SOTM09 talk - Community Smoothness

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This was 15 min talk I gave at the "State Of The Map" OpenStreetMap conference on Sat 11th July 2009 Audio available. See my blog post. http://www.harrywood.co.uk/blog/2009/10/04/community-smoothness/

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2. Tags Open tagging system >50,000 tags in the database What tags should I use??? 3. Map Features Agreed set of tags Wiki Easy editing Open & inclusive Discussion Mediation 4. Tagging debates Different ways of thinking about mapping the world Different understandings of wordshorse=yes? 5. Smoothness How smooth a road or footpath is Suitability for transport types smoothness=excellent smoothness=good smoothness=intermediate smoothness=bad smoothness=very_bad smoothness=horrible smoothness=very_horrible smoothness=impassable 6. Poor use of English languageUnprofessionalImprecisevery_horrible? Subjectivea subjective judgementpoor verifiability 7. Discussion Debate Edit War Discussion and refining Voted through Edit War! Calls to ban him - Support Long-winded debate Chriscf's disruptive behaviour Smoothness tag in particular Tag approval processes in general 8. Process problems Constant stream of proposals, discussions & votes Respected long-standing people not participating Gang of "wikifiddlers" don't understand realmapping Too bureaucratic. Don't like voting Ideas to improve? 9. Tagging committee Less open and inclusive Who would get to do it? Elections? Nominations? Who would want to do it? Not a fun job - Deal with proposals swiss-image.ch/Photo by Andy Mettler 10. Lock map features "Protected page" Wiki sysops are effectively the tagging committee 11. Split the page up Because it's too big and to relieve the tension BUT "what tags should I use???" 12. Tag cheat-sheet http://bit.ly/1vW7Qu Condensed list Open & inclusive? Who maintains? 13. presetsCondensed list Open & inclusive? Who Maintains? 14. "Map Features" application List tags Handle translations nicely Machine-readability Group discussion and decision: Linked to forum for discussion. Using a polling app for votes. but... reach agreement on documentation of hotly debated tags? More difficult. Wiki "Featurama" is vapourware 15. Tagwatch 16. osmdoc.com 17. Usage stats Blunt instrumentMore intelligentmetrics 18. Floaty-Cloud-Tagwatch-on-Steroids "Tags I use" page Tag page has descriptions from various users 19. Tagstat 20. Social Solutions Wiki based solutions Shift in attitude 21. Tagging Principles Instil our core principles Write out tagging policies e.g. "Verifiability" Link to these in all discussions 22. Be Critical Over-enthusiastic about proposals Motivation to be more critical Process for removing previously "accepted" tags. One in one out? change in process 23. Who to respect? Expansion. Large number of newbies. Waffling on mailing list/wiki editing energy Don't know who to listen to Experienced long-standing OSMers Respect 24. Grumpy old fart us and them attitude holding back enthusiasmWork on your reputation Participation! User page. Document achievements Too modest? Give awards. Write testimonialsPhoto CCBYSA jonnykeelty http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonnykeelty/462802956/ 25. Tag documentation Raise the standard Currently poor in places alcohol/beverages shop, pharmacy, art gallery, leisure=parkGood tag documentation reduces international misunderstandings helps match search keywords raises the bar for new proposals 26. Message to the wiki enthusiasts Don't make proposals. Do mapping! Message to long-standing community members: "wikifiddlers" are OSM enthusiasts too! Set out principles. Raise doc standards Message to everyone: Debates are inevitable, and healthy Seek positive outcomes. Take action. 27. [email protected] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Harry_WoodThank youFeel free to re-use slides under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/