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From ccas at prairienet.org Sat Oct 1 16:18:10 2005From: ccas at prairienet.org (ccas@prairienet.org)Date: Sat Oct 1 16:18:11 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Check out the CCAS websiteMessage-ID: <1425.65.136.155.150.1128201490.squirrel@mail.prairienet.org>

Hi all,

Check out the CCAS website for the latest information and events. Seepictures of the raptors that will be at our next member's meeting on Oct.6, download a flyer for the Prairie School Project workshop coming up onOct. 7-8, purchase birding items online from Eagle Optics (CCAS receives aportion of the profits), check times and dates for upcoming field tripsand events, and much more!

The website is a great way to get the word out about our events,especially to those who are not yet members. Spread the word, and invitefriends to CCAS activities!

www.champaigncountyaudubon.org

Happy Birding!CCAS WebmasterPamFrom dafekt1ve at yahoo.com Tue Oct 4 09:54:40 2005From: dafekt1ve at yahoo.com (Bryan Guarente)Date: Tue Oct 4 09:54:42 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Crystal Lake MorningMessage-ID: <20051004145440.37909.qmail@web52110.mail.yahoo.com>

Birdnoters,This morning ended up being a really good morning for numbers ofwarblers, but the diversity was not great. I was at the wooden bridgeover the creek at 7:45am, and the birds were hopping from then until Ileft at 8:50am. The majority of warblers were Black-throated GreenWarblers of all ages and sexes.

Warblers seen included:Black-throated Green Warblers (at least 15)Magnolia Warbler (1 female-type)Nashville Warbler (1)Black-and-white Warbler (1 male 1 female)Ovenbird (4+)Golden-winged Warbler (1 male)American Redstart (1 adult male, 2+ female-type)Chestnut-sided Warbler (1 female)Yellow-rumped Warbler (1 female)

Other birds seen:Swainson's Thrush (3)White-breasted Nuthatch (2)Brown Creeper (10+, they were everywhere... just like BTNW)Golden-crowned Kinglet (8+)Ruby-crowned Kinglet (5+)

White-throated Sparrow (5)American RobinsNorthern Flicker (4, all yellow-shafted)Red-bellied Woodpecker (2)Yellow-bellied Sapsucker (3)Downy Woodpecker (1)European StarlingsCarolina Wren (1)Scarlet Tanager (1 juvenile)Common Grackles

Bryan GuarenteAtmospheric Sciences Graduate AssistantChampaign, IL

__________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.comFrom vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu Tue Oct 4 10:48:40 2005From: vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu (Vaiden, Robert)Date: Tue Oct 4 10:48:42 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] BirdsMessage-ID: <2DBE7AB0488C0443A1E1C20EA692D90718A1F2@zinc.isgs.uiuc.edu>

I was at Goose Lake Prairie late last week (Gentians were just startingto bloom). I saw (winging overhead and appearing somewhat odd incontrast to the waving prairie grasses) flocks of Pelicans...I countedas many as 63 on Friday. There are ponds out on Goose Lake Prairie,and, of course, the Illinois River is nearby. Quite a sight! Therewere also a few Palm Warblers out on the prairie.

Around home...still an occasional Hummer and Redstart.

BobFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Tue Oct 4 12:07:53 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Tue Oct 4 12:07:57 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Hummers and mantisesMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F28521C45E@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

I was looking through the Birdnotes archives last night and ran across athread from early September that discussed hummers and mantises.

Just wanted to mention that this was also a topic on theBLOOMINGTON-BIRDS (Bloomington, Indiana) list at about that same time.The original topic had to do with hummers and large garden spiders (theperson had a seen a hummer get caught in a garden spider's web...iteventually escaped). One of the list members wrote the following:

"I have seen a chinese mantid catch and kill a hummer before so I assumethe spider might try. I would guess though that unless it was a hugegarden spider, and they do get large, it would not attempt to catch thehummer but cut it free."

Bernie SloanSenior Information Systems ConsultantConsortium of Academic & Research Libraries in Illinois616 E. Green Street, Suite 213Champaign, IL 61820-5752

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From charleneanchor at msn.com Wed Oct 5 09:19:30 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Wed Oct 5 09:14:24 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Further hummers and their problemsMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV2A5F9EAF48751BFA37E9FC6820@phx.gbl>

I've been occasionally reading the bird listserves of some of the southern states since the hurricanes. (The listserves have been used as a way to try and find birders, keep in contact with each other, and inform people of the damage during the storms.)

Around the time Birdnotes posted about the hummers, a similar discussion was taking place down south. Large spiders down there do entrap the hummingbirds and will kill them. One person was able to free a hummer and clean off the webs. Other times they are found trapped and dead. There are many more hummingbirds down there than we see up here since they congregate and feed-up before migration. (Also, I believe LA has had 7 different species recorded.) Folks were talking about seeing around 80 hummingbirds feeding in their yards!! (more than one person had 40 feeders going - 5 1/2 quarts of sugar water!!) The result of this is that Shrikes have learned that they can find an easy meal and will "monitor" the feeders. Hummingbirds are found impaled on tree thorns as a result. It sounds like our southern population is very concerned and attached to their large hummingbird population. More than one person continued to feed during the hurricanes. One person had to evacuate and leave her 40 feeders....she was very worried about that, having to leave the birds unfed since the nectar sources, obviously, were lost.

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: Sloan, BernieSent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:09 PMTo: birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] Hummers and mantises

I was looking through the Birdnotes archives last night and ran across athread from early September that discussed hummers and mantises.

Just wanted to mention that this was also a topic on theBLOOMINGTON-BIRDS (Bloomington, Indiana) list at about that same time.The original topic had to do with hummers and large garden spiders (theperson had a seen a hummer get caught in a garden spider's web...iteventually escaped). One of the list members wrote the following:

"I have seen a chinese mantid catch and kill a hummer before so I assumethe spider might try. I would guess though that unless it was a hugegarden spider, and they do get large, it would not attempt to catch thehummer but cut it free."

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Turkeys in back yard today on Brighton, Urbana. Anyone else spotted them around town?

From spunksk8tr at hotmail.com Wed Oct 5 17:29:59 2005From: spunksk8tr at hotmail.com (Mary McLeod)Date: Wed Oct 5 17:30:06 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Turkey newsIn-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.1.20051005102343.01a01e18@mail.egix.net>Message-ID: <BAY107-F177F6A4AFB544B64F8F5439A820@phx.gbl>

Two weeks ago, the four of them spent a few days pecking and meandering up and down East Burkwood Court.

Mary McLeod

>From: Bland Palmore <bpalmore@egix.net>>To: birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org>Subject: [Birdnotes] Turkey news>Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 10:26:24 -0500>

>Turkeys in back yard today on Brighton, Urbana. Anyone else spotted them >around town?>>>_______________________________________________>Birdnotes mailing list>Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org>https://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes

From rdigges at excite.com Thu Oct 6 10:53:52 2005From: rdigges at excite.com (Roger)Date: Thu Oct 6 10:53:57 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] White-throated sparrowMessage-ID: <20051006155352.8EE5DB6E7@xprdmailfe17.nwk.excite.com>

Heard my first singing White-throated Sparrow while walking in my southeast Urbana neighborhood this morning. He sounded a little rusty, but nice to hear him.

Roger Digges

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From gh4444 at insightbb.com Fri Oct 7 08:30:49 2005From: gh4444 at insightbb.com (g.huguet)Date: Fri Oct 7 08:35:03 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <000a01c5cb43$55271840$2656dd0c@insightbb.com>

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If they keep hanging around you could have them for Thanksgiving! (bad joke)

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: g.huguet

Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 8:35 AMTo: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] turkeys

8:30 am 4 turkeys just seen in backyard at 1204 E. Brighton Urbana_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051007/d9b493a2/attachment.htmFrom rdigges at excite.com Sat Oct 8 07:41:52 2005From: rdigges at excite.com (Roger)Date: Sat Oct 8 07:41:58 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] TurkeysMessage-ID: <20051008124152.027E4B6DD@xprdmailfe17.nwk.excite.com>

My wife and I spotted the four turkeys on Evergreen Court this morning, chowing down on a neighbor's carefully sown grass seed. They seem very tame; our dogs were within 30 feet of them, and while they stayed alert, they didn't move.

Roger Digges

From charleneanchor at msn.com Sat Oct 8 19:34:18 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Sat Oct 8 19:29:10 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Fw: Mahomet Conservation AreaMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV6850BA82463BDCF4877BCC6860@phx.gbl>

----- Original Message -----From: charlene anchorSent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 7:32 PMTo: Birdnotes@lists.priairenet.orgSubject: Mahomet Conservation Area

This morning, besides all the usual regulars, seen were: Yellow-rumped Warbler, Ruby-crowned Kinglet, White-throated Sparrow, Winter Wren, Red-winged Blackbird, Eastern Meadowlark (eating and singing in the corn stubble), Palm Warbler (many in the prairie), Blue-headed Vireo, Dark-eyed Junco and White-crowned Sparrow.

Keeping the birds and me company were 1000's of Starlings and 100's of cross-country runners.

Charlene Anchor-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051008/beeff746/attachment.htmFrom jbchato at uiuc.edu Mon Oct 10 11:20:06 2005From: jbchato at uiuc.edu (John & Beth Chato)Date: Mon Oct 10 11:20:11 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <bd47d48b.4921ed5b.8537000@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>

Monday, October 10.I accidently got the latest news on south east Urbana's wandering turkey family. They are now in Yankee Ridge Subdivision, roosting in a large tree on Sherwin Circle and eating weed seeds in a vacant lot. An unknown lady, meaning to call a friend, dialled my number by mistake and said, "the turkeys are back!" I said what turkeys, where? and got the scoop. It would be fun to take a map and pinpoint all the sightings. I think these are the same group of three young plus the mother which were first seen in Wheatfield Park. Now they are all the same size.John C. Chato714 W. Vermont Ave.Urbana, IL 61801217-344-6803From bpalmore at egix.net Mon Oct 10 11:43:27 2005From: bpalmore at egix.net (Bland Palmore)Date: Mon Oct 10 11:43:30 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Turkey trackingMessage-ID: <6.1.0.6.1.20051010113000.01a06410@mail.egix.net>

First seen on Brighton (901) end of Sept. On Brighton (1202A) Oct. 5; Evergreen Court; Oct. 8; Yankee Ridge subdivision Oct. 10.

(Brighton is in Sunnycreat area)

From bpalmore at egix.net Mon Oct 10 15:39:56 2005From: bpalmore at egix.net (Bland Palmore)Date: Mon Oct 10 15:39:58 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] forgot a Turkey sightingMessage-ID: <6.1.0.6.1.20051010153906.019f4a40@mail.egix.net>

October 7, 1204 E. Brighton.

From rdigges at excite.com Mon Oct 10 20:28:00 2005From: rdigges at excite.com (Roger)Date: Mon Oct 10 20:28:09 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <20051011012800.05910B7A9@xprdmailfe17.nwk.excite.com>

Seen at west end of East Evergreen Court on October 8th.

Roger Digges

--- On Mon 10/10, John & Beth Chato < jbchato@uiuc.edu > wrote:From: John & Beth Chato [mailto: jbchato@uiuc.edu]To: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgDate: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:20:06 -0500Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeys

Monday, October 10. I accidently got the latest news on south east Urbana's wandering turkey family. They are now in Yankee Ridge Subdivision, roosting in a large tree on Sherwin Circle and eating weed seeds in a vacant lot. An unknown lady, meaning to call a friend, dialled my number by mistake and said, "the turkeys are back!" I said what turkeys, where? and got the scoop. It would be fun to take a map and pinpoint all the sightings. I think these are the same group of three young plus the mother which were first seen in Wheatfield Park. Now they are all the same size. John C. Chato 714 W. Vermont Ave. Urbana, IL 61801 217-344-6803 _______________________________________________ Birdnotes mailing list Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org https://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes

From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Oct 10 20:55:27 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Mon Oct 10 20:55:28 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F28521C752@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

As someone who lives in the neighborhood, I am so very disappointed thatI recently have been pretty much out of town during the turkeysightings! :-(

I was near St. Louis (end of last week), in Bloomington, IN (theweekend), Chicago (last night and most of today), briefly in Urbana(Sunday AM and tonight), and I am heading to Peoria for the rest of theweek.

But I have been liberally lacing my back yard with bird feed (when I amhome) in hopes of sighting the turkeys...

The one thing I find myself wondering about is why there haven't beensightings reported in Meadowbrook Park? Lots of people go throughMeadowbrook, and there are lots of food sources there...just curious.

Bernie Sloan

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of John & BethChatoSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:20 AMTo: BirdnotesSubject: [Birdnotes] turkeys

Monday, October 10.I accidently got the latest news on south east Urbana's wandering turkey

family. They are now in Yankee Ridge Subdivision, roosting in a largetree on Sherwin Circle and eating weed seeds in a vacant lot. An unknown lady, meaning to call a friend, dialled my number by mistake and said, "the turkeys are back!" I said what turkeys, where? and got the scoop.It would be fun to take a map and pinpoint all the sightings. I think theseare the same group of three young plus the mother which were first seen in Wheatfield Park. Now they are all the same size.John C. Chato714 W. Vermont Ave.Urbana, IL 61801217-344-6803_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotesFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Oct 10 23:47:47 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Mon Oct 10 23:47:52 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F28521C761@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

I asked about why there hadn't been sightings in Meadowbrook...

I received a reply off list indicating that there had been twoMeadowbrook sightings called in to the CCAS phone.

Bernie Sloan

-----Original Message-----From: Sloan, Bernie Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 8:55 PMTo: birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] turkeys

As someone who lives in the neighborhood, I am so very disappointed thatI recently have been pretty much out of town during the turkeysightings! :-(

I was near St. Louis (end of last week), in Bloomington, IN (the

weekend), Chicago (last night and most of today), briefly in Urbana(Sunday AM and tonight), and I am heading to Peoria for the rest of theweek.

But I have been liberally lacing my back yard with bird feed (when I amhome) in hopes of sighting the turkeys...

The one thing I find myself wondering about is why there haven't beensightings reported in Meadowbrook Park? Lots of people go throughMeadowbrook, and there are lots of food sources there...just curious.

Bernie Sloan

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of John & BethChatoSent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:20 AMTo: BirdnotesSubject: [Birdnotes] turkeys

Monday, October 10.I accidently got the latest news on south east Urbana's wandering turkey

family. They are now in Yankee Ridge Subdivision, roosting in a largetree on Sherwin Circle and eating weed seeds in a vacant lot. An unknown lady, meaning to call a friend, dialled my number by mistake and said, "the turkeys are back!" I said what turkeys, where? and got the scoop.It would be fun to take a map and pinpoint all the sightings. I think theseare the same group of three young plus the mother which were first seen in Wheatfield Park. Now they are all the same size.John C. Chato714 W. Vermont Ave.Urbana, IL 61801217-344-6803_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotesFrom vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu Tue Oct 11 08:56:54 2005From: vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu (Vaiden, Robert)Date: Tue Oct 11 08:57:01 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] backyard birdsMessage-ID: <2DBE7AB0488C0443A1E1C20EA692D90718A1FC@zinc.isgs.uiuc.edu>

Backyard birds this weekend... White Throated SparrowsRuby Crowned KingletsPalm WarblersRedstartGoldfinchesSwaisons ThrushVulture

Blue JaysCarolina Wren...and several other unidentified li'l birds... Cooper Hawk Monday evening...5:45...Urbana downtown-Busey Bank.

(Crow > Hawk > Pigeon situation)Brown Creeper...Parkland courtyard. Bob :-)

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the 4 turkeys were seen this morning at 8:15 on the ball diamonds south of yankee ridge school-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051011/90b7c5e0/attachment.htmFrom lambeth at ad.uiuc.edu Wed Oct 12 09:14:16 2005From: lambeth at ad.uiuc.edu (Gregory S Lambeth)Date: Wed Oct 12 09:14:18 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Chimney SwiftsMessage-ID: <1343607D07FABB4B9E0806679E555A6B01CD00F3@odosmail.ad.uiuc.edu>

There were about 100 Chimney Swifts flying around the Lincoln Square Mall area in downtown Urbana last evening at dusk. We probably have just a few more days to enjoy these birds before they're gone for the next 6 months!

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Last year I watched them enter the chimney at Lincoln Square. Last week about 30 flew high over Griggs Street in Urbana going south in later

afternoon. We always have 6-10 chattering and swooping overhead during the day at Griggs through the summer. I'll miss them when they're gone.

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: Gregory S LambethSent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:16 AMTo: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] Chimney Swifts

There were about 100 Chimney Swifts flying around the Lincoln Square Mall area in downtown Urbana last evening at dusk. We probably have just a few more days to enjoy these birds before they're gone for the next 6 months!

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Welden Springs State Natural Area is the destination for a fieldtrip sponsored by Champaign County Audubon Society on Saturday,October 15. Meet at 8:00 AM at the parking lot of the Anita PurvesNature Center, 1505 N. Broadway, Urbana. The 425-acre park islocated southeast of Clinton in DeWitt County, and is the site ofa 29-acre spring-fed lake. Bring lunch. Helen Parker leads.Questions: 367-3130.-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051013/9e525988/attachment.htmFrom h-parker at express.cites.uiuc.edu Sat Oct 15 17:04:33 2005From: h-parker at express.cites.uiuc.edu (Helen Parker)Date: Sat Oct 15 17:04:36 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Where were you-all????Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20051015170124.01c91760@express.cites.uiuc.edu>

Hey, we were supposed to have a field trip to Weldon Springs today, remember? I was there, prepared to lead it--but nobody showed up! Too bad; it probably would have been a great trip. I debated going alone and posting all the stuff I saw, but thought of the price of gas and went to

Homer Lake instead. Which was pretty, too.--Helen Parker

From jwhoyt at prairienet.org Sun Oct 16 14:03:08 2005From: jwhoyt at prairienet.org (James Hoyt)Date: Sun Oct 16 14:03:10 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Ivory Billed Woodpecker sighting tonight on 60 minutes

news show.In-Reply-To: <15d.5b186aa1.308006b8@aol.com>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510161400320.23261-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

60 minutes on CBS will have a program about the Ivory Billed Woodpecker at 6PM tonight.

If anyone can tape this I would appreciate it.

My cable is out!!

THanks again,

Jim :)

-- James Hoyt"The Prairie Ant"Champaign Co. AudubonCo-steward Parkland College Prairies.Monitor Urbana Park District Natural Areas.Champaign County Master GardenerAllerton AlliesPrairie Rivers Network

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From charleneanchor at msn.com Mon Oct 17 20:26:34 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Mon Oct 17 20:21:21 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] MahometMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV148AC6EA11F7241325EB91C6710@phx.gbl>

This morning,

At Stidham Pond - 2 NORTHERN SHOVELARSAt Lake of the Woods - OSPREY flew down the river near the covered bridge carrying a decapitated fish and calling. Landed in a dead tree along the river with the fish in it's talons providing excellent close-up views.

Returning home on 150, a GOLDEN EAGLE flew over. I got out of the car so as to not run off the road, set up my scope, and watched it until it was out of sight as it cruised slowly on thermals heading southward.

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Saw my first juncos of the season - at Homer Lake. Don't remember if anyone else had seen any or not.

Pam-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051017/a389eda8/attachment.htmFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Oct 17 21:14:46 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Mon Oct 17 21:14:49 2005Subject: [SPAM] [Birdnotes] JuncosMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F28521CA31@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Thanks for the heads up!!!

Every fall I try to track my first sightings of juncos, and in thespring I try to track my last junco sighting.

Haven't seen one yet this fall!!!

Thanks again!!

Bernie Sloan

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From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of Pam LeiterSent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:08 PMTo: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [SPAM] [Birdnotes] Juncos

Saw my first juncos of the season - at Homer Lake. Don't remember ifanyone else had seen any or not.

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Beth Chato and I saw several at Allerton Park this past Saturday at the Allerton Bird Hike.

3 Cheers for the little snow birds!!!

Jim :)

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Pam Leiter wrote:

> Saw my first juncos of the season - at Homer Lake. Don't remember if anyone else had seen any or not.> > Pam

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From charleneanchor at msn.com Tue Oct 18 07:37:28 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Tue Oct 18 07:32:13 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] TurkeysMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV109E89DB538507BA3281D0C6710@phx.gbl>

Just wondering what has happened with the turkeys....anymore sightings?

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I saw my first juncos of the season in my backyard this AM. Also a smallflock of white-throated sparrows. (Starting in the fall I toss out birdfeed on the ground a couple of times a week...just started doing it lastweek).

Bernie Sloan

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of James HoytSent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:50 AMCc: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] Juncos

Beth Chato and I saw several at Allerton Park this past Saturday at the Allerton Bird Hike.

3 Cheers for the little snow birds!!!

Jim :)

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, Pam Leiter wrote:

> Saw my first juncos of the season - at Homer Lake. Don't remember ifanyone else had seen any or not.> > Pam

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_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotesFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Tue Oct 18 10:10:09 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Tue Oct 18 10:10:18 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] TurkeysMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F28521CA71@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Funny you should ask. I didn't see any turkeys this AM, but I heard atleast one.

I was in the southeast corner of Meadowbrook Park about 7AM today andthought I heard what might have been a turkey...sort of vaguelyresembled some of the calls pheasants make, but louder and stronger.Almost sounded to me like a small dog yelping loudly, only moremetallic.

I came home and checked the National Wild Turkey Federation web site,which has recordings of turkey calls. I found a call that was exactlythe sound I heard this AM in Meadowbrook, except there was more timespacing between the yelps. It was a hen turkey yelping:

http://www.nwtf.org/special_events/turkey_calls_plain_yelp.html

Bernie Sloan

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From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of charleneanchorSent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:37 AMTo: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] Turkeys

Just wondering what has happened with the turkeys....anymore sightings?

Charlene Anchor

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-----Original Message-----From: Mark Diedrich [mailto:mark@pca-paxtonil.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:12 AM

To: 'charlene anchor'Subject: RE: [Birdnotes] Turkeys

With regard to Charlene's query about turkeys; this morning I saw around20 turkey in my back yard. Of course, they don't count since I movedfrom Paxton to the foothills of the Catskill Mountains (New York State)in early September. I did post a picture of one of the toms (bothoriginal shot & cropped version) at the following site: http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?<http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=19028263208&page=1&photo_count=2> &collid=19028263208&page=1&photo_count=2& Most of the rest of the birds (there are 3 Colorado birds) that I haveposted are central Illinois birds that I photographed this spring andsummer. I have really enjoyed reading the birdnotes of all the fall migrantscoming through. Unfortunately, since moving, I have had no time to gobirding. Thus while I have seen a Broad winged hawk or two, I did notsee the large kettles of them that come through this area inmid-September to early October. - Next year. Has anyone seen the sandhill cranes migrating south yet. A year or two(or three) ago I saw a flock flying south while I was at the Middleforkwaterfowl preserve. Do they ever land there? Mark DiedrichKerhonkson, New York -------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051018/d4b18a06/attachment.htmFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Tue Oct 18 18:54:59 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Tue Oct 18 18:55:07 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] More turkeysMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F28521CB05@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Earlier today I reported hearing a hen turkey yelping in the southeastcorner of Meadowbrook Park at about 7AM.

Tonight I was walking through the same general area shortly aftersunset. I briefly heard several loud drumming sounds, lasting no morethan 2-3 seconds each. It sounded like the sound a pheasant makes whenit takes off, except deeper and more powerful. To me it seemedconsistent with the sound a turkey (several turkeys, since I heard morethan one drumming sound) might make as it flies up into a tree roost for

the night.

I stood and listened for a couple of minutes after that, but heard nomore sounds.

I am wondering if maybe the turkeys' home base is where Meadowbrookborders with the Yankee Ridge subdivision??

From jbchato at uiuc.edu Tue Oct 18 22:10:25 2005From: jbchato at uiuc.edu (John & Beth Chato)Date: Tue Oct 18 22:10:32 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] New Mexico wilderness programMessage-ID: <c0cbcc49.4d7c2111.829ab00@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>

Special out of town speaker from Utah Wilderness Society;(Nathan Small)Thursday, October 20, 7 p.m. Rm 160 English Building (608 S. Wright)LANDS OF ENCHANTMENT: Protecting the Grasslands of Otero Mesa and Wilderness in New MexicoHe will bring salsa to taste.Sponsored by Students for Environmenal Concerns

from Beth ChatoJohn C. Chato714 W. Vermont Ave.Urbana, IL 61801217-344-6803From REGEHR5 at aol.com Wed Oct 19 19:51:55 2005From: REGEHR5 at aol.com (REGEHR5@aol.com)Date: Wed Oct 19 19:52:10 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] First JuncoMessage-ID: <1c6.33948f49.3088442b@aol.com>

I saw the first Junco in my yard on Friday, Oct. 15.This morning I had a small flock of 6 Juncos, a White-throatedSparrow and a Song Sparrow feeding on weedy grass seedsin the yard for a short time. Goldfinches were feeding on seeds of New England Asterand Purple Coneflower. Elaine Regehr-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051019/e5f127e9/attachment.htmFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Wed Oct 19 20:09:56 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Wed Oct 19 20:09:59 2005

Subject: [Birdnotes] First JuncoMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE27E@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Speaking of first juncos and first white throated sparrows, what aboutlast hummingbirds??

I had a hummingbird fly past me in Meadowbrook today. When do theyeventually leave?

Bernie Sloan

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From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf OfREGEHR5@aol.comSent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:52 PMTo: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] First Junco

I saw the first Junco in my yard on Friday, Oct. 15. This morning I had a small flock of 6 Juncos, a White-throated Sparrow and a Song Sparrow feeding on weedy grass seeds in the yard for a short time. Goldfinches were feeding on seeds of New England Aster and Purple Coneflower. Elaine Regehr

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That's an interesting question. A friend of mine had one in her yard this weekend and yesterday we were discussing how long to leave up the hummingbird feeders. Does anyone have any advice about that? These hummingbirds may be the lucky ones. The Gulf wouldn't be a great place to be right now.

Charlene Anchor

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From: Sloan, BernieSent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:10 PMTo: REGEHR5@aol.com; birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] First Junco

Speaking of first juncos and first white throated sparrows, what about last hummingbirds?? I had a hummingbird fly past me in Meadowbrook today. When do they eventually leave? Bernie Sloan

From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org [mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of REGEHR5@aol.comSent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:52 PMTo: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] First Junco I saw the first Junco in my yard on Friday, Oct. 15. This morning I had a small flock of 6 Juncos, a White-throated Sparrow and a Song Sparrow feeding on weedy grass seeds in the yard for a short time. Goldfinches were feeding on seeds of New England Aster and Purple Coneflower. Elaine Regehr_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051019/bc7ab44d/attachment.htmFrom jwhoyt at prairienet.org Thu Oct 20 01:48:54 2005From: jwhoyt at prairienet.org (James Hoyt)Date: Thu Oct 20 01:48:56 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Perkin's Road Judge Webber ParkIn-Reply-To: <1c6.33948f49.3088442b@aol.com>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510200146120.19201-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

At Judge Webber Dog Park and Relamation Project.

Saw a Red Tailed Hawk.Hundreds of Goldfinches.Lots of sparrows.

This is going to be a terrific park!!!!!!

Jim :)

From vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu Thu Oct 20 08:16:31 2005From: vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu (Vaiden, Robert)Date: Thu Oct 20 08:16:35 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] First JuncoMessage-ID: <2DBE7AB0488C0443A1E1C20EA692D90718A211@zinc.isgs.uiuc.edu>

Still haven't seen a Junco yet, but have 6-8 White Throated Sparrowsabout the yard. They're fairly tame...will often not fly until I'mwithin a few feet of them. Coopers Hawk flying around Mumford and Philo Road area...seen severaltimes in the last week (in one encounter, the hawk landed on the roof ofa parked car right in front of the observer) Bob :-)-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051020/677a77c8/attachment.htmFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Thu Oct 20 10:04:16 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Thu Oct 20 10:04:24 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Coopers HawkMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE2AE@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Several winters ago I had a Coopers Hawk that regularly poached mourningdoves in my back yard. The hawk would spook the birds and pick amourning dove out of the air...always a mourning dove, even though italways had several species to choose from. I observed this directly a

half dozen times.

That was an interesting winter...two or three times (snow cover/brightmoon) I also observed an owl snatch a mouse feeding on bird feed, andsaw direct evidence that squirrels aren't necessarily vegetarians.

Bernie Sloan

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From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of Vaiden,RobertSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:17 AMTo: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] First Junco

Still haven't seen a Junco yet, but have 6-8 White Throated Sparrowsabout the yard. They're fairly tame...will often not fly until I'mwithin a few feet of them.

Coopers Hawk flying around Mumford and Philo Road area...seen severaltimes in the last week (in one encounter, the hawk landed on the roof ofa parked car right in front of the observer)

Bob :-)

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I also had a Coopers Hawk a few years ago doing exactly the samething...never saw it "in action", but for 2 weeks, I regularly foundpiles of Mourning Dove feathers under the evergreens at the back of theyard. One day, from inside the house, I saw the birds at the feedersuddenly vanish...by the time I reached the window, it was "raining"

Mourning Dove feathers...but I never saw the hawk or the dove! Bob :-)_______________________________________________________________ -----Original Message-----From: Sloan, Bernie [mailto:bernies@uillinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:04 AMTo: Vaiden, Robert; birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: Coopers Hawk Several winters ago I had a Coopers Hawk that regularly poached mourningdoves in my back yard. The hawk would spook the birds and pick amourning dove out of the air...always a mourning dove, even though italways had several species to choose from. I observed this directly ahalf dozen times. That was an interesting winter...two or three times (snow cover/brightmoon) I also observed an owl snatch a mouse feeding on bird feed, andsaw direct evidence that squirrels aren't necessarily vegetarians. Bernie Sloan ________________________________

From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of Vaiden,RobertSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:17 AMTo: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] First Junco Still haven't seen a Junco yet, but have 6-8 White Throated Sparrowsabout the yard. They're fairly tame...will often not fly until I'mwithin a few feet of them. Coopers Hawk flying around Mumford and Philo Road area...seen severaltimes in the last week (in one encounter, the hawk landed on the roof ofa parked car right in front of the observer) Bob :-)-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051020/3b9a0951/attachment.htmFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Thu Oct 20 10:46:44 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Thu Oct 20 10:46:52 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] RE: Coopers HawkMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE2B4@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

I know what you mean by "raining" feathers. One time the Coopers Hawkstruck swiftly and there were small mourning dove feathers that seemedto just hang in the bright sunlight for several seconds before sinking

slowly to the ground.

Bernie

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From: Vaiden, Robert [mailto:vaiden@isgs.uiuc.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:20 AMTo: Sloan, Bernie; birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: RE: Coopers Hawk

I also had a Coopers Hawk a few years ago doing exactly the samething...never saw it "in action", but for 2 weeks, I regularly foundpiles of Mourning Dove feathers under the evergreens at the back of theyard. One day, from inside the house, I saw the birds at the feedersuddenly vanish...by the time I reached the window, it was "raining"Mourning Dove feathers...but I never saw the hawk or the dove!

Bob :-)

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-----Original Message-----From: Sloan, Bernie [mailto:bernies@uillinois.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:04 AMTo: Vaiden, Robert; birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: Coopers Hawk

Several winters ago I had a Coopers Hawk that regularly poached mourningdoves in my back yard. The hawk would spook the birds and pick amourning dove out of the air...always a mourning dove, even though italways had several species to choose from. I observed this directly ahalf dozen times.

That was an interesting winter...two or three times (snow cover/brightmoon) I also observed an owl snatch a mouse feeding on bird feed, andsaw direct evidence that squirrels aren't necessarily vegetarians.

Bernie Sloan

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From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of Vaiden,RobertSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:17 AMTo: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] First Junco

Still haven't seen a Junco yet, but have 6-8 White Throated Sparrowsabout the yard. They're fairly tame...will often not fly until I'mwithin a few feet of them.

Coopers Hawk flying around Mumford and Philo Road area...seen severaltimes in the last week (in one encounter, the hawk landed on the roof ofa parked car right in front of the observer)

Bob :-)

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Early this morning I was catching up on some e-mail from yesterday, andI actually found an answer to the hummingbird question I asked lastnight! The following note is from the Bloomington (IN) birdingdiscussion list.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----From: Bloomington Bird Sightings[mailto:BLOOMINGTON-BIRDS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU] On Behalf Of DonGorneySent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:56 AMTo: BLOOMINGTON-BIRDS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDUSubject: [B-BIRDS] Hummingbird Sightings

The Ruby-throated Hummingbirds are making their way out of Indiana andprecious few will be noted past October 31. Already, many people no

longer have hummers coming to their feeders. But, I encourage everyoneto keep those feeders up for as long as possible. Some Ruby-throatedHummingbirds will linger into November and now is the time that peoplestart noticing Rufous Hummingbirds at the feeder. I am confident thatthere are a number of Rufous in the state now. My goal is to learn ofas many as possible and to preserve the record via written detailsand/or photos. I hope that by the end of the fall/winter hummer season(which is late January as incredible as that seems) Indiana will beclosing in on its 50th Selasphorus/Rufous Hummingbird record.Presently, there are about 42 records for the state dating backing tothe early 1980's. Sooner or later a new species of hummingbird will befound in Indiana as people watch more closely and leave the feeders uplonger.

If you still have a hummer at your feeder look a little more closely andmake sure it is a Ruby-throated. Many of our Rufous Hummingbird recordsare of females and immatures that can look similar to a femaleRuby-throated. But, the Rufous has more extensive orange on theunderside while Ruby-throats have little to no orange on their flanks.The tail pattern is helpful in identifying Rufous because of the orange(also, black and white) in the tail but this might be difficult to seeas the tail has to be spread to see it well.

Let me know if you think you or someone you know have anon-Ruby-throated Hummingbird. Many of the birds first show up inOctober but some don't arrive until November or early December. If theyshow up late in the season usually they stay around for several weeks.

The link below is a brief article I wrote for the Indiana AudubonOnline Birding Guide about this topic.

http://www.indianaaudubon.org/guide/

Don GorneyIndianapolis, INdongorney AT yahoo.comwww.dongorney.com

From bernies at uillinois.edu Thu Oct 20 23:53:43 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Thu Oct 20 23:53:44 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] TurkeysMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE323@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

OK...so it's not a turkey report... :-)

I was hanging out in the southern part of Meadowbrook Park this eveninglooking for evidence of turkeys, but the weather cut my observationsshort...mostly because there was some lightning that seemed to be movingin...the storm seemed to be about a mile and a half to the south.

But I did want to relay an experience I had. I was standing therelooking intently at a tree that looked, in the growing darkness, like itmight be a turkey roost tree. All of a sudden a big whitetail buckexploded out of the prairie grass about 30 feet in front of me...it was

one of the bigger deer I have seen at Meadowbrook. I realized that, asfar as the deer was concerned, I had been staring at it for well over aminute. I figured he thought his cover had been blown and that he had toescape. But it almost gave me a heart attack, since I was payingattention to something else!! :-)

From vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu Fri Oct 21 08:00:37 2005From: vaiden at isgs.uiuc.edu (Vaiden, Robert)Date: Fri Oct 21 08:03:23 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Turkeys, Deer and JuncosMessage-ID: <2DBE7AB0488C0443A1E1C20EA692D90718A213@zinc.isgs.uiuc.edu>

Neat story...there's way too many deer now, but I remember when, as akid, we would go for drives in the country hoping to see just onedeer...how excited we were on the rare occasions when we spotted one! (Istill get excited!) A couple of years ago, I was in the west end ofMeadowbrook when I saw a small bird duck into the grass. I tried tocall it out...didn't see it again, but a pair of ears popped up about 50feet away! A fawn arose, and walked right up to me! (I mean...rightthere...2-3 feet away). It then decided I wasn't "Mom", turned about,and trotted back into the prairie and disappeared.

Earlier this year, on a beautiful June evening, as I was wanderingthrough the same area looking for lilies, a herd of 8-9 deer crossed theprairie. They passed within 30 feet (a couple deliberately approachedme and closed to about 15 feet). They apparently decided I was justanother herbivore.

Still no Juncos...send some over...

Bob :)_______________________________________________________

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of Sloan,BernieSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:54 PMTo: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] Turkeys

OK...so it's not a turkey report... :-)

I was hanging out in the southern part of Meadowbrook Park this eveninglooking for evidence of turkeys, but the weather cut my observationsshort...mostly because there was some lightning that seemed to be movingin...the storm seemed to be about a mile and a half to the south.

But I did want to relay an experience I had. I was standing therelooking intently at a tree that looked, in the growing darkness, like itmight be a turkey roost tree. All of a sudden a big whitetail buckexploded out of the prairie grass about 30 feet in front of me...it wasone of the bigger deer I have seen at Meadowbrook. I realized that, asfar as the deer was concerned, I had been staring at it for well over aminute. I figured he thought his cover had been blown and that he had toescape. But it almost gave me a heart attack, since I was payingattention to something else!! :-)

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From charleneanchor at msn.com Fri Oct 21 08:35:45 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Fri Oct 21 08:30:31 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Coopers HawkMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV13E9746B668F21B3835129C6720@phx.gbl>

Our neighborhood/backyard Cooper's, also for the most part, prefers Mourning Doves with an occasional House Sparrow. I saw three exceptions last year. Once a Cooper's flew across the yard with a screaming flicker. It dropped the flicker which, still alive, was able to fly off. Another time while waiting for a light at the corner of Church and State, a Cooper's flew across Church St. carrying a Rock Pigeon. It dropped the pigeon near the sidewalk of the park. The pigeon was still there the next day. Another time I saw a Cooper's chasing a pigeon down the center of Main St. in downtown Champaign. Last year a Cooper's was perched on my fence. I noticed that it had a missing toe. That may account for it's dropping the birds?

I've also been fortunate to get looks of a Screech Owl in the yard at night during winter. I have fenced in a small bird feeding area to deter the wandering cats. Several times I've gone out on a winter night about 9:00 to put out birdseed and have seen the owl waiting quietly on the "bird feeding fence." Once I didn't notice it until it flew silently past me in the moonlight and landed in a low limb about 15 feet away. It was a quiet night and we both were still. I was able to watch it in the illuminated moonlight....a spectacular backyard birding moment! My husband saw one this summer sitting on the peak of the roof next door very early in the morning before it was light.

Charlene Anchor----- Original Message -----

From: Sloan, BernieSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:04 AMTo: Vaiden, Robert; birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] Coopers Hawk

Several winters ago I had a Coopers Hawk that regularly poached mourning doves in my back yard. The hawk would spook the birds and pick a mourning dove out of the air...always a mourning dove, even though it always had several species to choose from. I observed this directly a half dozen times. That was an interesting winter...two or three times (snow cover/bright moon) I also observed an owl snatch a mouse feeding on bird feed, and saw direct evidence that squirrels aren?t necessarily vegetarians. Bernie Sloan

From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org [mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of Vaiden, RobertSent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:17 AMTo: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] First Junco Still haven?t seen a Junco yet, but have 6-8 White Throated Sparrows about the yard. They?re fairly tame?will often not fly until I?m within a few feet of them. Coopers Hawk flying around Mumford and Philo Road area?seen several times in the last week (in one encounter, the hawk landed on the roof of a parked car right in front of the observer) Bob J_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051021/901e02fb/attachment.htmFrom jwhoyt at prairienet.org Fri Oct 21 12:27:57 2005From: jwhoyt at prairienet.org (James Hoyt)Date: Fri Oct 21 12:27:59 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Celebrate Autumn This Saturday at Funks Grove! (fwd)Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510211223410.31662-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

I will be going over to Funks Grove tommorrow if anyone wants to car pool.

The caravan will meet at the Anita Purvis Nature Center in Urbana at 8AM

if you would like to save gas.

Funks Grove is a natural jewel in the cornfields!

Hope to see you their.

Jim :)

PS. See below for more info...

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Sugar Grove Nature Center Autumn CelebrationThis Saturday, October 22 from 10:00 a.m.-4:00 p.m. Admission to this family event is FREE!(There is a small fee for some activities)

Visit our pumpkin patch and choose your favorite to take home and carve or decorate at our pumpkin salon! Go on a fall color walk and visit our scarecrow factory. Step back in time to explore a Native American encampment, meet buckskinners, and watch blacksmith and wood-turning demonstrations. Children will delight in old-fashioned fun like pumpkin races, musical bales, a corn-shucking contest, and nature crafts. Enjoy Celtic music by The Emerald Underground, on-stage from Noon-2 p.m. Stop in the nature center where the Illinois State Herpetological Society will be exhibiting a wonderful diversity of reptiles and amphibians! Attend one of their presentations at 11:00am or 3:00pm!

Professional storyteller, Kim Petzing, will delight audiences with entertaining nature stories around a campfire at 11:30a.m. and 2:30p.m. Explore booths of goods by local artisans and crafters and indulge in some seasonal favorites like apple cider and carmel apples. Located in beautiful Funks Grove, just south of Bloomington, off Old Route 66, this 1,000 acre natural area is a dedicated Natural Heritage Landmark and is well worth the visit. For directions or more information, call 309.874.2174 or email sugargrovenc@earthlink.net.

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From gh4444 at insightbb.com Sun Oct 23 07:19:28 2005From: gh4444 at insightbb.com (g.huguet)Date: Sun Oct 23 07:23:48 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <000801c5d7cc$03f4c400$2656dd0c@insightbb.com>

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Is there any opinion, professional or non-professional, as to what should be done about the turkeys? Leave them alone? Try to get them someplace more suitable? Or maybe nothing can be done? Just wondering.

Charlene Anchor

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they are less of a problem than the geese. I would think we would deal with the geese first

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> Is there any opinion, professional or non-professional, as to what > should be done about the turkeys? Leave them alone? Try to get them > someplace more suitable? Or maybe nothing can be done? Just wondering.> > Charlene Anchor> >> ----- Original Message -----> *From:* g.huguet> *Sent:* Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:23 AM> *To:* Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org> *Subject:* [Birdnotes] turkeys> > 7:15 am sunday 4 turkeys just seen at 1003 shurts in the middle of> the street had to stop car so they could get out of the way> _______________________________________________> Birdnotes mailing list> Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org> https://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes>>------------------------------------------------------------------------>>_______________________________________________>Birdnotes mailing list>Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org>https://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes> >-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051023/5a6e8458/attachment.htmFrom charleneanchor at msn.com Sun Oct 23 12:00:29 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Sun Oct 23 11:55:12 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeysMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV17FFF42FEC48C83F159B37C6740@phx.gbl>

I'm not concerned about the turkeys being a problem, but with their safety or even the safety of drivers who may stop suddenly to avoid hitting them. Geese aren't walking down the middle of our streets or in our yards. I think advice has been advice given as to how to deal with geese (plantings of grasses and shrubs around ponds to prevent the geese access) but no one seems to be doing it. Instead our ponds are mowed around providing the geese with perfect munching habitat.

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: AstridSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:44 AMTo: charlene anchorCc: g.huguet; Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys

charlene anchor wrote: Is there any opinion, professional or non-professional, as to what should be done about the turkeys? Leave them alone? Try to get them someplace more suitable? Or maybe nothing can be done? Just wondering.

Charlene Anchor

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This past Friday afternoon, I heard crows outside our studio (on Griggs St. north of Strawberry Fields). I stepped out and saw 4 crows mobbing a Red-tailed Hawk a little above tree-top level. The hawk flew off. A little later I heard the crows again and looked out the window to see the Red-tail perched on a telephone pole next to our building. When the crows flew by the hawk would follow with open beak. Finally the crows left the hawk sitting there quietly. On Saturday afternoon, my co-worker was walking up the outside stairs and the Red-tail flew by at low level.

Last Saturday, with the weather being so nice, I had the doors open. Three times young squirrels entered, once dropping a nut I couldn't find. ("Katie," the neighborhood cat, found it during the week on one of her visits to us and knocked it about.) I decided to close the doors but not before a House Wren flew in. The wren was stressed. It was panting hard and flying into the windows trying to get out. It took some time to get it going in the right direction out the door. (Our previous fly-in bird was a Carolina Wren.)

I'm used to seeing the Cooper's Hawk frequently in town but not the Red-tailed. Maybe the young squirrels have attracted it.

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I should correct myself. The geese do get in the way of cars, especially on North Prospect. And with people who live near ponds, they go into their back yards. I was thinking of my neighborhood without ponds.

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I was going to make the same comment about geese. There is a parallel, I think. I can remember when there weren't geese all over the place, and seeing them up close (rather than in the high flying v-wedges) was a novelty. To some they still are a novelty (witness people feeding the

geese in the ponds along North prospect). But they have become a major nuisance as their numbers have increased. I have read that in some communities turkeys have become a major nuisance as they become more numerous. I still think it's cool to see them (although I've technically only heard them so far), but I find myself hoping we don't wind up looking at them as pests in the future. Bernie

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From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Sun Oct 23 12:24:49 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Another goose correctionMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV7E8616B7D744BFA3E88C5C6740@phx.gbl>

I'm wrong again! The grasses and shrubs will obviously not prevent the geese from having access to ponds. All they have to do is fly in! But it will discourage them from going on the shore around the ponds, which is where they become more of a nuisance. If I say any further stupid things, just correct me.

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I too remember, either reading or hearing, that turkeys have become a problem in certain areas of the country where their numbers have greatly increased. I think one of the reasons that they've been introduced is for purposes of hunting similar to the Ring-necked Pheasant? Maybe they are better reproducers than the pheasants and I would guess they are also harder to hunt being smarter birds? I don't know....maybe we are just now beginning to see the increase in their numbers around here.

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: Sloan, BernieSent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:12 PMTo: Astrid; charlene anchorCc: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: RE: [Birdnotes] turkeys

I was going to make the same comment about geese. There is a parallel, I think. I can remember when there weren't geese all over the place, and seeing them up close (rather than in the high flying v-wedges) was a novelty. To some they still are a novelty (witness people feeding the geese in the ponds along North prospect). But they have become a major nuisance as their numbers have increased.

I have read that in some communities turkeys have become a major nuisance as they become more numerous. I still think it's cool to see them (although I've technically only heard them so far), but I find myself hoping we don't wind up looking at them as pests in the future.

Bernie

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Sent: Sun 10/23/2005 11:39 AMTo: charlene anchorCc: Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys

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Hello, Bird,To my knowledge, there have been no turkeys seen at Homer Lake this year. They were there two or three years ago. Homer Lake should be better habitat than Urbana.

Best regards.

Jim & Eleanor Smithsmithsje@egix.net2005-10-23

From jwhoyt at prairienet.org Mon Oct 24 03:08:08 2005From: jwhoyt at prairienet.org (James Hoyt)Date: Mon Oct 24 03:08:11 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)In-Reply-To: <200510240256.j9O2ubmW024012@outbound-mta.egix.net>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510240255100.30218-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

Birders,

I may have heard a turkey's gobble near the west side of Lodge Park this past Friday afternoon at around 4PM.

Also heard a Red Breasted Nuthatch in the pines along the west road.

Some Flickers and Robins as well as a hermit thrush near Buck's Pond.

Sorry for the late report.

PS. Check out the article about the Urbana Turkey's in the Sunday paper! Patrick Hubert was quoted...

PPS. I too am begining to feel that these birds were pen raised and then released. (Although I haven't seen them yet.) A turkey walking in front of traffic doesn't seem much smarter than some of the students leaving KAM's at 1AM!!!

PPPS. Do turkeys eat fermented grapes or berries in the fall?

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From charleneanchor at msn.com Mon Oct 24 09:17:10 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Mon Oct 24 09:11:55 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV560B269D6D89F9853AAF3C6770@phx.gbl>

If these are domesticated turkeys maybe they are shopping around for a home. Maybe we should catch them and send them over to Homer Lake?

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: James HoytSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:08 AMCc: Bird NotesSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)

Birders,

I may have heard a turkey's gobble near the west side of Lodge Park this past Friday afternoon at around 4PM.

PPS. I too am begining to feel that these birds were pen raised and then released. (Although I haven't seen them yet.) A turkey walking in front of traffic doesn't seem much smarter than some of the students leaving KAM's at 1AM!!!

-- James Hoyt"The Prairie Ant"Champaign Co. AudubonCo-steward Parkland College Prairies.Monitor Urbana Park District Natural Areas.

Champaign County Master GardenerAllerton AlliesPrairie Rivers Network

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I have not had a chance to see the NG article yet butam very curious about the habits of these birds. Iwould like to request that if anyone has pictures ofthe Urbana turkeys that they would like to shareplease send them to me at derekliebert@yahoo.com.

Thanks,Derek

--- charlene anchor <charleneanchor@msn.com> wrote:

> If these are domesticated turkeys maybe they are> shopping around for a home. Maybe we should catch> them and send them over to Homer Lake?> > Charlene Anchor> > ----- Original Message -----> From: James Hoyt> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:08 AM> Cc: Bird Notes> Subject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call

> heard)> > Birders,> > I may have heard a turkey's gobble near the west> side of Lodge Park this > past Friday afternoon at around 4PM.> > Also heard a Red Breasted Nuthatch in the pines> along the west road.> > Some Flickers and Robins as well as a hermit thrush> near Buck's Pond.> > Sorry for the late report.> > Jim> > PS. Check out the article about the Urbana Turkey's> in the Sunday paper!> Patrick Hubert was quoted...> > PPS. I too am begining to feel that these birds were> pen raised and then > released. (Although I haven't seen them yet.) A> turkey walking in > front of traffic doesn't seem much smarter than> some of the students > leaving KAM's at 1AM!!!> > PPPS. Do turkeys eat fermented grapes or berries in> the fall?> > > -- > James Hoyt> "The Prairie Ant"> Champaign Co. Audubon> Co-steward Parkland College Prairies.> Monitor Urbana Park District Natural Areas.> Champaign County Master Gardener> Allerton Allies> Prairie Rivers Network> >*******************************************************************************>*******************************************************************************> "The human culture is considered to be a 'geologic> force' and with good > reason. But if we are at a stage where our actions> are to decide the > world's future, then surely we have reached a level> where we can be held > acountable for the world's future." Durward L. Allen

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__________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.comFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Oct 24 10:00:39 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Mon Oct 24 10:00:47 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)Message-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE3E0@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

The News-Gazette article featured a photo of one of the Urbana turkeys.The credit said "Photo provided by Mark Cowan".

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of DerekLiebertSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 9:48 AMTo: Bird NotesSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)

I have not had a chance to see the NG article yet butam very curious about the habits of these birds. Iwould like to request that if anyone has pictures ofthe Urbana turkeys that they would like to shareplease send them to me at derekliebert@yahoo.com.

Thanks,Derek

--- charlene anchor <charleneanchor@msn.com> wrote:

> If these are domesticated turkeys maybe they are> shopping around for a home. Maybe we should catch> them and send them over to Homer Lake?> > Charlene Anchor> > ----- Original Message -----> From: James Hoyt> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:08 AM> Cc: Bird Notes> Subject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call> heard)> > Birders,> > I may have heard a turkey's gobble near the west> side of Lodge Park this > past Friday afternoon at around 4PM.> > Also heard a Red Breasted Nuthatch in the pines> along the west road.> > Some Flickers and Robins as well as a hermit thrush> near Buck's Pond.> > Sorry for the late report.> > Jim> > PS. Check out the article about the Urbana Turkey's> in the Sunday paper!> Patrick Hubert was quoted...> > PPS. I too am begining to feel that these birds were> pen raised and then > released. (Although I haven't seen them yet.) A> turkey walking in > front of traffic doesn't seem much smarter than> some of the students > leaving KAM's at 1AM!!!> > PPPS. Do turkeys eat fermented grapes or berries in> the fall?> >

> -- > James Hoyt> "The Prairie Ant"> Champaign Co. Audubon> Co-steward Parkland College Prairies.> Monitor Urbana Park District Natural Areas.> Champaign County Master Gardener> Allerton Allies> Prairie Rivers Network> >*******************************************************************************>*******************************************************************************> "The human culture is considered to be a 'geologic> force' and with good > reason. But if we are at a stage where our actions> are to decide the > world's future, then surely we have reached a level> where we can be held > acountable for the world's future." Durward L. Allen> "Our Wildlife Legacy">*******************************************************************************>*******************************************************************************> > > _______________________________________________> Birdnotes mailing list> Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org>https://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes> > _______________________________________________> Birdnotes mailing list> Birdnotes@lists.prairienet.org>https://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes>

Derek Liebert Natural Areas CoordinatorUrbana Park District 901 N. Broadway, Urbana, IL 61801 217-344-9583 (W), 217-417-1120 (H) daliebert@urbanaparks.org / derekliebert@yahoo.com

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The behavior attributed to the Urbana turkeys is not entirelyinconsistent with wild turkey behavior.

I myself have come upon wild turkeys a couple of times on Californiabackroads where they took their own sweet time getting off the roadwhile I sat in my car waiting.

And here's another example (not sure why the headline says "OhioOfficials" since this took place in Indiana):

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0305/217123.html

Bernie

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of James HoytSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:08 AMCc: Bird NotesSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)

Birders,

I may have heard a turkey's gobble near the west side of Lodge Park this

past Friday afternoon at around 4PM.

PPS. I too am begining to feel that these birds were pen raised and then

released. (Although I haven't seen them yet.) A turkey walking in front of traffic doesn't seem much smarter than some of thestudents leaving KAM's at 1AM!!!

acountable for the world's future." Durward L. Allen "Our WildlifeLegacy"**************************************************************************************************************************************************************

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What an exciting game! First...we sit in the SE corner, where a Kestralwas both perched and circling. Perhaps he was catching bugs...therewere a number of large moths and others (Mantises?) flying around. Ihad great views of the falcon soaring, diving, and passing right overour heads!

Then a couple of Vampires appeared! They nearly shook us out of ourseats! (OK...these were jet fighters...they sent the falcon aloftagain).

The falcon continued to fly about. A few Mourning Doves flew by. Later

in the game, we actually had REAL bats flying overhead (I thought it wasa bit cold, but they didn't, I guess).

Then the game ended and we went home...I don't remember who won...

Bob :)From bernies at uillinois.edu Mon Oct 24 14:21:35 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Mon Oct 24 14:21:37 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Meadowbrook mid-dayMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE42B@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Took a stroll around Meadowbrook Park around the noon hour. Fair amountof activity...

* House finch near entrance to Windsor Road parking lot.* Big male pheasant along the edge of the grassy area south of theplay structure.* Some juncos and white throated sparrows along the south edge ofthat grassy area.* Female pheasant at southeast corner of park.* Coopers hawk along southern edge of park.* Red-bellied woodpecker in southwest corner.* American kestrel flying over southwest corner.* Possible red-shouldered hawk over UI Forestry.* Rough-legged hawk in sycamore along McCullough Creek kinda nearWindsor Road parking lot. Several species of smaller birds were justshowing up to mob it as it flew away* Possible field sparrow in prairie* Possible clay colored sparrow at edge of prairie near woodedarea* Fair number of crows throughout the park* Lots of robins feeding on berries and fruits* More grackles than I cared to count...very active and noisy* NO TURKEYS :-)

Mammals:

* Squirrels and rabbits, of course* Fair sized whitetail buck in southeast corner of park* Whitetail doe east of garden area, south of sidewalk* Coyote scat near the edge of sidewalk in several spots

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This morning about 9:30AM I watched a hummingbird briefly inspect thered blossoms of some impatiens I have in pots on my patio before itdecided there was nothing to gain and headed in the general direction ofa neighbor's hummingbird feeder (not sure if the feeder is still beingfilled, but the feeder is still there).

I never really pay much attention to hummingbirds...if I don't feed themthey don't stay in one place long enough for me to watch. But in thebrief time I watched it, it looked kind of reddish bronze-colored (Ican't think of a good way to describe the color)...I was mostly gettinga rear view.

Anyway, I took a brief break from work a few minutes ago and took a lookat my Peterson guide. It could only have been a rufous hummingbird.First I've ever seen.

From bernies at uillinois.edu Tue Oct 25 00:00:11 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Tue Oct 25 00:00:19 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)Message-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE49D@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

The behavior attributed to the Urbana turkeys is not entirelyinconsistent with wild turkey behavior.

I myself have come upon wild turkeys a couple of times on Californiabackroads where they took their own sweet time getting off the roadwhile I sat in my car waiting.

And here's another example (not sure why the headline says "OhioOfficials" since this took place in Indiana):

http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0305/217123.html

Bernie

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of James HoytSent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:08 AMCc: Bird NotesSubject: Re: [Birdnotes] turkeys (Possible call heard)

Birders,

I may have heard a turkey's gobble near the west side of Lodge Park this

past Friday afternoon at around 4PM.

PPS. I too am begining to feel that these birds were pen raised and then

released. (Although I haven't seen them yet.) A turkey walking in front of traffic doesn't seem much smarter than some of thestudents leaving KAM's at 1AM!!!

acountable for the world's future." Durward L. Allen "Our WildlifeLegacy"*******************************************************************************

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_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotesFrom REGEHR5 at aol.com Tue Oct 25 09:47:41 2005From: REGEHR5 at aol.com (REGEHR5@aol.com)Date: Tue Oct 25 09:47:50 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Sandhill Crane tripMessage-ID: <213.c5c9ae4.308f9f8d@aol.com>

Thousands of Sandhill Cranes stop at Jasper-Pulaski Game Preservein northern Indiana on the way south each fall. Champaign CountyAudubon Society is sponsoring a trip to see them on Saturday,October 29. Meet at l0:00 AM at the Anita Purves Nature Center,1505 N. Broadway, Urbana. We carpool, sharing gas expense.Bring lunch and money for an evening meal...we stop at a restauranton the way back, arriving here by l0:00 P.M. Watching cranes come in for the night is a fine experience,but many cranes can be seen from the observation deck during theday if birders wish to return earlier. Everyone is welcome. John Chato leads. Questions: 344-6803.-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051025/2936eb95/attachment.htmFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Wed Oct 26 12:29:42 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Wed Oct 26 12:29:45 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] FW: [B-BIRDS] Whooping CranesMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE593@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Thought this might be of interest to you all, since the whooping cranesare apparently traveling over Illinois.

Bernie Sloan

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From: Bloomington Bird Sightings[mailto:BLOOMINGTON-BIRDS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU] On Behalf Ofaliciacraig@COMCAST.NETSent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:28 AMTo: BLOOMINGTON-BIRDS-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDUSubject: [B-BIRDS] Whooping Cranes

Thought maybe the information I receive about the Whooping Cranereintroduction project from Operation Migration folks would be ofinterest to birders in Indiana. We may try to do a stop over watch atthe Muscatatuck Wildlife Refuge agian this year.

Migration Update, October 26, 2005 - Day 13

First light - decision time. Look - 39 degrees. Check - ground wind 6mphout of the north. Ponder - an ultralight goes 'upstairs' to check thingsout....and Yes! it's a go.

Joe took to the air under partly cloudy skies with what looked like 16of the 20 birds in tow around 7:40am. The ground crew watched as anotherultralight (couldn't see whose) headed out and then circled back with 3youngsters following. Circling, circling, circling, and then whatever itwas seemed to be resolved as they too flew off toward La Salle County,IL.

The decision was made to crate and transport 516. You will recall thisis the poor critter that got caught up in Brooke's aircraft wiresearlier in the migration. It still seems hesitant, and the team wereafraid that if it wouldn't or couldn't stick with the flock, it wouldtempt others to break off and follow it. More on 516 will likely be inthe update later today

Today's destination is in La Salle County, IL. Named for the explorerRobert de la Salle (the Frenchman who sailed down the Mississippi toclaim Louisanna for France), La Salle has a population of 112,335 andcovers 1,135 square miles.

Please check our Field journal later in the day for further entries.http://www.operationmigration.org/Field_Journal.html<http://www.operationmigration.org/Field_Journal.html%20>

Alicia Craig

--Director, Bird Conservation Alliance

American Bird Conservancy 317-251-BIRD (office) 317-254-0639 (home)

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Just wondering if anyone has seen any relatively recent signs of beaveractivity in Meadowbrook Park?

I know they've been there in the past. At one point I remember at leastthree dams with water ponded behind them, one of the ponds even had alodge (it was more or less behind the "Fluke" sculpture on the smallersidewalk loop).

On a couple of occasions in the distant past, I recall that the City ofUrbana Engineering Department came into the park to breach the damsand/or try to channelize McCullough Creek in an attempt to remedy aflooded basement problem in the neighborhood across Windsor Road fromthe park. Beavers eventually made a comeback each time.

As I recall, the last time the dams were breached, it was due to naturalcauses. I'm thinking January 2001? One night there was a torrential rainand the runoff in McCullough Creek breached all three dams. I don'trecall seeing any beavers after that with perhaps one exception. A youngbeaver built a dam south of the bridge by the Windsor Road parking lot.Later I heard from someone else who frequented Meadowbrook that thebeaver had been behaving strangely and was taken to the Vet Med WildlifeClinic where it was diagnosed with distemper and died.

Anyway, I'm curious to know if there's been any relatively recentactivity? I know that one side effect of the beavers' absence is thatthe banks of parts of the creek have become choked with willows.

From spendelo at uiuc.edu Wed Oct 26 21:06:55 2005From: spendelo at uiuc.edu (Jacob Spendelow)

Date: Wed Oct 26 21:07:03 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] GC Kinglet specimen, and hummingbird vagrancyMessage-ID: <6.0.0.22.2.20051026204545.01fcf7c8@express.cites.uiuc.edu>

Hi everyone,A friend of mine found a window-killed Golden-crowned Kinglet today. It is in his freezer at the moment. Does anyone know a local ornithologist who needs this sort of specimen?

Also, remember to take a second look at any hummingbirds you see in the coming weeks! The prevalence of fall vagrant Selasphorus hummingbirds (mostly Rufous, also Allen's) has increased markedly in the eastern US in recent years. A hummingbird seen in late fall will more likely be Rufous than Ruby-throated. I looked for Bernie's rufous-type hummingbird yesterday without success, and as far as I know he has not seen it again either, but it is likely still in town.

Jacob SpendelowChampaign

From bernies at uillinois.edu Wed Oct 26 21:52:20 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Wed Oct 26 21:52:24 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] GC Kinglet specimen, and hummingbird vagrancyMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2854BE5E0@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Jacob is right...I haven't seen the Rufous-type hummingbird since.

Just wanted to provide some more detail. I was home later in the morningthan usual because I had a 10:30 doctor's appointment. I was killingtime idly looking out at my side patio, wondering when my impatienswould be finished off by frost. A hummingbird came by, looking like itwas foraging, inspecting the impatiens blossoms, apparently decidingthey weren't worth it. Then it headed to a neighbor's feeder.

As I told Jacob, this is not a big hummer neighborhood a far as I cantell. They don't seem to be particularly common. But I know what I saw.I saw a hummer from the rear and that it was mostly a rusty orange coloras it flew to the neighbor's to the east. I didn't think anything aboutit until I thought to look at my Peterson's field guide later that day,and I know for sure it wasn't a ruby throat!

I immediately thought Rufous from the field guide. Jacob raised thequestion of Allen's, which I hadn't thought of before.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org[mailto:birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org] On Behalf Of JacobSpendelowSent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:07 PM

To: birdnotes@prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] GC Kinglet specimen, and hummingbird vagrancy

Hi everyone,A friend of mine found a window-killed Golden-crowned Kinglet today. Itis in his freezer at the moment. Does anyone know a local ornithologistwho needs this sort of specimen?

Also, remember to take a second look at any hummingbirds you see in the coming weeks! The prevalence of fall vagrant Selasphorus hummingbirds (mostly Rufous, also Allen's) has increased markedly in the eastern USin recent years. A hummingbird seen in late fall will more likely beRufous than Ruby-throated. I looked for Bernie's rufous-type hummingbird yesterday without success, and as far as I know he has not seen it again

either, but it is likely still in town.

Jacob SpendelowChampaign

_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotesFrom charleneanchor at msn.com Thu Oct 27 08:35:57 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Thu Oct 27 08:30:37 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Avian flu infoMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV7D1DC4034BE66B58DEE0BC6680@phx.gbl>

Since most of us are birdwatchers, and many are also birdfeeders, I'm passing on a website from the Cornell Lab giving info for both categories.

www.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/News/avian_flu.htm

Note: There is a _ in the space between "avian" and "flu" in the above address. It doesn't show up because of the underline.

Charlene Anchor-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051027/7a899822/attachment.htmFrom jbchato at uiuc.edu Thu Oct 27 10:20:47 2005From: jbchato at uiuc.edu (John & Beth Chato)Date: Thu Oct 27 10:20:50 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] bird bath heatersMessage-ID: <e296e9ee.51dda8ee.836ff00@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>

I had a phone call from Henry Frayne asking about people's experiences

with different types of bird bath heaters. He was particularly interested in ones that kept it easy to clean out the bird bath in winter. The Nature shop stocks three kinds, a heavy duty thermostat controlled one from Nelson, a less expensive heavy aluminum foil coil, and my favorite the insulated bowl, non-electric Solar Sipper. I can easily order other kinds, and would be interested in hearing what people recommend or not.Henry's e-mail is h-frayne@will.uiuc.edu if you want to send him ideas directly; but I would like some discussion on Birdnotes as well.John C. Chato714 W. Vermont Ave.Urbana, IL 61801217-344-6803From dolson at ccfpd.org Thu Oct 27 14:49:12 2005From: dolson at ccfpd.org (Daniel J. Olson)Date: Thu Oct 27 14:50:08 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] bird bath heatersIn-Reply-To: <e296e9ee.51dda8ee.836ff00@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>References: <e296e9ee.51dda8ee.836ff00@expms1.cites.uiuc.edu>Message-ID: <32576.66.158.169.111.1130442552.squirrel@www.technology-specialists.com>

I am not at all familiar with the Solar Sipper and would like to know moreif you are willing. In particular I am interested in what temperatures itkeeps water unfrozen, and how long you have had yours. Thanks John.

Daniel J. Olson

> I had a phone call from Henry Frayne asking about people's experiences> with different types of bird bath heaters. He was particularly interested> in> ones that kept it easy to clean out the bird bath in winter. The Nature> shop> stocks three kinds, a heavy duty thermostat controlled one from Nelson, a> less expensive heavy aluminum foil coil, and my favorite the insulated> bowl, non-electric Solar Sipper. I can easily order other kinds, and would> be interested in hearing what people recommend or not.> Henry's e-mail is h-frayne@will.uiuc.edu if you want to send him ideas> directly; but I would like some discussion on Birdnotes as well.> John C. Chato> 714 W. Vermont Ave.> Urbana, IL 61801> 217-344-6803> _______________________________________________> Birdnotes mailing list

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Daniel J. OlsonDirector of Natural ResourcesChampaign County Forest Preserve DistrictP.O. Box 1040Mahomet, IL 61853(217) 586-4389Fax (217) 586-6853From ccas at prairienet.org Thu Oct 27 21:42:38 2005From: ccas at prairienet.org (ccas@prairienet.org)Date: Thu Oct 27 21:47:24 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] CCAS websiteMessage-ID: <1323.65.136.153.148.1130467358.squirrel@mail.prairienet.org>

Birders,

Get all the information you need about upcoming CCAS field trips andevents by going to our website: www.champaigncountyaudubon.org

Special highlight this month: Pictures of volunteers at our booth at thePrairieland Feeds Fall Festival in Savoy on Oct. 1 & 2. Find them on thehome page.

Happy birding!PamCCAS webmasterFrom charleneanchor at msn.com Fri Oct 28 08:38:01 2005From: charleneanchor at msn.com (charlene anchor)Date: Fri Oct 28 08:32:42 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] bird bath heatersMessage-ID: <BAY102-DAV3A2A0E2F768E52C6E04D7C66B0@phx.gbl>

I'm not sure I can add anything of importance to the bird bath heater discussion except to describe what I use. I have 3 bird baths and use 2 heavy duty thermostat controlled ones (they may be Nelson but I'm not sure) and 1 utility de-icer. I use so many because I have so many birds in winter using them. I've always bought expensive thermostat controlled because I'm concerned about the water/electricity combination and I don't want to be "frying" any of the birds or myself. Also I figure they will last longer. I always set a thin brick paver over each of them to keep them in place and provide a place for the birds to stand in the middle of the bird bath. It works great and I don't have to worry about the heater dislodging in some manner to due the squirrels, etc.

I don't know of any heater that makes it easier to clean the bird baths. Because mine have high usage I end up cleaning them everyday. Ice doesn't form unless the temperatures drop very low. Then warm water frees everything up.

The solar sipper sounds interesting although the only one I've seen was very small. My birds would have to line up, one at a time. But I'm

thinking of getting one this year anyway just as an extra. It sounds like it would need minimal maintenance. I would like to hear more about the solar one as well.

Charlene Anchor

----- Original Message -----From: John & Beth ChatoSent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:20 AMTo: BirdnotesSubject: [Birdnotes] bird bath heaters

I had a phone call from Henry Frayne asking about people's experiences with different types of bird bath heaters. He was particularly interested in ones that kept it easy to clean out the bird bath in winter. The Nature shop stocks three kinds, a heavy duty thermostat controlled one from Nelson, a less expensive heavy aluminum foil coil, and my favorite the insulated bowl, non-electric Solar Sipper. I can easily order other kinds, and would be interested in hearing what people recommend or not.Henry's e-mail is h-frayne@will.uiuc.edu if you want to send him ideas directly; but I would like some discussion on Birdnotes as well.John C. Chato714 W. Vermont Ave.Urbana, IL 61801217-344-6803_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: https://mail.prairienet.org/pipermail/birdnotes/attachments/20051028/2a68eb88/attachment.htmFrom jwhoyt at prairienet.org Sun Oct 30 00:03:03 2005From: jwhoyt at prairienet.org (James Hoyt)Date: Sun Oct 30 00:03:03 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Jasper Pulaski County Crane Viewing Road TripIn-Reply-To: <1323.65.136.153.148.1130467358.squirrel@mail.prairienet.org>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510292344150.32267-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

Birders,

Willow slough was very slightly overcast but clearing at 60 degrees F.

Mostly sunny.

Saw 1 GB Heron 1 Sandpiper sp. 1 Redheaded Woodpecker 1 bluejay

several hundred coot

Heard 1 Golden Crowned Kinglet Jasper Pulaski

Near 1st Lookout65 Degrees Clear skySunny

Saw 11 Cedar Waxwings

2 RH woodpeckers1 Bluejaya few 100 Sand Hill Cranes5 deer2 Black Capped Chickadees

2nd Stop at main marsh roosting area40 degrees at sunsetclear sky but red sunset

6+ Rusty BlackbirdsAt least a hundred Red Winged Blackbirds in the cattails and trees

Several RobinsBluejay2 Peregrine Falcons6+ GB Herons2 probable Loons 2 PB Grebesseveral coot4 or 5 wilsons snipe4 Large Canada geeseHeard KingfisherSome mystery ducks far far away

Several Thousand Sandhill Cranes overhead, roosting in the marsh, and on the service road within the restricted area.

Possibly some grackles

1 coopers hawk tormenting some blackbirds

Orange and blue flaming waters backdropped with a beautifully Memorable Sunset!!!!!!

Yours very truly.

Jim :)-- James Hoyt"The Prairie Ant"Champaign Co. AudubonCo-steward Parkland College Prairies.

Monitor Urbana Park District Natural Areas.Champaign County Master GardenerAllerton AlliesPrairie Rivers Network

From jwhoyt at prairienet.org Sun Oct 30 14:46:56 2005From: jwhoyt at prairienet.org (James Hoyt)Date: Sun Oct 30 18:13:27 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Jasper Pulaski County Crane Viewing Road TripIn-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510292344150.32267-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0510301438200.16979-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>

Birders,

Sorry I forgot to mention the many Red Tailed Hawks and Turkey Vulchers that we saw from the roads between Willow Slough and Jasper Pulaski.

Jim :)

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From ddbrown1 at uiuc.edu Sun Oct 30 17:56:41 2005From: ddbrown1 at uiuc.edu (Daniel Brown)Date: Sun Oct 30 20:36:28 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] starlings questionMessage-ID: <4a77a27c.5397690d.c7d9a00@expms4.cites.uiuc.edu>

Hi, I am an art student at UofI and wanted to film starlings as part of a project I am working on. I was hoping somebody could answer a few questions for me.

Do starlings migrate from here during winter?If so, have they left already?I have seen large groups of starlings around Bradley and Neil, but have not seen them for a while. If I want to film starlings, where can I find them? Where and when do they group together?

I would appreciate any other info that you think may be helpful.

Thank you,DanielFrom bernies at uillinois.edu Sun Oct 30 21:02:26 2005From: bernies at uillinois.edu (Sloan, Bernie)Date: Sun Oct 30 21:31:14 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] starlings questionMessage-ID: <E55062D772EBD348B31AC9C98106F2851B4F5D@pbmail.ui.uillinois.edu>

Daniel, I can't answer your questions from the perspective of an ornithologist about starling migration, but I do know that there are starlings here year round. About 10-11 years ago I had a serious starling problem in the winter. It was a colder than normal winter and I had a brick chimney with no cap on it. The starlings would crowd around the chimney top to be warmed by the exhaust gases from my furnace. Occasionally the starlings closest to the chimney edge would pass out and fall down the chimney. Once they hit a certain point they would be below the part of the furnace that emitted the exhaust gasses. Then they would revive and get out of the furnace and into the basement. I went away for Christmas for a few days that year, before I knew I had a starling "problem". I left the door from the kitchen to the basement open so that the temps wouldn't get too cold inside. When I returned, there were starlings in my house. They had kocked over the Christmas tree and broken into every food item that they could find. Needless to say, I wound up putting a metal cap on the chimney (I worked overtime to make sure all the starlings in the house escaped through an open door or window).

One other thing to think about...when you see big flocks of black birds they are not necessarily all starlings. Often they are flocks of grackles with some starlings mixed in, and maybe even some red-winged blackbirds. Anyway, you could think you are filming a flock of starlings, and there could actually be few starlings in the group. Bernie Sloan

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From: birdnotes-bounces@lists.prairienet.org on behalf of Daniel BrownSent: Sun 10/30/2005 5:56 PMTo: birdnotes@lists.prairienet.orgSubject: [Birdnotes] starlings question

Hi, I am an art student at UofI and wanted to film starlings as part of a project Iam working on. I was hoping somebody could answer a few questions for me.

Do starlings migrate from here during winter?If so, have they left already?I have seen large groups of starlings around Bradley and Neil, but have not seenthem for a while. If I want to film starlings, where can I find them? Where andwhen do they group together?

I would appreciate any other info that you think may be helpful.

Thank you,Daniel_______________________________________________Birdnotes mailing listBirdnotes@lists.prairienet.orghttps://mail.prairienet.org/mailman/listinfo/birdnotes

From lambeth at ad.uiuc.edu Mon Oct 31 07:47:05 2005From: lambeth at ad.uiuc.edu (Gregory S Lambeth)Date: Mon Oct 31 07:51:26 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Clinton Lake 10/30Message-ID: <1343607D07FABB4B9E0806679E555A6B01844CA2@odosmail.ad.uiuc.edu>

I spent the afternoon at Clinton Lake and Allerton Park yesterday with my kids. I had the Pomarine Jeager at the Peninsula Day Use area for about 5 minutes, but didn't see the bird again. Also at Clinton Lake, I had 5 Horned Grebes, 1 Common Egret, 1 Bald Eagle and 1 Common Loon. There are currently good numbers of Bonaparte's Gulls on the lake.

I looked around briefly for owls at Allerton -- the only find was a calling Barred Owl and a red-phase Screech Owl hit by a car.

Greg LambethFrom rdigges at excite.com Mon Oct 31 12:35:58 2005From: rdigges at excite.com (Roger)Date: Mon Oct 31 12:36:03 2005Subject: [Birdnotes] Clinton Lake Pomarine JaegerMessage-ID: <20051031183558.381B9B6E1@xprdmailfe17.nwk.excite.com>

The POMARINE JAEGER was still present off the Peninsula Day Use area Monday morning at around 9 a.m. I observed a flyover from the pavilion, and then later saw the bird on the water from the pipeline area. I also observed the HORNED GREBES observed by others, but not the Common Loons. (They may have been west of me; I didn't observe from the west boat ramp.) On the east end of the lake, I failed to locate the American Avocets reported earlier, but did find WILSON'S SNIPE, PECTORAL SANDPIPERS, NORTHERN SHOVELERS, and numerous KILLDEER in that area.

Roger DiggesUrbana

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