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Invicta not proud of the meteorite Sea Mount?
First off, I am not saying the dial is not what it is!
I really don't understand this? A not-so common element used for a dial that is 4 billion years old and
only 2 watch companies use this regularly, as stated.
I received the Sea Mount/meteorite dial, and maybe I am missing something, but there is no
identification anywhere on the watch that states it has a meteorite anything and no paperwork
accompanies the watch stating the dial is genuine Gibeon meteorite. Now, if I were a manufacturer
with use of this very limited resource, you would think I would want to state this fact somewhere on
the product or include something stating this fact and be proud of it! I have seen it put on other models
with the meteorite dial, so why not this model?
WHY???????????????
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Rick is it still Ticken? Be happy then.... what your saying make alot of sense, but I do not have the anwser
your looking for...
I am sure someone will chime in to make your ? become understanding....
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Kind of a good question
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Well, dial material isn't a normal spec to be listed on a watch. But I see your point.
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Totally agree Rick Why not state it somewhere how rare a material it is
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Well, dial material isn't a normal spec to be listed on a watch. But I see your point.
meteorite is not a "normal" dial
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It's as much a selling point as a movement, a bigger one at that...course they don't often put movement
info on there either...seems the only thing they're ALL proud of is water resistance!
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My guess. They may have had a lot of casebacks already completed and engraved from their other
production runs of the Seamount. It would cost money to machine a special run for this watch to say
meteorite dial. A certificate would be nice but again maybe not cost effective. I guess if you want docs for
a meteorite dial watch, you just have to spent about 10K.
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Never got a certificate with any of my meteorite dials.....
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I always wonder the same & not sure we'll ever get an answer?
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My guess. They may have had a lot of casebacks already completed and engraved from their other
production runs of the Seamount. It would cost money to machine a special run for this watch to say
meteorite dial. A certificate would be nice but again maybe not cost effective. I guess if you want docs
for a meteorite dial watch, you just have to spent about 10K.
Yeah, Roger, but what I don't understand is that other models state this and they too, have other
variations that are not this very exclusive material. They have this as a specialty model, so the
caseback should be special also, like bragging rights.
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Not proud of the dial? Or the watch? Wow...just when you think you have seen it all.
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Gibeon meteorite FACTS...
Hey RICK maybe this will Help You...Checking out some facts and if you want some great info on
Gibeon Meteorite and price follow this link..
http://www.meteoritemarket.com/GNet.htm
http://www.meteoritemarket.com/GNinfo.htm Learn About the Gibeon Meteorite,History orgin...
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Never got a certificate with any of my meteorite dials.....
But does your caseback have the dial material engraved?
I see that on other models and I have not researched to see if all the other models that use the
meteorite dial state this. I have seen it on the OG.
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I have two Reserve pieces with meteorite dials, and neither one states the fact...I think the idea is the
material speaks for itself...Nothing else quite looks like that.
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Yeah a guy at work tried to guess what my Meteorite COSC dial was....only thing he came up with was an
'erased chunk of an old 'etch-a-sketch'...
Would be nice to have it on the caseback/dial; and I agree 100% with you!
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New thread.. old topic.
Some of us have brought this to attention already in the past. None of the timepieces, that I know of or
have seen, that Invicta produces/sources that use rare materials ever come with certificate of
authenticity.
"It's stamped on the caseback" and ''we say so''.. that's usually the answer I hear.
Someone will surely bring up the ''cost'' involved in appraising or getting that certificate. That's not an
issue. When spending a grand or more on a rare material timepiece, an extra $50-$75 for this certificate
to come with the watch is not a deal breaker.
Also need to look at it from a customer's point of view when trying to resell it to someone else. What
proof do they have that it's real?
Good question Rick.. let us know when you get an answer.
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New thread.. old topic.
Some of us have brought this to attention already in the past. None of the timepieces, that I know of or
have seen, that Invicta produces/sources that use rare materials ever come with certificate of
authenticity.
"It's stamped on the caseback" and ''we say so''.. that's usually the answer I hear.
Someone will surely bring up the ''cost'' involved in appraising or getting that certificate. That's not an
issue. When spending a grand or more on a rare material timepiece, an extra $50-$75 for this certificate
to come with the watch is not a deal breaker.
Also need to look at it from a customer's point of view when trying to resell it to someone else. What
proof do they have that it's real?
Good question Rick.. let us know when you get an answer.
I have seen some of the Reserve Pro Divers with the tiniest diamond hour markets you have seen,
marked on the caseback as 'diamonds certified by invicta'.
I think any certificate or caseback stamping would cost cents to invicta, not dollars IMO.
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Not proud of the dial? Or the watch? Wow...just when you think you have seen it all.
The dial, Mike, the dial.
As exclusive as this material is you would think Invicta would emphasize it somewhere on the watch or
include a certificate stating that it is meteorite . 4 BILLION yrs old and fell from the universe! I really
can't understand why other models have it on the caseback that have this meteorite dial, so why not
this model and others? Is the meteorite not something that special to be on a "specialty" labeled
watch! I think it is, and I sure would want to be proud of that fact!
The watch is SWEET, but this, I don't understand.
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The same question can be ask about the 7750
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New thread.. old topic.
Some of us have brought this to attention already in the past. None of the timepieces, that I know of or
have seen, that Invicta produces/sources that use rare materials ever come with certificate of
authenticity.
"It's stamped on the caseback" and ''we say so''.. that's usually the answer I hear.
Someone will surely bring up the ''cost'' involved in appraising or getting that certificate. That's not an
issue. When spending a grand or more on a rare material timepiece, an extra $50-$75 for this certificate
to come with the watch is not a deal breaker.
Also need to look at it from a customer's point of view when trying to resell it to someone else. What
proof do they have that it's real?
Good question Rick.. let us know when you get an answer.
Sorry, never saw the other threads on this.
I really don't think it has anything to do with cost either!
Your comment on the customer's point of view is spot on and that is a great point! Didn't even think
about that!
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Sorry, never saw the other threads on this.
I really don't think it has anything to do with cost either!
Your comment on the customer's point of view is spot on and that is a great point! Didn't even think
about that!
Those older threads on this topic are long gone.. some recent ones
http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=139309
http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=87345
One answer was... customers loose the certificate when the watch gets returned back to the shop and
the other was, Invicta used to make certificates.
Round and round we go....
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I have three meteorite dial watches and only one of them states meteorite dial on the case back. But as
soon as you see a meteorite dial you know what it is. The dial speaks for itself.
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Those older threads on this topic are long gone.. some recent ones
http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=139309
http://watchgeeks.net/showthread.php?t=87345
One answer was... customers loose the certificate when the watch gets returned back to the shop and
the other was, Invicta used to make certificates.
Round and round we go....
Thanks.
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This is one of my top 10 watches. Meteorite or not (and it is), this in my opinion is one of Invicta's sleepers.
You could get the paperwork for this one. $25,000.00 and thats 10% off too!
Looking at this, I'm thinking the Speedway DD with a meteorite dial would be the balls!
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[quote=STILL TICKIN;2384545]First off, I am not saying the dial is not what it is!
I really don't understand this? A not-so common element used for a dial that is 4 billion years old and only 2 watch companies use
this regularly, as stated.
I received the Sea Mount/meteorite dial, and maybe I am missing something, but there is no identification anywhere on the watch
that states it has a meteorite anything and no paperwork accompanies the watch stating the dial is genuine Gibeon meteorite.
Now, if I were a manufacturer with use of this very limited resource, you would think I would want to state this fact somewhere
on the product or include something stating this fact and be proud of it! I have seen it put on other models with the meteorite dial,
so why not this model?
WHY??????????????? [/QUOTE
Well I have never seen any watch that has mop or sandstone and have documents for it. What does that mean? I'm pretty sure it would be illegal
for them to try and fake customers into buying a product due to false advertisement. I doubt that invicta would lie to their customers
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[quote=blacksocom;2384870] Quote:
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First off, I am not saying the dial is not what it is!
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Well I have never seen any watch that has mop or sandstone and have documents for it.
What does that mean? I'm pretty sure it would be illegal for them to try and fake
customers into buying a product due to false advertisement. I doubt that invicta would lie
to their customers
As my opening statement states, I am not doubting that it is meteorite!
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[quote=STILL TICKIN;2384905] Quote:
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As my opening statement states, I am not doubting that it is meteorite!
So what are you asking, because if you are asking invicta to give a certificate of authenticity
then there have been a few of those threads before. A lot of ppl agree with giving one with
the watch, so I think it is only a matter of time before they start doing it. So sit tight, and be
patient.
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Would figure that the caseback is as simple as saving a few bucks, and using the same
caseback that the other seamount, and perhaps other lines use. Not sure what the cost of
the paperwork would be (if it even exists), but sure that is a cost-cutter as well.
Not saying that in a bad way, in the end, allows for such a watch to be purchased at a very
reasonable price. I got it when it originally aired at 400+, and even then, I felt it was a good
buy. Unique look, and really thought the meteorite dial fit the watch perfectly, with the acid-
treated bezel. At 299, ABSOLUTE STEAL. Who cares about the caseback, or the paperwork.
Until right now, don't believe you could find this one for less than it originally aired
anywhere, and doubt you will see it at that price again...
Would you rather seen the watch at a Once Only in the mid-3's, and had a caseback and a
piece of paper? If so, sorry you aren't satisfied.
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Boy this is an old issue... Goes along with bad paperwork on good movements too.. Nothing
with my 7751 Meteorite as far as on the caseback or any paperwork that would make
mention of it being a genuine gibeon meteorite... WE know it is, and are not doubting it but
how cool would it be to have even a link on the Invicta website that talks about the history
of this, with some photos of the actual meteorite etc, let alone a certificate stating
authenticity -which if you were giving the watch as a gift, or passing it down to the next
generation would be nice to have.
Just another open ended question...
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I don't have a cert. for my meteorite Speedway but it does say "meteorite" on the case back.
For me, it's just personal satisfaction knowing what I have on my wrist.