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01-23-2012, 07:49 PM
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I see lots of Invicta bashing out there...
I currently own 4 Invicta watches right now and I love them all. In fact, at this current time,
it is the only brand of watch I own.
While lurking around the interwebs and checking out some other forums out there I see a lot
of Invicta haters and bashers out there. I am kind confused about the whole hate Invicta
crowd.
While reading through this forum there are certain things that Invicta can improve upon
including customer service. There also seems to be some models that do have some issues
(retrograde day for example). For the most part, though, I feel they build a quality watch. If
you buy from an Invicta dealer such as ShopNBC it seems like most issues are taken care of
and problems can be exchanged.
The funny thing is that on some of the other sites I have read discussions on how Invicta
simply copies watches from other companies and never comes out with their own ideas.
Really? How do you explain the SAS or the Bolt Zeus for example. There are simply not other
watches out there that come close to those designs. Invicta is clearly one step ahead in that
regaurd. Yes, the pro divers may be a Rolex Submariner copy and the Grand Divers may look
like other companies Dive watches...but all companies dive watches look similar!
I have also seen pictures of Invicta watches with "problems" that are clearly photoshoped to
make them look bad or worse than they are.
What causes this? Snobbery? The fact that the others may be a bit jealous that they are
paying 3-4 times as much for a similarly designed watch with the same movements?
I was shopping at the mall the other day and I stopped in to a Jewelry store to look at some
Tag Heuer watches. Don't know why...just always wanted one. A Formula 1 is about as much
as I would be able to afford at this time (but can't bring myself to spend the money). I was
wearing my Grand Diver with an NH25A movement that I spend $100 on. I then tried on a
Formula 1 Quartz watch. The first thing I noticed is that the bracelet on the watch felt cheap
compared to the GD. The watch also did not have the same solid feel. I can't explain it but I
just preferred my GD to the Formula 1. I would still love to own a Tag Carrera, but you can
get an Invicta with a similar movement at 1/5th the price.
This is just my observations on this issue. Anybody else want to elaborate on the haters out
there?
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01-23-2012, 07:53 PM
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01-23-2012, 07:54 PM
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They are haters that love to spread bs! Pay no attention to them. Most got banned from here
because of their obnoxious posts. So they have nothing better to do than to bash the
product and people here. This is the only forum for me. Lots of great peeps here.
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01-23-2012, 07:55 PM
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I can't elaborate on it for you, because I don't understand it either. I have seen some of the
sites you were talking about, and I guess it must be a mix of snobbery and maybe a little
jealousy that we are getting good, quality watches with quality movements at a fraction of
the prices the pay for higher-end watches. I guess they feel they are forced to buy the more
expensive watches to keep up appearances. Heaven forbid they are seen at the country club
with an Invicta on!
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01-23-2012, 07:55 PM
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01-23-2012, 07:55 PM
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I am in agreement...I just want to know why they have so much contempt for the brand. It
is puzzling to me.
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01-23-2012, 07:56 PM
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I do not have any comments on people that actually hate things as apposed to being upset
when they break or need repair. I have a dozen or more and that is the only brand I
currently buy....keep the venom coming!
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01-23-2012, 07:58 PM
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Some folks just have nothing better to do.
Buy what you like, and ignore them.
I myself am a world class ignorer (is that a word?).
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01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
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You know Invicta pleases, and many of our fellow WG's as well.
I could care less what detractors have to say.
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01-23-2012, 08:02 PM
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Some folks just have nothing better to do.
Buy what you like, and ignore them.
I myself am a world class ignorer (is that a word?).
Hahaha. It is now!
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01-23-2012, 08:08 PM
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I don't get it either. I absolutely love my Invictas. They are such a great product for the
money!!!
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01-23-2012, 08:09 PM
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This is truly sad. With that said, I can honestly say I had a bit of "watch snobbishness" in
me. Before buying Invicta, I had a Rolex Explorer II and an Omega Seamaster. I never
thought I would be looking at watches that weren't of the same "caliber". After discovering
Shop NBC, that snobbishness quickly subsided. Now, I am not saying Invicta isn't of quality,
but I have now taken on the mentality of "quantity vs. quality". Personally, I now own 22
Invicta watches and I have 3 more coming! I truly love the brand and have yet to experience
any issues with any of my watches! Hats off to Invicta! The quality is outstanding!
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01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
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The funny thing is that on some of the other sites I have read discussions on how Invicta
simply copies watches from other companies and never comes out with their own ideas.
Really? How do you explain the SAS or the Bolt Zeus for example. There are simply not
other watches out there that come close to those designs. Invicta is clearly one step ahead
in that regaurd. Yes, the pro divers may be a Rolex Submariner copy and the Grand Divers
may look like other companies Dive watches...but all companies dive watches look similar!
#1 : Where are they getting this from! The amount of designs from Invicta that are
different is so far from the truth from the above observances of the "other" sites . I
agree with you 100%.
#2 : Stay off the other sites! Actually this should be first!
#3 : Yes there is a definite issue with the application of the hands on the 8040.N
movement from Ronda. It is not the models that are a factor but hand application
issues on the movement. Ashame, but true.
Photoshopped to make them worse. Wow, that is nuts!
I have had my share of issues but I continue to buy from what I consider to be a
very innovative watch company with great ORIGINAL designs and nice pricing
structures that keep it fun.
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01-23-2012, 08:10 PM
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Hey any Invicta they don't like they can just send them to me. I love them!!
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01-23-2012, 08:16 PM
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#1 : Where are they getting this from! The amount of designs from Invicta that
are different is so far from the truth from the above observances of the "other"
sites . I agree with you 100%.
#2 : Stay off the other sites! Actually this should be first!
#3 : Yes there is a definite issue with the application of the hands on the 8040.N
movement from Ronda. It is not the models that are a factor but hand application
issues on the movement. Ashame, but true.
Photoshopped to make them worse. Wow, that is nuts!
I have had my share of issues but I continue to buy from what I consider to be a
very innovative watch company with great ORIGINAL designs and nice pricing
structures that keep it fun.
Yes...they are photoshopping (so poorly you can tell they are photoshopped) Invictas to
make them look bad. I saw one picture of a sea hunter that was photoshopped to make it
look like the strap had no holes in it. It looked nothing like the Invicta strap...
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01-23-2012, 08:16 PM
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You are right on. There is a lot of watch snobbery going on and some jealousy as well. I just
ignore it and wear my Invicta's proudly (and keep a lot of money in my pocket compared to
those that want to purchase a name)..
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01-23-2012, 08:18 PM
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It is what it is. We have the freedom to listen and take into consideration what we want.
People are going to bash different things for different reasons. Take the gun world, for
instance. If you could only buy two guns and ask a Glock fan which two he/she would buy
they would say a Glock and a Glock. They may not even know much about what makes other
models better or worse because they may have never entertained giving another gun a
chance. Gotta love the haters, or should I say hate the haters! LoL
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01-23-2012, 08:19 PM
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01-23-2012, 08:30 PM
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I am pretty sure most of them are bitter for one reason or another, my best guess is that
they have a nagging old Haggler at home and they have no ability to be a man at home or
work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I can
think of one such Turd Burglar and his name references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!
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01-23-2012, 08:32 PM
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I am pretty sure most of them are bitter for one reason or another, my best guess is that
they have a nagging old Haggler at home and they have no ability to be a man at home or
work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I
can think of one such Turd Burglar and his references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!
You nailed it Ron! LOL
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01-23-2012, 08:35 PM
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01-23-2012, 08:40 PM
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One thing I've noticed is that it isn't so much that there is a lot of hate for Invicta as much
as there is a few people who go a lot of places to spread hate. Take the time to read up on
who is posting on these certain sites. Some are specifically for the purpose of hating and
some others are about a select few telling everyone else what they should wear. I lie Invicta
so I post here. I get any answer I need from here and I don't have to deal with the bullcrap.
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01-23-2012, 08:41 PM
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Some people dont have lives & Invicta gives them something to b#$@h about. Suck to be
them. Just do what makes ya happy folks.WE're just common folk enjoying ourselves & thats
all that matters.
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01-23-2012, 08:42 PM
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01-23-2012, 08:45 PM
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They keep bashin' 'em and I keep buyin' em!!!
Screw 'em, I like what I get for the money. I am an educated consumer and I like what
I get, for the money I put out...
Hi-five Eyal!!!
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Love what you buy
and to hell with what people have to say.
+1 well put.
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01-23-2012, 08:51 PM
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The big picture of things and how we feel about ourselves comes to mind!.saying negative
things about watches and people is usually done to make them feel superior, or better than.
Principles, standards and quality representation is what i admire about invicta.watchgeeks is
a very forward organization. Simply put always looking ahead!. Peaceeeee
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01-23-2012, 08:53 PM
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some people are just like that. it even happens here. many times people will boast that they
have a 'real' one, such as an original san 3 2.4 or whatever, and that the later models are
somehow inferior.
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01-23-2012, 08:53 PM
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Its unfortunate that there will always be some that you cant please no matter what you do. I
just dont understand why some would spend so much energy hating something. If you don't
like Invicta watches, dont buy them. I started collecting Invictas about a year ago and
currently have around 24 and love everyone of them. I have bought many for friends and
family members in addition to my 24 and they all have loved them. I can't help but get a
little "joy" when I get compliments from individuals that are wearing something in the higher
end price range. It makes my day! Continue enjoying your Invicta watches and at the end of
the day, the only thing that matters is you being happy and getting enjoyment out of your
choice of watch.
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01-23-2012, 08:59 PM
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There are some legitimate quality control concerns we should not ignore but I think the
snobbery comes from the concept that Invicta portrays Swiss luxury for less., If your buying
Breguet, U. Nardin, Rolex you will have a problem with this concept, because you don't
equate them with Invicta....but many collectors of these models tire from the overpayment
and want to enjoy a certain current look or even trend and Invicta can fill that slot without
the financial stress, and its not pretentious and is fun. Watch collecting should be fun. I think
there is truth to the statement since we can all shop for quartz Tags and other brand names
that have similar movements to what we buy at Invicta and they are over 1000
dollars....where can you buy a pro diver valjoux 7750 for around 750, MOP dial or the pro
diver blue model with the blue bezel. Nowhere. There are some Homage watch models for
sure, so what. Invicta admits to it and just look at IWC Pilot watches and how many brand
names make a living replicating (homaging) that piece. Invicta has to mass produce and this
creates quality control issues, in my opinion. I also don't think thats a small problem,
unfortunately and they may not be making friends because of it. I think the problem for the
very expensive watch buyer is that it is likely that your Invicta will gather more attention
visually (big, colorfull,etc) than some 20,000 piece.
You shouldn't equate the Breguet Minute repeater with the minute repeater com ing out by
Invicta, that wouldn't be honest but the fact that a company cares to produce such a model
for a watch collector so they can enjoy a similar looking model, produced in a price range
thats obtainable for many is honorable. They are not tricking you into thinking they are
equal, they are producing it so everyone can enjoy what only the wealthy have been able to
experience.
An Invicta is Swiss Watch Luxury for less ( that is when you buy the Swiss Made Models),
alot less...and you can buy many different styles for this reason, rather than buying one
prestige piece and demanding others appreciate and notice its quality. Even the non-swiss
models have excellent value and really are packaged to give additional value.
Your enjoyment of this product shouldn't make anyone smug.
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01-23-2012, 08:59 PM
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I agree with the OP - the quartz F1 verses 6 or 7 Grand Divers, hmmm... for me , it is an
easy decision ( I have 5 GD's: black, blue, yellow, and both lume dials) -
the only Invicta bashing that gets to me are the dings on my watches ( I already dinged the
bezel on my new lume dial GD - battle tested, keeping great time.
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01-23-2012, 09:03 PM
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I own many Brands, one of my favorite watches is my 43mm reserve pro diver with the blue
bezel and meteorite dial,Yes it looks like a Rolex.Who cares that's not why I bought it.I
purchased it because I liked it and could afford it.I've never been on the other sites although
Invicta is not my only brand.I like it here.
And yes they have too much time on their hands
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01-23-2012, 09:09 PM
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I love Invicta. Keep em coming!
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01-23-2012, 09:19 PM
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What drives me nuts...is even if you have nothing better to do....they're WATCHES. It's not
something religious or political or let's bash on this persons theory about some "deep" topic
of our time but WATCHES. Some people need to get things in perspective.
With that said, I do find the negativity of some towards the brand baffling in most regards. I
can't think of another brand that has such an active group basically out to get a brand and
its buyers. I'm a member of various product forums and on none of those has someone
popped up and started ripping the product.
Now as for why? It is being snobby to a large extent, but a common theme I see is the claim
not so much that Invicta is an homage company but rather that the original designs are
tasteless...too big, gaudy in size and design and generally, from a watch design perspective,
not well executed. What do I think? Nothing screams wear me like my SAS, my SANIV, my
Lupah....I see other designs and they seem plain and uninteresting, uninteresting. Every
single person I've ever met who sees and holds my watches from Invicta are always blown
away and call them "classy" "looks like a million bucks" "works of art"...my boss who has no
clue what my watches cost jokingly said once that "you wouldn't need a raise if you'd stay
away from those paycheck a piece watches".
My point? I love many of the designs the company makes and the great value the brand
provides. And I feel and look great wearing them.
Simply put, the haters no matter their intentions ARE WRONG.
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01-23-2012, 09:22 PM
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I love all my Invictas, no one is going to convince me otherwise!
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01-23-2012, 09:28 PM
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People tell you who they are every day. By striking out at Invicta tells me they don't like
what they own and how much they spent. I love Invicta. They started me on my road to
watch collecting. I believe they provide the best watch for the dollar. Exciting styles, many
ground breaking. Go Invicta!
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01-23-2012, 09:30 PM
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I quit trying to understand the Invicta haters a long time ago. I like the direction Invicta is
going and I know I will be a supporter no matter what.
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01-23-2012, 09:33 PM
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I know the site and handle of the person in question of whom
you speak..Sir Ron!! I go over their on occasion but could care
less what they say...I buy what I like, regardless of what others
have to say about it...Some gripes are legit with respect to CS
issues and some are straight up exaggerations of the truth..so
they can get a rise out of people and get under their skin...I
have been on other forums and can see countless issues with
higher end brands that don't get the same exposure on the anti
sites like Invicta..Invicta does do homages to quite a few
watch brands out their, but I say whats wrong with that...so do
a lot of other brands...My Reserve Akula looks a hell of a lot
like a Concord C1 Chrono..but I like it so I buy it...Invicta also
has a number of models that are their own patented designs...I
like the cost to value I get from my Invicta's which is why I still
collect them..I don't care if Invicta holds the undisputed title
for the most hated watch company on the planet....I will still
buy their timepieces..
Jon
Quote:
Originally Posted by RipitRon
I am pretty sure most of them are bitter for one reason or another, my best guess is that
they have a nagging old Haggler at home and they have no ability to be a man at home or
work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I
can think of one such Turd Burglar and his name references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!
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01-23-2012, 09:41 PM
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Invicta has faults.
You have faults.
I have faults. Please don't dislike or hate me because you heard that I have made some
mistakes. Please don't hate me because I won't tell you every detail of my life. Please don't
hate me because I am considered successful.
If you look deep enough you can always find reasons to not like someone or something. Bill
and Ted has the best advice. "Be Excellent to each other."
Last edited by UncleDale; 01-24-2012 at 11:33 AM. Reason: Changed words
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It was about time that another thread like this came up. Clock work.
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Don't give it a second thought. Do you really care what others think about the make of the
car you drive? Or, the brand of shoes you wear? Or, the stores you visit?
I can pretty much bet that, if you look, you'll find forums being "snobs" about just anything
you can think of. The grown-up thing to do is to live your own life as you see fit.
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+ 1,2 and 3...
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Don't give it a second thought. Do you really care what others think about the make of the
car you drive? Or, the brand of shoes you wear? Or, the stores you visit?
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01-23-2012, 10:06 PM
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make love not hate
hats off to INVICTA,EYAL, Meijin
allow regular workin' stiffs like myseff to become "watch collectors"
ScottyB will always be grateful.
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01-23-2012, 10:16 PM
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Can you Imagine living your whole life knowing no matter how hard tried you could never
satisfy your partner? No wonder these clowns are so uptight! Hell I would be PISSED at
something or somebody every day myself. What a unfortunate set of individuals!
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01-23-2012, 10:19 PM
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LMFAO!!
Your not claiming that they are all impotent are you...LOL
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Can you Imagine living your whole life knowing no matter how hard tried you could never
satisfy your partner? No wonder these clowns are so uptight! Hell I would be PISSED at
something or somebody every day myself. What a unfortunate set of individuals!
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01-23-2012, 10:20 PM
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LMFAO!!
Your not claiming that they are all impotent are you...LOL
Jon
you mean they just need a little BUMP ?
UP
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Precisely...Question is, who's gonna help em out..to make
things a little more vertical..
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Originally Posted by hokk54
you mean they just need a little BUMP ?
UP
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01-23-2012, 10:23 PM
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Not worth the time or energy....enjoy Invicta and any other watch brands that please your
fancy
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Originally Posted by rxer311
Yes...they are photoshopping (so poorly you can tell they are photoshopped) Invictas to
make them look bad. I saw one picture of a sea hunter that was photoshopped to make it
look like the strap had no holes in it. It looked nothing like the Invicta strap...
would this be the sea hunter you speak of???
http://www.watchgeeks.net/showthread...er+strap+holes
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01-23-2012, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jwin66
LMFAO!!
Your not claiming that they are all impotent are you...LOL
Jon
Noooooo
No not at all, Inept yes Impotent I dont think so!
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I like my Invictas, they have served me very well and outside of the ocasional crystal fog I
honestly have no complaints. Even that is not really a complaint, because its an easy ~20
minute DIY fix.
The complaints I see on other forums come from:
-Poor QC inspection
-Warranty repair work taking too long
-The use of Asian movements in watches labeled as "SWISS MOVT", "SWISS" and "SWISS
PARTS MOVEMENT". While theres nothing technically wrong with doing this, people feel mis-
led and its often seen as a deceitful practice.
-The portrayal of the Invicta Reserve line (as a whole) being "SWISS MADE", when in reality
there have been a few asia-origin IR models.
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01-23-2012, 10:45 PM
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Does Invicta have QC/CS issues? Yep
But if you are happy with what you have and what you paid for them, that is all that really
matters.
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01-23-2012, 10:48 PM
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01-23-2012, 10:55 PM
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Thanks for clearing that one up!!
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Noooooo
No not at all, Inept yes Impotent I dont think so!
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01-23-2012, 11:17 PM
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There are haters that are just bashing to serve some personal purpose that only
they actually know.
Then, there are those former Invicta fans that become haters due to all, or some,
of the things listed below:
Quote:
Originally Posted by kramer5150
The complaints I see on other forums come from:
-Poor QC inspection
-Warranty repair work taking too long
-The use of Asian movements in watches labeled as "SWISS MOVT", "SWISS" and "SWISS
PARTS MOVEMENT". While theres nothing technically wrong with doing this, people feel
mis-led and its often seen as a deceitful practice.
-The portrayal of the Invicta Reserve line (as a whole) being "SWISS MADE", when in
reality there have been a few asia-origin IR models.
I know that the whole "Swiss" meaning Swiss Made issue almost sent me away from the
brand...
But, NOW that I know the truth, I can make more informed decisions, and buy the watches
without feeling like I was mislead.
Bottom line for me was... I enjoy the watches and it is fun for me to wear them. So, as
long as I am being told the truth about the watches, I can not only continue to buy them,
but I can "enable" others to do so too!!
Having said all that... had I chosen to ditch the Invicta brand, I still would not have the
personality/character to spend so much time hating Invicta on any and all forums I could!
That's just not ME...
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01-23-2012, 11:43 PM
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I would say you get what you pay for and you get what makes you happy! Invicta makes
some great looking watches and they also make some awful looking watches. To each's own
and there is no reason for snobbery. They really are a great value for what you get. In my
opinion they don't compare to the Omega's and Breitlings and Rolex's of the world. Just try
on a Omega Planet Ocean or a Breitling Chronomat and you will see and feel the difference.
However I do own a few Invictas and do like them and invite any watch lover to try the
brand. Not everyone has the same budget and Invicta and Shopnbc make nice watches
affordable.
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01-24-2012, 12:39 AM
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions as long as they are stated in good taste
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01-24-2012, 01:06 AM
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I like mine and I do not see anyone else making watches as nice for the money.
I have never had a problem with mine. I have had a problem with two other watches though
and you don't see me crying about them or writing books about it.
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01-24-2012, 01:10 AM
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I don't care about Invicta haters. Everytime I wear my Invicta I get compliments from lots of
people, even people I never met. It never happened to me with other brand's I've owned, so
I don't care what the haters think, I know my money was well spent. And another thing too
is that for the price of the movement that I choose, I wear my watches on a daily basis. It
doesn't sit in a cave until the sun comes out shining.
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01-24-2012, 01:16 AM
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I was also trashed big time by that site ,that I will leave nameless it is thier issue,s not mine
to know me is to love me !!!!!!
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01-24-2012, 07:06 AM
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I believe that if you go into buying an Invicta and knowing what you're getting and are
comfortable with the price you paid, it doesn't matter what anyone says. Out of my
collection, I only have 4 Invictas, 5 including my GD which didn't arrive yet, and I have had
zero issues as far as the movements go. My Reserve Ocean Reef is the only issue, with the
rose-gold layering fading away, but it's still a great watch. I see alot of bashing about the
crystals being used, I have zero scratches on any of my Invictas. I guess I am a little lucky
that I have not had to deal with their CS yet and actually send a watch in for repair, but my
experience with Invicta has been positive. Will I ever spend more than a few hundred on an
Invicta? Probably not, I feel the money can be better spent on a different brand, but that is
just my opinion.
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I am pretty sure most of them are bitter for one reason or another, my best guess is that
they have a nagging old Haggler at home and they have no ability to be a man at home or
work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I
can think of one such Turd Burglar and his name references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!
That's just funny!
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01-24-2012, 07:38 AM
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I have had 1 defective Invicta (bad date disk on a SAS) out of the 42 I own. I had also read
the Invicta horror stories on this forum which advised me not to send the watch back to
Invicta for repair so I just kept it and live with the date malfunction.
As for the "haters" I suspect a phone conversation with a less the effective Invicta CS rep or
waiting months for a warranty repair could sour the customer/vendor relationship. People
can have a negative reaction when their hard earned dollars are spent and they don't receive
the respect they deserve. IMO this is one area Invicta needs to improve in.
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01-24-2012, 07:39 AM
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To be honest I dont know or much less care what (the haters) or whatever you choose to call
them think. I own several Invictas (mostly Pro divers) and they are close to 50% of my
collection of 60 watches. A friend said it best when he said you cant beat the value for the
money spent. I do NOT compare them to any other watch out there..Ive seen the Rolex vs
Invicta ect stuff and it makes no sense. Apples and Oranges to me. I see where people have
problems with a specific watch and hey that happens. With the NUMBER of watches that
Invicta produces the rate of break downs is still low if looked at as a percentage. Example
years ago I bought a chevy Pickup, had problems with it from day one for 2 weeks back and
forth to the dealer, they finally gave me a new truck and it worked flawlessly. Did I whine
and complain to NOT buy Chevy's? NO I Knew that it can and does happen and when it did I
dealt with it. and as far as working..I have 2 watches sitting side by side one is a quartz
Invicta Pro Diver and one is a quartz Technomarine...they keep time with each other almost
to the second, the Prodiver was 1/10th the price of the Technomarine but performs as
well...So the people that gripe let them, I go by something Jim Skelton once said..Buy what
you Like and its never failed me yet
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01-24-2012, 07:40 AM
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I own lots of Invicta watches. Quality is top-notch. In my oopinion, Invicta is an incredible
and innovative watch company, especially when you consider how many different watches
they produce at any given time.
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01-24-2012, 08:58 AM
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I have about 15 Invictas and have owned about 50. People get angry with them but they are
a cheaper watch. You get what you pay for. My rule is never buy an Invicta over 400.00. The
quality is the same on a 50.00 or a 1500.00 Invicta. It seems to me the more expensive the
invicta the more issues they have. I have been buying them for about 5-7 years and I have
seen a decrease in quality there is NO denying that. It seems the more models they make
and more in production they seem to slip. My 2005, 2006 models are bullet proof. I am very
careful about which watches I buy now
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01-24-2012, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
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Everything successful has a hater
There ya go!
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For the record, there are pretty fair number of Rolex haters around here too......
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01-24-2012, 09:27 AM
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I don,t understand why people hate on invicta all the time.listen if the watch does not work
when you get it send it back nothing perfect.That is why you have a 30 day return
policy.duh! NO company is perfect don,t hate congratulate.
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01-24-2012, 09:30 AM
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Its not so much Invicta that they hate,its this forum.A lot of these clowns were shown the
door here,and they cant seem to get over it.
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Every product has issues. A $80,000 Mercedes can have an issue. It's what works for you, &
Invicta works so well with me that in 2011 nine of my friends now own multiple Invictas. If
you add my friends wives/girlfriends the number becomes 15.
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01-24-2012, 09:30 AM
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Do not know why they do it and really do not care it just shows their lack of knowledge.
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01-24-2012, 09:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skibovr6
The quality is the same on a 50.00 or a 1500.00 Invicta.
Really? I'd sure like for you to show me any $50 watch that compares to:
#1. Reserve Bolt Zeus
#2. Subaqua Specialty
#3. Subaqua Specialty Tourbillon
#4. Reserve Ocean Elite Speedway
#5. Reserve Pro Diver w/Valjoux 7750
Certainly you are entitled to your own opinion, but it ought to at least have some basis in
reality.
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01-24-2012, 09:35 AM
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I got into collecting watches probably 2 years ago, saw Jim and Mike on Shop liked the
design of the watch on the screen. Like everything new if you like it, and you are thinking
about buying it, you research it. You look up the price, you look up details about the product
and you look for reviews. If you do that with Invicta you will find the haters.
The easiest to find of them were so over the top, I simply dismissed them. It struck me as
really odd, people who were smart enough, successful enough, in life and business to afford
and appreciate the high end luxury brands were somehow repeatedly fooled by the origin of
Invicta watches. Maybe I got into collecting later in the process but I always went by the
general rule that if origin of movement really mattered to you buy only the ones labeled
Swiss Made. Swiss Parts seems fairly self explanatory, Swiss I had to look up, but it didn't
look to me that anyone was hiding anything. Maybe I am stereotyping a high end customer
of Luxury timepieces but I can't believe any would behave like that. Just don't see the
market crossing over with teenage kids.
At this point I have 48 watches in my collection most of them Invicta Swiss automatic
chronographs, never had a failure. I have bought 3 on Ebay that had failures to start and
were discounted to reflect it. I had all three fixed for basically nothing. All three 7750's and
each time the jeweler had nothing but glowing things to say about what was inside and the
general construction. Each time he stated that failures such as I brought in were common to
other brands and such.
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01-24-2012, 09:38 AM
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YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD!, I started collecting invictas in march of 2011, i now have 50 of
them, they are nice time pieces, i didnt buy them to tell time with. I simply buy them as you
would buy art. I enjoyn the looks and feel of them why would i spend 3-4000 dollars on a
single watch that doesnt look and feel as good.
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01-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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I have owned Invictas and will tell you why they get bashed. First off they have large quality
problems hands falling off etc. Their resale value is very low. Also their claims of being Swiss
made is questionable at best. Also their oversize hugness makes alot of people see them as
clown watches. Plus not to mention their horid CS.
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hang around long enuff you'll see plenty haters here too lol
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They can say what they want over there at the pond scum. I especially laugh at the put
downs about the rd's. They happen to be my favorite invictas. Today I was asked where I
got my rd by a medvac helicopter crew. They fell in love with it. Perfect for their job. I
showed them the venoms online as well. I challenge any one of those haters to show they
get that kind of attention wearing their 4k watches. Not! Let them continue to swim in their
filthy pond water.
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The web has enabled lots of morons to reach out to people and express biased, corrupted
opinions. While there have been issues, there is nothing I see that cannot be resolved by
being an educated consumer.
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hang around long enuff you'll see plenty haters here too lol
One need only to look at the post right above yours! LOL!
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I have owned Invictas and will tell you why they get bashed. First off they have large
quality problems hands falling off etc. Their resale value is very low. Also their claims of
being Swiss made is questionable at best. Also their oversize hugness makes alot of people
see them as clown watches. Plus not to mention their horid CS.
You didnt try to hack in or disrupt this site did you? LOL
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In the rare instance in which I had to return a watch, I was not very happy about it.
However, VOILA! A new and better model shows up on Shop, and I completely forgot about
the one I returned.
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I always snicker at the oversize watch to "clown" correlation. I wear 50mm+ Invictas
because they match my body frame and I can read the dials but I have never been able to
find an "4X large" clown suit to wear with it. It seems the clown suits are designed to fit
smaller men .
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I always snicker at the oversize watch to "clown" correlation. I wear 50mm+ Invictas
because they match my body frame and I can read the dials but I have never been able to
find an "4X large" clown suit to wear with it. It seems the clown suits are designed to fit
smaller men .
I always laugh at the resale value thing. 99% of the watches made don't retain their value.
It is like driving off in your new car and then "hating" on the car company because you can't
sell your car for as much as you originally paid for it 6 months ago.
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I always snicker at the oversize watch to "clown" correlation. I wear 50mm+ Invictas
because they match my body frame and I can read the dials but I have never been able
to find an "4X large" clown suit to wear with it. It seems the clown suits are designed to fit
smaller men .
yup... That's it for me too!
Smaller watches look dainty on my 8.5 inch wrist.
BTW - I think clowns are awesome!
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Yes. But those problems are documented. The truth lies somewhere between invicta being a
company giving customers watches with the same quality/fit/finish/qc/cs for a fraction of the
price of other brands. And invicta being a company that has hands falling off of every other
model.
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I never got the oversize thing either. Its not just Invicta making large watches and Its not
the only thing Invicta makes. Its obvious they sell and sell well.
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I always laugh at the resale value thing. 99% of the watches made don't retain their value.
It is like driving off in your new car and then "hating" on the car company because you
can't sell your car for as much as you originally paid for it 6 months ago.
Resale??? I thought I was buying them because I like to wear them!!!! LOL
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In the rare instance in which I had to return a watch, I was not very happy about it.
However, VOILA! A new and better model shows up on Shop, and I completely forgot
about the one I returned.
Therein lies a legitimate problem many have with invicta. They would rather them do a
better job making sure each model is completely free from defects before putting out the
next great thing. I think people get carried away with their hate, but I personally would
rather see less models and perhaps better QC.
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Yes. But those problems are documented. The truth lies somewhere between invicta being
a company giving customers watches with the same quality/fit/finish/qc/cs for a fraction of
the price of other brands. And invicta being a company that has hands falling off of every
other model.
Well I have 40 of them and different models and the hands are still on.I guess that theory
might be a bit exaggerated?
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Collecting can go in so many directions...if you can collect high end brands (Rolex,
Audemars, Hublot...etc), more power to you...no shame in that all, and many of us
appreciate that.
But if you only have so much $$$, then you get what you can and enjoy...Take Mr.
Horsetrack on this forum...many brands, styles and pricepoints in his "Look what I got"
posts...and you know what...HE ENJOYS IT!
Don't let anyone else tell you what belongs in your watch box(es). Get what you want and
puts a smile on your face when you wear it.
INVICTA...good designs (I don't see how they copied the SAS or Venom from anyone else),
good quality for the most part (EVERY manufacturer has problems...I woke up one morning
to find my Omega Schumacher with fog on the inside of the crystal. I thought it was curious
since its a wathch box queen and barely gets abused on a daily basis...my point is that
sometimes it's just luck...for me, the only problem I've ever had with INVICTA was a bezel
not lining up perfectly, but then I scrutinized my Omega Seamaster and the bezel was just
the millimeter off as well, so I felt better : ) Lol. But that's just my OCD acting up.
Just have fun with the hobby. Enjoy the comraderie around this forum. Enjoy the watches...I
get more questions wearing Invictas, like the DD Speedway than I do some of my other
"high" end watches like the customary Rolex Submariner EVERYONE should have in their
box...just kidding!!!
Let the flaming begin.
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01-24-2012, 11:02 AM
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I always laugh at the resale value thing. 99% of the watches made don't retain their value.
It is like driving off in your new car and then "hating" on the car company because you
can't sell your car for as much as you originally paid for it 6 months ago.
I agree.
Many years ago I owned Rolex. Two years later I was lucky to get about half of what I paid
for it.
Most watches are not investment items.
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Well I have 40 of them and different models and the hands are still on.I guess that theory
might be a bit exaggerated?
I agree. Thats why I said its not the truth.
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01-24-2012, 11:04 AM
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I agree. Thats why I said its not the truth.
My apologies, I read it too fast. I should have been more careful.
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My apologies, I read it too fast. I should have been more careful.
My apologies as well. I'm trying to get used to this.kindle fire. I read that wrong
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Let those that own and have had a bad experience with Invicta complain and all
others get off the bus.
The expression "TV Brands" gets passed around a lot by the detractors as well. Is
it a tv brand if they are sold in brick and mortar stores as well as on air, on their
websites and other sites? Rhetorical question by the way.
Wouldn't it be a pain in the azz if we spent all day talking (if that's what you want
to call it) about who and/or what we hate? It would take all the time we had away
from being able to address what we really care for. Such a waste of time.
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I have owned Invictas and will tell you why they get bashed. First off they have large
quality problems hands falling off etc. Their resale value is very low. Also their claims of
being Swiss made is questionable at best. Also their oversize hugness makes alot of people
see them as clown watches. Plus not to mention their horid CS.
Gee if all that is true how do you explain their popularity? Why do so many people absolutely
love the brand? Why are so many so loyal? Watches are definately trending up amongst all
the watch companies (except maybe Rolex). And they are a huge company so yes they have
had some growing pains. I read someone online making fun of people collecting multiples of
one model. Why would anyone do such a stupid thing? Well Invicta collectors know why.
Because we really like 'em!
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I don't really go visit other sites, except for one other forum and that was for some
information on a mod I did to my Casio. I try not to even acknowledge this hate stuff at all.
Just ignore as I have no interest in this issue. If you acknowledge something then you give it
substance and irrational hate in any form is a waste of my time!
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01-24-2012, 11:54 AM
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Yes...perfectly put, but Invicta has placed itself in a unique marketing position by blending in
its own unique designs providing as much as they can for the money most of the time where
it would be hard to find comparable value. As I said you shouldn't compare the Invicta
pieces to the metallurgy and finishing used , for example on Brietling or Rolex. I think
Invicta could do it but it would blow their price points up. Its a different philosophy that can
be appreciated, particularly by those of us that want to collect but can't spend college
money.
Who needs college anyway? 01-24-2012, 12:00 PM
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I don't really go visit other sites, except for one other forum and that was for some
information on a mod I did to my Casio. I try not to even acknowledge this hate stuff at all.
Just ignore as I have no interest in this issue. If you acknowledge something then you give
it substance and irrational hate in any form is a waste of my time!
i made the mistake of lurking around another forum i wont name...i call it the dirty pond. lets
leave it at that. not pretty.....i was sorry i had the displeasure of reading their posts. just
below the belt terrible. as i said before, this is my place here. good info and great people!!!
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I have owned Invictas and will tell you why they get bashed. First off they have large
quality problems hands falling off etc. Their resale value is very low. Also their claims of
being Swiss made is questionable at best. Also their oversize hugness makes alot of people
see them as clown watches. Plus not to mention their horid CS.
whatever!!!! i have 40 and hands are still on....nice try though...
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I always laugh at the resale value thing. 99% of the watches made don't retain their value.
It is like driving off in your new car and then "hating" on the car company because you
can't sell your car for as much as you originally paid for it 6 months ago.
If someone is expecting a fair return for money invested then they should invest in
gold and/or silver and pray the market keeps improving.
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If someone is expecting a fair return for money invested then they should invest
in gold and/or silver and pray the market keeps improving.
agreed x100
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01-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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I have owned about 70 Invictas and sold about 50. As a collector they remake too many of
watches and even LE lose their collectible pazazz. Also CS is a huge issu with not fixing
problems or sending them back worse than when I sent them in. There is clearly not the
same customer loyalty as many have brand loyalty to Invicta because they know at their
volume and value, my business is easily replaced.
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01-24-2012, 12:53 PM
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Gee if all that is true how do you explain their popularity? Why do so many people
absolutely love the brand? Why are so many so loyal? Watches are definately trending up
amongst all the watch companies (except maybe Rolex). And they are a huge company so
yes they have had some growing pains. I read someone online making fun of people
collecting multiples of one model. Why would anyone do such a stupid thing? Well Invicta
collectors know why. Because we really like 'em!
Thats fine that you like them I collect myself. Thing is I have seen many people here belittle
others because they question why people need such a big watch. I have been reading the
forums here for a while, but there seems to be a common thread about the quality of
Invicta, just read the CS thread. The thing is I do not understand why people will spend hard
earned money on a watch only to have issues with the movement ie hands etc.
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01-24-2012, 12:57 PM
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I got butthurt at Invicta at one point a while back, but that was before I learned how to play
the game. This site has taught me a lot, and if you hold out for the good deals and resist to
have the latest and greatest RIGHT NOW, you will love your Invictas like I love mine. They
are really nice watches, but they are even better when you get a killer deal on them!
I pretty much stick to Reserve stuff, I seem to fall out of love with the "lesser" Invictas
rather quickly and end up selling them off. My tastes have changed a lot over the years too,
I used to be a SANIII and RD junkie, now the only big watches I wear are a Bolt and my
King GShocks.
Let the haters hate, buy what you like at the price you want and you will be a happy camper.
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01-24-2012, 01:27 PM
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The expression "TV Brands" gets passed around a lot by the detractors as well. Is
it a tv brand if they are sold in brick and mortar stores as well as on air, on their
websites and other sites? Rhetorical question by the way.
what i find funny about the "tv brand" thing is that these ppl go on about how invicta is just
a tv brand but they dont know or realize that shop sells also Rolex, by there theory that
because invicta is sold by a tv company makes it a tv brand i guess rolex would be also,
though without the air time
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01-24-2012, 01:46 PM
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hey look i hae like 13 if they make you happ then buy them, every co has problems some
get rejects . ive only had one problem w a reserve bracelet .
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01-24-2012, 01:52 PM
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I'll bet any Rolex, Tag, etc. watch owner here or anywhere that my Invicta tells the same
time and date that they are told by their Rolex, Tag or etc.. When reaching a certain point in
watch purchasing you're just paying for the name. They need to get over themselves. Yeah
I'll eventually purchase other names, but not because they tell better time or anything, but
because it's just a collectors variety. But all in all Invicta kills the competition. To be
completely honest I wouldn't wear a Rolex if it was given to me, because it's too small and
old styled for me. Id keep it only collection to show off an expensive piece but as far as
utilizing it, you gotta be kidding me. I wore bigger case watches in 5th grade. Toooooo small
for me. I'll stick with 50 mm and up. and for that Invicta does it best! Cheers.
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01-24-2012, 01:53 PM
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All those Invicta heaters in other watch forums were what drove me to WG. I just wanted to
ask a few simple questions about some specific Invicta watches, but on those other forums,
just the mention of the name seemed to ignite a flame war of epic proportions. I still lurk in
other forums, but I don't contribute anything.
Watches to some people are a luxury item. They use them to express their wealth compared
to others and once you get into that mentality, you become arrogant and not someone that I
would care to hang out with. It's the same thing with other things as well. Watches, more
than any one of my other hobbies/interests, has this underlying snobbery associated with it.
Sometimes it's justified and other times its not.
I like Invictas because they are at a price that the masses like me can afford and thus you
don't have that snobbery associated with them. To each his own, but if it makes you feel
better about yourself by bashing others' posessions...you really should step back and take a
look at the bigger picture in life. That's just my opinion though.
Quote:
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Really? I'd sure like for you to show me any $50 watch that compares to:
#1. Reserve Bolt Zeus
#2. Subaqua Specialty
#3. Subaqua Specialty Tourbillon
#4. Reserve Ocean Elite Speedway
#5. Reserve Pro Diver w/Valjoux 7750
Certainly you are entitled to your own opinion, but it ought to at least have some basis in
reality.
My $40 Pro Diver 0590 keeps better time than my $180 (what I paid, but much more
expensive in general) Sea Hunter 0412. Granted there are lots of criteria for quality for the
money spent, but accurate time keeping is one of the highest items on my high quality list.
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01-24-2012, 02:26 PM
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One need only to look at the post right above yours! LOL!
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01-24-2012, 02:32 PM
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Always good and bad thing about any Company..
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01-24-2012, 02:34 PM
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A $50.00 watch comparison should be done with $50.00 watches. The bolt, sas, tourbillon,
speedway and valjoux are not comparable to $50.00 watches becasue they are not selling
for that, they are much higher than that.
My favorite Invicta's are the simple grand and pro divers and the Unitas RD's. The RD's with
the Unitas are much higher than the divers so it would be foolish to compare them to each
other. Comparing a grand or pro diver to the Alpha brand would be a fairer deal. Both are
worth the money put out.
I have a large variety in my collection, some are very nice and some are beaters. I could
care less what someone says about what I buy. Like I don't care what people think of the
brand of bra or underwear I wear.
Every few months there is a new thread about this, a search would do wonders for the
people starting these threads. Nothing is learned. We bash them for bashing Invicta. Yet we
are better? All watch brands have people who don't like them, but their customers don't get
all butt hurt about it. This thread isn't about watches, it's about personalities.
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#116
01-24-2012, 02:42 PM
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There's a lot of folks that bash Rolex, too.
Go figure.
But I'll admit.
Invicta does, on occasion, shoot themselves on the foot.
But hey, it's not like I'm gonna go out and take a hammer to every Invicta I own.
It's just stuff that happens.
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#117
01-24-2012, 02:49 PM
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On the matter of preferring the lower priced Invictas or the more expensive ones, I notice
that after a while I strongly prefer the more expensive ones than the ones I "got a great
deal" on. The more expensive ones have the best movements and cases. Lately, I just save
myself the regret and don't buy the best deals. Quality counts in buying Invicta. As someone
once said (Stanley Marcus, I think), "You'll never regret buying the best." Stay in the NBZ
until you can.
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01-24-2012, 02:57 PM
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Wow...I opened up a whole can of worms here LOL
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01-24-2012, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skibovr6
I have been buying them for about 5-7 years and I have seen a decrease in quality there is
NO denying that.
One could just as correctly state, "Customer A has been buying them for
about 5-7 years and has seen an increase in quality; there is NO denying that" ; or "Customer B has been buying them for about 5-7 years and has
seen a no change in quality; there is NO denying that"
No one can deny what another person perceives. The conclusion being drawn from their observation can be argued, but not the perception since perception
is unique to the individual and does not necessarily reflect reality.
The bottom line is the statement is non sequitur.
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#120
01-24-2012, 04:17 PM
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I look at other brands but Invicta is still king for me. I really like some of the Breitlings but
those prices! Can someone please explain how they can be THAT expensive! Is it 904 steel?
Is it made THAT much better? I need to know! There are many savvy watch folk buying
them...
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#121
01-24-2012, 04:39 PM
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The is the silliest thread, several times a year someone
brings up this topic. Look if you like your Invicta watches that is all that matters, who cares
what other forums say about them. They function like watch should do, they tell you the
time and the look nice. The company make lots of models, and I seem to favor the lower
priced watch, if I am going to spend a grand on a watch, I feel there are other watch I like
better. Just my opinion. But, I am happy with the Invictas I own.
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#122
01-24-2012, 04:44 PM
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I look at other brands but Invicta is still king for me. I really like some of the Breitlings but
those prices! Can someone please explain how they can be THAT expensive! Is it 904
steel? Is it made THAT much better? I need to know! There are many savvy watch folk
buying them...
Watch "how do they do it?" swiss watches episode from breitling HQ and tell me if they're
worth it. I believe they are...
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#123
01-24-2012, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by julius6000
Watch "how do they do it?" swiss watches episode from breitling HQ and tell me if they're
worth it. I believe they are...
Excellent point...look at Jochen Benzinger videos or panerai or V. Constantin, particularly
Glashutte Original regarding construction.....there simply is no way to compare Invicta to
these brands other than some design originality but material content, finishing, engineering
is vastly different and your paying for that.
I value Invicta and view it differently as it is market niched, appealing to a customer base
that either likes its styling and/or dollar value .
To Invictas credit 7750 and 7751 movements can be obtained in very attractive if not
beautiful pieces, (depending on your definition of what you find beautiful) but you should not
convince yourself that its the same as the above brands mentioned. Perhaps Invicta fans
(me included) assertion to this is what annoys other hi-line fans and makes them defensive
and aggressive.
That is , unfortunately , a problem really for them.
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#124
01-24-2012, 06:07 PM
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In general, invicta makes a good product. with all the models and quanity they sell there are
will be some problems and that is understandable. the only issue that is how the problems
are handled, invictas CS does need to be improved. many people would not be able to collect
watches if were not for invicta with there many designs and price points they have.
invicta keep the new models coming, but please improve your CS.
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#125
01-24-2012, 06:21 PM
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I am pretty much just an Invicta watch person, I do own a couple of Renato's, and a couple of others but I
myself love the Invicta design. I don't care what others think, I know I am gettting alot for my money when I
buy an Invicta.
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I HAVE TO ADMIT I JUST KEEP MY CRAP INVICTA,S LYING AROUND ON THE DRESSER!, LOL, JUS KIDDIN. THESE
ARE MY BABIES, NOT A GOOD IDEA TO BASHEM IN MY PRESENSE. IM A PROUD DADDY.
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#127
01-24-2012, 07:01 PM
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I wouldn't really call the all haters.. For sure there are some that hate the brand but this is
probably true with any brand. From what I have read most of the complaints deal with what
alot of people post here, poor customer service, bad quality issues. This is not bashing at all
cause no watch company is perfect and constructive criticism should be respected.
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#128
01-24-2012, 09:15 PM
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I honestly go with what I like and don't care what anyone thinks cause at the end of the day,
you didn't buy the watch for them, you bought it for yourself. Also the quality of the Invicta
watches are top notch and I don't know too many watch companies where you can talk
directly with the CEO from time to time and he actually takes what you have to say into
consideration when building new time pieces.
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#129
01-24-2012, 09:41 PM
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Invicta is an amazing company. Anyone who really knows them knows this. The snobs probably never saw a GD up close. Amazing
value. __________________
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01-24-2012, 09:54 PM
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Nobody comes close to the designs and options that Invicta puts out there at a reasonable
cost. They have no equal in this area really. No reason to hate that; just a reason to buy it
really.
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#131
01-24-2012, 10:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by desert rex
Its not so much Invicta that they hate,its this forum.A lot of these clowns were shown the
door here,and they cant seem to get over it.
Hmmm... Another good point!
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#132
01-24-2012, 10:15 PM
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Some people just have to have something to complain about.
I have about 7 Invictas, 2 Stuhrling's, 1 Rotary, 1 Hamilton, 2 Timex that get regular wrist
time. Hell I paid more for one of the Timex than any of the others. (it has GPS and HRM
capabilities) I haven't paid over $100 for any of my Invicta's - several of which are autos and
one has a genuine alligator strap. I haven't had issues with a single one of them. The
Hamilton is a family heirloom so it didn't cost me anything. Very small (33 mm) and thin.
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01-24-2012, 10:20 PM
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Nobody comes close to the designs and options that Invicta puts out there at a reasonable
cost. They have no equal in this area really. No reason to hate that; just a reason to buy it
really.
Beautiful sig pic
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#134
01-24-2012, 10:26 PM
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I own Rolexs, Breitlings, Tags, Hammys and many more people consider "mid to low end".
I love my Invictas for what they are. Big pieces of art.
Walking down the street, I get more looks and questions about my SAS or Arsenal than I do
when my Submariner or Chronomat are on.
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#135
01-24-2012, 10:43 PM
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there is always going to be haters out there...as far as what you buy..buy what you like and
want its your money....what ever you do..dont get involved in a conversation with one of
them because no matter what you say to them they will say you are not right about what
ever you say to them....their aim is to downgrade or inflame the conversation with you at all
costs..the more upset you get with them the better they feel about it...dont waste your
time...I have around 30 invicta's right now and I love them and I have never had an issue
with any of them...I just took delivery on the latest tungsten and ceramic PD..I got the now
sold out blue version and I love it....as far as the haters..dont waste your breath with them
engaging in conversation with them..its a total waste of your time...
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#136
01-25-2012, 05:48 AM
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"turd burgler"!!! love that moniker Ron. I thought I only called my dog that, lol. I, at times,
have commented on my own "invicta" problems, but none have amounted to much more
than finish issues (plating flaking off). then I have had an issue with my DB swiss ETA GMT.
had to send it to a watch maker on my own dime (purchased it from another geek here..)
when the day wheel gears malfunctioned after I had it for a few months. crap happens to all
brands. like the posts above say: "I buy what I like". Invicta makes great timepieces and
their designs are among the best in the world, IMHO. I just don't like busy dials and large,
oversized pieces. no harm, no foul...there are many who will take up my slack and pruchase
those pieces. and I do love this forum...I go nowhere else for my daily fix...
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#137
01-25-2012, 06:21 AM
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Invicta ia the watch company with the most complications built into any of there watch cases
Bar None.
Any company can buy a movement and put it into a boring same old style 3 piece watch
case weather it be a diver or sport model. They build watch watches with cases and bracelets
that have attitude Invicta comes thru. CHEAPER then anyone.
I rather buy seven then one...
Ever see some of the bracelets that come with high end watches.
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01-25-2012, 06:34 AM
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the whole point of the thread was about the bashers at different forums. i think anyone
belonging to this forum has the right to vent and post their concerns. my issue is the other
forums that have members that were booted from here because of their cross the line posts.
so they go to another forum and spread hate and bash. they can stay there!!!!
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01-25-2012, 07:01 AM
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I know one site was created strictly because a guy got butthurt because he got banned from
here, so now he makes stories up just to make IWG and those who support them look bad.
Poor fishy.
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01-25-2012, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RipitRon
I am pretty sure most of them are bitter for one reason or another, my best guess is that
they have a nagging old Haggler at home and they have no ability to be a man at home or
work. So what happens is they get to feel like a man by typing this crap on a keyboard. I
can think of one such Turd Burglar and his name references a Smelly/Fugly CARP!
Funny stuff Ron!!!
I think some of them have nothing in their lives better to do than to
despise others who don't think the same way they do. If you read their
whole site...these people not only hate and despise you for buying an
Invicta....they also hate you if you don't drive the same car, buy the same
clothing, live in the same town...the list is long what they don't like. I find
it sad...because the one thing they really do hate is themselves. They live
miserable lives...and have nothing positive in their life's. You'll find that
most of these people don't even like the other people on their "hater"
site....So why waste your time.
People that have to make fun of others to make themselves feel good
about their own life, lead a miserable, self loathing life.
I have sold one of my wife's friends on Invicta because of the quality of
Invicta's bracelet. We were eating at a Japanese Restaurant and he saw
my PD Scuba and want to see it. He was amazed by the heft and feel of
the watch....and took off his 1990's Rolex to try it on. When he handed me
his Rolex...I was very surprised by the cheap feeling the Rolex bracelet
had...light weight....and felt like a $10 bracelet you could get at Walmart.
Now...I use to have a Rolex...an all SS 1985 Exp II ...and although the
bracelet wasn't as hefty as my Scuba...it still had some weight to it. He
now has about dozen Invicta's...all Pro Divers or Grand Divers...and when
he comes to town, he always makes a point of showing me his newest
Invicta...and he says he wife doesn't even mention it when he buys a new
Invicta...because he isn't spending $8-10 grand on the watch.
Oh yeah...for what it's worth....my Rolex spent more time in the shop than
it ever did on my wrist. I spent 2 or 3 times what the watch was worth on
repairs because the automatic movement wouldn't run for more than a few
months at a time before it would stop working properly. Finally...I got
tired of spending money on it, and it sat in its box for 7 years...until the
thieves that ransacked our townhouse after Katrina decided they wanted
it...!!! Do I bash Rolex because I had a bad experience...no...just got a
lemon....it happens. __________________
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01-25-2012, 08:33 AM
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it's so sad how angry some of those people are, WOW
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#142
01-25-2012, 09:13 AM
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They're just watches (all brands), there's a lot more in life to get upset about. I have a lot of
Invictas, also Breitling, Tag, Raymond-Weil, Movado, etc. They all get time in the rotation. I
will say that the quality and finish on some of the Invicta's is right up there. My SAS mid-size
is stunning. Where Invicta does fall down is in customer service and initial quality sometimes
IMO. BUT when you're getting watches with Swiss automatic movements and the intricate
case designs that Invicta uses for offten 20% of the price of the luxury brands you really
can't complain. If you get a lemon ship it back.
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01-25-2012, 09:56 AM
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Interesting perspective
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishface5
YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD!, I started collecting invictas in march of 2011, i now have 50 of
them, they are nice time pieces, i didnt buy them to tell time with. I simply buy them as
you would buy art. I enjoyn the looks and feel of them why would i spend 3-4000 dollars
on a single watch that doesnt look and feel as good.
I fall into that category myself. Invicta watches have great visuals. Instead of owning a
forged Monet I would rather own an original impressionist piece from a less revered
artist.You’re not going to buy a Lexus for the price of a Sentra. Invicta has some nice
Altimas, metaphorically. Invictas problems have been discussed Ad nauseam. Keep in mind
many people have 100+ Invictas and have not had one problem. I have 21 now and no
issues. Put it on your personal balance beam...on one hand the pros, on the other the cons.
Too many negs for you, dont buy. Pros out weigh the negs, buy. Its not complicated.
Cheers Juice
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#144
01-25-2012, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bichondaddy1057
Oh yeah...for what it's worth....my Rolex spent more time in the shop than it ever did on my wrist. I spend 2 or 3 times what the watch was worth on repairs because the automatic movement wouldn't run for more than a few months at a time before it would stop working properly.
I had the same issues with the Rolex Date-Just that I had. It was beautiful, but spent so
much time in Switzerland that I should have brought cheese with it when it was "home" with
me.
My first Invicta automatic looks so much nicer than the Rolex and has kept perfect time for
over three years now.
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01-25-2012, 11:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise
I own Rolexs, Breitlings, Tags, Hammys and many more people consider "mid to low end".
I love my Invictas for what they are. Big pieces of art.
Walking down the street, I get more looks and questions about my SAS or Arsenal than I
do when my Submariner or Chronomat are on.
Kevin, I too, get more compliments wearing my
Invicta watches than my two-tone Submariner or my
Cartier tank! For what you are getting, you just can't
beat it.
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#146
01-25-2012, 11:53 AM
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I really don't understand the haters, I think it is just ignorance and follow the sheep
syndrome. I have about 100 watches...Omega, Rolex, Breitling, GP, Longines, Hamilton, Ebel
and many many more. I love time...watches and clocks both. I enjoy my Invictas, I have 3
and will purchase more when I see another I like.
I feel that most of the so called haters probably never owned or even held an invicta so their
comments are unfounded, they just see their buddies trashing the brand and follow along. I
have followed threads on the other forums and every now and then you come across an
honest old timer that says yea I have or had one and they were pretty good.
I tell folks wear what you like and don't worry about what others think.
But you know, I do really get tired of hearing the same ole thing. One of the main reasons I
came to this forum.
The only questions I do have for the Invicta group is why, knowing what the relatively small
problems are, why don't they fix them?
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01-25-2012, 12:12 PM
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isnt the love of the watch for the wearer to decide not the label? I have some awesome
looking 2 dollar watches for example this one here i love it ...how much did u ask? a buck
and a quater....
it aint a rolex but its sure does feel good
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#148
01-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [email protected]
I always snicker at the oversize watch to "clown" correlation. I wear 50mm+ Invictas
because they match my body frame and I can read the dials but I have never been able to
find an "4X large" clown suit to wear with it. It seems the clown suits are designed to fit
smaller men .
LOL!
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#149
01-25-2012, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DiveMaster
I fall into that category myself. Invicta watches have great visuals. Instead of owning a
forged Monet I would rather own an original impressionist piece from a less revered
artist.You’re not going to buy a Lexus for the price of a Sentra. Invicta has some nice
Altimas, metaphorically. Invictas problems have been discussed Ad nauseam. Keep in mind
many people have 100+ Invictas and have not had one problem. I have 21 now and no
issues. Put it on your personal balance beam...on one hand the pros, on the other the
cons. Too many negs for you, dont buy. Pros out weigh the negs, buy. Its not complicated.
Cheers Juice
Not quite following your metaphor. Are you equating a fine Swiss watch from a traditional
luxury manufacturer, say Patek, JLC or even Rolex, with a forged Monet? Wouldn't they be
genuine Monets?
So the difference between an original, genuine Monet and a lesser known artist isn't really a
question of authenticity, but merely the difference between the price of the work of a world
renowned master and a lesser one. Both are equally original - one simply sells for 1000
times the price of the other.
Personally, I'd love to have the original Le Pont d'Argenteuil hanging in the bedroom. It's
very pretty.
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#150
01-25-2012, 01:14 PM
jwin66 True WatchGeek
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You know the other anti forum is having a field day with this
whole thread...probably has the whole thread transplanted over
there for their own personal amusement....In the end I buy
what I like and could care less what the whole world thinks of
it...Invicta has been lambasted more than any other watch
company that I can think of but its still standing isn't it..I guess
all of that bashing isn't doing the other side any good...If I
hated a car company, lets say fiat for instance, and was
railroaded by them for whatever reason, I wouldn't spend my
days and nights telling the cyber communtiy what a horrible
company they were I would simply buy from someone else and
never look back...granted some of the gripes with Invicta are
legit, some are not...I have been collecting Invicta's for 3 years
running with only a hand full of minor issues...I'm still very
satisfied with the value I obtain from every watch I buy from
them and will continue to patronize them for a long time to
come..
Jon
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Originally Posted by Hotspur
Not quite following your metaphor. Are you equating a fine Swiss watch from a traditional
luxury manufacturer, say Patek, JLC or even Rolex, with a forged Monet? Wouldn't they be
genuine Monets?
So the difference between an original, genuine Monet and a lesser known artist isn't really
a question of authenticity, but merely the difference between the price of the work of a
world renowned master and a lesser one. Both are equally original - one simply sells for
1000 times the price of the other.
Personally, I'd love to have the original Le Pont d'Argenteuil hanging in the bedroom. It's
very pretty.
Id rather have a $500 Invicta then a $500 dollar fake Omega,Rolex,etc
Cheers Juice
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#152
01-25-2012, 03:20 PM
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Id rather have a $500 Invicta then a $500 dollar fake Omega,Rolex,etc
Cheers Juice
Got it. Thanks for clarifying.
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#153
01-25-2012, 04:11 PM
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I love to ask opinions, but I don't like negative threads. Some people just don't have
anything good to say for whatever reason.
They can pound sand.......
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#154
01-25-2012, 04:25 PM
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isnt the love of the watch for the wearer to decide not the label? I have some awesome
looking 2 dollar watches for example this one here i love it ...how much did u ask? a buck
and a quater....
it aint a rolex but its sure does feel good
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#155
01-25-2012, 06:46 PM
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Hate to see bashing in the watch community. I now post only on this site as i find it to be a
very enjoyable like minded community. I've been collecting for years and own many
different brands, R's B's, whatever. I have 67 Invictas and find they are my everyday
watches.....really enjoy the cutting edge designs!!!!!!!!!!
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#156
01-29-2012, 07:09 AM
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Fyi the sea hunter strap that you say is photo shopped was posted on WG as well. It was an
actual defect and if you did some home work before jumping to conclusions that would help.
As far as IWG bashing goes you will always have some that feel this way I for one wouldn't
have a collection if it wasn't for Invictas prices and styles and a salesman named Jim
Skelton!
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#157
01-29-2012, 07:23 AM
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I think some people just like to ***** if they have someone to listen. I am 66 years old and
that has been my experience.
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#158
01-29-2012, 10:31 AM
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Good movements, good quality, good design, good price. Isn't that all that matters?
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#159
01-29-2012, 10:35 AM
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Like everything there's good and bad. I have few in collection and am pleased with them
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#160
01-29-2012, 10:51 AM
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This is the only forum I've ever been a member of, but the curious side of me wondered
what all of the commotion is about and I searched some of those "other" watch sites... all I
found was Invicta and Shop bashing! Not one mention of what the members on those sites
liked/disliked about THEIR watches, just discussing (to great extent) how bad Invicta and
Shop are!!! That's unreal if you ask me. That would be like me putting down someone's
choice of, oh, I don't know... hot sauce! "How can you like so-and-so's hot sauce? They're
terrible! I've never tried theirs, but my hot sauce is the best because I paid more for it!"
Strange analogy, but I hope I get the point across. With that said, I own over 10 different
brands of watches, from $40 to $2500, and I keep coming back to Invicta!
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#161
01-29-2012, 11:01 AM
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I am on many watch sites, including Koi's whine-a-thon.
The fact of the matter is this:
Enjoy what you like. There will always be people who are bent out of shape about the same
thing you enjoy.
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#162
01-29-2012, 11:15 AM
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Well what can ya do...................................
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#163
01-29-2012, 11:16 AM
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Fyi the sea hunter strap that you say is photo shopped was posted on WG as well. It was
an actual defect and if you did some home work before jumping to conclusions that would
help. As far as IWG bashing goes you will always have some that feel this way I for one
wouldn't have a collection if it wasn't for Invictas prices and styles and a salesman named
Jim Skelton!
I thought the SH with out holes was an acutal problem, but didnt know if I missed
something........
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#164
01-31-2012, 08:31 PM
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Hey Rob. Good job! You got everybody out of winter hibernation!
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#165
01-31-2012, 10:29 PM
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Hey Rob. Good job! You got everybody out of winter hibernation!
If he had done a search he would have seen that this has been discussed, in length, before.
Again and again and again and that there was no need for this thread. There will always be
someone wanting to fit in more by jumping on the dead horse. Let's rally the troops so they
will like me more threads. Search is your friend.