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Teenagers consulting with their GP & practice nurses Dr Maryanne Freer 07960718764 [email protected] Dr Maryanne Freer www.cwmt.org 07960718764 [email protected]

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Teenagers consulting with

their GP & practice nurses

Dr Maryanne Freer07960718764

[email protected] Dr Maryanne Freer www.cwmt.org 07960718764 [email protected]

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A problem shared is a

problem halved

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Introductions- myself

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Thanks to:

Sir Mark and Lady Rachel Waller- CWMT.

Dr Dick Churchill - RCGP Adolescent Task Group

Dr David Shiers-GP& NIMHE

Professor John Spencer & MiC GP tutors- Newcastle Medical School Primary Care Dept

Dr Alison Macdonald- Northumbria VTS Director

Dr Nicki Williams & Dr Chris Marr – RCGP WBA

Professor Chris Drinkwater

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Quick quiz

Who is the young person’s most favoured health professional & 2 reasons why?

How many young people who see a GP have a diagnosable mental health problem?

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Quick quiz

How many minutes of a GP consultation is spent on a teenagers mental health?

Prior to a young person’s suicide do the number of GP consultations increase or decrease?

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The job of the “favoured” family doctor & practice team

The confidanteContinuityCradle to graveThrough physical health

managementFamily practiceMum/DadSiblings

Early detection & recognition

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Young people see GP’s voluntarily & through their own necessity.

E.g contraception needs

GP take a pragmatic, functional approach

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Further information:

Freer M, Shiers D, Churchill C. Meeting the Mental Health Needs of Young People: A GP's perspective

In: I Goldie (Ed) Public Mental Health: A handbook. 2010. Brighton: Pavilion.

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Why 10 minutes?

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No mean feat…….

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Monday morning surgery Psychological or physical?Monday morning surgery Psychological or physical?

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Tom, 16 – Tom, 16 – acneacne     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Philippa, 36 – Philippa, 36 – crying – mum died suddenly 3 weeks agocrying – mum died suddenly 3 weeks ago    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Harold, 57 – Harold, 57 – indigestion and lack of energyindigestion and lack of energy  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Mary, 84 – Mary, 84 – cannot swallow and losing weightcannot swallow and losing weight     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Rob, 27 – Rob, 27 – recently diagnosed with schizophrenia – recently diagnosed with schizophrenia – drooling asking if this is a drooling asking if this is a side-effect of new medsside-effect of new meds  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Helen, 14 – Helen, 14 – tired all the time, irritable and sleeplesstired all the time, irritable and sleepless     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Roger, 20 – Roger, 20 – diabetic 4 years – poor diabetic controldiabetic 4 years – poor diabetic control     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Donald, 29 – Donald, 29 – sick note + pain-killers for back pain after RTAsick note + pain-killers for back pain after RTA   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Parva, 4 – Parva, 4 – regularly attends: yet another cough and coldregularly attends: yet another cough and cold     ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Freda, 77 – Freda, 77 – depressed, early morning waking, no motivationdepressed, early morning waking, no motivation

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What GP’s have to know- the “generalist”

ESSENTIAL SERVICES; Coronary Vascular Disease , Stroke, Cancer, Diabetes, Hypertension, Mental Health, Asthma, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Epilepsy, Cervical Screening, Child Health Surveillance, Maternity Services, Contraception. ENHANCED SERVICES…

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GP’s main concerns - teenage mental health consultation

•“ Am I missing some thing ? Is this normal or a diagnosable problem?”

• “What to do if teenager referred with long wait times and comes back to me with mum saying “do something?”

•“Will I know if….self harming, suicidal ..what to do? ”

•“ If no cbt, do I prescribe?”

GP case- OC

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The GP * practice nurse consultation

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Zoe

Zoe Craddock is 15 and brought into see the GP with a sore throat by her mother.

Zoe has been having these sore throats for at least 6 months now. She isn’t very happy at home; she seems to get ill very often, and has to have time off school.

Her mum isn’t very sympathetic

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What tasks do you see

the GP perform?

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Tasks within the GP& practice nurse consultation

Initial consultation

Confidentiality

Rapport building

Dealing with parents

Opportunistic screening question

Second consultation

Mental Health Summary Diagnosis Risk

Self help - problem Solving

MH Promotion check list

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Consultation issues •Primary care probabilities

•Watchful waiting

•Clinical un certainity

•Management of physical co-morbidity

•Safety netting

•Use of continuity & follow up

•ConcordanceDr Maryanne Freer www.cwmt.org [email protected]

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What support do GP’s & practice teams need to mean more young people get the help they require?

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Do you know your GP’s?

Resources

Consultation approaches

Education

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GP * practice team education

Initial consultation

Confidentiality

Rapport building

Dealing with parents

Opportunistic screening question

Second consultation

Mental Health Summary Diagnosis Risk

Self help - problem Solving

MH Promotion check list

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GP & practice team education: The patient’s experience.

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GP & practice team education-HEAR DVD Confidentiality Dealing with parents Real cases – GP role models

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Life Situation

Altered thinking (ICE)

Altered physical Altered emotional

symptoms feelings

Case:OC/PMT Altered behaviour

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GP & practice team education: Mental Health summary, diagnosis, risk

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GP & practice team education: Clinical diagnostic & severity tool

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GP & practice team education: Primary & community check list

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Patient feedback on check list options http://www.youthhealthtalk.org/Young_people_depression_and_low_mood/Topic/3672

http://www.youthhealthtalk.org/Young_people_depression_and_low_mood/Topic/3672

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Resources: Web based self care: www.studentdepression.org

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Web based self care:www.youngminds.org.uk

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GP & practice team educationResource book- CWMT GP toolkit

The theory

Case studies

Self study activities with rationale for each

GP & team consultation tools

Reading material expanding on workshop sessions

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Practical help- what’s around

CWMT supported GP trainingTrain the trainers

sessions ( PMHW) Training to GP’s on the

teenage mental health consultation

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In summaryGP’s cant be forgotten if we want to

help young people with mental health problems

Young people voluntarily see their GP & can do “cradle to grave”

GP’s have critical role in early detection, prevention & functional family approach

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The last word – Jack Http://www.youthhealthtalk.org/Young_people_depression_and_low_mood/Topic/3673

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Over to you

•Any unanswered questions?

•What next?

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