseerriioozzuullii pprroobblleemmeebbii aaqqvvTT,, mmaa-

ggrraamm kkvviirriiss bboolloossTTvviiss yyvveellaaffeerrii mmooggvvaa-

rrddeebbaa..

vvaannggaa __ mmssoofflliiooss yyvveellaazzee iinnffoorrmmaacciiuullii qqaallbbaattoonnii

bulgareli wi-

naswarmetyveli _

vanga ambobda, rom

2011 wels radiaq-

tiuli nivTierebe-

bis afeTqebis gamo

CrdiloeT naxevar-

sferoSi ar darCeba

arc erTi cocxali

arseba, arc mcenare.

musulmanebi daiwye-

ben qimiur oms ara-

musulmanebis wina-

aRmdeg.

rogorc vxedavT, nadgurdeba iaponiis flora da fauna.

vangas winaswarmetyvelebis mixedviT, 2014 wels adamianTa

umravlesoba jujobiT, kanis kiboTi da kanis sxva daavadebebiT

dasnebovndebian qimiuri omis Sedegad. ori wlis Semdeg evro-

pa TiTqmis ukacrieli gaxdeba, xolo 2018 wels axal msof-

lio wesrigs saTaveSi CineTi Caudgeba, ganviTarebadi qveynebi

eqspluatirebulebad da eqspluatatorebad gadaiqcevian.

bulgareli winaswarmetyvelis SexedulebiT, kacobriobis

aRsasruli dedamiwaze ramdenjerme dadgeba. adamianebi TviTon

daxocaven erTmaneTs, gaanadgureben bunebas. yvelaze didi da-

Rupva msoflio warRvnas mohyveba. udidesi varskvlavi _ mze

mkvdari iqneba sami wlis ganmavlobaSi. yovelive es dakavSire-

buli iqneba imasTan, rom dedamiwas XXI saukunis dasawyisSi

meteoriti daecema.

5079 wels namdvili bolo Jami dadgeba. amiT mTavrdeba

`vangas Canawerebi~.

winaswarmetyvelebi amboben, rom bolo Jamis ambis momTxro-

bi aRaravin darCeba, magram mosalodnelia adamianebis sulieri

aRorZineba. amas 2012 wlis bolos gavigebT.

visac ar swams da sjera maias winaswarmetyvelebis, bolo

Jamis daTariRebas miadevnos Tvali, romelic isaak niutonma

(2060 weli), berma abelma (2780, anda 2892 wlebi) da nost-

radamusma (3797 weli) iwinaswarmetyvela.

kkrraassnnooddaarrSSii kkoonnkkiiaa ddaaiibbaaddaakrasnodaris mxareSi, tixoreckis raionSi gogona daibada,

romelsac `zoluSka~ uwodes. igi boSaTa ojaxSi gaCnda. ro-

desac dedam gaigo, rom gogona eyola, gadawyvita misi saxe-

li oficialurad daeregistrirebina da konkia daarqva. ram

miiyvana deda am daskvnamde, cxadia, ucnobia. zRapars Tu da-

vujerebT, konkias es saxeli imis gamo Seerqva, rom mTeli

bavSvoba dakonkili tansacmliT eZina yuTSi buxarTan axlos.

rroommeellii qqvveeyynneebbii ggaaqqrreebbiiaann rruukkeebbiiddaann uuaaxxllooeess ppeerriiooddSSii??!!

gaeros eqspertebma specialuri cxrili Seadgines, sadac

mocemulia uaxloes xanebSi momakvdavi erebis sia. siis Sedge-

nisas mTavari mniSvneloba mieniWa qveynebSi arsebul demogra-

fiul situacias

da ekonomikur

problemebs. top-

aTeulSi ruseT-

sac ukavia adgi-

li. rogorc am-

boben, ukanaskne-

li rusi 2888

wels mokvdeba,

bunebrivia, ruse-

Tis teritoria

carieli ar dar-

Ceba, magram pr-

ognozi hipoTeturia. ukraina kidev 400 weliwadi iarsebebso,

magram arsebobs bednieri qveynebic, sadac ganviTarebis dinami-

ka saxarbieloa _ es aziis da afrikis qveynebia da kidev ram-

denime laTinuri amerikis qveyana.

top-aTeulSi moxvdnen slovakeTic, rumineTic, ungreTic,

maltac, bosniac, makedoniac, singapuric, honkongic da makaoc.

rogorc gaero iuwyeba, aSS-i 177770 wlamde iarsebebs (gaixa-

re `muSav~, wamebulo!)

oobboobbaass qqsseelliissggaann vviioolliinnooss ssiimmeebbii ddaaaammzzaaddeess

iaponiaSi obobas

qselisgan violinos

simebi daamzades. sa-

medicino universi-

tetis TanamSromeli

nara sigeiusi did

xans ecada 300 obo-

bas qseli Seegrove-

bina. mkvlevarma vio-

linos simebis dasam-

zadeblad 3-5 aTasi

qselis Zafi daalaga

erTi mimarTulebiT,

gverdigverd.

specialistebis TqmiT, simebi Rrma da rbil xmovanebs ga-

moscemen.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-

neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-

velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-

gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.

rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda

gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-

velno, erTad RvTisaken!

RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!

amave nomris skanvordis pasuxebi:skanvordi

1.sastveni. 2. samarxi. 3. stilisti. 4. aka-

pulko. 5. afrodite. 6. xeibari. 7. bari. 8. la-

kombi. 9. vela. 10. aldagi. 11. sietli. 12. lu-

minali. 13. piero. 14. dukati. 15. epiuri. 16. pi-

ter. 17. paranoiki. 18. feniqsi. 19. delfini. 20.

lego. 21. varZia. 22. fareli. 23. franki. 24. ba-

ti. 25. borti. 26. buli. 27. landSafti. 28. qva-

buli. 29. neto. 30. despine. 31. perangi. 32. ro-

sinanti. 33. arieta. 34. Cafari. 35. rusudani. 36.

fSata. 37. asfalti. 38. fasanauri. 39. Woma. 40.

kabrioleti. 41. safilo. 42. fuli. 43. fandi.

44. ono. 45. pinta. 46. meCeCi. 47. pilpili. 48.

edit. 49. dugma. 50. keni. 51. depi. 52. TaliSi.

53. kenedi. 54. gudastviri. 55. avTo. 56. Talia.

57. beCa. 58. gogeni. 59. sagani. 60. gavril. 61.

Torem. 62. taqsi. 63. skotCi. 64. sve. 65. siaTa.

66. nirvana. 67. trali. 68. Celenjeri. 69. blo-

ba. 70. antraSa. 71. reJisori. 72. mistrali.

krosvordi

Sveulad: 1. vatikani. 2. kunapeti. 3. citi-

reba. 4. radikali. 5. masStabi. 6. niasa. 7. aWi-

mi. 12. lotosi. 15. fotofobia. 16. loialuri.

17. regioni. 18. katalizi. 19. palisadi. 21. ari-

zona. 23. blini. 27. dageri. 29. renie. 30. piki.

31. Jako. 32. Tia. 33. ena.

Tarazulad: 3. ceremonia. 8. saturni. 9.

despani. 10. miwayrili. 11. ketsali. 13. kaberne.

14. liberta. 15. filigrani. 19. pasi. 20. tri-

logia. 22. ratili. 24. folklori. 25. zulu-

sebi. 26. borodino. 28. zadari. 30. paJi. 32. Ta-

lesi. 34. kikinebi. 35. banditi.

skanvordi

1.vaSintoni. 2. WinWila. 3. Woporti. 4.

Wadraki. 5. mitelSpili. 6. metronomi. 7. zneda-

cemuli. 8. araTiTi. 9. alaverdi. 10. pirveli. 11.

iatagani. 12. qertli. 13. vazelini. 14. Spili. 15.

formoza. 16. naxiCevani. 17. varxvi. 18. nestle.

19. mermisi. 20. jazi. 21. jivisi. 22. sentrope.

23. mimi. 24. muskulatura. 25. dreli. 26. jix-

vi. 27. Clavi. 28. klei. 29. jeixani. 30. simet-

ria. 31. jejili. 32. Tunuqi. 33. repatriacia. 34.

debatebi. 35. petre. 36. diRomi. 37. baqibuqi. 38.

burgasi. 39. qronologia. 40. mkeravi. 41. bruk.

42. endemi. 43. granti. 44. fereidani. 45. lidia.

46. kalTa. 47. dolbandi. 48. demi. 49. dilegi.

50. Tone. 51. milani. 52. marina. 53. raundi. 54.

tilo. 55. orioni. 56. anatolia. 57. vogi. 58.

Tika. 59. nuare. 60. kurt. 61. qarTu. 62. babe-

ta. 63. kuneli. 64. kriala. 65. taqsi.

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