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Discounting

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Introduction

• Each time we meet a problem,

We have two options.

• We can use the full power of

our grown up thinking, feeling

and action to solve the

problem or We can go to into

the script.

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Introduction• If we do move into the script, we

begin to perceive the world so that it

seems to fit the decisions we made as

an infant.

• We are likely to blank out our

awareness of some aspect of the real

situation.

• At the same time, We may blow up

other aspects of the here and now

problem into giant proportions.

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Introduction• Instead of taking action to solve

the problem, we rely on the

magical solution which our script

offers.

• We hope in Child that by working

this magic, we can manipulate the

world into providing a solution to

us.

• Instead of being active, we become

passive.

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Definition

• Discounting is defined as

unawarely ignoring

information relevant to

the solution to the

problem.

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Example• Imagine you are sitting in a

crowded restaurant and you need a glass of water.

• You tried to catch the eye of the waiter several times but failed.

• At this time, you go into script. You replay the time when your mother was unresponsive.

• You become hopeless and say to yourself in your head “ It’s no good. No matter how much I try, He is not going to come.”

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Example• To get to this conclusion, you have

had to ignore some information about here and now reality.

• You have discounted several options you have as a grown up. Options you did not have as a baby.

• You could have stood up, walked over the waiter and shouted in his ears or

• You could have gone to the nearest table where there was a water jug, asked for it and poured yourself a drink.

• Had you acted these ways, you would have been active in problem solving instead of passive.

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Example• In the same situation, your friend may

get angry and snorts “ That fellow is

obviously incompetent. If I had my way, I

did see him fired!”.

• He has also gone to script. But as a child,

he decided upon the life position as

I+U-, rather than being I-U+.

• Now, he sees waiter through his own

spectacles. He discounts the waiter’s

competence to respond to the call.

• He is also being passive. His action is not

helping him get a glass of water.

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Grandiosity• Every discount is accompanied by

grandiosity. This is an exaggeration of

some feature of reality. The

expression making a mountain out of

a molehill aptly describes

grandiosity.

• One feature of the situation is

blotted out or diminished through

discounting , so another feature is

blown up out of proportion by

grandiosity.

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Grandiosity• When you sat in the restaurant

feeling hopeless because the waiter wasn’t bringing the glass of water, you were not only discounting your own options, but were also crediting the waiter with the power he didn’t have, the power to determine whether or not you got any water.

• Your friend discounted waiters competence and grandiose about himself. He was taking on himself the role of a judge and jury, when he had neither adequate evidence nor responsibility to do so.

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Activity• Think back to a recent situation in

which the outcome was unsatisfactory for you. That situation represents a problem which you didn’t solve.

• Looking back again, do you now identify a feature or features of reality that you were discounting?

• Could you have acted in different ways that you didn’t think of at the time?

• Were you ignoring somebody else’s ability to act in a particular way.

• Were there resources in the situation that were available but which you didn’t think of using?

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Activity• Do you identify where you were

being grandiose?• What features of yourself, others or

situation were you blowing up out of proportion?

• If you are working in a group or if you have a friend who is willing to help you, get a second opinion on your answers.

• It is often easier for us to spot other people’s discounting and grandiosity than to spot our own.

• Whether or not you have got immediate answers to these questions, keep your problem situation in mind.

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Passive behaviors• When I discount, I do so by making

statement to myself in my own

head.

• Thus a discount itself is not

observable.

• Since you can’t thought read, you

have no way of knowing I am

discounting unless I speak or act in

some way which indicates the

presence of the discount.

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Passive behaviors• There are four types of behavior

which always indicate that the

person concerned is

discounting. They are

• Doing nothing.

• Over adaptation.

• Agitation.

• Incapacitation or violence.

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Doing nothing• The members of a TA group are

sitting in a circle.• The group leader says : “ Let’s

go round the group and each person say what he or she appreciates or resents about today’s session. If you don’t want to take part, it’s OK to say “Pass”.

• The exercise begins. People round the group each give an appreciation or resentment. One or two say “Pass”.

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Doing nothing• Then came Norman’s turn. There is a silence. People

waited for Norman to say something but he doesn’t.• He sits unmoving and silent, staring into space. Since he

doesn’t seem to want to speak any appreciation or resentment, the person next to him waits for him to say “Pass”.

• But Norman doesn’t do that either. He continues to sit as if dumb.

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Doing nothing• Norman is showing the passive

behavior called doing nothing.• Instead of using energy to take

problem solving action, he is using into to stop himself from acting.

• A person exhibiting this passive behavior feels uncomfortable and experiences himself as not thinking.

• He is discounting his own ability to do anything about the situation.

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Over adaptation• Amy comes into the house after a

hard day’s work. Her husband Brian is sitting reading a newspaper.

• Looking beyond him into the kitchen, Amy sees a huge pile of unwashed dishes besides the sink.

• “Hi”, says Brian, “Hope you’ve had a good day. Just about time for tea, isn’t it?”.

• Taking her coat off, Amy goes straight through to the kitchen. She washes the pile of dishes and gets down to making tea.

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Over adaptation• Neither Brian nor Amy noticed

that he has not asked here to

wash the dishes and make tea.

• Nor has she asked him if he wants

her to.

• Still less has she paused to think

whether she herself wants to

wash the dishes or whether it

might be more appropriate if

Brian Washed them.

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Over adaptation• Amy’s passive behavior is over

adaptation. • When someone overadapts, she is

complying with what she believes in Child are the wishes of others.

• She does so without checking with them what their wishes are in reality, and without any reference to what her own wishes are.

• The person in overadapation, unlike the person in doing nothing, experiences herself as thinking during the passive behavior.

• He thinking actually proceeds from a contamination

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Over adaptation• Someone is overadaptation will

often be experienced by others as helpful, adaptable or accommodating.

• Thus overadaptation is frequently stroked by those to whom the person relates.

• Because of this social acceptability and because the person appears to be thinking, overadaptation is the most difficult to detect of the four passive behavior.

• The person in overadaptation is discounting her ability to act on her own options. Instead, she follows options she believes others want.

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Agitation• The class of students is listening to

the lecturer. At the back of the room sits Adam.

• The lecturer is speaking rather quietly and Adam has difficulty in hearing him.

• As the lecture period goes on, Adam has more and more trouble following what lecturer is talking about.

• He puts down his pen and starts drumming his fingers on the desk. He is waggling his foot rapidly up and own in time of his finger drumming.

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Agitation• Adam is showing agitation.• In this passive behavior, the

person is discounting his ability to act to solve the problem.

• He feels acutely uncomfortable, and engages in purposeless, repetitive activity in an attempt to relieve the discomfort.

• Energy is directed into the agitated activity instead of into action to solve the problem.

• During agitation, the person does not experience himself as thinking.

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Agitation• If Adam were using his clear Adult, he

could simply attract the lecturer’s

attention and ask him to speak up.

• As it is, his finger drumming and food

waggling do nothing towards solving

his problem.

• Many common habits entail

aggression. Nail biting, smoking, hair

twiddling and compulsive eating are

all examples.

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Incapacitation and violence• Betty is in her late thirties.

The younger of two daughters, she still lives at home with her aged mother, whom she looks after. The old woman, despite her age, is really in pretty and sound health.

• Out of the blue, Betty meets a man and they fall in love. Happily, she announces to her mother that she intends to move out to live with him and perhaps get married.

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Incapacitation and violence• A couple of days later, the

mother begins having dizzy spells

and has to take to her bed.

• The doctor can find nothing

physically wrong with her. But

Betty begins to feel guilty about

her intention to move out.

• Mother’s passive behavior is

incapacitation.

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Incapacitation and violence• Here, the person disables

herself in some way. • Discounting her own ability

to solve a problem, she hopes in Child that by incapacitating herself she can get someone else to solve it.

• Incapacitation can sometimes be in the form of psychosomatic ailments, as here. Alternatively, it can be achieved by mental breakdown or by abuse of drugs or alcohol.

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Incapacitation and violence• Robert has just had a furious

row with his girlfriend.

• He storms out of the house

and walks the streets for a

long while.

• He goes down town, has a

few beers.

• Then he picks up a chair and

smashes all the plate – glass

windows in the bar.

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Incapacitation and violence• Robert’s passive behavior

is violence. • It may seem strange to

refer to violence as passive behavior.

• But it is passive because it is not directed at solving the problem in hand.

• When Robert smashes the window, he does nothing to resolve his differences with is girlfriend.

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Incapacitation and violence• Incapacitation can be

viewed as violence directed inwards.

• In both incapacitation and violence, the person is discounting his ability to solve a problem.

• He releases a burst of energy, directed to self or others, in a desperate attempt to force the environment to solve the problem for him.

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Incapacitation and violence

• Incapacitation or violence will

often follow a period of

agitation.

• When the person is agitating,

he is building up energy which

he may then discharge

destructively by either

incapacitating or getting

violent.

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Activity• Review the problem situation you

considered in the last activity.• Do you identify which of the

passive behaviors you engaged in?• Now re-run the situation in your

mind’s eye. When you come to the moment where you began the passive behavior, imagine yourself instead staying in Adult and using the full power of your grown up thinking, feeling or behaving to solve the problem.

• How do you then act differently?

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Discounting and ego states

• Discounting can be related to

ego state pathology.

• Discounting may indicate the

presence of contamination.

• That is to say : When I am

discounting, I may be mis –

perceiving reality to fit Parent or

Child script beliefs, which I

mistake for Adult thinking.

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Discounting and ego states• Exclusion may be another

source of discounting.

• Here, I am ignoring aspects of

reality because I am blanking

out one or more of my ego

states.

• Excluding Adult is the most

disabling of the three

exclusions in terms of person’s

intensity of discounting.

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Discounting and ego states

• Often, discounting can

occur without any ego

state pathology.

• In these cases, it is simply

the result of the person’s

Adult being uninformed or

misinformed.

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Discounting and ego states• In terms of the functional

model of ego states, discounting can be straightforwardly expressed.

• Whenever I am coming from any negative ego state part, I am discounting.

• When I stop myself solving a problem, I necessarily have been discounting.

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Detecting discounts

• The discounting, not

observable in itself, can be

inferred by the person’s

showing any of the four

passive behavior.

• There are many other ways

of detecting discounts.

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Detecting discounts

• Driver behavior always

indicates a discount.

• Remember that when I show a

driver, I am internally replaying

the script belief : “ I am only OK

if I try hard / please others etc.

• The reality is that I am OK

whether or not I follow these

driver messages.

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Detecting discounts

• Schiff specify certain thinking

disorders as clues to

discounting.

• One of these is over detailing.

• Asked a simple question , the

person showing this disorder

will reply with a long tirade of

minute details.

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Detecting discounts

• Over generalization is the opposite of

over detailing in which the person

expresses ideas only in sweeping,

global terms.

• Ex : “Well, my problem is something

huge. People are after me. Things are

getting me down”.

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Verbal Clues• One of the skills of TA is to

identify discounting by listening to the words people use.

• The difficulty in practice is that everyday speech is full of discounts, so much so that we become desensitized to them.

• We need to re learn the skill of listening to what is really being said and testing each statement against reality.

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Verbal Clues• When someone says “ I

can’t..”, he will most often be discounting.

• “I will try to…” is usually a discount, since what it implies is usually “ I will try to, but I won’t do it”.

• The same is true will all driver wordings. Be strong discounts are particularly common. Ex: “What you say is boring to me.”

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Verbal Clues• Sometimes, a discount is

signaled by leaving out a part of the sentence.

• For instance, a member of the TA group may ask “I want a hug”.

• She doesn’t say from whom she wants hug from.

• She is omitting information relevant to the solution of the problem.

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Non verbal Clues• Equally important is the skill

of identifying discounts from non verbal clues.

• Here, the discount is signaled by a mismatch between the words being said and the non verbal signals that go with them.

• This mismatching is called incongruity.

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Non verbal Clues• For example, teacher asks his

pupil : “Do you understand the assignment I have set you?”.

• The pupil replies : “Sure”. • But at the same time, he

puckers his brow and scratches his head.

• If teacher is aware about the thinking martian, he will ask more questions to check whether his pupil is discounting.

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Gallows• One frequent indication of a

discount is gallows laughing. • Here, the person laughs when

making a statement about something unpleasant.

• Ex: “That was silly of me, ha ha”.

• In gallows, there is incongruity between the laugh and the painful content.

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Gallows• When someone gives a gallows

laugh, he is making a non verbal invitation to the listener to reinforce once of his script belief.

• The straight response to gallows is to refuse to join in the laughing.

• You may also say : “That is not funny”, if you are in a situation where it is socially appropriate to do so.

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Stroke Filter / Discount

• When someone gets a stroke that doesn’t fit in with her preferred stroke quotient, she is likely to ignore it or belittle it.

• Discounts are an internal mechanism by which people minimize or maximize (grandiosity) an aspect of reality, themselves or others.

• In other words they are not accounting for the reality of themselves or others or the situation.

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Activity

• Think about the strokes you gave and received.

• Was it counterfeit, marshmallows, straight?

• Who received it openly, who discounted it?

• Which strokes you received and which one you discounted?

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Strokes Vs Discounts

• A discount always entails some distortion of reality unlike a straight negative

stroke.

• NCS – You spelled the word wrong.

• Discount – I see you can’t spell

• NUCS – I hate you.

• Discount – You are hateful.

• Unlike a straight negative stroke, a discount gives me no signal on which I

can base constructive action.

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Discount Matrix

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Discount Matrix

• Discounting results in

unresolved problems.

• Thus, if we can devise a

systematic way of identifying

the nature and intensity of

discounting, we will have a

powerful tool for problem

solving.

• Such a tool is called discount

matrix.

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Discount Matrix

• Discount matrix was developed

by Ken Mellor and Eric Sigmund.

• The discount matrix starts from

the idea that we classify

discounts according to three

different criteria.

• Area.

• Type.

• Level.

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Areas of discounting

• There are three areas in

which people can discount:

• Self.

• Others.

• Situation.

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Areas of discounting

• In the example, When I was sitting in the restaurant dropping because the waiter wasn’t bringing my glass of water, I was discounting myself.

• I was ignoring my own ability to take action to get what I wanted.

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Areas of discounting

• My friend who got angry and started criticizing the waiter, was discounting not himself but the other person.

• In judging the waiter incompetent, hew was blanking out any aspects of the waiter’s actions that might have contradicted his criticism.

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Areas of discounting

• Suppose that after drooping for a while, I did turned to my friend and said: “ Well, there we are. It really isn’t fair that these other people are getting served and I am not. But then, this world is an unfair place, isn’t it?”

• Here, I did have been discounting the situation.

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Types of discounting

• The three types of

discounting are of:

• Stimuli.

• Problems.

• Options.

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Discounting - Stimulus

• To discount a stimulus is

to blank out perception

that something is

happening at all.

• As I sat in the restaurant, I

might simply not have

allowed myself to feel

that I was thirsty.

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Discounting - Stimulus

• I would have been discounting the stimulus of my own thirst.

• Maybe my friend, in calling the waiter incompetent, had not seen the way in which the waiter had actually succeeded in serving many other customers, even though the evidence was right there in front of him.

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Discounting - Problem

• The person who discounts a problem realizes that something is happening, but ignores the fact that whatever is happening poses a problem.

• Feeling thirsty there in the restaurant, I might have said to my friend, “ I feel very thirsty right now, but, oh well, it doesn’t matter.”

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Discounting - Options

• When discounting options, the person is aware that something is happening and that it constitutes a problem.

• But she blanks out the possibility that anything can be done about the problem.

• That is where I was discounting in the original version of the restaurant scene.

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Discounting - Options

• As I sat drooping, I knew that I felt thirsty.

• I was aware that my thirst was a problem to me.

• But I was unawarely ignoring the many options I had, other than just sitting and hoping the waiter to respond.

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Levels of discounting

• The four levels of

discounting are:

• Existence.

• Significance.

• Change

possibilities.

• Personal abilities

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Discounting- Existence• In the example, I was

discounting the existence of my own options to solve the problem.

• I didn’t even consider the possibility of, for example, walking over and speaking to the waiter instead of gesturing to him.

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Discounting- Significance• If I had been discounting the

significance of my options, I might have said to my friend: “ I suppose I could go over and ask him.

• But I bet asking him wouldn’t make a difference.

• Here, I did have realized there was something different I could do, but blanked out the possibility that his action could have any effect.

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Discounting- Change possibilities

Discounting my options at

the level of change

possibilities, I might have

said: “ Of course, I could

walk across and collar the

fellow. But people just

don’t do that in

restaurants”.

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Discounting- Change possibilities

In this case, I would have

let myself realize that the

option existed and that it

might have results, while

ignoring the possibility that

anyone could actually put

the option into practice.

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Discounting- Personal Abilities

• Here I am aware the options exists and could bring results.

• I realize that some people in the world might well use that option.

• But I dismiss my own ability to do so.

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Discounting Matrix

• Discounting matrix is

compiled by listing all the

possible combinations of

types and levels of discount.

• When we do so, we will get

the discounting matrix

diagram.

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Discounting Matrix

• Discounting matrix has three columns for the three types of discount and four rows for the four modes or levels.

• The wordings in each of the resulting twelve boxes indicates the combination of type and level.

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Discounting Matrix - Example• Suppose two friends are talking.

One of them is a heavy smoker. • As he lights up yet another

cigarette, he is convulsed by a bout of coughing.

• His friend says to him : “ That’s is a terrible cough. I am concerned about you. Please give up smoking.”

• What might be the smokers reply if he were discounting in each of the twelve different boxes on the matrix?

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Discounting existence of stimuli

If the smoker were

discounting the

existence of the stimuli,

he might reply: “What

cough? I was not

coughing?”

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Discounting existence of problem

If the smoker were

discounting the existence of

the problem, he might say: “

Oh, no, I am fine, thanks. I

have always had a cough. He

is letting himself be aware of

his cough, but blotting out

the possibility that this may

constitute a problem to him.

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Discounting significance of stimuli

• In discounting the existence of the problem, he is also discounting the significance of the stimulus.

• In discounting the possibility that his cough may be a problem, he is also discounting the fact that the cough may have some meaning (Significance) for him.

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Diagonal arrows

• This is indicated on the

matrix diagram by the

diagonal arrow connecting

the boxes for “existence of

problems” and “Significance

of stimuli”.

• The arrow means that one

of these discounts will

always entail the other.

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Diagonal Arrows and T numbers

• All the diagonal arrows on the diagram has this meaning.

• The “T” numbers, entered at the top left of each box, are labels for the different diagonals.

• For instance, discounts of the existence of the problem and the significance of the stimuli corresponds to diagonal T2.

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Discounting existence of options

When we take T3, smoker

is discounting the existence

of options. He might show

this by replying “ Well, yes,

but we smokers do cough,

you know?. A short lie and

a happy one, that what I

say, ha, ha.”

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Discounting existence of options

Now he is admitting that he

has a cough and that the

cough may well indicate a

problem, namely that

smoking can kill people.

But he is blanking out the

possibility that anyone can

do anything to avoid

smoker’s cough.

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Discounting significance of the problem

In doing so, he also blanks

out any perception that the

possibility of being killed by

smoking is something he

might be concerned about.

He discounts the

significance of the problem.

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Discounting changeability of stimulus

And by his denial that

anything can possibly be

done by anyone to get rid

of a smoker’s cough, he

discounts the changeability

of the stimulus.

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Discounting significance of options

• The same equivalence of

discounts applies along the

other diagonals.

• On T4, the smoker might say:

“Well, yes, I suppose I should

give up really. But I have been

smoking for so long, I don’t

think my giving up now is

going to make any difference.

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Discounting viability of options and person’s ability to act on options

• On T5, he might respond: “ Sure, you are right. I need to give up, But I can’t figure out how to do it.

• And on T6, the smoker might say: “Yes, I have been telling myself for ages I should throw my cigarettes and lighter away. But I just cant seem to get round to it.”

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Discounting matrix

Another feature of this matrix is that a discounting in any box also entails discounts in

the boxes below and to its right.

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Discounting - Sequence

Suppose a person is

discounting the existence of a

problem. Since he is not

allowing himself to be aware

that the problem even exists,

he is obviously also going to

blank out any perception that

the problem may be

significant.

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Discounting - Sequence• Nor will he be thinking whether

he or anyone else can solve the problem. He is thus discounting in the entire column of boxes related to problems.

• And since he is ignoring the existence of the problem, why should he consider whether there are options for solving it?

• Because he thus discounts the existence of options, he will also discount all the other boxes in the options column.

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Discounting - Sequence

• Finally, recall that a discount

of the existence of problem is

equivalent to discounting the

significance of stimuli, along

diagonal T2.

• Therefore, the other two

boxes below it in the stimuli

column will be discounted

also.

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Discounting matrix

A person discounting on any diagonal will be discounting in all the boxes below and to the

right of that diagonal.

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Activity

• Make up the discount matrix for this example.

• Wife and husband have just settled down in bed for the night.

• Then, in the next room, their baby starts crying.

• The husband says “Do you think one of use should go and see why the baby is crying?”

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Levels of Discounting

• The EXISTENCE of a problem, e.g. a baby cries and the parents go to sleep.

• The SIGNIFICANCE of a problem “Oh the baby always cries at this time”.

• The CHANGE POSSIBILITIES “The baby will never be satisfied”.

• The PERSONAL ABILITY to actually carry out the change “You could but I

can’t change the nappy”.

At each level the discount can be of three types:

• The STIMULUS can be discounted.

• The PROBLEM can be discounted.

• The OPTIONS can be discounted.

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Activity

• Work out the responses

his wife might give if she

were discounting on

each of the diagonals in

the discounting matrix.

• Confirm that the

“hierarchy of discounts”

applies.

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Using the Discount Matrix

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Using the Discount Matrix• Whenever a problem is not

being solved, some information relevant to the solution of that problem is being ignored.

• The discount matrix gives us a systematic way to pinpointing what information is being missed.

• This in turn provides guidance to the specific actions we need to take to solve the problem.

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Using the Discount Matrix

When a problem

remains unsolved

despite efforts to solve

it, this is often because

the person is addressing

the problem on too low

a diagonal of the

discount matrix.

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Using the Discount Matrix

It follows that in using

the matrix as a problem

solving tool, we need to

begin by looking for

discounts on the highest

diagonal first.

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Using the Discount Matrix• We step into the matrix at

the top left corner. • If we discover a discount

there, we need to deal with that discount before going any further downward or to the right.

• Because if we miss that initial discount and try to deal with a discount on any lower diagonal, our intervention will itself be discounted.

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Example• If you were the friend of a

smoker and seeing him cough, you say “ I am concerned about you. Please give up smoking.”

• With your intervention, you have addressed the problem on the lowest diagonal of the box.

• The issue is whether the smoker is going to act on a specific option.

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Example• But suppose the smoker is

discounting much higher on the matrix?

• For example, he may be diagonal T2, discounting the significance of stimulus and existence of the problem.

• It is obvious that he will also discount any relevance in what you have just said to him.

• Why should he have any investment is stopping smoking, when as far as he is aware, his smoker’s cough is not a problem.

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Example

Suppose now you wanted

to help your smoking

friend by systematically

using the discount matrix,

you would begin by

checking for a discount on

diagonal T1. “Are you

aware that you have got a

really bad cough?”

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Example• If he confirms that he is

aware of the cough, you would go down to the next diagonal.

• You might ask “ Is that cough of yours something you bother about?”

• Were he to reply “No, Not really, it is something I just take for granted.”

• Now you have located that his discount is on T2.

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Example

• This lets you know that if

your smoker friend is to

give up his habit, he first

needs to become aware

that his cough may indicate

a problem

• He needs to realize too

that his problem may be a

cause of his concern.

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Activity• Using discount matrix to

review your personal example of a problem situation you did not solve at the time.

• Begin at the top left of the discount matrix, check each box, working downwards on successive diagonals, until you identify the box in which you were discounting.

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Activity• As before, if you were

working in a group or with a willing friend, it may be helpful if you get a second opinion.

• Test whether you were also discounting in all the other boxes on the same diagonal and those below it.

• What were the area of discount?

• Were you discounting yourself, others or the environment?

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Activity• When you have identified the

discount, consider its ego state source.

• Did it come from contamination? An exclusion? Or were you uninformed or misinformed?

• Let yourself be aware of whatever part of reality you had previously been discounting.

• If you need accurate or new information, get it.

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Activity

• Now rerun the situation in your

mind’s eye.

• When you come to the point at

which you began discount,

replace the discount with your

full awareness of reality.

• How do you now act, think or

feel differently?

• How does this alter the

outcome of the situation?

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Application

• The discount matrix was

originally developed for

use in psychotherapy.

• But it provides an equally

effective tool for problem

solving in organization

and education.

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Example• A college teacher takes a

class and asks student some questions to check their understanding.

• To his surprise, the students can answer hardly any.

• He told himself “These students are not working. Why they don’t have any motivation?

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Example• By assuming that the

students have not been working, he is addressing a discount in the area of others on diagonal T5 or T6 of the discount matrix.

• He has assumed that students knew they have to work but they either don’t feel they can handle the work or just aren’t getting started?

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Example• When he were to check

through the discount matrix, the real problem may be different.

• While lecturing, he mumbles. The students cant hear what he is saying.

• The discount is on diagonal T2 of the matrix.

• To address the problem, the lecturer simply needs to speak up.

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