Thomas Engel's Magnet Motor

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Thomas Engel with his motors. The older version on the left was constructed from an old

watch maker's lathe.

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Compiled by Sterling D. Allan

Pure Energy Systems News

January 26, 2014

Tim Eaton brought this to my attention. It was posted by my Italian friend and New

Energy Congress member, Sepp Hasslberger on his blog. The following is an

adaptation of what he wrote.

German Inventor solves permanent magnet motor puzzle - wants to 'give

away' the discovery...

Thomas Engel is a successful German inventor with more than a hundred

patented inventions to his credit. He - like many of his peers - does not lookback at a successful school education, but evidently that is not necessary for

success if you are smart and, as some say it might even be counter

productive, stifling creativity.

Engel has figured out the working principle of a type of motor many inventors

and tinkerers have been working on - so far unsuccessfully. He found a way

to make permanent magnets do actual work, transforming their attractive and

repulsive power into the true motive action of rotary motion.

A recent article in the German daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (12

November 2013) recounts a visit of the paper's technology editors to the

inventor's home and their impression of the new motor Engel says he wants

to 'give away'.

While the article is carefully written to avoid trouble and while it quotes the

obligatory university experts saying why such a motor is impossible, it does

give enough detail to allow us to understand the concept. If you want to start

experimenting, be warned: There is a lot of force in those rare earth magnets,

they can be dangerous to the unprepared.

Here is a translation of the article...It just keeps running and running...

The inventor Thomas Engel demonstrates a motor to us that never runs out of

fuel, because it works with the strength of neodymium magnets - leaving us a

bit disoriented.

by Lukas Weber

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translation: Sepp Hasslberger

Technical editors sometimes have to be impolite. There is a constant stream

of people who want to save the world with their inventions - all they are

missing is public support and the cash to further develop their idea. One has

to tell those people that either no one needs their creation or that it won't

work.

But what if it's different this time? There is a man who is seeking to contact

us. He is going through a freelance photographer and says he's got a motor at

his home that has been running since April without pause and that needs no

fuel to do that. The photographer has seen it and is all enthusiastic. We have

heard about such motors before, but have never seen a demonstration.

Normally, you wouldn't even have to bother to read beyond this point,

because something like this can't truly exist. But this time we're not talkingabout some crank with an idea. This one was honored in 1972 with the

prestigious Rudolf Diesel Medal for inventors, he has well over a hundred

patents to his name and has been lecturing at universities all over the world.

In the nineteen-fifties Engel developed a new procedure for the production of

polyethylene making plastic pipes resistant to hot water. The Munich Olympia

stadium has a lawn heating system based on this invention. He became a

millionaire before the age of 30. He never even took the A-level school exam

as in 1944 he was drafted into military air defense. After that, he did not have

time any more. Our journal reported at length about his carreer as a

diswasher exactly 13 years ago (on November 22, 2000). That is not the

biography of a charlatan. The inventor lives in Baden-Baden and he has a

place in Lucerne, Switzerland, where the motor is located. So we drive off

with mixed feelings to beautiful Switzerland.

Engel's motor is running. During the three hours we are there, it is chugging

along quietly, interrupted only by some experiments we will be talking about

later. There is no noticeable development of heat. The seems familiar, the

motor obtains its power from neodymium (NdFeB) magnets. Those are thestrongest permanent magnets known, a disk as little as a one-Euro coin can

hold about kilograms of weight. Neodymium is a rare earth element, much

used in electronics. Magnets made out of this material are used in nuclear

spin tomography and in wind generators, they drive water pumps of heavy

trucks and keep tools steady.



The magnets are manufactured using a mixture of neodymium, iron and

boron which is pressed into form and sintered. They are then magnetized with

a strong electric impulse. The energy used for magnetization, however, is not

what keeps the magnet working. Several suppliers of those magnets have

assured us that the power of the magnets doesn't diminish - even after years

of use. So it seems that the magnets can do work constantly without getting

degraded. The only thing those magnets don't like is great heat.

Engel's idea was that it should be possible to convert that power of the

magnets into rotary motion. He built a machine made of brass, resembling a

miniature lathe. The rotor is a disc with magnets fixed to it. The shaft turns in

ceramic bearings. A disc magnet fixed at the correct angle and distance from

the rotor but which itself is able to rotate (Engel calls it the mirror) can affect

the rotor magnets. There is attractive and repulsive force, depending on theorientation of the poles: the rotor can thus be set in continuous motion, as

long as the mirror keeps rotating. The mirror's rotation regulates the speed of

the rotor.

The exact form and disposition of the parts is difficult to ascertain, Engel had

to experiment at length with those parameters. If the mirror is a tad too

distant, the magnetic field breaks down. On the other hand, if it is too close,

the neodymium magnets will rip the construction apart. The mirror hangs in a

kind of outrigger. Two electric wires connect to the lower end with crocodile

clips. There is a tiny electric motor that rotates the mirror. So it isn't possible

to do without electricity altogether? The inventor signals his disagreement.

"Eight milliamperes at nine volts", he says. That is only a control mechanism.

The power at the shaft is much greater. Engel also thought about a

mechanical drive for the mirror directly from the rotor shaft, but opted against

this as it would considerably increase mechanical complexity.

We wanted to know more. The rotation is about 400 RPM. We don't have an

instrument to measure mechanical power. So we are having to use the finger

brake. It is difficult to stop the rotation by grabbing the shaft. The motor onlycomes to a standstill after considerable heat developed on the calluses of our

hands. A little hand made propeller out of plexiglass doesn't impress the

motor at all; we would really like to know how much power the machine turns

out. With a bit of dexterity, one can turn the mirror by hand and set the rotor in

motion. There is hardly any resistance when turning the mirror. We therefore



hazard an assertion: The output felt at the shaft is clearly greater than the

input needed to give the impulse. Of course measurement was only done with

human sensors.

It would be possible to put a second rotor on the opposite side, to be

addressed by the same mirror. Holding a screwdriver between the mirror and

the rotor in operation results in an oscillating motion of the screwdriver

between the magnets, without however touching them. Mr. Engel would like to

do more experimentation with the number of magnets and their form, but he

says he lacks the strength for further development.

Science is skeptical. A motor which produces more energy than it uses up is

impossible, says Markus Münzenberg, a professor for experimental physics at

Göttingen University. Because in closed systems, the sum of energy is always

equal. The apparently high torque at the shaft could be a consequence ofinertial mass of the machine which, once in motion, is difficult to stop.

Professor Ludwig Schultz, the director of the Institute for Metallic Materials in

Dresden agrees. While it would be possible to imagine magnet configurations

that periodically attract and then repel other magnets, but in that case the

potential energy would periodically bleed off without there being a gain in

energy.

The inventor's reaction to the question whether his motor is a perpetual

motion machine is somewhat resentful: "That is rubbish", he says. "There is

no such thing". Mr. Engel is convinced that his machine uses the enormous

energy which is inherent in quanta, those inconceivably small components of

atoms which were first described by the physicist Max Planck in the early part

of the last century. He therefore calls his machine an "quantum deviation

apparatus". Somethings are still unclear, also for the inventor himself.

Somewhere in Germany, a businessman has a second such motor at his

company, which runs with 1200 RPM. The man called some days ago he

says, and recounted that, when the motor was covered with an acrylic hood,

its rotational speed diminished. Engel does not know the reason for this.The expression "quantum motor" brings some bad associations with it, since

some cheats, about a decade ago, used that name to collect money for a

machine which never materialized. Engel's motor is quite different from that,

apart from a similarity in the description. The inventor does not need money.

He says he wants to give away the motor because mankind needs affordable



energy. It has to be further developed until some years in the future, we will

be making electricity with it in the basements of our housing units.

What is the next step now? Engel wants to attach a small generator to the

shaft and show that his motor delivers more electricity than is needed for its

control. If he could do that, we'd really have some sensational news.

/END OF TRANSLATION



If you read this translation of the article carefully, there is a good description

of how the motor works.

Unfortunately I have no more data or direct contact to the inventor.

The way I read it, he uses flat disk neodymium magnets, that are fixed to a

rotor (presumably placed in a fashion that they show alternating poles going

around the disk.

One more of those magnets is hung in a rotatable fashion on an outlayer that

keeps it a constant distance from the rotor. That "mirror" magnet is motorized.

As the mirror turns, it will attract and repel the two closest magnets on the

rotor, attracting the approaching one, repelling the other receding one.

As the approaching magnet passes, the mirror completes a half turn and the

simultaneous attraction/repulsion repeats, this time with inverted magnetic

poles.

The mirror is motorized to control RPMs, the energy expended to turn the

mirror is considerably less than that which is output by the shaft that's driven

by the rotor.Simple principle - no magnetic shielding involved, only clever arrangement of

magnets in a dynamic configuration...



I just came across a YouTube video that shows a permanent magnet motorconstructed by someone in the UK.

The principle seems to be the one that Thomas Engel also has figured out.

There is a rotor and a single magnet (the "mirror" magnet) that turns around

its own axis, at a short distance from the rotor magnets that keep passing at

increasing speed...



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