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Challenge Class
sucks.
Plan the work, work the plan. Dan
John
We tend to overemphasize the second part of that
Dan John quote, and drastically undervalue the first
part. Today, were going to talk about your plan.
There are really only three key ideas that you need
to wrap your brain around when it comes to strength
training.
1. Volume
2. Intensity
3. Load
Ive talked about each of these before, but I want to
discuss them within the context of an example my
Squat Nemesis Program. I think it often helps the
learning process to simply work through
examples. And this particular one is nice because it
encompasses all of them at once.
AQuickExplanationOfTheSquatNemesisProgram
Let me first outline the program for you, then we
can discuss why it looks the way it does. It was
named by my friend Cliff Dyer (who I also coach
through our new online coaching site and who I tag
in a few too many ofmy facebookposts). He was
one of my first Guinea pigs when I began
experimenting with variations of it.
NOTE: it should be made clear that there is nothing
magic or even unique about my little squat
program, here. It is just something that I stumbled
on, partly by accident, partly by hunting around to
see what worked and why in other programs,
and slowly it got pieced together into its current
form. I know it will change again.
I put the word Program in quotes for a reason.
A workout is NOT the same as a program. A workout
is just that, a single thing you do in the gym on any
given day. A program is a series of workouts put
together in a particular way designed to elicit aphysical adaptation of some kind in the body.
Given that, The Squat Nemesis could be easily taken
just simply as a workout, not a full-bore program.
And you could plug that workout into any number of
other programs.
However, I use the term because a program has
indeed evolved out of it and is being used on a
rotational basis by the members of my gym. In other
words, I have both a Squat Nemesis Workout AND a
Squat Nemesis Program sorry for the confusion.
TheSquatNemesisWorkoutThe workout is simply the sets and reps and weight
used. It can be done with either Back or Front
Squats.
Here is what I would write on the white board at
PDX Weightlifting.
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topic.topic.
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1RM
Hvy 3
25 (for speed at 50%+)
Let me now explain that drivel in more detail!
First, you work up to a 1 rep maximum. That can
either be a fullblown miss, or just the heaviest repyou can do with good form.
Second, you drop the weight down to about 70% of
what you hit for your 1RM and start working back up
in 3 reps at a time. If you get all 3, then you add a
little weight. Keep going till the weight gets heavy
enough to be your last good set without a miss.
I prefer that you never get less than 3 total sets.
And if that means you cant add weight to the bar to
get them all, so be it.
I also prefer that you add weight slowly. Dont take
20 kilo jumps! I like 5k jumps or less (especially if
you are a female or male with a 1RM less than 100
kilos). Your jumps in weight on each successive set
shouldnt be more than 5% of your 1RM. But down
to 2% or 3% is even better.
Lastly, you do 2 sets of 5 reps at 50% of your 1RM
for the day. You do these for speed. If you do your
first set, and you think you can go up in weight a
bit, do so. But follow the same rules we used for the
3s.
The goal here isnt the weight on the bar (per se) it
is the perfection of the lift. Go down under perfect
control, and then explode out of the hole like your
life depends on it. Go so fast that the bar pops up abit at the top of the lift. Reset yourself, and do your
next rep. Slow(ish) down, fast as hell on the way up.
Every rep picture perfect.
You can do more than 2 sets I wont stop you! But
I have found that 2 sets is usually plenty if you
worked hard enough up to this point.
EXAMPLE: You are a female who just hit 75 kilos
for your max back squat for the day. So you drop to
70% of that, which is about 56 kilos. You do 3 reps
with 56k. Not too bad. Given that 5% of 75k is
about 4 kilos, you take 60 kilos for your next set.
That was harder, so you go 62k next. You feel fiestyand take 65k but that was a real struggle, so you
stop.
When I write Hvy (Heavy), I dont mean max. I
just mean that I need you to need to go up the a
weight that is heavy enough that you arent
convinced you can add any more without it going
badly.
Finally, you drop down to 40 kilos to do your two
sets of 5 reps. 40 kilos felt very easy. So you go 45k.
Not too bad. You go 50k and stop there.
TheSquatNemesisProgramI will now explain the basic squat program I am
calling the Squat Nemesis Program that is based
upon the workout above. I am still playing with this,
so dont take it as written in stone. But this should
give you a rough idea.
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I particularly like to use small month-long blocks
where we go heavy for about 2 or 3 weeks (like my
21-day Squat Challenge ) and then unload for 1
week. I might extend that to more loading weeks
followed by a 2 week taper leading into a contest.
But most of the time I keep it simple.
Loading Weeks (Do 2 or 3 of these)
Monday/Wednesday/Friday = Back Squat Nemesis
Tuesday/Thursday = Front Squat Nemesis
Unloading Week (only 1 unless you are truly in
the throws of Hell)
Monday/Wednesday/Friday = Back Squats: 1RM
Tuesday/Thursday = Front Squat: 1RM
Wow! Simple, eh?
The point of this program most of my programs
is to accumulate fatigue for a few weeks until youstart to feel like crap. Then you back off a bit to
allow for your body to adapt. Repeat.
In other words, you dont just do an endless stream
of Squat Nemesis workouts forever!
Doing workouts like this upwards of 5 days a week
like we do will slowly pound you into the ground.
But, then, that is the point! I am TRYING to pound
you into the ground so that I can build you back up
again into a better, stronger, and significantly more
awesome version of yourself.
WhyDoesItWork?Or,TheStress/AdaptationCycle
Programs like the above that incorporate a TON of
volume and high loads work because the body only
adapts when it has been given no choice. You need
to give it an ultimatum. It has no interest in putting
in all the work it takes to become stronger if it
doesnt absolutely have to. Becoming stronger is
metabolically taxing, and should be avoided if it can
be or so the body is going to think about it.
Most lifters hit a platuau and end up staying there
for years primarily because of this basic reality. You
have to force the issue. If you dont, it wont
happen.
More is not always better, but it usually
is. Nick Horton (Yes, I just quoted
myself!)
The more you force it, the better the results the
only caveat to that statement is that you need to
give yourself the chance to adapt after you have
beaten it down into submission.
Here is the recipe I like:
1. Force the issue with a ridiculous amount of work
2. Pull back and allow for adaptation
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There is some anecdotal evidence that if you stay in
the overstressed state for long enough your body
will start adapting anyway, and you dont really need
to taper off completely. Guys like Ivan Abadjiev, John
Broz, and Jim Moser, as well as others have
discussed this at length.
I MOSTLY agree with this, but I want to be very
careful about how I approach my explanation. What
I dont want you to do is avoid deload weeks
altogether in your effort to reach maximum
adaptation! Most people will mess this up, do itwrong, and end up hurt. With a good coach
watching you it is far easier to do such things safely.
One method I have found is to have my lifters only
partially deload, then go right back onto a stress
cycle. I will do this for a few months on end,
compounding the fatigue, then do a full 2 week
taper that leads into a contest.
In other words, you have created a giant 3 layered
cake out of your Stress/Adaptation cycles.
The first layer is just the single workout and the 24-
hours (or so) rest until the next workout. The second
layer is the base program above. The third layer is a
series of those mini cycles back to back leading to a
big taper at the end.
GoingDeeper:Volume,Load,andIntensityExplained
That was the more general explanation of why
programs like The Squat Nemesis work. Im now
going to go one level deeper and explain HOW to
stress yourself properly to gain the strength you are
after.
As I said at the beginning of this (increasingly long)
article, hard work by itself is not enough.You can
run a marathon every single day and that is
undeniably hard but it wont help you squat
double bodyweight or more.
First I will quickly explain the basics of Volume, Load,
and Intensity. Then Ill jump into the concept of
Intensity Zone training and why I think that is a big
key to the success of most good programs.
The two main ones are:
Volume= Sets x Reps
Load= Sets x Reps x Weight lifted
Intensitywhen used in the context of strength
training is usually just another name for weight lifted
relative to your 1RM. So if your max squat is 100
kilos, and you lift 90 kilos, that is 90% intense
bro.
IntensityZones
None of that is complicated, and weve looked at it
plenty of times before like in my Pump Up The
Volume article.
What we have NOT covered yet is the idea of
Intensity Zones.
Every coach, every sports scientist, every
weightlifting program seems to have their own
variation of how to split up their zones that they
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like to have their lifters do work in. Why would I be
any different!
Here is how I do it, many do it similarly. But even
those who have different numbers, are running on
the same underlying principles it is underlying
principles we care about here.
Intensity Zones
Zone 1 90% of max to 100% of your 1 rep
max
Zone 2 70% to 89% of max
Zone 3 50% to 69% of max
Zone 4 49% and lower
The way your body adapts partly depended on the
total work done was it hard enough? and just as
dependent on the TYPE of work done.
If all you do is rep after rep in Zone 4 (like many
CrossFit WODs have you do, for instance), then you
are not going to increase your 1RM much at all.
Why not?
Because your body will be trying to make itself better
at working in Zone 4 not Zone 1.
You get good at what you do Chris
Extine (lifter at PDX Weightlifting, math
teacher, cool cat)
**When I was in Bulgaria** (read: California, at
the gym of Ivan Abadjiev and Alex Krychev) a few
weeks ago, in addition to having the time of my life
in the sun with great people and weightlifting, Ivan
Abadjiev gave us a private lecture about just this
concept. The primary point of which was that if you
want to get good at maxing out, you need to max
out.
In future articles I will discuss the details of how this
works in the body the details he was explaining
but the essence is that the body will only adapt to
meet the stresses you put on it no more.
Improving your heavy 1 rep maximum on the squat
requires certain and very specific kinds of
adaptations. You must attack each and every one of
them if you want to get stronger at the fastest rate
possible.
Among the stresses your body needs to deal with in
order to be bothered are:
A CNS adaptation to feeling heavy loads on the
body. This cant be understated. Your central
nervous system must learnhow to squat/lift
heavy. It isnt just about being stronger.
Get generally stronger duh.
Improve explosive power.
Perfect technique generally
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Perfect your ability to MAINTAIN technique when
the weights get heavy enough to scare you.
There are more, of course. But these are the big
ones I am always worried about with any lifter I
coach.
Not all of these are capable of being trained at the
same time or in the same way. That is where the
concept of working in different intensity zones comes
in, and makes sense.
To understand all of this, lets use my Squat Nemesis
workout as the example again.
First
You go to a 1RM. That puts you in Zone 1. Working
above 90% is imperative for gaining strength at the
high end. This zone is great at working the CNS and
causing general strength gains.
This is also the place were you work your brain. By
that I mean your brains ability to shut down the fear
response. It isnt as bad in squatting as it is on theOlympic lifts, but it still exists.
If your form breaks, you will miss your heaviest
weights. When you freak out, your form breaks.
When the weights are heavy, you freak out.
See that chain of events?
You gotta attack the last part of it. It is the driver of
the entire domino effect.
The weights being heavy and feeling heavy is not a
reason to freak out. But that is easier to say than
actually put into practice.
And that is the point. You must PRACTICE the act of
chilling out with heavy weights.
Second
Back off set time! You go down to the low end of
Zone 2, 70%, and you start working back up in sets
of 3 reps (some other programs might have you
doing 2s, others up to 5s the point is: do work,
son/daughter).
This is the zone where I want the majority of your
reps to be. That is because you are again workingthe CNS some (though not to the same level), you
are improving general strength, and you are causing
substantial fatigue to the body which as I said
above is the point.
These are also reps you can use very good technique
on. They should NOT be ugly. You might have had
to grind out a few of your heavy singles leading to
your max. But that should not be happening here.
Third
You drop to 50% of your 1RM and start doing sets
of 5 reps for speed and technical perfection. You areimproving explosive power, you are making technique
more ingrained. You are adding fuel to the fire of
your overall stress that is pushing your recovery
capacity down = good.
You see what I did there?
much of what I've learnedmuch of what I've learned
there to the way I teach.there to the way I teach.
Olympic Weightlifting is moreOlympic Weightlifting is more
like a Martial Art than it is likelike a Martial Art than it is like
other forms of Strengthother forms of Strength
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With just one workout, we covered all your bases.
VariationfortheOlympicWeightlifter
What I wrote above as the Squat Nemesis Program
works great, and I wouldnt change it up too much
unless you are already doing a ton of work already.
Sometimes I have lifters do what we call Mini-
Nemesis which is the same, but you drop the 5s atthe end.
That kind of variation makes sense when they have
already done 2 hours of work on the Olympic lifts,
and will be doing heavy clean/snatch pulls as well
after they squat.
The olympic lifts cover much of what the 5s are
there for except better.
That said, the 5s still show up a lot.
ComparisontoOtherSquatProgramsI know this is bound to be a question, so I figure I
will attack it now. What is the difference between
Squat Nemesis and something like Texas Method? Or
Smolov? 5/3/1? Or something similar (I am not
going to explain what these are here. If you dont
know, google is your friend.
Fundamentally, they all work for the same reason:
Lots of work at the main Intensity zone ranges: Zone
1, Zone 2, and a little in Zone 3. At the core, they all
work well, and have for a lot of people.
Just for fun, lets look at the differences. (Keep inmind these observations are exclusively based on my
personal experience using them with my own lifters
and the way in which we used them. It is more than
possible for people to NOT share my experience.)
Texas method squatting has a lot of benefits,
especially for beginners. However, it does have the
drawback of not being variable enough to work for
lifters who advancing. There ARE variants, dont take
me too harshly here. But I feel as though more work
with singles is important as you advance as well as
some kind of built in autoregulation. Plus, heavy 5s
do start to get in the way of your Olympic lifting, in
my opinion, and should be used sparingly.
Smolov is awesome but we have found it works
best for those early intermediate lifters who arent
squatting THAT much yet. For instance, I had most
success with Smolov on male lifters who were not
yet squatting over 300 pounds consistently. Once
they were pushing that 400 pound Olympic squat, it
started to be less effective.
5/3/1 is really a great programming concept. Of the
three, this is my favorite. The reason is that it has
built in autoregulation! I strongly believe that as you
progress, the ability to autoregulate is a must. And if
you dont have a coach with you at every workout
that can take over for your brain (and do this foryou) your program needs to have stop-gaps built
in. This has that, has work in all intensity zones, and
is something you can use as a rank beginner or a
more advanced lifter.
My Squat Nemesis program is like 5/3/1 in those two
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ways: Autoregulation; Multiple zone training.
How it is very different than 5/3/1 is its Bulgarian
esque tendencies: Lots of maxing and daily work (I
know, I know those are myths! .
This variation between 5/3/1 and what I have lifters
do is largely grown out of the fact that Wendler is a
powerlifter, and I am an Oly lifter. The WAY we squat
is even different. I dont want to get into this, but
the way we squat in weightlifting makes maxing out
daily an option that simply doesnt exist for apowerlifting squat or deadlift youd die.
In short
Other famous squat programs work because they
have very high volume and loads, and they spend
their training time in the most important intensity
zones.
My own program is only different in that it is highly
autoregulated (daily), and that allows for it to be
used by anyone with the exception of true rank
beginners who have no business maxing.
But I work with very few true beginners who have
no strength training background whatsoever. Most
people who come to me are either CrossFitters or
Athletes from others sports.
So a rank beginner program isnt appropriate most of
the time. They need more.
I MAY have them ONLY do the 3s and then 5s for a
month or so if I dont believe they can safely max
out on singles just yet. But that is becoming more
rare.
I used to be far more hesitant I am becoming lessso through experience.
Almostpointlesssidenote
It is funny how I have become LESS timid as I learn
more, have coached far more people, and progressed
as a coach. When I first started, I avoided maxes like
the plague, I kept the overall volume down, the load
was even lower, and we did all kinds of pre-hab
and corrective exercises.
I now push people to the brink of death.
Results are up.
Injuries are down.
And everyone is having more fun.
Crazy how some things work out
GoDeeper
This stuff can get far more complicated, and as you
progress it should. Just another one of those
annoying cases where sticking to the basics is far
harder than it looks.
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MATTY CHOUPure bad assery Nick! Now can we PLEASE
front squat some more at the gym?!
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NICK HORTONhahahaha! hey, why arent you in
the squat rack right now?
JOHANHave you ever encountered anyone that
simply responds better to higher reps?
When it comes to the slow lifts I have
always progressed the best when I do sets
of around 10 reps. When I did Westside
style training I gained the best when first
assistance exercise was the same as the
main exercise, but for 3-4 sets of 10.
When I did doggcrapp style training I was
strong as a bull (relatively to my strength
of course) in 1rm as well.
When I have focused more on 1rms, 3rms
and 5 rep sets however I stall fairly quickly
and then go no where. Reps quickly turn
into butt ugly horrible grinders. On contrast
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when doing 10 rep sets even the failure
rep usually feel technically sound.
I can also add that when I did texas
method my volume day ended up at 3 sets
of 5 with 91% of my 1rm, I guess that
indicates I am slow twitch dominant :/
So my question I guess is, is some people
just better of doing higher reps in squats?
NICK HORTONWell sort of.
It isnt that I have had lifters
respond to higher reps, per se
but even higher volume.
The struggle is that if you are
doing reps in a range that are TOO
high as the base or focus of your
training, you cant be in a high
enough Zone to do any good for
serioius 1RM strength gains.
What too high means is very
individual, so in that sense, yes,
some people need higher reps. So
back off sets at 70%+ may be
better with 5s than 3s. Even 8s if
they feel feisty.
But Id rather see more sets, than
more reps, so that you can push
the weight higher. but keep the
volume the same, AKA increase
load.
So if you were someone with a
100k max (for easy math!), and
were doing 4 sets of 10 with 80k
then thats 4x10x80 = 3,200 kilos
for your load for the workout
But if you did 10 sets of 4 reps
with 90k thats 10 x 4 x 90 = 3,600
kilos for your load for the day.
Now, that is a silly example, since
most people will have an even
greater difference between a 10 rep
vs 5 or lower rep set. But it makes
the point.
You need total work. Not
necessarily going to true failure or
something on every set.
What is interesting is that many of
the mid-range muscle fibers can be
made to ACT like faster twitch
muslce fibers over time if you work
them correctly.
Id rather you recruit these fibers in
Zone 2 and 1 with set after set of
weights you can move hard andfast, and do low enough reps that
you can do more sets and keep the
speed up.
In other words, you can make
yourself MORE fast twitch over time
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with work. Will you be like the
Olympic sprinters? No. But you will
be faster. And that is worth fighting
for.
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JOHANThanks for the reply.
The problem I have I think
is that because the spreadbetween my 1rm strength
and rep strength is so small
I end up being in zone 1 for
my 3 rep sets, I was doing
the mistake of grinding reps
as well and that combination
just toasted me right away.
Next time around I will do
5s instead of 3s and keep
the reps snappy or do 3s
but limit myself to around
85% of 1rm and do more
sets.
What is your take on
Poliquins ideas about
different types and how they
should train? If one cuts
through the meta-physical
bs this article is quite
interesting, when I do his
1rm followed by max reps
at 85% of 1rm test I am
spot on an earth type lifter
for lower body dominated
lifts.
http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMultimedia/Articles/Article/384/The_Five_Elements__A_New_Training_Paradigm.aspx
NICK HORTONI think there is
something to what he
is saying my
problem is that it
doesnt take seriously
enough how much
control you have over
your ability to change
a good chunk of your
muscle fibers to ACT
LIKE fast twitch
fibers.
You do want to train
fibers in ways that
they respond to best
that is ONE of your
goals.
The other is to get
any fiber than has
any ability what-so-
ever to change and
become faster to do
exactly that.
This goes back to
that you get good at
what you do
principle. Olympic
lifts. box jumps, etc,
work because they
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questions,lol
Yes, we do it at the end of
the workout before Pulls.
Basically, Oly lift forever
then squat forever then
pulls for about 5 minutes
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HARRYAwesome article.
ive been playing around with multiple zone
training and believe it to be very effective.
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NICK HORTONAwesome, Harry!
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MILESNick,
I really like the program. But I was waiting
the whole time for you to get to the
expected results part!
So, my high bar back squat 1RM is 300lbs
and my front squat max is 240. If I go
through three cycles of this program what
kind of increases could I expect?
NICK HORTONHonestly, that is the kind of thing I
like to shy away from. I know it is
common practice in the
fitness/strength industry to give
people expected results but I
find it remarkably misleading and
almost impossible to be truly
honest about.
You could have high end resutls or
low end. That will be based on all
those things that are highly unique
to you.
But If I say a number, a high end
number, that is the number people
EXPECT to hit. most wont. Most
arent at tthe high end.
But, just for shits and giggles, this
is a rather a normal range:
10k to 40k in 3 months IF you are
not truly advanced, you are doing
everything else right, like sleeping
and eating well, and all that shit.
My lifter Erik went from 160k to
195k in about 8 weeks on the BS
Dave (who is 42) added 20k to his
back squat in about that long
(might have been shorter)
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Neither were beginners far from
it.
Many other lifters did almost as
good, some do more like 2 to 5k
per month for a while. My goal is
no less than a 10k to 40k increase
on a liters total (on the oly lifts) per
year depending on age, gender,
genetics, etc. And the BS, FS, pulls,
etc are there to be pushed up in
support of that goal
clearly, there comes a point of
diminishing returns. Erik will never
again add 40k to his BS in 8 weeks.
He is already at 195 at a BW of 82.
So, that is totally unrealistic.
All Im saying is that I try to avoid
such discussions if I can help it on
purpose. Id rather explain HOW
and WHY it works, how to
implement it, and let the results
you get be the results you get. And
do all of that without unnecessarilyhigh (or even low) expectations
getting in the way.
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KEITHExcellent article. I think this program is
exactly what my squat has been needing.
Thanks for sharing!
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NICK HORTONSure thing, Keith! Let me know how
it goes!
WILL ARIASHey Nick, your site rocks, mister. Thanks
for sharing your knowledge. i used to
believe i wasnt built to squat after many
years of medical treatment, where the
prescription included staying away from
squat racks Anyway, to make the story
short, i decided to include squats in my
own training regime, against all theoverprotective medical advice. First part of
my plan was trying to learn how to do it
properly and started reading the books of
Mark Rippetoe and going to great strength
courses, such as Mark Buckleys FMA.
Anyway, best decision ever! It has been a
year since I started my squatting journey.
Ive been working in my joint mobility,
fascia realise and nerve system activation.
Once i made myself suited to squat with a
decent ROM, i began squatting with an
empty barbell and gradually i started to
add plates. Mi initial goal was to perform
10 reps with my own bodyweight. This
morning i bet my PB with 10 with 120%
my bodyweight (ass to grass or using a
low-box or a kettlebell as a point of
reference) Now i can honestly say i feel
proud of making the decision of proving
wrong that bunch orthopedists and physios
who prescribed rest instead of movement
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as the solution for my lumbar and hip
issues. Tonight, i want to say thank you
to you and other guys like Michael Boyle,
Gray Cook and Bret Contreras for showing
me how tackling dysfunction is the best
way to facilitate real functionality and
performance. Being healthier, fitter and
stronger is much more than jumping on
plyo boxes, doing burpies, juggling
kettlebells or hammering tyres. Nothing
against Crossfit, by the way. In fact, I find
it great as long as the performer doesnt
butcher the mechanics of the lifts, which
sadly is not always the case. However,
working in cruise control (50-50% between
cardio and resistance) never is going to
elevate maximum strength levels. It is
great to see you validate that point very
clearly.
Finally, what i want to express is the fact
that thanks to blokes like you, the iron
Samurai, today we can have access to
straight forward education. Thanks, Nick
(Before internet, it was all about Joe
Weider and Kennedy mags). And thanks for
reading me. From Melbourne (Australia),
Will Arias.PS. Oops, sorry, i forgot to ask you: After
reading Starting Strength: and Strong
enough? , i got clearly how Rippetoe
definitely prefers Low-bar squats over High
bar squats. His main reasons obviously are
the facts the low-bar squat allows to
manage a heavier load and more
recruitment of the posterior chain. However
he also says that Low-bar squats are
actually better for the spine. However, i find
difficult to agree in that last point. I believe
the high-suats are perfect combination or
the junction of two different worlds: Front
Squats and Low-bar Squats. Being yourself
and Oly lifter, may i have your opinionabout it? Cheers, mate.
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NICK HORTONHey Will!!
Thanks for the feedback, my man.
I really appreciate it!
As for you question on Low vs High
bar squats I think people make
too big a deal about it. If you are
an Oly lifter, it matters. Otherwise,it really doesnt.
I DID have a discussion about this
with Michael Hartman on our
Weightlifting Academy show once,
here is the episode:
http://www.weightliftingacademy.com/2012/02/29/ep-
3-pick-a-squat-any-squat/
SULAYMANGreat article Coach Horton!
Is it normal for back squat to stall while
Front squat increases? I.e been stuck on
the same daily max for BS for a month
now while i set prs (5 ibs )weekly on FS.
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Does this happen with your athletes? I
max on BS in the morning and max on FS
in the afternoon with back off sets 90% of
1rm for 30 reps.
Also how do you deal with nagging pains
from daily squatting? sore calves, hips,
vatus medialis etc
Look forward to more articles
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NICK HORTONHey Sulayman!
Yep, that is normal. Especially if
you have yet to become a truly
efficient front squatter. Most people
just havent front squatted enough
to have the lifts they are doing be a
true reflection of what they are
capable of given what they are
back squatting.
Also if you are only doing backoff sets with Front Squats, that will
also make a difference. More
volume on a lift will make that lift
go up faster most of the time.
We often alternate periods where
we focus on BS for a while, then on
FS for a while. It changes a lot.
As for your 2nd questions. More
rolling out with Lacrosse balls is
almost always good. Stretching
when needed. But the rolling out
religiously daily makes a big big
difference for most lifters.
BORGE FAGERLIAwesome article, coach! I have used
variations of this system with my own
lifters for a while now, an excellent
example is a 19-year old female powerlifter
with only 9 months of powerlifting
experience, who just broke two national
records and qualified for the worlds. High
frequency, singles, triples and some speed
work all auto-regulated.
Also see Christian Thibaeudaeu (sp?) using
heavy work-ups and speed set drops over
at T-nation.
I realize that olympic lifters want to stay in
certain weight classes, but if someone is
borderline i.e. finding it increasingly
difficult to make weight how would you
make them grow into a higher weight
class? Would you still use a variation of
this system, just adding more 5s or higher
rep work for volume (with less frequency)
or would you do higher reps exclusively?
I like the layering approach where you hit
different qualities in one workout, thats
why Im asking, but I fear that a volume
approach for hypertrophy would make
recovery from daily squatting/front
squatting difficult.
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Also in line with your earlier back squat
post for a taller lifter with back issues,
could this template work with front squats
only?
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NICK HORTONBorge!
Finally answering this
Ill answer your last question first
because it is easy: Yes. It works
with FSs only. In fact many of my
lifters do that.
Now for the Hypertrophy question:
I wont alter to program much since
it has plenty of volume for
Hypertrophy if anything, just do
more 3s and/or 5s in Zone 2 and
a few more 5s in Zone 3
But really, most guys in my gym
are also doing the Oly lifts for very
high volume and pulls daily.
So their volume is over the top.
More than enough to grow on.
At that point, food is the issue.
They just need to eat more and
they will almost always get bigger.
If anything, high volume programs
like this make it hard for me to
keep my lifters small unless they
are really into dieting (my lifterBrandon is a good example at 62k)
Most of my lifters will gain an entire
weightclass in the first year if they
are males and eating enough.
Im a big believer that body comp
of any kind is primarily driven by
diet. Performance is driven by your
workouts. To gain or lose weight
requires 1st a dietary change. The
workouts may not need to be
altered at all assuming they are
smartly written.
And the converse seems to be true
as well you can perform and do
amazing things with a shitty diet.
You may not look like a
bodybuilder, but you might snatch a
house.
Obviously in an ideal world, you
have both. But hypertrophy
requires only two things really:
volume + boatloads of food. This
program has the volume next up
food.
SHELDON KREGERWell, this is indeed how I added 100 lbs to
my front squat in 8 months. PDX
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NICK HORTONTrue Fact my brother!
And (for those reading) Sheldon is
the Autoregulation MASTER. He
basically does whatever the fuck he
wants, when he wants (I do what I
want!) but all with an eye towardwhat his body is telling hiim, and
with the constraint of the basic
programs Ive outlined and he
has not only gained a crap-ton on
his squats, he has also gotten all
bulky and manly and shit
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ELKEGreat article, and lots of knowledge to be
found on your site. Thank you.
Would you modify the program for a
master lifter, especially in regard to the five
weekly workouts? Ive been Olympic lifting
for 5 years, usually work out three times
per week.
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NICK HORTONIm glad you like the site! Thanks!
Your question: Sometimes yes,
sometimes no.
I think with Masters lifters the REAL
constraint is your LIFE, not
anything related to your body. So
with lifters who work a lot of hours
and dont sleep well, or have a
family they need to be home for all
time yes. I will dial it back to
whatever they have time for.
But if you have time? I will kill
you.
My lifter Cyndi is 42 years old and
trains like a maniac 5 days a weekand has been for 15 months now.
Shes kicking ass. She IS a bit of an
outlier (I admit) as she was a
competitve bodybuilder before, so
she had a great base coming in.
But, I have a lot of lifters in the
masters classes doing WAY more
than most believe is possible.
ARNOUDHey nick, great article. Would you
recommend the same approach for the
olympic lifts (maybe doubles instead of
triples)? How would you add clean or
snatch pulls. Do you recommend those at
all?
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NICK HORTONYes, I like triples instead of 5s
most of the time for back off sets
on Oly lifts.
It is VERY common to see on my
White Board:
Snatch 1RM + Hvy 3
Or
Snatch 1RM + 33 @ 80% +
or something to that effect
So it is like doing the first 2 parts
of Nemesis, but dropping the
speed sets since EVERY set on
an Olympic lift is a speed set, lol
As for pulls I am very very
careful with those when it comes to
beginners.
I never allow beginner to go heavy
at all. And a pull for them is just
going through the motions of a
snatch and stopping at the hip
with NO explosive hip extension.
Slow, controlled, exact positions
Now, for my more advanced lifters?
They pull DAILY, and heavy enough
to break form, and with a big
explosion at the top.
Clean pulls twice a week, Snatchpulls twice a week, RDLs once
That is a lot of pulling. And if I
didnt already trust their form, Id
never allow them to do this.
I think I need to do a video on my
opinions about pulls, lol
JOSH
Hi Nick,I have done one day of the squat nemeis
program and knowing my body as I do, I
have a few questions for you.
I get the impression that I will be in a
serious hole by day 3 of a week an I can
imagine my 1RM dwindling as the week
goes on. I am assuming that a couple days
off will allow a certain amount of recovery
and the 1RM bump up slightly week on
week. But coupled with cleans in the same
format my neuro muscular system (NMS) is
goin to be fried. Giving myself 1 de-load
week wud give me a chance to kick back
and get the NMS re-juvinated, but if I am
still 1RM lifting everyday it doesnt really
get a rest from intensity at all??
From what you have seen with your guys
do 1RM gradually decrease throughout the
week, then bump up the following week?
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truly necessary.
The biggest issue isnt your body, it
is your psychological NEED to see a
big 1RM all the time. Freaking out
when you go a week of crappy
singles is normal, but must be
avoided. Push through, as long as
your form is good, and you arent
stupid about it, you will be safe and
injury free so that isnt really a
worry. The only worry is your ego
Accept upwards of a 20% drop of
your 1rm for days on end, even a
few weeks on end.
The body will adapt 90% of the
time and bounce back eventually
much stronger, and you will hit
PRs.
But if you delaod to early, you are
never forcing this serious
adaptation to occure, and so it
never does.
It is a very different mode of
thinking about training shifting
from a linear mindset to a multi-
linear mindset. But it works
wonders if you are willing to put
the ego up on the shelf for a while.
Again I am NOT advocating
stupidity. Form is king always. Your
1RM is the heaviest lift you can do
with good form, not the heaviest
lift you can do. There is a
difference.
And rant over, LOL
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SUBHOMSIKALIENOutstanding stuff. Could I apply the same
programming (1RM
Hvy 3, 25) to powerlifting in lifts such as
the bench press?
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NICK HORTONHonestly, I wouldnt do this with
bench but then again, I dont
work with Powerlifters, so Im not
sure.
Im always worried that the upper
body simply cant take what the
lower body can and stay injury free
If anything, Id not actually max
out with bench, and focus on the
back offs more.
Just a thought, but worth an
experiment!
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SEANHi Nick,
Awesome article. I just started this today.
Im doing a competition in 8 weeks (from
this past Saturday).I was going to run this
as is for the next 3 weeks, then de-load 1.
Going into the last 4 weeks before the
comp, I was thinking of running something
similar, but with more of a focus on front
squats. How do you usually set up squats
leading up to a competition? Ill be able to
squat pretty much everyday, and do
competition lifts 3 days/week most weeks.
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NICK HORTONSean!
How is it going so far? Your contest
should be coming up soon, right?
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SEANThanks for the response
Nick. Trainings been up and
down, I hurt myself a couple
times and went on a last-
minute vacation. I was
thinking of not doing it until
I hit a C&J PR at a coaching
course. Aiming for 77/100
@77, went 67/92 at my first
competition in Feb.
Right now Im squatting 6
days/week, Back, front,
front, repeat. Not doing the
speed sets, and the second
front squat day Im doing
jerk drives for triples after
the max instead of full front
squats
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NICK HORTONOoh, body weight
snatch! Hell ya
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RYAN KOTLEWSKIHey Nick,
I was just wondering what other lifts you
guys do while youre on this squat cycle?
Do you guys squat in the morning, and
then do your oly lifts in the afternoon? Do
you have it cycles, such as back squat,
with cleans, front squats with snatch etc.
Any other info would be much appreciated!
Ryan
NICK HORTONAs a rule, my lifters squat at the
end of the workout after doing a
full hour or 2 on the olympic lifts.
Our workouts are LONG, LOL
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It is not uncommon for my more
serious lifters to spend 15 to 20
hours a week lifting.
Hell my lifter Cyndi is 42 years
old and does 2 times a day
workouts for a total of about 20 to
25 hours a week of lifting. She is
HARD CORE
there are times we will front squatfirst, then Oly lift, the do the Back
Squat nemesis let me tell you, I
get a LOT of death threats.
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SINAHey, Nick,
I just started using your squat nemesis
program. It takes me just over an over,
with an active warmup, to get through a
workout. Thats about all the time I haveduring the week for a workout. My
question is: when would one make time for
the Olympic lifts?
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NICK HORTONWell, there is no doubt that this program is
at the high end as far as athletic training is
concerned. And that is the point.
there are many squat programs out there
that are good, but dont work as fast
and part of the reason is they are scaleddown, and my program isnt.
My lifters tend to lift for about 2 to 3 hours
a night, so yes it is a bit nutters!!
If you are really struggling for time, then
you either need to prioritize and just focus
on one or the other for a while. Good
option.
Or
alternate days
Or
Just snatch and squat (thats a great
option)
Or
cut the Nemesis routine short and do just
the 1rm + a fast 33 sets as back offs,
dump the 5s completely.
Honestly, I like to either just focus on one
thing at a time for a while or do a
snatch/squat combo for a while.
KYLEHey Nick,
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I was looking around online and stumbled
upon this, and Ive tried it out for the past
2 weeks (on my 3rd week, doing 1rms
only) and sofar my backsquat has gone
down
I was previously around 210-220lbs (I
know, Im horribly weak. 57.5 at 135lbs,
which would be alright if I was a girl haha.)
but I missed 205lbs today for a single after
2 days off and lots of time away from
school and lots of sleep. Does the magic
begin this week? Id hate to bash on your
program, but Im getting a bit worried
here, as many people whove done this
have been increasing their squat for a while
now. My front squat has gone up 15lbs
(10lbs between 2 workouts, then 5lbs a
week later)from 155lbs-170lbs.
What am I doing wrong?!? Haha.
Ive been alternating Snatch/Clean
Variation/Jerk Variation/Squat and Snatch
Variation/Clean and Jerk/Squat during my
time on this program.
Thanks!
NICK HORTONLOL,
Here are my thoughts based on the
hundreds of people who have done
this
1. Your goal is to get stronger, and
your front squat went up quite a
bit. So you did.
2. It may take a while for that
strength to translate to the backsquat. Totally normal. Some people
have the opposite happen.
3. Progress on this is the
OPPOSITE of linear so just
because your squat sucks one day
means little. you are looking for
STATISTICAL gains.
That is, take averages over the
week and see if that has gone up.
(This only works when you are
squatting often. It doesnt make
sense to average 3 workouts.
Average at least 5, but Id prefer
10+ in each comparison group)
4. On a program like mine, taking a
few days off almost always makes
you weaker! (weird I know, lol)
There is complex science behind
this, but it is part of the point of
the program and why my lifters
(and every world champion) often
train the day before a contest.
A proper deload/taper is NOT the
same as rest that is a key point
5. Different people respond on
different time-lines. Some people
see gains as quickly as within 7
days. Others it takes multiple
weeks. No biggie, just keep
plugging away.
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If you were in my gym, and I saw
an increase in your Front Squat like
that, Id be very happy. Thats a
great improvement and proves that
you have indeed gotten stronger.
You just need to keep at it so that
it starts to translate over to other
lifts.
WAIT!
Just went back and read your
comment to make sure I didnt
miss anything and I DID
Did you say you are ONLY doing
the 1rms?
Because that would be the first
thing Id change. Id make you do
the FULL nemesis program with 3s
and 5s every single day, 7 days a
week, alternating front squat and
back squat.
Minimum 4 days a week
but no matter what, do the back
off sets. The ARE the program.
I will often take a rank beginner
and they will only 1rm for 2 or 3
weeks but after that, its the full
meal deal.
KYLESorry haha, I forgot to
mention that I already did 2
weeks of the Nemesis
program (with the heavy
triples and 5s) and I felt
awful and tired every day so
after 2 weeks I went to the
slight deload/taper/week of
only 1rms. On friday I
managed to hit 215lbs in the
backsquat again for the first
time in a week haha. I was
squatting to a 1rm 2 weeks
prior to starting the nemesis
program, when I finally got
stuck at 215lbs.
So 5 weeks of squatting to a
1rm atleast 3-5 times a week
the first 2 weeks, then 5
days a week
(BS/FS/BS/FS/BS) for 2
weeks of the loading phase
with the triples and 5s, then
one week of just the 1rms.
So generally, Id have to
assume that if it takes 5-6
weeks for my backsquat to
turn around and give me an
increase, it really wouldnt be
the most optimal path forme, although, Id assume
itd be the most reliable.
Being a student still in
school, I find it super tough
to squat + o-lift every day,
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get my work done, eat
enough and sleep. So going
to a 1rm every day burns me
out a lot, especially after
tons of lifting prior, and
assistance exercises
afterwards. Although I will
still try at this next week and
hopefully see some
improvement sometime
soon. Being 10lbs shy of a
225lbs/100kg squat for a
month is never a good
feeling haha.
Also, I had this crazy idea
Could I do O
lifts+Squats+Madcow as a 5
day a week workout? By
that, I mean something like
this:
O lifts and squats every
single day,
Madcow for Benchpress,
Row, and Push Press, Mon-
Wed-FriAnd if you dont know what
madcow is, the format goes
along the lines of:
Mon: Squat, Bench, Row (or
powerclean) 55 (work up
to a heavy set of 5)
Wed: Squat (lighter),
Press/Push Press, Deadlift
(or highpull) 55 (working
up to a max set of 5)
Fri: Squat, Bench, Row/PC
45, 13 (5lbs or ~2%above weight of max set on
monday) 18 (75% of
heavy triple)
Then use the weight for the
heavy triple on friday as the
heavy 5 on monday for
Squat, Bench and Row.
Now, would it be possible to
do Madcow for the bench,
pushpress and row, while O-
lifting and squatting every
day? I know it sounds crazy
and itd probably mean 10+
hours in the gym a week,but could I still increase my
other lifts on a linear basis
as well as squatting and o-
lifts every day without
completely destroying my
body?
Thanks for all the help!
DARREN SIGGINSReally simple but so clever, started today I
got 117.5 x 1 front squat then up to 100 x3 for 2 sets
If you feel really tired on a certain day
would you still go ahead with the maxes
then the volume or what would you have
an athlete do?
Would the rest negatively or positively
affect the program in the long run in your
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NICK HORTONthats an important question. And
the answer is, always do as much
as you can, no matter how you
feel.
(Within reasons, of course! I dont
want you doing something stupidand hurting yourself.)
A program like this is DESIGN to
cause you to have bad days
where you feel like crap. Your goal
is to push it anyway.
Yes, often that means the max
will be rather low, but that isnt the
point. the point isnt the weight on
the bar, per se, but the EFFORT you
put into your workouts.
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ANDERSI started doing squat nemesis every day
about a week ago and my knees have
gotten incredibly stiff (at least it feels like
that) at the point where it hurts to squat
even without load before a thorough warm
up. I