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AvideointerviewwithDanBurisch-Part2LasVegas,July2006
Shot,editedanddirectedbyKerryLynnCassidy(continuedfromPart1-pleaseclickhere)
...theresarealhumanbeingbehindit,asmessedupastheyare,probably
more...Yeah.Theyoughttoknowthat.
RelationshipwithChielah:J-RodKerryCassidy:Imgoingtotellyouhonestly.WhenIsawBillHamiltonssegment,interviewwithyouandyouretalkingaboutyourrelationshipwithJ-Rodandhowyoucommunicatedwithhimtelepathically...
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DanBurisch:Uhhuh.
K:Thatstruckmeasincrediblyreal.AndfromthatpointonIwasveryinterestedinwhatyouhadtosay.
D:Ah...
K:BecauseIsaid,thismanreallyexperiencedthis.Thisisnotbullshit.Thisistherealthing.
D:Yeah.
K:Soifyoucouldreiterate,kindofhowyoustartedworkingwithJ-Rod...
D:Well,hewasworkingwithmebeforeIeverknewhim.Ofcourse,hewasonboard,asIunderstand.IhavenomemoryofhimdirectlybutImean,asIunderstandit,in73...hehadtraveledto73andthen...thisisevenwhatIsaidtoJeffRenseonthephone.Youknow,Isaid,MyGod,ifthisdoesntboggle.Imean,itboggledmymind.Andwhenyouthinkaboutparadoxestostartwith.Thathetraveledto73,Iwaspickedupandthenhesubsequentlytraveledbacktothe53timeframeandtherewasacrash.WhichmeansthathewasheldatS-4in1973,atthetimethatIwasplayingbaseballwithmygrandpa,andthathewasalsoonboardthecraft,impingingintoourtime,liftingmeup.Prosaically,man,itsoundscrazy,but,yeah,itsaparadox,Iguess,Imean...
butIactuallycameintodirectcontactwithhimattheendof1993,thestartof94.
Yeah,thereissomethingwrongwithhim.Duringtheentiretyofmyexperiencearoundhim,heappearedthebestthatIcandescribeisoff-shifted.Almostlike...Imean,hewasphysical.Ifelthimthroughtheglove.Therewasmattertherewithme,butalmostlikehewasaghostwithabody.Hedidntbelong.Hedidnotbelongwherehewas.Yetwhenhewouldcommunicate,whenhewoulddotheentrainment...ah...theythumpyou.Almost...itsalmostacoustically.Theythumpyou,and...untiltheyfinallycomeintocontactwiththebrain-levelwaveswheretheycanbegincommunicating.Anditcomesinwaves.Itsalmostlikeflukesonadolphin.Itcomesinwaves.Andthenyoufeelyourselfpulled
in.Astheentrainmentisoccurringtheperceptionisbeingpulledintohiseyes.Veryunwieldy[chuckle]feeling.Butthentheyentrain,bringyou...bringyoudownto,youknow,relaxedalmosttoathetastate,likean8hertzthing,thetastate,whereyourevery,almostlikedrowsyandtheytellyou,youknow,theyrenotgoingtohurtyou.Hedidthat.Heactuallysaidthathewouldnotharmme.
Whenhesteppedforwardonme,whenweweredoingtheoldbridesdance,aswenicknamedit,whereIwould...Iwassupposedtostepforwardtohim,almostliketakingabridesstepuptheaisle,andthenhedidthethingbacktomealmostjokingly...butitwassounwieldybecausehebroketheprotocol.Itwaslikeeverythingthathadbeenestablishedoftrustatthatmoment...itwenttohell.AndIgotsoafraid.Therewasananimalresponseinmeatthatmoment,a
very,veryhumananimalisticresponse...Getmethehelloutofhere.
Yeah,IsteppedbackwardandfellbackwardontomybackandthatisreallywhatIperceivedmyselfasdoing.AsIsaidtoJeff[Rense],IfeltlikeIwasacockroach,youknow,lyingonmybackinthere.Andhewalkedupontome.Iheardthemyelling,Firetherepress.Theyweregoingtointumescehim.Theyweregoingtohurthim,sothathewouldnthurtmeandIwastryingtoyellNo!andImnotevensuretothisdayifIreallyyelledNoorifitwasjustinmymind.Thestresswasthatbadatthemoment.Andhewalked,literally
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walked,upontomeandsatonmychest.Hedidntknockmeoveroranything.Therewas,Ithink,Ronoracoupleotherpeoplesaid,Ohweknowheknockedyouoverinthecleansuit.Hecouldntknockmeover.Hewastooweaktoknockmeover.Evenifhewasnt,givenhissizehecouldnthaveknockedmeover.
K:Andhowtallwashe?
D:Justalittleoverthreefeet,huncheddown.
K:Uhhuh.
D:Almostfourfeetifhewastobeextendedoutlengthwise,ifhewouldbelyingonhisbackandextendedoutlengthwise.Butthemalady,thethepathologies,underwhichhewassuffering,causedhimtohave...weakness,changeofgait,changeofstance,wheremostofthetimehewasextremelyhunchedoverforwardandhereallycouldntstandupstraight.Whenhewouldwalkhewouldwobbleandkindofshuffle.Hewasveryill,veryill.
K:Sohegotonyourchest.Hewalkedontoyourchest,orsatonyourchest.
D:Hewasactuallysittingonmyabdomenareabuthewasleaningforwardingonhishandsontomychest,pushingmedown.
K:Washe...sohewascommunicatingatthatmomentthathewasntgoingtohurtyou?
D:Yes,hesaid,Iwonthurtyou,Be-anie.HecalledmeBe-anie.AndthatgoestoBeanie...HebrokeEnglishupverystrangely.
K:Andyouheardthisinyourhead,Imassuming...
D:Ihearditinmyhead.
K:...itwasntoutloud.
D:No,Ihearditinmyhead,inmyownintrospectivevoicebutclearlynot
comingfromme.
K:Uhhuh.
D:Youknowthesoundofyourselfwhenyoutalktoyourself.Self-talk.Itsthesamesoundexcept...itsthewronglinguistics,thewrongwording.Youcantellitsnotyou.Andinitiallywhenthathappens,too,thereisa...Frommyperspectiveinitiallywhenitwashappening,therewasaverypanickyfeeling.ButofcoursethatinitiallyhappenedwhenIwaspartofB-unitteamwhenSteven[Dr.StevenMostow]wasstillgoingintothecleansphere.Helookedatmethroughthecleansphereandspoketomeandsaid,Iremember,andHello.
K:Meaninghe...thepersonwhowas...youcalled...whatwashisname,again?TheJ-Rodlookedatyou...
D:Chielah.
K:Chielahlookedatyouwhenyou...whenStevewasinthecleanspherewithhim...
D:Yes.
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K:...heturnedaroundandlookedatyou...
D:Yeah.Heturnedaroundandlookedatme.IwaspartofaB-unitteamtostartwith.Infact,thatwasgoingtobemyactualoccupationinthere,wasassistingthechiefscientistandgoingintothecleansphere,untilheidentifiedmeassomebody,Iguess,specialtohim...Chielah...andhewantedmetobethepersontogointhere.ThatswhyIwaspromoted,ultimately,totheworkinggrouplaterinthere.BecauseIdidnthavethebackground,didnothavetheseniority.I...itwasnotmyplace.Butthatswhythe,thepromotionhappened.
K:OK.So...
D:Thewayalotofpromotionshappenintheworld,Ithink.But...
K:[laughs]Togoback...
D:ThePeterPrinciple.
D&K:[laughing]
K:Sohewentontoyourchest,hetoldyouhewasntgoingtohurtyou.Didtheyactuallyzaphimthenordidthey...
D:IdontbelievesobecauseIwouldhavefelt...hebegantoentrainmeimmediatelyandstrongly.Herelaxedme.Theencephalinsandendorphinsweregoingbigtime.Theyentrainonseverallevelsandtheyareabletorelaxyoubyactuallyfloodingyouwithnaturalopiates.
K:Uhhuh.
Marci:Likearunnershigh.
D:Right.
K:So.Whathappenedafterthat?You...Imassuming...
D:Orthehighthatyoureceiveasyouaregoingthroughthenaturaldeathprocess.
K:Uhhuh.
M:Uhhuh.Yeah.Whereyounaturallykickouttheopiates...
D:Yeah.
K:But...OK.So,butwhathappenedafterthat?
D:Ah...afterthatIbegantosinkawayfromwhatwasgoingoninthecleansphereandwiththepanicthatwasgoingonovertheradio...becauseIheardem.Wehadtwoseparateunits,anEunitandBunitontheradio.Theywerelikeseparateradiofrequencies.AndIcouldpushthebuttonandtalkindependently.Buttheyweresteppingovereachother,screaming,saying,Getasecondaryunitready,...togetmeoutofthere.Theyweregoingtoenterintopullmeout.Andyoucantjuststepintherethatquickly.Imean,theyvegottosuitsomebodyuptobringthemin.YouknewbeforeyouweregoingintherethattheJ-Rod...ah...Weweretrainedthattheywereathreat.
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K:Really...
D:Sothatwewerenotsupposedtocommunicateprivatelywiththemoranythinglikethatwehadacertainjobtodoandwewouldgetitdone.Andthatwasthescientificjobofremovingthesamplesandthenthestudyofthesamplesforthebackengineeringuseofthereversinglifechemicals.
K:Theideawastoreversehis...anillnessthatheandhispeoplehave...
D:Yeah.
K:The52s?
D:The52s.Andwhatweweretryingtodoinitially...jumpingoffontothebiologyalittlebit...whatweweretryingtodoisweweretryingtoactuallystriptheexteriorcytoplasmofffromthecellsand...ah,producecellswhichwouldbeindependentlyfunctioning,thentounderstandthosecellsbiochemically,genetically,sothatthosecellscouldthenbere-addedasagraftintotheJ-Rodtoattempttoamelioratetheneuropathy.Thatswhatoneofthe,thestatedgoalswas.Easiersaidthandone.But...
K:Sookay...
D:Weweretold,though,thatifsomethingwouldgowronginthere,therewouldbenoimmediatefix.You,youwerentamillionmilesaway,butyouwereseveralthousandwhenyouwereinsidethere.Soyouwereveryaloneeventhoughyouhadradiocommunication.Itwasessentiallybeingisolatedonthespaceshuttle,ifyouwill.Andnotthateasily...youknow,notthateasytogetyouhome.Becausetheyhadtodoalltherepressurizationsofthegantry,bringsomebodynewin,thengetyouout,thengetyoudetoxed...thecleansing...thedecontamination,andthengetyououtofthere,thengetyououtofthesuit,thengiveyoumedicaltreatment.Soweretalkingacouplehours.Soifsomethinggoeswronginthere...andtheyarepotentiallyabletoharmyoubecauseofthe,theentrainment...youredead.Andthats...youacceptedbeforeyoueveracceptedgoinginthere.And...Buttoalargepartitwasnt,youknow,itwasntbravadoonourpart,saying,Itsnobigthing,butyou
hadtoacceptthatjusttoworkinsidethefacility.Youknewthatiftherewasa...acontamination,ifthealarmsstartedgoingoff,theoldjokewas,Getinastraight-backedchair,andleanwayoverandkissyour___goodbye.Itwasover.Becauseifthealarmsstartedgoingoff,youweresealedintothefacilityandtheyweregoingtopumpthegasinandfirethefuel-airdevice.Whoa!Thatswhatthe...thatswhattheexplosivevalveswerefor.Theso-calledescapetunnels,foryoutogetoutincasetherewasanemergency?Thosewereblow-offvents...
K:Hm.
D:...sotheycouldblowoffandexplodethefacility,blowoffoutofthe
PapooseRangeandkeeptheremainderofthefacilityintact.
K:So...butyourexperiencewiththeJ-Rodandtheotheronesyouvemethavebasically...Wereyouafraidforyourlifeatanytime?Inotherwords,didyouactually...
D:Iwasafraidformylifewhenhesteppedtowardme.AbsolutelyIwas.
K:Atthatmoment...
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D:Atthatmoment,butitwasaverytransient...youknow,itwasanephemeralmoment.
K:Howdidyou...
D:...that,thatpassedoffveryquicklybecausebiochemistryhelpedmecalmdownwhenheentrainedme.
K:Howdidyoufeel,though,inyour,sortof,interactionswithhim?Inotherwords,doyoufeelthat...Yousaidthatyoudidntrememberknowinghimintheoriginalmeeting...
D:No.
K:...inthespaceship.Right?
D:Right.
K:Butheremembered,clearly.
D:Heremembered.
K:Sodidyoufeelthatyouactuallydevelopedafriendshipwiththisbeing...
D:Oh,Iabsolutelydid.Iabsolutely...
K:...andthatitgrewovertime...ordidyoufeelthatitwasinstantlythere?
D:Thatsagoodquestion.IllsaythatIfeltakinshiptohimallalongfromthetimethathefirstlookedoveratme.Andthatmayhavebeenaconsequenceofmebeingpickedupinthepark.Thatmayhavebeen.Mytrustinwhathewassayingtomegrewovertime.
Marci:BecauseIrememberaskingyouthat.Ispecificallyaskedyouthat.
D:Yeah.Mytrustgrewovertime.
K:Butitwasperhapsonadeeperlevel...
D:Therewasanextantkinshiptherewithhim.
K:Uhhuh.
D:AndIthinkthatmayhavestartedbecauseofthepickupin73,Ithink.Imtryingtosurmiseit.Therewasapickupofthejovialnatureofourfriendshipovertime.Certainly...becauseIvegotkindofastrangesenseofhumorandhewasabletobefriendswiththatkindofsameweirdsenseofhumor,wherehewouldlookoveratmeandhewouldtellmethat...whathisbehaviorwas...becauseIcouldnttellwhenhewashappyorwhenhewassadbecauseofphysicalcharacteristics,thateasily.Youknow,youcantellfairlyquicklywithahuman
beingfromnow:iftheyrehappytheyresmilingatyou.ButIcouldnttellifthatwaspainorwhatitwasonhisfaceuntilhespecificallyinformedmethatthatshissmile,thatshislaugh.Asthatgrew,myrelationshipwithhimgrew.IbecamemoreattunedtohisphysicalresponsesaswellandIthinkthatpickedourfriendshipupaswellbecauseImmoreassociatingwithanotherhumanbeingwithphysicalreactionsaswell,youknow,inthecommunication.Andtheywerelessso.Sothatwasdifficult.Thatwasverydifficult.UntilIbecameattuned,whereIbecamemorerelaxedintowhathisphysicalresponseswere.WhenIknew
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hewaslaughing,afterthat,thenthatgotmeintotroublewiththefolksinthefacilitybecauseIreactednaturallytohisphysicalresponses.AndsoIwouldsmileorwhateveroverathim,andtheywouldsay,Whatistranspiringbetweenyoutwo?Idhearitcomeovertheradio.
K:Uhhuh.
D:SometimesIwouldoutandoutlietothemandsay,Nothing.BecauseIwasafraid.Ihad...Idid...Ihadafearoflosinghisfriendshiptoo,becauseIwantedtolearnmorefromhim.AndsoIwaswilling...andthesearethesamepeoplethat,youknow,willpointthegunatmewithverylittlecompunctionagainstit.Iwaswillingtobefriendly,too,becausehewasacaptivethereasIwasfeeling,too,acaptivewithinMajestic,becauseIhadbeenbroughtintoaprogramthatIhadnoclueforwhatIwasbeingbroughtinto.SoIfeltkindoftrespassedagainst,too.
K:Uhhuh.Soyouhadacamaraderieinthatsense.
D:Yeah.Wewerebothprisonersinourownright.
K:Didyouthinkthathehadtheabilitytoprotectyou?
D:No.I...infact,itwas...ifanything,itwastheotherwayaround.
K:Uhhuh.
D:Iwascoveringforhimandalotofhisanger.Hehadangerinhimtoo,andpain.Andangerasaresultofpainfromthesamplesbeingremoved.Iwascoveringforhimbynottellingthemoftheanger,becausethentheywouldhavefollowedanoperantconditioningprotocolthathadbeensetin,againsthim,topenalizehim.SoIwasactuallyprotectinghim.
K:So,butdidhe...
D:Hesahumanbeing,forChristssake.Imean,yougetstuckwithaneedleenoughtimes,yougetperturbed.Andwhenyourebeingtreatedlikecrapontopofit...aprisonerisaprisoner.
K:Inwhatwaywashetreatedlikecrap,asyouputit?
D:Ifhewouldntrespondastheytoldhim,theywouldfirearepressvalveandchangethepressurizationinthecleansphere,causingmildtomoderateintumescense,achangeofpressuresinhisskin,becausehewasoflesserdensity,physicaldensity,asinweightpervolume,density.ThereasonwhyImclarifyingthatisIveheardalotofnew-ageycommentsabout4thdensity.Idontknowaboutallofthat.Asinweightpervolumetypedensity,hewaslessdense,physically,thanwewere.Hisbonestructurewaslessdensethanwewere.
Sowhentheywouldfirethe,therepressvalve,ortheywouldintumesehim,itwouldcausehimgreatpain.AndIwasscreamingNo!andIthink,youknow,thatthetimethathesteppedupontome,Ithinktheythoughtthebetterofitatthemomentbecausehewasclearlyentrainingmeatthatmoment.Soiftheywouldhavefiredthepressurizationatthatpoint,Iwouldhavefeltthepainthathewasfeeling.Anditmighthavekilledme,Idontknow.
K:Right,becauseyoudevelopeda...fromwhatIunderstand,youdeveloped...
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likethemovieET,youdevelopedtheabilitytoactuallyfeelhispain.
D:Well,itwasnteven...itwasntevendeveloped.Itwasimmediate.
K:Oh,itwasimmediate.
D:Thethingwhichwasdeveloped....andImnotsure.Itmayhaveactuallybeensomesortofaneurologicalhabituation.Imnotcertainofthat.Butthethingwhichwasdevelopedwastheinabilitytodisentrain,tobreakofffromhim.
K:Evenwhenyouleftthecleansphere?Inotherwords,regardlessofwhereyouwere?
D:[noddingyes]Within,ah,acertainrange.Within,youknow,likea15meterrangefromhim.
K:Forexample,rightnow?
D:Iwas...Icould...
K:Rightnow,couldyou...
D:No,nonono.
K...feelhispain?
D:No.
K:Ifhewantedyoutofeelit,couldyou?
D:No,Idontbelieveso.Idontbelievethattheyre,ah...capable.Imean,youknow,weretalking...nowweretalkingtimedifference...
K:Uhhuh.
D:...hislackofphysicalexistenceinourreality.Andevenifweretalkingnotimedifference,weretalkingaboutalineardistanceofhowfarbetween
hereandReticulum.GoodGod.No.
K:HesbackatReticulumnow?
D:Yeah.FarasImaware.
K:Wow.
D:FarasImaware.
K:OK.
D:AsfarasImawareastowherehereturnedto.ThatsthebestinformationI
have.And,frankly,fromthetimethat...whenithappenedin2003theydontevenwanttodiscussthematterwithmebecauseitsarealsorepoint.IdidwhatIwasnotsupposedtodo.
K:Oh...youpushedhimthroughatimehole...
D:Ipushedhiminto...
K:...astarhole.
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D:...oneofthestargateunits,yeah,intothegraypatchbetweentheposts.Yeah.
K:Andthatwastheend...attheendofyourrelationshipwithhim?
D:Thatwastheend.ThatwasthelasttimeIsawhim.
K:Imean,wasthat...
D:Itwastheendoftheirrelationshiptoo,whichiswhytheyresopissedoff.
K:Whywereyoumotivatedtopushhiminto...
D:Heaskedmeto.Hetoldmehewantedtogohome.Hewantedtoseehisson.SoIdid.
K:Sohewasaprisoner,butatsomepointyouwereinaposition...ImthinkingthiswasinEgypt.
D:Itwas.
K:Somehowyouguyswere,weretakentoEgypt?
D:Yeah,Iwasflownthere.
K:Andsowashe.
D:Yeah,butoveradifferenttransport.Hehad...hewasalreadypresentbythetimeofmyarrival.Therewasacommunicationprotocolgoingon.Hewascommunicatingsomething.Iwasneverreallytold.AllIwastoldwasthattherewasaproblemwithhiscommunicationandtheywantedmetobetheretocausehimtorelaxorwhatever,tofacilitatethediscussion.Andsotheywantedmebasicallythereasanidolatheatri,asanidolofthetheatre.Theywantedmepresent.Theywantedmethere,asaruseofkinshipwithhim.
K:Andhadyou...
D:Andthekinshipwasnoruse.Andthatssomethingthatthattheymisinterpreted,Iguess,overtheseyears,thatIhavemoreofakinshipwithapresentdayhumanversushim.Andtome,althoughhewas,hewasoff-set,althoughheappeareddifferent,thathedidntbelong,hesstillahumanbeing,andahumanisahumanisahumantome.SoIhada...Ihadatruefriendshipwithhim.TherewastrueaffectiontherebetweenthetwobecausehewasshowingmethingsfromhischildhoodandIwasshowinghimthingsfrommineandwewereactuallyenjoyingeachothersexperienceofeachotherina...afriendship.ItwasatruefriendshipandIdontreallythinkthatMajesticeverregardeditthatway.Theyfeelthemselvessodamnsuperior,orthatweresuperiortothem.
Andmaybeitsareaction.Idontknow,maybeImrationalizingit,thatitsareactiontotheP-45sfeelingthatwereinferior...theso-calledroguesfeelingofus.Maybeitssomesortofarailingagainstthatorareactionagainstthat,thattheydevelopedtheattitude.Idontknow,butIknowthatIwasntsuperiortohimandhewasntsuperiortome...muchbrighter,butwerestilljusthumanbeings.Andjustcausesomebodyisbrighterthansomebodyelse,itdoesntmeantheyresuperior.
K:So,in...ImjusttryingtofigureoutwhyinEgypt...hewasthereandobviouslydoingsomeworkwiththem.
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D:Hewasthereaspartofacommunicationprogramthattheyhadongoingafterourprogram...well,wayafterourprogram,almostadecade,after...
K:Almosttenyearslater?
D:Well,Imean,youknow,ithadendedin96andwehadsomemorebriefingsin97butthatwasaboutit.
K:Soyouresayingthatyou...thishappenedrecently,thatyoupushedhimintothestargate?
D:Ithappenedattheendof2003and...youknow,Icouldtellfromtherelationshipwithhimthathewasbeinghonestwithme.Now,again,therehavebeenthosethathavecriticizedandsaid,Well,look,thisguyis52,000yearsalonganevolutionaryline,whichdoesnotnecessarilymakehimsmarter,butcertainlynotbetterifyoulookatthe...thepathology,but...thathehadtheability,ifhewasahumanbeing,tolie.Hm?Yep.AndwetalkedwitheachotheraboutlyingandMajesticneverknewthat.
Buthetoldmeaboutthingswhichwouldbehappeninginthefuture,inconsequential,generallyinconsequential,things.Andthenthereweresome
veryconsequentialthings.Butsomegenerallyinconsequentialthingsthathappenedsubsequent,whichtoldme,notonlywashefromthefuture,buthehadaccesstofuturematerialbecausenobodycouldhavepredictedconversations.Butthathewasbeinghonestwithmeaswell.Icouldfeelhisheart.Andthatsallwecanreallydo.Youknow,they...theyturnitintoajokeonCoasttoCoast:TheCoasttoCoastAMChallengewithBillBurnsandGeorgeNoory.Willyoustepuptotheplateandtakethispolygraphexam?Now...becausepolygraphdoesntwork.Ifapolygraphworked,wewouldntneedjuries.Wejudgeotherpeople,otherhumanbeings,bytheirhonesty,byempiricaldataandevidenceaswell,butbytheirspiritaswell.And...thespiritthatIjudgedhimbywaswhatIwasfeelingfromhim,fromhisheart,fromhismind.AndIjudgedhimbyhisrelationshipwithhischild,byhowheregardedhismother,byallofthese
thingsthatwechoosetoregard,inthehumanfamily,tomakedecisionsabouteachother.Thesamethings...Imean,thesecommonthingswerestillpresent.
K:So...
D:Therewerevery,youknow,manyuncommonaspectstotheirsocietytothenegatingofemotion,andthenegatingofpersonalnamesoutinsociety.Itwasstillbeingcarriedwithinfamilies.Therewasacommonthemetothehumanfamilywhichwasstillextantinhistime.And...IusedthataspartofmyprudentdiscernmentofhimorGod,Ihopeitwasthathewasagoodhumanbeing.
K:So,youassistedhimingoingthroughthestargate.
D:IpushedtheSegway-typetransportsetonthestroller.They,theylookedlikeBelljars,almost,overtopofSegway-typestrollerswhereyoucould...youknow,itwasalmost...almostwaistheight,wherethe,thebarwas.Wellyoucouldpushitinwhateverdirection,andittookverylittleefforttomoveit.Ah...andheaskedmetogohome.
K:Soyoupushedhimand...
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D:Idid.
K:...andwhathappenedtoyouwhenyoupushedhim?
D:Ipushedforward,thenthenextfeelingwasafeelingofnumbness.[chuckles]I...ForabriefmomentIthoughtIhadreallyscrewedupandmaybekilledmyselforwhateverbecauseIliterallyfeltnumbeverywhere.ThenIrememberaflashofgray.AndthenIwasseated,coughing,onablockabout20,30metersaway,maybe.AndIhadpeoplerushinguptome,stillover-dramaticallyactuallycockinganautomaticfirearmatme,screamingatme.AndIwasgrabbed,pickedupfromtheblockandtakenoverandsaid,youknow,Youreunderarrest.And,Imean,Ihadcommittedaviolationoftheprotocols.AndIwasbeingthreatenedwithweaponstomyheadandthingslikethat.
K:Sohowdid...
D:Whatdidhesaytoyou?And,youknow.Or,Areyouaspy?And,youknow...Theywerejustactingparanoid.No.Iwasntaspy.Ijustshovedhimintothestargateandhewentbye-bye.Andthatsessentiallywhathappened.
K:Howdidyou...howdidMajesticreactafterthat,toyou?
D:Veryangry,veryangry,includingthepeoplewithwhomImtheclosest...savetheonepresent.Veryangrytowardme.
K:Andhowdidtheyact...HowdoesMajesticactwhenitsangry?Imean,Iguessthisgetsbackto....werent...haventyoubeentortured?Imean,isntthisright?
D:Iwouldnt...IdontcallittortureasidefromthefactthatIvebeenfalselyimprisoned.Thatstorture.IwasforacoupleperiodsoftimeputatS-4in,inlevel3,andbasicallytold,Thatswhereyouarefornow.
K:Levelthreemeaning...
D:AtS-4.
K:Wasthatacell?
D:Ah,no.Itwasoneofthe,therooms,oneofthe,thesmallsuitesifyouwillwhichwereoriginallyputinthere.Theres12ofem,inthistrident.Theresthreegroupsoffour.AndIwasputintheunitone,overtotheleft.Anditwasessentially...Imean,it,youknow,containedalltheamenities.Icouldaskforfood.GoteverythingIwantedexceptIcouldntleave.Therewasnofreedom.Iconsiderthattorture.The...theothersitemsareactsofunkindness.AndactsofunkindnessfromMajesticcanrangefromeverythingfrompsychologicalunkindness-beingrudetoyou,tobeingthreatening,tobeing
physicallyharmful.AndIhavebeenbeaten.Ihavebeenslapped.Ihavebeenphysicallyrestrained,meaninghandcuffedandbeatenandslapped.Ihavebeenputunderlights.
K:Whowas...
D:Hell,Ihadfriendsdoingthattome.ButIhad,youknow,putunderintenselightsand...whilebeinghandcuffed,asininterrogated.Ihavebeentoldtoshutmymouthtothepointwheretwopeoplegrabbedme,oneshovedmedownonto
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thefloorofagarageandtheotheronestompedonandbrokemyhand.
K:So...andthesewerethemembersofMajesticthatcarriedoutthese...
D:Yes.
K:...attacks?Inotherwords,theydidnthiresomeone?
D:Yes...nottheJnumbers.NottheJnumbers.Thesewereoperatives.
K:Operatives.
D:Asinsecuritypersonnel.Yeah.
K:Isee.Sonotthe1through12,butpeoplethatworkforthem.
D:Ohno,noneofthemhavelaidanunkindhandonme,ever.Greataffection,ifanything,outofthem...
K:Buttheywereunderorders...
D:...likeonewouldshowgreataffectiontoapet.
K:These...OK[chuckles]Soyouwereviewedasapetbysomeofthem...
D:Well,Imnotsayingthat...
K:...butyouwerealsomistreatedontheirorders?
D:ImnotsayingIwasviewedasapet.ImsayingIdontknowwhats...whattheyretrulycarryingintheirhearts,intheirminds,andsothereexiststhepossibilitythataffectioncanbegrantedeitherhonestlyordisingenuously.Itcanbegranted...ah...persontopersononthesamelevel,orasanactofcondescending.
K:Well,letsbackupatinybit.
D:Well,yeah.
K:Majestic...
D:[GesturingoffcameraatMarci]ShebroughtupthenameTenet.GeorgeTenet...Oh,Ibetterwatchmymouth...
Marci:Uhhmm!ThatswhyImentionedthename.
D:...beforeIgetstartedtalkingheretoomuch.
M:Iknow.
D:GeorgeTenetwasaformerDirectorofCentralIntelligencefortheUnitedStatesofAmerica.Nowweremovingon.[laughs]
K:OK...So,butwhatyouweresayingaboutMajestichasgotmeinterested.[laughs]
D:[stilllaughing]Sorry...
K:ThatsOK.YourebasicallysayingthatMajesticisoperatingas...is
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independentofthegovernment.Isthatcorrect?
D:Yesandno.
K:Oraretheyoperatingunderthem?
D:Yesandno.Theyweresetindependentofdirectpresidentialauthorityasfarbackasthelate40s.However,theresmorethanoneindividualwhosits...whohassat...asamemberofthetwelvewhoareintimatelyinvolvedwiththeUnitedStatesgovernment,toincludeitshighestlevels.
K:OK.Andsothosepeoplewereactually...
D:OK.Itstimetoputthetapdancingshoeson.
K:[laughs]OK.Thosepeoplewereactuallyorderingyoutobe,asaresult,letssay,ofthisover...youknow,thissortofoversteppingtheline,pushingJ-Rodintothestargate,theywereorderingyoutobesequestered,tobebeaten,or...
D:Well,by...
K:...harmedinsomeway?
D:Bythetimethathappened...Allthebeatingshappenedpriortothat.Bythetimethathappenedtherewas...Basicallytheydidntknowwhattodowithme.Ittookeverybodysobysurprise...metoo[laughs]...whatIdid...Theydidntknowwhattodo,andsotheyreallydidnt.Imean,youknow,IgothauledaroundthereatthesiteforawhileandIgothauledbackheretotheUS,butIwasbasicallyafterthatjusttoldGohome.Theydidntknowwhattodo.
K:SoisthiswhyyouvebeenreleasedfromMajestic,becauseofthisincident?
D:No.No...Itwascomingneartheendofmytime,myusefulness,basically,anyway,asidefrombeingah...almostanelderstatesmenwiththem,becauseIdbeenaroundforlike20years.Myphysicalconditionhasgottenworse.Imnotwell,physically.SoIwouldnotbeofanyuseinsideofalaboratory.
K:OK,butwhyisthere...Iunderstandthattheresbeensomekindofadjournment,according...
D:Thatiscorrect.Majestic:TheNewBodyK:Andnowtheresanewbodyanditsnotgoingtobecomprisedofthesamepeopleastheoldbody?
D:True.
K:Sowhy?Whyhavetheychangedmembers?Whatsthemotivation?
D:Theresaswitchoverbetweentwosecretsocietiesgoingon.Oneishandingreinsovertotheotherandithasbeenlongplanned.However,itsnotbeenlongknownbyme.Butitsbeenlong,longplanned,probablydecades.Imcertainithastohavebeenfordecades.Thewaytheytalk.
K:SoMajesticisruledbyasecretsociety,iswhatyouresaying.
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D:Well,MajestichasbeenthemostfamousnexttoprobablytheFreemasonssecretsocietyofitself.AndtherearemanyoftheFreemasonswhoinhabittheMajestic,asaconsequenceoftheirrelationships.Thetwothingsarehappeningatthesametime.Andsotheirphilosophies,then,thephilosophiesoftheseassociatedsecretsocieties,liketheScottishRiteandYorkRite,arebeingimpartedintothesecretsocietyknownastheMajestic.
K:Sowhatsthequarrelbetween...
D:Youbringwhoyouaretowhereveryouare.Majesticvs.TheIlluminatiK:Sure.Butwhatsthequarrelbetween,say,theMajesticsocietyorgroupandtheIlluminati?
D:Thatisarealgood,anditsthebestquestiontobeasked,evenmoreimportantlythanthedifferencesbetweentheJ-Rods,becausethisimpactsus,Ithink,now.
Manymembersoftheupperechelon...andIdontmeanthehardworkingpeoplewhoworkonconstructionsites,forGodssakes...ManypeoplewhoareintheupperechelonoftheMasonicmovement,bothYorkandScottishrite,haveacceptedaphilosophywhichisLuciferianincontextandhistory.Manyofthepeoplewhoarenotdirectly,then,involvedwiththeMajestic,whoarealsoassociatedwith
thatLuciferianphilosophy,haverubbedupagainsteachotherfordecades,probablyevenlonger.SosomewherealongthelineinhistorytherewasaschismbetweenthoseindividualswhohaveacceptedtheLuciferianhistory,theLuciferianphilosophy,mixedwithothersecretsocietypeoplewhohavenot,andendedupintheMajestic...andpeoplewhohaveacceptedaLuciferian...almostlikeadifferent,ah...denomination?ifyouwill...acceptedaLuciferianphilosophywhoarenotassociatedwiththeMajestic.Inotherwords,wevegotdirtycoinsonbothsides.
K:OK.AndwhenyousayaLuciferianphilosophy...
D:Now...meaningamaterialistic,and,forlackofabettertermwhenitcomestotheactualEuropeanIlluminati,satanic,philosophy,wheretheyhavegiventheirlives,theirfamilies,theirsacredhonor,tothissatanicthoughtofcreatingaworldorderunderthepersonthattheyconsiderthetrueGod,whichwouldbeaLuciferianfigure.Now,thesepeoplehavealso(separatingthemfromthedirtycoinsintheMajesticside)...thesepeoplehavealsobeenacceptingoftheinfluenceoftheP-45rogues,whowanttojustifytheirownhistorybyourdemise,movingfromTimeline1overtoTimeline2,acatastrophe.Andso,thedifferencesbetweentheMajesticgroup,someofwhichtherehavebeentheseLuciferiansmixedinandthetrueIlluminatigroup....TheyrenotevenreallytrueIlluminati.Imean,thatsawordthatcomesbackmeaningEnlightenedOnes,andthesepeoplearenotenlightened.Theyaresimplyundertheinfluenceofafalselight.Thatthedifferencesbetweenthetwo,then,haveraiseditself
torancoreventhoughtheysharemuchincommonwitheachother.However,ontheMajesticsideyouhavealotofGod-fearingpeople,too.Alot.AndImnottalkingaboutspecificallyherethetwelve.Imtalkingaboutthelinepeople,thepeoplethatweveworkedwith.Goodpeople.Goodpeopletothebone,tothesoulwho,whowantnothingbut,butgoodfortheworld.
K:Sobasicallywhatyouretalkingaboutisthereseemstobeanalliancebetween,forlackofabetterword,theso-calledIlluminatigroupthathas
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satanicfollowers...
D:Uhhuh.
K:...andtheP-45s,whatyoucalltheP-45s...
D:Uhhuh.
K:...andtheMajesticgroup,which,eventhoughithassomemembersfromtheIlluminati,basicallyissidingwiththeP-52s...
D:Yeah.Iwouldntreallycallthemsome.IwouldsaythattheyareFreemasonswhohaveacceptedtheLuciferianinfluence.Inotherwords,theymaypersonallydisagreewithit,theLuciferianinfluence,butarestillactingasgoodpeople.
K:Forthebenefitofhumanity.
D:Forthebenefitofhumanity.Exactly.AndthentherearesomethatIhaveinteractedwithwhoareinvolvedwiththeso-calledtrueIlluminatiinEurope,thatareGod-fearingpeopletoo.Theresdirtycoinsandtherespolishedcoinsonbothsides.However...however,thedirtycoinsmakeupthevastmajorityofthegroupontheEuropeanIlluminatiside.
2012:TwoTimelines
K:OK.So,whatis...Nowletsgettothetimelinesandexplainjustbriefly,sincethisgetsoverintothefutureand2012,whattheP-45s,meaningtheyarefromthefuture45,000yearsaheadofus...
D:45,000yearsaheadonaseparatetimelinetowhatwearepresentlyon,butatimelinethatwecouldtransitionovertofromwherewearenow.So,ifwearetoacceptthatwetransition,Godforbid,fromTimeline1toTimeline2,theywouldbeconsidered45,000yearsand52,000years,respectively,aheadofus.RoswellTheindividualswhodumpednearRoswell,NewMexicobackinthe40swereapproximately24,000yearsaheadofusinTimeline2.Andthatwasamission
return,anEarthtoEarth,timetravelmission.
K:WereonTimeline1now,Imassumingyouresaying?
D:Yeah.
K:Andwereheadedfor2012andtheoreticallyacatastrophethatmayormaynothappen.
D:Rightaroundnow.
K:Rightaroundnow?
D:[laughs]Yeah.PlanetXand2012K:Andthiscatastrophe,hasitgotanythingtodowithPlanetX?
D:[longpause]Idontknow.ThereisthemosthonestanswerIcanprovideyou.Iknowalotofloreaboutarogueplanetcomingin.However,thematerialthatIveactuallyseen...Onarepetitive,ah...crossing,ifyouwill,ofEarthwithcatastrophicinfluences,happensnotonlybecauseofamatterofphysicsah,rogueandIdontmeanthistowardlikeJ-RodroguebutroguecrossingoftheEarth...asteroidsorcomets.)
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WhatIhaveheardisthattoprecipitatethecatastrophe,therewouldbe,aswepassintotheplaneoftheMilkyWay,somesortofenergeticburstthroughtheplaneofthegalaxybyvirtueofwormholesthataretraveling...thattravelthroughtheplaneofthegalaxyfromthecenterofthegalaxy,whichhavebeendepictedinancientlore...calledtheSerpentRope...eventheancients...andthattheSerpentRopewouldreturnatthetimeoftheendoftheMayancalendar,revealing...andthereareseveralperspectivesastowhatitwillreveal.Butthatduringthissametime,thehistoryoftheJ-RodsrecordthatthisburstwillcauseadisruptionintheSunandthat,concomitantlywithenergeticburstsfromtheSunandfromthewormholeswhichwouldbepassingthroughourplanet,thattherewouldbeadisasterprovokedbyvirtueofthesetimetraveldevices(theStargatedevices)andthetimeviewingdevices(theLookingGlassdevices)spontaneouslyturningonanddirectinganinappropriateamountofenergyintothecrustoftheEarth,precipitatingageophysicaldisaster.Thisgeophysicaldisaster,inaccordancewiththehistoryoftheJ-RodsandOrions,recordthatover4billion,157milliondieoveraseveralyearperiodbyvirtuetothegeophysicalshiftinthecrust.
K:So,thisiswhat...
D:Icant...
K:istrying
D:IgetnumbwhenIthinkaboutthenumbers.
K:...istryingtobeprevented?
D:Yes.
K:Isthisright?
D:Yes.Verytrue.
K:Andhowisitgoingtobeprevented?
D:Bythedisablingandthedestructionofsuchtechnology.Thatwewillnaturally,then,passthroughthisSerpentRopes.Theburstswilloccur,whateverthatmeans.Ihaventphysicallyseenit.Buttheburstswilloccurandtherewouldbeanimpartingofenergytoourplanetthatwill,gradually,naturally,causechangesinthehumanspeciesandthelifeofourplanet.Andthatthesechangeswouldbepositivechangesforourpeople.AndI...Ifranklythinkthatitsalreadyhappening.Theresarise,worldwide,in...AndIdontthinkitsjustagivensizeinthepopulationincrease.Butthereisariseinveryspiritual,talentedpeople.Thereisariseinsavants,theIndigochildren.Itsa...definitely,fromwhatIveseenfromreadingaboutthem...arealphenomenon.ThesechildrenareofanewtypeandIthinktheyareofthe
Timeline1type.Wereseeing,Ithinkinthesechildren,thesegreatkids,anexpressionofwhatwewillbeinourownfuture,ournextkindofstepahead.Werenotlookingmillionsofyearsaheadoranythinglikethat,butournextstepahead.AnditsawonderfulriseinconsciousnessthatIthinkwillprecipitatethenextrenaissanceforourpeople.Iseeithappening.LookingGlassThenumbersthatwereceivedbeforeLookingGlasswasshutdown,disbanded,wasthattherewouldbea19%probabilitywithan85%confidence,thatthedisasterwouldoccur,thattherewouldbeatransitionfromTimeline1toTimeline2.But,thatthenmeansthattheresan81%chancethatitwont.Andso,the
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individualswhowanttocarrythe,thenegativeline,areconvincedthatitsgoingtooccur,arenotpresentingthefacts.Thefactsare:thisisthematerialthatwehaveavailablethatweknow.
K:So,whatyouresayingistheIlluminati...togetbacktothatthread...
D:Yes.
K:...isbasicallythesidethatbelievesthatthetransitionsgonnaoccurfromonetimelinetotheother.
D:Notonlydotheybelieveitwilloccur,theywanttoprovokeit.
K:Butwhat...buthowdoesitbenefitthemto,toprovokeit?WhyshouldtheywanttobeP45s?
D:Theydont.Thelivingonesdont.TheyrelookingattheP-45sas,asameanstoanendforthem.Theyrenotgonnalivethatlong.Theyrejustgonnaliveanormalhumanlifeanddie,sotheywantthecontrolforthemselves.ThefactthattheP-45s...thatshowimmoralthesepeopleare.ThefactthattheP-45sarewantingus,to,attheirstageintheirowndevelopment,haveadisasterwhich,whichjustifiestheirownhistory,isbeingusedasameanstoanendbytheIlluminatiwhowouldliketoseethatthepopulationisculledsothattheycangaingreatercontrol.Theydontcare.
K:So,OK.So,what...
D:Theyjustwantforthemselves.Therearereallyhumanbeingsthatdontcare,orthatcareverylittle.
K:SowhatyouresayingistheIlluminatiwantthecatastrophetooccur...
D:Yes.
K:...sothatacertainnumber...three-quartersisthenumberIveheard...ofhumanitydies.TheygettheEarthtothemselves...
D:Well,thehistoryreadsaboutalittleovertwo-thirds.
K:OK.Two-thirds.
D:ThatswhatthehistoryoftheJ-Rodsactuallyreads.
K:Allright.Two-thirds.Andthenwhat?Imean,theystillhavetolivethroughEarthchangesandcataclysms,right?
D:Right.Butthesepeoplearealsotheoneswhohavetheirguaranteedpositionsinthesafetyzones...undergroundfacilities,etcetera.Andsotheyare
presumed...itisnotknownforcertain,buttheyarepresumedtohaveactuallybeenbetheprogenitorsifyouwill,ofthepeoplewhobecometheJ-Rods.
K:Iunderstand.Butinasense...thereisathoughtthatinasensetheP-45s,thatsideofhumanity,is...possiblybecomesalmostsoul-less.
D:Theybecomerepressed.Theystillhavetheirsamesouls,becauseevenafter7,000moreyearsofdevelopment,Icouldseethesoul,asyouseetheheartofanotherhumanbeing...IcouldseethesoulinChielah.So,itdidntleave
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andthencomeback...
K:ButChielahwasnotaP-45.
D:No.HewasaP-52,butthatjustmeansthathewas7,000yearsalongtheT2timelinefromwhentheP-45s...
K:Soheusedtobe...
D:...wereinexistence.
K:...or,hispeopleusedtobe,aP-45.
D:Yes.
K:AndaP-46,47,48.
D:Yes.Yes...yes.
K:OK.
D:Sothesouldidntgoawayandthencomeback.Itsbeenthere.Butthen...youknowwhat.Look.Youcansaythatsomepeoplearesoul-less.
K:Uhhuh.
D:TheNazis.Howmuchsouldidtheyhavewhentheythrewmygrandpaontoacar?Howmuchsouldidtheyhave?Weknowthattheyhadahumansoul,asblackasapparentlywhatitwasorascoveredoverintheirdementedbrainsbutIstillprayforthemthattheyve...eventhem...thattheyvebeenmadewholewithGod.Buttheystillhadtheirsoulseventhoughitwasrepressed.
K:So...
D:Inlikemanner,theP-45shaveasoul.
K:OK.Wellthenwhat...OK.YouvetalkedabouttheP-52OrionsandtheP-52
J-Rods.AmIright?
D:Uhhuh.NordicsfromOrionK:OK.Whatcausesthesplit?BecausetheOrions,Imthinking,aretheblondNordics.
D:Theyaretheonesthatprefertostayoutofthesafetyzoneswhenithappens.Theyarethesurvivorswhodonotgounderground.
K:Arethesegood...isthisagooddivisionofhumanity?Imean,theP-52OrionNordic?
D:Idontconsideranydivisionofhumanitygood.IconsiderthemthemorepositiveofthetwobecauseIconsiderthepositiveaspectsofhumanitytobethespiritualaspects.
K:SoyouresayingtheNordiclineisspiritual.
D:Yeah.
K:Wasspiritual.
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D:Extremely.Yeah.
K:OK.SohowdoestheNordicline...Imean,yousaytheystayout...
D:TheyactuallymoveofffromEarthfirst.TheJ-Rods,ortheprecursorstotheJ-Rods,stayonEarthforagreatdealoftime,wellafter24,000yearsfromthetimeofthetransition,24,000yearsfromnow.Becausetheywere24-or-so-thousandyearsaheadofuswhentheycrashedinRoswellin1947.Thosewere24s.Theystay.TheOrionsmoveofffirsttotheplace...afterthereestablishmentofasocietyonthesurfaceoftheEarth...technologyisrefurbished,etcetera....theymoveofftotheplacewheretheArkisheld.TheArkontheMoonK:Whichiswhere?
D:Ournearestbody,theMoon.
K:TheMoon.
D:Whereonit,Imnotgoingtosay.
K:OK.Well,thisgetsinto...
D:BecauseofhavingtodefendagainstthepossibilityofTimeline1transitioningovertoTimeline2inamannerdifferentthanIvebeentold.AndImnotgoingtobethepersonwhohandsoffthewronginformation.
K:So...OK,butyouresayingtheNordicsaregoingtogetoffEarthifthecatastrophehappens.Orregardless.
D:Theyleaveafter.
K:Afterthecatastrophehappens.
D:Presumablyseveralthousandyearsafterithappens,theyleave.
K:Severalthousandyears.
D:Yes,theymovetotheMoon.
K:Oh.Iwasgettingtheimpressionyouweretalkingaboutthemgoingonspaceshipsorsomething.
D[shakingheadno]Notreally.No.TheymoveofftotheMoonseveralthousandyears,viaspacecraft.TheygettotheplacewheretheArkwasheldandthattheyre-establishanewcommunity.FromtheretheymovetoMars.FromMars,outtoOrion.
K:Sothey...
D:Weretalkingalotoftimehere.TheFaceonMarsK:ThefaceonMars...isthis...ArewelookingatsomethingthatwasleftbehindbytheNordics?
D:Uhhuh.
K:Sowerelooking...
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D:AsbestasIknow.
K:...werelookingforwardtoourfuturewhen...
D:Werelookingataparadox.
K:...whenwerelookingattheruins.
D:Yeah.Werelookingataparadoxoftheirruins,whichtheyleftonanotherplanet.
K:Inthe...inourfuture.
D:Inourfuture.
K:Inourpossiblefuture.
D:Yep.
K:OK,well,tocomeback...
D:[pointingatKerry]ShesactuallygotthebestcommandofthisinformationofanyoneinthepublicwithwhomIvespoken.
Marci:Iknow.
K:[laughs]Thankyou.Thatsaverysweetthingtosay.
D:Itshonest.
K:Thankyou.Wevegota...Imgettinganotherquestionherefromoursmallaudience,andImustsaythatBillRyan...
D:BillRyanoftheOrions?[laughs]
K:BillRyanisalsosittingwithmeand,andlisteningtothisamazing
informationandaskingsomegoodquestions.
Bill:WhenwerelookingatMars,arewelookingintothefuture?
D:Nowthequestionisthis...
B:Ijustdontunderstandthat.
D:Thequestionof...ofthedayisthatwhatisgoingtohappen?Whatisgoingtohappenwhenthe...whenthetransitionoccursandweeithercontinueon1or,Godforbid,number2,happens?Ifnumber2happenswerenotgoingtobeworriedaboutMars.Wewillhavemuchmoreimportantthingstoworryaboutatthat
moment.
Letssay,Godwilling,andIthinkwewill,remainonTimeline1...whatsgoingtohappenwithourimageryofMars?Ithinkthatwewillprobablyremembertakingimagesoftheseanomalousstructures.Andtherehavebeensomeanomalousstructuresimagedonthemoonaswell.Ithinkwereprobablygoingtorememberthat.AtleastIthinkso.Ifwedont,itsnotgoingtomatter,now,isit?
K:Sowhatyouresayingisweregonnagobacktotheideathatwenever...
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thatthereareno...isnofaceonMars.TheScorpionD:OrtherewillbeafaceonMarsanditwillbepresentedtousatthatmomentassomethingdifferent.Maybethebrickswillturntorocksandwewillgetthereandfindoutthatallthesebeautifulruins,includingthe,theScorpion.Youdontthinkitsascorpion,tellmewhatitis,OK?IllshowyoutheimagesfromStarCity.Onthetopofthispyramid.Ifitsnotascorpion,tellmewhatitis.But,perhapsweregoingtogetthereandweregoingtofindoutthatallofthispresumedarchitecturethatweareseeingbyvirtueofthegeometrythatweareattemptingtoapplytotheseimages,isnothingmorethanrocks,thatweveneverbeenthere.Because,atthatmoment,becausewehadnottransitedovertoTimeline2,thatwehavenevervisitedthereuntilwefinallyputmanonMars.
B:Buttheresaprofoundparadoxhere...
K:OK.
B:...because...
D:Thereis.
B:...becausewhatIhearyousayingisthatwerelookingthroughtelescopes,
wherewerereceivinglightinpresenttime,withafewminutesdifference...
D:Afewminutes.
B:...thatsbeingreflectedoffobjectsonthesurfaceofMars,thatwereactuallylookingatapossiblefuture.
D:Thatsright.
B:Idontunderstand.
NewtonianSuperimposing...
D:Thereareimpactsintoourtimelinenowwhichhaveoccurred.ThisistheinformationthatIreceivednotonlyfromChielah,butalsofromthematerialwithinMajestic.Thereareimpactsintoourrealitynow,ourtimelinenow,byvirtueoftheamountoftimetravelwhichhasoccurred.Everytimetheyhavegonebackintime,theyhavecausedsmallparadoxeswhichhavebuiltupasourrealitythatwenowperceive.Inotherwords,thereisactualNewtoniansuperimposing.Andthatisafrighteningthingtome.
K:So,itsalmostlikeputtingmoneyinthebank,though,everytimetheycome,fromtheP-45,inasense.Theirtimeline...
D:Ilookatitmoreascreatingalargerheapofmanure.[laughs]
K:Well,OK.[laughs]Emphasisappreciated.However,nonetheless,itislikeadeposittowardstheactualoccurrencehappening.It...Imean...
D:Idontknow.
K:...theyareagentsofchange,inasense.
D:Theyareagentsofchangeasallhumanbeingsareagentsofchange.ButIdontknowwhetherthereisacauseeffect,whetherthereisanexusbetweencauseandeffect,havingtodowiththeiramountoftimetravelandthe
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superimpositionwhichisgoingoninourreality,andthedisasteritself.Ithinkthatthedisasteritself,fromeverythingthatIvereadandheard,isadirect,ah...consequenceofthetechnologicalaspectofbringingtoomuchenergytowardus,inanon-naturalmanner.
K:OK.Wellbasicallyyouresayingtherestwotimelines.Imean,Imsureyoureawareoftheworkofphysicistsnowthataresaying,Look,ifyoucanhavetwotimelines,youcanhavetwomillion.
D:Well,dontwereallyhavethree?Orfour.Imdiscussing24,000s.Imdiscussing45,000s,52,000sandpresentday.Howmanytimelinesarethat?Becausethesepeoplemovedaheadlinearlyintheirtimeline.JustbecausewewanttocallitTimeline2doesntmeanthatthereareothereffectsorsuperimposingswhichareoccurringondifferentrealitiesduringeventheirowntimelines.Wedontknow.
K:Exactly.ImeantheresasenseinwhichwhatyouaretalkingaboutisnotsomuchthattheP-45s,forexample,Timeline1exists,asitwillactuallyseparatefromourrealityandbecomemorelikeaparallelrealityinsteadofanintersectingone.
D:FromwhatIunderstand,thepeoplewhoarejustprior,whichwouldbeusaccordingtotheirhistory,tothepeoplewhowerejustafter,existasastraightvectoroftime.Soinotherwords,Godforbidthecatastropheoccur,it
willjustappearastomorrowandacatastropheoccurs,etcetera,etcetera,andwemoveforwardandchangesstartoccurringintheEarth,thereisadisaster,thereisalossof,ofhugelife,etcetera.Youwontprobablyfeelanythingchangeasidefromthefactthatwellallberunningscaredforourlives.AsidefromthatIhavenoexplanation.
K:OK.Youresayingthatifthecatastropheoccurs.
D:Yeah.
K:Butifitdoesntoccur,theresstilltheelementinwhichwehavebeenvisitedby,byatimelinewhichreallydoesexistinasense...
D:I...I...
K:...andhowdoyouunmakesomethingwhichhasbeenmade?[Danshakingheadno]Thatskindof...Imean,itskindofmoreofaphilosophicalquestion...
D:Idontknow,andallIcandoisdefertothecreatoronthat...
K:OK.
D:...issuebecauseallwedoisperturb...
K:Whathastoldyouthatthisistrue?
D:Alloftheabove.
K:OK.
D:Itsalloftheabove,plusinformationdirectlyfromMajestic.LookingGlassTechnologyK:WhyisMajesticinaplacetoknowthatthisactuallyhappensordoesnthappen?Inotherwords,youvegottheLookingGlasstechnologythattheyused,
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andyouused.And,youwereinstrumental...
D:No,Ididntuseit,personally.
K:...indiscovering?Wereyouin...No?
D:No.Oh,nononono.Thisisanoriginaltechnologywhichwasderivedfromancientcylinderseals,bypeoplefromourfuturewhoprovidedittous,meaningtherogues,theP-45s.
K:OK.Thepeoplewho...
D:Wewouldnthave...
K:...arenegative.
D:Thatsright.Wewouldnthavethislovelytechnologyifitwasntplantedinourpastforustousenow.Theentiretyofthetechnologymusteitherbedisabledordestroyed.
K:Inotherwords,tounmakethetechnology.
D:Untilatleast...
K:Sothat...
D:...afterwepassthroughthistimeperiod.Thereisnoway.Fromthedeceit,theconceit,theavarice,andthegreedthatIhavebeenaroundoverthelasttwentyyears...sothatsthegoodsideofthesetwodirtycoins.Thereisnowaythattheyrenotgonnastartthisequipmentbackupagainifitsusableafterthis.Ofcoursetheyregoingto.Comeon.Imean,theyvegotthis...itslikeamagicbox...totrytoseeintothefuture.Whattheyregoingtodointhefuturewithregardtothat,Ivegotnoclue.IhavenopoweroveritandIhavenoclue.
K:OK.SothisLookingGlasstechnologycomesfromcylinderseals.
D:Originally,yes.
K:How?
D:Originallyitwasaseriesofinstructionsforaccessingthewormholes,whichnaturallypassinthehyperspaceinwhichwefindourselves.Andfromtheretheyworkedonthetechnology,theybuilttheequipmentfromtheinstructions.Afterbuildingtheequipmentfromtheinstructions,theybegantotweakitandfinddifferentthingsoutaboutit.Oneofthethingsthattheyfoundisthattheycouldactuallyuseitasapeeringportal,likeapeeringglass,ifyouwill,to
seedifferentaspectsof,notonlythefuture,butthepast.
K:AretheseSumerian...ah,Sumerian...
D:IwouldsaythattheyslightlypredateSumeriantimeframebutthatsomeoftheinformationwhichcamedownfromcylindersealsthatslightlypredatedtheSumeriantimeframewerethenrecopiedinSumeriansealsaswell,and...
K:AndEgyptian?
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D:...thosecylinderseals...Ohyes.Andthosecylinderseals,tothebestofmyknowledge,haveallbeenobtained.
K:FromIraq.
D:SomeofthemfromIraq.Yes.
K:SomeofthemfromEgypt?
D:Someofthemfromother...SomeofthemfromEgypt.Someofthemfromothercountrieswheretheywerebeingstored.
K:And...
D:AndIreallydontwanttogetmycountryintotoomanyproblemshere.[laughing]
K:And,andyougot...
Marci:Ifwecouldstopforasecond...
K:Goahead.
M:Iwanttoreiterate.TherogueP-45sjumpedback,seededthetechnologybecause...
D:[nodsheadyes]Uhhuh.
M:...thatswhattheywantedtodo,wastoseedthelandtohelpfacilitatethecatastrophe.Becausebyplacingthetechnologyavailabletheyknewthat...itwouldbeutilized.Andaslongasweaspeople...OhmyGod.[cameraturnstoMarci].But,theywantedtogoback...
D:Ohplease,tapeher!
M:...andseedthetechnologybecausetheyfeltthat,aspeople,wewouldbe
unabletobreakourselvesawayfromusingthattechnology.
K:Howisitthatthistechnologyisbeingutilizednow?Andisnt...ifyouretalkingaboutawormhole,isntitthesamethingasastargate?
D:Essentially,yes.Thetechnologyisnotbeingutilizednow.Anywherewefindit,wetakeit.
K:Whoswe?
D:Ah...
K:Becauseyouhavewarringfactions.
D:We...
K:YouvegottheIlluminationtheonehand,youvegottheMajesticonanother.
D:Yep.Weisthe...weistheUnitedStatesaspartoftheUN.Youknow...IdontreallywanttocommenttoomuchaboutNATOandwhoscontrollingtheNATOallianceatthispoint.But....
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K:IsntitafactthattheIlluminati....
D:Weredoingmostofthelionsshare.
K:...wouldbestealingbackthisLooking...?Imean,iftheywantittohappen,they...Theirobjectivewouldbetostealthesecylindersandgetthem...
D:[noddingheadyes]Yes.
K:...sothattheycouldusetheLookingGlasstechnology.
D:Yes.Buttheycantshowupasanaggressortostealanythingbacksowhattheydoistheyvoteagainstus.
K:Howdoesthatstop...
D:Well,itplaysout...
K:...thetechnology?
D:ItplaysoutintheUN.Well,wehadLookingGlasstechnology,andportal,actualstargatetechnology,inIraq,aslateasthestartof2003.Andalotofcountriesdontwantus...didntwantustoenterIraq.Wedid,though,didnt
we?
K:Right.Buthowisitthat...Inotherwords,if...
D:Moammarjusthandedhistwoover.Wejusttoldhimthatweweregoingtomakehimrichbeyondavarice.AndhewasalittlesmarterthanSaddam,thatsall.Andsowhathedidishehandedthemoverandsays,Oh,please,comeintomycountry.Hesays,LookatmyequipmenttomakesurethatImnotmakinganyweaponsofmassdestruction.Meanwhile,outthebackdoorgoesthetwothatSaddamactuallyhadtransferredovertohim.
K:Cylinders?
D:Well,equipment,stargate...
K:Stargate.
D:...activating...
K:Portals.
D:...technology.Yeah.Forthemtoexperimentwith.Theywereexperimenting.
K:ButiftheLookingGlasstechnologyisthesamethingas...itaccessesawormhole...Thetechnology...
D:Itactually...
K:...itaccessesawormhole.
D:...doesthat.Yes.
K:Italsoaccessesstargates.
D:Well,thatsessentiallythesamething.Ivebeenusingthetermstargate
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technology...
K:Stargatesoccur...
D:...tomeanamachinethataccessesawormholebyspreadingouttheenergy,thestrangematterorwhateveritis...andImnotaphysicist...thatspreadsitoutinacompatiblewaytoeithercommunicatethroughit...orpassageofinformation.Thatincludesalso...
K:But,itoccurs...
D:...physicalbodies.
K:...itoccursnaturally.Stargatesoccurnaturally.
D:Indeedtheydo.
K:Sohowdoyouclosethose?
D:Youdont.Andwedontwantto.Wedontwantto.Thehistoryreadsthatthenaturalpassageofusthroughthisenergeticspaceisagoodthing.Butitsouruseoftechnologywhichprovokesthecatastrophe.
K:Soits...
D:Itsourenhancementofthisnaturalsystem,inappropriateenhancement,whichprovokesthecatastrophe.Andso,no,wedontwantthattohappen.Ithinkthattheenergeticsthatwerepassingthroughispartofwhatshappeningtousnaturally,thatschangingusinapositiveway.Itspartofthelovingcosmosthatwerepartof.Ithinkthatsprobablyoneofthefactors,notall,butoneofthefactorsfortheriseofthesebeautifulchildren,theIndigochildren.And,andImallforit.Imallforit.
K:Sowewanttoleavethestargates,thenaturalstargates.Theyreleavingthosealone.
D:Right.Wewanttokeepourhandsoffofnature.Pullourhandsaway.Getit
awayfromthefruitofthetreeoflife,sotospeak...getitaway,andjustletnaturehappenduringthistime.Thatwillbeagoodthing.However,wealsohavepeoplewhoopposethatbecausetheywantwhattheywantwhentheywantit.
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