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Technical Committee on

Foam-Water Sprinklers

M E M O R A N D U M

DATE: January 19, 2014

TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on

Foam-Water Sprinklers

FROM: Matt Klaus, Principal Fire Protection Engineer/NFPA Staff Liaison

SUBJECT: AUT-FOW AGENDA PACKAGE – F2014 Second Draft Meeting

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Enclosed is the agenda for the Second Draft meeting for NFPA 16, Standard for the

Installation of Foam-Water Sprinkler and Foam-Water Spray Systems. NFPA 16 has entered

the Fall 2014 revision cycle and will be developed using the updated NFPA Standards

Development Process. The purpose of this meeting is to resolve all of the Public Comments

that have been submitted for NFPA 16. Please review the attached public comments prior

to the meeting. If you have alternate suggestions for text changes, please come prepared

with the words and respective substantiation. The meeting will be a web-based meeting at

the following date and time:

Tuesday March 4, 2014

11:00 AM ET - 12:30 PM ET

Instructions for logging into the meeting are attached to the email invitation.

For administrative questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll at (617) 984-7952.

For technical questions, please feel free to contact Matt Klaus at (617) 984-7448. You can

also reach either of us via e-mail at [email protected] or [email protected].

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Table of Contents

Part 1 - Meeting Agenda

Part 2 - Committee Address List

Part 3 – F2014 FD Meeting Minutes

Part 4 – NFPA 16 Public Input

PART 1 – MEETING AGENDA

FIRST DRAFT MEETING

NFPA Technical Committee on

Foam-Water Sprinkler

Web-Based Meeting and Conference Call

Call-In Information:

(Toll Free):1-855-747-8824

Participant Code: 856438

Tuesday March 4, 2014

11:00 AM ET - 12:30 PM ET

AGENDA

1. Web-Meeting Initiated (11:00 AM) (Klaus)

2. Roll Call (11:05 AM) (Klaus)

3. Review of Distributed Meeting Materials (Klaus)

4. Approval of F2014 FD Meeting Minutes (Caputo)

5. New Process Terminology Review (Klaus)

6. Review of NFPA 16 Public Comments (Caputo)

7. Next Meeting/Assignments (Caputo)

8. Adjournment (Caputo)

PART 2 - TC ADDRESS LIST

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Automatic Sprinkler Systems

Matthew J. Klaus02/19/2014

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Robert G. Caputo

ChairFire & Life Safety AmericaConsolidated Fireprotection, Inc.657 Cantara LaneVista, CA 92081

SE 10/29/2012AUT-FOW

Terry L. Victor

SecretaryTyco/SimplexGrinnell705 Digital Drive, Suite NLinthicum, MD 21090Alternate: Jason E. Vermeulen

M 1/1/1989

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Michael E. Aaron

PrincipalThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.600 West Fulton Street, Suite 500Chicago, IL 60661-1241Alternate: Scott M. Twele

SE 4/16/1999AUT-FOW

V. Frank Bateman

PrincipalNational Foam1137 Rainbow DriveMartinez, CA 94553-4741

M 10/28/2008

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Tracey D. Bellamy

PrincipalTelgian Corporation900 Circle 75 Parkway, Suite 680Atlanta, GA 30339Alternate: Joseph P. Keltos

SE 7/1/1994AUT-FOW

William F. Blackmon

PrincipalPirelli North AmericaPO Box 1509Brentwood, TN 37024

U 10/27/2005

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Kevin F. Carrier

PrincipalMiami-Dade Fire Rescue DepartmentFire Prevention DivisionFire Engineering & Water Supply Bureau11805 SW 26th Street, Suite 150Miami, FL 33175

E 7/14/2004AUT-FOW

Nicholas A. Dawe

PrincipalCobb County Fire Marshal’s Office1595 County Services ParkwayMarietta, GA 30008

E 10/28/2008

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David L. Dixon

PrincipalSecurity Fire Protection4495 Mendenhall Road (38141)Memphis, TN 38141National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorAlternate: John L. Hulett

IM 1/1/1988AUT-FOW

Larry J. Edwards

PrincipalF. E. Moran, Inc.Special Hazard Systems2265 Carlson DriveNorthbrook, IL 60062Alternate: Andrew Aleksich

IM 3/21/2006

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Robert M. Gagnon

PrincipalGagnon Engineering2660 Daisy RoadWoodbine, MD 21797

SE 4/1/1994AUT-FOW

Richard Greenberg

PrincipalNew Jersey Department of Community AffairsCodes & Standards Division101 South Broad StreetPO Box 817Trenton, NJ 08625-0817Alternate: Carol Tillson

E 7/14/2004

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Robert Lee Holcombe, III

PrincipalXL Global Asset Protection Services512 Squire CircleClemson, SC 29631Alternate: Luis F. Arango

I 7/16/2003AUT-FOW

Kirk W. Humbrecht

PrincipalPhoenix Fire Systems, Inc.744 West Nebraska StreetFrankfort, IL 60423-1701Fire Suppression Systems AssociationAlternate: Edward G. Hugill

IM 7/1/1995

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J. Robert Ivey

PrincipalNational Automatic Sprinkler Fitters LU 669Education Fund7050 Oakland Mills Road, #100Columbia, MD 21046United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryAlternate: Joseph R. Mathews

L 7/26/2007AUT-FOW

Robert Kasiski

PrincipalFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: David B. Fuller

I 7/26/2007

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Scott T. Martorano

PrincipalThe Viking Corporation210 North Industrial Park RoadHastings, MI 49058

M 10/27/2009AUT-FOW

Bob D. Morgan

PrincipalFort Worth Fire Department1000 Throckmorton StreetFort Worth, TX 76102

E 3/21/2006

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Randy R. Nelson

PrincipalVFS Fire and Security Services1011 East Lacy AvenueAnaheim, CA 92805American Fire Sprinkler AssociationAlternate: Byron Weisz

IM 10/4/2001AUT-FOW

Thomas A. Noble

PrincipalCity of Henderson, Building & Fire Safety240 Water StreetPO Box 95050Henderson, NV 89009-5050

E 3/21/2006

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Maurice M. Pilette

PrincipalMechanical Designs Ltd.19 Erie DrivePO Box 2188Natick, MA 01760

SE 1/1/1993AUT-FOW

Austin G. Prather

PrincipalHayden and Company10328 IH-37Corpus Christi, TX 78410NFPA Industrial Fire Protection Section

M 10/28/2008

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Paul E. Rivers

Principal3M Company3M Center, Building 236-1B-07St. Paul, MN 55144-1000

M 1/16/1998AUT-FOW

Joseph L. Scheffey

PrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652

SE 1/1/1986

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Blake M. Shugarman

PrincipalUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Alternate: George E. Laverick

RT 11/2/2006AUT-FOW

Thomas M. Suehr

PrincipalLiberty Mutual InsuranceCommercial Markets, Property Risk Engineering2000 Westwood DriveWausau, WI 54401Property Casualty Insurers Association of AmericaAlternate: Dale H. Kolisch

I 10/1/1993

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Jeffery W. Sutton

PrincipalGlobal Risk Consultants Corporation350 Highway 7, Suite 220Excelsior, MN 55331-3170

SE 3/21/2006AUT-FOW

Fred K. Walker

PrincipalUS Department of the Air ForceAFCEC/COS139 Barnes Drive, Suite 1Tyndall AFB, FL 32403-5319

U 1/1/1987

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Kevin M. Wypychoski

PrincipalPrecision Mechanical Services, Inc.PO Box 79Guilford, CT 06437

IM 3/4/2009AUT-FOW

Scott D. Henderson

Voting AlternateFireman’s Fund Insurance Company7 Hilltop Farm RoadAuburn, MA 01501Voting Alt. to FFIC Rep.

I 1/14/2005

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Andrew Aleksich

AlternateF. E. Moran, Inc.Special Hazard Systems2265 Carlson DriveNorthbrook, IL 60062Principal: Larry J. Edwards

IM 10/29/2012AUT-FOW

Luis F. Arango

AlternateXL Global Asset Protection Services21707 Shallow Glen LaneKaty, TX 77450Principal: Robert Lee Holcombe, III

I 7/16/2003

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David B. Fuller

AlternateFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: Robert Kasiski

I 7/26/2007AUT-FOW

Edward G. Hugill

AlternateJanus Fire Systems1102 Rupcich Drive, Millennium ParkCrown Point, IN 46307Fire Suppression Systems AssociationPrincipal: Kirk W. Humbrecht

IM 8/2/2010

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John L. Hulett

AlternateWestern States Fire Protection Company7020 South Tucson WayCentennial, CO 80112National Fire Sprinkler AssociationContractorPrincipal: David L. Dixon


Joseph P. Keltos

AlternateTelgian Corporation551 Eric LaneLanding, NJ 07850Principal: Tracey D. Bellamy

SE 3/4/2008

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Dale H. Kolisch

AlternateLiberty Mutual Property27201 Bella Vista Parkway, Suite 210Warrenville, IL 60555Property Casualty Insurers Association of AmericaPrincipal: Thomas M. Suehr

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George E. Laverick

AlternateUL LLC333 Pfingsten RoadNorthbrook, IL 60062-2096Principal: Blake M. Shugarman

RT 4/15/2004

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Joseph R. Mathews

AlternateSprinkler Fitters Local 692 JATC14004 McNulty RoadPhiladelphia, PA 19154United Assn. of Journeymen & Apprentices of thePlumbing & Pipe Fitting IndustryPrincipal: J. Robert Ivey

L 7/23/2008AUT-FOW

Carol Tillson

AlternateNew Jersey Department of Community AffairsCodes & Standards Division101 South Broad StreetPO Box 817Trenton, NJ 08625Principal: Richard Greenberg

E 10/29/2012

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Scott M. Twele

AlternateThe RJA Group, Inc.Rolf Jensen & Associates, Inc.591 Camino de la Reina, Suite 1025San Diego, CA 92108Principal: Michael E. Aaron

SE 8/9/2011AUT-FOW

Jason E. Vermeulen

AlternateTyco Fire Suppression ProductsOne Stanton StreetMarinette, WI 54143Principal: Terry L. Victor

M 10/23/2013

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Byron Weisz

AlternateCen-Cal Fire Systems, Inc.PO Box 1284Lodi, CA 95241-1284American Fire Sprinkler AssociationPrincipal: Randy R. Nelson


Matthew J. Klaus

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

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PART 3 – F2014 FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES

Technical Committee on

Foam-Water Sprinklers February 7, 2013

Attendees:

See attached sign-in sheet.

1. Bob Caputo (TC Chair) called the meeting to order at 1:00 PM (ET) and began

introductions.

2. The F2010 ROC minutes were approved.

3. Matt Klaus gave the staff report and a presentation on the meeting procedures.

4. Bob Caputo discussed the logistics for the meeting and the order of the task group

reporting.

5. The committee processed the public input that was included in the meeting

agenda. See the First Draft Report for the official actions on the public input and

the First Revisions created by the TC.

6. Meeting adjourned at 4:00 pm on 2/7/14.

PART 4 – NFPA 16 PUBLIC COMMENTS

Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 16-2013 [ Section No. 3.3.6 ]

3.3.6* Foam-Water Sprinkler System.

A piping network connected to a source of foam concentrate and to a water supply. The piping network isequipped with discharge devices, consisting of sprinklers or nozzles, for discharging the extinguishingagent over the area to be protected. The piping is connected to the water supply through a control valvethat is commonly actuated by operation of automatic detection equipment installed in the same areas asopen discharge devices. When this valve opens, water flows into the piping system, foam concentrate isinjected into the water, and the resulting foam solution discharging through the discharge devicesgenerates and distributes foam. Upon exhaustion of the foam concentrate supply, water discharge followsand continues until manually shut off. Existing deluge sprinkler systems that have been converted to theuse of aqueous film-forming foam or film-forming fluoroprotein foam are considered foam-water sprinklersystems.

3.3.6.1* Foam-Water Deluge System.

A foam-water sprinkler system employing open discharge devices, which are attached to a piping systemthat is connected to a water supply through a valve that is opened by the operation of a detection system,which is installed in the same areas as the discharge devices. When this valve opens, water flows into thepiping system and discharges from all discharge devices attached thereto.

3.3.6.2* Foam-Water Dry Pipe System.

A foam-water sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers or nozzles that are attached to a pipingsystem that contains air or nitrogen under pressure, the release of which (as from the opening of asprinkler) permits the water pressure to open a valve known as a dry pipe valve. The water then flows intothe piping system and out the opened sprinklers.

3.3.6.3* Foam-Water Preaction System.

A foam-water sprinkler system employing automatic sprinklers or nozzles attached to a piping systemcontaining air that might or might not be under pressure, with a supplemental detection system installed inthe same area as the sprinklers. Actuation of the detection system opens a valve that permits water to flowinto the sprinkler piping system and to be discharged from any sprinklers that have activated.

3.3.6.4* Foam-Water Spray System.

A foam-water sprinkler system designed to use nozzles rather than sprinklers.

3.3.6.5* Preprimed System.

A wet pipe system containing foam solution.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

The sentences proposed to be deleted in the definitions are not part of the definition but are an explanation which should be placed either in the annex (as recommended in public comments # 3 through 6) or in a separate part of the standard. Definitions are not enforceable and requirements or additional information should be placed out side the definitions area.

This comment is being submitted on behalf of the Glossary Committee on Terminology.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler

Organization: GBH International

Affilliation: NFPA GOT

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Submittal Date: Mon Nov 04 21:17:24 EST 2013

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Public Comment No. 8-NFPA 16-2013 [ Section No. 5.11.2 ]

5.11.2

Unless required by other standards or product listings, strainers shall be required only where there aredischarge orifices that are 3⁄8 in. (10 mm) or smaller.


CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 1 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 14.

Please clarify what system components are being referred to in section 5.11 (concentrate line or strainers protecting nozzles/orifices). If the dimensions in this section refer to nozzles, the committee should look at using k-factor instead of a dimension in inches. If this strainer is being installed as a means for protecting the pump, this should be clarified by the technical committee.

Related Item

First Revision No. 14-NFPA 16-2013 [Section No. 5.11.2]


Submitter Full Name: CC on AUT-AAC

Organization: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

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Submittal Date: Thu Nov 14 13:15:53 EST 2013


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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 16-2013 [ Section No. 7.3.3.2 ]

7.3.3.2

Where actual system discharge density exceeds the minimum as specified in 7.3.2.1, a proportionatereduction in the duration of the foam discharge time shall be permitted, but in no case shall the duration beless than 7 minutes.


Discharge could be interpreted to be in terms of flow (i.e., gallons per minute) or in this case, density.


Submitter Full Name: Bill Galloway

Organization: Southern Regional Fire Code De

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Submittal Date: Tue Oct 29 14:49:01 EDT 2013


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Public Comment No. 9-NFPA 16-2013 [ Section No. 7.4.1.5 ]

7.4.1.5

For purposes of computing friction loss in piping, the C values shall be used for the Hazen-Williamsformula in accordance with Table 7.4.1.5.

Table 7.4.1.5 Hazen-Williams C Values

Pipe or Tube C Value*

Unlined cast or ductile iron 100

Black steel (dry systems including preaction) 100

Black steel (wet systems including deluge) 120

Galvanized steel (dry systems including preaction) 100

Galvanized steel (wet systems including deluge) 120

Plastic (listed) all 150

Cement-lined cast or ductile iron 140

Copper tube or stainless steel 150

Asbestos cement 140

Concrete 140

*The authority having jurisdiction is permitted to allow other C values. [13:Table 23.4.4.7.1]


CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 3 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 5 and also related to Public Input No. 7.

Review the issue of c-value for galvanized piping. This item was revised in the 2013 edition of NFPA 13 and will be reviewed again as part of the A2015 revision cycle for NFPA 13. The committee is urged to review the work done at the NFPA 13 First Draft meeting to ascertain the point of last consensus of the NFPA 13 TC on this issue.

Related Item

First Revision No. 5-NFPA 16-2013 [Section No. 7.4.1.5]

Public Input No. 7-NFPA 16-2013 [Section No. 7.4.1.5]


Submitter Full Name: CC on AUT-AAC

Organization: CC on Automatic Sprinkler Systems

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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 16-2013 [ Section No. A.3.3.6 ]

A.3.3.6 Foam-Water Sprinkler System.

The piping network is equipped with discharge devices, consisting of sprinklers or nozzles, for dischargingthe extinguishing agent over the area to be protected. The piping is connected to the water supply througha control valve that is commonly actuated by operation of automatic detection equipment installed in thesame areas as open discharge devices. When this valve opens, water flows into the piping system, foamconcentrate is injected into the water, and the resulting foam solution discharging through the dischargedevices generates and distributes foam. Upon exhaustion of the foam concentrate supply, water dischargefollows and continues until manually shut off. Existing deluge sprinkler systems that have been convertedto the use of aqueous film-forming foam or film-forming fluoroprotein foam are considered foam-watersprinkler systems.

These systems can be preprimed with foam solution. This solution would remain in the piping until thesystem is called upon to operate.

Preprimed systems could require draining, flushing, and repriming on a periodic basis (see Section 9.3).This procedure will require an investment in both time and material and should be programmed into thetotal system operating cost.


The sentences proposed to be deleted from the definitions in public comment # 2 are not part of the definition but are an explanation which should be placed either in the annex (as recommended in public comment # 3) or in a separate part of the standard. Definitions are not enforceable and requirements or additional information should be placed out side the definitions area.


Related Public Comments for This Document

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Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 16-2013 [Section No. 3.3.6]





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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 16-2013 [ Section No. A.3.3.6.1 ]

A.3.3.6.1 Foam-Water Deluge System.

Foam-water sprinklers are open-type sprinklers designed to do the following:

(1) Receive foam solution (water plus liquid concentrate)

(2) Direct the solution through an integral foam maker, the nozzle action of which breaks the solution intospray and discharges it into a mixing tube, where it combines with air drawn in through openings in thehousing

(3) Provide mixing chamber capacity for development of the air foam

(4) Direct the formed foam discharging from the open end of the mixing tube against a deflector, shapedto distribute the foam in a pattern essentially comparable to the water distribution pattern ofpresent-day standard sprinklers (nomenclature from NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation ofSprinkler Systems) and to do so with essentially no impingement of the foam on the ceiling

(5) Develop a water distribution pattern directly comparable to that of standard sprinklers, in the case ofdischarge of water only (i.e., in the absence of foam)

The normal direction of discharge from foam-water sprinklers is downward. To provide a choice ininstallation design, foam-water sprinklers are produced for installation in the upright position and in thependent position with the pattern of discharge in either case in the downward direction. Sprinkler deflectorsare formed to produce the required discharge pattern, which could mean differing shapes of deflectors foreach of the two positions of installation. The variation in the shape of deflectors is illustrated in FigureA.3.3.6.1.

When the valve in a foam-water deluge system opens, water flows into the piping system and dischargesfrom all discharge devices attached thereto.

Figure A.3.3.6.1 Variations in Deflector Shape.




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A.3.3.6.2 Foam-Water Dry Pipe System.

After the valve is opened, the water then flows into the piping system and out the opened sprinklers.

Dry pipe systems are inherently slower in operation and have a tendency to develop internal scale. Sincethe foam solution would be proportioned into the system upon operation, the first discharge would be aneffective foam. However, due to the slower operation, this should be considered the least desirable type ofsprinkler system for closed-head foam-water sprinkler application.








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A.3.3.6.3 Foam-Water Preaction System.

Actuation of the detection system opens a valve that permits water to flow into the sprinkler piping systemand to be discharged from any sprinklers that have activated.

These systems combine the features of both wet pipe and dry pipe systems. The piping is empty and mightor might not contain air under low pressure for supervision of the piping. There is a separate detectionsystem that operates the water control valve to release foam solution into the piping. (The actuating meansof the valve is described in NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems.) This detectionsystem should be more sensitive than the sprinkler elements.

With this arrangement, foam solution is usually released into the piping before the sprinklers operate sothat, when they do, there is an immediate discharge, as with a wet pipe system. To ensure this discharge,supervision of the actuation system is recommended.

Foam solution would be proportioned into the system upon operation, so there is no need for prepriming.Overall response time generally approaches that of a wet pipe system. Actual time of foam discharge woulddepend on the type of separate detection system used and the type of fire. With a rapidly developing fire,the sprinklers might begin to operate very close to the initial operation of the separate detection system,and the piping might not have time to fill with foam solution to achieve immediate discharge. With a slowlydeveloping fire, there would be sufficient time to fill the piping, and there would be a discharge of fresh foamupon sprinkler operation.

These systems are more complex than dry pipe and wet pipe systems, and this factor should beconsidered.














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