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    STATE OF NEW YORK

    PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION

    Proceeding on Motion of the Commission in ase 14-M-0101

    Regard to Reforming the Energy Vision

    Reply Comments of the Joint Utilities to Comments

    on Staff's August 22, 2014 Straw Proposal on Track One Issues

    WHITEMAN OSTERMAN HANNA LLP

    Paul L. Gioia, Esq.

    Attorney for Central Hudson G as and E lectric Corporation,

    Consolidated Edison Com pany of New York, Inc., New York

    State Electric Gas Corporation, Niagara Mohawk Power

    Corp orat ion d/b/aNat ional Grid, Orange and Rock land

    U tilities, Inc., and Rochester G as and Electric Corporation

    One Commerce Plaza

    Albany, New York 12260

    t) 1.518.487.7624

    e) [email protected]

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    TABLE OF CONTENTS

    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

    THE JOINT UTILITIES RESPONSE TO PARTIES INITIAL COMMENTS REGARDING

    THE STRAW PROPOSAL

    I.

    CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT

    II.

    DATA ACCESS, PRIVACY AND A DATA EXCHANGE:

    III.

    DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM PLANNING PROCESS

    IV.

    BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS

    V.

    MARKET POWER AND UTILITY ENGAGEMENT IN DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES

    VI.

    INTERCONNECTION PROCEDURES

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    VII.

    CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAMS

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    VIII.

    MPLEMENTATION OF REV

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    CONCLUSION

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    EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

    Central Hudson Gas and Electric Corporation, Consolidated Edison Company of New

    York, Inc., New York State Electric & Gas Corporation, Niagara Mohawk Power Corporation

    d/b/a National Grid, Orange and Rockland Utilities, Inc., and Rochester Gas and Electric

    Corporation (collectively the Joint Utilities ) appreciate the opportunity to provide these Reply

    Comments to clarify and respond to issues raised in the initial comments of parties to Developing

    the REV Market in New York: DPS Staff Straw Proposal on Track One Issues ( Straw Proposal )

    in the Proceeding on Motion of the Commission in Regard to Reforming the Energy Vision

    ( REV ) proceeding.

    The REV proceeding proposes a major shift in the current model for the planning and

    delivery of electricity services in New York State. The Joint Utilities see the implementation of REV

    as a multi-year, phased, and iterative process, which has already begun, and will continue to evolve as

    experience is gained through the use of timely and well-thought-out demonstration projects and

    related work focusing on new resources, technology integration/innovation, and customer

    preferences and demands. Even with well-designed and well-executed customer engagement efforts,

    it will take time for mass market customers to take advantage of innovative REV opportunities.

    Various parties echoed the Straw Proposal statement that REV will require years of iterative

    planning and increasingly granular design determinations. ' The Joint Utilities agree, and are

    prepared to make a long-term commitment to this process.

    While the Commission must consider the diverse interests and views of all parties in this

    proceeding, the utilities are the only parties subject to the obligation under the Public Service Law to

    provide safe and reliable service at a reasonable cost to all customers. The Joint Utilities agree with

    numerous comments relating to the potential net impact of REV implementation on customer bills.

    The implementation of REV must take into account this impact for all customers, including both

    REV participants and non-participants, with particular attention paid to low- and moderate-income

    See e.g. Comments of Consumer Power Advocates ( CPA Comments ), p. 2; Comments of NRG

    Energy, Inc. ( NRG C omm ents ), p. 21.

    2

    See e.g. Comments of AARP and Public Utility Law Project of New York, Inc. ( AARP & PULP

    Comments ), pp. 1, 15-16; Comments of National Fuel Gas Distribution Corporation ( NFGDC

    Comm ents ), p. 6; Comments of the City of New York ( City of NY Com ments ), p. 15; Comments of

    New York State Department of State Utility Intervention Unit ( UIU Comments ), pp. 14-16;

    Comm ents of Multiple Intervenors ( MI Com ments ), p. 6; and Comm ents of Nucor Steel Auburn, Inc.

    ( Nucor Steel Comments ), pp. 7-11.

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    customers. Given REV's long-term focus on reducing overall customer expenditures for electricity,

    the joint Utilities are concerned about the relation of the timing and level of REV benefits to

    potential customer rates and bill impacts. This concern exists because the Straw Proposal

    contemplates: (1) the monetization of externalities; (2) expenditures related to demonstration

    projects;

    (3) expenditures related to new foundational investments; (4) potential expansion of other

    utility or state programs (e.g., clean energy programs); and (5) expenditures associated with

    maintaining existing infrastructure. In addition, overall the customer bill impacts of New York State

    Energy Research and Development Authority's ( NYSERDA ) recent Clean Energy Fund ( CEF )

    Proposal must be taken into account and considered with appropriate strategies that allow REV to

    move forward as an element to achieve clean energy goals of the State, along with the re-envisioned

    NYSERDA CEF.4

    The Joint Utilities also agree with numerous parties urging that Track 1 and 2 efforts must

    be coordinated in order to define a comprehensive REV framework.

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    This will facilitate efforts to

    achieve the Commission's REV objectives over a reasonable transition period. This coordination is

    required to address customer bill impacts and various matters relating to utility cost recovery, rate

    setting, and revenue treatment including: (1) well defined rules for the recovery of REV related

    expenditures and investments, and the treatment of possible revenue gains or losses from REV

    related activities; (2) a Benefit Cost Analysis ( BCA ) methodology for the efficient valuation of

    externalities; (3) incentive mechanisms (metrics, targets, size, and degree of symmetry); (4) net

    metering; and (5) distributed energy resources ( DER ) pricing matters.

    3

    There is broad agreement supporting the value of demonstration projects.

    See e.g.

    Comments of

    Columbia U niversity's Sabin Center for Climate Change Law , Environmental A dvocates of New York,

    the Pace Energy and Climate Center, the Sierra Club, and the Vermont Energy Investment Corporation

    (collectively Clean Energy Advoc ates ) ( CE A Comments ), pp. 31-3 2; Comments of ChargeP oint, Inc.

    ( ChargePoint Comments ), pp. 4-5; CPA Comments, p. 8; Comments of Direct Energy Services, LLC

    and Direct Energy Business, LLC ( Direct Energy Comments ) , pp. 6, 23-24; Comm ents of Infinite

    Energy, Inc. ( Infinite Energy Comments ), p. 9; Comments of Simple Energy ( Simple Energy

    Comments ), p. 13; and Comments of Agreen Energy, LLC and Vanguard R enewables, LLC ( Agreen &

    Vanguard Comments ), p. 11.

    4

    It is our understanding that NYSE RD A is in the process of clarifying cost and revenue data in its Ca'

    Proposal.

    5

    See e.g.

    Comments of Citizens for Local Power ( CLP Comm ents ), p. 2; UIU Comm ents, pp. 2, 5; MI

    Comments, pp. 30-31; CEA Comments, p. 37; Comments of PSEG Long Island LLC ( PSEG LI

    Comments ), p. 22 ; and Comments of Environmental Defense Fund ( ED F Comments ), p. 3.

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    Finally, the Joint Utilities note that most parties support the utilities as the Distributed

    System Platform ( DSP ) provider, and many parties also support utilities as DER providers. These

    Reply Comments address the importance of the utilities as DER providers to the achievement of

    REV objectives.

    THE JOINT UTILITIES' RESPONSE TO PA RTIES' INITIAL

    COMM ENTS REGARDING THE STRAW PROPOSAL

    I.

    CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT

    The Joint Utilities agree with the joint comments of AARP and PULP stating that customer

    awareness and adoption are two very different things.

    In our initial comments the joint Utilities

    acknowledge that while opportunities to animate markets and engage customers exist, the challenges

    must not be underestimated. Achieving REV benefits depends critically on the willingness of

    customers to engage in new product and service markets, and to make behavioral and financial

    commitments when particular offerings meet their needs and are cost-effective.

    Encouraging utility innovation and targeted research, development, and demonstration over

    the next few years is essential for the utilities to gain the practical experience required to

    demonstrate the value of innovative products to customers, and to promote development and use of

    these products over the long term.

    II.

    DATA ACCESS, PRIVACY AND A DATA EX CHANGE:

    The Joint Utilities agree with commenters who raise concerns regarding data security and

    customer privacy.' The joint Utilities currently manage these concerns in a manner that serves

    customer interests and keeps utility information secure in accordance with federal standards and

    guidelines, such as the North American Electric Reliability Corporation's Critical Information

    Protection standards. Third parties gaining access to customer and operational data are not

    generally held to the same standards today, and it is unclear whether they could be held to such

    standards in the future. Therefore, these reasons support a Commission determination that the

    Joint Utilities should continue to manage data sharing processes and platforms in the future.

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    AARP PULP Comments, p. 9.

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    See e.g.

    CPA. Comments, pp. 2, 5; Comments of IBM Corporation ( IBM Comments ), p. 6; UIU

    Comm ents, p. 12; and AARP PULP Comm ents, p. 8.

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    Specifically, the Joint Utilities disagree with the joint comments of EnergyHub and

    Alarm.com

    , which support the use of a third party to operate a data exchange.

    The Joint Utilities

    do not believe that it is necessary or cost-effective to create a separate data exchange system. The

    creation of a new data system would require multiple inputs and dedicated staff from all

    stakeholders to provide constant updates and ongoing site maintenance. A new data system would

    also likely preclude functionality appropriately tailored to each service territory. It would be more

    timely and cost-effective to determine data sharing needs and where possible utilize and build upon

    the existing utility systems that already provide many of the features and kinds of information which

    may be needed in the future. Utilities operate these systems today and will work with third parties to

    provide data needed to support the development of DER markets in a manner that appropriately

    secures customer data and protects customer privacy. The Joint Utilities also will work

    collaboratively toward the standardization of data systems, to the extent reasonably possible.

    The Joint Utilities are also well positioned to successfully implement web-based tools to

    provide additional information, services, and functionality that could be implemented under REV.

    This is supported by studies conducted by Accenture and Opower indicating that utilities have

    established strong brand recognition and trust with their customers.

    These studies also support the

    conclusion that utility websites are a highly effective channel for providing information to customers

    on energy-related, value-added services.

    Parties advocating for the development of new web portals or other new third-party sites

    generally ignore or downplay the potential data security risks. However, at least one commenter,

    Consumer Power Advocates, expressly acknowledges this risk as a potential data security issue,

    asserting that any data link intended to support new utility services, especially any connection to

    building management systems, could become a vulnerable portal for any number of nefarious cyber-

    attacks.

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    The Joint Utilities agree, and emphasize that existing systems are already engineered to

    address security concerns and will continue to do so as new functionality is made available.

    Comm ents of EnergyHub and A larm.com

    ( EnergyHub Comments ), pp. 6, 10.

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    Accenture,

    The New Energy Consum er Arehi tec t li s.

    f i r the Future (201 4), p. 11 ; Opower,

    Five U niversa l Truths

    about Energy Consumers

    (201 3), p. 6.

    lo CPA Comments, p. 2.

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    EnergyHub and Alarm.com

    also suggest that a new and independent statewide system be

    deployed in lieu of utility systems.l' As noted earlier herein, development and operation of this new

    data system would be expensive and complex as it would require multiple inputs and dedicated staff

    from all stakeholders to provide continuous updates and ongoing site maintenance. A new data

    system would also likely preclude the specific functionality that must be tailored to each utility's

    service territory. Moreover, a new data system would create unnecessary and costly redundancy

    because utilities would continue to maintain and enhance their respective existing systems.

    In addition to sharing the Joint Utilities' concerns about data access and privacy,

    2 many

    commenters express reservations about the Straw Proposal's support for opt-out data sharing, which

    results in the automatic disclosure of customer information unless a customer initially takes an

    affirmative action to opt-out .

    3 The Utility Intervention Unit ( UIU ) speaks directly to this issue,

    stating that it is very concerned with consumer protections being eliminated and that opt-out

    could raise privacy and security concerns. ' Other parties agree, including the Buffalo Niagara

    Medical Campus, which states that access to data should be at the sole discretion of the customer

    and lamn opt-out arrangement, as suggested by the Straw Proposal, unnecessarily jeopardizes the

    confidential and proprietary nature of that data, ' and the City of New York, which states that

    access should only come on affirmative action by customers.

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    Other parties, such as the National

    Electrical Manufacturers Association ( NEMA ), assert that data should be provided at the

    customer's discretion, which would require an affirmative act or authorization (opt-in) in contrast

    to the Straw Proposal's opt-out automatic clisclosure.

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    Other parties go further, including Nucor

    Steel, which states succinctly that individual customer data should not be disclosed absent express

    permission of the customer, and customer billing information should not be disclosed at all.

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    Missing from the comments in support of opt-out is any justification for relaxing existing

    customer privacy and data security policies. As noted above, most comments that reference the

    issue advocate for protection of customer privacy and data security in a manner consistent with the

    EnergyHub Com ments, p. 2.

    12

    CPA Comments, pp. 2, 5; IBM Comments, p. 6; UIU Comments, p. 2, AARP & PULP Comments, p. 8.

    13

    Straw Proposal, p. 24.

    14 UIU Comments, p. 12,

    15

    Comments of Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus ( BNM C Comments ), p. 2.

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    City of NY Comments, p. 14.

    Comments of National Electrical Manufacturers' Association ( NEMA Comments ), p. 9.

    18

    Nucor Steel Comm ents, p. 5.

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    Joint Utilities' proposed approach, i.e., disclosure subject to prior explicit consent. The Straw

    Proposal suggests that automatic disclosure of customer data is appropriate to reveal opportunities

    for near term DER products and services to consumer data, which would lead to solicitations and

    advertisements by DER providers for such products and services.' The Joint Utilities disagree with

    that position.

    A few parties, primarily those that seek to offer consolidated Energy Service Company

    ( ESCO ) billing ( CEB ), comment that CEB is needed to increase customer engagement and

    provide value-added services.2

    The Joint Utilities provided comments as part of the Commission's

    ongoing Retail Access Proceeding in Case 12-M-0476, wherein the utilities explained in detail the

    significant complexities and concerns that must be considered when discussing the viability and/or

    appropriateness of CEB. The Joint Utilities agree with Staff's recommendation for a stakeholder

    process to address this issue and also point out that transition to a CEB model would need to

    address a number of complex issues, including consumer protections and compliance with the

    Public Service Law, the Home Energy Fair Practices Act, and the Energy Consumer Protection Act.

    I II . DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM PLANNING PRO CESS

    The Joint Utilities observe that several parties fail to appreciate the complexity of the

    distribution system planning process. System planning must consider a myriad of disparate factors

    including capital-intensive and long-lead system components (i.e., substations, sub-transmission

    feeders, primary distribution feeders, etc.), the manner in which forecasts of load, weather, and

    capability affect design requirements, and a dynamic planning horizon that may imply different

    needs in different phases (i.e., one-year, five-year, and ten-year planning). The Joint Utilities note

    that the complexities associated with open planning processes must be considered and

    accommodated in the Distributed System Implementation Plan ( DSIP ) stakeholder process in

    order to ma intain appropriate flexibility reliability and safety.

    Because distribution planning can be relatively short-term (i.e., one year), it is necessary that

    planning processes be responsive to compressed timelines for system enhancement. In order to

    maintain safe and reliable electric service, in some circumstances the Joint Utilities must be allowed

    19

    Straw Proposal, p. 24.

    20

    Direct Energy Comments, p. 15; Infinite Energy Comments, p. 8.

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    sufficient latitude to prevent lengthy, complex, and open planning processes from interfering with

    the ability to respond in a timely manner.

    Parties may also be unaware of common utility planning practices that would be difficult to

    implement under an open planning system. For example, utilities often agree not to disclose

    confidential information relating to economic development projects or upgrades with respect to

    customers in highly competitive businesses. 2

    Distribution system needs may hinge on a single

    customer coming, going, or growing. In these instances, distribution projects must be implemented

    in a timely manner to meet customer needs, and can often be scaled up or down or cancelled as

    development progresses. Market-based alternatives to traditional transmission and distribution

    ( T&D ) investments may be challenged to accommodate these planning scenarios as well as

    conventional system capacity enhancements.

    IV. BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS

    The Joint Utilities generally support comments that emphasize the importance of

    considering customer bill impacts resulting from REV22 and reiterate that the central focus of the

    REV initiative should be to create value for all customers.

    A primary objective of the BCA framework and, separately, a DER pricing/valuation

    methodology, should be to help New York achieve its energy policy objectives in the most efficient

    and cost-effective manner, with a consideration for needed flexibility to evolve programs and

    benefits over time so as to address any unanticipated benefits. Meeting this objective would help to

    satisfy the expressed concerns of customer advocacy groups in this proceeding. In addition, the

    Joint Utilities emphasize that the BCA framework must take into account bill impacts for all

    customers, DER participants and non-participants, including low- and moderate-income customers.

    The Joint Utilities also support efforts in Track 2 to evaluate rate designs that must necessarily

    address fair and equitable cost allocation among customers.

    The Joint Utilities note substantial areas of disagreement among the parties on key

    components of the BCA framework.

    2 3

    A stakeholder process should be employed to appropriately

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    Non-disclosure agreements to protect competitive business needs are permissible and appropriate.

    22

    See e .g .

    AAR P PULP Comm ents, pp. 15, 16; City of NY Comm ents, p. 15; UIU Comm ents, pp. 14-16;

    MI Comments, p. 6; Nucor Steel Comments, pp. 7-11; and Comments of New York Geothermal Energy

    Organization, pp. 2, 3.

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    identify and address these issues. The stakeholder process would help ensure a rigorous evaluation

    of how BCA framework options can advance the policy goals of the state and promote value for

    customers.

    The Joint Utilities join many parties in emphasizing the importance of advancing the BCA

    framework to support REV design and implementation. This process will inform at least six

    potential work activities including the technical platform design stakeholder process, market

    design stakeholder process, DSIP methodology stakeholder process, DSIP plan, uniform DSP plan,

    and market oversight and auditing.

    V. MARKET POWER AND UTILITY ENGAGEMENT IN DISTRIBUTED ENERGY RESOURCES

    Various parties offer a wide range of comments regarding utility ownership of DER and

    some address market power concerns. Many parties did not comment at all on this section.

    Independent Power Producers of New York ( IPPNY ), NRG Energy, Inc., and several ESCOs

    refer to the Commissions' Vertical Market Power Policy Statement and suggest that it may be

    applied to REV, which the Joint Utilities continue to oppose.

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    Viewed as a whole, the comments reflect recognition of the key role utilities can play to

    promote the goals of REV and offer broad-based support for utility ownership of DER.

    5 Regulated

    utilities will continue to collaborate with stakeholders and Staff, and will remain subject to the

    Commission's regulation going forward. There will be ample opportunity to address any actual

    observed market power concerns in the future. Any market power concerns that may emerge must

    examine all entities, including unregulated parties, and any mitigation measures, monitoring, and

    enforcement mechanisms must also apply to all market participants.

    In these Reply Comments, the Joint Utilities reiterate three key points made in their initial

    comments in support of utility ownership of DER and the ultimate creation of a DER market.

    First, in contrast to unregulated participants in this proceeding, the utilities have the

    obligation to serve the interests of all customers. The utilities are already regulated by the

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    See e .g .

    the Straw Proposal, p. 24, n. 22; CLP Comm ents, p. 7; CEA Comm ents, p. 20; and Direct Energy

    Comments, p. 17.

    24

    CPA, CLP, IPPNY, IGS Energy, MI, NEMA, NRG, Nucor Steel, and SolarCity Corporation

    ( SolarCity ) are the primary commenters raising market power concerns.

    25

    See e .g .

    Comm ents of Bloom E nergy, p. 5; BNMC C omm ents, p. 4; Comm ents of Exelon Corporation

    ( Exelon Comm ents ), p. 16; and PSEG LI Com ments, pp. 9, 10.

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    Commission and are committed to advancing REV objectives, focusing on the long-term impacts to

    all customers while producing near-term progress. The utilities are uniquely and ideally positioned

    to move REV forward through the development of DER projects that benefit mass market

    customers. The objections of generators and ESCOs are both unjustified and premature.

    Second, customers should be able to choose their DER provider and should be provided the

    ability to meet all their energy needs through their utility should they choose to do so. A utility DER

    program provides the opportunity to deliver broad customer engagement across all market sectors,

    including customers with limiting circumstances (such as physical space, property ownership, or

    finances) that may make them less attractive to other DER providers, or for customers who simply

    want their utility to manage these resources for them. The importance of allowing customers to

    have the ability to choose their utility as their DER provider, to expanding customer access to DER,

    and increasing customer engagement should not be underestimated.

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    In providing DER services

    (primarily focused on energy efficiency programs to-date), utilities routinely seek to procure from

    and/or partner with third parties, promoting competition among vendors, growing value chains, and

    expanding overall market opportunity. There are many ways to animate markets and promote

    innovation, including regulated utility investment in DER services for the benefit of individual

    customers and the electric system to which they are connected.

    Third, as the Straw Proposal recognizes at footnote 39, and as previously noted in these

    comments, market power concerns are not limited to utilities. In a mature market where DER

    pricing is differentiated at the level of individual distribution circuits, a third-party provider

    controlling a significant portion of load on a given circuit could have the ability to manipulate power

    flows in order to create favorable pricing opportunities. Until such time as there is a functioning

    market at the distribution level, the concentration of generation, energy storage, and/or load control

    by any entity does not merit a burdensome regulatory solution.

    Comments from parties related to regulatory oversight are relevant to this discussion. Nucor

    Steel and other parties suggest that Commission oversight of DER providers is unnecessary.

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    Contrary to this view, the Joint Utilities believe it is important that the Commission clarify the extent

    to which oversight of DER providers should occur. It is important that the Commission address all

    26 Com ments of ENE and Vermont Energy Investment Corporation p. 2.

    27

    See es. Nucor Steel Comm ents p. 5.

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    relevant safety, reliability, customer and data protections, and performance matters related to DER

    providers.

    For example, existing regulatory mechanisms with a successful record for oversight of

    ESCOs providing retail service in New York can be modified to address oversight of DER

    providers. Customization of the retail access mechanisms would necessarily entail balancing the

    priorities of rigorous customer protections and creating a regulatory and market environment that

    encourages third parties to offer innovative products and services. DER oversight mechanisms

    must be designed to evolve as experience is gained and programs mature.

    It may be appropriate and efficient to implement enforcement mechanisms that will provide

    assurance of resource availability and adequacy, and a high standard of performance by all entities

    offering products and services to the market. As the deployment of DER technologies accelerates,

    reliable and sustained performance by DER providers will be critical to the ability of utilities and

    their customers to rely on DER to provide a safe and reliable electric system.

    VI. INTERCONNECTION PROCEDURES

    The Joint Utilities note that a number of commenters support increasing the New York

    State Standardized Interconnection Requirements ( SIR ) from Distributed Generation ( DG )

    installations of 2 megawatts ( MW ) or less in capacity to those 5 MW or less in capacity while other

    commenters support an increase to an unspecified higher MW level.

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    As noted in the Joint Utilities'

    initial comments, we are willing to discuss the possible expansion of the SIR to DG installations

    greater than 2 MW in capacity, inclusive of combined heat and power technologies,' provided that

    timelines for accomplishing interconnection milestones correspond to the complexity of the

    generation facility and its location on the distribution system. PSEG Long Island LLC ( PSEG LI )

    cautions that such an increase in capacity eligibility will require a thorough evaluation to ensure the

    proper protections are considered for both the DG developer and the distribution system with

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    See e .g .

    Comments of The Nature Conservancy ( TNC Comments ) p. 8; NFGDC Comments, p. 25;

    Comments of Interstate Renewable Energy Council, Inc., pp. 12, 13; and Comments of Solar Energy

    Industries Association ( SETA C omm ents ), p. 13. The Advanced Energy Economy Institute ( AEE I )

    supports revisiting the 2 M W capacity limit but does not advocate for a specific higher capacity limit and

    notes that neither California nor Massachusetts has an upper size limit. Comments of AEEI ( AEEI

    Comm ents ), p. 35.

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    How ever, the Joint Utilities do not support the inclusion of CH P as an eligible net m etering technology.

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    respect to personnel and equipment.

    3 0

    These comments echo the concerns of the Joint Utilities

    that safety and reliability are fundamental requirements of the interconnection process employed.

    Other parties generally support the Straw Proposal's recommendations for reducing the time

    and cost of interconnecting DG to utility systems while increasing the transparency of the

    interconnection process.' As noted in the Joint Utilities' initial comments, we are ready to work

    with the DER community to improve the interconnection process for both applicants and the

    utilities through standardization where appropriate without compromising safety and reliability.

    The Joint Utilities support the concept of a periodic, comprehensive SIR review process as

    recommended in the Straw Proposal. As noted by a number of commenters, it will be necessary for

    interconnection policies and procedures to evolve to consider emerging technologies which today

    may not fit within the current SIR.

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    The Joint Utilities assert that any SIR review process should

    focus first on technical requirements with timeline considerations dictated by the technical

    requirements. uch a review process should be collaborative and encourage stakeholder

    participation. This collaborative review process is essential before Staff recommends or the

    Commission adopts changes to the SIR.

    VII. CLEAN ENERGY PROGRAMS

    The utilities' positions on matters relating to renewable resources and the Main Tier of the

    Renewable Portfolio Standard ( RPS ) Program will be presented in detail in their October 27, 2014

    responses to the recent State Administrative Procedures Act ( SAPA ) notice on Main Tier

    Resources Procurement. The remainder of this section will focus on energy efficiency, load

    management, and NYSERDA's CEF Proposal.

    The Joint Utilities and many responding parties recognize the importance of coordinating

    multiple State regulatory and policy objectives, including the continued importance of clean energy

    market development in the eventual wide-scale deployment of DERs in the post-REV market.

    Addressing the role of utilities in bringing DER solutions to the market, and maintaining continuity

    with existing programs, is critical. The Joint Utilities maintain that they are best suited to leverage

    30

    PSEG LI Comments p. 16.

    31

    See e .g. MI Comments, p. 29; and Comments of New York Battery and Energy Storage Technology

    Consortium Inc. p. 13.

    32

    See e.g.

    Comm ents of Energy Technology Savings LLC p. 8; PSEG L I Comments p. 15; Comm ents of

    the Alliance for Solar Choice p. 19; NR G Comments pp. 17 18; and SEIA Comments p. 13.

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    their existing customer relationships to advance energy efficiency and the DER marketplace through

    programs in their Energy Efficiency Transition Implementation Plan ( ETIP ) proposals. A

    primary interest of many responding parties, and a principal point of attention for the Joint Utilities,

    is the uncertain planning horizon for programs being funded through the current System Benefits

    Charge ( SBC ), Energy Efficiency Portfolio Standard ( EEPS ), and RPS collections.

    The Straw Proposal suggests that utilities consider a transition from the current funding

    paradigms to a REV-defined clean energy market through the development and filing of ETIPs.

    The Joint Utilities express support for the ETIP concept as it appeared in the Straw Proposal, and

    NYSERDA in its comments suggests close coordination between the development of the CEF and

    the utility ETIPs. However, the Joint Utilities note that NYSERDA's CEF Proposal seems at odds

    with the Straw Proposal because it attempts to cast NYSERDA in a lead role for both maintaining

    long-term relationships with customers and implementing energy efficiency programs. Specifically,

    whereas NYSERDA seems to base its CEF Proposal and comments to the Straw Proposal on the

    assumption that utilities will be limited to DER projects where targeted T&D system deferrals are

    warranted,33 the Straw Proposal clearly states that each utility's current efficiency targets today will be

    their floor in the future.34

    The current overlap and market segmentation that exists between NYSERDA and utility-

    administered programs remain undesirable outcomes from the original EEPS proceeding. As a

    result, the Joint Utilities assert that achieving future clean energy goals while implementing targeted

    DER projects is best facilitated by the utilities taking on the role for administering distribution-level

    energy efficiency, demand reduction, and demand response programs within their respective service

    territories. While the Joint Utilities will file comments on NYSERDA's CEF Proposal,

    5 the Joint

    33

    NYSE RDA , CEF Proposal, pp. 38-40.

    34

    Straw Proposal, p. 54.

    35

    See e .g. the following SAPA Notice IDs:

    i.

    No. PSC-41-14-00010-P ( Reallocation of EEPS and SBC Funds );

    ii.

    No. PSC-41-14-00011-P ( Establishment of Annual Collections Caps and Collection and Spending

    Mechanisms as Described in the Clean Energy Fund Proposal );

    iii. No. PSC-41-14-00012-P ( Funding and Managem ent of the NY-Sun Program as Described in the

    Clean Energy Fund Proposal );

    iv.

    No. PSC-41-14-00013-P ( Funding and Collections for the New York Green Bank as Described in

    the Clean Energy Fund Proposal );

    v. No. PSC-41-14-00014-P ( Funding and Management of a Market Development Program as

    Described in the Clean Energy Fund P roposal ); and

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    Utilities urge the Commission to recognize that the utilities are best suited to manage the customer

    relationship and help facilitate a solution that effectively meets customer requirements. This primary

    facilitation role will help to develop the market and allow for the adoption of DERs through a

    utility-managed and/or third-party solution. The role of NYSERDA should be on upstream

    research, development, and demonstration, and technology and market development activities.

    The joint Utilities suggest that the current lack of certainty as to how these important

    programs will function in relation to each other has given rise to other comments seeking

    clarification of future roles and missions. The UIU, for example, seeks clarification for whether -

    coordination of missions is intended to take place among the REV proceeding, the CEF, and the

    Green Bank. Similarly, the American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy ( ACEEE )

    suggests that NYSERDA and the utilities should have mutual sharing of efficiency goals in

    individual utility service territories. These two comments reflect uncertainty regarding the future

    roles of NYSERDA and the utilities, and the need for ongoing surcharges to support overlapping

    programs. Like the UIU, the Joint Utilities support clear and definitive roles and timelines to ensure

    that the State's energy programs are uninterrupted while undergoing this fundamental market

    transition to a REV-defined future. However, and as stated previously in comments to Staffs EEPS

    Restructuring Proposal, the Joint Utilities disagree with ACEEE's suggestion, as we cannot accept

    responsibility for attaining program goals or policy objectives that are not under the utility's direct

    control. In fact, the Joint Utilities are concerned that existing energy efficiency targets may not be

    attainable if NYSERDA continues to share responsibility for energy efficiency targets with utilities.

    The New York Power Authority ( NYPA ) suggests that the Joint Utilities should

    coordinate with NYPA as distribution utilities begin to designate previously proposed T&D projects

    that could be deferred in favor of DER as the Joint Utilities develop their ETIPS. Participation of

    NYPA customers in utility programs will be critical to achieving state policy objectives and utility

    infrastructure goals. As a point of clarification, the joint Utilities are currently planning to address

    deferral of T&D infrastructure elsewhere, and not all utilities plan to advance these proposals

    through the ETIPs filed by March 2015. However, the Joint Utilities strongly support coordination

    with NYPA in achieving system-specific goals, and emphasize the importance of NYPA customers'

    ability to participate in all ETIP and REV-defined programs. The Joint Utilities also support

    vi. No. PSC-41-14-00015-P ( Funding and Management of a Technology and Business Innovation

    Program as Described in the Clean Energy Fund Proposal ).

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    working with NYPA in future ETIP filings to ensure that its customers have the ability to participate

    in future programs.

    Multiple Intervenors ( MI ) assert that energy efficiency programs should focus on reducing

    peak dernand.

    6

    In response, the Joint Utilities clarify that future utility REV-defined efforts will not

    only address system peak concerns, but should also address local (network) peak, energy reduction

    needs, or some combination thereof.

    The Straw Proposal recommends that each ETIP should include a portfolio of energy

    efficiency programs with an associated annual energy savings goal that is no less than currently

    assigned through EEPS.

    7 The comments of ACEEE, The Nature Conservancy, and the New

    York State Department of Environmental Conservation ( DEC ) support achieving increased

    energy savings and, thus, more emission and MW reductions.

    8

    The Joint Utilities maintain that

    additional goals beyond existing energy (megawatt-hour ( MWh )) targets under EEPS will require

    additional funding for two reasons. First, current EEPS budgets do not reflect increased costs (e.g.,

    labor, materials) since the inception of EEPS in 2008. Second, budgets do not recognize the

    increased costs to achieve the additional MWh savings as program implementation requires deeper

    market penetration than energy savings achieved when EEPS was first launched.

    NYSERDA recommends the adoption of a fuel-neutral approach and that programs should

    be designed to realize and credit emission reduction efforts that result in reduced on-site (non-

    electric) fuel consumption. The joint Utilities recommend that this topic be addressed in Track 2

    due to its potential rate implications.

    Walmart comments that the SBC surcharge system should be modified immediately to allow

    large customers to opt out of surcharge programs and collections.

    9

    MI's position is similar, in that

    it advocates for energy efficiency that is self-sustaining without customer-funded subsidies:to The

    Commission's current position with regard to surcharge collection applies to all customer sizes. To

    the extent that surcharge exemptions are considered, the Commission will need to consider whether

    customers seeking such exemptions benefit from these programs, the State's ability to fund ongoing

    36

    MI Com ments, p. 5.

    37

    Straw Proposal, p. 53.

    38

    Comments of ACEEE ( ACEEE Comments ), pp. 1, 2; INC Comments, p. 6; and Comments of the

    NYS Dep artment of Environmental Conservation ( DE C Comm ents ), p. 7.

    39

    Comments of Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. and Sam's East, Inc. ( Walmart ), pp. 6, 7.

    MI Com ments, p. 10.

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    clean energy programs, and, in particular, the bill impacts these exemptions would have on

    residential and small commercial customers.

    VIII. IMPLEMENTATION OF REV

    The Joint Utilities view the implementation of REV as a multi-year, phased, and iterative

    process that will evolve as experience is gained with new resources, technology integration, and

    customer preferences and demand. This is consistent with the Straw Proposal's statement that

    REV will require years of iterative planning and increasingly granular design determinations. The

    Joint Utilities agree with commenters that suggest the three stakeholder processes (i.e., Market

    Design, Technical Platform Design, and Benefit/Cost Analysis) will need to be closely coordinated.

    However, the Joint Utilities do not support an approach that would merge the stakeholder processes

    into a single stakeholder process.

    2

    Distinct areas of focus will require the expertise of various

    subject matter experts.

    Several commenters

    4 3

    emphasize the importance of clear goals, outcomes, timelines,

    deliverables, processes, and governance structures to the success of the various stakeholder

    processes. The Joint Utilities agree, and believe that stakeholder process charters and work scopes

    should include these elements to be developed and coordinated up front. To ensure work efforts

    stay on track and achieve near-term progress, the Joint Utilities recommend that work plans be

    divided into three- to six-month phases with clear deliverables at the end of each phase.

    The New York State Smart Grid Consortium (the Consortium ) agrees with Staff that

    several distinct areas related to REV implementation will need to be considered through stakeholder

    processes. A key element of REV implementation will be the identification of standards and

    protocols that will allow various DER devices to communicate, respond to operational signals, and

    seamlessly integrate to manage electricity flows on the distribution system. The Joint Utilities

    recognize the Consortium can add value to the identification of these standards and protocols and,

    as such, recommend that the Consortium, in conjunction with the distribution utilities, initiate and

    lead a stakeholder process to develop the DSP technical architecture, including standards and

    protocols, necessary to achieve the Commission's REV goals. The Joint Utilities also recognize the

    41

    S e e e . g .

    CLP Comments p. 8; and PSEG L I Comments pp. 20 21.

    42

    See e.g.

    Direct Energy Comments p. 28; and NYIS O C omments p. 6.

    3

    See e.g.

    City of NY Comments p. 8; UIU C omments p. 24; AE EI Comments pp. 23 40.

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    importance of engaging other entities with a nation-wide perspective, such as the Electric Power

    Research Institute ( EPRI ) or a national standards organization like the National Institute of

    Standards and Technology ( NIST ). Before such standards and protocols can be identified,

    however, certain aspects of the basic business architecture and functional relationships between the

    DSP, customers, and other DER market participants must be better understood through a separate

    technology and market stakeholder process as noted in the Straw Proposal:

    The Joint Utilities support the Consortium beginning research to identify applicable existing

    standards and protocols and where they may already be in use by utility systems in New York. The

    Joint Utilities believe substantial progress toward identifying standards and protocols can be made in

    the initial eight-month work schedule envisioned by the Consortium, but subsequent phases may be

    needed to refine and further develop this work as experience is gained through demonstration

    projects. A clear charter and work scope should be developed in preparation for the stakeholder

    processes. The Joint Utilities have continued to advance technology information gathering, using

    the Staff's technology platform tool in preparation for future stakeholder processes.

    Many parties express agreement with the Joint Utilities' concern that parallel but

    uncoordinated development of Track 1 and Track 2 policy questions could result in considerable

    delays in necessary policy determinations, diminishing the opportunity to achieve the Commission's

    REV objectives in a timely manner. These parties

    5

    note that many Track 2 policy issues must be

    resolved before core elements of REV implementation can begin in earnest. As MI notes, the

    resolution of selected Track One and Track Two issues is iterative in nature care should be

    exercised not to get too far ahead in the implementation of Track One before critical Track Two

    issues have been decided. Indeed, the resolution of selected Track Two issues may inform, and

    influence, the appropriate resolution of Track One issues and their optimal implementation. 4

    6

    The Joint Utilities do not agree with parties4

    7

    who recommend that final orders on Track 1

    and Track 2 should be subject to the completion of the technical mapping process. Policy clarity in

    44

    The Joint Utilities will work with Staff to support these efforts through the envisioned market design and

    technology platform design processes. The results will be used to support efforts with respect to

    standards and p rotocols.

    45

    See e.g

    CLP Comments p. 2; UIU Comments pp. 2 5; MI Comments pp. 30-31 CEA Comments p.

    37; and PSEG LI Comments p. 22.

    46

    MI Comments p. 34.

    47

    See

    EEI Comments p. 23.

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    many areas is needed to advance the Straw Proposal's near-term actions, and should not be delayed

    by any stakeholder processes that could take significant time to complete. The technical mapping

    process in particular should continue and inform utility investment decisions and the formation of

    utility DSP plans as REV is implemented.

    Convergence of the two tracks will enable the Commission to resolve cost recovery

    uncertainty pertaining to incremental REV expenses and investments, including payment for

    products and services from DER providers (to the extent that these payments exceed avoided costs),

    and the incorporation of externalities into these and other spending decisions. This uncertainty in

    cost recovery and a BCA framework affects the utilities' ability to invest in near-term no-regrets

    initiatives and demonstration projects. Many parties have expressed support for these programs to

    test customer acceptance and gauge the strengths of utilities and third parties. Utilities can make

    material investments in and fully deploy demonstration projects or other REV features once

    appropriate cost recovery mechanisms and BCA framework have been established.

    The Joint Utilities disagree with cornmenters

    4 9

    that recommend a separate stakeholder

    process to address performance requirements for DER and DER providers. These issues should be

    considered by the Technical Platform Design and Market Design stakeholder processes.

    Finally, the Joint Utilities agree with commenters that recommend the development of a

    DSIP should follow the Technical Platform Design and Market Design stakeholder processes as key

    decisions in the formation of the DSIP will depend on the outcome of those processes.

    CONCLUSION

    The Joint Utilities appreciate the opportunity to provide these Reply Comments, and look

    forward to continuing collaboration with Staff, the Commission, and stakeholders on this important

    reform.

    48

    See e.g.

    CEA Comments, pp. 31, 32; ChargePoint Comments, pp. 4, 5; CPA Comments, p. 8; Direct

    Energy Comments, pp. 6, 23, 24; Infinite Energy Comments, p. 9; Simple Energy Comments, p. 13;

    Agreen Energy & Vanguard Comments, p. 11; AEEI Comments, p. 6; Exelon Comments, p. 28; and

    NRG Comments p. 17.

    See e .g. PSEG LI Comments p. 21; and SolarCity Comments pp. 2 3.

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    aul L. Gioia

    Date: October 24, 2014

    Albany, New York

    WHITEMAN OSTERMAN HANNA LLP

    Attorney for C ral Hudson Gas and Electric Corporation

    Consolidated Edison Company of New York, Inc., New York State

    Electric Gas Corporation, Niagara Moh awk Power Corporation

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    Rochester Gas and Electric Corporation

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