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Health Care Reform:Health Care Reform:After The 2008 ElectionAfter The 2008 Election
Presented by
Humphrey TaylorChairman, The Harris Poll
Harris Interactive
April 16, 2008
U.S. Chamber Washington, DC
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Agenda
What public thinks
What business managers think
The Case for Reform:
- What does America get for the money it spends?
- how US compares with other countries
What will Health Care Reform look like (eventually)
How will Health Care Reform be achieved?
When will reform happen?
And then what?
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Most People Think Health Care and Health Insurance Should Be Entitlements (2003 Data)
Not Sure
Kind ofProduct or
Service
Entitlement 65%
23%
12%
Base: All Adults
Source: Harris Interactive Health Care News, October 27, 2003
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The Public Strongly Favors Fundamental Changes to the System
Not Sure
The healthcare system has so muchwrong with it that WE NEED TO
COMPLETELY REBUILD IT
There are some good things in ourhealthare system but FUNDAMENTAL
CHANGES ARE NEEDED to make itwork better
On the whole, the healthcare systemworks pretty well and ONLY MINOR
CHANGES ARE NECESSARY to makeit work better
50%
31%
6%
Base: All Adults
13%
Source: Harris Interactive, Strategic Health Perspectives, 2007
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Four Out of Five People Think Total Cost of Health Care Is Too High
“Thinking again about health care in the country as a whole: Are you generally satisfied or dissatisfied with the total cost of health care in this country?”
Base: All Adults
Not Sure
Dissatisfied
Satisfied 17%
81%
2%
Source: Gallup Poll, November 2007
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Two-To-One Majority Believes It Is Responsibility of Federal Government to Make Sure Everyone Has Health Insurance“Do you think it is the responsibility of the federal government to make sure all Americans have health care
coverage, or is that not the responsibility of the federal government?”
Base: All Adults
Not Sure
Is not responsibility of federalgovernment
Is responsibility of federalgovernment
3%
33%
64%
Source: Gallup Poll, November 2007
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Most Republicans Think the U.S. Health Care System is the Best in the World; Democrats Disagree
Do you think that in general the U.S. has the best health care system or are there other countries with better health care systems?
Total
Party ID
Republican Democrat Independent
% % % %
U.S. has the best 45 68 32 40
Other countries have better
39 19 52 46
Don’t know / Refused
15 13 16 14
Base: All Adults
Source: Harris Interactive and Harvard School of Public Health, 2008
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U.S. Seen As “Best” on Quality and Waiting Times but not on Access or Cost
Thinking about the countries I have just mentioned, would you say that in general the United States has a better health care system or a worse health care system than these countries when it comes to:
Total
U.S. System Is
Better Worse
Quality of care that patients receive
% 55 16
Waiting times to see specialists or be admitted to the hospital
% 53 16
Making sure everyone can get affordable health care
% 26 52
Controlling health care costs
% 21 56
Base: All Adults
Source: Harris Interactive
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Only a Minority Want New Government-Run System to Replace System Based Mainly on Private Insurance“Which of the following approaches for providing health care in the United States would you prefer: replacing
the current health care system with a new government run health care system, or maintaining the current system based mostly on private health insurance?”
Not Sure
Maintain (PrivateInsurance)
Replace PresentSystem 41%
48%
11%
Source: Gallup Poll, November 2007
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Most Americans Think That the Country Spending More Money on Health Care Would Be Good
BUT
1. They believe there is a lot of waste, inefficiency and fraud in the system now
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2. They don’t want to pay much more out-of-pocket or in taxes.
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H A R R I S I N T E R A C T I V E
Large Majority Wants Health Care Reform
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No consensus on the specifics- Role of government
- Role of employers
- How to pay for it
- Level of tiering, etc.
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Americans Want Universal Coverage But What They Don't Want Makes Reform Very Difficult
They don’t want:-
- Much higher taxes
- Higher out-of-pocket costs
- To damage the economy or increase unemployment
- Bigger government
- Rationing
- Reduced quality
- Reduced choice
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Very Few Employers Believe Healthcare System Works WellWhich of the following statements comes closest to expressing your overall view of
the healthcare system in this country?
2000 2007
% %
On the whole the healthcare system works pretty well and only minor changes are necessary to make it work better
24 14
There are some good things in our healthcare system, but fundamental change is needed to make it work better
66 70
Our healthcare system has so much wrong with it that we need to completely rebuild it
10 16
Don’t know 2 -
- No respondents Source: Harris Interactive Strategic Health Perspectives 2007
Base: All Employees
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Most Corporate Benefits’ Managers Not Feeling A Lot Of Pressure To Cut Costs
How much pressure do you feel from top management to cut costs in the health benefits area?
Employers who provide coverage %
A great deal of pressure 16
Some pressure 42
Not much pressure 25
No pressure at all 16
Not sure 1
Source: Harris Interactive Strategic Health Perspectives 2007
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No Consensus Among Employers On Who, If Anyone, Should Be Responsible for Universal CoverageIn your opinion, who should be primarily responsible for making sure that all Americans have
healthcare?
%
Each individual or family 28
Federal government 37
State government 15
Employers 4
Other 8
No one 2
Not sure 6
Source: Harris Interactive Strategic Health Perspectives 2007
Base: All Employers
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Few Employers Support Government Insuring Their Employees
How well does each of the following statements describe your company’s position on employer-sponsored healthcare? (Those very or somewhat well)
%
We have to stay involved in health benefits otherwise the government will take over healthcare and our employees will not be well served
61
Healthcare is not our company’s core competency and we would welcome any opportunity to transfer the responsibility to the government`
18
Healthcare is not our company’s core competency and we would welcome any opportunity to transfer the responsibility to individual employees
41
Source: Harris Interactive Strategic Health Perspectives 2007
Base: All employers who provide coverage
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H A R R I S I N T E R A C T I V E
With or Without “Reform” the “System” Will Continue to Change Rapidly (A)
• New medical technology
• Erosion of employer-provided coverage
• Aging of baby boomers
• Obesity epidemic
• Growing focus on multiple chronic conditions
• Retail clinics and $4Generics
And More …….
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With or Without “Reform” the “System” Will Continue to Change Rapidly (B)
• The quality movement
• Price (and quality) transparency
• Health Information Technology (HIT)
• State legislation and reform
• Focus on cost-effectiveness of care
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Sources: Annual Reports of Social Security and Medicare Board of Trustees, CBO
$30 Trillion +Unfunded Liability?
What The Candidates Are Not Talking About — But The Next President Should
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One Result of Current Trends: Increased Productivity
The demand for medical care – particularly for age-related conditions – will increase much faster than the supply of physicians.
So
(Somehow!) The system will provide more care with fewer physicians (per 100,000 people).
But we haven’t figured out how best to do that.
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You All Know Americans Spend Much More $s On Health Care Than Anyone Else
I have always been puzzled by the question.
What do we get for our money?
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H A R R I S I N T E R A C T I V E
Not Longer Life Expectancy41 Countries Now Have Longer Life Expectancy Than US
U.S. ranks #42
20 years earlier it ranked #11
Countries ahead of us include most developed countries - Jordan and the Cayman Islands
U.S. life expectancy has been rising but more slowly than many other countries
Source: U.S. Census Bureau and National Center for Health Statistics
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Not Better Infant MortalityInternational Comparison (1999)
3.1
3.4
3.4
5.5
5.5
5.6
6.4
7.1
0.1 1.1 2.1 3.1 4.1 5.1 6.1 7.1 8.1
Hong Kong
Japan
Sweden
Ireland
New Zealand
Portugal
Cuba
USA - Total
Source: National Center to Health Statistics, 2007
RANK
1
2
3
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26
28
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Not More DoctorsNumber of Practicing Physicians per 1,000 Populationin 2004
3.63.4 3.4
3.2
2.62.4 2.3 2.2 2.1 2
0.0
1.0
2.0
3.0
4.0
Netherlands France Germany OECDMedian
Australia UnitedStates
UnitedKingdom
NewZealand
Canada Japan
Source: OECD
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Not More Hospital BedsNumber of Acute Care Hospital Beds per 1,000 Population in 2004
8.4
6.4
3.8 3.7 3.6 3.63.2 3 2.8 2.8
0.0
1.0
2.0
3.0
4.0
5.0
6.0
7.0
8.0
9.0
Japan Germany France OECDMedian
UnitedKingdom
Australia NewZealand
Canada Netherlands UnitedStates
Source: OECD
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Not More Doctors VisitsAverage Annual Number of Physician Visits Per Capita in 2004
13.8
6.76.1 6.1 6
5.3 5.3
3.93.2
0.0
2.0
4.0
6.0
8.0
10.0
12.0
14.0
16.0
Japan France Canada OECDMedian
Australia Netherlands UnitedKingdom
UnitedStates
NewZealand
Source: OECD
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Not More Surgical ProceduresIn-Patient Surgical Procedure Per 1000 Population (2002)
88
75
97
98
110
133
0 20 40 60 80 100 120 140
U.S.
OECD Average
Germany
Switzerland
Ireland
Austria
Source: OECD/McKinsey Jan 2007
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“The United States spent … nearly six times as much as the OECD average (on “administration and insurance”) … because of its unique multiple-payor system and the complexities of administering Medicare, Medicaid and private-insurance products”.
Source: McKinsey, January 2007
Much Higher Administrative Costs
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Not Better Outcomes (1)Kidney Transplant 5-year Relative Survival Rate
100104 104 106
113
0
20
40
60
80
100
120
United States United Kingdom New Zealand Australia Canada
Source: P.S. Hussey, et al, Health Affairs, 2004
Standardized Performance on Quality Indicator
100=Worst Result; Higher Score=Better Results
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Not Better Outcomes (2)Asthma Mortality Rate, Ages 5-39(Note: Years vary from 2000-2004)
0.4900.457
0.370
0.300 0.3000.240
0.1600.127 0.110
0.00
0.25
0.50
0.75
1.00
UnitedKingdom
UnitedStates
Australia France NewZealand
Japan Germany Netherlands Canada
Source: OECD
Per 100,000 people
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Not Better Outcomes (3)Deaths Due to Surgical or Medical Mishaps per 100,000 Population in 2004
0.7
0.6
0.5 0.5 0.5
0.4 0.4
0.2 0.2
0.0
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
0.8
UnitedStates
Germany Canada France UnitedKingdom
Australia OECDMedian
Japan Netherlands
Source: OECD
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Not Better Outcomes (4)US Slips in Ranking on “Preventable Deaths” to #19
2002-2003 Rank 1997-1998 Rank 1. France 1 2. Japan 2 3. Australia 4 4. Spain 3 5. Italy 6 6. Canada 7 7. Norway 10 8. Netherlands 8 9. Sweden 510. Greece 911. Austria 1212. Germany 1113. Finland 1614. New Zealand 1415. Denmark 1316. United Kingdom 1817. Ireland 1918. Portugal 1719. United States 15
Source: Ellen Nolte and C. Martin McKee, Measuring the Health o Nations; updating an earlier analysis. Health Affairs, Jan/Feb 2008
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Not Better Outcomes (5)Improvement (Percentage Decline) in “Amenable Causes of Death” Between 1997/98 and 2002-03 Lower in the United States Than in other 18 Countries Studied
% Decline (Improvement)
Ireland 23Austria 22United Kingdom 21Finland 20Australia 19Norway 19Portugal 19Italy 17New Zealand 17Netherlands 16Germany 16France 14Canada 14Japan 13Greece 13Spain 12Denmark 11Sweden 7United States 4
Source: Ellen Nolte and C. Martin McKee, Measuring the Health o Nations; updating an earlier analysis. Health Affairs, Jan/Feb 2008
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EIGHT OF TEN COMMON DISEASES ARE MORE PREVALENT IN U.S. THAN IN 10 EUROPEAN COUNTRIESDiagnosed prevalence of ten conditions among non-institutionalized adults aged 50
and older (U.S. compared to Austria, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland)
United States Europe By how much US Prevalence exceeds
European Prevalence
% %
Heart disease 21.8 11.4 91%
High blood pressure 50.0 32.9 52%
High cholesterol 21.7 19.6 11%
Stroke / cerebrovascular disease
5.3 3.5 51%
Diabetes 16.4 10.9 50%
Chronic lung disease 9.7 5.4 80%
Asthma 4.4 4.3 2%
Arthritis 53.8 21.3 152%
Osteoporosis 5.0 7.8 -36%
Cancer 12.2 5.4 126% Mean excess of US prevalence over European prevalence: 58%Source: Kenneth E. Thorpe et al, Differences in Disease Prevalence as a Source of US-European Health Spending Gap, health Affairs, October 2, 2007 (and calculations by H. Taylor)
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Not More/Better HITOverall Country Comparisons on the Use of HIT
8783
72
59
32
19
8
0
25
50
75
100
NZ UK AUS NET GER US CAN
Percent Reporting 7 or More Out of 14 Functions*
Count of 14: EMR, EMR access other doctors, outside office, patient; routine use electronic ordering tests, prescriptions, access test results, access hospital records; computer for reminders, Rx alerts, prompt tests results; easy to list diagnosis, medications, patients due for care.
Source: 2006 Commonwealth Fund International Health Policy Survey of Primary Care Physicians (Harris Interactive)
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Not More P4PPrimary Care Doctors’ Reports of Any Financial Incentives Targeted on Quality of Care
95
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58
43 41
30
0
25
50
75
100
UK NZ AUS NET GER CAN US
Receive of have potential to receive payment for: clinical care targets, high patient ratings, managing chronic disease/complex needs, preventive care, or QI activities.
Source: 2006 Commonwealth fund International Health Policy Survey of Primary Care Physicians (Harris Interactive)
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However (!) - Americans Have Relatively Short Waiting Time For Elective/Non-Emergency Surgery
Germany
USA
New Zealand
Australia
Netherlands
United Kingdom
Canada
28%
37%
44%
45%
48%
57%
65%
Percentage of adults who needed non-emergency surgery who hade to wait more than one month
Source: Harris Interactive / The Commonwealth Fund, 2007
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U.S. System More Unpopular Than Systems in Six Other Countries
USA
Germany
Australia
New Zealand
United Kingdom
Canada
Netherlands
16%
20%
24%
26%
26%
26%
42%
Percentage of adults who say “system works pretty well and only minor changes are necessary”
Source: Harris Interactive / The Commonwealth Fund, 2007
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What The Data Tell Us About The US Health Care System Compared to Most Other Western Democracies
It is
• By far the most expensive
• The most inequitable
• The least efficient
• One of the most unpopular
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Even the U.S. Health Insurance Industry Agrees
“The U.S. does not perform as well on a number of … health outcomes and system measures as many other industrialized nations”.
“European nations with various approaches all manage to offer universal coverage at a lower cost and often with better collective results”.
America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP)
Source: AHIP document provided at meeting on European Systems of Universal Health Care, Washington, D.C., October 31, 2007
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The Health Care System of the Future
One day the USA will have more or less universal coverage
The question is:
– What will it look like?
– How will we get there?
– When will it happen?
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What? (1)
Much wider coverage but not totally universal
Not achieved by small incremental steps (but perhaps by several big steps)
Pluralistic system with roles for
– Employers
– For-profit and not-for-profit health plans
– Individual insurance
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What? (2)
A multi-payer system with government, individuals and employers all paying (a lot!)
More mandates
An expansion of some government programs
A multi-tiered system with a modest safety net
An emphasis on choice (if you can afford to choose)
More incentives based on measures of efficacy, safety, quality, cost
Tougher price controls
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What? (3)
The American system will be very complicated.
It will emphasize (or pay lip service to?) the market and competition
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What We Will Not Get
A “national health service”
Government employment of most physicians
Government ownership of most hospitals
Universal government insurance
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H A R R I S I N T E R A C T I V E
U.S. System May Look Somewhat Like Systems in:
Germany
Switzerland
Netherlands
(and a bit of Australia?)
But Not Like
U.K.
Canada
Scandinavia
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How?
Reform will happen only if there is:
An aroused and supportive public
A “virtual parliament”
A president:
– Who makes this a huge priority
– With great political skills (with public and Congress)
– With high poll ratings (60% plus)
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When?
Best time probably in first year after a landslide victory
– Election years make it tougher
– Most presidential parties lose congressional seats in mid-term elections
2009?
2013?
2017?
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And After Reform?
All healthcare systems are almost always in “crisis”
Even after major reforms, the pressures to change and improve the system, will never end
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H A R R I S I N T E R A C T I V E
Thank You!