Phase 1 Report - Railside at The Forks · 2018-07-20 · events or casual encounters at cafes or...
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Report on Phase One Public ConsultationsMaytoOctober2013
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IntroductionPhaseOneoftheRailSideLandsandParcelFourPlanningIni4a4vepublicconsulta2onsprocessincludedthreecomponents:stakeholdersinterviews,onlinepar2cipa2on,andci2zenworkshops.Whencombined,thesethreemethodsproviderichand
meaningfuldirec2onfortheplan.Thisreportwillsummarizethemethodsandfindingsofthethreecomponentsandwillprovidekeyobserva2onsandrecommenda2onsemergingfromtheprocesstodate.
Contents
CommunityStakeholderInterviews 2OnlinePar2cipa2on 5
Ci2zenWorkshops 7KeyObserva2onsandConclusions 10AppendixA 11AppendixB 12AppendixC 18
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Community Stakeholder Interviews
LandUses
Toini2atediscussionintervieweeswere
askedaboutthepreviouswaterpark
proposalfortheParcelFourlands.
Foremost,nearlyallexpressedthe
opinionthatthereshouldhavebeen
morepublicconsulta2onandopportunityfordialoguebeforethe
projectwasproposed.However,there
wasnoconsensusabouttheappropriatenessofthewaterparkuse
onthesite.
Somesaidthatacommercialwater
parkdoesnot“fit”thesite,elabora2ng
thatitdoesn’tcomplementthe
intellectualpurposeoftheCanadian
MuseumforHumanRightsorreflect
thehistoricalandculturalsignificance
ofTheForks.
However,somesaidthatTheForksisa
moderngatheringplacewithmul2ple
aXrac2onsliketheskateboardparkand
VarietyHeritageAdventurePlayground.
Thoseintervieweesacknowledgedthat
ahighcalibreindoorwaterpark“could
work”ifitwaswelldesignedand
accessible.
Thissec2onoftheinterviewsunderscoredthatWinnipeggershold
strongandsome2mesdiverseviews
aboutwhatTheForksis,andshouldbe.
Further,thereisahighexpecta2onthat
carefulandthoughZulplanningshould
guideanynewdevelopmentsonthe
site.
“People have a sense of ownership of The Forks. What goes there should be a showcase for the city. We need to have this [plan] be a model of ‘best practice’ for the city.” CommunityStakeholder
Whenaskedwhatotherlanduses
shouldbeencouragedontherailside
andparcelfourlands,nearlyall
intervieweessupportedthesitesbeing
revitalizedwithamixofcommercial
uses,inaddi2ontopublicandcultural/
communityspaces.
AboriginalCouncilofWinnipeg
TheAsperFounda2on
CanadianMuseumforHumanRights
CentreVenture
CityTV
DowntownWinnipegBIZ
EconomicDevelopmentWinnipeg
EntreprisesRiel
ExchangeDistrictBIZ
ExchangeDistrictResidentsAssocia2on
Fergie’sFish(MarketTenant)
InnattheForks
Ins2tuteofUrbanStudies
ManitobaChildren’sMuseum
ParksCanada
RiversideManagement(ShawPark)
VIARail
WinnipegChamberofCommerce
TheWinnipegFounda2on
Twenty‐threeindividualswereinterviewedinthiscomponentofthePhaseOne
Consulta2on.Thoseinterviewedarenotmeanttorepresentanexhaus2velistofcommunitystakeholders,andmanyotherswillbeconsultedoverthenextyearthroughvariousforumsandmethods.Rather,theseindividualswereselectedbasedontheproximityoftheirorganiza2ontotherailsideandparcelfourlands(i.e.neighbours)ortheirorganiza2on’smandatetopromoteandcri2callyanalyzetherevitaliza2onofdowntownWinnipeg.
Thepurposeoftheinterviewswastosolicitfeedbackaboutpoten2allanduses,designconsidera2ons,andapproachestotheplanningforrailsideandparcel
fourlands.Aninterviewguide(AppendixA)wasusedtoprovidestructuretothediscussions.
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Nearlyallintervieweessuggested
encouragingstreet‐levelretail,withuniqueshoppingandbars/cafés/restaurantswithoutdoorsea2ng,tocreatepedestrianac2vityandanaXrac2onuntoitself.Somesaidthiswouldprovideameni2estoretainCMHRandShawParkvisitorsinthedowntownafereventsandthattheForkslacksenoughac2vityinthe
evenings.Someexpressedcau2onthattheretailshouldcomplementandnotdetractfromexis2ngretailatTheForksandtherestofthedowntown.
“I think a restaurant and café configuration with a piazza and fountain would enable people to come to The Forks and stay down there and dine and hear live music, etc. Right now The Forks is completely dead after 6 p.m. except for one or two restaurants.” CommunityStakeholder
Fewintervieweessuggestedofficespacetorevitalizethesite.Thosewhodidsaidthatitshouldbeonsmallscaleorthatitshouldhavea“unique”qualitytoit.Forexample,some
suggestedcrea2vebusinessesornon‐governmentalorganiza2ons(NGO’s)thathavea“synergy”withthemandateofTheCanadianMuseumforHumanRights.
Manyintervieweesadvocatedthatsomekindofa;rac<onoracultural/communityprojectshouldbelocatedhere.However,therewasno
consensusaboutthenatureorcontentofthatproject.SomesuggestedthattheprojectshouldaugmenttheCanadianMuseumforHumanRights,suchasacentreforpeaceoragloballybrandedins2tute.Otherstalkedaboutthevalueof
bringingauniqueeduca2onalfacility
tothesiteoracentrethatrecognizestheAboriginalhistoryofTheForks.OtherssuggestedaChicagoMillenniumParkstylewaterfeature,alargeoutdooriceska2ngcomplex,oragiantferriswheelaXrac2on.
Whenaskedspecificallyaboutmul<‐unithousingdevelopmentonthelands,morethanhalfoftheintervieweessupportedtheconcept.OtherseitherdidnotsupporthousingorsaidtheywereunsureaboutmeritsofhousingatTheForks.
Themostcommonlycitedreasonforsupportofhousingwastheasser2on
thatayear‐roundresiden2alpopula2onwouldbeXersupportexis2ngbusinessesatTheForksandwouldimprovesafetyofTheForkssiteintheevening.Thosewhofavouredhousinghowever,conveyednoclearconsensusonthepreferredtenureofhousing,eithercondoorrental.Manyplaceddifferentprovisosonhousingdevelopment,includingthatitmust
havestrongdesignaesthe2cs,mustbehigh‐qualityconstruc2on,mustbeanappropriateheightanddensity,mustbeuniqueinsomewaywhencomparedtootherprojects,ormustbeinclusivewithamixofaffordability.
Afewintervieweesdidnotsupporttheconceptofhousingatall,ci2ngthatitdoesnotfitthe“public”gatheringplacethemeofTheForks.
Somesaidtheywereunsureaboutthe
marketdemandformorehousinginthedowntownduetotherecentWaterfrontDriveprojectsandprojectsintheplanninganddevelopmentstagesinotherpartsofthedowntown.TheyexpressedconcernsthathousingatTheForksmightcompetewithotherdevelopments.Althoughsomealsoacknowledged
thatTheForksmaybealoca2onthatcoulddrawpeoplewhowouldnototherwiseconsiderlivingdowntown.
Thoseinterviewedwereaskedhowmuchofthelandstheythinkshouldbedevelopedaspublicspace(i.e.parkspace,greenspace,oropenspace)versuscommercialspace.Onlyoneintervieweefavouredthelands
beingdevelopeden2relyaspublicspace.Mostotherscouldnotpinpointapropor2onofpublicspacetocommercialspace,butratherstressedthatthelandsshouldhaveamixofusesinordertodrawavarietyofpeoplethere.Manysaidthatwithoutotheryear‐rounduses,ac2vi2es,orreasonstobethere,aparkmaybeunderu2lizedandmayfeelunsafe,
ci2ngsimilarchallengeswithotherdowntownparks.Allagreedthatquality,well‐designedpublicspaceswillneedtobeanintegralparttherailsidelandsandparcelfourrevitaliza2onplan.
“Making it all green space would be easy, but wouldn’t solve a more complex problem. A park would be covered in snow most of the time. We have to recognize that we are a winter city. You won’t be able to draw people there with just a park.” CommunityStakeholder
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UrbanDesignConsidera<ons
Talkingaboutdesigncriteriaintheabstractwaschallengingformostinterviewees.However,allsaidthedesignoftherailsideandparcelfourlandsshouldbeofthehighestquality,andthatdesignstandardsshouldbeestablishedandstrictlyadheredto.Manyacknowledgedthatthe“wow”
factoroftheCanadianMuseumforHumanRightshas“raisedthebar”forotherprojectsatTheForks.Somesaidthattherailsideandparcelfourlandsshouldreachforthatbar,whilesomesaidtheyshouldmaintainthecharacterandfeelthatexistswiththeoriginalolderbuildingsatTheForks(i.e.TheForksMarket,JohnstonTerminal,Children’sMuseum).
Nearlyallintervieweestalkedaboutthedevelopmentoftherailsideandparcelfourlandsasanopportunitytoimprove“connec2ons”betweenTheForksandtherestofthedowntown.Thosewhoraisedthisconceptconveyed,inonewayoranother,thatthesevacantlandsonthenorth,thetworiversonthesouthandeast,andtheCNmainlineonthe
westhavemadeTheForkssomewhatofanislandwithinthedowntown.SomedescribedconcernthatpeoplecometoTheForks,butnevervisitotherdowntownareas.Theysaidthatthe
“draw”ofTheForksshouldbeleveraged
tothebenefitofotherdowntownaXrac2onsandameni2es,throughbeXerphysicalconnec2onsandaccess.
“We are seeing the beginning of a pedestrian network in our downtown. We need pedestrian connectivity between our busy downtown anchors like The MTS Centre and The Forks. How do we get people to walk through this site to rest of the downtown - that is the question.” CommunityStakeholder
Manysuggestedatrail,bikeway,promenade,orsomekindoflinearelementthroughthesitetodrawpeopleintotheForksandprovideapleasantwaytoexplorefromTheForkstotheExchangeDistrictandtherestofthe
downtown.OnenotedthattheEsplanadeRielhasimprovedthesenseofconnec2onbetweenSt.BonifaceandTheForksandthataXen2onshouldbepaidtoconnec2ngthroughthelandstoPortageandMain.Severalintervieweessuggestedthatway‐findingandsignageonthesitecouldalsohelpimproveorienta2onfromTheForkstoother
aXrac2onsinthedowntown.
Othercommonsugges2onsincluded:
createabeXersenseofarrivalorentrytoTheForkssitefromthenorth;considerandmaintainkeysightlinestotheCanadianMuseumforHumanRights;addligh2ngtoimproveeveningsafety;incorporatequalityanduniquepublicart;andensurethatthatbuildingsareaccessibletothepublicatstreetlevel.
Intervieweeswereaskedaboutwhetherthedevelopmentoftherailsideandparcelfourlandsshouldbedis2nctorintegrated.Manysaidthatthetwoparcelsoflanddon’tnecessarilyneedtohavethesame“lookandcharacter,”howevertheplanshouldensurethattheybothcomplementandsupporttheneedsofTheForksandtheCanadianMuseumforHumanRights.Others
notedthatdevelopingoneparcel,whileleavingtheothervacant,wouldnotcreatethe“seamlessconnec2on”thatisneededtobeXerintegrateTheForkswiththerestofthedowntown.
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Online ParticipationTheRailSideLandsandParcelFourPlanningIni4a4vehasestablishedawebsitetoprovideinforma2onandsolicitci2zen
feedback(www.theforks.com/railside).Ci2zensweremadeawareofthewebsitethroughpressrelease,newspaperadver2sing,andradioadver2sing.Inaddi2on,TheForksreachedouttotheir700personmailinglist,their30,000Facebookfriends,and9,000TwiXerfollowers.FromMaytoOctoberofthisyear,therehavebeen4,500hitsonthewebsite.Postalcodetrackingindicatesthatthosewhopar2cipatedonlineresideinallquadrantsofWinnipeg.
PublicSpaceImages
Apagewasspecificallydesignedtosolicitci2zeninputintothepublicspacecomponentoftherailsidelandsandparcelfourplan.Visitorswereaskedtoselectphotographicimagesthatbestrepresentthetypesofac2vi2es,feelings,andthemesthat
theythinkshouldbepartofthepublicspaceplan.Visitorswereaskedtoselectoneimagefromeachoffourgroupsofimages.Eachgroupcontainedphotosinfivekeythema2careastochoosefrom.Itwasexplainedtovisitorsthattheimageswerenotmeanttorepresentspecificprojectsbutmoretoshowpossibili2es,ideas,ac2vi2es,andfeelings.
Nature&Environment
imagesdepictedsceneswithnatureandgreeneryforemost.
Social&Gatheringimagesdepictedscenesofpeoplegatheringforpubiceventsorcasualencountersatcafesorrestaurants.
Ac<ve&HealthyLiving
imagesdepictedphysicalorsportpursuitssuchasyoga,soccer,cycling.
Rest&Contempla<on
imagesdepictedimagesofpeopleinsolitarypursuitsorcommemora2vemonuments.
Interest&Innova<on
imagesdepictedprovoca2veoruniquepublicart.
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“A greenspace in the downtown core where people can go to relax, where people from baseball games, the museum, or The Forks can escape the buildings and relax, and potentially learn about Manitoba landscapes as well. A restored prairie would bring a piece of our history into the core, and potentially expose hundreds of thousands to this unique feature that has helped make our province great.”
Online Citizen Description
“A mid-to-high density residential neighborhood. Street retail and sidewalk eateries. Hidden laneways, full of surprises. Addictively walkable, a new discovery at every turn - charming, historic yet modern - playing off the railway theme - distinctly "Winnipeg". It's time to forge our own style. Memorable. This land is 'ground zero' for future generations' impressions of Winnipeg.”
OnlineCi4zenDescrip4on
Justoveronehundredpeoplepar2cipatedinthisac2vity.Ofthosewho
par2cipated,nearlyallselectedimagesinmorethanonethema2carea,sugges2ngthatvarietyinthepublicspacesisadesiredoutcome.Themostfrequentlychosenimageswerethosethatdepictedsocialandgatheringandnatureandenvironmentthemes.Thesewerefollowedbyinterestandinnova2on.Ac2veandhealthylivingandrestandcontempla2onwerelessofenchosen.
PublicSpaceDescrip<ons
Websitevisitorswerealsogiventheop2ontoexplainintheirownwordshowtheyenvisionedtherailsideandparcelfourlandspublicspace.Justoverninetypeoplechosetoprovidecommentsandideasthisway.ThethoughZulcommentsthroughthisforumprovidevaluableinputintotheplanningprocess(AppendixB).
Roughlyonethirdofthecommentsdescribeapublicspacethatismorepark‐
like,withanstrongeremphasisonopenspacesorgreen,natural,orpassiveelements.
Slightlymorethanhalfthecommentsdescribeamul2‐facetedpublicspace,intertwinedwithabusyurban‐likeenvironment,includingcommercialandpublicstreetlevelac2vi2es.
Publicartalsofiguredprominentlyinthecomments,withnearlyhalfthepar2cipantsno2ngadesireforthis.
Interest&Innova2on
18%
Nature&Environment
24%Social&Gathering
31%
Physical&HealthyLiving
14%
Rest&Contempla2on
13%
PublicSpaceImages‐OnlineResults
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Citizen Workshops
Twoci2zenworkshopswereheldontheeveningsofJune19,2013andSeptember26,2013.TheJune19,2013wasadver2sedintheWinnipegFreePress,TheWinnipegSun,TheGrassrootsNews,LaLiberté,TheMetro,andcommunitynewspapers.TheSeptember26,2013wasalsoadver2sedonCJOBradioandTheWinnipegFreePressOnline.
Sixtyci2zensaXendedthetwoevents.Theeveningswerestructuredatroundtableswithfacilitatorstoseekinputintothepublicspacecomponentoftheplanandtosolicitpreliminaryfeedbackonvariousotherpoten2allandusesforthelands.
PublicSpaceImages
Similartotheonlineprocess,inthefirstexerciseoftheeveningci2zenswereaskedtochoosefourphotographicimagesfromapacketoften.Theywereaskedtoselectimagesthatbestreflecthowtheywouldliketousethespace,howtheywouldliketofeelinthespace,andwhatvaluestheywouldlikeittoconvey.Eachpacketcontainedtwoimagesineachofthefivethema2careas:Interest&Innova2on,Nature&Environment,Social&Gathering,Ac2ve&HealthyLiving,
andRest&Contempla2on.
Similartotheonlineresults,ci2zenschoseimagesinallthema2ccategories,butwithsomewhatstrongerpreferencesforimagesdepic2ngNature&Environment,andSocial&Gathering,althoughRest&Contempla2onalsofiguredprominently.
Followingtheirini2alphotoselec2ons,par2cipantswereaskedtosharewithoneanotherthereasonsfortheirchoices.Thenalltablesassembledtheirphotosandtheirnotesonfiveposterboardsrepresen2ngthefivethema2careas.
Inordertofurtherunderstandthestrengthofpeoples’preferences,par2cipantswerethenaskedtobegintonarrowtheirchoicesontheassembledposterboards.Ini2ally,threeyellowdotswereplacedbyeachpersonontheirtopthreethema2careas.Followingthat,twoorangedotswereplaced
byeachpersonontheirtoptwothema2careas.Finally,areddotwasplacedbyeachpersonontheirtopthema2carea.
Aspar2cipantswererequiredtonarrowandeliminatesomethema2careas,theypriorizedNature&Environmentoverallothers.Ac2ve&HealthyLivingandRest&Contempla2on
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wereabandonedbymostpar2cipantsastheyhadtonarrow
theirchoices.Social&GatheringandInterest&Innova2oncon2nuedtofigureprominently.
LandUses
Asthefinalexerciseinbothworkshops,par2cipantswereaskedtocommentonotherlandusesthatcouldrevitalizetherailsideandparcelfourlands.Par2cipantsinthefirstworkshopwereaskedanopen‐endedques2onabouttheir
reac2ontoavarietyoflanduses.Par2cipantsinthesecond
workshopwereaskedtodescribetheprosandconsofvariouslandusessuchasretailshops,cultural/educa2onfacili2es,mul2‐unithousing,officespace,restaurants,hotel,services(eg.daycare,gym,pharmacy)andparking(AppendixC.).
Approximatelythreequartersofpar2cipantsinbothworkshopsexpressedsupportforretaildevelopmentonthesite.Themostofencitedbenefitsincludedthatretailwouldcreatea“draw”or“des2na2on”forpeopletothesiteand
contributetothefinancialsustainabilityofTheForks.Mostofencitedconcernsaboutretailwerethatitmightincreaseparkingconges2ononthesite,ormightnega2velycompetewithotherretailatTheForks.Manypar2cipantssuggestedthatanyretaildevelopmentonthesiteshouldaXempttoaXractunique,des2na2on,orindependentshops,insteadofchainretailers.Betweenonethirdtoonehalfofpar2cipantssawmeritinserviceorientedretailfordowntownresidentsandworkers(e.g.daycare,gym,pharmacy).
Nearlyallpar2cipantssupportedmoreculturalorcommunityfacili<esonthesite.ManysaidthatartsandculturalaXrac2onsareanintegralpartofTheForksandareavehicletoshowcasethevarioushistoriesofthesite.Financialviabilityandques2onsaboutthepopularappealofsuchfacili2esweretheonlyconcernsraised.
Justundertwothirdsofpar2cipantsexpressedsomedegreeofsupportformul<‐unithousingonthesite,rangingfromenthusias2ctocondi2onal.Commonlycitedcondi2ons
included,thatitshouldbemixed‐usewithgroundfloorcommercial/publicaccess,itshouldbeaffordable,oritshouldhaveasocialorcommunitybuildingobjec2ve(e.g.co‐ophousing,greenhousing).Themostofencitedbenefitsofhousingincludedbringinga24‐hourpopula2ontoimprovesafetyonthesiteandthatresidentswouldsupportbusinessesinthearea.Themostofencitednega2veimpactsincludedthathousingwouldtakeupspaceandwouldbeaprivate,insteadofpublicuse.
Social&Gathering
20% Nature&Environment
39%
Interest&Innova2on
20%
Rest&Contempla2on
15%
Physical&HealthyLiving
5%
PublicSpaceImages‐WorkshopResults
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Lessthanonethirdofpar2cipantssupportedofficedevelopmentonthe
site.Thosewhodid,expressedsupportforitonasmallscaleifitwerelocalsmallbusinesses,humanrightsorganiza2ons,orar2sans.
Overthreequartersofpar2cipantssupportedtheideaofrestaurantsonthelands.Manydescribedthistypeofdevelopmentas“public”innature,crea2ngposi2veandvibrantinterac2onamongpeople.Somesuggestedthatlocal,independent,orethnicrestaurantsshouldbethetargetandthatlargebrandedchainsshouldbeavoided.Similartoretailshops,somepar2cipantsexpressedconcernsaboutparkingconges2onfromrestaurant
development.Theyalsoques2onedwhetherthereisenoughmarketintheareaformorerestaurants.
Betweenonethirdtoonehalfofpar2cipantssupportedtheconceptofhoteldevelopmentonthesite.ThemostofencitedreasonincludedsupportfortourismandfinancialbenefitstoTheForks(i.e.patronsforForksMarkettenants).Someques2onedwhetherthereisenoughmarkettosupportanotherhotelatTheForks.Somesuggestedthatitshouldhaveanichefocussuchashostelorbou2quehotel.
Nearlyhalfofallpar2cipantsexpressedsupportforparkingdevelopmentonthesite.MostofthosenotedthatparkingcanbeunaXrac2veandcandisplaceotherhigherandbeXeruses.Thereforemanysuggestedthatitbedoneinaninnova2veway,hidden,oroutofsight.Manyofthosewhodidnotexpresssupportforparkingdescribeditasan“unfortunate”or“regreZul”necessityinWinnipeg.Manysuggestedthatthedevelopmentoftherailsideandparcelfourlandsshouldtrytoencouragemoreac2ve‐transporta2onortransitridership,withuniquebusshelters,arapidtransithub,pedestrianmalls,orbikepaths.
Thegraphictotheright
depictsthefrequencyofwordsusedbyworkshoppar2cipantstodescribetheaXributesofthephotosinthetopthreethema2careasof:Interest&Innova2on,Nature&Environment,andSocial&Gathering.
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Imperative
Fewpar2cipantssaidthatthelandsshouldbelefalone.Mostsaidthatthetwosurfaceparkinglots,par2cularlyparcelfour,haveanega2veimpacton
theoverallForksexperienceandareundesirablelanduses.ThedevelopmentofTheCanadianMuseumforHumanRightshasfurtherincreasedtheimpera2veforrevitalizingtherailsideandparcelfourlandsinthemindsofmany.
Mixed-Use
Themajorityofpar2cipantsinthephaseonepublicconsulta2onssupportthelandsbeingdevelopedasmixed‐useenvironments,withpublicandcommunityspacesandcommercialuses.Whilesomepar2cipantsadvocatedfor
theen2relandsbeingdevelopedasaparkspace,thisisaminorityheldposi2onofthoseconsulted.
Connections
Par2cipantsadvocatedthatthetwoparcelsshouldbedevelopedinpartnershiptoensurethattheybothenhanceandstrengthenthephysicalconnec2onbetweenTheForksandtherestofthedowntown.Forexample,thiscouldbeaccomplishedbydesigningthemainpublicspaceinsuchawayastoprovideanorth‐southlinearconnec2on(eg.pedestrianpromenadeorgreen
corridor)fromnorthernendofTheForktoitsheart(i.e.ThePortandForksMarket).
Character
Therailsideandparcelfourlandsshouldstrivetoreplicate/enhancethepedestrian‐levelac2vityandbustlethatcurrentlycharacterizesTheForkssite.
Whilesomesuggestedthatthelandsshould“mirror”orbean“extension”oftheCanadianMuseumforHumanRights’“contempla2ve”experience,thisisnotawidelyheldposi2on.Mostpar2cipantscharacterizedtheirvisionforthelandsasonewithmul2pleac2vi2esandexperiences,morecelebratoryinnature,similartowhatcurrentlyhappensatTheForks.
Natural Elements
Thepublicspacecomponentoftheplanshouldestablishgreenandnaturalelementsasthecentralorganizing
feature.Whilean“urbanexperience”waspreferredandadvocatedbymostpar2cipants(e.g.plazas,publicart,cafes),manydonotwantgreenornaturalelementstobesacrificedinordertoachieveanurbanexperience.Ideally,theplanshouldstrivetoachievebothurbanandnaturalelementsinharmony.
Street Level Retail and Restaurants
Nearlyallpar2cipantsinthephase‐oneconsulta2onssupportedretailandrestaurantdevelopmentonthelandsatstreetlevel.Manysaidthatifincorporated,theyshouldbeuniqueorhavea“des2na2on”qualitytoprovidemorereasonstovisitTheForks.
Multi-Unit Housing
Mul2‐unithousingshouldbeconsideredasapoten2allanduseforthetwoparcels.Manypar2cipantssaidthataresiden2alpopula2onwouldimprove
safetyandtheviabilityofTheForks.However,thereisahighexpecta2onthathousingatTheForksshouldstrivetobeinnova2veora“showcase”insomeway.Ideasincludeduniquearchitecturaldesign,uniquemixoftenureandincomes,oruniquebuildingtechnologies(e.g.green).
Culture and Community
Therewasastrongdesireexpressedbypar2cipantsthatTheForkscon2nuetogrowasaplacethatinterpretshistory,showcasescontemporaryculture,andprovidesafocalpointforthebroader
community.Manysaidthattherailsideandparcelfourlandsshouldhouseanewculturalorcommunityprojectofsomenature,althoughnoconsistentsugges2onemerged,anditwilltake2metonarrowandimplementthebestideas.Thereforeitisrecommendedthatapor2onofthelandsbe“banked”forsuchafutureproject.
Design Guidelines
Specificdesignguidelinesfortherailsidelandsandparcelfourini2a2veshouldbecreatedandstrictlyadheredto.Mostpar2cipantsacknowledgedthatThe
Forksistrustworthyandhasaccomplishedahighdesignstandardforpublicspaces,howeverconcernsexistthatcommercialdevelopmentonthesitemaynotliveuptothosestandardswithoutaclearframework.
Key Observations and Recommendations
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• In2011,theCityofWinnipegannouncedthatitwouldsellitsrailsidelandstodevelopahotelandwaterpark.Somepeoplereactedquitenega2velytothis.Whatdoyouthinkthemainreasonswereforthat?
• Atthe2me,whatwasyourreac2ontothedevelopmentofawaterparkonthatsite?
• Whattypesofusesdoyouthinkshouldbeencouragedtolocateontherailsidelands?Aretheretypesofusesthatyouthinkshouldbediscouraged?
• Whatdoyouthinkabouthousingbeingincorporatedintheproject?
• TheForksandtheCityofWinnipeghaveagreedthattheywouldliketoseetherailsidelandsdevelopedtoahighstandardofurbandesign.Whatwouldthatincludeinyourview?
• Whataresomethedesigncriteriathatshouldbeusedforthedevelopment?
• Whenlookingatthespace,howmuchofthesitedoyouthinkshouldbedevelopedaspark/openspace?
• Doyouthinkthedevelopmentofthesetwoparcelsshouldbedis2nctorintegrated,intermsoflookandcharacter?
• Whatdoyouthinkaregoingtobesomeofthekeychallengesfacingthedevelopmentofthissiteasitgoesalong?
• AretherethingsthatyouthinktheCityofWinnipegandtheForkscandotobeXerensuresuccess?
• Whatdoyouthinkisthebestwaytoengagethepublicinthedialogueontheproject?
• Arethereanyotherconcernsorthoughtsyouhaveaboutthedevelopmentoftherailsidelandsorauniqueperspec2vefromyourorganiza2on?
Appendix A. Community Stakeholder Interview Guide
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“Ac2vespacethatconnectsthemarkettothemuseumandthebaseballpark(Thosecanbe'des2na2ons.'Ithinkthisspaceshouldbemoreaboutkeepingpeopleac2veandinterestedwhilemovingfromonedes2na2ontoanother).”
“Iwouldliketoseeacombina2onofoutdoorspaceandrestaurant/pa2otypespace.”
“Unique,exci2ng,different,cuvngedge,peaceful,opentoeveryone,sit,relax,reflect,future,forwardthinking,artinstalla2on,pa2o,coffee,snack,open,free,green,colourful.”
“Ienvisiongreenspace,withlandscapingandarchitecturethatreflectsthefactthatthereisahumanrightsmuseumacrosstheway.Thisspacewouldprovideguests,residentsandothersaspacetoreflectafertheirvisit.However,thereshoulds2llbeenoughgreenspacetoaccommodateforac2velivingac2vi2eslikethoseshowninthepicture,withabiketrail,enoughopengreenspaceforyogaintheparkorthosehavinglunchbreaksfromwork.NomaXerwhichop2on,bringingbackmoregreenspacetotheforksisimportantandakeycomponentofthedevelopmentinmymind.Ifthereisprivatedevelopmentnearthesite,thatcouldhouseanycommercialorretailspaceneeded.Ifso,thatshouldbekepttotheedges,maybealongtherailside.”
“Doagoogleimagessearchforpentagonrow.Iknowit'snotreallymyownwords...sorryforthat.”
“Wellintegratedwithproperlydesignedurbanneighborhood.”
“Lotsofpublicart(fountains,sculptures,interac2vepieces)wherepeoplecangather.Outdoorea2ngareas(pa2os)andmarkets.Possibilitytoextendska2ngtrailthroughthearea.”
“IwouldlikepeopletobeabletoDOthingsatthepublicspace.Iwantpeopletobeabletogather,andpar2cipate,andoccupythespace.Publicartisanotherinteres2ngchoice,butIthinkitcanbetoodivisive.Idon'tthinkweneeditasgreenspace,perse.”
“Residen2al/commercialalongtherailsidelot.Requiresac2vetransporta2on/transitoriented.Incorpora2nggreenspaceinthedesignforparcel4asTheForksaslostsomuchgreenspacetocommercializa2on.”
“AMid‐to‐highdensityresiden2alneighborhood.Streetretailandsidewalkeateries.Hiddenlanewaysfullofsurprises(seeMelbourne).Addic2velywalkable,anewdiscoveryateveryturn‐charming,historicyetmodern‐playingofftherailwaytheme‐dis2nctly"Winnipeg".It's2metoforgeourownstyle.Memorable.Thislandis'groundzero'forfuturegenera2ons'impressionsofWinnipeg.”
“Asthisisthelastundevelopedsiteattheforks,itisimpera2vethatthisareaismaximizedtoitsfullestpoten2al.Iagreemixeduseisthewaytogo.Ibelievethespaceneedstobebothgreenandabovegrounddevelopment.First:Parkingisimportant.Weneedtoreplace,andlikelyadd,parkingtothisareaconsideringtheopeningofthemuseum.Parkingshouldbeinastructuresimilartothegaragethatcurrentlyexistsasitblendsintothegreenspacenexttoit.Asthiswouldbebuildrunningnorth‐southnexttotherailline,itcouldbeslightlylargerthanwhatiscurrentlythere.Ithinkaparkinglotwouldmakemoresenseonthecityownedparcel.Second:Ithinktheno2onofcondos/apartmentswouldfitwiththemul2‐usevisionthattheforkshas.Again,thiswouldoccurontherailside,andwouldn’tbebuiltmorethan4‐5storiesandshouldbebuiltassuchtoblendintothegreenspace.Third:Alongtheriversideoftheseparcelsoflandweneedtoensuregreenspaceisavailable.Thiswillfitwiththevisionoftheforksintended.”
“Greenspace‐abeau2fulspotforwalkingandrelaxingandplayingsports.Restaurants&Cafesthatareopenlate!Morenightlifeaswellasgreatplacestotakeguestsforasundayafernoonlunch.”
“Ienvisiongreenspaceforac2veusewithar2s2candnaturaldesignedspace.I'dalsoliketoseecafesorsomesuchstoppingspacebutamuncertainhowwellthatwouldworkoutinrealitygiventhesquealingbrakesofpassingtrains.”“IchosethefirstpicturebecauseIwouldlikesomeparkspaceincorporatedintheoveralldesign.Ichosethesecondpicture
becauseIwouldliketoseedenseareasofpa2oeateriesgivingthefeelofabustlingarea.Ichosethethirdpicture,againtoemphasizetheimportancefortheneedforoutdoorspacetoallowforpa2osandadenseurbanfeeling.Ichosethefourthpictureinhopesforinnova2ve,modernligh2ngandpublicarttoshowcaseourcitytothemillionsofvisitorsthatwillbeflockingtothearea.Wewantallourvisitorsleavingwan2ngtoreturnwithotherfriendsandfamilytosharetheirmemorable2mesinourcity.Developedbuildingsshouldincludegroundleveleateries,shops,andcommercial.Upperstoriesshouldincludeparking,officeandresiden2al.Aheightrestric2onof25stories,butmaximizetheamountoftowerstoincludeasmanyresiden2alunitsaspossible.(1000+unitsforbothparcels)Citytaxesarecollectedforpeoplelivingupintheairwithoutthecostsofannualinfrastructure/servicecoststothecitybudget.”
“Astrongplaceforpublicinterac2onwithpublicartsuitableforaXrac2onoftouristsfromthenearbyforkswhichwouldactasaplaceoftransi2onintothenearbyexchangeeastandwestdistricts.”
“TheForkshasagreatmanyspacesthatserveavarietyofpurposes–mostlycateringtotourists,bothforeignanddomes2c.Asaresidentlivingafive‐minutewalkawayfromParcel4–passingitasIbiketoworkeveryday–Iwouldlovetoseeinstalla2onsandac2vi2esthatcreatealargersenseofcommunity.Aflexibleplacewherelike‐mindedlocalscanconsistentlygathertobeinspiredandenergizedbyoneanother.Theskateparkisonesuchexample,howeverit'sapplicabilityissomewhatlimited.Createspaceforarealgrass18‐holepuvngcourseliketheCityofEdina'sCentennialLakesParkthatcanbeconvertedtoawintercourseaswell.IntegraterapidtransittofacilitateaccesstothenewMuseum.Allowoutdoorkiosksforlocalbusiness(MountainEquipmentCo‐op,theZoo)tointeractwiththecommunity,andcreatespaceforfoodtrucks.HaveanaturalamphitheatretofacilitateSportManitobademonstra2ons.Artinstalla2onswithinterac2veelements.Equallycapableofhos2ngalumberjackcompe22onasagroupyogaevent.Itmustencouragealterna2vetransporta2on.Itmustbean
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interac2vespace–notamonumentorartinstalla2on.Itshouldalwaysbeinflux.Itshouldbeaplaceneighbourhoodpeopleregularlyvisittoseewhat'sgoingonthatpar2cularday.AsthebridgebetweentheForksanddowntown,itshouldbringinthelocalcommunity.”
“Iwouldliketoseeamixedusebuilding.Parkingstructureonthelowerfloors,thenofficetoppedwithaslimhotel/condotower.Atallandslimtowerisimportant‐theVancouverismmodel,evengreencolouredglass.Theraillinecanbeloud,socondo/hotelshouldbeonfloors8orhigher.ThepublicspaceIwouldliketoseeawideelevatedwalk‐wayliketheHigh‐LineinNYCconnec2ngPortage/Main/WinnipegSquaretotheForks.Partsofthewalkwayshouldbeenclosedorpassthroughbuildingssoyoucanwarmupinwinter.”
“Aferseeingthesepictures,theideaofagreenspacethatencouragesandincorporatesphysicalac2vitywhileconnec2ngwithnaturewouldbeagreatuseofthisspace.IlikedtheoutdoorgymintheGroup3pictures,andwouldfindthatareallygreatplacetogoinWinnipegtogetsomefreshairaswellasphysicalac2vity.Ifnatureandac2vitycouldbeconnectedinanac2vegreenspace,thatwouldbegreat!Itwouldalsopromotevisitorstoincreasetheirphysicalac2vityandtheywouldconnectwithnatureaswell.Acalm,outdoor,judgement‐freezonetoengageinphysicalac2vity...itwouldbeawesome.”
“PriortotheCMHR'sconstruc2on,IsawtheForksasatrulymul2‐purposesite,wherepeoplecanenjoynatureeduca2on,freeconcertsorpresenta2ons,orjustrelax,soakinthesun,andreadabookontheirlunchbreak.Ideally,thisareawouldbeanexpansiononthattheme‐aplacewherepeoplecangotosit,relax,andexperienceabitofnatureintheotherwisemainlyconcretedowntownarea.TopromotearesZulenvironment,asoundandvisualbufferbetweenthisarea,therailwayandmajorthoroughfareswouldbeimportant.Perhapsthiscouldbeaberm,orawallwithvinesandplantstocoverthebasewallstructure.Iftheareaincludedlow‐maintenancegymequipmentlikeinGroup3,Op2on1,orasmallexerciseareafor(quieter)outdoorexercise,thatwould
bepreXyusefultoo.Ideallyitwouldincludeatleastsomesmaller(localflairratherthanbigchain)restaurant/foodandbeveragetake‐outplaces,forconvenience.Ora"foodcourt"areawhereafewfoodtrucks(likethosethatoperateonBroadwayinsummer)couldsetupseasonally.Withtheredevelopmentofthisspace,whatwillbedonetoprovideadequate,affordableparkingforeventsattheballpark,andvisitorstotheForks?Whilepromo2onofac2vetransporta2onortransitisimportant,therealityisthatsomeareasofWinnipegareverydifficulttogettoandfrombytransitorac2vetransporta2on,andIseethisasasitethatshouldcon2nuetobeveryaccessibleandfamily‐oriented.”“Aseriesofurbanplazasandspacesthatintroducebothhardscapesandsofscapesthatcomplimentthecommercialatgradedevelopmentalongwithbeingpublicspacetobeusedbyresidentsonloca2on.Forminganurbanpedestrianstreetthatlinkstheballpark,waterfrontarea,CMHRandforksdevelopmentasnodesaroundtheperiphery.”
“Invi2ng,aplacethatdrawsyouin,aplacewhereyouwanttospend2me.Nature,lotsoftreesandplants,integratedintoitssurroundings,pa2os,invi2ngandbeau2fulallyearround.Sustainableandefficient.Mediumdensitybuildings,nottoohuge,nottoosmall.Morethanonestoryhigh,fourstoriesormoreeven.Residencesaswellasbusinesses.Connec2vitytotherestoftheForks,todowntown,andtotherestofthecity.Connectedtopedestrianpaths,bikepaths,andtransit.”
“Mixeduse,ac2veallyearround,publicart,collabora2vecrea2vespace,plaza,pa2os,peoplelivinggatheringengaging.Ifdesignatedagreenspace,needstobeanimatedinwintermonths.Notamemorial,butrespecZulofthejuxtaposi2onnexttoamuseum.Apersistentconnec2onbetweenMainStreetandtheForks.”
“Maybeapublicspacewithalargescaleartinstalla2on,similartoCloudGateinChicago,orSpoonbridgeandCherryattheMinneapolisSculptureGarden.WouldhavetoworkwellwiththeMuseum,withtheskylineinthebackgroundaswell.”
“Mixedusedevelopmentwithopportuni2esforpublicuse,cycling,walkingpathlinkingthedifferentsitesattheforks.vibrantpublicspaceswithprairielandscapingandpublicart...celebratemanitobaplants,ar2sts,studentartcompe22onsto"furnish"thespace.Mixedincomehousingforstudents,seniors‐lowriseandintegratedwiththepublicuseaspects‐commericalonlowerlevelfeaturingindependentbusinessesandrestaurants.”
“Winnipegneedsmorespacetogather,shareideas,jointogetherforhealthycommunityac2vi2es,andrelaxinanarZulplace.Itcanonlybegoodforthearea!Thespaceshouldrepresentmoreof'what'shappening'attheForks,inaplacethathasmoreofthesamevibeastheparkbehindtheMillenniumlibrary.TheForkshasbeenmyfavouriteplaceinthecityeversinceIwasachild.Ihopeitwillcon2nuetogrowinthesamedirec2onthatithasbeen.Yourprogrammingisgreat,educa2onal,andpromoteshealthyliving.Theac2vetransporta2onpathsandlink‐upsarealwaysusedonmywaytoorfromwork(itseemsnomaXerwhatareaofthecityI'mgoingto,IalwayspassthroughtheForksonthewaythere!).PublicArtisagrowingtrendinthecity,anditwouldbefantas2ctoseemoreofit,especiallyinthedowntowncore.ItwouldalsobegreatifthereweremorepublicfitnessclasseshostedinpartnershipwiththeForks.And,asperusual,youroutdoorconcerts,SalsaSundays,andhos2ngofPride,andmanyFirstNa2onseventsmaketheForksaveryspecialculturalgrounds.Stayingtruetothatnatureisincrediblyimportant.Goodluckwithyourdecisions!Asatotalsidenote,Ialsoheardaboutthisgreatdogparkinthestateswitharestaurant(forhumansandpets),waterslidesforthedogsandalargefenced‐inplayarea,andlotofrecspacefortheirowners.Thatwouldalsobegreat.”
“Greenspace,greenspace,greenspace.WhenIwasakidandvisitedtheForks,itwasanislandofgreenspaceinthedowntownarea.Hugewide‐openlawns,enormoustrees,gardenshereandthere.Comingbacktenyearslaterthewholeareaseemedtohavebeensuckedupbyonedevelopmentprojectoranother.Somehavebeengoodforthedowntown,butothersseemlikeawasteofspace.
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Gonearethegreenareas,pushedfarawayfromthemainbuildings.I'dliketoseemorepublicgreenspaceratherthanaconcretejungle‐gym.WhenIseehowthenewlibrarypark,MemorialPark,VimyRidgeetc.areusedforpublicfes2vals,exerciseclasses,picnics,bikeridesandwalks,itmakesmewishtheForkshadmorespacesthatwerewelcominglikethat.”
“Itshouldbeanallseasonindoor/outdoorparkSimilartotheconservatoryatAssiniboinepark.Peopleneedaplacetogoduringthe8monthsofwinterwheretheycanbeexposedtonatureagain,tressflowersect....Maybeevensomear2ficialsunlighttofightoffthewinterblues.Let'sfaceitwegetmorewinterthansummerandallourparksandpublicspacesaremostlyaccommoda2ngsummercondi2ons,becausewelovesummer.Whynothaveasummergardenwecanenjoyduringthewinter.”
“Thisareashouldbeusedasapublicsquare,similartothetypesweseeinEuropeorAsia.Alargeopenplazainthecentersurroundedbyvariousshops,cafesandrestaurants.Anareawherepa2osandoutdoordiningisafeature.Theplazashouldhaveaveryinvi2ngcentrepiecesuchasalargefountain.ThiswouldcreatealinkbetweenthebusinesscentricareaofdowntownwiththerelaxingsevngoftheForks.ItcouldbecomeWinnipeg'sversionofSingapore'sCarkeQuaywhichisextremelypopularamonglocalsandtouristsalike.Alongtheraillinebehindsomeofthefuturebuildingsaspaceshouldbereservedforfuturerapidtransitlinetobebuilt.Inaggregatethisparceloflandcouldbecomeahugedrawtothedowntownmassesandmakethewholecitycentremoreappealingforthepeople,byaddingaveryinvi2ngplaceforpeopletogoaferworkorforlunch,ortogoandenjoyarelaxingdayoffsivngonthepa2os.”
“Iwouldliketoseethespaceusedasaplaceforrestandcontempla2on.Iwouldalsolikeittocontainpublicartworkthatcouldbeiconic,suchastheBeaninChicago.”
“I'dliketoseeagreenspacetocon2nueonwiththethemeattheforks.plantgrassandtrees,addsomeflowers,afountain,maybesomepicnictablesandchairs...aplaceforpeopletositandeat.My2ndchoicewouldbesomesortofbotanicalgardens.itshouldbesomethingtomakeyoufeellikeyou’renotinthecity.”
“Healthandwellnessaremyvisionspriority.givingbacktothepeoplewithapublicgarden.givingbacktonaturebyplan2ngtreesforthefuture.aplacepeoplecangather
tobefit,perhapsplaygamesandjoinincommunitybuilding.”
“Iwouldlikethespacetobeopentoavarietyofusesthataren't"programmingdependent,"meaningIdon'tthinkitshouldbeastageorclassroom,moreaspacethatinvitespeopletouseitonanindividualorgroupbasis.Itshouldbeabletobeusedbypeoplehavinglunchduringtheworkdaybutalsohaveu2lityduringtheevening.Ithinkitshouldhavesomekindof"hub"componentlikeabusstoporabikerack,whichenablespeopletocongregateenroutetootherthingsintheareabutalsosomekindofaXrac2onlikeapieceofartorafountainthatmightencouragepeopletostayawhile.”
“Acoolgreenspacewhererelaxa2on,learningandexercisearepossible.”
“Iwouldusepartofthespacetobuildasecondparkadefortheforks/museum/ballparkthatoperatesonthesameprinciplesastheexis2ngparkade.Thiswouldhelptoprovideenoughparkingfordayswhentherearelargeeventstakingplaceinthearea,butalsohelptokeepotherareasoflandfreeforother,moreenjoyableuses.Thisparkadewouldbebestplacedattheendofthelandclosesttothemuseumandballpark.Ibelievetherestofthelandshouldbeusedtocreateauseablegreenspaceareathathelpsto2ethedesignsofthemuseumandforkstogether.Aspacethat2esinthear2s2canduseableideasfromthepictureabovewouldmakethemostsense,whilealsokeepingtheareafromlookingtoocommercialized.Idonotthinkthereisanyneedformorerestaurantsorbusinessestobebuiltintheforksarea.”
“TheparcelsarepreXynoisy(railandvehicletrafficsoI'mnotsurecontempla2vegreenspacewouldwork.AnythingthatbreaksuptheindustrialandintegrateswithTheForks/Museumisidealanddoesn'tactasanextensiontotheballparkevenbeXer.”“Ul2mately,youcan'tfocusonpeoplesivngongrassaswearewinterboundtoomanymonths‐‐soitmustincludebuildings,hardallweathersurfaces,andyes,somepublicgatheringspaces.Itneedstoincludecommercial,residen2alandwhateverelseisrequiredtopaythefreight!!!!Parksandbirdsdon'tcontributecash.”
“Itshouldbeacombina2onofgreenandcommercialareasintegratedwithafine‐grainedurbandevelopment.Thatistosay,notablockofparkland,butasuppor2ve,greenconduitthatthreadsthroughtheneighbourhood.”
“Beau2fullydesignedpost‐modernlandscapethatcomplementsthedrama2carchitectureofthehumanrightsmuseum.”
“Anopenareabutnotsimplyanotheremptyfieldwithabikepath,Iwouldliketoseelargescaleartinstalla2onsandspaceforoutdoordiningetc.”
“Areccentre.Hockeyrinkwithstadiumstylesea2ngcomparabletotheMaxBellarena.Peoplecanwatchastheywalkbylikeatwestedmontonmall.Indoorpool,soccerfield.Restaurantsandshops.Undergroundfreeparking.”
“I'dliketoseesomethingthat,asaWinnipegger,Iwouldbeproudtobringanout‐of‐townguesttoo.Thatwouldmeansomethingiconic,orclosetoit(therearealreadyiconicitemsinthearea,sowedon'tneedtospendatonnetocompetewiththat).Somethingthatcomplementstheworld‐classfacili2esandameni2esthatarethere,includingtheCMHR.Iwouldliketoseeancommercialcomponenttohelptheeconomicsustainabilityofthearea.Iwouldliketoseesomethingthatwecanaffordtomaintaininthefutureasaworld‐classarea.”
“Agreenspaceinthedowntowncorewherepeoplecangotorelax,wherepeoplefromgames,themuseum,ortheforkscanescapethebuildingsandrelax‐andpoten2allylearnaboutManitobalandscapesaswell.Arestoredprairiewouldbringapieceofourhistoryintothecore,andpoten2allyexposehundredsofthousandstothisuniquefeaturethathashelpedmakeourprovincegreat.”
“Openspaceandorgreenspacewithafancytypeofhightechartthatdrawspeopleinfromallover.”
“Communityspacetobringpeopletogether.NEEDrestaurantsandbarswatersideinthiscity.”
“Theartandfitnessaspectappeal.WehavenoareainWinnipegwhereiconicartisalargepartoftheaXrac2onandwithsomeofthefeaturesalreadyattheForks,thiscouldbebuiltupon.Allowingforoutdoortheatreissimilar.Exercisespaceisinshortsupplydowntown,sotheabilitytodoyoga,seniorexercisecircuits,andothermorepassiveexercise(asopposedtoplayfieldswithonlookers)seemsagoodfittoo.”
“Thepublicspaceneedstoencompassparking,entertainment,restaurants,andshoppingtoaddtothethemeoftheareaalready.Connec2ngtothetransitcorridor
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wouldalsobebeneficialtoreducethedemandforparking.”
“Acombina2onofgreenspace,invi2ngwalkwaysandquietspacesforreadingorreflec2on.Aninterpre2veelementorsomedisplay(beitsculptureorotherartforms,orinforma2vedisplays)regardingthesignificanceofthearea.”
“Agreenspacewithameni2essuchasgardenplots,publicart,bikesta2onandadultworkout/'playground'setup.”
“Amix‐usespacewithrestaurants,shopsandpublicgreenspace.”
“WhentheForkscameintobeingthepublicweretolditwouldbeforfamilyrecrea2on,but2mehasshownitisliXlemorethanacommercialvenue.Thiscouldbetheopportunitytocreatethekindofspacemanypeoplethoughtweweregevng.Itshouldbenon‐commercialforrelaxa2onandfamily2me!”
“MychoicesaboveareallbaseduponmyviewofTheForksasa'mee2ngplace'wherepeopleofallbackgroundscangettogetherandcelebratesimplysharingthesamespace.IseeTheForksasamee2ngplaceofcultures,community,diversity,ar2s2ctalents,eventsandsomuchmore.IrecallbeinginMontréalduringsomesortofeventwherestreetswereclosedtocarsandstreetperformerslinedtheroadways.Itwasanupbeathappyfes2vespiritthatIthinkwouldbegreatinoneofWinnipeg'smostwellknownlandmarksandtouristdes2na2ons.Restaurantswithgiantoutdoorpa2os.Ithinkitmustbekeptinmindthatoursisacityofsomecoldermonthsaswell,socareshouldbetakeninallowingthespacetofunc2oninthemiddleofoursome2mesendlessfeelingwinters.NonethelessIthinkwhatevergetspeopleouttoenjoythemselves,whilebringinginasmanytouristsaspossibleiswhatwouldbebestforourGreatCity.”
“Iwouldliketheretobepeoplein/onit.Soprogrammedwithadiverserangeofac2vi2esorpurposes.Art.Residen2almixeduse.Interes2nglandscapingliketheHi‐LineinNYorthePromenadePlanteeinParis.Itwouldbegreatiftherewasadesignthatsomehowbridgedtheraillinetoconnecttheloca2ontodowntown.”
“AplacewithverylowdevelopmentintegratedwithapeacefularZulplaceforreflec2onandsolitudeinkeepingwiththeCMHRexperience.”
“Aloca2onthatbecomesades2na2onforpeoplewiththingstodo,placestovisit‐apeopleplacenotapassivepark(therearelotsofthoseintheCity).”
“Iwouldliketoseelarge,eyecatchingpublicartandanumberofpa2osandcafe'stoinfusestreetlifeintothearea.Ofcourseallofthisinfrontofmul2‐levelresiden2alandcommercial.Iwouldlovetoseesometypeof2eredbuildings5to15storiesinheightalongtheraillineabovesometypeofparkingstructure.WehaveenoughgreenspaceattheForksandtheMuseum.”
“Wearelosingtoomuchofourgreenspacesdowntown.Nowheretositandthinksurroundedbygreen.Thesespacescanbeenjoyedbyallages.”
“Naturalvegeta2onwalkingandcyclingpathsontheperiphery,acentralpedestrianandcyclepromenade,leadingtoagreencommon,andhousinganartspacesuchassmallconcertfacility/gallery.”
“Amixtureofresiden2alandnon‐residen2aluses,withpublicopenspacesintheformofpublicplazaswhichcouldbeusedforentertainmentorevents.Includeshousingandsmallscalecommercialusestoservethedailyneedsofresidentsplusinvitesnon‐residentstousethepublicspacessharedwiththeresiden2aluses.Apedestrian‐orientedright‐of‐waywherenocarswouldbeallowedliketheNicoleXMallinMinneapolis,butonamuchnarrowerscaleandwithshorterbuildingsframingthespace.Innova2ve,inven2ve,publicartwouldbeshowcasedtoaXractvisitorsandac2vity.Waterfeatureswouldbeappropriatewithmanyplacestositinformallytoeatanicecreamconeorpeoplewatch.Trytolimittheamountofprivatespacethatonlypayingcustomersorpatronsareallowedin;itshouldbeopentopublicuse.”
“Thepublicspacewillneedtobesafeforallpeople.Thecoreareahasreceivedabadrapandsoanyopportunitytochangethatpercep2onandstandagainstitwould
beideal.Ibelieveacombina2onofart,fitness,naturalorganicterrainandaplacetocelebratemusicandculturewouldhelppeoplerejoiceandfeelasenseoftogetherness.”
“Ithastobegowiththeoriginallandscapebutofferthingstodoorspacestouse.MUSTHAVEPARKINGFORFORKSANDMUSEUM.”
“Aninexpensiveplacetogoforallagegroupstoenjoyavarietyofexperiences‐projectinvolvement(asseeninthestreetart‐group1,ac2on5photo);publicentertainment;strollingandpeople‐watching,aplacetostopforanalcoholicandnon‐alcoholicdrinkandsnack.”
"Mul2use"isprobablyoverusedthesedaysbutthat'swhatthisoughttobe.Heavyweightonresiden2alcomponentas itkeepspeoplethere24/7.IenvisionsomethingliketheHarmonyVillageinBarrieON.Itseemstobringabitofeverythingtogethertocreateanac2ve,living,urbantypevillage.hXp://harmonyvillage.ca/lakesimcoe/”
“Itshouldbethroughlyexcavatedforanyarcheologicalvaluebeforeitisconsideredforfurtherdevelopment.”
“Iwouldliketoseeamixedusewithgreenspace,trees,cyclepathsandawaterfeature...alsosomesmalluniqueshopsandfoodvenueswithlicensedpa2os....overtopofanundergroundparkinglotconnectedbytunnelstotheballpark,thehumanrightsmuseumandtheJohnstonterminal.DowntheroadIwouldliketoseeatunnelconnecttoportageandmain...similartotheMontrealundergroundsystem....Parkingfeesandcommercialstallrentalinsidetheundergroundtunnelsystemcouldpayforitall...”
“Myvisionforthepublicspacecomponentoftherailsideandparcelfourlandsisoneofcommunitypar2cipa2on.WhileIbelievegreenspaceisneededinourcity,if leftooempty,itrisksprovokingonlyindividualac2vi2es.Winnipegneedsdensity,andthisexcitementmustbegeneratedbyacollabora2onoftheparkatmospherewithmorespecificsuggested"group"ac2vityie.providingoutdoorpa2os,en2cingequipmentforgroup
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workouts(group3,op2on4),havingtheopportunitytowalkthroughar2stsastheyworkinthepublicrealm,andhavingdesigninstalla2onsthattheycandirectlyinteractwith.Theseac2vi2esembodytheno2onofprogressandencouragea"oneness"fordwellersinthecity.Peoplewanttofeelliketheycanbothbelongandbelostinaseaofotherpeople.Onceaspaceisintriguingenoughtodrawinmanypeople,societywilliden2fyitasafunspacetoexperienceontheirownaswell.Idon'tjustwantthesitefilledwithanobject,Iwanttherailsideandparcelfourlandstoprovideaninterac2on;oneofnature,communityandplay.”
“Itneedstohavesomesortofuniqueartinstalla2onthatWinnipegwillberenownedfor.Butalsoaspacewherepeoplewillactuallycongregateto.Outdoorplazasareallwellandgoodbutwhentheyaredesertedallthe2mewhichisgenerallythecaseinWinnipegitbecomesuseless.Manycafes/restaurantswithoutdoorsea2ngalongaplazawouldbeideal”
“Itwouldbenicetocreateavisualandsoundbarriertoobscuretheunsightlytracks.Iwouldpreferaspacethatisbusyandofferssomethingofalife‐affirmingcounterpointtothethemesexploredintheCMHR.Itwouldbenicetohavesomepublicartinthisspace.”
“Itrulybelievethattheproposalfromafewyearsbackforthisareawasperfect.Tallerresiden2alunitsattheback(alongtracks)wouldbringinthenecessarycri2calmassofpeopletobeXerconnectdowntownandtheforks,whilealsoblockoutsomeofthetrainnoise.Infrontoftheresiden2alhavecommercialspacewithplentyofshops,cafesandrestaurantswithpa2ospaceinthesummer.ThereasonIchosethepicturesIdidwasbecauseweneedtohaveamixofusesfordaytodayandspecialevents,andyouneedareasonfortouriststocome.Thisspaceshouldnotbecomegreenspace,theForksalreadyhastonsofit.Touristsdonotcometoacitytositinitsparks,theycometospendmoneyandseecoolareas.Group1op2on2isamazing.Familiesout,pa2osandshopsliningthestreetsandlotsofpeople!ItsalmostlikeSt.CatherinesinMontreal,andwouldbeperfectfortheforks!WhentheCMHRopens,peoplewillwanttoexplore
thearea,nothavetobusordrivetoadifferentpartofdowntownorOsborne/Corydon.Feelfreetorespondbyemail:)”
“Outdoorac2velivingtransi2onbetweentheconcretejungleofDowntownandthemorenaturalareasclosertotherivers.”
“Adining,entertainmentandleisurearea.”
“Landscaped:Trees,Gardens,Grass;Non‐vehicularTransporta2onandaccess;PublicArt/Performance;Safe:Well‐lit,wellmarked;Non‐permanentRetail/RestaurantKiosks/Huts;ParkingwithGreenroof/space(seeNYC'sHighline).”
“InmyopinionthespaceadjacenttotheMuseumshouldtakeonaparklikequietsevngwithsitelinesthatwillhelppeoplereflectontheirexperiencesatthemuseum.Perhapssculpturescouldbecommissionedandanenclosedpathcouldbecreatedtoaugmenttheexperiencesofferedacrossthestreet.Abeau2ful,greenspacewithtalltreesafeelingofsafety.Maybeevenadynamicspacewithnewsculpturesexhibitedannually.”
“PedestrianFriendlygreenspacewithsidewalks,bikepaths,flowerssea2ngandpicnicareas.”
“Aspacethatpromotesthephysicalfitnessofdowntownresidentsandvisitors.Sowedon'trequireacartriptoacitysportsfieldlocatedontheperipheraledgesofthecity,inordertobeac2veoutdoors.”
“MyvisionistomimicCentralParkinNewYorkandreservetheareatobeaspark‐likeaspossiblew/avarietyofgreen‐spaceac2vi2es.TheneighboringareaaroundtheForksisalreadybeingdevelopedw/urbanresiden2alhousing,officetowers,etc.TheForkscouldbeourCentralPark,anditstaysinlinew/theserenity&peacefulnessbreakfromthehec2ccitylife.”
Itshouldbelefalone.Youhavealreadytornuptoomanyancestralgravesandancientmee2ngandceremonialplaces.Whenwillthisstop?”
“Noneoftheaboveop2onsquitedepictmyvisionforparcel4andrailsidelands...thereneedstobearesiden2alcomponenttotheforks...currently,you
canshop,play,embracehistoryandculture,gotomuseums,andenjoytheriverattheForks...butwhathasbeenmissingands2llmissingiscanweLiveattheForks!I'mnottalkingabouthotels.Canweactuallyliveandeatattheforks,amixed‐usecentreofresiden2alandcommercialcomponentismissing.ImaginetheForksoftheFuture...Shop,Eat,Play,History,Culture,andNOWLIVEATTHEFORKS.”
“Mypriori2esforthisspaceare1)interac2vepublicart(LikethesplashfountainsinChicagoorDallas)butsomethingthatofferswinterinterac2onaswell2)opengatheringspacethatcanbeusedinavarietyofwaysandnaturallycomplimentstheCMHRandStageareasforlargeevents3)GREEN‐asingrass,trees,paths,bikefriendly,supportswalking.Serviceslikeparkingandfoodshouldnotbeinthisspace‐butcloseby.Wealsoneedsafepublicwashroomaccess‐likethesmallsingle‐payunitstheyhaveinEurope.Therewillbemanypeopleandweneedtosupportaccesstorestroomseasily.”
“Thespacehastobevibrant,ac2veandcon2nuallyaXrac2vetoencourageusethroughallseasonsandall2mesofdayandnight.Andalsosoitdiscouragesvandals.Itshouldbeamixorart,eateriesandopenchangablespace.Itshoulds2llbeaplacethatthepubliccanenjoyandnotbeexcluded.Ifapor2onisforcondosthatisfine,butthemajorityneedstoremainasopenpublicaccessibleusablespace.”
“Transitory,shaded,withwindingpathsandspaceforcollabora2on,fes2valsandworksofartasyoumovefromonepor2onoftheforkstoanother.Aspacetobeusedbythepeopleforspontaneousgatherings,withamixofameni2esincludingfood,housingandpa2os.Thesiteshouldremainlowprofile(onestorywiththeexcep2onoftrees)toallowsweepingviewsofthemuseumanddowntownfromanywhereintheforks.Fromthemuseum,thesiteshouldappearasacanopyoftrees.ThesiteshouldmodelcentralparkorBrooklyn'sProspectpark.Thespaceshouldbepedestrianandbikeoriented,withmul2‐levelparkingdevelopedinanarchitecturallyappealingway.Parkingshouldbeoutofthewayandvirtually
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unno2ceable(par2allyunderground).Thesiteshouldincludeadis2nguishingfeatureatthenorthendtowelcomepeoplefromdowntownandmovethemtowardsthemuseum,St.Bonifaceandtheforks(alsoleadingtotherivertrailandwinterrivertrailwhichisatransitoryroutetowardsCorydonandOsborne.”
“IpickedGroup1op2on1foritsorganiclivingart.GiantsculpturestendtobecomedatedandIbelievemanydon'tappreciatemodernmonumentsbecausetheirmeaningsarelost.Group2op2on5‐notthatIlikethisop2onbutfeeltheothersareoutofplace‐concretemonolithsculpturesagequickly,bars/restaurantsarealreadypresentattheforksandmoredevelopmentlikethatshouldbedirectedtothecoreofthedowntownwestofmainst.Thebigbearsculpture(ortheroosterinLondonUK)s2ckoutlikeasorethumbandclashwiththe"naturalfeeloftheforks."Group3Ipickedop2on2Iwishtheforkssitehadthegrandtreesofotherareasofthecity‐toomuchconcretefeel‐WearethecityofElms‐showcasethat.Group4,noto1(alreadyhaveSco2abankstage)2againwithmodernartthatreflectsonear2stsvisionandusuallyjustcausescontroversy4and5repeatotherareasalreadyattheforks‐3givestheideaofopenaccesswhetherpedestrianorcyclist(nonmotorized).Oftheabovegroup1op2on1,Group2op2on5,group3op2on2andgroup4op2on3couldallworkinharmonyorbeeverchangingkeepingitfreshandlively.”
“Largescalepublicspacethatisalsobusyandengagingonahumanlevel,butthenalsogoesontocreateevensmalleruniqueinhabitableenvironmentsthatareawai2ngdiscoverythroughengagement.”
“Peoplearealwayslookingforthingsto"do"‐thingsthatgobeyondpassivelywatchingorlistening(thosearegoodtoo).Crea2ngspacesthatinviteac2vity,(aplacetocreateart,togarden,ortoexercise)makesthespacephysicallyengaginganddynamic.TherearemanyinnercityNFPandotherorganiza2onsthatc/wouldtakeadvantage.Thecommunitygarden(asIinterprettheonephoto)isaXrac2vebecauseitcanbeveryfunc2onalandeduca2onal.Mylastchoiceisanodtoalsoincorpora2ngspacethatsimply"is"andwhereonecansimply"be."
“IbelievethatafreshwateraquariumwouldbeagoodfitforthesiteacrossfromtheCanadianMuseumforHumanRights.Ienvisionthefacilitytobelocatedbelowgrade,withaparkabove.Theserenityofanaquariumandaparkwouldbewelcomefoilstothesome2mesdisturbingcontentoftheMuseum.Anaquariumwouldalsobeanexcellentteachingandresearchvehicle,providinginforma2ononthemanyspeciesofaqua2clifeinManitoba,includingtheBelugawhale,(thoughIappreciateaBelugadisplaymaywellbeproblema2c).”
“Thereshouldbearchaeologicalmuseumandlearningcentrethatfocusesonthepiecesfoundatthesite.Youcouldhavecutoutofthebuildingsinthegroundcoveredinglassshowingpiecesundisturbed.Therecouldalsobeapublicfarmandhugepublicwaterpieceorpond.”
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RETAILSHOPSRETAILSHOPS
PROS CONS
‐alreadyhaveshopsattheForks,takesawayfromhigherand
beXeruses
drawspeoplewithapurpose,goodforwintertraffictakesupspacewheretherecouldbeac2vi2esotherswould
liketoenjoy,usuallyinvolvesparking
permanentrevenuesupport notflexible,willrequireservicingandinfrastructure
wouldhelpoutwiththeeconomyandprovidejobs ‐
‐ alreadyenough[attheForks]
‐ disposable,momentary,shallow,shortterm
indigenousretailopportuni2es,localwaresdowntownsector[outsideForks]isalsoinneedofsmall
business,TheForksshouldretainhistory
bringsdevelopers/sparksinterest,bringsacertaindemographic,brings$$,local[retailers]wouldbegood
lotsofretailatTheForks,ecologicallyinsensi2ve
bringspeopletotheareaforaspecificpurposetherealreadyisenoughcommercialindifferentareasofthe
Forks
‐ alreadyhaveretail,takesuppublicspaceandgreenspace
des2na2on alreadyplentyattheForks
greatersocialgatheringandrevenue conges2onduetoovercrowding
$income somemayfeelit’stoocommercialandexcludedfinancially
fun,ac2ve,economicallysustainableforTheForks,urban,supportsneighborhood
ugly,emptystorefrontsiftheyareunsuccessfulanddon’tsell‐out
shopping=[people]traffic needstobeoriginalkindsofretailtodrawtraffic
moresocialinterac2ons,generateslocaleconomybiggerchainchainstoremaynotbebeneficialasitmighttake
overlocalstores
convenient,essen2alservicesarebeXer notaplacetostayforlongperiods
bringspeopletotheareaifitissomethingunique Forkshasalotofshoppingalready
Appendix C. Citizen Workshop Results Land Uses
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CULTURE/EDUCATIONFACILITIESCULTURE/EDUCATIONFACILITIES
alwaysagood,bringstourists,whatcanwedotobringpeoplethereinthewinter2me
mayonlyappealtoasmallpercentageofpeople
wouldprovidedepthtotheproject ‐
historical/agricultural,pre‐colonialar2facts,tourism/self‐sustaining
‐
enduring,enriching,people,social
flexibleexpression,alwaysneeded,history/environment
richwithhistory,archeological,cultural,inclusiveofpre‐colonial,poten2alinterpre2vecentre
‐
educatesyouth/public,showshistoryofthesite,lackofpublicschoolsinthearea
humanrightsmuseumalreadynextdoor,lotsofotherins2tutesalreadyinthearea
educa2onal‐allagescanusethesite ‐
importanceofpre‐Winnipegheritage,thousandsofyearsthesitewasusedasgatheringspace,notrecognizedtoday
‐
richexperience,morevarietyofac2vi2es,allagesbenefit lessprofit,requiregovernmentfunding
canbeaveryrichproject couldbeunderu2lized
portrayalofthediversecultureofthecity duplica2onwithotherculturalprojects/ac2vi2es
inclusive,honouringpast+present lesseconomicallyviable
honourshistoricsite,bringsinpeople,appropriateforthishistoricplace
themuseumtakesofthisneed,weneedsuppor2veuses,notduplicate
central,accessible overkillgivenrecentcapitalcampaigns
informa2ve,historical,exposeculturalshifs(whatdowevaluenowvs.manyyearsago?)
‐
moreeventsthatletothers(tourists)experiencetheplace ‐
variety,niche lotsofeduca2onal/culturalfacili2eshavespacesalready
‐ TheForksalreadyhassomeofthesethings
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MULTI‐UNITHOUSINGMULTI‐UNITHOUSING
PROS CONS
couldfacilitatesustainabilityofTheForks,residentswouldshopatTheMarket
reducesgreenspace
wouldhelpcommercialshops,increasesafety(morepeoplearound)
toonearrailwayyards,ballpark,etc,promotesheavytraffic,toomuchtrafficnow
smallscalemaybewouldtakealotofspace,TheForksshouldbeaplacefor
culture,fun,relaxa2on
‐ notappropriatefortheloca2on
addssorelyneededhousingforthecity lesssharedspace,senseofintrusionhenceresentment
‐ downtownyes,butForksno,notonahistoricsite
“eyesofthestreet”JaneJacobs,apartmentsareneededinthecitynotcondos,increasedensityofthedowntown
couldlackenvironmentalandhistoricalindesign
‐ doesn’tfittheideaofTheForks
moreeyesonthestreet,accessibilityforresidents,fillsneed,densifica2onofthedowntown,moreculturecomparedto
gentrifiedexchangelofsnotpublic
cityneedsit(increasedensity),eyesonthestreetincreasessafety,morepeopleonthesite24/7
controversial
reduceshomelessness possiblefric2onbetweendiversebackgroundsinhousing
keepspeoplethere notapublicuse
24hourac2vity,morepeopledowntownisgood,greatifitcanbereasonably/appropriatelypriced
needabalanceofprivateversuspublic,percep2onofunfairness,designchallengewiththerailway
moretrafficdowntownkeepsitsafer familiesseemtoprefersuburbs[forhousing]
bringsinanewdemographic,makesforasaferarea,morewelcoming
takesawayforthepublicspacebecauseitprivate
generatesmoredensityandmoressocialpar2cipa2on lessdesirableplacetolive(noise,traintracks,safety)
mul2‐familycouldcreatevariety notaffordable,familieswithkidswouldnotlivehere
morepeoplelivingintheareawouldbegintoactuallyformtheareaintoaneighbourhood
familiesmaynotwanttoliveinthearea
revenuesandtaxesrequiresinfrastructure,requiresservices,biastocertain
people,security
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OFFICSPACEOFFICSPACE
PROS CONS
‐ notpublic
goodsourceofrevenue,couldbeaveryricharchitecturalproject,highqualityspacecouldbringmorebusinesstothe
citycontroversial,peoplecouldbedisappointed
goodsourceofincomedependingonthenatureoftheofficesitmaycreateasense
ofinsecurity
$income notpublicuse
goodaspartofamixed‐usesite,probablywouldbeagreaterrevenuegenerator
ugly,emptybuildingsifitisunsuccessful
moretrafficdowntownkeepsitsafer alotofdowntownofficespaceisunderu2lizedcurrently
ifforsmallbusinesses,smallerspacesforrent,couldcreateuniqueinterac2onsbetweenbusinessownersandregular
public
wouldmakethisareaintoanotherMainStreet,noonewantstohangoutonMainStreet
generatesmorebusinesses unnecessaryforaspacethatisusedforsocialgatherings
goodifmixed‐use the[office]peoplegohomeat5:00
smallofficeswouldsupportsmallbusinessesalreadyalotofofficespacenorthofthesite,peoplegohome
aferwork
providesrevenuewrongspotforthistypeofuse,canbeonanypieceof
pavement
‐ ‐
goodforrevenue,itwouldmeanworkersintheareaallyearround
TheForksshouldremainaparkfirstandforemost,asacredplace,don’tovercommercialize
shouldbeonalimitedscale ‐
‐ notappropriatefortheloca2on,invasive
‐ exclusionary,
opportunityforinnova2vegreentechnologythatprotectsanddoesnotdisturbtheprecioussitbeneath
thedowntownhasanabundanceofalterna2veopportuni2esforspace
morejobsinthecityanddowntown theareahasalot
‐notaesthe2callypleasingforarea,alreadyhaveofficespace
downtown
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RESTAURANTSRESTAURANTS
PROS CONS
moreac2vityatnight=moresafety onlyonefunc2on,consumesgreenspace
peoplelovefood,moreservicesmeansmorepeoplelivinginthearea
areplentyofrestaurantsaround
greatersocialgatheringandrevenueconges2onduetoovercrowdingandpossiblecrimerate
increase
$income,publicuse,butshouldbeaffordabletolowincome ofenoverpriced,thisexcludesmany
public,fun,cultural,des2na2on,beau2fulspace,interes2ng,hugepoten2alsuccess
needtocontrolalcoholconsump2on
peopleneedtoeat,food=[people]traffic lotsofdowntownrestaurantsalready
bringsinmorepeople,morevariety,funenvironment,nightlife,localrestaurants
bigchainrestaurants[nega2ve]
givesvibrancytotheenvironmentbigchainrestaurantsmaykillthelocalrestaurants,nobig
chainrestaurants
peoplegathering,staylonger,profitformaintenance[ofTheForks]
lesscharacteris2c,nochains
healthyop2ons nochains
uniquefoodop2ons,small TheForkshasalotoftheseop2ons
support[revenue]forthearea,needstobeflexible requiresparking,biastocertainpeople
ifuniquesmallandspecialitycoffeeandfoodshops,mul2‐ethnicrestaurants
chainorlargeformatrestaurantsnotcompa2bleinthearea
alwaysneededwherepeoplegather,willbringpeopleinallyearround
notalotmoreneededinthewinter2me
wouldaXractmorepeopletovisittheplaces,mul2‐cultural ‐
‐ notenoughparkinginthearea
poten2alforculturalsharing redundant,sociallylimited
‐restaurantsareonlyu2lizedbycertainclassofpeople/
tourism
goodlunchdes2na2onfordowntownworkers doweneedmore,areahasalot
amee2ngplaceforpeople ‐
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PARKINGPARKING
PROS CONS
‐onlyoneuse,wastedopportunity,ecologicallybarren,empty,
lesssafe
WinnipeggerslovetheirparkingWinnipeghaswaytoomuchparkingalready,shouldbe
encouragingalterna2vemodesoftransporta2on
goodquietuseofthearea unfairadvantagetoelitewhopossessvehicles
parkingisnecessary,mustbeaffordableorfreetothegeneralpublic
canbedisrespecZuloftheAborignalhistoryofthesite(shouldhaveamonumenttoit)
convenient,parkingisneededforballpark/museum badifitoverwhelmsthesite
neededfordevelopment,providesaccessforpeople,encouragesvisita2on
takesawaygreenspacepoten2al,aesthe2callyunappealing
makesmorepeoplewillingtocomeandvisitfromotherpartsofthecity
‐
‐itbecomeadeadspacewhenitisnotbeingused,ithas
alreadyusedupalotofgreenspace
goodfordrivingaccessibilityuseofsurfaceparkingherewouldbealiXlebitofawasteof
thisgreatplace
accessible,bufferfortheindustrial deadspace
‐ alreadyalotofsurfaceparkinginthedowntown
unfortunatelyneeded,couldbepermeable,mostlikelystacked
pavement/gravel/spacerequirement
needparkingforForksandbaseballstadium,actsasabufferalongtherailway
detractsfromthearea
havingmoreparkingwouldbeconvenientforvisitors ‐
leaveslandlessdisturbedunderneath[archeology],fullbusterminalwouldmaketheForksmoreaccessible
barrenness
perhapsnecessarymeaningless,wasteland,promotesuseofvehiculartransport,
lessgreen
‐drivershavetomakeachoice,makeitmoredifficult,public
transportmustprevail
$$forthedeveloperWinnipeghasaninsaneamountofparkingdowntown,no
moreneeded
‐ thespaceisalreadyparking,notmul2‐func2onal
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HOTELHOTEL
PROS CONS
givestouristseasyaccesstoTheForksanddowntown,increasedbusinessandeconomy
alreadyhaveone,redundant
increaseddensity,greatmixeduseopportunity controversial
boasttourismandrevenueforForksbusinesses conges2onduetoovercrowding
‐archeologyneedstobeproperlyandfullyexploredbefore
development
signatureloca2on designiscri2cal,can’tbeugly
encouragestourism isanotherneededinthedowntown?
tourism,idealloca2onInnatTheForksisalreadythere(noneedforanotherone),
unnecessaryuseofspace
aXracttouriststothearea morethanenough?
convenientforvisitors,aXrac2veenvironmentforguests,uniquehotel
tourismvs.localculture,mayeffectusageforlocalpeople
‐ lotsofhotelsaround
‐ alreadytwohotelsinthearea
revenue/taxes wrongspaceforthistypeoffacility
‐ usesthepoten2alforgreenspace
wouldincreasetourism ‐
‐ alreadyenoughinthearea
‐ exacerbatessenseofoverdevelopmentinthearea
leavehotelstotheSHEDdistrictnewhotelalreadyexistsonsiteandinmul2pleloca2ons
downtown
ifthereisdemand ‐
wouldbringtouriststothearea alreadyhasenoughhotelsinTheForksvicinity
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SERVICES(i.e.daycare,gym,pharmacy,etc.)
SERVICES(i.e.daycare,gym,pharmacy,etc.)
PROS CONS
increasesthevarietyofameni2es consumegreenspace
‐thisrequirespeopleintheareatosupporttheservices,nota
wholelotofpeopleliveinthearea
providepermanentrevenuewrongspotforthis,shouldbemoreinthedistanceforthe
site
‐displaceshigherandbeXeruses,shoulduseexis2ngbuiltup
areas
neededonlyifmul2‐familyhousingisimplemented housingnotagoodidea
greatopportunityforthis,servicesaregreatlyneeded,wouldbeapopularidea
canbedifficulttosustain
canbeusedbyworkersthatworkthere servicesareusuallyassociatedwithurbaniza2on
importantforbuildinganeighbourhood thissiteistooimportanttobejustanordinarysite
encouragesdowntownliving capacity‐isthisthebestuseofthespace?
canworkwellinrela2ontothingslikehotelandmul2‐family,neededbecauseeverythingelseissofar
‐
providesconvenience itisnotafacilitytobeprovided
shouldbealimitedscalewouldtakespaceinsteadhavingareasforculture,fun,and
enjoyment
‐ enoughinarea
perhapsadaycarespace notnecessary
‐ canbelocatedonMainStreet
moredaycaresalwaysgood,mightincreasefamiliesinthearea
lotsofgymsatPortageandMain
wouldbeusefulforpeopleintheareanotaccessibletocommutetoservicesifnotalready
downtown