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Psychosis Experiences of new perceptions, meanings, and

interpretations outside of “reason” or mundane cultural norms, about matters of deep importance, that seem to make things worse

Spirituality (at least when it is positive) The same thing as above,

only it happens in a way that seems to make things better

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Bipolar Disorder involves radical emotional changes and mood swings, from

extended episodes of feeling abnormally euphoric, optimistic, and energetic to periods of feeling sad, hopeless, guilty, and sometimes suicidal.

Periods of Spiritual Crisis and Transformation can involve those same dynamics Spiritual experiences typically appear special in their

degree of profundity and meaning for the individual, and seem to go beyond mundane consensual reality

(Jackson 2001) The “going beyond” can seem positive or negative, and can

alternate

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Once a person is diagnosed Their unusual experience is seen as definitely

“illness” or “disorder” The notion of any positive value to it, any spiritual

or transformative potential, is usually dismissed

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Can label as pathology something that might be a movement toward cultural or spiritual innovation

Ignores the possibility that the culture itself may in some sense be “mad” or destructive And that innovations may be necessary to correct it

Even innovations that may be disturbing at least at first

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1. Construct system breaks down Common cause of that: trying to solve a

problem not solvable within existing constructs

2. Temporary suspension of constructs Encounter with the “transliminal”

3. Construct restructuring

If done under high stress etc., errors are more likely, leading to getting attached to defective constructs, and/or back into…..

If done under low stress etc., more likely to result in new vision that enriches the person & possibly the culture!

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Distinction is mostly related to: Context in which they occur Manner in which they are approached Ability to integrate them into everyday life

Grof, 1985, as cited in Watkins, 2008

Note that it is not just the person, but the attitudes and behavior of those close to them, that determine whether or not the conditions exist for anomalous experiences to promote growth

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Make it more scary by defining experiences as definitely part of a

terrible illness

Don’t teach the person relevant skills Often isolate the person Focus on trying to stop the process Often stimulate a “psychic civil war” If discussion of spirituality is allowed at all, it

is seen as secondary to the illness model

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Recognize both the risks and possible benefits of anomalous experiences and perspectives

Are open to different ways of talking about these experiences

Acknowledge the normality of going out of our minds

Teach relevant skills Focus on opportunities for connection, shared

meaning, compassion Are open to the idea that the overall process

may be transformative That is, it may eventually lead to a better life for the

person and may also benefit others

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Madness itself often involves contesting all kinds of conventional meaning And discovering new sources of meaning

Which may then be contested by self and/or others

Spirituality involves the discovery of profound meanings But whether such discoveries are “correct” or

themselves bad or mad, may be highly contested Wars are fought over what approach to spirituality is correct

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“There are known knowns; there are things we know we know.We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know.But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don’t know we don’t know.” —Former United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you think you know that just ain't so“ – Josh Billings

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All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in

some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense From THE PRINCIPIA DISCORDIA

“Wherein Is Explained Absolutely Everything Worth Knowing About Absolutely Anything”

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Unusual experiences can be seen on a continuum from definitely helpful or “spiritual” To definitely problematical

Relationships between experiences and people’s lives can be complex “hellish” experiences might lead to later

breakthroughs

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“Madness” was more a matter of not having the right relationship with spirits or the spiritual

But being in a spontaneous altered state, even if out of control and floundering, might mean the presence of spiritual ability and gifts If nurtured correctly

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“Madness” seen by dogmatic religion as resulting from spiritual wrong or offense against God:

Risk is that person will be rejected or punished by society

“Madness” seen as not spiritual at all, just a medical problem:

Risk is that the meaning of the person’s experience will be ignored & excess medical treatment may occur

Complex view: Those apparently “mad” may have both biological and spiritual differences,

and may have spiritual insights to offer, especially once any mistakes are overcome

The Pendulum Swings, from religious to medical…..

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Neither medical nor psychological professionals could then claim full “expertise” in the area of psychosis Fear that absence of “expertise” could mean loss of

status

Also, lack of understanding how to address spiritual issues within a mental health role Or how to address issues generally in a non-dogmatic

way

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Many experiences that contradict religious teachings or dogma might then be seen as at least partly spiritual and possibly valid

Religious leaders who don’t know how to help people with “psychotic” experiences might then be seen as lacking spiritual competence

If psychotic experiences are seen as partly spiritual, people may then question whether accepted religious practices may be at least somewhat psychotic

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May be excess blame to the person Problems framed as “sin”

Mysterious entities may be blamed Believing the problem is a “demon” may not be helpful

Possibly useful mental health ways of framing the problem, and mental health treatments, may be discouraged For example, people may be encouraged to

discontinue medication when they are not ready to do so

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Helpful in communication to use a person’s own language and metaphors

Spiritual concepts are often less stigmatizing Spiritual seeking is often a key part of the human

response to trauma A spiritual focus encourages professional humility Willingness to discuss spirituality leads to better

relationships Spirituality is proven valuable in recovery

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Disapproval of staff expressing interest in spirituality from other staff

Staff find peoples’ religious concerns hard to handle.

People on the ward are afraid to talk about spirituality because it is regarded as a symptom.

Staff who try to convert service users to their “religion”: other staff do not feel confident to tackle this abuse of

vulnerable individuals.

Slide by Isabel Clarke

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Between A spiritual experience with some mental

and emotional difficulties A mental disorder or psychosis with some

preoccupation with spiritual issues

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Within science, psychosis is best understood from a whole systems, or complexity point of view

Spiritual language and metaphors can be understood as another way of trying to talk about the nature and dynamics of whole systems Self organization, emergence, critical states, etc. And about the unknown, and one’s relationship to it

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Religiosity: seeing possible spiritual expressions or metaphors as being literally & concretely true.

Voices and other mental phenomena are seen as physically real.

Stuck in the Mundane: possible spiritual expressions or metaphors are seen as either untrue or of no importance.

Voices & other mental phenomena are seen as either irrelevant or sick.

Awareness of different types of existence and reality:

Voices and other inner phenomena are seen as that, and are given neither excess nor inadequate significance. Metaphors are seen as metaphors, etc.

Finding a balance with metaphorical expressions

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Instead of focus on the way the words don’t make sense, or are unscientific Look for ways to understand them that would make

some sense As metaphor, or touching on a meaningful psychological

process

Then experiment with speaking about them that way & see what happens

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If we recognize that all maps, concepts etc. are only partially helpful & accurate Then we can listen to and respect those who see &

describe things differently than we do

When we respect both our own views & that of others We model for our clients how to do the same

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I am God –

Grandiose, can’t relate well to others because they aren’t equal to me.

I am completely other than God:

I am a weak suffering being of little value, I don’t have enough sense of my value to relate well to others.

I am not God in some sense, but also I am God or at least close to God in some sense:

I can experience both oneness with the Divine in some sense and human humility, I can relate to others.

Balancing identifying with, and distancing from, Divinity

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To be mad is to be “disturbed, and/or to be disturbing to others” But if we find those who are mad to be “disturbing”

doesn’t that imply we are “disturbed?” Perhaps unnecessarily?

And if those who are mad are “disturbed” isn’t it possible that it is we who have played some part in “disturbing” them?

Recognizing such possibilities is part of developing a healthy professional humility

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Happens when: People feel blamed & guilty because a recommended

religious approach didn’t cure an emotional problem People are taught they have to be exactly a certain way to

be acceptable – feeds perfectionism, rigidity Religion is used to justify, or to give power to people who

practice, emotional, physical & or sexual abuse Teachings leave people feeling more stuck, guilty, afraid of

concepts like hell or Satan Dependency is created, make people fear making their

own decisions People become isolated in religious communities, then

fear losing all support if they turn against the teachings

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“Client” is a young person having difficulties for the last 8 months that have been labeled schizoaffective disorder, Is asking therapist’s opinion:

is this really a mental health problem? or is it really a spiritual revelation like the voices say that it is,

and as it sometimes seems to be to the person themselves?

Client: Really try to challenge the therapist to provide a “clear answer”! And maybe ask the therapist about his or her own beliefs

about spirituality and what is spiritually possible

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Moving from monolog to dialog Jung’s “archetypal amplification” is one possible

method

Rather than suppress “mad” views Help person experiment with a variety of perspectives Goal is to induce cognitive flexibility

This may be possible even working within a dogmatic religious frame

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Overly vulnerable after trauma:

I cannot rely on anything to keep me safe. Previous knowledge has been shown to be inadequate. I am in permanent crisis.

Overly reliant special beliefs after trauma:

Through my new spiritual/magical method, I can now be invulnerable to the kinds of threat that happened before.

Uncertain yet finding spiritual safety in uncertainty:

I cannot rely on any “thing” to keep me safe. But I can trust the process of doing my best, then letting go in each moment.

Possible relationships between trauma and spirituality

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Conflicts of EmotionsConflicts of Emotions

AngerAnger AnxietyAnxiety

SadnessSadness

blocks

blocksblocksblocks

blocksblocks

Each emotion can have a variety of Each emotion can have a variety of defensive behaviours and memories defensive behaviours and memories

Slide by Paul Gilbert

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Conflicts of StrategiesConflicts of Strategies

DominantDominant SubmissiveSubmissive

Care-Care-SeekingSeeking

blocks

blocksblocksblocks

blocksblocks

Each strategy can have a variety of Each strategy can have a variety of forms, functions and behaviours and forms, functions and behaviours and

memoriesmemories

Slide by Paul Gilbert

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Restricting positive affect and excitement, or depression, is one strategy Depressed mood is associated with better “analytical

rumination” Which may be helpful in solving complex life problems

Empty or dark moods can help create the space where something new can emerge

Removing limits from positive affect or excitement, or mania, is another strategy Can lead to persistence in a given direction that can

lead to breakthroughs

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When people are trying to control something And there is no direct way to do it

Then they become more likely to see unlikely patterns Including seeing images in noise, perceiving

conspiracies, and believing in superstitions

Whitson, J. A., & Galinsky, A. D. (2008). Lacking control increases illusory pattern perception. Science, 322(5898), 115-117.

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BodyState

subsystem

Auditoryss.

Visualss.

Interacting Cognitive Subsystems, a model by Teasdale & Barnard, based on research on cognitive processing – slide by Isabel Clarke and Donna Rutherford

Implicational subsystem

ImplicationalMemory

Propositional subsystem

PropositionalMemory

Verbalss.

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1. Construct system breaks down Common cause of that: trying to solve a

problem not solvable within existing constructs

2. Temporary suspension of constructs Encounter with the “transliminal”

3. Construct restructuring

If done under high stress etc., errors are more likely, leading to getting attached to defective constructs, and/or back into…..

If done under low stress etc., more likely to result in new vision that enriches the person & possibly the culture!

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Not all stages experienced by everyone.

First: ecstatic – unitive

When prolonged - becomes frightening Mind is no longer private Open to any influence or “insertion” Loss of the construct “safe/dangerous” - danger can

come from anywhere. The boundary between inner and outer is lost.

This slide combines 3 slides by Isabel Clarke

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