The Newsletter of the Entwistle Family History Association...

Twissle Times Issue 33 March 2008

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The Newsletter of theEntwistle Family History Association

Twissle Timeswww.entwistlefamily.org.uk March 2008

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In This Issue:Committee News 1

Clive Leyland Tribute 2

New Editors 3

Entwisle Heraldry 4

Sir Bertine’s Memorial 5

Links between Members 6

Unwanted Certificates 7

Fictional Entwistles 8

Do you know these people? 9

Record Marriage 9

Bannister Grimshaw? 10

Can you help? 11

Genealogy from A to H 11

Useful Websites 12

[email protected]

NEWS FROM THE COMMITTEE

TREASURERThose of you without email will not have learned ofthe death of our treasurer, Clive Leyland, justbefore Christmas. The committee were pleasedwhen Brian Cook volunteered to act as treasureruntil the A.G.M. in October 2008 and he has beenco-opted to the committee in this capacity.

We shall need a new treasurer in October and hopeyou will think about whether you might be able totake on this role. It is not a very onerous task, soplease contact me if you want more information.

EDITORThis is the first edition produced by our neweditors, Eileen and Brian Cowen. Eileen has alsobeen co-opted onto the committee, and we lookforward to working with her. We would like to givea very big thank-you to Ray Entwistle for his helpin producing Twissle Times during the last twoyears.

POSTAL LIBRARYSo far only one member has made use of our postallibrary. I am happy to house the books and use themto help our overseas members, but we would likeour U.K. members to make use of this facility. Acomplete list of all our books, and how the postallibrary operates, was given in the September 2007issue of Twissle Times, and new members will havereceived this information in their Welcome Pack.Take a look at the list and see if there is anythingthat might help you knock down that brick wall!

Membership Queries(including queries about yourmembership number and password)

Contact: Elizabeth CookPen-y-Gader, Llanrwst RoadTyn-y-Groes, ConwyNorth Wales, LL32 8SX

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CLIVE LEYLAND – AN OBITUARY

Clive joined the Entwistle Family History Association in 2004, his connection being Mary AliceEntwistle, his maternal grandmother, daughter of Samuel and Emma, nee Settle. Following ourA.G.M. at Old Rosins, Pickup Bank in October 2005, he entertained us with reminiscences andsongs from his CD “A Northern Man”, songs which followed his family’s fortunes through theyears, leading some to emigrate to Canada after World War 1. He became Treasurer of theE.F.H.A. in October 2006.

Clive was suffering from pulmonary fibrosis, a degenerative lungdisease that doesn't yet have an effective treatment, and had toldmembers of the committee in October 2007 that in January 2008he would be seeing his doctors with a view to going on the waitinglist for a lung transplant.

Sadly, after a short illness, Clive passed away on 22nd December2007. His funeral was held at 11.00 am on Monday 31st Decemberat Rawdon Crematorium, West Yorkshire. The EFHA wasrepresented by Tom Entwistle and Brian and Elizabeth Cook.

During the service, his son-in-law gave an address, compiled by Clive’s daughters, of which thefollowing is a summary

Clive was a talented musician, who passed allhis piano exams up to Grade 8 and became anaccomplished pianist. He then discovered rockand roll, got his first guitar at the age of 14,and used the records of the Shadows to teachhimself lead, rhythm and bass guitar. Withthree of his friends he joined his first band, theCitizens, playing on the school dance andyouth club circuit. This later changed into theMoonstones, which showed the influence ofthe Beatles, Everlys and Hollies.

In 1963, aged 18, a career intervened, withtraining in accountancy, followed bymanagement consultancy, first with ArthurAndersen, then in a small business calledMicroguide with other ex-Arthur Andersencolleagues, and finally as Clive LeylandConsulting.

Clive met Sheila through his friendship withher brother. They married in 1972 and had twodaughters, Sue born in 1975 and Sarah in1980.

In the 1990s, Clive discovered folk music. Hejoined Auld Triangle, the long-establishedhouse band at Westhoughton Folk Club in1998, and with them released a popular CD.

He formed the acoustic band Bandersnatchwith four folk club contacts in 1999, againreleasing a CD.

In 2001 Clive was diagnosed with aprogressive lung disorder. He retired from his“day job” but continued to follow his musicalcareer. He was an insatiable song-writer, andeven jotted down lyrics while in hospital. In2004, he released his first solo CD, A NorthernMan. He continued to play with Auld Triangleand Bandersnatch and also did solo gigs andsession work.

Despite his failing health, Clive carried onfully with his music and family life, andbecame a proud grandfather to James inJanuary 2006. His family will take inspirationfrom his attitude to life and his unfailing wishto live life to the full whatever it throws at us.

Sheila Leyland has asked us to insert anacknowledgement on behalf of herself andher daughters, thanking everyone who sentmessages of condolence on Clive’s death.They very much appreciated all the kindmessages of sympathy. Thank you.


NEW EDITORS

Entwisle rootsAs a child I remember being intrigued by myEntwisle roots. Most of my male relativesseemed to be called William (or Bill)Entwis(t)le. Both grandfathers, father, uncle,cousin, brother, nephew and, eventually, greatnephew were named William Entwis(t)le. Iwas born and grew up less than 5 miles fromthe village of Entwistle in Lancashire.

It was my father who claimed to be descendedfrom the ‘true’ Entwisle family! Spelling thename without the final ‘t’ was apparentlyessential! My grandfather had grown up inEntwistle, at Whittlestone Head, and he andhis father Edmund had been known as ‘Nedand Bill o’Bannister’. I learned that BannisterHouse was one of the properties of theEntwisle Estate in the 19th century. I learned ofthe futile attempt in the 1920’s to try toreclaim the ‘lost’ Entwisle properties fromsomething called ‘Chancery’.

So it was that I grew up with some interest inmy family history and from time to time triedto discover a bit more.

Learning moreI was educated in Darwen, at Lower ChapelPrimary, then Darwen Grammar School. In1967 I went to Bangor University to studyhistory. I met Brian at Bangor and, followingmy teacher training at Reading University, wemoved to Eccleshill, Darwen and I taughthistory and humanities in a Darwen highschool for almost ten years. Brian worked as acomputer programmer in Manchester but thenalso trained to teach secondary level history.

During the 1980’s I left teaching while ourthree children were small and so was able todabble a bit more with family history, mainlyas an offshoot from an interest in local history.I remember laboriously transcribing censusrecords of Eccleshill from microfilms inDarwen Library – then the feeling of wondersome time later when I recognised mygrandfather and his twin as 7 year olds in1881. My mother was still alive then so I wasable to obtain some oral evidence about them.

A return to teaching for about fifteen years leftlittle time for personal research, and in myprofessional life I moved away from historyinto special educational needs. It was onlyafter early retirement that I was able to revivemy interest in my roots and to combine thiswith my other enthusiasm for using computers.

Family historUsing websites suand www.genesreunmy earlier discovethe spring of 200advice from Barbar

I’ve made manyemail. Frank Whitnot met for overregular correspondphotographs of ourearly 20th century.Vanessa Jackson (my father’s side I’Blocher, Anne LovBarbara Ellison.

Brian retired last yhistory in schools aenjoys developingconstructing a wWe use this to publgrow, passing omembers of our famto flesh-out varioutrees, making our a

We hope our jointTimes will link weand that we can doby previous editors

Editors:Eileen & Brian Cowen44 Dandy RowDarwen, LancashireBB3 3BLTel: 01254 [email protected]

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y researchch as www.ancestry.co.ukited.co.uk I expanded uponries. I joined the EFHA in6 and received invaluablea Nightingale.

new contacts, mostly bytaker (254), a cousin I’veforty years, has become aent and we have sharedmothers’ family in the veryMore distant relatives are

150) (see page 6), and onve noticed links with Amyell (8), Joyce Havard and

ear after a career teachingnd then IT at a college. Hehis enthusiasms, including

ebsite www.dandyrow.co.ukish our family trees as theyn information to otherilies. We have also started

s stories from our familyncestors more real.

editorship of the Twisslell with these other interestsjustice to the examples set

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NEWS FROM THE COMMITTEE

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CHANGE OF ADDRESSWe have had several instances of membersforgetting to inform us when they change theiremail address. When an email bounces backwe make contact by Royal Mail to query this.However, if an old email address is still inexistence, but is not checked very often,messages do not bounce back and we assumethey have already been received.

It is especially important that we have thecorrect email address (a) when we are sendingout details of the A.G.M. and (b) whenmembership fees are due for renewal, soplease remember to let us know of anychanges. This also applies to postal addresses.

TWISSLE TIMESA few members have told us they have notreceived issues of Twissle Times – but theyhave not reported this until several monthshave gone by. In at least one case we had to re-send three issues. Twissle Times is publishedin March, June, September and December eachyear, normally in the first week of the month,but sometimes a few days later. If you havenot received it by the end of each of thesemonths please let us know. [[Ed.]....................

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ENTWISLE HERALDRY“There is a copy of the modern bearings, crestand motto, on a modern house (formerly abeerhouse known as Royal Arms, at the easternend of the railway bridge by Spring Vale Station,Darwen), built by the late William Entwisle, whoclaimed to be hereditary Lord of the Manor ofEntwisle.”1

Reading this extract from Grimshaw’s bookprompted a visit to this house at Sough, Darwen tophotograph these ‘bearings’.

[Eileen Cowen]

??? Does anyone know more of the history of this buildi

1 Grimshaw, Bannister, 1924, The Entwisle Family: Accrington, Lancashire, Theon our website www.entwistlefamily.org.uk

SPRING OUTINGIn the September 2007 issue we asked ifmembers would be interested in visiting atextile museum. There was no response,so there will not be a Spring Outing thisyear. We would welcome suggestions forfuture visits.

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A DATE FOR YOUR DIARY

SATURDAY 18 OCTOBER 2008

e thoroughly enjoyed our visit toossendale Museum last year, and will be

eturning there for our 9th Annual Generaleeting on Saturday 18 October 2008.

he speaker will be Jonathan Ali, his topic:

Our Boys’ – how to research the impact ofhe Great War on a local community.

urther details will be given in the June

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ng and the ‘late William Entwisle?

Accrington Gazette, 136 p. Available to EFHA members

ssue of the Twissle Times.


SIR BERTINE’S MEMORIAL

Whilst preparing this Twissle Times, I enjoyedreading previous issues, including TomEntwistle’s articles about the life of Sir BertineEntwisle. Then, looking through some of myold notes, I found a photograph of a marblememorial tablet to Sir Bertine Entwisle(below). I could remember nothing about thephoto’s origins and there was nothing writtenon the back so I ‘googled’ Sir Bertine Entwisleand found this url:

http://www.link4life.org/media/downloads/C5316FE0-94C0-8E3C-35ABBBDC3C662E34.pdf

This led me to the late 19th century History ofthe Parish of Rochdale’ by Henry Fishwick,which is digitised and online. It mentioned thetablet as being in the tower of St Chad’s ParishChurch, Rochdale, Lancashire. I then realisedthat I’d taken the photo myself, some yearsago, on my only visit to the town.

St Chad’s, RochdaleOn a lovely February morning we re-visitedRochdale to try to obtain a digital image of thememorial. Unfortunately the church waslocked but our trip proved fruitful in anotherway as we enjoyed a visit to the Pioneers

Museum, at Toad Lane, dedicated to the earlyCo-operative Movement, The curator gave usa personal tour of the museum and sold us amodern history of St Chad’s, Top o’th’Stepsby K. H. Dixon (revised 2004). This includes areference to Sir Bertine’s memorial tablet:

‘A marble tablet high up on the north wall ofthe Tower was erected in 1807 by JohnEntwisle and reads as follows:

To Perpetuate a Memorial erected in theChurch of St. Peter, at St. Albans’s (perishedby time) this Marble is here placed to theMemory of a gallant and loyal man, SirBertine Entwisel, Knight, Viscount and Baronof Brybeke in Normandy, and sometimeBaliffe of Constantine, in which Office hesucceeded his father-in-law, Sir JohnAshton, whose daughter first married SirRichard le Byron, an ancestor of the LordsByrons, Barons of Rochdale; and secondly,Sir Bertine Entwisel, who after repeated actsof Valour, in the service of his SovereignsHenry the 5th & 6th, more particularly atAgincourt, was Killed in the first Battle of St.Alban’s, and on his tomb was recorded inBrass, the following inscription:

“Here lyeth Sir BERTIN ENTWISEL,Knight, who was born in Lancastershire, andwas Viscount and Baron of Brybeke inNormandy, and Baliffe Constantine, whodied fighting in King Henry the Sixth Party,the 28th of May, 1455

On whose soul JESU have Mercy.”

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St Chad’s is a 12th century building with asquare tower, standing on Sparrow Hill. Aflight of 124 steps leads up to the church, highabove the town centre and town hall. It hasundergone various changes, particularly duringthe 19th century. For further details andphotographs:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~todmordenandwalsden/St.Chads.htm


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But, why Rochdale?Tom Entwistle’s article about the Foxholesbranch of the family helps to clarify thereasons for the memorial tablet being in StChad’s.See www.entwistlefamily.org.uk/foxholes.htm

In 1787 John Markland inherited the estates ofFoxholes, Rochdale from his cousin RobertEntwisle who died unmarried. John and Robertwere grandsons of another Bertine Entwisle,the Vice-Chancellor of the Duchy ofLancaster. John Markland then assumed thenames and arms of the Entwisle family and,presumably, provided the memorial to SirBertine which is still to be seen in St Chad’s.

Over a hundred years later BannisterGrimshaw was sceptical about John Entwisle’sinterest in Sir Bertine: ‘In my “Notes on theEntwisle Family,” I have pointed out andgiven evidence that Sir Bertine Entwisle left noissue. John Entwisle has not the honour ofdescent from Sir Bertine. He is a descendant inthe distaff side of Bertine Entwisle, Vice-Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.

Nor can I find any evidence that Sir Richard leByron left any issue except a daughter Lucy,the step-daughter of Sir Bertine…. In any casethere were no blood ties between the Entwisleand Byron families. .

There is also a memorial tablet in thechurch to John’s son, John Entwisle ofFoxholes (born 1784), who became Sheriffof Lancashire in 1824, and in January,1835, was elected M.P. for the borough ofRochdale. Henry Fishwick records this:

‘In the west end of the church, where the fontused to stand, are the following inscriptions onmarble tablets:

So … perhaps there was no direct connectionbut it is still an interesting memorial to anillustrious member of the family and to JohnEntwisle’s pride in his family 200 years ago.

[Eileen Cowen (241)]

LINKS BETWEEN MEMBERS

Eileen Cowen (241) contacted me in October2006, with the exciting news that shesuspected that our Entwistle lines linked up,and that we were in fact distant cousins! Wequickly established that...YES, our Entwistleancestors were indeed one and the same!

Eileen was later contacted by her first cousin,Frank Whittaker (254). Their mothers, Dorisand Margaret Entwistle, were sisters,daughters of William and Margaret Entwistle.

We had all managed to trace our Entwistlesback to Thomas Entwisle farmer/weaver, borncirca 1806-11. In 1841 Thomas was living inWarm Withins, Oswaldtwistle, together withwife: Alice, and children: James, Ann, Joseph,

Charles & Betty. By 1851 both parents weredead, and the children were living alone inShorrock Fold, Yate and Pickup Bank.

Joseph Entwisle was great grandfather toEileen and Frank, and his brother Charles wasmy great great grandfather.

We are still trying to trace our Entwis(t)lesfurther back but without success, so far.Eileen has found that Alice Entwisle died inApril 1844 of consumption at Moor Cock,Oswaldtwistle aged 38. Moor Cock no longerexists although Eileen has pinpointed it on anold map (near to the Grey Mare pub) on theroad from Haslingden to Blackburn), and hasphotographed the remains of the foundations.

[Vanessa Jackson (150)]

“To the Memory of John Entwistle, esq., ofFoxholes, M.P. for this Borough; and Ellen, hiswife, one of the daughters and co-heiresses ofThomas Smith, Esq., of Castleton.

He died April 5 th, 1837, aged 52 years, and wasinterred in the parish church of St. Marylebone,London; she died at Foxholes, Feb. 28th, 1838,aged 53, and was interred in this church.”


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UNWANTED CERTIFICATES

Carole Cockshott (member 14) would like to find homes for these unwanted certificates. Pleasecontact Carole at 71/1 Hyde Parade, Campbelltown, New South Wales 2560, Australia or email:[email protected]

Family GroupsMarriage certificate: 23 February 1870 at St.John’s Church, Manchester

James Lees, 22, Bachelor, Clerk, of107 Dale Street, Hulme - FatherThomas Lees, Weaver & FannyEntwisle, 22, Spinster of BridgewaterStreet - Father John Entwisle, Agent.Both signed. Witnesses John Hollandand Sarah Ann Valentine.

Birth Certificate: 16 March 1875Ann, daughter of James Lees & Fannydeceased (nee Entwisle), Salesman of13 Elizabeth Street, Pendleton.

Death certificate: 25 March 1875Fanny Lees, 27, wife of James Lees,Salesman, of 13 Elizabeth Street,Pendleton.

Marriage certificate: 3 June 1852 inManchester Cathedral

Joseph Entwistle, 21, Bachelor,Calenderer of 3 Blackburn PlaceSalford - Father Thomas Entwistle,Dyer & Elizabeth Bury, 23, Spinsterof Mount Street, Salford - FatherEdward Bury, Butcher. He signed, shemade her mark. Witnesses GreenHannar & Alice Bury.

Birth Certificate: 17 July 1862Emily, daughter of Joseph Entwisleand Elizabeth (nee Berry), Calendererof Stand Lane, Pilkington.

Birth Certificates6 December 1838: Charles Entwistle, son ofThomas and Alice (nee Heywood) at FourLane Ends.

6 May 1839: Jonathan, son of John Entwisleand Alice (nee Wardle), Weaver of RingleyFold.

13 November 1840: James Thomas, son ofWilliam Entwistle and Sarah (nee Oakes),Pattern Designer of 13 Harrison Buildings.Registered at Salford Greengates.

11 May 1866: James William, son of JamesEntwisle and Margaret (nee Roscow), CottonDyer of Black Lane, Radcliffe.

18 July 1872: Gilbert Entwistle, son ofCharles and Elizabeth (nee Barratt), Corporalof Fermoy Barracks. Registered Fermoy, Co.Cork, Ireland.

1 June 1876: Jane Harriet, daughter of YatesEntwisle and Jane (nee Berkley), Ginger BeerManufacturer of 54 Ellor Street, Salford.

Death Certificates20 November 1856: John Entwistle, age 78,Tape Manufacturer of Whitefield, Pilkington.Informant was Mathew Entwistle ofWhitefield, Pilkington.

13 March 1863: James Entwisle, age 77, Ag.Lab. of Elizabeth Street, Radcliffe. Informantwas Thomas Entwisle of Water Lane,Radcliffe.

29 November 1863: Betty Entwisle, age 77,widow of James Entwisle, Ag. Lab. Of WaterLane, Radcliffe.

8 April 1870: James Entwisle, age 72, CottonWarper of 140 Stand Lane, Pilkington.Informant was E. Entwisle of the sameaddress.

12 January 1871: Ann Entwisle, age 64, wifeof John Entwisle, Cotton Yarn Agent of 1Peacock Street, Salford.

19 May 1877: John Entwisle, Yarn Agent of204 Tatton Street, Salford. Informant wasGrace Entwisle, daughter.


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UNWANTED BIRTH CERTIFICATE

??? If you recognise this family, memberJohn Entwistle (167) has a birth certificatewhich he is happy to pass on free of charge.Please contact John.

In 1861 Thomas Beckett Entwistle, aged 31,was living with his wife, Eleanor Jane, atStokes Hall, Livesey, Blackburn. Hisoccupation was ‘cotton manager of looms’,and he was born in Darwen. Eleanor Jane wasborn in Ramsey, Isle of Man. They had twodaughters, Eva aged 2, and Ann Jane aged 10months.

By 1871 the family were living in PrincessStreet, Livesey, and this time Thomas’soccupation was ‘cotton overlooker’. Eva (12)and Ann Jane (10) had been joined by James(8), Thomas Mylrea (6) and William Callow(3).

Eleanor Jane Entwistle died in 1871, quarter 2,aged 34 and in 1872, quarter 4, ThomasBeckett Entwistle married Elizabeth MaryMercer at Feniscowles Immanuel.

In 1881 Eva (22), Ann Jane (20), James (18),Thomas (16) and William (13) were all cottonweavers, and younger siblings Elizabeth Mary

(6), John Charles (4), Nancy Ellen (3) andJonathan (1).

By 1891 Eva, Ann Jane, James and Elizabethhad left home, and only Thomas (26),Elizabeth (16), John (14) and Nancy (13)remained.

The National Calendar of Wills & Grants ofProbate has the following entry:

THOMAS BECKETT ENTWISTLE, late of 39Princess Street, Livesey, Blackburn, Lancs.Overlooker. Died 24 December 1896. Provedby Elizabeth Mary Entwistle, widow relict.Effects: £190.7s. 10d.

In 1901 Elizabeth Mary Entwistle (55) and herson John Charles (24), a grocer’s assistant,were still living at 39 Princess Street.

Born 5 June 1870 at Princess Street, Livesey:John Cain Entwistle. Father: Thomas BecketEntwistle, Overlooker in a Cotton Mill.Mother: Eleanor Jane Entwistle, formerlyCallow.

St. Catherine’s Index shows that John CainEntwistle died in 1871, quarter 1, aged 0.

FICTIONAL CHARACTERS NAMED ENTWISTLE! Someone on the GOONS mailing list openedup an interesting line of correspondencerecently, regarding characters with our One-Name surname in literature, film, etc.

Apart from Bert Kwok playing the part of“Entwistle” in “Last of the Summer Wine” Ididn’t know of any, but was given these:

After the Funeral (Agatha Christie) - MrEntwistle was the solicitor.

Meet Mr Mulliner (P. G. Wodehouse,1927) - Rev Trevor Entwistle, headmaster,Barchester College, friend of the Bishop ofStortford.

A Safety Match (Ian Hay, 1911) - AmosEntwistle collier, and Jacob his father.

[Barbara Nightingale]

King Cotton (Thomas Armstrong, 1947) –the Entwistles were neighbours and friendsof Kit Ormerod’s family in Throstleton.

[Eileen Cowen (241]

??? Any others? Please let us know!

Postal Library & ResearchContact Barbara Nightingale58 Earnsdale Road, DarwenLancashire BB3 1HS

[email protected]


DO YOU KNOW THESE PEOPLE?

Abraham Entwistle

??? This photograph was sent to BarbaraNightingale by Barbara Cunningham, wholives in Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A. Does anyonerecognise the family?

First left on the front row is Barbara's great-grandfather, Abraham Entwistle, at awedding somewhere in Manchester.

Abraham was born on 22 June 1866 at 76Union Street, Ancoats. His parents wereGeorge Entwistle and Sarah, nee Wood.

??? Margaret-E. Fleuty hopes someonemight recognise members of her mother’sfamily. Please write to Margaret or emailBarbara Nightingale.

Eleanor MaryEntwistle, born 22February 1919 inThrockley,Northumberland,was the daughter ofThomas Entwistleand Sarah Ann,formerly Nuttall,who married inPontypridd on 19August 1908. At thatyears old and his fathEntwistle, traffic managyears old, daughter of W

In the 1901 Census Joand his family were livRoad, Kearsley, Lancaand family at 4 Pigg

Committee member Maureen Fisher foundthe births of Eleanor Mary’s brothers andsisters in the GRO Index:

FRANCES ALICE, born in Bolton R.D. on 30September 1912. Died in March 1985 aged 72in Kensington & Chelsea R.D. She was aspinster.

WALTER, born in Bolton R.D. on 20 January1914. He was a bachelor and lived with hismother in New Street, Aberavon until shedied. He died in February 1989, aged 75.

STEPHEN, birth registered in Castle Ward,Northumberland in 1916, Q1.

JOHN R., birth registered in Gateshead in1922, Q1. His second name may beRUSSELL, as Margaret-E. knows of an uncleRussell who was in the R.A.F. during the war.He and his family are thought to have lived inCanada.

LAURA, birth registered in Mansfield in 1923,Q4. She married a Canadian, Don Ashford,and went to live in Rhodesia. Last heard ofliving in Stroud, Gloucestershire, with twochildren, Ann and Tony.

RECORD MARRIAGE?On Wednesday, 23 January 2008, theLancashire Evening Post reported the record-breaking marriage of Jim and MargaretEntwisle of Chorley. They married at St.Gregory’s Church, Chorley on 25 May 1929after a four-year courtship.

Jim is 101 years old and Margaret recentlycelebrated her 100th birthday, when she

Sarah Ann & Eleanor MaryEntwistle

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time, Thomas was 22er was John Thomaser. Sarah Ann was 19illiam Nuttall, Collier.

hn Thomas Entwistleing at 153 Manchestershire; William Nuttallott Street, Farnworth.

received a telegram from the Queen. Thecouple have also received blessings from bothPope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II.The couple had one child, Pauline, who died atthe age of 56, and have three grandchildrenand six great-grandchildren.


??? If any member is related to this happycouple, please pass on our good wishes!


WHO WAS THE AUTHOR?

As the latePeterStanfordsaid in hisreview onourwebsite, thefamily'shistorycould hardly be bettered by any fictional work:"It has everything - a hero, the gallant SirBertine Entwisle; a black sheep, the weakwilled George Entwisle; and a villain, theodious Thurston Tyldesley..."

Little seems known of Bannister Grimshawother than that he was an amateur historian andwrote his book from a collection of notes andjottings made through his interest in the areaand the family. I believe he was clerk toTurton Urban District Council which coveredEntwistle from 1898. I was able to find a briefbackground of the author by using.......www.ancestry.co.uk

Bannister’s parents, John and Mary Ann, wereborn in Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire in the1840s. By the 1860s they were married andliving in the Entwistle area. Bannister and hissister Lois were born in 1867 and 1874 inEdgeworth, followed in 1880 by LaviniaAlice.

The family appears on the census of 1871 atCherry Tree Hall, Entwistle. Bannister’s fatherwas then a master stone mason, employing 6men and a boy. By 1881 the family had movedto Higher Trees Farm, also in Entwistle, andBannister, now 14, was described as a farmer’sson. In 1891 the widowed Mary AnnGrimshaw was living at Edge Fold Farm,Entwistle with Bannister, 24, a joiner, andLavinia Alice, aged 11.

In 1894 Bannister Grimshaw marriedElizabeth Frances Hargreaves at Holy TrinityChurch, Darwen.

In 1901 Bannister Grimshaw was living withhis wife Elizabeth F. at 111 Lee Gate Lane,Turton with their daughter Lavinia Annie,aged 5. Elizabeth was born in Darwen andLavinia in Entwistle. The census tells us thatBannister was a joiner and builder, and was anemployer. There appears to have been asecond marriage to Annie M. Stone in 1926.

[Eileen Cowen]

[Barbara Nightingale has details of aninvestigation undertaken on this topic by asmall group of EFHA members a few yearsago. This will appear in the June issue.]

??? Do any of our readers know more of thisauthor’s life and his links with our family?

Don’t forget to check out our website! www.entwistlefamily.org.ukApart from the interesting articles openly available, E.F.H.A.members may also download:

Entwistle related Census Records,

past issues of our newsletter - Twissle Times.

.pdf copy of Bannister Grimshaw's book "The Entwisle Family" published in 1924. Thebook, which is 72 pages of extensive research into the local family history, withillustrations, has real historical significance going back to the thirteenth century andbeyond. Original copies now change hands for upwards of £40.

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IT REALLY IS WORTH BECOMING A MEMBER!

www.entwistlefamily.org.uk


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CAN YOU HELP?

I have had an email from a Bill Gerrard, whois trying to trace the parents of his great-great-grandmother.

She was NANCY ENTWISTLE, who on 31August 1846 married THOMAS WESTWELLat St. Mary’s, Bury. Unfortunately there is nofather’s name on the marriage certificate.

The 1851 census (Shuttleworth) gives theinformation that she was born in Haslingden,circa 1829.

After Thomas died, Nancy married JOSHUARAMSBOTTOM in 1888. She died in theBury district in 1893.

Bill believes he has found her living inWalmersley in 1841, but it is rather a strangehousehold:

Betty Entwistle age 4; James Entwistle,coal miner age 20; John Entwistle age7; Nancy Entwistle age 12; WilliamEntwistle, coal miner age 14; WilliamEntwistle, junior, coal miner age 12.

If anyone can help trace Nancy’s baptism, orhas any knowledge of her, will they pleasecontact me?


GENEALOGY FROM A TO H

[Extracted from the Ancestry Weekly Journal provided by email from www.ancestry.com 11 Feb 2008.Also see www.rootdig.com which is maintained by the same writer, Michael John Neil].

[ccuracy. Are your records as accurateas possible? Have transcriptions beenmade correctly and in an honest effort

to copy the original precisely?

ibliographies. Have you looked atbibliographies and finding aidsfrequently shown on state archives

websites and genealogical research libraries?Materials listed in these guides may assist youin your research. Bibliographies in historicalor genealogical journal articles may alsoreference materials of which you were notaware.

ited. Are your sources cited in such away that you or someone else couldeasily find the record again if

necessary? If not, consider expanding yoursource detail.

ocumented. Do you have at least onesource for each event or name in yourdatabase? Although one source does

not imply accuracy and multiple independentsources are preferable, one is a start.

rrors. Remember that any record cancontain errors. Never assume that onerecord is 100 percent accurate. Gather

as many records as possible before drawingconclusions.

aith. Have you searched for records ofyour ancestor's faith? Records of churchmembership may provide insights into

your ancestor's life and family.

oogle. Have you Googled all yourrelatives? I searched for a relative thatdied twenty years ago, entering in his

name and last county of residence in the searchbox. I got several hits, including a post madeby a granddaughter.

ome. Did your ancestor go back"home" to marry, have a child, die, orto be buried? Do not assume your

ancestor never made any trips back home. Insome cases significant events might have takenplace "at home" after the ancestor had left thatrequired his return. owen]..................................

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OTHER USEFUL WEBSITESAn excellent website, outlining the history ofBritain from 1801. Enter the name of the placeyou are interested in, and read all about it.

www.visionofbritain.org.uk/index.jsp

For anyone with an interest in the Sheffieldarea, the following website will be of interest:

www.sheff-indexers.thewholeshebang.org


Newspaper Archives: The UK Guardian andthe Observer have launched a digital archive athttp://archive.guardian.co.uk. The archivecovers the period of 1821-1975 for theGuardian and 1900-1975 for the Observer asthey are still working on digitising theremaining material. From early 2008 onwardsthe entire archive up to 2003 will be available– more than 1.2m pages covering all majorhistoric events over 212 years as reported atthe time. Searching is free of charge. However,if you want to view in full or print out materialyou will need to subscribe to a timed accesspass.

Naval Wills Online: Documents Online hasdigitised ADM 48, the series holding originalwills of Royal Naval warrant officers andseamen. It covers 1786-1882. For moreinformation:www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/seamenswills.asp

National Burial Index: Following the transferof the Family History Societies’FamilyHistoryOnline service to Findmypastthe first FHO dataset has appeared. TheNational Burial Index, which includes over 10million burial records for England and Walesfrom 1538-2005 has been indexed by localfamily history societies. Initial searches arefree but thereafter a charge will apply. Formore information:.........................................:www.familyhistoryonline.net/index/general/fmpfaq.shtml

The records themselves can be seen atwww.findmypast.com

[Extracted from ‘Ancestors’ magazine, Q12008 - Ray Entwistle]

Military Websites[The following have been copiedfrom a free insert in ‘Ancestors’magazine.]

www.iwm.org.uk run by theImperial War Museum has many pages forpeople researching 20th century wars.

www.cwgc.org lists all British andCommonwealth service personnel andcivilians who lost their lives during the twoworld wars, including burial or details ofcommemoration and, in some cases, the nameand address of next of kin.

www.ukniwm.org.uk contains a searchableindex to 55,000 war memorials across the UKfrom the 18th century to the present day. Alsosee blog at: http://ukniwm.wordpress.com

www.veterans-uk.info provides basicinformation about getting hold of post-1918service records and medals for each of theservices.

www.awm.gov.au from the Australian WarMemorial, includes an awesome number ofonline resources from the 19th century to thepresent, including WW1 service records anddatabases of Diggers serving in the SecondWorld War.

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