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1 SUMMARY STAKEHOLDER SCIENCE AND STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY COMMITTEE FIELD VISIT LAKE TAHOE WEST RESTORATION PARTNERSHIP Wednesday, June 7, 8:00 am to 4:00 pm Ward Creek, Blackwood Canyon, and Meeks Bay All meeting materials are publicly available on the Lake Tahoe West website http://nationalforests.org/laketahoewest. For questions please contact the program manager/facilitator Dorian Fougères at [email protected] or (530) 902-8281. Meeting Synopsis The Lake Tahoe West Restoration Partnership (Lake Tahoe West) held its first Stakeholder Science Committee and Stakeholder Community Committee Field Visit on June 7, 2017. The trip included exploring Ward Creek, Blackwood Canyon, and Meeks Bay, on the west shore of the Lake Tahoe Basin. The goals of the field visit were to examine places that embodied difficult restoration challenges on the west shore, and help each other begin to see and read the landscape in new and different ways. In each location, stakeholders learned about the history of vegetation treatments and prescribed fire; shared what they were seeing on the landscape; broke into small groups to travel deeper into discussion; and came back to share highlights of small group conversations. Topics covered steep slopes, stream channels, ecological fire, riparian corridors, sensitive wildlife, aspen stands, the structure and composition of vegetation, meadows, and cultural resources, including how these interacted with public health & safety and recreation values on the landscape. The next Stakeholder Community Committee and Stakeholder Science Committee meetings will be on Thursday, July 6, from 9 am to 12 pm, and 1 pm to 5 pm, respectively. The location will be the U.S. Forest Service Lake Tahoe Basin Management Unit, in South Lake Tahoe. Contents Meeting Synopsis ........................................................................................................................... 1 Action Items ................................................................................................................................... 2 1. Welcome and Opening Remarks ............................................................................................ 2 2. Ward Creek ............................................................................................................................. 2 3. Blackwood Canyon.................................................................................................................. 5 4. Meeks Bay ............................................................................................................................... 9 5. Closing Remarks .................................................................................................................... 12 6. Attendance ........................................................................................................................... 12 This meeting summary paraphrases individual comments and suggestions. Statements do not indicate consensus of the group unless they are preceded by the word “AGREEMENT”. Statements are not attributed unless spoken by one of the organizing or participating agencies, or by a presenter.

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STAKEHOLDERSCIENCEANDSTAKEHOLDERCOMMUNITYCOMMITTEEFIELDVISITLAKETAHOEWESTRESTORATIONPARTNERSHIPWednesday,June7,8:00amto4:00pmWardCreek,BlackwoodCanyon,andMeeksBay

AllmeetingmaterialsarepubliclyavailableontheLakeTahoeWestwebsitehttp://nationalforests.org/laketahoewest.Forquestionspleasecontacttheprogram

manager/facilitatorDorianFougè[email protected](530)902-8281.MeetingSynopsisTheLakeTahoeWestRestorationPartnership(LakeTahoeWest)helditsfirstStakeholderScienceCommitteeandStakeholderCommunityCommitteeFieldVisitonJune7,2017.ThetripincludedexploringWardCreek,BlackwoodCanyon,andMeeksBay,onthewestshoreoftheLakeTahoeBasin.Thegoalsofthefieldvisitweretoexamineplacesthatembodieddifficultrestorationchallengesonthewestshore,andhelpeachotherbegintoseeandreadthelandscapeinnewanddifferentways.Ineachlocation,stakeholderslearnedaboutthehistoryofvegetationtreatmentsandprescribedfire;sharedwhattheywereseeingonthelandscape;brokeintosmallgroupstotraveldeeperintodiscussion;andcamebacktosharehighlightsofsmallgroupconversations.Topicscoveredsteepslopes,streamchannels,ecologicalfire,ripariancorridors,sensitivewildlife,aspenstands,thestructureandcompositionofvegetation,meadows,andculturalresources,includinghowtheseinteractedwithpublichealth&safetyandrecreationvaluesonthelandscape.ThenextStakeholderCommunityCommitteeandStakeholderScienceCommitteemeetingswillbeonThursday,July6,from9amto12pm,and1pmto5pm,respectively.ThelocationwillbetheU.S.ForestServiceLakeTahoeBasinManagementUnit,inSouthLakeTahoe.Contents

MeetingSynopsis...........................................................................................................................1ActionItems...................................................................................................................................21. WelcomeandOpeningRemarks............................................................................................22. WardCreek.............................................................................................................................23. BlackwoodCanyon..................................................................................................................54. MeeksBay...............................................................................................................................95. ClosingRemarks....................................................................................................................126. Attendance...........................................................................................................................12

Thismeetingsummaryparaphrasesindividualcommentsandsuggestions.Statementsdonot

indicateconsensusofthegroupunlesstheyareprecededbytheword“AGREEMENT”.Statementsarenotattributedunlessspokenbyoneoftheorganizingorparticipatingagencies,

orbyapresenter.

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ActionItems1. Documentation&PermittingCoordinationTeamtoreviewTRPAslopetreatment

restrictions.2. DoriantosharefishermarkingguidelinesincludingclumpidentificationfromtheDinkey

LandscapeRestorationProject.3. Doriantodrafthigh-level,generalgoalsforSSCreview,andsubsequentrefinementduring

Phase2.

1. WelcomeandOpeningRemarks• Mr.MikeVollmer,LeadfortheLTWInteragencyDesignTeam(IADT)andTahoeRegional

PlanningAgency(TRPA),andMr.BrianGarrett,IADTandLakeTahoeBasinManagementUnit(LTBMU),thankedeveryoneforattending,andreviewedthedesignoftheday,theagendaforthestops,andthemap.Theynotedthatthegoalofthefieldvisitwastocollectivelyexamineseveralsitesthatembodydifficultrestorationchallengesonthewestshore;andhelpeachotherbegintoseeandreadthelandscapeinnewanddifferentways.Theyalsobriefedthegrouponsafetyprotocols.

o Thefieldvisitmapisonthenextpage.• Mr.DorianFougères,LakeTahoeWestRestorationPartnership(LTW)Facilitatorand

NationalForestFoundation,ledintroductionsandreviewedthegroundrules.• Mr.MasonBindl,TRPA,remindedthegroupthattheLTWonlinegeospatialmappingtoolis

liveandcanbeaccessedbyanyoneathttp://gis.trpa.org/laketahoewest/Mr.Bindlalsobriefedthegroupontheelectronictablet&laptopsthathehadloadedwithEcObjectlayers,toallowparticipantstolocatethemselvesatthefield,verifytheaccuracyofdata,andimprovetheirabilitytointerpretthedata.

Therewerenointerestedpartycomments.

2. WardCreekMr.GarrettandMr.Vollmerorientedthegrouptothelocation,includingadescriptionoffieldconditionsabriefreviewofhistoricalvegetationandprescribedfiretreatments.

• ThelandisprimarilyForestService.Theareahasthekindofhomogeneousforeststructurethatischaracteristicofthewestshore.Steepslopesandephemeralstreamsmakeaccessdifficult.Conifersareencroachingtheaspenstand.Prescribedfirewasusedin2004fuelsreductiontreatments.ThelanduphillisCaliforniaTahoeConservancyland,andhashadsomesmalltreehand-thinningandpile-burning(butnobroadcastburning),aswellasmechanicalthinningupto24”diameteratbreastheight(dbh)followedbymastication.TheareaisinthedefensezoneoftheWildlandUrbanInterface.

Discussionfollowed.

• Historicaltreatmentswerepartoffuelstreatmentsthatdidnotpayattentiontheheterogeneityofvegetation.

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Ward Creek - Stop 19:20 - 10:30 AM

Blackwood Canyon - Stop 211 - 12:30 PM

Meeks Meadow - Stop 32 - 3:30 PM

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o Thereisyounger,goodgroundvegetationwherethereareopenings.Mortalityisshowingupinsomeplaces.

§ Youcanseeevidenceofarmillariadiseaseandstalactiformblisterrust,whicharepartofacommonpackageofdiseasesonthewestshore.

o Thenorthsideismoredensethanthesouthasonewouldexpect,thereisalargeamountofpine,theaspenlookgoodandregenerating.

o Thetreeslooktobeallofasimilarage.o Becauseofpastdisturbances,onecan’tassumethatthesizeofatreeequalsits

age.Wewouldbemoreinterestedinvariabilityinsizeclass.Thisisnotmappedoutwell.

• Forspatialvariability,EcObjectshowsthatacrossthecreekisanorth-facingslopethatisdominatedbysmallclumpsthatareallconnected.Wewillneedtoeithercombinethisindicatorwithothersorseethepolygonstofurtherinterpretthis.

o Regardingclimaticwaterdeficit,thescaleiscoarse(270meterpixels),butgenerallylowdeficit.

o Regardingvegetationtype,bothsidesshowupaswhitefir,mixedconifer,andredfir,asonewouldexpect.

o EcObjectappearspowerfulinthatitletsyouseesomuchfromonevantage.Typicallyyouwillalsowanttoseesitesfromseveraldifferentviewpoints.

• Thecontourofthecanyonmakesithardtouseprescribedfirehere,becauseeachnightsmokegoesdownthedrainage,whichispreciselywherehomeare.Peoplearereluctanttodealwithsmokeeachnight.

o Thereisalsoalargeneighborhoodseveralmilesupthecanyon,andWardCreekBoulevardisanevacuationrouteforthem.Thisraisesthepriorityoffuelstreatments.

o Thesteepslopesmightmeanthatprescribedfireistheonlyoption.o Hazardreferstothefuelloadingonaplot,whileriskisbasedonthehazardplus

thevalueofstructuresandaccess.o IfIcoulddoanythingIwanted,Iwouldinvestinhigh-hangingfruit.Wewould

needtobuildfirecontainersthatincreasethecomfortoffiremanagers–asinourEssentialManagementQuestions(#9).Typicallywebuildwhatiseasyandcheap.Weneedtochangeourapproach.

• Theareahasgoodwarblerandvireohabitat,theyareclosed-canopyassociates,andaspen.

o Inthinkingaboutresilienceandbiologicalintegrityandfire,thecanyonispartofalargewatershedthatsupportslargerbiota.Connectivity(orcontinuity)especiallyalongtheripariancorridorisimportantforlarge-bodiedanimalslikeAmericanmarten,amedium-sizedcarnivore.

• Soilslooklooseinmanyareas,andthereishightreedensity.o Thecreeklooksunstableanderoding.o Thecanyonwasbuiltthroughglacialmorainessoisnaturallydown-cutting.

• Itwouldbedifficulttotreatthecreekchannelbyremovingsomeofthelodgepolepinethatareencroaching,becauseofequipmentexclusions.Powerlinesalsomaketree

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removaldifficult.Moredeadtreesintheareawouldincreasethechanceoffirecarryingupthestreamcorridorlikeawick.

• OneapproachtotreatingvegetationcouldbetorevisethecurrentTRPArestrictionsontreatingslopessteeperthan30%.ThestateForestPracticeRuleswouldallowthis,andwecouldexplorenewtechnologiesliketracked,articulatedharvesterswithself-levelingcabs,andwalkingexcavators.Youstillwouldwanttokeepanyheavyequipmentoutofsomezones.

o TheLTWDocumentation&PermittingCoordinationTeam(D&PCT)shouldexamineTRPAregulationsnow.

o ACTIONITEM:Documentation&PermittingCoordinationTeamtoreviewTRPAslopetreatmentrestrictions.

• Therearealsohistoricloggingroads,likethegradeacrossthecreek.TouchingthemwouldactiveconcernsabouttheStateHistoricPreservationAct.

o Thereisagateclosingthestartoftheroadacrossthecreekandthroughanaspenstand.

o Therewouldalsobeprehistoricandhistoricarchaeologicalconcernsalongtheriparianarea.

o AssessingimpactstohistoricroadbedspertheTribal/StateHistoricalPreservationOfficeisverycostly.ThisiswhytheForestServicetypicallypreferstoavoidtreatingthoseareas,andwilloftencreateanewroadparalleltoahistoricroadbedifaccessisrequired.Thiscanendupincreasingerosionimpacts.

o StateParkshashadsuccessworkingwiththeirculturalresourcespecialistto,forexample,havetreesgrowintooldfoundations,andavoidusingfireinhistoricareas.

• Thinkingaboutvegetationresilience,oneneedstoconsiderthisyear’ssnowfallinthecontextofclimatescenariosaroundsubstantiallywarmertemperaturesinJanuaryandFebruary.Withmorerainfallingassnow,floodssimilarto1997wouldbeexpectedtooccurmoreoften,butrunoffrapidlycomparedtosnowandflowlessfarintothesummer.

3. BlackwoodCanyon

Mr.GarrettandMr.Vollmerorientedthegrouptothelocation,includingadescriptionoffieldconditionsabriefreviewofhistoricalvegetationandprescribedfiretreatments.

• ThisareaisprimarilyForestServicelandintheWUI.WeareattheboundaryofanareathatwasmechanicallytreatedandanarealeftuntouchedbecauseitisaRiparianConservationArea(RCA).

o Mechanicalharvestingandmasticationwasdoneinthemid-2000sforfuelreduction,fromthecampgroundonward.Thisincludedmechanicalthinningupto30”,upto19”intheCaliforniaspottedowl(CSO)ProtectedActivityCenter(PAC),andupto24”inthegoshawkPAC.

• Peoplehavepetitionedseveraltimestolistthespottedowlasathreatenedspecies.ItisnotwidespreadintheBasin,only5onthewestsideandasixthinthenortheast.The

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managementapproachforPACstypicallyistoleave300acresaroundthenestforforaging,andthenoutto1000acresasthehomerangecorearea(HRCA),fortheterritoryofthebreedingpair.

Discussionfollowed.

• RegardingEcObject,itdoespickupdifferentstanddensitywell.TheLiDARitisbasedonwastakenin2010,soafterthetreatments.Itshowsalotofhomogeneityaroundthemid-seralstageofvegetation,ratherthanadiversityofseralstages.

• Evenifweweretothinrightuptothediameterlimit,weprobablywouldnotmeetfireobjectives.

• It’simportanttonotonlylookatthisstand,butratherallofBlackwood.• Thedriverofthistreatmentwasfuelsreduction.Onecoulddesignafuelstreatmentfor

thePAC.o Thehighfuelloadingandeven-agednatureofthestandmeansthatfirewould

likelycauseshort-termimpactstothebirds,eventhoughtheaimwaslong-termresilience.

• ThemanagementdirectiveforhowtotreatPACsisfixed,andwillremaininplaceunlessthehabitatisdeemednolongersuitable.

o ThishashappenedontheRimFireandKingFirelandscapes.ThehabitatwasburnedhencethePACsnolongerexist.

o WearenotawareofexampleswherePAChabitathasbeendesignatedasnolongersuitablebasedonsomecombinationofothercriteria,likedurationsincelastoccupancy,etc.

§ Weneedtothinkabouthowevenwhat’scurrentlyahigh-valueresourcecanbecomemorefluidoverspaceandtime,becausethelandscapeisdynamic.

§ Theabilitytodispersetreatmentsoverspaceandtimetoreducetheirshort-termimpactsonsensitivewildlifeconstitutes“thepromiseoflandscape”–it’swhatlandscape-scalerestorationmakespossible,comparedwithonlylookingatafewthousandacres.

• WedonotknowtheactivitystatusofthebirdsinthisPAC.o Ifthey’reactive,thiswouldbeacriticalplacetomonitor.o Somenewmonitoringactivitiesarebeingplannedandmightalreadyinclude

BlackwoodCanyon.o Otherfactorsthatcaninfluencegoshawkreproductivityareconecrops,latewet

storms,andothervariables.Somonitoringdatarequirescarefulinterpretation.• Thehistoricaltreatmentswehavedonehavenotmadethisarearesilienttoinsectsor

drought.• Wecouldburnintheuntreatedarea,butthisraisesthequestionofhowmuchfire-

causedtreemoralitypeoplewouldbewillingtoaccept.Thepublicoftenhasahardtimeunderstandingwhywewouldbekillingtrees.

o Further,deadtreeswouldthenfalloverandcould,giventhedensity,increasefuelloads.Theninturn,wemightnotreburntheareaunlessweweretofirst

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thinit.Soitseemsthereisacircularitywhichmeansthatsoonerorlateryou’regoingtoneedtodosomemechanicalthinningtobeabletotheneventuallystartusingfireastheregularmaintenancemanagementtoolonitsown.

o Thispointstotheneedtoplantreatmentsinawaythatanticipatesachangingsequenceoftreatmentsovertime.

• Thetypeofuntreatedconditionsweseehavehighspeciesvalue,whichsuggeststhiskindofstandwasrepresentedonthehistoriclandscape.

o TheIADThasbeenlookingatthediversityofseralstagesasanindicator.• MostPACsintheSierrahavehadtreatment,thereisagoodamountofpublished

literature.• Asarecreationaluser,theviewshedcreatedbythinning,evenjust50or75infromthe

road,isvaluable.Italsowouldreducetheriskofincidentalfirefromacigaretteorvehiclealongthecorridor.Suchthinningalsoincreasesthesunlightontheroads,makingformorerapidsnowmelt,andalsobetterdrivingvisibility.

o Weneedtotakeadvantageofexistingrecreationsitestobuildeducationbeforestartingtreatments,includingmeetingpeopleinhigh-useareas.

o Firehasmultiplebenefitsbutpeopledonotlikeblacktreesandsmoke,soeducationwillhavetoanticipateandprovideafoundationforacceptingthis.

o MoreburningwillaffecttheBasin’srecreationandtourismeconomy.Aggressiveeducationandasmuchspecificityaspossibleaboutthetiminganddurationofburningwillbecritical.

o Mr.Fougères:Alongtheselines,theimportanceofeducationandinformation-sharingiscalledoutintheLTWCommunication&EducationPlan,andstaffhavediscussedtheideaofdevelopingmessagingaroundadesignated“BurnSeasoninTahoe”sothatbusinessandvisitorscanmoreeasilyanticipatewhensmokemightbeprevalent.

o Ifsuchanideaweredeveloped,itshouldlineupwiththeshoulderseasonforrecreation.Manyhotelsalreadyshutdownduringthisperiod.

• Blackwooddoesnothaveelevatedlevelsoftreemortalitycurrently.Withregardtomaintainingfutureresilience,manyofourtreeshaveincrediblecapacityforgeneflow,iftherearefutureconditionsthatourtreatmentscannotmitigate.

• Regardingclimate,scientistscanprovideinnumerablefuturescenarios,fromwhichonecanpickandchooseorbundle.What’slikelymorehelpfulistolookattheextreme

episodesinthepredictions,andfocusonthebreakpoints–nottheaverages–in

futureclimates.Thesearelikelymostinformativeforvulnerabilityandresilience.o Thetemperaturedifferencebetweenthetreatedareaandtheriparianareais

notableandpointstomicroclimaticdifferences.Thereisalsomorewindthrowinthetreatedarea,andsnowwouldmeltfaster.

o IntheWUIorevenoutside,multipleobjectivesriskcreatingmorehomogeneityonthelandscape.Fromaclimaticperspective,microclimatevariabilitywillbe

yourfriend.Forresilience,onewouldwantpocketsofdifferenthabitat.o Regardingcoldpooling,theBasinholdscoolairtoadegreenotseenelsewhere

intheSierra,likelybecausethesizeofthelake.

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• Togetawayfromhomogeneity,onewouldhavetocreateopenings,andfigureouthowtowritethisintomarkingguidelines,andidentifywheregapsmightoccur.

o ACTIONITEM:DoriantosharefishermarkingguidelinesincludingclumpidentificationfromtheDinkeyLandscapeRestorationProject.

o Iftheprimaryobjectiveiscommunityprotectionandfirereduction,thiskindofhomogeneityislikely.LTW,however,purposelyincludesnotonlythegeneralforest,butalsotheWUI.Wehaveanopportunitytodevelopmaintenancetreatmentsthatalsoadvanceforestheterogeneity.

• Onecouldcreatemoremicroclimaticdifferencesbycreatingamosaicofindividualtrees,clumpsoftrees,andgaps,liketheEcObjectpolygons,bymodifyingtreedensity,andbymodifyingfire.

o Alternately,theSouthForkoftheAmericanRiver(SOFAR)projectrecognizestherearecertainsocialvaluesoccurthroughoutthelandscape,butsortingthemintozoneswheretherearegreaterorfewerconstraints.Thendifferenttreatmentscreatemorediversityacrossthelandscape.

§ SuchanapproachmaybeusefulfortheLTWLandscapeRestorationStrategy(Phase2).

o StateParkshasstandsthathavenothadtreatmentforalongtime,andarenowself-thinning,withsurfacefuelsdecreasingtoo.Weneedtoidentifytheareasthatarealreadymovingindesirabledirectionsontheirown,andletthemcreatemicroclimaticdiversity.

• Microclimaticvariabilityandforestheterogeneityareapositivefeedbackloop:onewouldexpectthatincreasingthediversityoffireeffectswouldincreaseforestheterogeneityaswellasmicroclimates.

o Thechallengeistogetoverthehurdleordeficitofcurrentconditions,sothatecologicalfirecandothisworkwithoutsuchathreattopublichealth&safety.Weneedtocommunicatethisanticipatedtrajectoryoftreatments,frommoreintensiveearlyontocreateasubsequentpositivefeedbackloop.

o It’salsoimportanttorecognizethatifanareahashighfuelloadingandwe’reusingfirethatkillstrees,thiswillinturnbecomethefutureopeningwe’relookingfor.Diseasesandbeetlesalsocreategaps,sothesetypesofdisturbancesalsohavepositiveaspects.

• Amajorconstraintonprescribedfireisthelackofdedicatedcrewandstablefunding.It’sdoubtfulwewilleverbeabletoburnasmuchaslikelyburnedherehistorically.Thisappliestobothstateandfederalagencies.

o Mr.Fougères:Anotheraspectofthe“promiseoflandscape”istheabilitytoplanseveralyearsoftreatmentsoveralarge-scale,whichallowsformorecertainworkloadplanningandfunding.ThisiswrittenintheMulti-JurisdictionalFuelsStrategyamendmentfromApril2017.

o Mr.Fougères:TherearealsoexampleswheresomeNationalForestsaretryingtotraintheirstaffwhoserveasfiresuppressioncrewsduringfireseasontothenworkasprescribedfirecrewsduringtheoff-season.Theaimistobetterensuretheyhavethestaffon-handtoburnopportunisticallyandtakeadvantageofsmallwindows.

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o Ifstaffcoulddevelopaproposalforaninteragencyprescribedfireteam,andmapandplanout10yearsoftreatment,agencyexecutivescouldworktosecurereliablefundingforthisperiod.

o Alongtheselines,regardingtheForestService,onJune1U.S.SecretaryofAgricultureSonnyPerduesaid,

§ “First,itmustreorientitsculturetoembraceagenerationalapproachtoresponsibleforestmanagement.Treestakedecadestogrowtomaturity.Wemustthinkabouthowtheforestswillprovidecleanerwaterandair,morebiofuelsandmoreusefulproductsforconsumers.Ifwedonottakethelongview,wewillneverbeabletopreservedelicateecosystemsorprosperfromthethousandsofjobsthatourforestscouldprovide.Wemusttreatourforestssothatwearenotspendingmoreonfightingfiresthanweareonmakingsurethatourforestsarehealthy.”http://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/readers-opinion/article153760404.html

Mr.PatrickWright,ExecutiveDirectorfortheCaliforniaTahoeConservancy,askedstafftonotcensorthemselveswhentheythinkaboutopportunitiesbutthenthinkaboutalltheconstraintsorbarriers.Heencouragedstafftonotassumethatwecannotdosomething,andnoteditwouldbemuchbettertoidentifybarriersandstartworkingonthemnow.HeremindedthemthattheExecutiveTeamwantstopushtheenvelope,andcantakeupandtrytomodifypolicyandregulatoryconstraintsifneeded.

• AnothermembernotedthatintheSagehenCreekFieldStationcollaborativerestorationwork,theystartedwithamapandthelocationofPACs.Inhindsight,hewouldhavepreferredtostartwithnoconstraints.Healsonotedtheyhadmany“falseno’s”–thingsthatpeoplesaidwerenotpossible,butafterhardworkwereindeedpossible.

• Mr.Fougèresnotedthat,similartotheearlierdiscussionofzones,indevelopingtheLandscapeRestorationStrategytheIADTandstakeholderscouldalsoconsiderwhethertobuildaseriesoflayerswithprogressiveconstraints.

4. MeeksBay

Mr.VollmerandMr.Garrettorientedthegrouptothelocation,includingadescriptionoffieldconditionsabriefreviewofhistoricalvegetationandprescribedfiretreatments.

• Theareaisamixofprivateproperty,CaliforniaTahoeConservancy,andForestServiceland.TheWasiutimbersalereducedmeadowencroachmentthroughskylineyardingfromacentralstationinthemeadow.TheQualsfuelsreductionprojectalsoincludedthinning.Thiswasinthemidandearly1990s.Hand-thinningbytheConservancyfollowed.However,therehasbeenlittlefollow-upandconifershaveencroachedagain,raisingquestionsaboutthelongevityoftreatments,theneedforrepeatfireentriestomaintaintreatments,andthelong-termresilienceofthemeadow–whetheritisfutiletotrytostopencroachmentinlightofexpecteddroughts.

• Theareahasstreamchannelconcerns,culturalresources,andalargemeadowwithheavylodgepolepineinvasionassociatedwithdrought.

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• Apileburnburnedunexpectedlyhotandspreadintothebrush.Thiscreatedsomelocalpoliticalcontroversyandconcernaboutpublicsafety.Onecanseethehousesrightacrossthemeadow.

o Thedensityoftheforestsmeansthateventhoughthereisasubdivisiononbothsidesofthemeadow,youcanonlyseeveryfewhouses,mostarehiddeninthevegetation.

• MeeksMeadowisaprettyuniquefeature–alargemarshatthesouthendofthelakethatissubjecttoregularflooding–andanimportantcomponentofthewestshorelandscape.Ithasanincrediblyrichconcentrationofbirdsandwildlife.

Discussionfollowed.

• TheLTBMUhasaprojectwiththeWashoeTribeofNevadaandCaliforniatoremoveconiferandrestorethemeadow,includingfollow-upwithprescribedfire.Ithasbeenahighlyvaluedculturalsitethatinvolvedregularburningforthepromotionoftheplantsusedforbasket-weaving.

o Wearenotcertainhowregularlyburningtookplacewhenthemeadowwastraditionallymanagedbythetribe.Studyingcharcoallayerscouldhelpidentifythis.

o Therearesomelargetreestumpsinthemeadowwhichsuggestthatencroachmenthasbeenaregularphenomenon.

• RegardingtheMeeksMarina,thecurrentplanistoremovethemarinaandrestorethemarsh.TheWashoeTribehastheconcessionforthemarina,andplanstoextenditsculturalprogramsinland.

• Inthepast,themeadowwouldgetextremelydryattimes.• Achallengehasbeenthatonceyouremovetheconifertheyre-occupythemeadow,so

weneedmorefire,andalsoconditionsthataredryenoughtoburn.Theburnwindowsarelimited,andremovingbiomassishardbecausethegroundtendstobesowet.

o Giventhecurrentfuelloads,theriskofafiregettingaway–giventheproximitytohomesandlocationintheWUI–alsoincreasesthereluctancetoburn.Thisisanothersituationwheremechanicaltreatmentwillbeneededeithernow,beforethefirstentry,orafterprescribedfire.

o Firecouldalsokilltheyounglodgepole.o Onewouldalsostillhaveaseedsource.

• Coniferremovalwouldincreasethewatertable,andtherestorationofthemarinawouldalsoaffectthewatertableoverthelongterm.Weneedtolookatthemeadow-marinacomplex,includingtheroadinbetween.

o Withclimate,oncecouldexpectbiggerstormsandhencemoremeadowflooding.

o TheroadwouldpullCaltransintoourwork.o Cedarsalsoencroachthemeadow,theoneswecanseeappearresilientand

havesignificantfirescarswithgreencrowns.• Itseemslikepartofourworkistoclearlyacknowledgetheelementofuncertainty

inherentintreatments,aswrittenintheEssentialManagementQuestions.Inthisway,

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perhapswecanmanageourownandpublicexpectations,andbemoreopportunistic

withregardtouncontrolledoutcomes.• Whileit’sdifficulttosayanythingclimatologicalwithcertainty,onethingthatiscertain

isthatmarkedswingsbetweendryandwetyearswillbecomethenorm.o Forexample,the2015winter’s5%snowpackisexpectedtobecomesignificantly

morefrequentbytheendofthecentury.o Furthermore,twotypesof“snowdrought”willbecomemorefrequent–snow

droughtscausedsimplybydryyears,andsnowdroughtscausedbywarmingtemperaturesthatmeanprecipitationfallsasrainratherthansnow.

o Asnotedearlier,LTWmaywanttofocusmoreonresiliencetotheextremeepisodesassociatedwithecosystemtippingpoints.

o LeeTarnay,USFSRemoteSensingLab,isworkingonnewmodelingof“snow-off”–thetimeatwhichdifferentpartsofthelandscapelosetheirsnowcover–andhowthisischangingwithclimate.

o AlexHall,UCLA,hasalsorecentlypublishedonthealbedoeffectofsnowmelt.Hisworkusedaregionalclimatemodel;itwouldbedifficulttoreplicatethisatasmallerscale,becauseofthetypesofdatarequired.

o ThisvariabilityisinherentinCalifornia’sclimate.Thereisnomeaningful“averageyear.”

• Giventheextremesofsnowpackandhydrologyanticipated,isitrealistictoassumethatthemeadowwouldremainhereintheabsenceofintervention?Thelogisticsoftreeremovalareverydifficult,andyieldssmall,low-valuematerial.

o Historicalgrazinglikelyalsohelpedlimitconiferencroachment.o Mr.Fougères:Onealternateapproachtothinkingaboutvalueisthroughthe

ecosystemservicesprovidedbyameadow.Ms.KimRollins,UniversityofNevadaatReno,willbeworkingwiththeLTWScienceTeamonaneconomicsanalysisforPhase2.

• Theareathatissouth-facingfacessunallday,andlooksrestored–ithasevidenceoffreshburningandalsobrushregeneration.

• Increasedfirefrequencycanalsoincreasethepotentialforterrestrialinvasivespecies.o Arecentstudyofcheatgrasssurvivabilityraisesthequestionofwhetheritwill

cometothewestshorewithincreasingtemperaturesandadifferentfireregime.• Itsoundslikeweareallinagreementinoursupportforvegetativeheterogeneityat

differentscales,fortheuseoffireinareaswithheavierfuelsandhigherseverityburnsandthecreationofclumpsandgaps.

o Mr.Fougères:AsuggestionfromcolleagueslastweekwastodevelopsomegeneralgoalslikethistofurthercommunicatetheintentofLTW,beyondincreasingforestandwatershedresilience.PertheCalendarofActivities,basedontheLandscapeResilienceAssessmentwewouldthenrefineandmakethesemorepreciseatthestartofPhase2,thedevelopmentofourLandscapeRestorationStrategy.

o ACTIONITEM:Doriantodrafthigh-level,generalgoalsforSSCreview,andsubsequentrefinementduringPhase2.

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• Togetthosehighseverityfireeffects,onewillhavetoacceptkillingtrees,whichishardtoselltothepublic.

5. ClosingRemarks

Ms.TeresaMcClung,ActingForestSupervisor,LTBMU,thankedparticipantsfortheirtimeandpreparation,andnotedtheimportanceandexcitementofbeingabletothinkaboutthelandscapewithoutalltheconstraints.Mr.Wrightaskedstafftothinkaboutmultiple-yearprojectsthataresoontobeginonthewestshore,likeStateParksworkinSugarPinePointStateParkandForestServiceWestShoreWUIwork,andseeifthoseprojectscouldpilottreatmentsthatcantheninformLTWprojectplanning.Thereisanopportunitytostartpushingonbarriersnow.

• Mr.GarrettnotedthatwhileWestShoreWUIfocusesonfuels,inthenextyearwemightseeopportunitiestoaddsomeadditionalworkbasedontheLandscapeResilienceAssessment.ThismightevenincludeworkintheWUIdefense,whichwealsoseektomovetoamoreresilientcondition.

6. Attendance

OrganizingandParticipatingAgenciesCTC–CaliforniaTahoeConservancyNFF–NationalForestFoundationRWQCBLahontan-LahontanRegionalWaterQualityControlBoardStateParks–CaliforniaStateParksTFFT–TahoeFireandFuelsTeamTRPA–TahoeRegionalPlanningAgencyUSFS–U.S.ForestServiceStakeholderScienceCommitteeMembers

1. JeffBrown2. MollieHurt3. PatriciaMaloney4. MaureenMcCarthy5. RolandShawStakeholderCommunityCommittee

Members

6. DougBarr7. AmyBerry8. ZackBradford9. BethKenna10. JackLandy

Agencies

11. RichAdams,StateParks12. MasonBindl,TRPA13. KimCaringer,TRPA14. BeckyEstes,USFS15. DorianFougères,NFF16. BrianGarrett,USFS17. RossGerrard,USFS18. AmyJirka,TFFT/CALFIRE19. BrianJudge,RWQCBLahontan20. PatriciaManley,USFS21. TeresaMcClung,USFS22. TamaraSasaki,StateParks23. DanShaw,StateParks

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24. RandyStriplin,USFS25. NadiaTase,TFFT/CALFIRE26. MikeVollmer,TRPA27. PatrickWright,CTC28. LesleyYen,USFSInterestedPartiesfromthePublic29. MikeDettinger,USGeologicalSurvey30. GeoffThornton,AECOM31. JessicaMitchell,AscentEnvironmental