Telemachos vs Achilles

Amatheon Bohan, Vashisth Parekh, Aidan Grogan, CJ Stott, Pramod Narayanan

I can…● learn and understand the heroic cycle● compare and contrast Achilles and

Telemachos as heroes using the heroic cycle and The Power of Myth

What is a hero?

Definition of a Hero

A hero...● gives his life to a bigger cause than

himself/herself o is someone who saves someone or supports

an idea● performs a courageous deed in battle

o saves a life● learns what others cannot

The Heroic Cycle

The CharactersAchillesTelemachos

Telemachos: A Hero?● Meeting with Mentes (Athena)● Suiters put Telemachos down (Town Meeting)● Getting aid from Mentor/Athena● Telemachos takes control of his voyage● Telemachos travels through rough seas● Nestor and Menelaos● The suitors (Antinoos, Eurymachus, etc)● Learned about Odysseus

o Odysseus’ actions in the Trojan War● Maturation

Telemachos: A Hero?● Power of the myth

o Hero does something for the betterment of all

o Telemachos's quest is not only for himself, but for his family and possibly for all of Ithaca

Achilles: A Hero?● The Idea of the Trojan War● Mother’s Reluctance to let Achilles go● The Trojan War begins● Agamemnon, Hector, and Patroclus● Defeats Hector ● Death By Paris● The Greeks win

Achilles: A Hero?● Power of the myth

o The conquest of fear yields the courage of life. That is the cardinal initiation of every heroic adventure -- fearlessness and achievement - Joseph Campbell

● Achilles knew he was going to die, but he helped

Similarities● Immaturity and Stubbornness● Acceptance after realization

o Athena - Telemachoso Death of Patroclus-Achilles

● Intervention of Supernatural Forces● Create Enemies

DifferencesTelemachos

● Born and grew up without a father

● No heroic feats● Born a son of a great

warrior● Fights the suitors● Takes journey to find father● Suitors plan to kill him● Reluctant Heroism

Achilles● Born invincible● The Greek’s go-to Hero● Born the son of a nymph● Fights the Trojans● Takes journey to go to war● Paris and Apollo already

killed him● Bold Heroism

Conclusion● Heroes come in all shapes and sizes

● A hero can accept his fate or deny it

● A hero will overcome his challenges o Does something for the greater good of

humanity

THE END