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    Understanding

    Position in Welding

    Walter J. Sperko, P. E.

    Sperko Engineering Services, Inc.

    4803 Archwood Dr.

    Greensboro, NC 27406

    www.sperkoengineering.com

    [email protected]

    FAX 336-674-0202

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    This presentation is copyrighted

    by Sperko Engineering

    General permission is granted for use of this

    presentation including printing thereof for

    educational purposes provided credit is

    given to Sperko Engineering. Use of the figures herein in any other

    publication without specific written

    permission is prohibited.

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    This presentation is copyrighted

    by Sperko Engineering

    The primary purpose of this presentation is

    twofold:

    Make sure that code users understand the

    difference between testing positions and

    production welding positions

    Help users understand how to read the figures

    that define production welding positions shown

    on the next page.

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    Production Welding Positions

    Groove Welds Fillet Welds

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    Standard Test Positions

    Positions 1G, 3G, 6G, 2F, 5F, etc. are

    specially defined standard positions

    used for testing. They are properly

    referred to as Test Positions. Similar

    positions are found in ISO 6947

    identified as PA, PC, PG, etc.

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    Standard Testing Positions

    Test positions are discreetly defined

    positions of test coupons that are used

    when mostly when testing welders.

    These positions have tolerance of 15

    from the defined horizontal planes and

    5 from a defined vertical or inclined

    plane. See QW-120

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    Testing Position 1G/PA

    15

    Weld Axis Horizontal

    Plate Horizontal

    5

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    Test Position 2G/PC

    Plates Vertical

    Weld Axis

    Horizontal

    15

    5

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    Test Position 3F/PF or PG

    5

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    Test Position 6G/HL045 or JL045

    455

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    Test Positions are Discreetly

    Defined

    Because of tolerance limits on test positions,

    positions in between test positions are undefined!

    That is, a weld that is inclined 22 uphill and

    rotated 36 about its axis has no G or F

    position. Such a position, however, may be

    encountered during production welding.

    Production welding positions, therefore, need to

    be defined contiguously.

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    Test Positions Qualify Welders

    for Specific Welding Positions

    Test Positions

    Welding PositionsTranslations from test positions to welding positions are

    made in the construction codes. QW-461.9 is typical.

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    Test PositionsWelding Positions

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    Welding PositionsNote to table:

    (1) Positions of welding as shown in QW-461.1 and QW-461.2

    F = Flat

    H = Horizontal

    V = VerticalO = Overhead

    (2) Pipe 2-7/8 in outside diameter and over.

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    Welding positions for groove

    welds are defined by the

    following diagram.

    NOTEWelding Position Diagrams are

    contiguous.

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    Welding Positions for Groove Welds

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    Tabulation showing transition

    points between welding positionsTabulation of Positions of Groove Welds

    Position Diagram Reference Inclination of Axis Rotation of Face

    Flat A 0 to 15 150 to 210

    HorizontalB 0 to 15 80 to 150

    210 to 280

    Overhead C 0 to 80 0 to 80

    210 to 360

    Vertical D 15 to 80 80 to 280

    E 80 to 90 0 to 360

    How this table and the diagram on the previous page work are shown in the

    following diagrams

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    Lets start with the

    Flat Position

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    Welding Positions

    Tabulation of Positions of Groove Welds

    Position Diagram Reference Inclination of Axis Rotation of Face

    Flat A 0 to 15 150 to 210

    Horizontal B 0 to 15 80 to 150

    210 to 280

    Overhead C 0 to 80 0 to 80

    210 to 360

    Vertical D 15 to 80 80 to 280

    E 80 to 90 0 to 360

    How this table and the diagram on the previous page work are shown in thefollowing diagrams

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    Flat Positions Axis Inclination

    15

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    Start at Nominal Flat Position

    Face of weld is up

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    Flat Upward Inclined Limit

    15

    Weld may

    incline upward

    to a limit of 15

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    Flat Upward Inclined Limit

    15

    But the welder

    could be traveling

    down the incline. . .

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    FlatDownwardLimit Is Implied

    15

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    Welding Positions

    Tabulation of Positions of Groove Welds

    Position Diagram Reference Inclination of Axis Rotation of Face

    Flat A 0 to 15 150 to 210

    Horizonta B 0 to 15 80 to 150

    210 to 280

    Overhead C 0 to 80 0 to 80

    210 to 360

    Vertical D 15 to 80 80 to 280

    E 80 to 90 0 to 360

    How this table and the diagram on the previous page work are shown in thefollowing diagrams

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    Flat Position --Rotation About Axis180

    0

    3030

    150

    210

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    Flat Rolled Limit Counterclockwise

    30

    150 180

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    Flat Rotated Limits Not

    Considering Inclination

    60

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    Flat Downhill Limit Rotated

    15

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    Composite Flat Position Ranges

    30

    60

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    Horizontal Rotates to where the

    plate is perpendicular to the ground

    30

    Horizontal rotates

    clockwise . .

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    Horizontal Position Rotated

    Limit

    30

    Horizontal ends

    here. . . .

    10

    90

    280

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    Test Position 2G/PC

    Plates Vertical

    Weld Axis

    Horizontal

    15

    5

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    Horizontal 2G/PC !!!!

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    80

    280

    Overhead Position

    160 range

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    Basic Overhead

    Face of weld

    is overhead!!!

    0

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    Basic Overhead End View

    Face of weld

    is overhead 0

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    Overhead Partial Rotation

    End View

    Face of weld

    is overhead

    0

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    Face of weld

    is overhead

    Overhead Partial Rotation

    Isometric View

    0

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    Overhead Maximum Rotation

    Isometric View

    0

    280

    Face of weld

    On this side

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    Basic Overhead for Inclined Axis

    Face of weld

    is overhead

    0

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    Overhead Inclined Axis Rotation

    00

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    Overhead 4G/PE !!!!

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    Vertical Position Part 1

    65 Range of Inclination

    From 15 to 80.

    Face of weld is up

    15

    80

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    Vertical Position Part 1

    Until reaching 80

    80

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    Vertical Position Part 2When the E portion

    of the

    diagram is reached80

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    Vertical Position Part 3

    80

    280

    200 Rangeof Rotation

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    Vertical Position Part 3

    Start here with inclination

    Uphill or Downhill 15

    Face of weld upward

    15

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