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SocialInvestorWorkingGroupMeetingSPTFAnnualMeetinginMexico
June62017Summaryofdiscussions
1. WelcomeandUpdates
Groupco-chairsChristopheBochatay(TripleJump),JurgenHammer(GrameenCreditAgricoleFoundation),andLeticiaEmme(SPTF-coordinatorofSIWG)welcomedparticipantsandprovidedupdatesontheSocialInvestorWorkingGroup.Christopheprovidedanupdateonthecurrentprioritiesofthegroup.
• Harmonizinginvestorduediligenceandmonitoringonsocialperformance-uptakeofSPI4ALINUS
• Measuringandreportingonsocialoutcomes–guidelinesdevelopedandharmonizedindicatorsbeingpilottestedinLatinAmericaandIndia
• Aligningeffortswithotherinitiativesinresponsiblefinanceandtheimpactinvestingsector(includingUNRPI,GIIN,WEF,IMP,etc)
• NEW-Increasingalignmentwithassetowners• NEW-AssessingS&EperformanceofSMEfinance• Pricingtransparency–definingamodeltocontinuetohavetransparentpricing
dataina“postMFT”era• Harmonizingloanagreementscovenantsinsupportofresponsiblemicrofinance• Equity&responsibleexits
LeticianotedtheupcomingchangeingroupgovernancelaterthisyearwhenJurgenstepsoffhisroleasco-chairofthegroupgiventhatafteryearsofstrongleadershiphistermiscomingtoanend.SPTFwillbeholdingelectionsthisfallforinvestorstoselectthenextinvestorco-chairandrepresentative.
2. UpdatesonnewworkstreamsidentifiedatthelastinvestormeetinginZurich(March2017)
ThelastmeetingoftheSocialInvestorWorkingGrouptookplaceinZurichinMarch2017.71investorsparticipated.Atthemeeting,thegroupidentified2newareasofworkforthegroup:1)increasingalignmentwithassetowners,2)assessingthesocial&environmentalperformance(S&E)ofSMEfinance.LeticiaprovidedanoverviewoftheworktheSPTFandtheSIWGisdoingtoengagewithassetowners.TherewasaquestionaboutwhetherthenewframeworksbeingdevelopedtoaccelerateimpactmeasurementandmanagementtakeintoaccounttheSDGs.Leticianotedthatyes,theyarebeingpartoftheconversationandinitiativesarelookingathowtoincorporatethem.CecilenotedthattheSGDshavebeenmappedtothelastversionoftheSPI4.
LuciaprovidedanoverviewoftheworkthattheSPTFandeMFPareplanningtodointermsofassessingS&EofSMEs.TheobjectiveoftheworkistoconsolidatetheinformationavailableonhowtoevaluateSPMforFSPsfinancingSMEs.MaptherelevanceandapplicabilityforSMEfinanceoftheUniversalStandards,MIVduediligencetoolsandotherframeworks.Identifypossiblegapsandprovideindicationsonhowtofillthegaps.Thesourcesfortheworkwillinclude~200surveysconductedbyMicrofinanzaRating,duediligencetoolsofMIVsalreadyworkingwithSMEsandexistingliterature.SPTFwillalsobemappingsomeofthetoolsbeingusedbyDFIstoassessS&EofSMEs.Luciathenopenedtofeedbackfromparticipants.Discussion-Whatarethepriority/mostmaterialareasthatMIVslookatwhenlookingatSMEsbanks?
• MicrofinanceandSMEbankshavedifferentmindsets.Thereisamissingmiddlethatnobodyisfiling.CommercialbanksarenotlookingatSMElendingasasectorforprofitorrevenue.Lucianotedthansegmentationwouldbeneeded.
• SMEanalysiswouldbeveryinteresting.InCambodiamanyinstitutionsaremovingtoSMEs.Doesn’ttheSPI4alreadyassessSMEorganizations?Isthisnotsufficient?Itwouldbenicetojustuseonetool.LucianotedthattheworkwilllookintowhetherSPI4needstobeadaptedforSMEs,butrecognizingthatthereisvalueonkeepingthesuggestedtools/frameworkssimple.
• OneofthedifferencesbetweenfinancialinclusionandSMEistheintrinsicvalueofwhoyouarefinancing.
• ItwouldbereallyusefultoseethesocialimpactofSMEsandtheimpactofjobscreated.SymbioticssentteamtothefieldtoassesstheimpactofSMEstheyworkwith.Theywillbeabletosharelearningsinawhile.
• TripleJumpsharedGenesisEmpresarialistrackingSMEs.GenesisisoneofthemostdevelopedFSPsinthismarket.Genesismentionedthatforthemthekeyforanystrategyissegmentation–understandingcustomerneedsandwantsarekeytoproductdevelopment.Basedoncomprehensivequestionnaires,Genesisisabletounderstand“thedevelopmentroute”oftheircustomersandofferproducts/servicesbasedonwheretheyareandalsobeabletomeasuretheimpactoftheirloans--howmanycustomersareimproving?Howmanycustomersarestagnantinthejourney?
• MaterialtopicscomefromthesectorwheretheSMEis.Inmicrofinanceyoudon’tneedtoasksomanyquestionsaboutthesector.ButforanSMElender,itisexpectedthatthelenderhasdefinedforeachsectorwhataretheneedsofthecustomers.ItwouldbeinterestingtolookattheprocessesthanSMEshaveintermsofidentifyingthematerialareas/topicsforeachsector.
• Workshouldstartfromwhatalreadyexistsandisbeingused(e.g.SPI4,UniversalStandards)andseewhatisalreadyapplicableandthendevelopwhatismissing.
• Wouldbeusefultohaveagoodwaytodefinethedifferentsectors–anSMEinserviceswillhavedifferentrequirementsthanamanufacturingSMEforexample.Therewillbeaneedforsegmentationandsectoralization.Boliviaisagoodexampleofsegmentationandhowsectorsarebeingdefined(asitismandatoryhere).
• BasedonSPI4andUniversalStandardspointofviewisalreadypossibletoseesomeareaswhereSMEbanksarestrongerthanothers.
• ChallengeisthatsometimesonpaperSMEsmightnotlooksocial,butwhenyoulookattreatmentofemployees,customers,communitiestheyarestrongerthanMFIs.
• Compliancewithtaxeswouldbeanareainterestingtolookat.• StruggleonhowtodefineanSME.Thereareseveraldifferentdefinitions.It
wouldbeveryimportanttogettoashareddefinitionofwhatisanSME(e.g.,intermsofnumberofemployees,numberofend-clientsreached,etc).IFCforexamplelooksatsizeofloantodefineSMEs.AgoodstartingpointwouldbeashareddefinitionofSMEs.
• Itisalsoimportanttosplitoutthedestinationofloans.SMEsarenotdoingthatyet,butitsverydifferenttoseea30kloanthatgoestohousingvs.abusiness.
• GenesisdefinesSMEsbasedonasetofvariables,whichvarybytheeconomicconditionsofeachcountry.Theirformulalooksat6economicvariables(allweighted)todefineSMEs.
• Country-basedstandardsforhowtodefineSMEsmightbeagoodidea.Youcan’tstandardizeacrosscountries.
Discussion-Intermsofmateriality,is“doingnoharm”or“doinggood”moreimportant?
• BothareimportantforSymbioticsandGlobalPartnerships.Doingno-harmscreeningisadealbreakerbutinvestmentwouldn’tmoveforwardwithoutpositiveimpact.
• Alignmentonassetownersonnegativescreeningisstillastruggle.DFIshavetheirownscreenings,sohavingalignmentwithassetownersonhowtodonegativescreeningwouldbeuseful.
Discussion-WhofromthoseintheroomisinvestinginSMEs?
• TripleJump,Incofin,Symbiotics,COFIDE,SB,Oikcoredit,Nextsteps:
• WebinarinlateJunetogatherfeedbackofotherSPTFmembers• SMEliteraturereview(includingsocialratingsonSMEbanksalreadyavailable)• ReviewofDFItools• One-on-onecallswithselectinvestorsalreadyinvestinginSMEs• Interimmeetingtoshareinitialfindings(Addis,eMFPinLuxemburg)• Pilottestingbyinvestorsofdrafttools• Refineandfinalize(ideallypresentinMarch2018atnextSocialInvestor
Meeting).
3. OpportunitiestoimproveSPMinMexico
ChristopheBochatayintroducedthestudyonmicrocreditinterestratesinMexicosponsoredbyTripleJump,IFC,FOMIN,PRONAFIMandconductedbyFAS.ResultsfromthestudyindicatethattheAPRofMexicoismuchhigherthanothercountriesintheregion(Peru,Colombia,Boliviaarealllowerthan30%).TherangeinMexicogoesfrom75%to120%dependingontheinstitution.ReasonsforhighratesinMexicoinclude:
• Smallaverageloansizes(average$650)whichturnsintohighoperatingexpenses
• Highpersonnelexpenses(representing70%ofOPEX–vs.lessthan10%inothercountriesintheregion).
o Veryhighstaffturnovero Highexecutivelevelsalariesandboardexpenses(particularlyinsmaller
MFIswithweakgovernanceandtransparency)o LowloanofficerproductivityinMexico
SomebodymentionedthatinPakistantheywereabletocutdownOPEXbyreducingunderwritingprocess.TheMexicanmarketisconcentratedinspecificclientsegments.Highconcentrationonwomen,trade,andinafewstates(wheremostpoorpeoplelive).Conclusions
• Grouploanmethodologyhasallowedtoreachthepoorestsegments• Despitehighgrowths,interestratestoborrowsremainhigh• HighOPEXkeepinterestrateshigh• Highstaffturnoverandlevelofexecutivesalariesandboardexpensesarea
concernRecommendations
• Supportdevelopmentofindividuallendingmethodologywouldhelpsatisfyneedsofanimportantsegmentofclients,increasetheaverageloansize,andloweroperatingcosts
• PromotecompetitionSomeindividualMFIsinMexicoaredevelopingindividualloans,butfacingseveralchallenges.Discussion--HowdoinvestorsreacttothehighinterestratesinMexico?Isitanissuethatislookedatbyinvestmentcommittees?Howisitaddressed?
• TripleJumphas2MFIinvesteesinMexicoand1educationalorganization.Theportfoliohasdecreasedsignificantlyinthelastfewyearssincemost
organizationsdonotpasstheirscreening–e.g.,over100%APR,transparentgovernance,productandgeographicanalysis.
• OikocreditfindsitchallengingtoexplaintotheirinvestorsthattheymightinvestinMFIswiththreedigitAPRs.ThereforegoingbeyondtheAPRandprovidingacomprehensiveanalysisontheSPMoftheorganizationisveryimportant.Still,insomecasesorganizationsdonotpassscreeningbecauseofAPRs.It’sacase-by-casethroughanalysistoapproveinvestees.
• DeutscheBankalsohasasmallportfolioinMexico(intermsofnumberofpartners–workingwitheducationallender,publictransport,1lenderdoinggrouplending)andtheyfocusonorganizationswithastrongsocialmission.TheytakeaverycloselookatAPRs.
• GrassrootshasanequityfundinLatinAmerica.Sincetheyareequityinvestorshighinterestrateswerenotseenassuchabigproblemasalong-termequitypositioncanhelpdecreaseratesovertime.However,whattheyfoundtobeadealbreakerwastheweakgovernanceandlackofaccountabilityofthegovernanceofmanyorganizations.
• GlobalPartnershipsalsohasaverycarefulapproach.Theynowhave4investeesinMexicoandtheytoofocusstronglyontheSPMoftheorganization,theproductsbeingserved,towhom,andwhetherpricingis“appropriate”forthemarket.
4. SPI4andALINUS
JurgenHammerandCecileLapenupresentedanupdateontheexperiencesofinvestorsandFSPswiththeimplementationoftheSPI4andALINUS.
• TheSPI4isthesocialstatementoftheFSPsanditallowsinvestorstogathertheinformationtheyneedfromthereinsteadofaskingtheFPSforadditionalreporting.
• ALINUSnowhas68indicatorsbasedoncommonselectionofinvestors.• Thetoolwillbefrozenatleastuntil2020.• CERISEisworkingondevelopingguidanceforauditors.• CERISEgathersresultsofSPI4fromFSPsonaconfidentialbasisandthen
developsandsharesbenchmarkssothatinvestorsandFSPscancompareperformanceofFSPstotheirpeers–alsousefultoidentifyneedsforTA
Currentlevelofuptake:
• 1OMIVs/DFIsusingALINUS(ADA/LMDF,AFD/Proparco,Alterfin,BlueOrchard,BNPParibas,Cordaid,GAWA,GCAMF,Incofin,Pamigafinance)
• 6MIVs/DFIsintesting/tsrtageicplanning(DeutscheBank,EuropeanInvestmentBank,GrassRoot,Oikocredit,Symbiotics,TripleJump)
• About15MIV/DFIsincontactwithCERISE/SPTFforawarenessraisingandstrategicdiscussions
• 13networksusingtheSPI4(7International:ACEP,Advans,OpportunityIntern’l,Oxus,Pamiga,VisionFund,CIFWestAfrica,6National:AmcredBrazil,CopemePeru,FinruralBolivia,RFD)
• 13networksintrainingorusingreducednetworkoption(3International:AgaKhan,GrameenFoundation,Microcred,etc,10National:AMAAlbania,AMFAAzerbaijan,AMFIKyrgistan,AMFOTTajikistan,ASOMIFNicaragua,CMFNepal,LMWGLaos,RadimArgentina,RedFascoGuatemala,UCORAArmenia,etc.)
• 341FSPshavecompletedSPI4auditsfrom88countriesJurgensharedtheexperienceofGrameenCreditAgricoleFoundationinusingtheSPI4toassesstheirentireMIVportfolio.They’vebeenusingtheSPI4induediligencesince2015.ThankstobenchmarksofCERISEtheywereabletocomparehowtheirportfoliocomparestotheglobalbenchmark.Discussion–WhatisyourexperienceinusingALINUS/SPI4?
• DeutscheBanksharestheSPI4totheirinvestees.Alsonotedthatthereisaneedfortrainingofpartners.
• IncofinshiftedfromitsproprietarytooltoadoptingALINUS.TheSouthEastAsiaofficesalreadyusesALINUSfortheirduediligence.Thetoolwillbecompletelyrolledoutinallofficesbytheendoftheyear.UnlikeDBtheydonotsendtheSPI4inadvance,butsuchisnotachallengesincemostofthequestionsintheSPI4werealreadyinECHOS(proprietarytools).
• Oikocredit,whilenotusingtheformalversionoftheSPI4yetisworkingonaligning(challengeisthattheyhave70officesaroundtheworldbuthavealreadyalignedandlinkedtouniversalstandardsandSPI4language).
• Locfundusesitsownscorecard,whichhastobeusedforthelifeofthefundaccordingtotheLPagreement.However,whentheydevelopedtheirinternaltooltheyusedtheSPI4asinput.13outoftheir41investeesareusingSPI4.Forthosewhoare,Locfundcanhelpfundtraining.
• GlobalPartnershipshasaproprietarytoolthatlooksatseveralsectors(beyondfinancialinclusion).Theyhaveincorporatedseveralpractices/questionsfromtheSPI4particularlyregardingclientprotectionforfinancialinclusion.TheyhavealsoseenuptakeintheirportfolioofuseofSPI4bypartners.Overtimetheyexpecttohavemoredimensionsofthestandardsincorporatedintotheirtool,particularlyasmorepartnersadopttheSPI4.
• BancoPymeEcofuturo(FSPperspective).ThebenefittheyseeinhavingimplementedSPI4istoreportonwhattheyareanddo.OfthesixdimensionsoftheSPI4,only2arenotat100%alignmentwiththestandards.ItisimportanttonotethatBoliviahasastrongregulatoryframeworkforreportingandtheSPI4helpswithreporting.However,theycan’tyetprovideanSPI4reporttoregulators,theyhavetosubmitasocialrating.TheSPI4hasbeenveryhelpfulintermsofdoingbetterinsocialratings.Bolivianregulationhelpsmakesocialmissionmorevisible.Forthefirsttime,thesocialdimensionisincludedintheirstrategicplan.
• Opportunityinternational(internationalnetworkperspective).WhenSPI4cameouttheydidamappingbetweentheirowntoolandtheSPI4anddecidedtodrop
theirowntoolandadopttheSPI4.Theystronglypromotedatameasurementandmanagementbytheirpartners.Sincetheyareanetwork,theydon’tuseSPI4forduediligencebuttomonitorthesocialperformanceoftheirpartners.Strongadvanceinlast18month–90%ofportfolionowusesSPI4.OIrequestsanannualreportwithquarterlyupdatesonkeyindicators.TheyhaveseenhighsupportfrompartnersinuseofSPI4,astheyseethevalueitprovidestothem.Intermsofchallengesthey’veseenthatself-assessmentsarenotasaccurateasexternalassessments.Nonetheless,itstillhasbeenaveryusefultooltoidentifygapsandhelpimproveinareasofneed.GoingforwardOIwouldliketosettargetsforcompliancebydimension,basedonbenchmarks.
• Symbioticsstillusesitsowntool,however,thedimensionsarequitealignedwiththeSPI4.Theyrealizethattheyneedtoupdatetheirtool(developedin2009).Whiletheyarenotreadyforafullswitch,theyfirmlybelieveinbenefitofsharingindicators.
• GlobalPartnershipsseesthatSPI4isusefulforothersectorsbeyondfinancialinclusionparticularlyintermsofclientprotection.Also,gender-lesscutsthroughalldimensionsandwouldbeveryinterestingtoseeuseoftoolinthataspect.
5. DataPlatformSimulationLuciaprovidedanupdateonthedataplatformconceptbeingdevelopedbyMicrofinanzaRatinggiventhatMFTransparencyhasnotbeeninoperationsforawhile.Theideaofthecommondataplatformistoaone-stop-shopfortransparentdatafromFSPsintermsofAPR,outcomes,greenindex,clientprotection,SPI4ALINUS,IRIS,ESGindicators.Theplatformwillhavemultipleprovidersofdata(raters,investors,networks,individualFSPs).Usersmightbeinvestors,networks,standard-settingbodies,academics,regulators–datawouldbeusefulforbenchmarkingofFSPsforduediligenceandmonitoring.TheplatformwouldprovideincentivesforFSPstoprovideinformation(includingawards,benchmarkreports).Luciathenprovidedasimulationofwhatthedataplatformwouldlooklikeandhowitwouldoperate.TheexampleshownillustratedthecaseofaspecificFSPversusthebenchmarksofFSPsinthecountry.Discussionwithparticipants
• WhatisincludedinAPR?Nominalinterestrate,calculationmethod,ongoingfees,upfrontfees,taxes,insurance,andmandatorydeposits.
• IsTieraselectioncriteriaforcomparingresultsinthedatabase?Whileincludedinthedatabase,Tierisnownotoneoftheselectioncriteria(scaleis)butcanbeincluded.
• Canselectionofcriteriaforcomparison/benchmarkbemultiple?(e.g.,morethanjustaregion)?Yes,itwillbepossible.
• Whatisthecolor-coding?It’sthesameastheSPI4(colorsvarybydimension,standards,essentialpractices,andindicators).
• Modulesavailabletocomparedatawillincludesocialperformance,green,gender,etc.
• Mostorganizationsintheroommightagreethatthereisvalueinhavingthedataplatform,butmightnotbeabletofullysupportthebudgetoftheplatform.Willsomepartofthecostbecoveredfromtop-down/subsidizedbydonors?WhilesomefundingcouldbeprovidedbyDFIs,Microfinanzawantstoensurethattheplatformissustainedovertime.Also,themoresubscribersthatjoin,thelowertheshared-cost.
• Haveyouconsideredopen-sourcedplatformswhereraterscanallenterdataandbringcostdown?Technologyisnotwhatiscostly,whatiscostlyismakingsuredataisofhighquality,comparable,havingeducationavailableforusers.
• Whatwouldsubscriptioncostbe?Rangefrom$2-20kdependingoncoverage(country,region)andtypeofdata.
• Mostallinvestorsintheroomshowedhighinterestincontinuingtheconversation.
Nextsteps:• Feedbackfrominvestorsintermsoftheusabilityofplatformandwillingness
oforganizationstobecomesubscribers.Ifviable,platformwillmovefrompilottoexecution.
• Luciaaskedforfeedbacktobeprovidedwithinthenextthreemonths.6. Discussiononcapturingthevoiceofthestakeholdersthroughoutthe
investmentprocessLeticiaEmme(SPTF)providedanoverviewoftheworkSPTFisengagedinwiththeWorldEconomicFoum(WEF).In2017theWEFlaunchedanactionagendatohelpaccelerateimpactmeasurementandmanagement.Forthis,sevenactiongroupswereidentified.Giventheexperienceofthefinancialinclusionsector,SPTF,isleadingtheworkofoneoftheseactiongroupswhichisActionGroup3andwhichfocusesoncapturingthevoiceofstakeholdersaspartoftheimpactinvestment/intervention.Theworkbeingdonebyallthesegroupsisbeingcoordinatedandwillbecomplementary.TheworkofotherinitiativessuchastheImpactManagementProject(facilitatedbyBridgesImpact+),NavigatingImpact(GIIN),OECD,andUNPRIisalsocoordinatedwiththiswork.GiventheexperienceofSPTFanditsmembersinfinancialinclusion,oneofthebiggestsectorsof“impactinvesting”,wehavebeentappedtobeinvolvedinthiswork.Ourobjectiveistobringtheexperienceoffinancialinclusion,andthecollaborationthathasbeenachievedwhereweestablishedandimplementedstandards,commonassessment
tools,andoutcomesmanagementguidelinesandindicators,tothebroaderimpactinvestingsector.
• Astheimpactinvestingsectorcontinuestogrow,withnewinvestorsandfundsflowingin,thereisasignificantneedtoprovideclarityandguidancefornewinvestors.Thisiskeytoavoid“impact-washing”.
• Gatheringthevoiceofthestakeholderaspartoftheimpactinvestmenthelpsensurethattheinvestment/interventioncreatesvaluefortheaffectedstakeholdersandalsohelpsunderstandanyun-intendedeffectsoftheinvestment.
• Manyinvestorsacknowledgethattheydon’tknowhowtoorwhattorequirefromtheirinvestmentmanagersintermsofgatheringthevoiceofstakeholders.Hence,thereisaneedtoprovideguidanceforeachinvestortothentakealong,acknowledgingthateachwillbeindifferentpartsoftheimpactinvestmentjourney.
• SPTFcanbringtheexperienceoffinancialinclusiontohelpinvestorsunderstandthekeyaspectsofthesector(whicharedifferenttootherimpactinvestingsectors)andhelpbuildprocessesthatcapturethevoiceofthestakeholder(aswedidwiththestandardsandoutcomeswork).Wealsowanttohighlightthepracticesandexperienceofourinvestormemberswhohavesignificantexperiencetosharewithotherinvestors/sectors.Theexampleoffinancialinclusioncannotonlyhelpattractmoreresponsibleinvestmenttothesector,butalsohelppavethewaytothedevelopmentofotherless-maturesectorsofimpactinvesting.
Theobjectiveofgroupistoprovideguidanceonbestwaystogetstakeholderinputinordertopromoteresourceallocationdecisionsthatwouldbeendorsedbyallthosewhomaybeaffectedbyimpactinvestment/intervention.Thegroupisplanningtwodeliverablesbytheendof2017(topilottestin2018)andothertwodeliverablesfor2018(fundingpermitting).Coredeliverables(readybyendof2017tobepilottested)
1. Outlineoftheidealprocesstoengagestakeholders--withtheobjectivetohelpmoveinvestorsclosertotheideal
2. Developaself-assessmentchecklistorrubricforinvestorstoassesstheextenttowhichtheyachievetheideal.
Additionalrecommendeddeliverables(iffundingallows,developmentin2018)
3. Developadocumentthatprovidesguidanceforimprovement4. Definethebusinesscasefortheimpactinvestor–explainwhyengagingand
understandingallstakeholdersinthedesignandthroughoutaninterventioniskeytodeliveringimpact.
Discussionwithparticipants
Whatareyoucurrentlydoingintermsofgatheringstakeholderinput?Inwhatstagesofyourinvestmentdoyouconsiderit?
• Thereseemedtobeagreementthatinvestorsengagedwithafewend-clientsattheduediligencestageoftheinvestment(e.g.,conductinginterviewsto3clientstounderstandlevelofsatisfactionwithproducts/servicesprovidedbytheFPS).
• Achallengeinvestorsfindintermsofgatheringstakeholderinputishavingarepresentativesampleaswellascostandresources/timesrequired.
• ManyinvestorsrelyontheFSP(andontheirimplementationofthestandards)toensurethatpracticesareclient-centered,andjustasktheFPSifwhattypeoffeedbackloopstheyhavewithend-clientstoensuresatisfaction/usage(e.g.,“doyouhaveafeedbacklookwithclients?”,“whatdoesitlooklike”?)
• Someinvestorswhogatheroutcomedata,measuretheeffectinthelivesofthestakeholdersthatway(butnotnecessarilydefinetheoutcomeswiththestakeholderdirectly,justwiththeFSP).
• Therewasagreementbyseveralinvestorsthathavingan“idealprocess”andchecklistwouldbeveryhelpful,eveniftheydonotnecessarilycanyetaligntoallthestepsoftheidealprocess.
• Theneedforabusinesscase–toconvinceinvestorsontheneedforengagingstakeholders-wasnotedbyafewinvestors.
• GlobalPartnershipsnotedtheimportanceofhavingtherightmethodforengagingstakeholders(e.g.,havinglocalwomenfromacommunityaskquestionstoothercommunitymembershasbeenmoreeffectivethanusinganoutsider)
Nextsteps:AnyinvestormemberinterestedintakingpartoftheActionGrouptoletLeticiaEmmeknow.
7. Thefutureofmicrofinance–theroleofinvestorsgiventheemergenceandgrowthofdigitalfinancialservices.
Grassrootsprovidedtheirperspectiveasinvestor.Theydefineinvestmentsindigitalfinancialservices(DFS)asMFIsprovidingdigitalservices,sometimesinconjunctionwithfintechproviders(MNOs).IntermsofDFSadoption,theyseelessadoptionintheirLatinAmericaportfoliothanintheirportfolioinIndia.GrassrootsbelievesthatMFIsarethebestpositionedtoprovidedigitalservices(vs.fintechproviders)givenstrongergovernanceandwhathasbeenlearnedovertheyearsinfinancialinclusion.TheyseeDFSasscomplementnotareplacementofMFIbusinessmodels,withkeepingcustomersatthecenterasakeytoprovidevalueforclients.Intermsoftheroleoftheinvestors,thefollowingpracticesweresuggested:providingguidanceandlong-termviewintermsofcapitalforinvestmentsinnewtechnologies,productsandservices,askingtherightquestionsattheboardlevel(forexample,whatdoestheorganizationplantodowiththetime/resourcessavedfromDFS?),monitoringfintechrisksandprotectingclients.
FundacionGenesisEmpresarialsharedtheirexperienceasproviderabouttolaunchaDFSpilot.ForGenesis,itallstartswithsegmentation,understandingtheevolutionofcustomersandproducts.Theystartwithasegmentationmatrix,followedbyasocialevaluationofcustomers(lookingathousing,education,familysize,etc).Whenthesetwomodelsarecrossed,theyidentifycustomersbysegments.Thissegmentationhelpsthemunderstandareaswheretheyarelackingproduct,aswellasareaswherecustomersareusingproductsthatarenotbest-servedforthem.Genesislooksathelpingcustomersevolveintheirjourney,notjustprovidingloans.Segmentationhasalsobeenkeyindevelopingdigitalfinancialservices.Theyhavea“creditfactory”thatevaluatescreditscores,psychometricscores,andsegmentation(toensurepreventionofover-indebtedness).Basedonthat,theydesigntheappropriateproductsandchannelsandclientscanchosewhichproductstheywant(basedonwhatisavailableforthem).Thecreditfactorythenevaluatescreditpolicesandverifiesrequirements,andthenthecreditisfinallydeliveredtotheclient.ThepilotforDFSwillbelaunchedwithinthissummer,withanonlineplatformforcustomerstofillapplicationsforonlinecreditupto$50.CGAPsharedtheirpointofview.ThewayCGAPseesDFSasanenhancementandevolutiontohelpincreasescaleinamoreefficientway.Technologyisbeingusedatdifferentpointsofthebusinessmodel.CGAPhasateamworkingon“digitalfinancefrontiers”.Theyarelookingat6digitalattributes:1)digitaldatatrails,2)leveragingsocialnetworkstoincreaseaccesstoDFS,3)smartphonesandrichuserinterfaces,4)real-timecustomerinteraction,5)Identification,6)Tailoringfinancialservices.Alloftheseattributeshaveaclient-centricangle,whichisveryimportanttoCGAP.They’velearnedthatforproduct-designtobesuccessfulacomprehensiveapproachwasneededthatlookedatwhatend-customersneedbutalsothatisbackedbystaffandmanagement.TheSmartCampaignsharedanupdateonwhatthey’vebeendoinginDFSandfintech.WhenlookingatresponsibleDFS,SmartisnotjustlookingatMFIsbutalsoatotheractorssuchasMNOs.TherehasbeenalotofhypeintermsofDFS,butthereisalsogrowingrecognitionthatDFSpresentshighrisksforclientsandcountries.TheSmartCampaignwantstoworktowardsmoreconsensusinguidanceandpractice.Theyareworkingondigitalcreditandresponsibleagentmanagement.TheyhavefoundthatwhiletherearemanyongoingeffortsonresearchandexamplesofDFS,thereisnotalotofeffortyetonbuildingacommunitytosetthebarforgoodpractices,testdraftstandards,androlloutinassessmentandcertificationprograms.Theyaredevelopingbriefsonresponsiblemobilecredittoarticulaterisksandprovokeconversation,developcasestudiesongoodpractice,anddevelopacommunityofpracticewithfintechproviders.Finally,theynotedthatstandardsforthisareawillnotberushed,firstthereisaneedtoidentifyrisks,guidance,andacommunityofpractice.HowareinvestorsadaptingtoDFS?
• SofarintheLatinAmericaregion,DFSisinearlystages.Ithasnotreacheddigitalmassasforsomeinvestorstochangeduediligenceorunderwritingprocedures.
• Investorsareappraisingchannelsingeneral,notDFSinparticular.• TherewaswideacknowledgmentthatengagementwithDFSislowinLatin
Americabutthatitwillgrowfastinthemediumterm.• Clientprotectionisveryimportant,butsoisinvestorrisk.DFScande-
personalizethecredit,whichcanincreaselackofpay-backmorality.• OpportunityInternationalhaspartneredwithafintechprovided(notan
investment,apartnership).Theydiddoaduediligencebeforeengagingonthepartnership.Itsnotjustinvestorswhohaveademandforbestpractices.Thisisneededfornetworksaswell.
AreinvestorsintheroomlookingatinvestmentsinMNOs?
• EngagingwithMNOsdidnotseemtobearealityyetforinvestorsintheroom.Atthispointtheyareatastageofbetterunderstandingthedynamicsandrisks.
• SomeMNOsinAfricashowsignificantlackoftransparency,whichisasignificantrisk.
WhatroleshouldSPTFplayinthedevelopmentofguidelinesandstandardsforFinTech?Isthereneedtodevelopguidancebeyondclientprotection?
• Fintechistoobroad—tolookatapplicabilityofstandardsSPTFshouldnarrowthescope,e.g.,lookatMNOs.
• LookingatSmartCampaigntohelpidentifytherisks.• UniversalStandardsareenoughintermsofDFS.• Itwouldbegoodtohaveacommunityofpractice/discussion.Itistooearly
forstandards,butsharingexperiencesandlearningfromeachotherindifferenttopicswouldbevaluable.
8. DiscussiononSPTFmembershipmodelJurgenintroducedthediscussiononSPTFintroducingamembership/feemodelwherefundingcomesbothfromfunders/donorsbutalsofrommembershipfees.
• PakistanMicrofinanceNetworkwentthroughasimilarexercisetoassesslong-termsustainability.Theyrecommendationsincluded:
o Firstunderstandbudgetandbudgetgapo Ifworkdoneovertheyearsisconsideredvaluable,peopleshouldbe
willingtopay–thisshouldbeaveryconvincingargumentforanybodytopay.
o Diversifymembershiptoincludethosewhoarenotcurrentlymembersbutneedtheinformationandwouldbewillingtopay.
• Thevaluethatisprovidedtoinvestorsisalsorelatedtotheinvestororganization.Forexample,MIVswhoarenotverysocially-mindedwillbelesslikelytocontribute.
• ThereisatrendofMIVsbecomingmoresociallyconscious.• OikocreditwilllikelybesupportiveoftheSPTFasawhole.Needtogetmore
detailsofthefees,structure,valueproposition.• MFIswouldbewillingtopayamembershipfeetobepartofanetworkthat
helpslearn,share,andexchange.SPTFhoweverisnotknownoutsideofthemicrofinanceworld.CouldSPTFprovideconsultingservices?
• SPTFshouldthinkofbroadeningmembershipbase–forexample,includeregulators.(JurgennotedthatthishascomeupinthepastandthereasonwhySPTFhasnotengagedregulatorsisgivenbudgetandthelargeeffortthatengagingregulatorswouldentail.InsteadSPTFhasengagedwithregulatorsonaone-to-onebasiswhenspecificallyapproachedbythem,e.g.,inNicaragua).
• DeutscheBanksharedOikocredit’sperspective.TheworkdonewithSPI,outcomes,hasbeenveryvaluabletoDB.Theywouldbewillingtosupportthewholeorganization.
• Desjardinsalsosharedtheviewofsupportingthewholeorganization.Tostayrelevant,weneedthecross-stakeholdervoice.Theysuggestedamixed-feestructure,dependingonthetypeofmember(capacitytopay).
• Grassrootsechoedothersintermsofthevaluetothewholeorganization.Suggestedabundledapproach(e.g.,includedataplatform).
Nextstep:InvestorstoprovidefeedbackonthevaluepropositionthatSPTFwouldsendtotheirorganizations
Listofparticipants Organization FullName(Last,FirstMiddle)1 CERISE Lapenu,Cecile2 CGAP Seltzer,Yanina
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CompañíaEspañoladeFinanciacióndelDesarrollo,COFIDES,S.A.S.M.E. Rabadán,Julia
4DéveloppementInternationalDesjardins Quirion,Marisol
5 DeutscheAssetManagement Howe,Sarah6 EAConsultants Magnoni,Barbara7 FundacionGenesisEmpresarial Perez,Edgardo8 GlobalPartnerships Murphy,Tara
9GrammenCreditAgricoleFoundation Hammer,Jurgen
10GrassrootsCapitalManagementPBC Hamilton,AnnaKanze
11 Incofin Liv,DannetLinarin12 LOCFUND/BIM Céspedes,VerónicaSusana13 MicroFinanzaRating Spaggiari,Lucia14 MicrofinanzaRatingsrl Moauro,Aldo15 Oikocredit Dominguez,AndreaInés16 OpportunityInternational Scott,Calum
17SmartCampaign@CenterforFinancialInclusion Samuels,Sarah
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SolidaritéInternationalepourleDéveloppementetl'Investissement Orliange,Gabrielle
19 Symbiotics Rosales,Anne20 TripleJump Bochatay,Christophe21 TripleJump China,Cristopher22 TripleJump Pérez,Gabriela23 TripleJump Rojas,Claudia24 TripleJump DeVlaam,Dirk25 WorldBank Arbab,AmjadAli