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PRESS CONFERENCE

SEN.WR HUBERT HUMPHREY Little Rock , .rkansas

TV Stations Kf.RK a.nd K/.TV Septenber 1 , 1964

"MEET THE STi'.TE PRESS II

~OUNCER: It is indeed Channel ll's privilege to bring before the state tonight Senator Hubert Humphrey, candid~te for the vice-presidency of the United States.

Ques tioning Senator Huwphrey will be Ll~d Hobeck, UP! ; Bob Starr, :.ssociated Press; Pat Owens of the /.rkansa.s Gazette; t:md Babby Foster . Your

moderator is Bob Hicks .

MR . HICKS : Senator Humphrey, L1ay we, too, welcorae you to l'.rlmnsas and thank you for appearing on Face the State Press . vJe have four of ,:rlmnsas I top reporters here who are anxiously waiting to question you, so with your permission, will Miss Foster of the /.rkansa.s Gazette ask the first questions ?

MISS FOSTER: Senator, I wonder what your rene tions '"ere to the s to. te­ment that vias li'Jade recently in :.rkansas, and this \IO..S the statement that any laying down to be done in the streets to block off traffic of legi tiu1ate business should be run over ''

SENi'.TOR HUMPHREY: Well, I ,.,ould hope that no one would wo.nt to run over anybody . There is a necessity, however, of r.nintaining the public order and in I,Jaintaining public pence. It would be the responsibility of local officials to see to it that traffic was not interferred vii th .

/~t the sane tiue, people should abide by the law but violence does not get lm•, o.nd.. law and order i s the only way I know of to prevent violence .

QUESTION: Senator, on the subject of these riots, such us disturbcnces in our northern cities this sunmer, how should they be handled or is there a prevention f or theu?

SEN1":.TOR HUMPHREY: Well, first of all, we r.rust all recognize that civil disobedience and civil lawlessness does not does not mean civil liberty or civil rights .

I think we should also recogni ze that it is the priiaary G.uty of govern­ment to Lai nt ain the pence nne ~nintnin l aw and order and therefore, measures must be taken to prevent looting , t o prevent arrests, vi"jlence, and people who engage in violence and disorder o.nd promote general corillnunity chaos .

Stern lc.'" enforcenent, fair law enforcement is the first requirement of n local or state official . I don't believe that VIe ought to ho.ve Federal, should I say, Feder al police . I do feel, hov1ever, that the investigating ser­vices, such as the FBI, can be of hel p to see whether or not there is a pattern in these nets of violence and disorder o..nd if there is, such a pattern then, of course, there is a possibility of Federal action .

Now, having said all of this, asking f or proupt, efficient l aw enforce­ment and l aw observance , I think we also have to recognize that in some instances , there are ·nany social injustices which pror. ote these i!JCttters , taking the instance of Harlem, if you will perni t oe the ti <.~e .

There are 50 thousand people living in an area. of three end one half square niles . I f that sru e density of population <er e

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a~plie~ t 0 t he r est of New Yor k City, t he entire p0pulation 0f the •Jni t ed. St p+e s -o0ul ri be put in three b 0r 0u?;hs three b or ou6hs in

wha t we · call Metr0pJlitan New Yor k .

When y0u h?.ve suc h ~ensi t y •; f p0 . ulati0n , school 'i ro - outs, when you hav e 1 r .,e unempl 0J'1Jent nm n ...., the y,outh , when you have illiter a c y and t enements, cr0wrie~ housin0 c 0nditi0n s , inade qua t e par king s pac e -- a ll 0f that, I t hink, t ends t 0 l end itself t 0war d vi r:> l ence .

rhis ioes n0t mean y0u c .·mrtone t he vi r:> l enc e . It me ns t a ke l aw enf 0rc ement snd s eek t o enf orc e a be tter s oci ety, t o 3e t r:> n with the j 0b r:>f cleanin~ up ce ss por:>ls of inf ection9tha t is wha t they a r e .

QUEST ION: J. gain ; n civ il r-i ~~hts, in the s outhern sta t es, childr en .,o t 0 schools nea r the ir- home s . I n New York City, I am sure you a r e s:l.Wnr e , childr en a r e be inp; f r:> rce:i t 0 30 further away fr om the ir homes . ~hi s s eems t be inconsistent. Wr:>nder wha t you think?

SENJ.o.TOrt HUM.-H EY : I hav e expr ess ed myself earli er, and I am not f or thi s l 0ng r ange bussinp;, usin~ childr en , in other words, t o accom~lish a socia l 0bj ective an bussing t he s e childr en from one end of t he ci t y t o anot her. wha t we n eed t n do i n J.lmerica is t 0 build better ne i ghborhor:>ris and. it is still true , a t l east it is in my c onvicti on, tha t ne i ~hborhoori schools a r e bette r schools beca us e you ha ve clos e r par ent a l-student-teacher r e l a tionship, s o we , as we put i n the Civil i ghts ~ ct of 1964 , we sai d tha t tha t .14Ct shall not pe r mit, insof ar a s any enf orcement pr ocedures under tha t ~~ct l s c 0nc er ne1 , s chool buss in~ of childr en l on0 - i istances.

QU~s·r iON: l•;;:;"' in , :-m ci"lil ri?hts, 1o yr:> u think, Sena t or, ~ulbright 0 s v r:> t e agains t the Civil di ghts Bill will pr event his be ln~ a~~o inte~ tn t he Cobinc t?

SE11i1-rO.;:i !IUM .~. ·H_i]:!,Y: I N0ul ci h0;;->c not. I c 0n s i rte r Sen o.t 0r Fulbri ght t 0 be 0n e 0f t he ~0s t enli~htene1, r:>ne 0f the most able Sennt 0r s i n the hist 0r y of our c0un~ry . L.n:t his knowl edge 0f f0re i 6n r e l a tion s , h i s kn0wl cdge ,,f 0ur ec 0n 0my, his basic s ens e of f ir nl a y and s ocia l enl i ht enment, qualifi es him f 0r any r:> ffice fr 'Jm the .c·r cs i cten t 0n 1.0..-...<n.

QUESTION: We hA.ve quite a f ew rumors tha t he t:rl.ght ·he appointed Secretary of Sto.te . Have you hear d ooy?

SEN..: ·r o ·) HUM H_i.t!:Y : I hn.vc ~car'i t hat m ny times nnd I don 9 t have anythin~ ~ore t s ny then I h~ve s o i ri . I can s~y tha t he is the ~rcat Sena t 0r fr om ~.rkans as . n:t i s t he Chnir::w.n of the Cr:>m­mi tt ee on Por e i gn .i.el a tions. He is 0ne of the mo st i mportant E!ni :_) :~wcrful men i n t he ,'2;0Ver nment of t he United St a t e s.

Mrl . HICKS : Mr. Owens •

• OWENS: Scm-.t 0r , the qu0t n.t i 0n nbou~ runnin(.; r:>ve r per:>~l e tha t Mr s . F'0ster r cc.1 j"'JU • c.s r:w:ic ::: J~ G0vc r n0r r<-. 8-ubus 1'>'h0, I b eli eve , has s a i d that n0bo'iy else w0ul'i r un n l yi n7 je~0nstrati0n; he would ge t behind the whee l and d0 it hi ms elf. N0w , y0u a r e · s a.yin6 tha t you '"'nd tho G'1vc r n0:::- hnve h"'i ;'1st diff er enc es.

Dr:> you have ~iff erenc e s n ow with Mr. Paubus an~ a r e you, in f act, end0rs in~ his can rti 1ac y f 0r Govern,Jr of .crkansa s?

SEN~>-r O ~i HUM -~.;H .. a;y: ~·Je ll , I 1i "! n ° t C0"T18 d.0wn he r e t o get int0 a squo.bble o.bout t~ho.t Gnvern0r f'nubus mc..y 0r may n r:: t have s a i 'i . I hear d s r:>mewher e a l 0np; the day -- and a very busy day I ha1 -- tha t he maie s r:>~e c orrecti0n 0f tha t nllege i sta tement.

But be tha t a s it may , my purpos e in c o~in~ her e is t o

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c am~ai r_;n f --:>r a De~ocro tic ticlce t, Lynri 0n B. J;hns ; n and Hube rt Hu hre y, !lS c a n d i :iat e s f 0r ... Te sirtent a n d. vice .l..resi 'ient , res~ectively. I think G0ve rn0r l a ubus ha s i0n e s0~e very go01 thing s in y0ur sta t e in terms of industri a l de vel0pment, in t erms of a~ricultural pr0~rcss.

I s poke earlier t o~ay t o the dural ~l e ctrificati on Cooper a tive and i t had o.ruong t hem, particularly from the State of /.rlmnso.s, enthusiastic support for your Governor on the issue of rural el ectrification.

The Govenor has not asked me to endorse him. I am afraid if I did, it might not help him , so I think about the best thing to do is just ri de along.

QUESTION: You expect t o see the Governor i·lhile you are here ?

SENl'..TOR HUMPHREY: I would hope to . I don' t lmow just who. t the pl ans are . It is possibl e that they can be define d .

QUESTION: Senator, you so.id i f you did endorse the Governor, you are afraid it might not hel p him . 1-lould you clarify that , sir'?

SEN.l\TOR HUMPHREY: I think that in certain instances being left alone is sometimes a help.

QUESTION: That might because of the civil rights fame. You spent the last two days in state s that theoreticallJ,! are a gainst your position~ yet you s eem to have gained a new respe ct in the matter. I wonder if you feel the rights issue will be against you--

SEN.l\TOR HUMPHREY : I find that mos t .:unericans are not of a. one- track mind, and the civil rights issue is an important issue but it is not the only untte~ we are concerned about . vJha.t i s more , it is no"' the l mr of the land and who ­ever i s President of the United States vTill ha. ve to enforce that lavr. I would prefer to encourage people to observe it, to make the necessary comr:mnity adjustments that will help bring respect for the law and I think this is being done. Quite frankly, I am deeply i mpressed by the progress that has been made in the South.

Sometimes vre of the North f ail to see what is being done someplace else . We have our own problems in our ovm ar eas . Now, the enthusiastic reception that I have had - - and it's been just ~hat -- I think is due to the fact that people are concerned about raany t hings .

We have been in Texas . They are concerned about agriculture. They are concerned about jobs . They are concerned about the atti tude and c· d Senator Goldwater on the matters of nuclear policy and foreign policy. Besides that, I l ike people and I'd like to think that peopl e like me, and I think that the South has a great future.

In fact, I thi nk that it is devel oping faster than any other part of Aoericn. I am here to encourage that development and I thillic it is developing

educationally, socially, economically, and politically, And anythi ng I can do to help that along, I 1mnt to do .

QUESTION: Senator, .r understand you yourself have somethi ng of a southern background and spent some tj.me, I believe, at Lous iana. Stat e University .

SENATOR HUMPHREY : Yes, sir.

QUESTION: Do you think that your youthful experience gave you some under­standing of the South ?

SEN.l\TOR HUMPHREY : I haven ' t heart much about this --

QUESTION: What do you rerrember?

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SENATOR HUMPHREY : I know it 1ms a very useful experience . Louisiana State University, at the time I attended there, had a very find School of Government . Mrs . Humphrey and I lived there f or a year . Our little daughter, who today is married and has two daughters of her own, was a little baby there at that time.

I met mnny people I saw on the political campaign . I traveled around the state, but I would like to believe that as an American citizen and as a Senator that has studied his country, traveled widely in our country, that I do have some understanding of the econoDic and social and political problems, not only of my own state but of other states .

'~at we really need to do here is try to promote a kind of change of i deas and also a respect for the manner in which we deal with our respective problems . h bit of tolerance and a good bit of understanding, I think, is bringing us a long way .

This is a much better country than it used to be and it is going to get better as we go along .

QUESTION: Senator, when Governor Faubus announced that he would sup­port the national party, vms this a surprise to you and President Johnson ? Do you feel that >Tould in any way alienate the northern Democrats ?

SENflTOR HUMPHREY: I don 't think it will alienate any of the northern Democrats . ~kansas and Louisiana, as I remember, are the two states t hat have never voted Republican .

Now, from oy point of view, of course, that shows a kind of indigenous political wisdom to commend themselves to the attention of the whole nation . We are very pleased to have a unified support in ~kansas, and I think this will help a great deal in the rest of the South.

Let's just say this . The Democratic party and the Democratic Admini ­stration, since the time of Franluin Delano Roosevelt have gone very good for the South and the South has been very good to the Democratic party. We also depend on the South.

Hhen I look at what has happened in Arkansas, I see a partnership here between the Federal government and the state government and private industry and the rural economy that has literally lifted this state to new l evels of econowic grmvth ana prcgress •.

The Republicc..."l party never tri e i. t":l he l p this l_)['.rt of ~ .. me rle " . It is much m0r e ":lf ~ r estrictive , ~·ith1r~w~l type 0f ~avernmental ;hil'JS":>~hy. It d0cs ~0t sens e tha t the ~overnment c a n b e a part­ncr , c g,n be St ~re'J.t hel _ in r ele['.sing the C!lpaci ties af a country or a sta te ')r of a n iniivi ~ual.

Mn . HICKS : Miss ?'Jster .

MI S tosr~-~ : ~ucs ~i 'J~: I n'Jticei i~ your Hot Springs' speech you kept referrin~ to Galiwateris~ . 0ha t is the ~istincti on you draw between G')liwa terism ~n1 conservotis~?

St£N..: ro d HUlVl .... H·.fJ:Y: I C')nsider C')nser •cJ. tiSr.l t":l b e t ·1 be a r e s ?onsible politica l philosophy thc t hns r espect f or tra iition , tha t a ls":> h 2s n re c o~niti 0n 0f current ~r":>blems.

I C')nsi ier G0li~"'1teris '"' t 'J hc.7e c. 1.~in"~ 'Jf ficti 0:nol '..ln1er­st ~ niin~ of our hcrit[~o, with":>ut ~ ny re~ari to the f ncts ":lf history, nn1 li t er -':llly n0 f oresi.;ht ani a he avy iose of irresp0n­sibility in 1e alin~ with contempor a ry ma tters 7 and little or no visi":ln s b)ut the future.

ro put it si l"Jpl:_,· -- G0l~·mter1 sr:1 is just nat rc['~li ty. It's ~ kin1 ":lf ~0litically never- never l nnd . I think the Sa turia y Evenin~ . ost s ~11 of the Sen~t or th~t he w~s sort af c. nstr~yn.

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By that, he is not in the main stream of the republican party and he surely isn 9 t in the stream of the main or the tributaries of th-3 lJemocratic party .

rhere are thousands of .r epublicans in ,. ny. part of the countr y and I am sure this is true all 0ver everywhere , that they are ~oin~ to J ohnson, not because they a r e e nthusiastic about the Democratic party but bec a use they just worry about their country •

. L'hey .jnst feP.l they c~=~.nnnt trust the jud,r,ment of Sen~=~.tor Gold~ ter and they feel th~=~.t they can trust the jud~ment and the ex?erience nd the knowledge of the gove rnment of ~resident Johnson. rr.t-;y r-l.re puttirl~ c-:,~~.-~tr ~l b~f0:r~ p-"~t;{.

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ite public::l.n party , an"i. that is why I think Senator Goldwater must be :iefeate1.

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QiJESriON : Y0 1l S? .. J7 iY'..~ t~e De"'!c~r~ts o .. re ;.;oin~ to t .~l.{e i~ D2 cember or January if he wants to come?

'EN.1.rOd. HUM.~. H:1EY : I wonl"i. seriously rloubt th~t. I hope th~t I will h~ve ~ ~osition in the Sen~te ~s the presi"i.in~ offi ­c e r an'i therefore will not be privile~en to participA.te in the senitori~l c~ucus but since Stro~ rhurmonrl h~s mane his choice, I think he ·s entitle i to move real est~te , his esk, over to the de publican side. There is a lot of room over there. I feel there will be more l nter.

QUESriON: Do you think it is possible there ~re other Demo­cr~ts in the en~;.t; c~ ;_,, : i. u t, :. r.; ·-'tot~ se who t~ke rou~hly the s:=tme views as ~en~tor rhurmoni noes? Do you think it is possible that the Democrntic party \~ill eve·r: mo ve -- sort of shove those people'?

SEN ~ro .-,: HOlVi .~.-H rtEY : No, I h~ve not end0rsed the concept 0f sort of try.ing to m~ke our p~rty ~ monolithic thin~, structuring the Democra tic party as a nation~l pa rty and we have to f A.ce up to this f a ct , that there a re ifferent stages of iifferent types of development, economic a nd social, throu~hout this great country of ours . I "d like to think I am somewha t a student of f~ overnment . I have hea rd many people s ay , "Well, we ought to have it like they ha ve it in Brita in , a Conservative party and Labor . In ~orway, you have Labor, a Co~~ c r7~ti7e ;~~ty c~~ ~~~ i~l~~~. t! co~~sc, it i:;- t+- ~\.-.- ... ;o::_ ....... r ,_c· "'h ; - . ....... ·: ~ - :~ 4:\,-.':) ~f""~!":~:r-0. -,;4r: .c';v~ ~':::' :.:~+:~:';~ J -t:~e ~t !; .'='.~re ~~~~. -~~~ ~~-~ 4 " ~ . Put wh~t w~ s~ek ta 1a h~re is ta brin~., within v .. :1 ~

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.:::lli:t~.,. ro, ti LM~ H: .lti:i : i,ve ll, .~ene r..,_ll y, if ·~ne is i n s0rnewha t ill he ql t~! he r eqlly 0 u~ht ~ 0 i0 n l i t tJ.e s elf - exam tnnti 0n becqus e his h nbtts may n0t be too ~o 0 '1 ; ht s at t itu~e rnny n0 t be t00 ~00~ ; he may well be , i n a s ense, 0h, ~e tt in~ ~ut 0f line a little t 00 0ften f 0 r hi s p0l iti cal ~ni e c 0n0mic heR l t h.

I thtnk t'hnt t he "A'9nhl tcnn pArty hAs fn.ile4. to wi n electi0ns , pri~nril y be cnuse it ha s faile~ t0 Rense t he r0le f ~0vernment tn 11o 'le r YJ :::-~ .~- i- 7 ~- , +: '-.-.1... ~ .... ~---:-: f ~, :.,_- ~ .... _ -: ,~·-. - -: -:.•,,..,_t t he Hmerican pe0ple l00k up0n the ir ~0ve rn~e nt a s 0ne 0f t he f 0rc ~ s in the life of the na ti on. t hnt ~ives t he rn a c hanc e , a oe ~ter cha nc e . I t 0pens up the pa thw ys 0f 0p p0rtunity .

I hnve b een try in~ t 0 a nnlyze wha t it i s what we in p0lit ics ha ve trie 4. t0 i0 f 0r pe0pl e . ~0r e xam ple, I 4. on~t beli e ve tha t I 0we y0u a livin~ . I mean, I '1. 0 n0 t be lieve tha t a ~0vernment of t his c0untry 0u_,1;ht t 0 mq'l{e sure that y0u a re well 0ff.

I '1.0 thin~, however! t hat I 0we i t t0 y0u, if I c nn p0ss ibly 1.0 a nythi n :<; a b0ut j _ t t0 s e e t 0 it t hat y0u ha ve an 0pp0rtuni ty f0r A j0b . I think I 0we i t t0 y0u t0 s e e tha t y0u have an 0pp0rtunity t 0 tr~in y0urs e lf f0r thnt j0b.

N0, I nRn°t tnst\11 with'.n y0u the incentive to ~e t up And ~0 , to want t0 make s0rne thin~ 0ut 0f yourself but I cnn, thr0u~h the use 0f the ~0vernment, rem0ve thes e b0ulders 0f inhibiti0n, 0f r es istance , s0 there i s a cl e8.r tra ck f ~r y ·~u to jri v e on or wFtlk on , if y0u hqve n. will t n:<;less ~ 0 '1.0 this .

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SENHrO .t H J. ·J.~ f- -lEY : Well , the Hurst newsp'1.pers, in e etrlier 'la ys , were .r e 'l:J c rus a rle rs f 0r '!luch 0f the s J l.- .i. Hll~::: :<, .i b l P. L l • J ·. l f0 r t v.:.d .. ~ .. :: ~ = ~ .: .. ~ ·:.: .:. J. ~ : ~ ........ : : ~~= .. ....; ~..... ~ ... :... -.~ ~ ~: i:tc.: c r 6 ! 1 ~t. ., .:.: ~ h 0~'Tn P.. ~rert t c Jnc ern 0ver f 0re i~ '1 i;. ) l ~ ·2· .Y · Jill ~~L.;.L3•o# , JJ.: . l 3 -v-;:;ry· 0 ' .Jll~Cl"' il·.?;i r~ ~-:' .. lt 0 UT f ":' re.~ .7 ::' ·:1_~ "'v .; ...... T --t-.; , ..... :. """'~ ~ ~~ ~

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Pr esident Johnson diq and surely n~ t eve rything that Hubert Humphry may stand for -- - ·- ·- -

bu.t y0u h:=tve t •') mP,ke c h0j e es. 't.fe rl0n ° t hAve the perf e c t ~~ f0r y0u. qnd f0 r I <=mrl f 0r me 5 l".n f0 r S0"!!8b·J:i.y else . \.Je h:wl=! ~ in a sense , two c a n· i d.ates, tw 0 f 1rces a t w0rk now in .r. merica n publ i c

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life ani 0n the ~ay 0f ~ovember 3r1, m0st pe0ple 0u~ht t0 g0 , and I think all pe0ple that are eli~ible to vote ought t0 go and c a st an intelli ~ent v~te 0n th0se choices .

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~'")"'; ~; '")~" ! +-v-..;_ ~,-:- +-r~+- H- --::~· ~~·T" balanced it off . I imagine thStt the Hffi rGt· ~ newsp'l.pers c0ul'i ~ive us 'l. whipl a shing 0n some 0f our views qni ~aybe we caul~ r espond in one case bu t you make the choice , and you have t o make be cho ice .

t\ T .? ~ T T r \ .. "i. c .. · ·' .!.V-. • Now, Senator --

.:3EL\J., ro .. HJ•iubEY : l1'i2.y I say we t~ark the Heorfi t newspaper for thnt eniarsement . We want ta thnnk 2ll

~0~3riON : D0 y0u think the full detnils af the Bobby Baker c~~ 0 Wi1J ~,~8 ~~t 1T ~~¥C t h2y C0~e 0Ut?

SC:1\J,d,O HullJ.H EY : I think that the l"!J.0St recent act i0n 0f the Senate will sure ly permit a full explanat ian 0f the last allegnti0ns t~at were mR c in a ll seri1usness t0 yau . rhe a0bby daker cQse is betn~ c 1eckei nn'l. rc - checkel by the InternA.l 11evenue Service~ 'uy "'.: ~ :-:: .J'.ls :ice Depnrt'Tient, by the r'edernl aureau 0f Investigati0fl~

and I thin I it is well l<n·1vm th8.t anytime that the FBI 1.evelaps sufficien~ inf0rmati0n far a ~rani j~ry, that apprapr i ate -- tha t it will ~0 bef0re thRt ~rRni 1ury an~ seek Bn iniictment.

Che ·. ,0nnni t.tees 0f the C0n;<;ress, the C0rnrni ttee. •1f the Crm~ress hA.n'l.lin~ t1iF h~s CA.rriei 0n A ~0a~ investi~~ti0n. I kn0w s0rne peaple w~uli like it t0 be 0utr t ~ht r~zzle - 'l.azzle but this is a p0liticRl yeA.r ~n~ he knws thqt the 0ther iay , s0~eone sai'l. that we were sweepin.r it unrier th e ru ,~ .

1~0w, if I were o. llepublic::m , I :i0n ° t think I w0ul 1 take a b0ut ru~s becA.use the lnst ru3 thRt qny one got hi feet on was 0ne in the 0ffice 0f the White H0US~wns R Mr. cinrns. ~n'l. it just secns to me tha t we ought t0 kind 0f keep these in reas0nable per s pe c t i ve .

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rhis is a ~llitical year. I h~ve been in politics A. l0ng If there is Any wronJ'1.0in~ , it should be e x p0se1 ani if

is any action , that has been a vi al~tion of the law, and it be prosecuteJ . It?s just that simple .

.u~sriON: 1:wul ·~1 y0u?

SELIJ;,ro 1 HUI"i ... HuEY : I surely w0uli. the Bi - partis !Cm C0rnrai ttee 0f ~qualness 0f

In fact, l v0tei f0r tepublic ns a nd De ·nocrnts

A.s n s0rt af ca '"nmi. tt.ee 0f snrve ill~nce , C01J1rn.t ttee 0f ethtcs, :=t c0m.111i. ttee 0f 4J.sci. oliDe 0ver the entire unt t c ~ 'tntes denn.te but I -1.0Yl 9 t he lieve j_t . ~f) . s very rr:mch ~';00'1. t0 o;0 qraun'l. shak i ng --in fear every Senat0r somehow or other is engage~ in nefnrious act ivities . Mcst ~f us ~ro t~~ S~cy .

~J~JrlON : ~en&tGr G0l~water in ~a~ph is chP r~e1 this week that there were vnri0us issues which h~ felt that the ~ennedy <1ministrnt i0n sh0ul~ answer . Ihe o0bby ~aker case wns 0ne 9 viet 1_\J, .'!! . f.:!e ~1 Q0 m.e~t. i0~ 0r'l.. • r esi.-'lel'lt. i !'ll p0lic-y ~~i. past.ll.res nb0ut Cub~ . Wh~t i0 y0~ think th~t this s0untry sh0uli i0 2baut Cuba , but to what e xtend that we shauli, as a ~0vernment , either 0ff icially or un0fficially , da t0 a i d Cuba in any avcr thr0w af

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of the Castro government if it appears the people may ••ant i t?

ISENATOR HUMPHREY: I believe what vTe are doing about Cubs is

t he pos ­silility that i t shoul d be continued . Mr . Goldwater has made fastastic charges about Cube. in his speech in Seattle , itlashington . ,\ short t ime ago, he charged t hat President John Kennedy used the Hhol e strife of the mi ssile cri ses of 1962 for political purposes . This is a shameful statemtnt .

He knm·TS it is false . It was outrageous, also to the Commi t tees of Congress that examined ell the evidence. /J.l the evidence ·Tas pursu· ed about what to do about Cuba. . \.Je pursued the Cuban case in the Organization of /~erican states . Every single Latin ,unerico.n country, save Mexico , has broken relations ,.,i th Cuba. .

We imposed o.n embarge on Cuba. . I think we ought to aid vTherever they take o.ny cl andestine operations , just really activities within Cuba . I thi nk He ought to prevent shipment of o.rms f rom Cuba to Latin /~eric o.n countries . I think I have said this on the Senate floor . I think \Ve ought t o agree that it is mor e than a. nuisance . I t coul d well be a subversive threat to the entire Latin /~erican hemispher e .

THE ,\NNOUNCER: We have run out of time . I.Je ,.,ant to thank you very much , Senator Humphrey, for Meet the State Press .

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