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    Challenge Class

    sucks.

    Plan the work, work the plan. Dan

    John

    We tend to overemphasize the second part of that

    Dan John quote, and drastically undervalue the first

    part. Today, were going to talk about your plan.

    There are really only three key ideas that you need

    to wrap your brain around when it comes to strength

    training.

    1. Volume

    2. Intensity

    3. Load

    Ive talked about each of these before, but I want to

    discuss them within the context of an example my

    Squat Nemesis Program. I think it often helps the

    learning process to simply work through

    examples. And this particular one is nice because it

    encompasses all of them at once.

    AQuickExplanationOfTheSquatNemesisProgram

    Let me first outline the program for you, then we

    can discuss why it looks the way it does. It was

    named by my friend Cliff Dyer (who I also coach

    through our new online coaching site and who I tag

    in a few too many ofmy facebookposts). He was

    one of my first Guinea pigs when I began

    experimenting with variations of it.

    NOTE: it should be made clear that there is nothing

    magic or even unique about my little squat

    program, here. It is just something that I stumbled

    on, partly by accident, partly by hunting around to

    see what worked and why in other programs,

    and slowly it got pieced together into its current

    form. I know it will change again.

    I put the word Program in quotes for a reason.

    A workout is NOT the same as a program. A workout

    is just that, a single thing you do in the gym on any

    given day. A program is a series of workouts put

    together in a particular way designed to elicit aphysical adaptation of some kind in the body.

    Given that, The Squat Nemesis could be easily taken

    just simply as a workout, not a full-bore program.

    And you could plug that workout into any number of

    other programs.

    However, I use the term because a program has

    indeed evolved out of it and is being used on a

    rotational basis by the members of my gym. In other

    words, I have both a Squat Nemesis Workout AND a

    Squat Nemesis Program sorry for the confusion.

    TheSquatNemesisWorkoutThe workout is simply the sets and reps and weight

    used. It can be done with either Back or Front

    Squats.

    Here is what I would write on the white board at

    PDX Weightlifting.

    Romancing The JerkRomancing The Jerk

    A step-by-step beginnersA step-by-step beginners

    guide to Jerk Techniqueguide to Jerk Technique

    Romancing The CleanRomancing The Clean

    A step-by-step beginnersA step-by-step beginners

    guide to Clean Techniqueguide to Clean Technique

    Samurai StrengthSamurai Strength

    How to go from Clueless toHow to go from Clueless to

    your 1st Contest... in 12-your 1st Contest... in 12-

    weeks FLATweeks FLAT

    Below are a few collections ofBelow are a few collections of

    my most popular articles bymy most popular articles by

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    Your Ultimate Guide ToYour Ultimate Guide To

    SquattingSquatting

    Your Ultimate Guide ToYour Ultimate Guide To

    Olympic WeightliftingOlympic Weightlifting

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    The Mind and SportsThe Mind and Sports

    PsychologyPsychology

    Nick Horton And TamaraNick Horton And Tamara

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    1RM

    Hvy 3

    25 (for speed at 50%+)

    Let me now explain that drivel in more detail!

    First, you work up to a 1 rep maximum. That can

    either be a fullblown miss, or just the heaviest repyou can do with good form.

    Second, you drop the weight down to about 70% of

    what you hit for your 1RM and start working back up

    in 3 reps at a time. If you get all 3, then you add a

    little weight. Keep going till the weight gets heavy

    enough to be your last good set without a miss.

    I prefer that you never get less than 3 total sets.

    And if that means you cant add weight to the bar to

    get them all, so be it.

    I also prefer that you add weight slowly. Dont take

    20 kilo jumps! I like 5k jumps or less (especially if

    you are a female or male with a 1RM less than 100

    kilos). Your jumps in weight on each successive set

    shouldnt be more than 5% of your 1RM. But down

    to 2% or 3% is even better.

    Lastly, you do 2 sets of 5 reps at 50% of your 1RM

    for the day. You do these for speed. If you do your

    first set, and you think you can go up in weight a

    bit, do so. But follow the same rules we used for the

    3s.

    The goal here isnt the weight on the bar (per se) it

    is the perfection of the lift. Go down under perfect

    control, and then explode out of the hole like your

    life depends on it. Go so fast that the bar pops up abit at the top of the lift. Reset yourself, and do your

    next rep. Slow(ish) down, fast as hell on the way up.

    Every rep picture perfect.

    You can do more than 2 sets I wont stop you! But

    I have found that 2 sets is usually plenty if you

    worked hard enough up to this point.

    EXAMPLE: You are a female who just hit 75 kilos

    for your max back squat for the day. So you drop to

    70% of that, which is about 56 kilos. You do 3 reps

    with 56k. Not too bad. Given that 5% of 75k is

    about 4 kilos, you take 60 kilos for your next set.

    That was harder, so you go 62k next. You feel fiestyand take 65k but that was a real struggle, so you

    stop.

    When I write Hvy (Heavy), I dont mean max. I

    just mean that I need you to need to go up the a

    weight that is heavy enough that you arent

    convinced you can add any more without it going

    badly.

    Finally, you drop down to 40 kilos to do your two

    sets of 5 reps. 40 kilos felt very easy. So you go 45k.

    Not too bad. You go 50k and stop there.

    TheSquatNemesisProgramI will now explain the basic squat program I am

    calling the Squat Nemesis Program that is based

    upon the workout above. I am still playing with this,

    so dont take it as written in stone. But this should

    give you a rough idea.

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    I particularly like to use small month-long blocks

    where we go heavy for about 2 or 3 weeks (like my

    21-day Squat Challenge ) and then unload for 1

    week. I might extend that to more loading weeks

    followed by a 2 week taper leading into a contest.

    But most of the time I keep it simple.

    Loading Weeks (Do 2 or 3 of these)

    Monday/Wednesday/Friday = Back Squat Nemesis

    Tuesday/Thursday = Front Squat Nemesis

    Unloading Week (only 1 unless you are truly in

    the throws of Hell)

    Monday/Wednesday/Friday = Back Squats: 1RM

    Tuesday/Thursday = Front Squat: 1RM

    Wow! Simple, eh?

    The point of this program most of my programs

    is to accumulate fatigue for a few weeks until youstart to feel like crap. Then you back off a bit to

    allow for your body to adapt. Repeat.

    In other words, you dont just do an endless stream

    of Squat Nemesis workouts forever!

    Doing workouts like this upwards of 5 days a week

    like we do will slowly pound you into the ground.

    But, then, that is the point! I am TRYING to pound

    you into the ground so that I can build you back up

    again into a better, stronger, and significantly more

    awesome version of yourself.

    WhyDoesItWork?Or,TheStress/AdaptationCycle

    Programs like the above that incorporate a TON of

    volume and high loads work because the body only

    adapts when it has been given no choice. You need

    to give it an ultimatum. It has no interest in putting

    in all the work it takes to become stronger if it

    doesnt absolutely have to. Becoming stronger is

    metabolically taxing, and should be avoided if it can

    be or so the body is going to think about it.

    Most lifters hit a platuau and end up staying there

    for years primarily because of this basic reality. You

    have to force the issue. If you dont, it wont

    happen.

    More is not always better, but it usually

    is. Nick Horton (Yes, I just quoted

    myself!)

    The more you force it, the better the results the

    only caveat to that statement is that you need to

    give yourself the chance to adapt after you have

    beaten it down into submission.

    Here is the recipe I like:

    1. Force the issue with a ridiculous amount of work

    2. Pull back and allow for adaptation

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    There is some anecdotal evidence that if you stay in

    the overstressed state for long enough your body

    will start adapting anyway, and you dont really need

    to taper off completely. Guys like Ivan Abadjiev, John

    Broz, and Jim Moser, as well as others have

    discussed this at length.

    I MOSTLY agree with this, but I want to be very

    careful about how I approach my explanation. What

    I dont want you to do is avoid deload weeks

    altogether in your effort to reach maximum

    adaptation! Most people will mess this up, do itwrong, and end up hurt. With a good coach

    watching you it is far easier to do such things safely.

    One method I have found is to have my lifters only

    partially deload, then go right back onto a stress

    cycle. I will do this for a few months on end,

    compounding the fatigue, then do a full 2 week

    taper that leads into a contest.

    In other words, you have created a giant 3 layered

    cake out of your Stress/Adaptation cycles.

    The first layer is just the single workout and the 24-

    hours (or so) rest until the next workout. The second

    layer is the base program above. The third layer is a

    series of those mini cycles back to back leading to a

    big taper at the end.

    GoingDeeper:Volume,Load,andIntensityExplained

    That was the more general explanation of why

    programs like The Squat Nemesis work. Im now

    going to go one level deeper and explain HOW to

    stress yourself properly to gain the strength you are

    after.

    As I said at the beginning of this (increasingly long)

    article, hard work by itself is not enough.You can

    run a marathon every single day and that is

    undeniably hard but it wont help you squat

    double bodyweight or more.

    First I will quickly explain the basics of Volume, Load,

    and Intensity. Then Ill jump into the concept of

    Intensity Zone training and why I think that is a big

    key to the success of most good programs.

    The two main ones are:

    Volume= Sets x Reps

    Load= Sets x Reps x Weight lifted

    Intensitywhen used in the context of strength

    training is usually just another name for weight lifted

    relative to your 1RM. So if your max squat is 100

    kilos, and you lift 90 kilos, that is 90% intense

    bro.

    IntensityZones

    None of that is complicated, and weve looked at it

    plenty of times before like in my Pump Up The

    Volume article.

    What we have NOT covered yet is the idea of

    Intensity Zones.

    Every coach, every sports scientist, every

    weightlifting program seems to have their own

    variation of how to split up their zones that they

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    like to have their lifters do work in. Why would I be

    any different!

    Here is how I do it, many do it similarly. But even

    those who have different numbers, are running on

    the same underlying principles it is underlying

    principles we care about here.

    Intensity Zones

    Zone 1 90% of max to 100% of your 1 rep

    max

    Zone 2 70% to 89% of max

    Zone 3 50% to 69% of max

    Zone 4 49% and lower

    The way your body adapts partly depended on the

    total work done was it hard enough? and just as

    dependent on the TYPE of work done.

    If all you do is rep after rep in Zone 4 (like many

    CrossFit WODs have you do, for instance), then you

    are not going to increase your 1RM much at all.

    Why not?

    Because your body will be trying to make itself better

    at working in Zone 4 not Zone 1.

    You get good at what you do Chris

    Extine (lifter at PDX Weightlifting, math

    teacher, cool cat)

    **When I was in Bulgaria** (read: California, at

    the gym of Ivan Abadjiev and Alex Krychev) a few

    weeks ago, in addition to having the time of my life

    in the sun with great people and weightlifting, Ivan

    Abadjiev gave us a private lecture about just this

    concept. The primary point of which was that if you

    want to get good at maxing out, you need to max

    out.

    In future articles I will discuss the details of how this

    works in the body the details he was explaining

    but the essence is that the body will only adapt to

    meet the stresses you put on it no more.

    Improving your heavy 1 rep maximum on the squat

    requires certain and very specific kinds of

    adaptations. You must attack each and every one of

    them if you want to get stronger at the fastest rate

    possible.

    Among the stresses your body needs to deal with in

    order to be bothered are:

    A CNS adaptation to feeling heavy loads on the

    body. This cant be understated. Your central

    nervous system must learnhow to squat/lift

    heavy. It isnt just about being stronger.

    Get generally stronger duh.

    Improve explosive power.

    Perfect technique generally

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    Perfect your ability to MAINTAIN technique when

    the weights get heavy enough to scare you.

    There are more, of course. But these are the big

    ones I am always worried about with any lifter I

    coach.

    Not all of these are capable of being trained at the

    same time or in the same way. That is where the

    concept of working in different intensity zones comes

    in, and makes sense.

    To understand all of this, lets use my Squat Nemesis

    workout as the example again.

    First

    You go to a 1RM. That puts you in Zone 1. Working

    above 90% is imperative for gaining strength at the

    high end. This zone is great at working the CNS and

    causing general strength gains.

    This is also the place were you work your brain. By

    that I mean your brains ability to shut down the fear

    response. It isnt as bad in squatting as it is on theOlympic lifts, but it still exists.

    If your form breaks, you will miss your heaviest

    weights. When you freak out, your form breaks.

    When the weights are heavy, you freak out.

    See that chain of events?

    You gotta attack the last part of it. It is the driver of

    the entire domino effect.

    The weights being heavy and feeling heavy is not a

    reason to freak out. But that is easier to say than

    actually put into practice.

    And that is the point. You must PRACTICE the act of

    chilling out with heavy weights.

    Second

    Back off set time! You go down to the low end of

    Zone 2, 70%, and you start working back up in sets

    of 3 reps (some other programs might have you

    doing 2s, others up to 5s the point is: do work,

    son/daughter).

    This is the zone where I want the majority of your

    reps to be. That is because you are again workingthe CNS some (though not to the same level), you

    are improving general strength, and you are causing

    substantial fatigue to the body which as I said

    above is the point.

    These are also reps you can use very good technique

    on. They should NOT be ugly. You might have had

    to grind out a few of your heavy singles leading to

    your max. But that should not be happening here.

    Third

    You drop to 50% of your 1RM and start doing sets

    of 5 reps for speed and technical perfection. You areimproving explosive power, you are making technique

    more ingrained. You are adding fuel to the fire of

    your overall stress that is pushing your recovery

    capacity down = good.

    You see what I did there?

    much of what I've learnedmuch of what I've learned

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    With just one workout, we covered all your bases.

    VariationfortheOlympicWeightlifter

    What I wrote above as the Squat Nemesis Program

    works great, and I wouldnt change it up too much

    unless you are already doing a ton of work already.

    Sometimes I have lifters do what we call Mini-

    Nemesis which is the same, but you drop the 5s atthe end.

    That kind of variation makes sense when they have

    already done 2 hours of work on the Olympic lifts,

    and will be doing heavy clean/snatch pulls as well

    after they squat.

    The olympic lifts cover much of what the 5s are

    there for except better.

    That said, the 5s still show up a lot.

    ComparisontoOtherSquatProgramsI know this is bound to be a question, so I figure I

    will attack it now. What is the difference between

    Squat Nemesis and something like Texas Method? Or

    Smolov? 5/3/1? Or something similar (I am not

    going to explain what these are here. If you dont

    know, google is your friend.

    Fundamentally, they all work for the same reason:

    Lots of work at the main Intensity zone ranges: Zone

    1, Zone 2, and a little in Zone 3. At the core, they all

    work well, and have for a lot of people.

    Just for fun, lets look at the differences. (Keep inmind these observations are exclusively based on my

    personal experience using them with my own lifters

    and the way in which we used them. It is more than

    possible for people to NOT share my experience.)

    Texas method squatting has a lot of benefits,

    especially for beginners. However, it does have the

    drawback of not being variable enough to work for

    lifters who advancing. There ARE variants, dont take

    me too harshly here. But I feel as though more work

    with singles is important as you advance as well as

    some kind of built in autoregulation. Plus, heavy 5s

    do start to get in the way of your Olympic lifting, in

    my opinion, and should be used sparingly.

    Smolov is awesome but we have found it works

    best for those early intermediate lifters who arent

    squatting THAT much yet. For instance, I had most

    success with Smolov on male lifters who were not

    yet squatting over 300 pounds consistently. Once

    they were pushing that 400 pound Olympic squat, it

    started to be less effective.

    5/3/1 is really a great programming concept. Of the

    three, this is my favorite. The reason is that it has

    built in autoregulation! I strongly believe that as you

    progress, the ability to autoregulate is a must. And if

    you dont have a coach with you at every workout

    that can take over for your brain (and do this foryou) your program needs to have stop-gaps built

    in. This has that, has work in all intensity zones, and

    is something you can use as a rank beginner or a

    more advanced lifter.

    My Squat Nemesis program is like 5/3/1 in those two

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    ways: Autoregulation; Multiple zone training.

    How it is very different than 5/3/1 is its Bulgarian

    esque tendencies: Lots of maxing and daily work (I

    know, I know those are myths! .

    This variation between 5/3/1 and what I have lifters

    do is largely grown out of the fact that Wendler is a

    powerlifter, and I am an Oly lifter. The WAY we squat

    is even different. I dont want to get into this, but

    the way we squat in weightlifting makes maxing out

    daily an option that simply doesnt exist for apowerlifting squat or deadlift youd die.

    In short

    Other famous squat programs work because they

    have very high volume and loads, and they spend

    their training time in the most important intensity

    zones.

    My own program is only different in that it is highly

    autoregulated (daily), and that allows for it to be

    used by anyone with the exception of true rank

    beginners who have no business maxing.

    But I work with very few true beginners who have

    no strength training background whatsoever. Most

    people who come to me are either CrossFitters or

    Athletes from others sports.

    So a rank beginner program isnt appropriate most of

    the time. They need more.

    I MAY have them ONLY do the 3s and then 5s for a

    month or so if I dont believe they can safely max

    out on singles just yet. But that is becoming more

    rare.

    I used to be far more hesitant I am becoming lessso through experience.

    Almostpointlesssidenote

    It is funny how I have become LESS timid as I learn

    more, have coached far more people, and progressed

    as a coach. When I first started, I avoided maxes like

    the plague, I kept the overall volume down, the load

    was even lower, and we did all kinds of pre-hab

    and corrective exercises.

    I now push people to the brink of death.

    Results are up.

    Injuries are down.

    And everyone is having more fun.

    Crazy how some things work out

    GoDeeper

    This stuff can get far more complicated, and as you

    progress it should. Just another one of those

    annoying cases where sticking to the basics is far

    harder than it looks.

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    MATTY CHOUPure bad assery Nick! Now can we PLEASE

    front squat some more at the gym?!

    REPLYREPLY

    NICK HORTONhahahaha! hey, why arent you in

    the squat rack right now?

    JOHANHave you ever encountered anyone that

    simply responds better to higher reps?

    When it comes to the slow lifts I have

    always progressed the best when I do sets

    of around 10 reps. When I did Westside

    style training I gained the best when first

    assistance exercise was the same as the

    main exercise, but for 3-4 sets of 10.

    When I did doggcrapp style training I was

    strong as a bull (relatively to my strength

    of course) in 1rm as well.

    When I have focused more on 1rms, 3rms

    and 5 rep sets however I stall fairly quickly

    and then go no where. Reps quickly turn

    into butt ugly horrible grinders. On contrast

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    REPLYREPLY

    when doing 10 rep sets even the failure

    rep usually feel technically sound.

    I can also add that when I did texas

    method my volume day ended up at 3 sets

    of 5 with 91% of my 1rm, I guess that

    indicates I am slow twitch dominant :/

    So my question I guess is, is some people

    just better of doing higher reps in squats?

    NICK HORTONWell sort of.

    It isnt that I have had lifters

    respond to higher reps, per se

    but even higher volume.

    The struggle is that if you are

    doing reps in a range that are TOO

    high as the base or focus of your

    training, you cant be in a high

    enough Zone to do any good for

    serioius 1RM strength gains.

    What too high means is very

    individual, so in that sense, yes,

    some people need higher reps. So

    back off sets at 70%+ may be

    better with 5s than 3s. Even 8s if

    they feel feisty.

    But Id rather see more sets, than

    more reps, so that you can push

    the weight higher. but keep the

    volume the same, AKA increase

    load.

    So if you were someone with a

    100k max (for easy math!), and

    were doing 4 sets of 10 with 80k

    then thats 4x10x80 = 3,200 kilos

    for your load for the workout

    But if you did 10 sets of 4 reps

    with 90k thats 10 x 4 x 90 = 3,600

    kilos for your load for the day.

    Now, that is a silly example, since

    most people will have an even

    greater difference between a 10 rep

    vs 5 or lower rep set. But it makes

    the point.

    You need total work. Not

    necessarily going to true failure or

    something on every set.

    What is interesting is that many of

    the mid-range muscle fibers can be

    made to ACT like faster twitch

    muslce fibers over time if you work

    them correctly.

    Id rather you recruit these fibers in

    Zone 2 and 1 with set after set of

    weights you can move hard andfast, and do low enough reps that

    you can do more sets and keep the

    speed up.

    In other words, you can make

    yourself MORE fast twitch over time

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    REPLYREPLY

    with work. Will you be like the

    Olympic sprinters? No. But you will

    be faster. And that is worth fighting

    for.

    REPLYREPLY

    JOHANThanks for the reply.

    The problem I have I think

    is that because the spreadbetween my 1rm strength

    and rep strength is so small

    I end up being in zone 1 for

    my 3 rep sets, I was doing

    the mistake of grinding reps

    as well and that combination

    just toasted me right away.

    Next time around I will do

    5s instead of 3s and keep

    the reps snappy or do 3s

    but limit myself to around

    85% of 1rm and do more

    sets.

    What is your take on

    Poliquins ideas about

    different types and how they

    should train? If one cuts

    through the meta-physical

    bs this article is quite

    interesting, when I do his

    1rm followed by max reps

    at 85% of 1rm test I am

    spot on an earth type lifter

    for lower body dominated

    lifts.

    http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/384/The_Five_Elements__A_New_Training_Paradigm.aspx

    NICK HORTONI think there is

    something to what he

    is saying my

    problem is that it

    doesnt take seriously

    enough how much

    control you have over

    your ability to change

    a good chunk of your

    muscle fibers to ACT

    LIKE fast twitch

    fibers.

    You do want to train

    fibers in ways that

    they respond to best

    that is ONE of your

    goals.

    The other is to get

    any fiber than has

    any ability what-so-

    ever to change and

    become faster to do

    exactly that.

    This goes back to

    that you get good at

    what you do

    principle. Olympic

    lifts. box jumps, etc,

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    questions,lol

    Yes, we do it at the end of

    the workout before Pulls.

    Basically, Oly lift forever

    then squat forever then

    pulls for about 5 minutes

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    HARRYAwesome article.

    ive been playing around with multiple zone

    training and believe it to be very effective.

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    NICK HORTONAwesome, Harry!

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    MILESNick,

    I really like the program. But I was waiting

    the whole time for you to get to the

    expected results part!

    So, my high bar back squat 1RM is 300lbs

    and my front squat max is 240. If I go

    through three cycles of this program what

    kind of increases could I expect?

    NICK HORTONHonestly, that is the kind of thing I

    like to shy away from. I know it is

    common practice in the

    fitness/strength industry to give

    people expected results but I

    find it remarkably misleading and

    almost impossible to be truly

    honest about.

    You could have high end resutls or

    low end. That will be based on all

    those things that are highly unique

    to you.

    But If I say a number, a high end

    number, that is the number people

    EXPECT to hit. most wont. Most

    arent at tthe high end.

    But, just for shits and giggles, this

    is a rather a normal range:

    10k to 40k in 3 months IF you are

    not truly advanced, you are doing

    everything else right, like sleeping

    and eating well, and all that shit.

    My lifter Erik went from 160k to

    195k in about 8 weeks on the BS

    Dave (who is 42) added 20k to his

    back squat in about that long

    (might have been shorter)

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    Neither were beginners far from

    it.

    Many other lifters did almost as

    good, some do more like 2 to 5k

    per month for a while. My goal is

    no less than a 10k to 40k increase

    on a liters total (on the oly lifts) per

    year depending on age, gender,

    genetics, etc. And the BS, FS, pulls,

    etc are there to be pushed up in

    support of that goal

    clearly, there comes a point of

    diminishing returns. Erik will never

    again add 40k to his BS in 8 weeks.

    He is already at 195 at a BW of 82.

    So, that is totally unrealistic.

    All Im saying is that I try to avoid

    such discussions if I can help it on

    purpose. Id rather explain HOW

    and WHY it works, how to

    implement it, and let the results

    you get be the results you get. And

    do all of that without unnecessarilyhigh (or even low) expectations

    getting in the way.

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    KEITHExcellent article. I think this program is

    exactly what my squat has been needing.

    Thanks for sharing!

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    NICK HORTONSure thing, Keith! Let me know how

    it goes!

    WILL ARIASHey Nick, your site rocks, mister. Thanks

    for sharing your knowledge. i used to

    believe i wasnt built to squat after many

    years of medical treatment, where the

    prescription included staying away from

    squat racks Anyway, to make the story

    short, i decided to include squats in my

    own training regime, against all theoverprotective medical advice. First part of

    my plan was trying to learn how to do it

    properly and started reading the books of

    Mark Rippetoe and going to great strength

    courses, such as Mark Buckleys FMA.

    Anyway, best decision ever! It has been a

    year since I started my squatting journey.

    Ive been working in my joint mobility,

    fascia realise and nerve system activation.

    Once i made myself suited to squat with a

    decent ROM, i began squatting with an

    empty barbell and gradually i started to

    add plates. Mi initial goal was to perform

    10 reps with my own bodyweight. This

    morning i bet my PB with 10 with 120%

    my bodyweight (ass to grass or using a

    low-box or a kettlebell as a point of

    reference) Now i can honestly say i feel

    proud of making the decision of proving

    wrong that bunch orthopedists and physios

    who prescribed rest instead of movement

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    as the solution for my lumbar and hip

    issues. Tonight, i want to say thank you

    to you and other guys like Michael Boyle,

    Gray Cook and Bret Contreras for showing

    me how tackling dysfunction is the best

    way to facilitate real functionality and

    performance. Being healthier, fitter and

    stronger is much more than jumping on

    plyo boxes, doing burpies, juggling

    kettlebells or hammering tyres. Nothing

    against Crossfit, by the way. In fact, I find

    it great as long as the performer doesnt

    butcher the mechanics of the lifts, which

    sadly is not always the case. However,

    working in cruise control (50-50% between

    cardio and resistance) never is going to

    elevate maximum strength levels. It is

    great to see you validate that point very

    clearly.

    Finally, what i want to express is the fact

    that thanks to blokes like you, the iron

    Samurai, today we can have access to

    straight forward education. Thanks, Nick

    (Before internet, it was all about Joe

    Weider and Kennedy mags). And thanks for

    reading me. From Melbourne (Australia),

    Will Arias.PS. Oops, sorry, i forgot to ask you: After

    reading Starting Strength: and Strong

    enough? , i got clearly how Rippetoe

    definitely prefers Low-bar squats over High

    bar squats. His main reasons obviously are

    the facts the low-bar squat allows to

    manage a heavier load and more

    recruitment of the posterior chain. However

    he also says that Low-bar squats are

    actually better for the spine. However, i find

    difficult to agree in that last point. I believe

    the high-suats are perfect combination or

    the junction of two different worlds: Front

    Squats and Low-bar Squats. Being yourself

    and Oly lifter, may i have your opinionabout it? Cheers, mate.

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    NICK HORTONHey Will!!

    Thanks for the feedback, my man.

    I really appreciate it!

    As for you question on Low vs High

    bar squats I think people make

    too big a deal about it. If you are

    an Oly lifter, it matters. Otherwise,it really doesnt.

    I DID have a discussion about this

    with Michael Hartman on our

    Weightlifting Academy show once,

    here is the episode:

    http://www.weightliftingacademy.com/2012/02/29/ep-

    3-pick-a-squat-any-squat/

    SULAYMANGreat article Coach Horton!

    Is it normal for back squat to stall while

    Front squat increases? I.e been stuck on

    the same daily max for BS for a month

    now while i set prs (5 ibs )weekly on FS.

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    Does this happen with your athletes? I

    max on BS in the morning and max on FS

    in the afternoon with back off sets 90% of

    1rm for 30 reps.

    Also how do you deal with nagging pains

    from daily squatting? sore calves, hips,

    vatus medialis etc

    Look forward to more articles

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    NICK HORTONHey Sulayman!

    Yep, that is normal. Especially if

    you have yet to become a truly

    efficient front squatter. Most people

    just havent front squatted enough

    to have the lifts they are doing be a

    true reflection of what they are

    capable of given what they are

    back squatting.

    Also if you are only doing backoff sets with Front Squats, that will

    also make a difference. More

    volume on a lift will make that lift

    go up faster most of the time.

    We often alternate periods where

    we focus on BS for a while, then on

    FS for a while. It changes a lot.

    As for your 2nd questions. More

    rolling out with Lacrosse balls is

    almost always good. Stretching

    when needed. But the rolling out

    religiously daily makes a big big

    difference for most lifters.

    BORGE FAGERLIAwesome article, coach! I have used

    variations of this system with my own

    lifters for a while now, an excellent

    example is a 19-year old female powerlifter

    with only 9 months of powerlifting

    experience, who just broke two national

    records and qualified for the worlds. High

    frequency, singles, triples and some speed

    work all auto-regulated.

    Also see Christian Thibaeudaeu (sp?) using

    heavy work-ups and speed set drops over

    at T-nation.

    I realize that olympic lifters want to stay in

    certain weight classes, but if someone is

    borderline i.e. finding it increasingly

    difficult to make weight how would you

    make them grow into a higher weight

    class? Would you still use a variation of

    this system, just adding more 5s or higher

    rep work for volume (with less frequency)

    or would you do higher reps exclusively?

    I like the layering approach where you hit

    different qualities in one workout, thats

    why Im asking, but I fear that a volume

    approach for hypertrophy would make

    recovery from daily squatting/front

    squatting difficult.

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    Also in line with your earlier back squat

    post for a taller lifter with back issues,

    could this template work with front squats

    only?

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    NICK HORTONBorge!

    Finally answering this

    Ill answer your last question first

    because it is easy: Yes. It works

    with FSs only. In fact many of my

    lifters do that.

    Now for the Hypertrophy question:

    I wont alter to program much since

    it has plenty of volume for

    Hypertrophy if anything, just do

    more 3s and/or 5s in Zone 2 and

    a few more 5s in Zone 3

    But really, most guys in my gym

    are also doing the Oly lifts for very

    high volume and pulls daily.

    So their volume is over the top.

    More than enough to grow on.

    At that point, food is the issue.

    They just need to eat more and

    they will almost always get bigger.

    If anything, high volume programs

    like this make it hard for me to

    keep my lifters small unless they

    are really into dieting (my lifterBrandon is a good example at 62k)

    Most of my lifters will gain an entire

    weightclass in the first year if they

    are males and eating enough.

    Im a big believer that body comp

    of any kind is primarily driven by

    diet. Performance is driven by your

    workouts. To gain or lose weight

    requires 1st a dietary change. The

    workouts may not need to be

    altered at all assuming they are

    smartly written.

    And the converse seems to be true

    as well you can perform and do

    amazing things with a shitty diet.

    You may not look like a

    bodybuilder, but you might snatch a

    house.

    Obviously in an ideal world, you

    have both. But hypertrophy

    requires only two things really:

    volume + boatloads of food. This

    program has the volume next up

    food.

    SHELDON KREGERWell, this is indeed how I added 100 lbs to

    my front squat in 8 months. PDX

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    Weightlifting RULES

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    NICK HORTONTrue Fact my brother!

    And (for those reading) Sheldon is

    the Autoregulation MASTER. He

    basically does whatever the fuck he

    wants, when he wants (I do what I

    want!) but all with an eye towardwhat his body is telling hiim, and

    with the constraint of the basic

    programs Ive outlined and he

    has not only gained a crap-ton on

    his squats, he has also gotten all

    bulky and manly and shit

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    ELKEGreat article, and lots of knowledge to be

    found on your site. Thank you.

    Would you modify the program for a

    master lifter, especially in regard to the five

    weekly workouts? Ive been Olympic lifting

    for 5 years, usually work out three times

    per week.

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    NICK HORTONIm glad you like the site! Thanks!

    Your question: Sometimes yes,

    sometimes no.

    I think with Masters lifters the REAL

    constraint is your LIFE, not

    anything related to your body. So

    with lifters who work a lot of hours

    and dont sleep well, or have a

    family they need to be home for all

    time yes. I will dial it back to

    whatever they have time for.

    But if you have time? I will kill

    you.

    My lifter Cyndi is 42 years old and

    trains like a maniac 5 days a weekand has been for 15 months now.

    Shes kicking ass. She IS a bit of an

    outlier (I admit) as she was a

    competitve bodybuilder before, so

    she had a great base coming in.

    But, I have a lot of lifters in the

    masters classes doing WAY more

    than most believe is possible.

    ARNOUDHey nick, great article. Would you

    recommend the same approach for the

    olympic lifts (maybe doubles instead of

    triples)? How would you add clean or

    snatch pulls. Do you recommend those at

    all?

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    NICK HORTONYes, I like triples instead of 5s

    most of the time for back off sets

    on Oly lifts.

    It is VERY common to see on my

    White Board:

    Snatch 1RM + Hvy 3

    Or

    Snatch 1RM + 33 @ 80% +

    or something to that effect

    So it is like doing the first 2 parts

    of Nemesis, but dropping the

    speed sets since EVERY set on

    an Olympic lift is a speed set, lol

    As for pulls I am very very

    careful with those when it comes to

    beginners.

    I never allow beginner to go heavy

    at all. And a pull for them is just

    going through the motions of a

    snatch and stopping at the hip

    with NO explosive hip extension.

    Slow, controlled, exact positions

    Now, for my more advanced lifters?

    They pull DAILY, and heavy enough

    to break form, and with a big

    explosion at the top.

    Clean pulls twice a week, Snatchpulls twice a week, RDLs once

    That is a lot of pulling. And if I

    didnt already trust their form, Id

    never allow them to do this.

    I think I need to do a video on my

    opinions about pulls, lol

    JOSH

    Hi Nick,I have done one day of the squat nemeis

    program and knowing my body as I do, I

    have a few questions for you.

    I get the impression that I will be in a

    serious hole by day 3 of a week an I can

    imagine my 1RM dwindling as the week

    goes on. I am assuming that a couple days

    off will allow a certain amount of recovery

    and the 1RM bump up slightly week on

    week. But coupled with cleans in the same

    format my neuro muscular system (NMS) is

    goin to be fried. Giving myself 1 de-load

    week wud give me a chance to kick back

    and get the NMS re-juvinated, but if I am

    still 1RM lifting everyday it doesnt really

    get a rest from intensity at all??

    From what you have seen with your guys

    do 1RM gradually decrease throughout the

    week, then bump up the following week?

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    truly necessary.

    The biggest issue isnt your body, it

    is your psychological NEED to see a

    big 1RM all the time. Freaking out

    when you go a week of crappy

    singles is normal, but must be

    avoided. Push through, as long as

    your form is good, and you arent

    stupid about it, you will be safe and

    injury free so that isnt really a

    worry. The only worry is your ego

    Accept upwards of a 20% drop of

    your 1rm for days on end, even a

    few weeks on end.

    The body will adapt 90% of the

    time and bounce back eventually

    much stronger, and you will hit

    PRs.

    But if you delaod to early, you are

    never forcing this serious

    adaptation to occure, and so it

    never does.

    It is a very different mode of

    thinking about training shifting

    from a linear mindset to a multi-

    linear mindset. But it works

    wonders if you are willing to put

    the ego up on the shelf for a while.

    Again I am NOT advocating

    stupidity. Form is king always. Your

    1RM is the heaviest lift you can do

    with good form, not the heaviest

    lift you can do. There is a

    difference.

    And rant over, LOL

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    SUBHOMSIKALIENOutstanding stuff. Could I apply the same

    programming (1RM

    Hvy 3, 25) to powerlifting in lifts such as

    the bench press?

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    NICK HORTONHonestly, I wouldnt do this with

    bench but then again, I dont

    work with Powerlifters, so Im not

    sure.

    Im always worried that the upper

    body simply cant take what the

    lower body can and stay injury free

    If anything, Id not actually max

    out with bench, and focus on the

    back offs more.

    Just a thought, but worth an

    experiment!

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    SEANHi Nick,

    Awesome article. I just started this today.

    Im doing a competition in 8 weeks (from

    this past Saturday).I was going to run this

    as is for the next 3 weeks, then de-load 1.

    Going into the last 4 weeks before the

    comp, I was thinking of running something

    similar, but with more of a focus on front

    squats. How do you usually set up squats

    leading up to a competition? Ill be able to

    squat pretty much everyday, and do

    competition lifts 3 days/week most weeks.

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    NICK HORTONSean!

    How is it going so far? Your contest

    should be coming up soon, right?

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    SEANThanks for the response

    Nick. Trainings been up and

    down, I hurt myself a couple

    times and went on a last-

    minute vacation. I was

    thinking of not doing it until

    I hit a C&J PR at a coaching

    course. Aiming for 77/100

    @77, went 67/92 at my first

    competition in Feb.

    Right now Im squatting 6

    days/week, Back, front,

    front, repeat. Not doing the

    speed sets, and the second

    front squat day Im doing

    jerk drives for triples after

    the max instead of full front

    squats

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    NICK HORTONOoh, body weight

    snatch! Hell ya

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    RYAN KOTLEWSKIHey Nick,

    I was just wondering what other lifts you

    guys do while youre on this squat cycle?

    Do you guys squat in the morning, and

    then do your oly lifts in the afternoon? Do

    you have it cycles, such as back squat,

    with cleans, front squats with snatch etc.

    Any other info would be much appreciated!

    Ryan

    NICK HORTONAs a rule, my lifters squat at the

    end of the workout after doing a

    full hour or 2 on the olympic lifts.

    Our workouts are LONG, LOL

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    It is not uncommon for my more

    serious lifters to spend 15 to 20

    hours a week lifting.

    Hell my lifter Cyndi is 42 years

    old and does 2 times a day

    workouts for a total of about 20 to

    25 hours a week of lifting. She is

    HARD CORE

    there are times we will front squatfirst, then Oly lift, the do the Back

    Squat nemesis let me tell you, I

    get a LOT of death threats.

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    SINAHey, Nick,

    I just started using your squat nemesis

    program. It takes me just over an over,

    with an active warmup, to get through a

    workout. Thats about all the time I haveduring the week for a workout. My

    question is: when would one make time for

    the Olympic lifts?

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    NICK HORTONWell, there is no doubt that this program is

    at the high end as far as athletic training is

    concerned. And that is the point.

    there are many squat programs out there

    that are good, but dont work as fast

    and part of the reason is they are scaleddown, and my program isnt.

    My lifters tend to lift for about 2 to 3 hours

    a night, so yes it is a bit nutters!!

    If you are really struggling for time, then

    you either need to prioritize and just focus

    on one or the other for a while. Good

    option.

    Or

    alternate days

    Or

    Just snatch and squat (thats a great

    option)

    Or

    cut the Nemesis routine short and do just

    the 1rm + a fast 33 sets as back offs,

    dump the 5s completely.

    Honestly, I like to either just focus on one

    thing at a time for a while or do a

    snatch/squat combo for a while.

    KYLEHey Nick,

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    I was looking around online and stumbled

    upon this, and Ive tried it out for the past

    2 weeks (on my 3rd week, doing 1rms

    only) and sofar my backsquat has gone

    down

    I was previously around 210-220lbs (I

    know, Im horribly weak. 57.5 at 135lbs,

    which would be alright if I was a girl haha.)

    but I missed 205lbs today for a single after

    2 days off and lots of time away from

    school and lots of sleep. Does the magic

    begin this week? Id hate to bash on your

    program, but Im getting a bit worried

    here, as many people whove done this

    have been increasing their squat for a while

    now. My front squat has gone up 15lbs

    (10lbs between 2 workouts, then 5lbs a

    week later)from 155lbs-170lbs.

    What am I doing wrong?!? Haha.

    Ive been alternating Snatch/Clean

    Variation/Jerk Variation/Squat and Snatch

    Variation/Clean and Jerk/Squat during my

    time on this program.

    Thanks!

    NICK HORTONLOL,

    Here are my thoughts based on the

    hundreds of people who have done

    this

    1. Your goal is to get stronger, and

    your front squat went up quite a

    bit. So you did.

    2. It may take a while for that

    strength to translate to the backsquat. Totally normal. Some people

    have the opposite happen.

    3. Progress on this is the

    OPPOSITE of linear so just

    because your squat sucks one day

    means little. you are looking for

    STATISTICAL gains.

    That is, take averages over the

    week and see if that has gone up.

    (This only works when you are

    squatting often. It doesnt make

    sense to average 3 workouts.

    Average at least 5, but Id prefer

    10+ in each comparison group)

    4. On a program like mine, taking a

    few days off almost always makes

    you weaker! (weird I know, lol)

    There is complex science behind

    this, but it is part of the point of

    the program and why my lifters

    (and every world champion) often

    train the day before a contest.

    A proper deload/taper is NOT the

    same as rest that is a key point

    5. Different people respond on

    different time-lines. Some people

    see gains as quickly as within 7

    days. Others it takes multiple

    weeks. No biggie, just keep

    plugging away.

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    If you were in my gym, and I saw

    an increase in your Front Squat like

    that, Id be very happy. Thats a

    great improvement and proves that

    you have indeed gotten stronger.

    You just need to keep at it so that

    it starts to translate over to other

    lifts.

    WAIT!

    Just went back and read your

    comment to make sure I didnt

    miss anything and I DID

    Did you say you are ONLY doing

    the 1rms?

    Because that would be the first

    thing Id change. Id make you do

    the FULL nemesis program with 3s

    and 5s every single day, 7 days a

    week, alternating front squat and

    back squat.

    Minimum 4 days a week

    but no matter what, do the back

    off sets. The ARE the program.

    I will often take a rank beginner

    and they will only 1rm for 2 or 3

    weeks but after that, its the full

    meal deal.

    KYLESorry haha, I forgot to

    mention that I already did 2

    weeks of the Nemesis

    program (with the heavy

    triples and 5s) and I felt

    awful and tired every day so

    after 2 weeks I went to the

    slight deload/taper/week of

    only 1rms. On friday I

    managed to hit 215lbs in the

    backsquat again for the first

    time in a week haha. I was

    squatting to a 1rm 2 weeks

    prior to starting the nemesis

    program, when I finally got

    stuck at 215lbs.

    So 5 weeks of squatting to a

    1rm atleast 3-5 times a week

    the first 2 weeks, then 5

    days a week

    (BS/FS/BS/FS/BS) for 2

    weeks of the loading phase

    with the triples and 5s, then

    one week of just the 1rms.

    So generally, Id have to

    assume that if it takes 5-6

    weeks for my backsquat to

    turn around and give me an

    increase, it really wouldnt be

    the most optimal path forme, although, Id assume

    itd be the most reliable.

    Being a student still in

    school, I find it super tough

    to squat + o-lift every day,

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    get my work done, eat

    enough and sleep. So going

    to a 1rm every day burns me

    out a lot, especially after

    tons of lifting prior, and

    assistance exercises

    afterwards. Although I will

    still try at this next week and

    hopefully see some

    improvement sometime

    soon. Being 10lbs shy of a

    225lbs/100kg squat for a

    month is never a good

    feeling haha.

    Also, I had this crazy idea

    Could I do O

    lifts+Squats+Madcow as a 5

    day a week workout? By

    that, I mean something like

    this:

    O lifts and squats every

    single day,

    Madcow for Benchpress,

    Row, and Push Press, Mon-

    Wed-FriAnd if you dont know what

    madcow is, the format goes

    along the lines of:

    Mon: Squat, Bench, Row (or

    powerclean) 55 (work up

    to a heavy set of 5)

    Wed: Squat (lighter),

    Press/Push Press, Deadlift

    (or highpull) 55 (working

    up to a max set of 5)

    Fri: Squat, Bench, Row/PC

    45, 13 (5lbs or ~2%above weight of max set on

    monday) 18 (75% of

    heavy triple)

    Then use the weight for the

    heavy triple on friday as the

    heavy 5 on monday for

    Squat, Bench and Row.

    Now, would it be possible to

    do Madcow for the bench,

    pushpress and row, while O-

    lifting and squatting every

    day? I know it sounds crazy

    and itd probably mean 10+

    hours in the gym a week,but could I still increase my

    other lifts on a linear basis

    as well as squatting and o-

    lifts every day without

    completely destroying my

    body?

    Thanks for all the help!

    DARREN SIGGINSReally simple but so clever, started today I

    got 117.5 x 1 front squat then up to 100 x3 for 2 sets

    If you feel really tired on a certain day

    would you still go ahead with the maxes

    then the volume or what would you have

    an athlete do?

    Would the rest negatively or positively

    affect the program in the long run in your

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    NICK HORTONthats an important question. And

    the answer is, always do as much

    as you can, no matter how you

    feel.

    (Within reasons, of course! I dont

    want you doing something stupidand hurting yourself.)

    A program like this is DESIGN to

    cause you to have bad days

    where you feel like crap. Your goal

    is to push it anyway.

    Yes, often that means the max

    will be rather low, but that isnt the

    point. the point isnt the weight on

    the bar, per se, but the EFFORT you

    put into your workouts.

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    ANDERSI started doing squat nemesis every day

    about a week ago and my knees have

    gotten incredibly stiff (at least it feels like

    that) at the point where it hurts to squat

    even without load before a thorough warm

    up. I