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Daniele De Luca (MD, PhD) Division of Pediatrics and Neonatal Critical Care South Paris University Hospitals, Medical Center “A. Beclere” (Paris) & Dept of Anesthesia and Critical Care, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Rome ESPNIC Respiratory Section Deputy Chair ESPR/ESN Scientific Content Manager and Officer for Accreditation TC monitoring in the NICU: The value of TcpO 2

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Daniele De Luca (MD, PhD) Division of Pediatrics and Neonatal Critical Care

South Paris University Hospitals, Medical Center “A. Beclere” (Paris)

& Dept of Anesthesia and Critical Care, Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Rome

ESPNIC Respiratory Section Deputy Chair ESPR/ESN Scientific Content Manager and Officer for Accreditation

TC monitoring in the NICU: The value of TcpO2

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Are they different ? FiO2 (%)

Air = 21%

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Temperature 37.5°C

Temperature 39.5°C

PARACETAMOL 250 mg

ZERO PARACETAMOL

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Air (21% Oxygen)

40 % Oxygen

SatO2 96%

SatO2 100%

PaO2 90

PaO2 50

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PaO2/FiO2 = 150

FiO2 = 40% PaO2 = ???

Arterial catheters or Transcutaneous PaO2

Very rare arterial catheters - rare Transcutaneous PaO2

Adults with A-RDS Babies with RDS

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Does neonatal ARDS exists???

YES! (Why not?)

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Same ???

Meconium aspiration

Sepsis ARDS

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Nguyen S, Pediatrics 2002

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OI cut-offs according to the PALICC definition of Pediatric ARDS

MONTREUX DEFINITION: An expert consensus for neonatal ARDS

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How to evaluate oxygenation ? Many scores – combinaisons of FiO2 & PaO2

• PaO2/FiO2 ratio

• a/A ratio

• A-a gradient

• Oxygenation index (OI)

• Others…

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TOMMY 30% Oxygen – CPAP 7 cmH2O

MAXIME 45% Oxygen – CPAP 4 cmH2O

Who’s the sickest?

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OI = FiO2 (%) x Mean airway pressure (cmH2O)

PaO2 (mmHg)

What could increase oxygenation

What you obtain

To pay

To buy

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TOMMY 30% Oxygen – CPAP 7 cmH2O

PaO2 = 48 mmHg

MAXIME 45% Oxygen – CPAP 4 cmH2O

PaO2 = 65 mmHg

Who’s the sickest?

OI = 2.8

OI = 4.4

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OI = FiO2 (%) x Mean airway pressure (cmH2O)

PaO2 (mmHg)

What could increase oxygenation

What you obtain

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• Not influenced by hemoglobine (anemia, high Ht, hemoglobin anomalies…)

• Not influenced by age

• Can be used with all ventilation

• VERY KNOWN – used for many years

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Surfactant

HFOV

iNO ECMO

OXYGENATION INDEX

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No excuses!!!!!

• UAC (art umb cat)

• PAC (periph art cat)

• TC Monitoring

• Arterialised capillary blood gas

Adult ICU Pediatric

ICU Neonatal

ICU

ESPECIALLY PRETERM BABIES NEED IT!!!!

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Care Customization (Clamart-Paris experience)

Minimim Monitoring: OI Measurement – Punctual Transcutaneous Monitoring + 1 Capillary BGA

Medium Monitoring: OI Measurement – Transcutaneous Monitoring + Capillary BGA

Accurate Monitoring: Arterial Cat, BGA & OI measurement

Advanced Monitoring: Arterial Cat, BGA & OI measurement,

NIRS, hemodynamic

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De Luca et al, J Puericolture in press

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1. PaO2 measurement is essential to take care of premature babies with severe respiratory disease ... or we don’t have visibility

2. Physiology is the same for adults and babies

3. PaO2 measurement is possible with premature babies in a non-invasive way… so there is no reason not doing it

Strategies

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Why not?

No reason not doing it If we can get more accurate information and do not stay at global level... why not? Is anyone would do hemodynamic interventions without echo or other assessments ? Would you give paracetamol without measuring temperature?

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Thank You for Your attention!