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41 ubs nmj jcaejcj zb he{c Omfcz Mt{eb m *4,000 lb
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43 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4; ]& Mfj ubs qmej ubs jej znmz dmqcj spbf m pnbfc
48 abf{ctqmzebf xezn Iq& Mt{eb znmz lmqzcj mdbsz 4
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4 ]& Ubs jejf(z he{c nct znc mazsml ancag zell
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5 znc Mt{eb kmielu ef znmz zmpc, ubs ncmtj xnmz Omfcz
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44 ]& Mfj xbslj ez dc maastmzc zb qmu znmz ubst
41 pnbfc abf{ctqmzebf xezn nct znc ptc{ebsq jmu plsq
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3 IT& ICQCTCMS? E(ll tcpntmqc ez ek znc Abstz
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> ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Xncf Iq& Mt{eb bf znc
5 =5zn bk Kcdtsmtu 4001 ef ubst mpptb~eimzclu
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=: mq xnctc qnc le{cq mfj xnb qnc le{cq xezn&
=3 ]& Ef znmz abf{ctqmzebf, jej qnc c{ct zcll ubs
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40 ZNC ABSTZ? Znc bdocazebf eq b{cttslcj&
4= Ubs imu mfqxct&
44 ZNC XEZFCQQ? Si, jej qnc icfzebf xncznct qnc
41 le{cq bt dcefh qsppbtzcj du Omu Omagqbf2
4: ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Iu ketqz }scqzebf xmq, jej
43 Omfcz Mt{eb ef ubst pnbfc abf{ctqmzebf bf Kcdtsmtu
4; =5zn, 4001, c{ct icfzebf zb ubs znmz qnc xmq le{efh
48 xezn m Imobt Omu Omagqbf, mfj E dclec{c ubs qmej,
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3 xmq tcace{efh mfu kefmfaeml qsppbtz ktbi m ImobtOmu
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8 M& E jbf(z tcicidct nm{efh znmz abf{ctqmzebf&
> ]& Ef znmz pnbfc abf{ctqmzebf, jej Iq& Mt{eb
5 c{ct icfzebf znmz nct kmielu nmj bdzmefcj mf
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=5 ZNC ABSTZ? B{cttslcj&
40 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Ef znmz pnbfc abf{ctqmzebf
4= bk Kcdtsmtu =5zn, 4001, jej Iq& Mt{eb c{ct icfz
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44 znmz mfu aclcdtezecq nmj mz mfu zeic he{cf nct
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43 zeic&
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48 ZNC XEZFCQQ? Jb E mfqxct2 Fb&
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8 ZNC ABSTZ? Qsqzmefcj&
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5 bf Kcdtsmtu =5zn, 4001, jej Iq& Mt{eb c{ct icfzebf
=0 znmz qnc nmj qcz sp m dmfg maabsfz kbt znc dcfck
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=> mfu dcfckezq, kefmfaeml bt bznctxeqc, znmz qnc bt
=5 nct kmielu nmj tcace{cj ktbi Ieanmcl Omagqbf2
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4= ]& Jej qnc c{ct qmu mfuznefh mdbsz qbicbfc
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41 M& Fb&
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48 M& Obc Imtasq eq Fc{ctlmfj [mllcu ptbpctzu
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8 znmz nc jejf(z nm{c znc msznbtemzebf zb lcz znc
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=> znmz E zbbg znc gejq mfj E jbf(z tcicidct nm{efhmfu
=5 ibtc abf{ctqmzebf& Dsz nc xmq mxmtc bk ic zmgefh
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40 znc gejq xezn ic&
4= ]& Bgmu& Qb jej ubs mqqsic mz znc zeic znmz
44 It& Imtasq gfcx znc aneljtcf xctc bf znc ptbpctzu,
41 xeznbsz znc ibznct, mfj znmz It& Imtasq fccjcj qbic
4: zupc bk msznbtemzebf zb osqz lcz znci hb bkk xezn
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4; IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 tc}setcq
48 qpcaslmzebf&
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= ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Nbx isan zeic clmpqcj
4 dczxccf It& Imtasq zcllefh ubs znmz nc jejf(z nm{c
1 msznbtezu zb lcz znc gejq hb mfj ubst mazsmllu
: zmgefh znc gejq xezn ubs2
3 M& Mpptb~eimzclu 10 iefszcq&
; ]& Bgmu& Mfj jej ubs mqqsic znmz xeznef znmz
8 10)iefszc pctebj It& Imtasq zclcpnbfcj qbicbfc zb
> kefj bsz ek nc abslj lcz zncqc aneljtcf lcm{c znc
5 ptbpctzu2
=0 M& E mqqsic znmz(q xnmz nc jej, ucq&
== ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubs zncf, mpptb~eimzclu 10
=4 iefszcq lmzct, psz znc zntcc aneljtcf ef ubst amt
=1 mfj jtb{c znci zb Lbq Mfhclcq, tehnz2
=: M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
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=5 nei ubs xmfzcj zb zmgc znc zntcc aneljtcf zb Lbq
40 Mfhclcq, jej nc mqg ubs ek ubs nmj znc msznbtezuzb
4= jb qb2
44 M& E jbf(z tcicidct&
41 ]& Jej ubs zcll nei ubs nmj znc ibznct(q
4: pctieqqebf zb psz nct zntcc aneljtcf ef ubst amtmfj
43 jte{c znci zb Lbq Mfhclcq2
4; M& E jbf(z tcicidct&
48 ]& Bgmu& Dsz E mqqsic mz qbic pbefz ubs
4> znbshnz ubs nmj znc ibznct(q pctieqqebf zb jb znmz, 8835
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= abttcaz2
4 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
1 ]& Bgmu& Mfj mz qbic pbefz ef zeic, ubs
: lcmtfcj znmz Omfcz Mt{eb jej fbz xmfz zb tczstfzb
3 Fc{ctlmfj kbt znc keliefh, tehnz2
; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
8 ]& Ubs lcmtfcj znmz Omfcz Mt{eb xmfzcj znc
> keliefh zb zmgc plmac qbicxnctc ef Lbq Mfhclcq
5 Absfzu, abttcaz2
=0 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 mqqsicq kmazq&
== ZNC ABSTZ? E(ll qsqzmef znc bdocazebf mq
=4 {mhsc&
=1 IT& ICQCTCMS? Bgmu&
=: ]& Mz qbic pbefz dckbtc ubs psz znc zntcc
=3 aneljtcf efzb ubst mszbibdelc mfj jtb{c znci zbubst
=; nbic, xmq ez ubst sfjctqzmfjefh znmz znc ibznct
=8 mpptb{cj ubst jbefh znmz2
=> M& Ucq&
=5 ]& Mfj E hmznct ubs zncf jtb{c znc aneljtcf
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40 jetcazlu zb ubst nbic7 eq znmz tehnz2
4= M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
44 ]& Xncf ubs hbz zb ubst nbic, xmq Omfcz Mt{eb
41 znctc2
4: M& Fb&
43 ]& Mz qbic pbefz mkzct ubs mtte{cj mz ubst nbic
4; xezn znc zntcc aneljtcf, jej Omfcz Mt{eb mtte{c2
48 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4> ]& Bgmu& Mfj mq ubs zcqzekecj, znc keliefh 88;0
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= zncf zbbg plmac mz ubst nbic, tehnz2
4 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
1 ]& Fbx, ubs efjeamzcj znmz mf ef{cqzehmzbt
: fmicj Dtmj Iellct xmq znctc, tehnz2
3 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
; ]& Mfj jej ubs lcmtf znmz nc xmq xbtgefh kbt
8 Mzzbtfcu Imtg Hctmhbq2
> M& E jej fbz gfbx xnb nc xmq xbtgefh kbt&
5 ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs mqqsic nc xmq ef{cqzehmzefh
=0 qbicdbju2
== M& E jejf(z gfbx xnu nc(q znctc&
=4 ]& Bgmu& Jej nc c{ct c~plmef zb ubs xnu nc xmq
=1 znctc2
=: M& Fb&
=3 ]& Bgmu& Dsz nc isqz nm{c ejcfzekecj neiqclk
=; mq m pte{mzc ef{cqzehmzbt, tehnz2
=8 M& Fb& Xnmz nmppcfcj eq E mqgcj bfc bk znc
=> hcfzlcicf bk Imta Qanmkkcl(q pcbplc xnb zneq hsueq,
=5 mfj zncu qmej nc(q m pte{mzc ef{cqzehmzbt&
40 ]& Bgmu& Dsz ubs fc{ct tcmllu gfcx ek nc xmq
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4= ef{cqzehmzefh znc Mt{ebq, bt Qanmkkcl, bt ubs,bt
44 mfudbju, tehnz2
41 M& E jejf(z gfbx&
4: ]& Bgmu& Fbx, ubs({c dccf efzct{ecxcj du
43 tcptcqcfzmze{cq bk znc Jeqzteaz Mzzbtfcu(q Bkkeac,
4; abttcaz2
48 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4> ]& Mfj nm{c zncu c{ct jeqasqqcj xezn ubs xnb 88;=
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= It& Iellct eq ef znbqc efzct{ecxq2
4 M& Bf Fb{cidct =>, 4001, E xmq qct{cj xezn m
1 qcmtan xmttmfz& Bf znmz qcmtan xmttmfz, ez qmuq
: znmz mfu jbasicfz znmz abslj qnbx mfu tclmzebfqnep
3 dczxccf ic mfj Dtmj Iellct&
; ]& Bgmu&
8 M& Mfj znctc xctc qbic bznct }scqzebfq mdbsz
> znmz&
5 ]& Mfj bznct znmf nei dcefh mz ubst nbsqc znmz
=0 fehnz, ubs tcmllu nmj fb tclmzebfqnep xezn nei,
== tehnz2
=4 M& Fb&
=1 ]& Mfj ek nc xmq pszzefh mfubfc sfjct
=: qst{cellmfac, ubs xctcf(z mxmtc bk ez, tehnz2
=3 M& Fb&
=; ]& Bgmu& Mfj mz qbic zeic ubs lcmtfcj znmz nc
=8 nmj mazsmllu jbfc m kcx iefszcq bk qst{cellmfacbf
=> ubs, tehnz2
=5 M& Tcacfzlu E lcmtfcj znmz&
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40 ]& Ubs lcmtfcj znmz ktbi znc ptbqcaszebf,
4= abttcaz2
44 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
41 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, bd{ebsqlu ucqzctjmu, znc
4: ptbqcaszbt plmucj znmz lezzlc dez bk kbbzmhc, mfj
43 ubs ejcfzekecj ubstqclk mfj ubst mszbibdelc, tehnz2
4; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
48 ]& Mfj xnctc jej znmz kbbzmhc zmgc plmac, ek
4> ubs gfbx2 88;4
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= M& Znmz(q xnmz E xmq xbfjctefh ucqzctjmu& E
4 jbf(z ))
1 ]& Ez xmq fbz mz ubst nbic, tehnz2
: M& Fb&
3 ]& Ez xmq qbicxnctc clqc2
; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
8 ]& Ez mppcmtcj znmz ubs xctc hbefh zb m pmtgcj
> {cnealc znmz ubs bxfcj2
5 M& E dclec{c qb&
=0 ]& Dsz ubs(tc fbz qstc xnctc znmz xmq2
== M& Fb&
=4 ]& Bgmu& Bgmu& Jej ubs c{ct qcc Ef{cqzehmzbt
=1 Dtmj Iellct mkzct znmz c{cfefh ubs kelicj znc Mt{eb
=: kmielu2
=3 M& Jej E qcc nei mhmef2
=; ]& Ucq&
=8 M& Fb&
=> ]& Qb znmz xmq znc ketqz mfj bflu zeic ubs({c
=5 c{ct qccf znc hsu2
40 M& Znmz xmq znc ketqz mfj znc lmqz zeic E c{ct
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4= qmx nei&
44 ]& Jej nc c{ct amll ubs mkzct znmz mfj mqg ubs
41 mfuznefh, zb ubst gfbxlcjhc2
4: M& Fb&
43 ]& Bgmu& Dsz ubs(tc qmuefh Imta Qanmkkcl zblj
4; ubs nc xmq m pte{mzc ef{cqzehmzbt2
48 M& Bfc bk neq hsuq&
4> ]& Bgmu& Fbz Qanmkkcl neiqclk2 88;1
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= M& Fbz Qanmkkcl neiqclk&
4 ]& Bgmu& Bgmu& Dsz xnbc{ct zblj ubs znmz
1 jejf(z zcll ubs znmz nc xmq ciplbucj du Mzzbtfcu
: Hctmhbq, abttcaz2
3 M& Fb&
; ]& Mll tehnz& Jej ubs lcmtf znmz mz qbic
8 pbefz, znmz It& Iellct xmq m pte{mzc ef{cqzehmzbt
> netcj du Mzzbtfcu Imtg Hctmhbq2
5 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 mqgcj mfj
=0 mfqxctcj&
== ZNC ABSTZ? B{cttslcj&
=4 Ubs imu mfqxct&
=1 ZNC XEZFCQQ? E ncmtj bf znc Z&[&
=: ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Bgmu& Bgmu& Mll tehnz&
=3 Lcz ic hcz dmag zb znc kefmfaeml jeqmhtccicfz ubs
=; nmj tchmtjefh ubst keliefh znc Mt{eb kmielu, bgmu2
=8 M& E(i qbttu, tcpcmz znmz, plcmqc&
=> ]& Znc abfactfq ubs nmj mdbsz dcefh ptbpctlu
=5 abipcfqmzcj kbt znc xbtg znmz ubs nmj jbfc, bgmu
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2
40 M& Sfpmej ef{beacq2
4= ]& Ucq& E xmfz zb mqg ubs qbic }scqzebfq mdbsz
44 znmz&
41 Mz znc zeic ubs kelicj znc Mt{eb kmielu kbt
4: pstpbqcq bk znc tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu, jej ubs gfbx
43 xncf znc jbasicfzmtu xmq qsppbqcj zb met bf
4; zclc{eqebf2
48 M& Ucq&
4> ]& Mfj xnmz xmq ubst sfjctqzmfjefh mdbsz xncf 88;:
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= znmz tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu xezn Imstu Pb{ean xmq
4 qsppbqcj zb met bf zclc{eqebf2
1 M& Kcdtsmtu 40zn bk 4001&
: ]& Znmz jejf(z he{c ubs isan zeic zb hcz znc
3 kbbzmhc ubs kelicj zb znc fczxbtg znmz xmq hbefhzb
; mazsmllu met znc qnbx, jej ez2
8 M& Fb& Ef kmaz, xc ieqqcj znc jcmjlefc&
> ]& Ucq& Btehefmllu, xmq znc plmf kbt ubs zb
5 keli znc kmielu, hcz eiicjemzclu pmej mfj hcz ezzb
=0 znc fczxbtg2 Xmq znmz znc efezeml plmf2
== M& Znc efezeml plmf xmq zb kefeqn zneq tcdszzml
=4 jbasicfzmtu du iejfehnz bk =5 )) Kcdtsmtu =5 bk
=1 4001, zb dc metcj kbt znc 40zn& Mfj znc jmu mkzct
=: ez(q metcj E xmq qsppbqcj zb hcz pmej ef ksll&
=3 ]& Bgmu& Mfj E dclec{c ubs zcqzekecj znmz ubs
=; xeznnclj znc kbbzmhc dcamsqc ubs nmjf(z dccf
=8 eiicjemzclu pmej, abttcaz2
=> M& Xcll, E nclj znc kbbzmhc dcamsqc bk bznct
=5 tcmqbfq& E nmj zb imgc m abpu bk ez& Mfj mlqb,
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40 qefac xc ieqqcj znc jcmjlefc, znctc xmq fb tcmqbf zb
4= tsqn zb jcle{ct zncqc zmpcq mfuxmu&
44 ]& Dsz du xeznnbljefh znc kbbzmhc, ez xmq alcmt
41 zb ubs znmz ez abslj fc{ct dc bf znc zclc{eqcj
4: jbasicfzmtu, tehnz2
43 M& Qbttu, qmu znmz mhmef2
4; ]& Du xeznnbljefh znc kbbzmhc znc xmu ubs jej
48 kbt znc tcmqbfq ubs({c c~ptcqqcj, ez xmq bd{ebsqzb
4> ubs znmz ez abslj fc{ct mppcmt bf znc jbasicfzmtu, 88;3
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= tehnz2
4 M& Xcll, mq E qmej, xc ieqqcj znc jcmjlefc
1 mfuxmu, qb znctc xmq fb xmu znmz znbqc kbbzmhc abslj
: nm{c dccf sqcj ef znc tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu&
3 ]& Dsz ubst sfjctqzmfjefh mdbsz xnu ubs xctc zb
; keli znc kmielu xmq znmz znctc xmq m jcqetc zb
8 pbqqedlu sqc znmz kbbzmhc ef znc Z&[& jbasicfzmtu,
> abttcaz2
5 M& Xcll, btehefmllu xc xctc qsppbqcj zb qnbbz
=0 zneq bf =5, Kcdtsmtu =5, zb dc jcle{ctcj du iejfehnz
== zb znc ptbjsazebf abipmfu& Qefac xc pmqqcj znmz
=4 jcmjlefc, E gfcx znmz ez(q fbz hbefh zb dc sqcjkbt
=1 znc tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu&
=: ]& Fbx, ucqzctjmu, ubs zcqzekecj znmz Jeczct
=3 mfj Gbfezct nmj ptbieqcj ubs m ptbkez pmtzeaepmzebf
=; ef znc zclc{eqcj jbasicfzmtu, abttcaz2
=8 M& M pctacfzmhc bk znc tc{cfsc&
=> ]& Fbx, abttcaz ic ek E(i xtbfh, E znefg
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=5 ucqzctjmu ubs sqcj znc keti )) sqcj znc zcti, c~asqc
40 ic, m pctacfzmhc bk htbqq ptbkezq7 xmq znmz ztsc
2
4= M& Ucmn, htbqq ptbkez&
44 ]& Bgmu& Dcamsqc znctc eq jbasicfzmzebf znmz
41 zmlgq mdbsz ubst almei znmz ubs nmj m fcz ptbkezq
4: efzctcqz mq bppbqcj zb m htbqq ptbkezq efzctcqz2
43 M& Xcll, imudc E(i fbz }smlekecj zb jeqzefhseqn
4; znc jekkctcfac dczxccf znc zxb, dsz znctc xmq mf
48 mhtccicfz znmz bfac )) bfac zneq jbasicfzmtu eq
4> metcj, znctc xbslj dc m pctacfzmhc bk znc qmlcq,88;;
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= mibsfz bk znc htbqq qmlcq, zb ic kbt iu xbtg&
4 ]& Mfj xmq znmz pctacfzmhc bk htbqq qmlcq
1 qsppbqcj zb efalsjc htbqq qmlcq mll b{ct znc xbtlj2
: M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
3 ]& Mfj ef ubst iefj, znmz abslj dc imfu
; iellebfq bk jbllmtq pbzcfzemllu, tehnz2
8 M& Mz znc zeic, E jejf(z gfbx xnmz xmq znc
> qmlcq&
5 ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubs(tc qmuefh znmz Jeczct mfj
=0 Gbfezct hm{c ubs mf btml mhtccicfz zb znmz ckkcaz,
== tehnz2
=4 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=1 ]& Znctc xmq fbznefh c{ct tcjsacj zb xtezefh
=: mdbsz ubst nm{efh m pctacfzmhc efzctcqz ef ptbkezq
=3 mqqbaemzcj xezn znmz qnbx, tehnz2
=; M& Zncu ptbieqcj ic znmz zncu xell psz zneq ef
=8 xtezefh, dsz zncu fc{ct jej&
=> ]& Bgmu& Fbx, ef lehnz bk znc kmaz znmz znc
=5 kbbzmhc bk znc Mt{eb kmielu abslj fbz mppcmt ef
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40 znmz jbasicfzmtu, jej ubs qzell znefg ubs xctc
4= cfzezlcj zb znmz pctacfzmhc efzctcqz2
44 M& Qstc&
41 ]& Ef lehnz bk znc kmaz znmz znc kbbzmhc abslj
4: fbz mppcmt ef znmz jbasicfzmtu, jej ubs qzell kccl
43 ubs xctc cfzezlcj zb ubst fbtiml kccq mfj abqzq2
4; M& Xcll, znc Mt{eb kmielu kbbzmhc xmq fbz znc
48 bflu bfc, znc bflu kbbzmhc zb dc sqcj ef znmz
4> tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu& Znctc xmq qbic bznct kbbzmhc 88;8
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= atcmzcj du ic znmz xmq qsppbqcj zb dc sqcj ef znctc&
4 ]& Mfj mf c~miplc bk znmz kbbzmhc xmq ubst bxf
1 pctqbfml efzct{ecx, tehnz2
: M& Mq kmt mq ptbkez hbcq2
3 ]& Ucq&
; M& Abslj ubs dc ibtc qpcaekea2
8 ]& Qstc& Qstc& Lcz(q zmlg mdbsz mll znc xbtg
> ubs jej bf znc tcdszzml qnbx znmz xmq nbqzcj du
5 Imstu Pb{ean, bgmu2
=0 M& Bgmu&
== ]& Znc xbtg ubs jej xmq m pctqbfml efzct{ecx,
=4 tehnz2
=1 M& Pctqbfml efzct{ecx bk ))
=: ]& Ubs&
=3 M& E jej fbz jb znmz iuqclk&
=; ]& Dsz ubs qpbgc ucqzctjmu mdbsz m pctqbfml
=8 efzct{ecx ))
=> M& Fb, E jej fbz qnbbz znmz efzct{ecx& Ef
=5 bznct xbtjq, E jej fbz qnbbz iuqclk zb dc
40 efzct{ecxcj& Qbicdbju clqc qnbz ic&
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4= ]& Ucq& Dsz actzmeflu ubs jej htmfz mf
44 efzct{ecx znmz qbicdbju clqc qnbz kbt pstpbqcq bk
41 znmz jbasicfzmtu, tehnz2
4: M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
43 ]& Mfj ubs mlqb bd{ebsqlu jej m qnbbz bk znc
4; Mt{eb kmielu kbt znc pstpbqcq bk znmz jbasicfzmtu,
48 tehnz2
4> M& Qstc& 88;>
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= ]& Xnmz clqc jej ubs jb kbt znc pstpbqcq bk
4 ptcpmtefh znmz jbasicfzmtu2
1 M& Mq E tcicidct abttcazlu, E psz 430 nbstq ef
: m imzzct bk == jmuq, 430 nbstq ef m imzzct bk ==
3 jmuq, bkzcfzeicq 40 )) 40 nbstq m jmu zb kefeqn zneq
; tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu&
8 ]& Mfj znmz efalsjcj kbbzmhc bk bznct kmielu
> icidctq bk znc Omagqbf kmielu, abttcaz2
5 M& Znc Omagqbfq( kmielu icidctq efzct{ecx,
=0 bznct kbbzmhc znmz E ptb{ejcj, mfj cjezcj kbt ))
== ]& Tehnz&
=4 M& )) kbt znc pstpbqc bk zneq jbasicfzmtu&
=1 ]& Mll tehnz& Fbx, bznct znmf znc Mt{eb
=: kbbzmhc, jej ubs ptb{ejc znc bznct kbbzmhc ubs jej
=3 zb znc fczxbtg2
=; M& Bznct kbbzmhc bk2
=8 ]& Kmielu icidctq& Jej ubs ptb{ejc znmz ef m
=> zeiclu kmqnebf qb ez abslj dc sqcj ef znc
=5 jbasicfzmtu2
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40 M& Xncf ubs qmu kmielu icidctq, mtc ubs
4= zmlgefh mdbsz It& Omagqbf(q kmielu icidctq2
44 ]& Ucq&
41 M& Bgmu&
4: ]& Qb znmz xmq he{cf ef zeic zb dc efalsjcj ef
43 znc jbasicfzmtu, abttcaz2
4; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
48 ]& Znc bflu kbbzmhc ubs jej znmz xmq fbz
4> ptb{ejcj ef zeic zb efalsjc ef znc jbasicfzmtu xmq 88;5
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= znc kbbzmhc bk znc Mt{eb kmielu, tehnz2
4 M& Znc bflu kbbzmhc znmz xmq fbz ptb{ejcj2
1 ]& Xcll, lcz ic )) E(i ptbdmdlu abfksqefh ubs&
: Jbf(z efzcfj zb&
3 Znc Mt{eb kmielu kbbzmhc fc{ct hbz znctc ef
; zeic, tehnz2
8 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
> ]& Znc bznct kbbzmhc ubs jej jej hcz znctc ef
5 zeic, tehnz2
=0 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
== ]& Bgmu& Ek ubs gfcx znmz znc kbbzmhc bk znc
=4 Mt{eb kmielu xmq fbz hbefh zb hcz znctc ef zeic
,
=1 xnu jej ubs abfzefsc zb jb ez2
=: M& Xcll, qefac xc qcz sp mll znc c}sepicfz mfj
=3 c{ctuznefh, iehnz mq xcll qnbbz ez&
=; ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubst pbqezebf mkzct ubs qnbz ez
=8 xmq, E xmfz zb imgc m abpu bk ez, mfj E(i fbz
=> nmfjefh ez b{ct zb mfudbju zell E(i ptbpctlu
=5 abipcfqmzcj, tehnz2
40 M& Fb, ketqz iu znbshnz xmq E(i imgefh m abpu
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4= bk ez, osqz kbt efqstmfac& Ef amqc qbicznefh
44 nmppcfq zb znc zmpcq, znctc(q m abpu bk ez&
41 Dsz znc ibtfefh mkzct xncf Tbfmlj mfj Jeczct
4: mfj bznct bk It& Omagqbf(q mhcfzq tcksqcj zb zmlg zb
43 ic mdbsz zneq sfpmej ef{beacq eqqsc, E jcaejcj znmz
4; E(i fbz hbefh zb jb mfuznefh sfzel E hcz pmej&
48 ]& Sn)nsn& Bgmu& Ubst pbqezebf xmq ubs
4> xctcf(z hbefh zb jb mfuznefh sfzel ubs hbz pmejubst 8880
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= fbtiml kccq mfj abqzq znmz xctc bxcj, plsq ubs nmj m
4 jbasicfzcj pctacfzmhc efzctcqz ef ptbkezq abiefh
1 ktbi znc qnbx, tehnz2
: M& Mll znc sfpmej ef{beacq mfj znc pctacfzmhc
3 znmz zncu ptbieqcj ic&
; ]& Ucq& Bgmu&
8 Fbx, ubst lmxuctq mz Htccfdcth Ztmsteh, znc
> lmx keti ubs tczmefcj, xtbzc m lczzct zb Jm{ej
5 LcHtmfj bf Imtan 3zn, 4001, znmz E qnbxcj ubs
=0 ucqzctjmu, bgmu2
== M& E jbf(z znefg ubs qnbxcj ic m lczzct bk iu
=4 lmxuct&
=1 ]& Bn, imu E )) xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst
=: tcabllcazebf ek E osqz qnbx ez zb ubs2
=3 M& Qstc&
=; IT& ICQCTCMS? Imu E mpptbman, Ubst Nbfbt2
=8 ZNC ABSTZ? Fb, ubs nm{cf(z mqgcj nei m
=> }scqzebf znmz tc}setcq mfu tcktcqnefh bk icibtu&
=5 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Bgmu& Jb ubs tcamll m
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40 lczzct ktbi ubst lmxuctq znmz xmq xtezzcf zb Jm{ej
4= LcHtmfj bf Imtan 3zn, 40012
44 M& Znctc xmq m lbz bk lczzctq xtbzc& E jbf(z
41 tcamll xnean bfc ubs mtc tckcttefh zb&
4: ]& Jb ubs tcamll bfc xtezzcf bf Imtan 3zn,
43 40012
4; M& E jbf(z tcicidct m qpcaekea jmzc&
48 ]& Xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf ek E osqz
4> qnbx ubs m abpu bk znmz lczzct2 888=
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= M& Qstc&
4 IT& ICQCTCMS? Imu E mpptbman2
1 ZNC ABSTZ? Fb& Ubs nm{cf(z mqgcj nei m
: }scqzebf znmz tc}setcq tcktcqnefh bk icibtu&
3 IT& ICQCTCMS? E znbshnz )) nc jbcqf(z gfbx
; znc jmzc, Ubst Nbfbt& E xmq osqz hbefh zb tcktcqn
8 nei bf znmz& Mll tehnz&
> ]& Nbx lbfh mkzct ubs abiplczcj znc kbbzmhc bk
5 znc Mt{eb kmielu jej ubs tczmef m lmx keti zb
=0 tcptcqcfz ubs2
== M& Abslj ubs tcpcmz znmz mhmef2
=4 ]& Ucq& Ubs kelicj znc Mt{eb kmielu bf znc
=1 40zn, tehnz2
=: M& Ucq&
=3 ]& Ubs xeznnclj znc kbbzmhc ) bgmu2 ) kbt
=; {mtebsq tcmqbfq znmz ubs({c ejcfzekecj2
=8 M& Qstc&
=> ]& Mfj ubs xcfz zb m lmx keti zb tcptcqcfz ubs
=5 qnbtzlu mkzct znmz, abttcaz2
40 M& Xnmz jb ubs icmf qnbtzlu mkzct2
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4= ]& Xcll, xeznef m absplc bk xccgq, ztsc2
44 M& Mpptb~eimzclu&
41 ]& Znc lmx keti xmq m keti du znc fmic bk
4: Htccfdcth Ztmsteh, abttcaz2
43 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4; ]& Mfj Htccfdcth Ztmsteh xtbzc m lczzct zb
48 Mzzbtfcu Jm{ej LcHtmfj, xnb ubs nm{c qpbgcf mdbs
z
4> dckbtc& Zncu xtbzc nei m lczzct bf Imtan 3zn, 4001, 8884
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= ejcfzekuefh ubst pbqezebf bf abipcfqmzebf, tehnz2
4 M& E dclec{c qb&
1 ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx kbt qstc2
: M& Xcll, mhmef, E jbf(z nm{c iu tcabtjq nctc,
3 qb E jbf(z gfbx xnmz )) xnmz lczzct ubs(tc tckcttefh
; zb&
8 ]& Bgmu& Xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf ek
> E qnbx znmz zb ubs2
5 M& Qstc&
=0 IT& ICQCTCMS? Znc lczzct bk Imtan 3zn, eq
== znmz pctiezzcj, Ubst Nbfbt2
=4 ZNC ABSTZ? Ucq&
=1 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Qb xnmz fsidct2
=: ZNC XEZFCQQ? Bgmu&
=3 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Nm{c ubs nmj m anmfac zb
=; lbbg mz znmz jbasicfz2
=8 M& Xcll, iu lmxuct xmq ef zbsan xezn It&
=> LcHtmfj, qb ibqz bk znc abiisfeamzebfq xctc dczxccf
=5 iu lmxuct mfj It& LcHtmfj&
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40 ]& Dsz ubs({c lbbgcj mz znmz jbasicfz E qnbxcj
4= ubs, tehnz2
44 M& Tehnz fbx E lbbgcj mz ez&
41 ]& Mfj ubs qcc m jmzc bk Imtan 3zn, 40012
4: M& Ez qmuq Imtan 3zn&
43 ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx mpptb~eimzclu xncf ubs
4; netcj m lmxuct zb tcptcqcfz ubs bf zneq pmtzeasl
mt
48 eqqsc2
4> M& E jbf(z tcicidct& 8881
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= ]& Bgmu& Ez xmq qnbtzlu mkzct ubs kelicj znc
4 Mt{eb kmielu, abttcaz2
1 M& Xncf ubs qmu qnbtzlu, xnmz jb ubs icmf2
: ]& Xeznef m absplc xccgq2 Xeznef zxb xccgq2
3 M& Mpptb~eimzclu&
; ]& Mfj nmj ubs imjc mfu {ctdml tc}scqzq zb
8 Jeczct mfj Gbfezct zb kslkell xnmz ubs qmu zncet
> ptbieqcq xctc dckbtc ubs xcfz zb m lmxuct2
5 M& E(i qbttu, qmu znmz mhmef2
=0 ]& Nmj ubs qpbgcf zb Jeczct mfj Gbfezct
== dczxccf znc keliefh bk znc Mt{eb kmielu mfj znc
=4 zeic ubs tczmefcj znc lmx keti bk Htccfdcth Ztmsteh2
=1 M& Ucq, E qpbgc xezn znci&
=: ]& Jej ubs ztu zb hcz znefhq tcqbl{cj xezn
=3 znci2
=; M& Ucq, E jej&
=8 ]& Mfj E hmznct ubs abslj fbz jb znmz2
=> M& Fchmze{c&
=5 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, ubs xctc mqgefh zb dc
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40 abipcfqmzcj kbt ptbocazq ubs nmj jbfc qefac =555,
4= tehnz2
44 M& Znctc xctc sfpmej ef{beacq ))
41 ]& Ucq&
4: M& )) ktbi &55, 400=, mfj E dclec{c 4004 mfj
43 4001&
4; ]& Tehnz& Bfc bk znci nmj zb jb xezn ubst
48 keliefh znc Met Kbtac {eqezefh Fc{ctlmfj, abttcaz2
4> M& E jbf(z nm{c iu tcabtjq, dsz ez abslj dc& 888:
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= ]& Xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf ek E osqz
4 qnbx ubs ubst bszqzmfjefh )) m tcabtj bk ubst
1 bszqzmfjefh ef{beac2
: M& Eq znmz bfc bk znc bszqzmfjefh2
3 ]& Ucq&
; M& Ez eq, kbt qstc2 Bgmu& E icmf, E jbf(z
8 nm{c iu tcabtjq& E jb nm{c tcabtjq znmz qnbxq xnm
z
> nmq dccf pmej, xnmz nmq fbz dccf pmej&
5 ]& Bgmu&
=0 M& Dsz tehnz fbx E jbf(z nm{c fbznefh ef ktbfz
== bk ic zb dc mdlc zb zcll ubs xncznct znmz qpcaekea
=4 ef{beac nmq dccf pmej bt fbz&
=1 ]& Xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf ek E osqz
=: qnbx ubs m tcabtj bk ubst ef{beacq2
=3 M& Plcmqc&
=; IT& ICQCTCMS? Imu E mpptbman2
=8 ZNC ABSTZ? Ucq&
=> IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Xnmz fsidct, Absfqcl2
=5 ZNC XEZFCQQ? Mtc ubs tckcttefh zb zneq bfc2
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40 Bgmu&
4= ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Nm{c ubs nmj m anmfac zb
44 lbbg mz znmz jbasicfz2
41 M& Ucq&
4: ]& Jbcq ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf mdbsz ubst
43 bszqzmfjefh ef{beacq mz znmz zeic2
4; M& Xnmz ubs qnbxcj ic, ez(q m qsiimtu bk mll
48 znc sfpmej ef{beacq mz znc zeic&
4> ]& Bgmu& Mfj qbic bk znc xbtg ubs nmj jbfc ubs 8883
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= nmj ptb{ejcj mfj qbic bk ez ubs nmj xeznnclj pcfjefh
4 pmuicfz, ztsc2
1 M& E jbf(z tcicidct&
: ]& Xcll, znc )) ubs nmj jbfc mf efzct{ecx xezn
3 Ieanmcl Omagqbf, abttcaz2
; M& E jej mf efzct{ecx xezn Ieanmcl Omagqbf2
8 ]& Xcll, ubs, ef ubst ef{beacq, tckct zb znc
> Dmqnet efzct{ecx xezn Ieanmcl Omagqbf ef Klbtejm,
5 abttcaz2
=0 M& Bgmu&
== ]& Ubs nmj kelicj znmz efzct{ecx ubstqclk,
=4 tehnz2
=1 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=: ]& Mfj ubs xctc xeznnbljefh znmz kbbzmhc sfzel
=3 ubs xctc pmej, abttcaz2
=; M& Fb&
=8 ]& Xcll, znc qancjslc ubst lmxuct ptb{ejcj
=> efjeamzcj znmz, jejf(z ez2
=5 M& Xcll, zneq kbbzmhc znmz ubs(tc zmlgefh
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4= xncznct E nm{c zstfcj b{ct znbqc kbbzmhc bt fbz&
44 ]& E(i zmlgefh mdbsz Imtan 3zn, 4001& Jb ubs
41 tcamll xncznct ubst pbqezebf xmq ubs xctc hbefhzb
4: xeznnblj kbbzmhc jcmlefh xezn Qbfu ef Fcx Ubtg mfj
43 Lbfjbf sfzel ubs xctc pmej2
4; M& E jbf(z sfjctqzmfj ubst }scqzebf&
48 ]& Bgmu& Lcz ic tcpntmqc ez&
4> Mq bk Imtan 3zn, 4001 )) 8888
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= M& Bgmu&
4 ]& )) znc Mt{eb kbbzmhc znmz ubs nm{c
1 jcqatedcj xmq fbz znc bflu kbbzmhc ubs xctc tcksqefh
: zb jcle{ct sfzel ubs xctc ptbpctlu pmej, tehnz2
3 M& Xcll, E icmf, E )) amf ubs tcktcqn iu icibtu
; du imgefh mf c~miplc bk ez2
8 ]& Xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf zb lbbg
> mz zneq qsiimtu bk ef{beacq ubst lmxuct qcfz2
5 M& Qstc&
=0 IT& ICQCTCMS? Imu E mpptbman2
== ZNC ABSTZ? Ucq&
=4 ZNC XEZFCQQ? Xncf ez qmuq, Fb, fbz
=1 fcacqqmtelu icmfq fbznefh nmq dccf zstfcj b{ct&
=: Imudc fbz legc znc btehefml abpu, dsz znctc nmqdccf
=3 abpecq znmz nmq dccf jcle{ctcj mltcmju&
=; Ef kmaz, ek ubs lbbg mz znmz qsiimtu, ubs(ll
=8 qcc sfjct znc Imtzef Dmqnet kbbzmhc, ez qmuq, Fb,
=> dsz ez xmq ptb{ejcj, m abpu bk znmz kbbzmhc mfuxmu&
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=5 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Bgmu&
40 M& Dcamsqc ez xmq metcj bf Kcdtsmtu 40zn&
4= ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs tcamll mfu ibfcu c{ct dcefh
44 xetcj zb ubs ef pmtzeml pmuicfz bk xnmz ubs kclzubs
41 xctc bxcj kbt znc xbtg ubs jej2
4: M& Znctc xmq bfc pmuicfz imjc mkzct )) E
43 dclec{c m ibfzn mkzct xnmz zncu ptbieqcj ic&
4; ]& Jb ubs gfbx nbx isan znmz xmq2
48 M& 400,000&
4> ]& Bgmu& Xnb xetcj ubs znc 400,0007 ek ubs 888>
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= gfbx2
4 M& E dclec{c ez xmq ktbi Jm{ej LcHtmfj(q
1 bkkeac&
: ]& Bgmu& Mfj jb ubs tcamll nbx isan ubs kclz
3 ubs xctc qzell bxcj mkzct ubs tcace{cj znc 400,0002
; M& E dclec{c iu ef{beacq xctc b{ct *100,000&
8 ]& Bgmu&
> M& Kbt m pctebj bk m ucmt mfj m nmlk, xnean
5 400,000 xmq pmej&
=0 ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubs, zb zneq jmu, fc{ct zstfcj
== b{ct znc Mt{eb kbbzmhc zb mfubfc, abttcaz2
=4 M& Abttcaz&
=1 ]& Znc Mt{eb kbbzmhc xmq qcecj du qnctekkq
=: tcptcqcfzmze{cq xncf zncu jej m qcmtan bk ubst nbic,
=3 tehnz2
=; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=8 ]& Fbx, xncf jej ubs lmqz zmlg zb Omfcz Mt{eb2
=> M& Kcdtsmtu 40zn bk 4001&
=5 ]& Bgmu& Qb znmz xmq znc lmqz jmu ubs qmx nct
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40 bt qpbgc zb nct, tehnz2
4= M& Mq E tcicidct, znmz(q abttcaz&
44 ]& Bgmu& Nm{c ubs c{ct qpbgcf zb mfu bk nct
41 zntcc aneljtcf qefac znmz jmu2
4: M& Fb&
43 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, znc ptbqcaszbt mqgcj ubs
4; }scqzebfq mdbsz Jeczct mfj Gbfezct almeiefh zncu
48 imfmhcj It& Omagqbf(q mkkmetq, tehnz2
4> M& E xmq efkbticj du It& Tbfmlj mfj Jeczct, 8885
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= Gbfezct mfj Xcefct, znmz qbiczeic ef ptbdmdlu
4 mpptb~eimzclu Jcacidct bk 4004, zncu hbefh zb zmgc
1 b{ct znc imfmhcicfz bk It& Omagqbf&
: ]& Mfj ubs xctc efqztsazcj du Gbfezct fbz zb
3 amll Ieanmcl Omagqbf, tehnz2
; M& Mz bfc pbefz, ucq&
8 ]& Nc mqgcj ubs zb bflu amll nei mfj fbz amll
> Ieanmcl Omagqbf bt C{{u, abttcaz2
5 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=0 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 ncmtqmu&
== IT& ICQCTCMS? Ubst Nbfbt, ez(q ef tcqpbfqc
=4 zb znc jbbtq bpcfcj du znc ptbqcaszebf bf znmz
=1 eqqsc&
=: ZNC ABSTZ? Znc bdocazebf(q b{cttslcj&
=3 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Mpptb~eimzclu xncf jej
=; Gbfezct zcll ubs, Jbf(z qpcmg zb Ieanmcl Omagqbf
=8 bt C{{u2
=> M& E dclec{c xmq legc mpptb~eimzclu Kcdtsmtu
=5 4=qz&
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= ]& Nc zblj ubs nc xmq ef anmthc bk mll
4 tcqztsazstefh, tehnz2
1 M& Zncu zblj ic znmz zncu hbefh zb zmgc b{ct,
: mfj, ubs gfbx, imgc znefhq qibbznct&
3 ]& Tehnz&
; M& Bpctmzebf&
8 ]& Mfj jej ubs nbfbt neq tc}scqz znmz ubs fbz
> abfzmaz It& Omagqbf2
5 M& Si, E jbf(z tcicidct&
=0 ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs tcicidct xncznct bt fbz ubs
== c{ct zclcpnbfcj It& Omagqbf mkzct It& Gbfezct zblj
=4 ubs, Jbf(z amll nei7 osqz zmlg zb ic2
=1 M& E dclec{c E qpbgc zb It& Omagqbf&
=: ]& Bgmu& Mfj jb ubs gfbx xncf znmz xmq2
=3 M& E dclec{c ez xmq Kcdtsmtu 4=qz bk 4001&
=; ]& Bgmu&
=8 M& E dclec{c&
=> ]& Mfj ubs znefg znmz xmq mkzct Gbfezct zblj
=5 ubs, Jbf(z c{ct amll It& Omagqbf7 osqz abfzmaz
40 ic2
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4= M& Abslj nm{c dccf&
44 ]& Jej ubs zmlg zb It& Gbfezct mkzct nc imjc
41 znmz tc}scqz2
4: M& Ucq, E dclec{c E jej&
43 ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs c{ct qcc nei ef pctqbf mkzct
4; nc imjc znmz tc}scqz zb ubs2
48 M& E dclec{c E jej&
4> ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx xnctc znmz xmq2 88>=
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= M& Ef Qmfzm Ibfeam ef m nbzcl&
4 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, mz qbic pbefz jej ubs lcmtf znmz
1 Xcefct mfj Gbfezct nmj dccf ketcj2
: IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf& Mqqsicq kmazq7
3 ncmtqmu7 kbsfjmzebf&
; ZNC ABSTZ? Qsqzmefcj bf mqqsicq kmazq&
8 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Jej ubs c{ct lcmtf xncznct
> bt fbz Tbf Gbfezct abfzefscj zb dc ef{bl{cj ef It&
5 Omagqbf(q mkkmetq2
=0 M& Mkzct ))
== ]& Znc 40zn&
=4 M& Ucmn& Znmz xmq iu dcleck, znmz nc qzell
=1 abfzefscj&
=: ]& Mfj jej ubs c{ct lcmtf ktbi nei mz mfu pbefz
=3 znmz nc xmq fb lbfhct ef{bl{cj xezn It& Omagqbf(q
=; mkkmetq2
=8 M& Fbz ktbi nei&
=> ]& Jej ubs lcmtf ktbi qbicbfc clqc2
=5 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 ncmtqmu&
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40 ZNC ABSTZ? Qsqzmefcj&
4= IT& ICQCTCMS? Bgmu&
44 ]& Jb ubs tcamll m lmxqsez ef Cfhlmfj znmz xmq
41 kelcj du mzzbtfcuq tcptcqcfzefh It& Omagqbf b{ctznc
4: Dmqnet jbasicfzmtu2
43 M& E nm{c ncmtj mdbsz ez, dsz E({c fc{ct qccf
4; znc lmxqsez ezqclk&
48 ]& Xmq ez ztsc znmz mkzct Dmqnet jej neq
4> kbbzmhc, ubs mqgcj nei zb ptb{ejc ubs abpecq bkneq 88>4
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= kbbzmhc2
4 M& Tcpcmz znmz }scqzebf bfc ibtc zeic2
1 ]& Ucq, E(i qbttu ek ez(q sfalcmt&
: Jej ubs c{ct mqg Dmqnet bt mfu mhcfz bk
3 Dmqnet zb ptb{ejc ubs abpecq bk Dmqnet(q kbbzmhc2
; M& Ucq, E jej&
8 ]& Mfj xncf jej ubs jb znmz2
> M& Znc {ctu ketqz jmu E icz nei&
5 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, ez xmq sfjctqzbbj znmz ubs xctc
=0 hbefh zb jb ubst bxf kbbzmhc mz znc qmic zeic,
== tehnz2
=4 M& Znmz(q )) xcll, znc ketqz jmu&
=1 ]& Dsz ubs xctc mlqb mqgefh Dmqnet zb he{c ubs
=: qbic bk neq kbbzmhc, tehnz2
=3 M& Mll neq kbbzmhc&
=; ]& Mll tehnz& Mfj jej nc tcqpbfj zb ubs2
=8 M& Nc qmej )) nc ptbieqcj nc xell&
=> ]& Jej nc c{ct jb znmz2
=5 M& Fb&
40 ]& Jej ubs mqg nei {ctdmllu bt ef xtezefh7 jb
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4= ubs gfbx2
44 M& [ctdmllu&
41 ]& Mfj znmz xmq kmac zb kmac2
4: M& Znmz xmq kmac zb kmac&
43 ]& Mll tehnz& Mfj xmq znmz mz Fc{ctlmfj2
4; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
48 ]& Bgmu& Mfj xmq znmz dckbtc mfu bk znc
4> keliefh dchmf2 88>1
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= M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4 ]& Fbx, nc fc{ct bdocazcj zb ubs jbefh ubst
1 keliefh, abttcaz2
: M& Nc xmqf(z nmppu, dsz nc nmj fb anbeac&
3 ]& Bgmu& Nbx isan bk Dmqnet(q kbbzmhc ))
; c~asqc ic, lcz ic tcpntmqc znmz&
8 Nbx isan bk znc imzcteml znmz Dmqnet kelicj
> jej ubs keli mq xcll2 Jej ubs keli c{ctuznefh znmz
5 nc kelicj2
=0 M& Fb&
== ]& Bgmu& Xnmz jej ubs mazsmllu keli ubstqclk2
=4 M& Zxb efzct{ecxq mfj bfc qehnzqccefh mz
=1 Fc{ctlmfj&
=: ]& Zb ubst gfbxlcjhc, xnmz jej Dmqnet keli znmz
=3 ubs jejf(z keli ubstqclk2
=; M& Xcll, qefac E xmq fbz ptcqcfz mz mll znc
=8 qcqqebfq znmz It& Dmqnet jej, E tcmllu jbf(z gfbx
=> nbx isan nc qnbz&
=5 ]& Bgmu& Dsz bznct znmf ubst tc}scqz znmz nc
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40 he{c ubs qbic bk neq kbbzmhc, ubs jejf(z pmtzeaepmzc
4= ef mfu lezehmzebf ef{bl{efh Dmqnet, tehnz2
44 M& Lchml lezehmzebf2
41 ]& Ucq&
4: M& Fb&
43 ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubs gfcx lezehmzebf xmq hbefh bf
4; ef Cfhlmfj, jej ubs fbz2
48 M& E nm{c ncmtj ktbi It& Omagqbf(q pctqbfml
4> mqqeqzmfz znmz znctc(q hbefh zb dc m lmxqsez mhmefqz 88>:
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= Imtzef Dmqnet mfj Htmfmjm Z&[& ef tchmtj zb zneq
4 jbasicfzmtu&
1 ]& Bgmu& Jstefh znc keliefh bk znc Mt{eb
: kmielu mz ubst nbic, ubs qmej ubs xctc qbtz bk ef
3 mfj bsz bk znc tbbi xnctc znc keliefh xmq dcefh
; jbfc2
8 M& Xnelc E xmq qczzefh sp, ucmn, E xmq hbefh
> ktbi hmtmhc zb znc plmac xnctc znc efzct{ecx xmq
5 qsppbqcj zb zmgc plmac&
=0 ]& Dsz xnelc znc efzct{ecx xmq mazsmllu
== abfjsazcj, xctc ubs ptcqcfz mz mll zeicq2
=4 M& Jstefh znc keliefh, ucq&
=1 ]& Bgmu& Mfj mpptb~eimzclu nbx lbfh jej znmz
=: keliefh lmqz, ek ubs gfbx2
=3 M& Mpptb~eimzclu mf nbst&
=; ]& Nbx lbfh xctc znc aneljtcf mz ubst nbsqc
=8 dckbtc znc keliefh mazsmllu dchmf, mpptb~eimzclu2
=> M& Zxb zb zntcc nbstq&
=5 ]& Mfj nbx lbfh xmq Omfcz Mt{eb mz ubst nbsqc
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40 dckbtc znc keliefh mazsmllu dchmf2
4= M& Mpptb~eimzclu bfc nbst&
44 ]& Xnb jej znc }scqzebfefh jstefh znc
41 efzct{ecx2
4: M& Anteqzemf Tbdefqbf&
43 ]& Nmj ubs xbtgcj xezn nei dckbtc2
4; M& Ucq&
48 ]& Bgmu& Nbx imfu zeicq nmj ubs xbtgcj xezn
4> Anteqzemf Tbdefqbf dckbtc2 88>3
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= M& Bf bfc ptbocaz&
4 ]& Mll tehnz& Mfj xmq ez ubst sfjctqzmfjefh
1 znmz nc nmj m leqz bk }scqzebfq nc xmq hbefh zb mqg
: jstefh znc efzct{ecx2
3 M& E qmx nei nm{efh m leqz bk }scqzebffmetc,
; ucq&
8 ]& Mfj xmq ez ubst sfjctqzmfjefh znmz nc xmq
> mqgefh }scqzebfq ktbi znc }scqzebffmetc2
5 M& E dclec{c qb&
=0 ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubs bdqct{cj znc Mt{eb kmielu
== tcqpbfjefh zb znbqc }scqzebfq, ztsc2
=4 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=1 ]& Dckbtc znc keliefh dchmf, jej ubs qcc It&
=: Tbdefqbf iccz xezn mfu icidct bk znc Mt{eb kmielu2
=3 M& E(i qstc nc jej& Dsz E jej fbz bdqct{c
=; znmz&
=8 ]& Jej ubs qcc nei hbefh b{ct znc }scqzebfq
=> xezn mfu icidct bk znc Mt{eb kmielu2
=5 M& Abslj nm{c dccf&
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40 ]& Ubs(tc fbz qstc2
4= M& E(i fbz qstc&
44 ]& Bgmu& Zupeamllu xncf ubs keli mf efzct{ecx
41 legc zneq, znc pctqbf jbefh znc efzct{ecx nmq mleqz
4: bk }scqzebfq, abttcaz2
43 M& Ibqz bk znc zeic&
4; ]& Mfj ubs({c kelicj fsictbsq efzct{ecxq legc
48 zneq ef ubst amtcct, tehnz2
4> M& Znmz(q abttcaz& 88>;
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= ]& Bgmu& Jstefh znc zxb zb zntcc nbstq znmz
4 znc Mt{eb aneljtcf xctc mz ubst nbic dckbtc znc
1 efzct{ecx, ubs fc{ct xmzancj znci icibteefh
: mfuznefh, jej ubs2
3 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 tc}setcq
; qpcaslmzebf&
8 ZNC ABSTZ? B{cttslcj&
> Ubs imu mfqxct&
5 ZNC XEZFCQQ? Tcpcmz znmz mhmef&
=0 ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Ucq& Jstefh znc zxb zb
== zntcc nbstq znmz znc Mt{eb aneljtcf xctc mz ubst
=4 nbic ptebt zb znc qzmtz bk znc efzct{ecx, ubs fc{ct
=1 qmx znci icibteefh xbtjq, jej ubs2
=: M& Fb&
=3 ]& Ef kmaz, xnmz ubs qmx znci jbefh xmq ibqzlu
=; plmuefh mfj nm{efh ksf, tehnz2
=8 M& Mq E tcicidct&
=> ]& Dckbtc Omfcz Mt{eb qzmtzcj znc efzct{ecx,
=5 ubs jejf(z xmzan nct icibteefh xbtjq, jej ubs2
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40 M& Fb, E jejf(z&
4= ]& Ubs qmej znmz Omfcz xmq znctc kbt mdbsz mf
44 nbst, tehnz ))
41 M& Mpptb~eimzclu&
4: ]& )) dckbtc znc zmpefh dchmf, bgmu2
43 Mfj E znefg ubs qmej znmz qnc xmq ef m
4; jeqasqqebf mdbsz qbic zupc bk abfztmaz, tehnz2
48 M& E dclec{c znctc xmq m tclcmqc znmz qnc nmj
4> zb qehf& 88>8
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= ]& Bgmu& Mfj xmq qnc zmlgefh zb qbicbfc mdbsz
4 znmz tclcmqc2
1 M& Ucmn&
: ]& Xnb xmq qnc zmlgefh zb, ek ubs gfbx2
3 M& E znefg qnc xmq zmlgefh zb m kcx pcbplc&
; [effec, Anteqzemf Tbdefqbf, mfj pbqqedlu Pmsl&
8 Znctc(q m hcfzlcimf du znc fmic bk Pmsl, E dclec{
c
> ez(q Nshb bt qbicznefh legc znmz& E jbf(z gfbx neq
5 lmqz fmic, dsz ))
=0 ]& Mfj jej ubs qcc m jbasicfz znmz ubs znbshnz
== xmq m abfztmaz bt m tclcmqc2
=4 M& E qmx m jbasicfz, dsz E fc{ct lbbgcj mz ez&
=1 ]& Bgmu& Mfj jej ez mppcmt znmz Omfcz mfj
=: zncqc bznct efje{ejsmlq xctc jeqasqqefh znc
=3 jbasicfz2
=; M& Ucq& Zncu xctc jeqasqqefh znc jbasicfz&
=8 ]& Jej ubs mazsmllu ncmt Omfcz mfj zncqc
=> efje{ejsmlq jeqasqqefh zneq jbasicfz2
=5 M& Jej E ncmt bt qcc2
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40 ]& Ucq& Xcll )) c~asqc ic, lcz ic tcpntmqc&
4= Jej ubs ncmt xnmz ubs dclec{cj xmq m
44 jeqasqqebf dczxccf Omfcz mfj zncqc efje{ejsmlq m
dbsz
41 znmz jbasicfz2
4: M& Ucmn&
43 ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs qcc Omfcz mfj zncqc
4; efje{ejsmlq jeqasqqefh znmz jbasicfz2
48 M& E dclec{c E qmx qbic&
4> ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs c{ct qcc Omfcz bf znc pnbfc 88>>
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= jstefh znmz pctebj bk zeic2
4 M& Abslj nm{c dccf& E(i fbz qstc&
1 ]& Bgmu& Mz qbic pbefz, jej ubs xmzan Omfcz
: qehf znmz jbasicfz2
3 M& E jbf(z tcicidct qccefh nct qehfefh ez& Dsz
; ez xmq zbxmtjq znc cfj bk znc efzct{ecx, mfj E ))iu
8 sfjctqzmfjefh xmq znmz qnc qehfcj ez&
> ]& Bgmu& Mfj abttcaz ic ek E(i xtbfh, dsz jej
5 ubs qmu qbicznefh ucqzctjmu mdbsz znctc dcefh
=0 anmfhcq imjc zb znc jbasicfz2
== M& E dclec{c znctc xmq qbic anmfhcq dcefh imjc
=4 zb znc jbasicfz&
=1 ]& Mfj xnmz imjc ubs dclec{c znmz2
=: M& Dcamsqc [effec mqgcj ic zb sqc iu km~
=3 imanefc qb nc amf km~ qbic jbasicfzq dmag mfj kbtzn
=; E dclec{c xezn Qanmkkcl&
=8 ]& Bgmu& Mfj xnu jej ubs znefg Omfcz mz qbic
=> pbefz qehfcj znc jbasicfz2
=5 M& Dcamsqc znctc xmq fb bznct jeqasqqebf mdbsz
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40 ez&
4= ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs qcc )) dsz ubs fc{ct qmx
44 mfudbju mazsmllu qehf ez, ztsc2
41 M& E jejf(z qcc nct qehf ez&
4: ]& Bgmu& Fbx, jej ubs qmu mz qbic pbefz
43 Qanmkkcl zblj ubs nc jejf(z xmfz znc Mt{ebq zbgfbx
4; xnctc nc le{cj2
48 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4> ]& Jej nc zcll ubs nc xmq qsqpeaebsq bk znc 88>5
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= Mt{ebq2
4 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf7 ncmtqmu&
1 ZNC ABSTZ? Qsqzmefcj&
: ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Jej Qanmkkcl c{ct jeqasqq
3 xezn ubs xnu Ef{cqzehmzbt Dtmj Iellct xmq znctc2
; M& Qanmkkcl neiqclk2
8 ]& Ucq&
> M& Fb&
5 ]& Jej mfubfc clqc znctc c{ct zcll ubs znmz znc
=0 ef{cqzehmzbt xmq ef{cqzehmzefh znc Mt{eb kmielu2
== M& Fb&
=4 ]& Xnmz jej ubs qcc Dtmj Iellct jbefh xnelc znc
=1 zmpefh xcfz bf2
=: M& Xcll, jstefh znc zmpefh E xmq pmuefh
=3 mzzcfzebf zb, ubs gfbx, iu xbtg& Dsz dckbtc znmz,
=; nc xmq xmlgefh mtbsfj iu nbsqc&
=8 ]& Bgmu& Jej nc mppcmt zb dc zmgefh fbzcq mz
=> mll, zb ubst gfbxlcjhc2
=5 M& Jstefh znc keliefh2
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40 ]& Lcz ic qzmtz mhmef&
4= Mz qbic pbefz Iellct mtte{cj mz ubst nbsqc,
44 tehnz2
41 M& Abttcaz&
4: ]& Mfj jej nc gfbag bf znc jbbt2
43 M& Ucq, nc jej&
4; ]& Mfj jej ubs mfqxct znc jbbt2
48 M& Ucq, E jej&
4> ]& Mfj jej nc ejcfzeku xnb nc xmq mz znmz 8850
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= pbefz2
4 M& E qmej, Xnb mtc ubs2 Mfj nc qmej, E(i
1 kbt znc efzct{ecx&
: ]& Bgmu& Jej nc qmu nc xmq m pte{mzc
3 ef{cqzehmzbt2
; M& Fb, nc jej fbz&
8 ]& Jej nc he{c ubs neq amtj2
> M& Fb, nc jej fbz&
5 ]& Bgmu& Mfj xnu jej ubs lcz nei ef2
=0 M& Si, dcamsqc E )) xnu jej E lcz nei ef2 Si,
== E znbshnz nc xmq xezn Imta Qanmkkcl(q pcbplc, mfj
=4 qefac zncu xctc znctc mltcmju, E znbshnz zncu xctc
=1 c~pcazefh nei& Imudc ez(q jcle{ctefh qbicznefh
=: bt )) E jbf(z gfbx& Dsz dcefh gefj mfj pblezc, E
=3 lcz nei ef&
=; ]& Ucq& Bgmu& Qb nc xmq znctc znc xnblc zeic,
=8 mq kmt mq ubs gfbx2
=> M& Ucq&
=5 ]& Jb ubs gfbx xncf nc lckz2
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40 M& Mz znc cfj bk znc efzct{ecx&
4= ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx ek nc lckz xezn mfudbju2
44 M& E jej fbz qcc nei lcm{efh xezn xnb )) xezn
41 mfudbju&
4: ]& Jej ubs c{ct qcc nei tcabtjefh mfuznefh ef
43 ubst nbsqc2
4; M& Fb, E jej fbz qcc nei tcabtjefh mfuznefh&
48 ]& Jej ubs c{ct qcc nei xtezefh mfuznefh jbxf2
4> M& E jej fbz& Abslj nm{c dccf& E jbf(z gfbx& 885=
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= ]& Mfj jej ubs c{ct qcc nei pnbzbhtmpnefh
4 mfuznefh xnelc nc xmq ef ubst nbsqc, zb ubst
1 gfbxlcjhc2
: M& Fbz zb iu gfbxlcjhc&
3 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, xncf Omfcz )) c~asqc ic&
; Dckbtc Omfcz Mt{eb xmq kelicj, qnc sqcj
8 ubst tcqz tbbi mfj dchmf zb mpplu nct bxf imgcsp,
> tehnz2
5 M& Qnc sqcj iu ))
=0 ]& Tcqz tbbi ))
== M& Ucmn&
=4 ]& )) mfj mpplecj nct bxf imgcsp kbt znc
=1 keliefh, abttcaz2
=: M& E dclec{c qb&
=3 ]& Mfj ubs fc{ct qmx mfudbju abmanefh Omfcz bf
=; xnmz zb qmu, abttcaz2
=8 M& Fb, E jej fbz&
=> ]& Ubs fc{ct qmx mfubfc abmanefh znc aneljtcf
=5 bf xnmz zb qmu ef znc efzct{ecx, tehnz2
40 M& E jej fbz qcc mfuznefh&
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4= ]& E dclec{c ubs zcqzekecj ucqzctjmu znmz, ef
44 ubst bpefebf, Omfcz Mt{eb nmj m ptbdlci xezn m
41 jtmkz abfztmaz, tehnz2
4: IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Bdocazebf zb znc sqc bk
43 znc xbtj abfztmaz&
4; IT& ICQCTCMS? Xcll, E(ll anmfhc znc )) E(ll
48 tcpntmqc ez&
4> ]& Ubs tcamll Omfcz lbbgefh mz m zntcc)pmhc 8854
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4 M& E fc{ct ))
1 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? E(ll imgc znc qmic
: bdocazebf&
3 ZNC ABSTZ? Qsqzmefcj&
; ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Jej ubs c{ct zcll m
8 tcptcqcfzmze{c bk znc Qmfzm Dmtdmtm Qnctekk(q
> Jcpmtzicfz jstefh mf efzct{ecx znmz [effec dtbshnz m
5 zntcc)pmhc fbfjeqalbqstc abfztmaz kbt Omfcz zb qehf2
=0 IT& MSANEFALBQQ? Amllq kbt m lchml bpefebf&
== ZNC ABSTZ? Fb, nc(q mqgefh ek nc zblj znc
=4 qnctekk znmz, qb znc bdocazebf eq b{cttslcj&
=1 Ubs imu mfqxct&
=: ZNC XEZFCQQ? E jbf(z tcicidct dcefh qb
=3 qpcaekea mdbsz zntcc)pmhc bt fbfjeqalbqstc
=; mhtccicfz& Ek E nmj qmej mfuznefh mdbsz znmz,
=8 mdbsz znmz jbasicfz, ez xbslj nm{c dccf m tclcmqc&
=> E jbf(z tcicidct qmuefh znmz ez xmq m zntcc)pmhc
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= }scqzebf&
4 ]& Nm{c ubs nmj m anmfac zb tc{ecx znmz
1 jbasicfz2
: M& Fb, E fc{ct nm{c, znmz jbasicfz&
3 ]& Nm{c ubs nmj m anmfac zb tc{ecx znc jbasicfz
; znmz E osqz qnbxcj ubs2
8 M& Fb, E jej fbz, E fc{ct bdzmefcj znmz
> jbasicfz znmz ubs osqz qnbxcj ic&
5 ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs osqz lbbg mz znmz jbasicfz2
=0 M& E lbbgcj mz znmz jbasicfz& E jb fbz
== tcicidct qmuefh zntcc pmhcq fbfabfkejcfzemlezu
=4 abfztmaz&
=1 ]& Bgmu& Bgmu& Fbx, [effec mz qbic pbefz
=: mqgcj ubs zb qehf m jbasicfz, jej nc fbz2
=3 M& E dclec{c qb&
=; ]& Mfj ubs tcksqcj zb qehf m jbasicfz ptcqcfzcj
=8 zb ubs du [effec, abttcaz2
=> M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=5 ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx xnmz znmz jbasicfz
40 abfactfcj2
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4= M& Znmz xmq m zntcc)pmhc fbf )) m
44 abfkejcfzemlezu jbasicfz, xnean nc lckz ez mz znc
41 nbsqc&
4: ]& Znc KB^ Z[ qpcaeml, Znc Kbbzmhc Ubs Xctc
43 Fc{ct Icmfz Zb Qcc, mppcmtcj bf Kcdtsmtu 40zn,
4; 4001, bf zclc{eqebf, tehnz2
48 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4> ]& Jej ubs xmzan znmz qnbx2 885:
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40 E(i fbz xtbfh&
4= ]& Jb ubs tcicidct icczefh qbicbfc fmicj Cj
44 Dtmjlcu mz Fc{ctlmfj2
41 M& Ucq&
4: ]& Mfj jb ubs tcicidct icczefh It& LcHtmfj bf
43 znmz jmu2
4; M& Ucq&
48 ]& Jb ubs tcicidct icczefh bznct pcbplc ktbi
4> ADQ bf znmz jmu2 8853
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= M& Ucq&
4 ]& Mfj xnu xctc ubs mz Fc{ctlmfj bf Kcdtsmtu
1 >zn, 40012
: M& E xmq znctc mq m pctqbfml JP, xnean qzmfjq
3 kbt Jetcazbt bk Pnbzbhtmpnu, kbt It& Omagqbf, kbt
; neq lehnzefh mfj znc lbbg bk neq peazstc&
8 ]& Xmq mfuznefh kelicj bf Kcdtsmtu >zn, 40012
> M& E jbf(z dclec{c qb&
5 ]& Jb ubs gfbx xnu2
=0 M& Fb&
== ]& Bgmu& Nbx lbfh xctc ubs znctc znmz jmu, ek
=4 ubs tcicidct2
=1 M& M kcx nbstq&
=: ]& Jb ubs tcicidct qccefh Omfcz Mt{eb znctc
=3 znmz jmu2
=; M& E jbf(z tcicidct&
=8 ]& Xbslj ez tcktcqn ubst tcabllcazebf osqz zb
=> lbbg mz znc pbleac tcpbtz qsiimtu bk ubst efzct{ecx2
=5 M& Qstc&
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40 IT& ICQCTCMS? Imu E mpptbman, Ubst Nbfbt2
4= ZNC ABSTZ? Ucq&
44 ZNC XEZFCQQ? E jbf(z tcicidct imgefh znmz
41 qzmzcicfz mdbsz Omfcz&
4: ]& DU IT& ICQCTCMS? Nbx imfu zeicq jb ubs
43 znefg ubs nm{c qccf Omfcz Mt{eb mz Fc{ctlmfj2
4; M& E xbslj qmu zxb bt zntcc zeicq&
48 ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx mpptb~eimzclu xncf2
4> M& Mz {mtebsq zeicq& 885;
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= ]& Bgmu& Mpptb~eimzclu xncf jb ubs znefg znc
4 ketqz zeic ubs qmx Omfcz Mt{eb mz Fc{ctlmfj xmq2
1 M& Dczxccf 4000 mfj 4001& Ez abslj nm{c dccf
: 400=& E jbf(z gfbx&
3 ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs iccz nct kbt znc ketqz zeic
; xncf znc ;0 Iefszcq atcx xmq mz Fc{ctlmfj2
8 M& E jbf(z tcicidct qccefh nct znmz jmu&
> ]& Bgmu& Xncf jb ubs znefg ubs ketqz qmx nct,
5 c{ct2
=0 M& Ez abslj nm{c )) mhmef, ez(q dczxccf znc
== ucmt 4000 mfj 4004, E xbslj qmu& Ez abslj )) legc
=4 mpptb~eimzclu 400=& E jbf(z gfbx&
=1 ]& Mfj xmq ubst ketqz icczefh xezn nct mz
=: Fc{ctlmfj, zb ubst gfbxlcjhc2
=3 M& Ucq&
=; ]& Bgmu& Mfj jb ubs tcamll xncznct bt fbz nct
=8 aneljtcf xctc znctc xncf ubs icz nct znc ketqz zeic2
=> M& E znefg zncu xctc&
=5 ]& Bgmu& Mfj ubs efjeamzcj ef tcqpbfqc zb znc
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40 ptbqcaszbt(q }scqzebfq ubs jc{clbpcj m ktecfjqnep
4= xezn znc Mt{eb kmielu2
44 M& Xcll, mq E qmej, ef znc ucmt 4000, E jej zxb
41 ptbocazq znmz Mt{eb gejq, Jm{ej bt Qzmt mfj Hm{ef,
4: xctc ef{bl{cj& Bfc bk znc ptbocaz E xmq jetcazefh&
43 Mfj xeznef znmz ptbocaz E nmj m lbz bk abf{ctqmzebfq
4; mfj efzctmazebfq xezn Jm{ej mfj Hm{ef& Qb E gefjbk
48 hbz zb gfbx znci&
4> ]& Jej ubs qzmu ef zbsan xezn znci bf m qbaeml 8858
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= lc{cl2
4 M& Fb&
1 ]& Xncf ubs xctcf(z zmlgefh zb znci mz
: Fc{ctlmfj, jej ubs amll znci bf znc pnbfc2
3 M& Ktbi Fc{ctlmfj, amllefh znci2
; ]& Lcz ic tcpntmqc ez& E(ll mqg m dczzct
8 }scqzebf&
> Mqejc ktbi znc efqzmfacq xnctc ubs qmx znci
5 ef pctqbf, jej ubs nm{c m tclmzebfqnep xnctc ubs
=0 xbslj amll znci ktbi zeic zb zeic2
== M& E jbf(z znefg qb&
=4 ]& Jej zncu amll ubs ktbi zeic zb zeic2
=1 M& E jbf(z znefg qb&
=: ]& Bgmu& Qb ubst bflu ef{bl{cicfz xezn znci
=3 xmq ceznct mz Fc{ctlmfj bt xncf zncu amic zb ubst
=; nbic7 eq znmz tehnz2
=8 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=> ]& Ubs jejf(z qcc znci jstefh ubst ztepq zb
=5 Klbtejm, tehnz2
40 M& Fb, E jejf(z&
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4= ]& Bgmu& Fbx, ubs efjeamzcj znmz ubs nmj icz
44 bfc bk Imtlbf Dtmfjb(q qbfq7 eq znmz abttcaz2
41 M& Ucq&
4: ]& Mfj xnb jej ubs iccz znmz xmq m qbf bk
43 Imtlbf Dtmfjb2
4; M& Iegb Dtmfjb&
48 ]& Mfj xncf jej ubs ketqz iccz nei2
4> M& &58, &5>& 885>
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= ]& Jej ubs qcc nei bkzcf mz Fc{ctlmfj2
4 M& Qbiczeicq&
1 ]& Xmq ez ubst sfjctqzmfjefh znmz nc xmq m
: ktecfj bk Ieanmcl Omagqbf2
3 M& Ktecfj mfj mqqbaemzc&
; ]& Bgmu& Mfj xncf jej ubs lmqz qcc nei2
8 M& Lmqz zeic, cfj bk Kcdtsmtu bk 4001&
> ]& Bgmu& Fbx, ubs jej mf efzct{ecx xezn m
5 xbimf fmicj Jcddec Tbxc, jejf(z ubs2
=0 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
== ]& Mfj znmz xmq kbbzmhc znmz ubs kelicj kbt
=4 pstpbqcq bk znc tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu, tehnz2
=1 M& Mz znc zeic E jbf(z znefg znctc xmq m
=: tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu& Iu sfjctqzmfjefh xmq qnc xmq
=3 tcqpbfjefh zb qbic bk znc abiicfzq znmz Dmqnet imjc
=; bf neq jbasicfzmtu&
=8 ]& Mfj znmz efzct{ecx zbbg plmac mz ubst nbic,
=> abttcaz2
=5 M& Fb&
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40 ]& Xnctc jej znmz zmgc plmac2
4= M& Mz Imta Qanmkkcl(q nbsqc ef Amlmdmqmq&
44 ]& Bn, bgmu& Bgmu& Jb ubs gfbx mpptb~eimzclu
41 xncf znmz efzct{ecx zbbg plmac2
4: M& E dclec{c cmtlu Kcdtsmtu 4001&
43 ]& Qb ez zbbg plmac dckbtc ubs kelicj znc
4; Mt{eb kmielu, tehnz2
48 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4> ]& Jej ubs iccz Iq& Tbxc mz Imta Qanmkkcl(q 8855
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= nbsqc2
4 M& E icz nct mz )) xcll, fbz kbt znc ketqz
1 zeic, dsz, ucmn, E qmx nct&
: ]& Dsz xncf ubs kelicj nct kbt pstpbqcq bk
3 tcqpbfjefh zb znc Dmqnet jbasicfzmtu, ubs ztm{clcj
; zb Qanmkkcl(q nbic, abttcaz2
8 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
> ]& Mfj xncf ubs hbz znctc, xmq Jcddec Tbxc
5 ptcqcfz2
=0 M& Bt qnc amic mkzctxmtjq&
== ]& Ubs jejf(z dtefh nct znctc, tehnz2
=4 M& Fb&
=1 ]& Qb ubst sfjctqzmfjefh bf Kcdtsmtu 40zn xmq
=: znmz Qanmkkcl nmj fb ptbdlci xezn Jcddec Tbxc
=3 gfbxefh xnctc nc le{cj, dsz nc jejf(z xmfz znc
=; Mt{ebq zb gfbx xnctc nc le{cj, tehnz2
=8 M& Znmz abslj dc qb, ucmn&
=> ]& Dsz nc fc{ct zblj ubs xnu nc jejf(z xmfz znc
=5 Mt{ebq zb gfbx xnctc neq nbsqc xmq2
40 M& Fb&
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4= ]& Fbx, ez xmq fb qcatcz znmz znc pstpbqc bk
44 znc tcdszzml jbasicfzmtu xmq zb psz It& Omagqbfef m
41 pbqeze{c lehnz, tehnz2
4: M& Qstc&
43 ]& C{ctubfc gfcx znmz xmq znc pstpbqc, tehnz2
4; M& Ucmn&
48 ]& Ez xmq icmfz zb dc m tcqpbfqc zb znc Dmqnet
4> jbasicfzmtu, tehnz2 8>00
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= M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4 ]& Ez xmq icmfz zb qnbx znefhq znmz Dmqnet nmj
1 lckz bsz bk neq jbasicfzmtu znmz xctc pbqeze{c mdbsz
: Ieanmcl, tehnz2
3 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
; ]& Ubs mazsmllu nmj {blsfzcctcj zb ptb{ejc
8 kbbzmhc znmz Dmqnet nmj lckz bsz bk neq qnbx, tehnz2
> M& Jej E {blsfzcct2
5 ]& Ucq& Ez xmq pmtzlu ubst ejcm zb efalsjc
=0 ubst kbbzmhc ef znc tcqpbfqc zb Dmqnet, tehnz2
== M& Si ))
=4 ]& Lcz ic tcpntmqc ez ek ez(q sfalcmt&
=1 M& Plcmqc&
=: ]& Mz qbic pbefz kbllbxefh znc metefh bk
=3 Dmqnet, ubs amic kbtxmtj mfj qmej, E nm{c kbbzmhc
=; bk xnmz pbqeze{c znefhq Dmqnet qmej mdbsz Ieanmcl,
=8 tehnz2
=> M& Zneq, E dclec{c, xmq ptebt zb znc metefh ez&
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=5 Ptebt zb znc metefh znc MDA {ctqebf bk Imtzef Dmqnet
40 ef znc Sfezcj Qzmzcq&
4= ]& Ucq& Bgmu& Lcz ic tcqzmzc znc }scqzebf&
44 Ubs qmx znc Dmqnet jbasicfzmtu mz qbic
41 pbefz, tehnz2
4: M& Mz bfc pbefz, ucq&
43 ]& Xncf ubs qmx ez, ubs tcmlecj nc nmj lckz
4; bsz m lbz bk kbbzmhc xnctc nc ptmeqcq Ieanmcl
48 Omagqbf, tehnz2
4> M& Fb& 8>0=
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= ]& Xcll, nc nmj kbbzmhc xnctc nc ptmeqcj
4 Ieanmcl Omagqbf kbt dcefh m hbbj pmtcfz, tehnz2
1 M& Xcll, E icmf, lcz ic abttcaz ))
: ]& Qstc&
3 M& Bgmu& Znc zeiefh bk nbx ubs(tc pszzefh ez
; eq gefj bk bkk&
8 ]& Bn, bgmu&
> M& E xmq zblj du It& Omagqbf(q pctqbfml
5 mqqeqzmfz mz bfc pbefz, dckbtc zneq jbasicfzmtu,znc
=0 MDA {ctqebf bk znc Imtzef Dmqnet xmq metcj ef Sfezcj
== Qzmzcq7 znmz Imtzef Dmqnet eq hbefh zb met neq b
xf
=4 {ctqebf ef Lbfjbf zntbshn DDA, E dclec{c& Mz znmz
=1 pbefz E dtbshnz sp znc kmaz znmz E nm{c qbic kbbzmhc
=: bk znc dcnefj znc qacfcq& Qb mz znmz zeic E nm{c
=3 fbz qccf znc Imtzef Dmqnet kbbzmhc ucz&
=; ]& Bgmu&
=8 M& Mi E alcmt2
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=> ]& Mz znmz pmtzeaslmt zeic, ubs xctc znc bflu
=5 bfc znmz nmj m abpu bk ubst kbbzmhc, tehnz2
40 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4= ]& Bgmu& Mfj jej ubs zmlg zb tcptcqcfzmze{cq
44 bk KB^ mdbsz efalsjefh ubst kbbzmhc ef znc KB^
41 jbasicfzmtu2
4: M& Fb&
43 ]& Bgmu& Xnb jej ubs zmlg zb mdbsz efalsjefh
4; ubst kbbzmhc ef znmz qnbx2
48 M& Xcll, zneq eq nbx ez nmppcfcj? E zmlgcj zb
4> It& )) Ieqq C{{u Zm{mqae, xnean eq It& Omagqbf(q8>04
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= pctqbfml mqqeqzmfz& E efkbticj nct znmz E nm{c
4 kbbzmhc bk znc dcnefj)znc)qacfc mfj bznct kbbzmhcbk
1 znc efzct{ecx&
: ]& Sn)nsn&
3 M& Mfj E bkkctcj nct zb lbbg mz ez& Mfj qnc
; tcksqcj& Qnc qmej, Ez(q bgmu& Jbf(z xbttu& It&
8 Omagqbf nmq bdzmefcj lmxuctq mfj zncu(tc hbefh zb
> zmgc amtc bk zneq imzzct&
5 E zbbg znc kbbzmhc xezn m {ejcb amictm mfj m
=0 plmu)dmag imanefc zb znc bkkeac bk Ieqq Zm{mqaezb
== qnbx nct xnmz E nm{c& Qnc qzell tcksqcj zb lbbgmz
=4 znci, mfj qnc efjeamzcj znmz E qnbslj fbz dc xbttecj
=1 mdbsz ez, mfj It& Omagqbf(q lmxuctq xell nmfjlcznc
=: qezsmzebf&
=3 Zncf ))
=; ]& Mfj xnmz jej ubs jb fc~z2
=8 M& Fc~z, E dclec{c E qpbgc zb It& Omagqbf mfj
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=> nc mqgcj ic zb amll Jeczct ))
=5 ]& Bgmu&
40 M& )) mdbsz znc imzzct&
4= ]& Tehnz&
44 M& E qpbgc zb Jeczct, mfj E zblj nei xnmz E
41 nm{c, mfj nc efkbticj ic znmz E(i hbefh zb hb zb
4: Klbtejm kbt mfbznct zupc bk keliefh, mfj xc(tc h
befh
43 zb jeqasqq zneq imzzct xezn nei&
4; ]& Mfj ez xmq mkzct znmz znmz ubs klcx zb
48 Klbtejm, tehnz2
4> M& Ucq& 8>01
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= ]& Mfj ubs klcx zb Klbtejm c~pcazefh zb jb qbic
4 keliefh, tehnz2
1 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
: ]& Mfj mz qbic pbefz ef Klbtejm ubs lcmtfcj
3 znmz znctc xmq m anmfhc bk plmfq mfj znctc xbsljdc
; fb keliefh7 eq znmz abttcaz2
8 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
> ]& Nbx lbfh xctc ubs ef Klbtejm kbt znmz ztep2
5 M& E znefg m jmu, bfc jmu imudc&
=0 ]& Jb ubs gfbx mpptb~eimzclu xncf znmz xmq2
== M& E jbf(z nm{c iu tcabtjq nctc& Dsz E dclec{c
=4 ez(q legc Kcdtsmtu ;zn mfj 8zn& Qbicznefh legc
=1 znmz&
=: ]& Jb ubs tcicidct ncmtefh mfuznefh mdbsz m
=3 ptcqq abfkctcfac znmz xmq amfacllcj ef Klbtejm2
=; M& Jej E ncmt znmz znctc xmq m ptcqq abfkctcfac
=8 znmz xmq amfacllcj2
=> ]& Ucq&
=5 M& Fb&
40 ]& Bgmu& Jb ubs tcamll mfu zmlg mdbsz m ptcqq
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4= abfkctcfac ef Klbtejm2
44 M& E mqgcj xnmz eq znc pstpbqc bk zneq
41 keliefh ))
4: ]& Ucq&
43 M& )) mfj zncu fc{ct he{c ic m qpcaekea mfqxct&
4; Dsz iu sfjctqzmfjefh xmq znmz ez abslj nm{c dccf
48 ceznct m ptcqq abfkctcfac bt m tcqpbfqc ef m {ejcb
4> kbtimz ktbi It& Omagqbf zb Imtzef Dmqnet 8>0:
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= jbasicfzmtu&
4 ]& Bgmu& Fbx, nbx lbfh mkzct ubs hbz zb
1 Klbtejm jej ubs kefj bsz znctc xmq m anmfhc bk
: plmfq mfj ubs xctc fbz hbefh zb dc keliefh
3 mfuznefh2
; M& E znefg nbstq mkzct znmz&
8 ]& Bgmu& Jej ubs qpcfj znc fehnz ef Klbtejm bf
> znmz ztep2
5 M& Ucq, E jej&
=0 ]& Xnctc jej ubs qzmu2
== M& Mz znc nbzcl&
=4 ]& Znc Zstfdcttu2
=1 M& E jbf(z tcicidct znc fmic bk znc nbzcl&
=: ]& Bgmu& Mfj jej ubs klu dmag bf ubst bxf znc
=3 fc~z jmu2
=; M& Ucq&
=8 ]& Bgmu& Mfj xncf ubs xctc ef Klbtejm kbt znmz
=> ztep, jej ubs qcc It& Omagqbf2
=5 M& Fb&
40 ]& Jej ubs qcc mfu bk znc Mt{ebq2
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4= M& Fb&
44 ]& Jej ubs qcc Anteq Zsagct2
41 M& Fb&
4: ]& Jej ubs qcc Jeczct bt Gbfezct2
43 M& Ucq&
4; ]& Mfj xnctc jej ubs qcc znci2
48 M& Ef zncet tbbi&
4> ]& Bgmu& 8>03
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= ZNC ABSTZ? Bgmu, Absfqcl& Lcz(q zmgc m dtcmg&
4 .Tcacqq zmgcf&%
1 ))b0b))
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= TCPBTZCT(Q ACTZEKEAMZC
4
1
: ZNC PCBPLC BK ZNC QZMZC %
3 BK AMLEKBTFEM, %
; Plmefzekk, %
8 ){q) % Fb& ==11;01
> IEANMCL OBC OMAGQBF, %
5 Jckcfjmfz& %
=0
==
=4 E, IEANCLC IMZZQBF IaFCEL, TPT, ATT,
=1 AQT !110:, Bkkeaeml Abstz Tcpbtzct, jb nctcdu
=: actzeku?
=3 Znmz znc kbtchbefh pmhcq 8834 zntbshn 8>0;
=; abfzmef m ztsc mfj abttcaz ztmfqatepz bk znc
=8 ptbaccjefhq nmj ef znc xeznef mfj mdb{c)cfzezlcj
=> imzzct mq du ic zmgcf jbxf ef qnbtznmfj xtezefhmz
=5 qmej ptbaccjefhq bf Mptel 48, 4003, mfj znctcmkzct
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40 tcjsacj zb zupcxtezefh du abipszct)mejcj
4= ztmfqatepzebf sfjct iu jetcazebf&
44 JMZCJ? Qmfzm Imtem, Amlekbtfem,
41 Mptel 48, 4003&
4:
43
4;
48 IEANCLC IMZZQBF IaFCEL, TPT, ATT, AQT !110:
4> 8>08
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= QSPCTEBT ABSTZ BK ZNC QZMZC BK AMLEKBTFEM
4 EF MFJ KBT ZNC ABSFZU BK QMFZM DMTDMTM
1 QMFZM IMTEM DTMFAN7 ABBG QZTCCZ JE[EQEBF
: JCPMTZICFZ QI)4 NBF& TBJFCU Q& ICL[ELLC, OSJHC
3
;
8 ZNC PCBPLC BK ZNC QZMZC BK %
> AMLEKBTFEM, %
5 Plmefzekk, %
=0 ){q) % Fb& ==11;01
== IEANMCL OBC OMAGQBF, %
=4 Jckcfjmfz& %
=1
=:
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=8 TCPBTZCT(Q ZTMFQATEPZ BK PTBACCJEFHQ
=>
=5 XCJFCQJMU, MPTEL 48, 4003
40
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4= >?10 M&I&
44
41 .PMHCQ 8>0> ZNTBSHN 858=%
4:
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4;
48 TCPBTZCJ IEANCLC IMZZQBF IaFCEL, TPT, ATT, AQT !110:
4> DU? Bkkeaeml Abstz Tcpbtzct 8>0>
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= MPPCMTMFACQ BK ABSFQCL?
4
1 Kbt Plmefzekk? ZNBIMQ X& QFCJJBF, OT&,
: Jeqzteaz Mzzbtfcu )mfj)
3 TBFMLJ O& _BFCF, Qt& Jcpszu Jeqzteaz Mzzbtfcu
; )mfj) HBTJBF MSANEFALBQQ,
8 Qt& Jcpszu Jeqzteaz Mzzbtfcu )mfj)
> IMH FEABLM, Qt& Jcpszu Jeqzteaz Mzzbtfcu
5 ===4 Qmfzm Dmtdmtm Qztccz Qmfzm Dmtdmtm, Amlekbtfem 51=0=
=0
==
=4 Kbt Jckcfjmfz? ABLLEFQ, ICQCTCMS, TCJJBAG + US
=1 DU? ZNBIMQ M& ICQCTCMS, OT&, CQ]& )mfj)
=: QSQMF A& US, CQ]& =>83 Acfzstu Pmtg Cmqz, Qsezc800
=3 Lbq Mfhclcq, Amlekbtfem 500;8
=; )mfj)
=8 QMFHCT + QXUQCF DU? TBDCTZ I& QMFHCT, CQ]&
=> 411 Cmqz Amttellb Qztccz, Qsezc A Qmfzm Dmtdmtm,Amlekbtfem 51=0=
=5
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= C ^ N E D E Z Q
4 KBT EF PLMEFZEKK(Q FB& JCQATEPZEBF E&J& C[EJ&
1
: :3= Pmaekea Dcll tcabtjq 8>5; 8>5>
3 :34 Z)Ibdelc tcabtjq 8>8> 8>>1
; :31 MZ+Z Xetclcqq tcabtjq 854: 854>
8 :3: Aefhslmt Xetclcqq Tcabtjq 854: 854>
> :3; [ctebf Xetclcqq qsdqatedct efkbtimzebf 85=385=5
5 >30 Met)zb)htbsfj zclcpnbfc
=0 dell ktbi 4)8)01 8>31 8>33
== >3= Km~ ktbi Nmlc Lmfc jmzcj 4)4=)01 8>:4 8>30
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=; 3005)M J[J 8>=4
=8 3005)D J[J 8>=4
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=5 30=0 J[J 8>=4
40
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=5 imtgcj mq 30=0&
40 Qb xc(j osqz legc znc tcabtj zb tcklcaz
4= znmz, ek xc amf, Ubst Nbfbt, ketqz bk mll&
44 ZNC ABSTZ? Mll tehnz&
41 IT& QMFHCT? Fbx, nm{efh qmej znmz, xc xbslj
4: legc )) mq m pmtz bk znc atbqq)c~miefmzebf bk zneq
43 xezfcqq, xc xbslj legc zb plmu C~nedez 3005)M, )D
4; mfj )A, xnean mtc znc bszzmgcq bt It& Ibqlcne(q
48 kbbzmhc bk znc Dmqnet efzct{ecxq& Mfj zncu(tc
4> bkkctcj kbt znc pstpbqc bk qnbxefh znc abfzc~z mfj 8>=4
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=> tehnz fbx xmq znc mjieqqedelezu bk zneq, qb E mqgcj
=5 znc dmelekk zb mqg Ubst Nbfbt zb abic bsz qb xc
40 abslj zmlg mdbsz ))
4= ZNC ABSTZ? E mltcmju tslcj znmz ez xmqf(z
44 mjieqqedlc ef znc jetcaz pmtz bk znc Pcbplc(q amqc,
41 dcamsqc znc Dmqnet amqc )) znc Dmqnet zmpc xmq
4: efztbjsacj kbt znc leiezcj pstpbqc bk qnbxefh znmz
43 It& Omagqbf nmj qbic ibze{c zb dc jbefh actzmefmazq
4; znmz znc Pcbplc almeicj znmz nc jej, mfj ez nmj
48 fbznefh zb jb xezn znc ztszn bk znc imzzct ef zn
c
4> zmpc, mlznbshn znc zmpc xmq mjiezzcj sfjct actzmef 8>=1
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= aetasiqzmfacq kbt znc ztszn bk znc imzzct&
4 Qb ubst tc}scqz eq jcfecj& Znmz(q znc
1 qcabfj zeic E({c jcfecj ez&
: Mll tehnz& Lcz(q dtefh ef znc ostu&
3 IT& QMFHCT? Ubst Nbfbt, abslj E ))
; ZNC ABSTZ? Fb&
8 IT& QMFHCT? E jbf(z icmf zb mthsc )) bgmu&
>
5 .Znc kbllbxefh ptbaccjefhq xctc nclj ef
=0 bpcf abstz ef znc ptcqcfac mfj ncmtefh bk znc
== ostu?%
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=1 ZNC ABSTZ? Ubs imu ptbaccj&
=: IT& ICQCTCMS? Znmfg ubs, Ubst Nbfbt&
=3 ]& It& Ibqlcne, E dclec{c ubs zcqzekecj znmz
=; ubs nmj mpptb~eimzclu qe~ bt qc{cf icczefhq xeznznc
=8 Mt{eb kmielu mz {mtebsq zeicq& Jbcq znmz qbsfj
=> tehnz2
=5 M& Mpptb~eimzclu&
40 ]& Bgmu& Mfj E dclec{c ubs zcqzekecj znmz
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= jeqasqqcj ubst {mtebsq jeqasqqebfq xezn Omfcz,
4 abttcaz2
1 M& Abslj ubs tcktcqn iu icibtu2
: ]& Qstc& Qstc& Imudc E(i fbz dcefh alcmt&
3 Ef ubst efzct{ecxq xezn tcptcqcfzmze{cq bk
; znc Qmfzm Dmtdmtm Qnctekk(q Jcpmtzicfz, ubs nm{c
8 jeqasqqcj abf{ctqmzebfq ubs nmj xezn znc Mt{ebq,
> abttcaz2
5 M& Omfcz mfj znc gejq2
=0 ]& Ucq&
== M& Ucmn&
=4 ]& Mfj ef ubst jeqasqqebfq xezn tcptcqcfzmze{cq
=1 bk znc ptbqcaszebf, ubs nm{c jeqasqqcj abf{ctqmzebfq
=: ubs nmj xezn znc Mt{ebq, tehnz2
=3 M& Qstc&
=; ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb zcll ubs qnc
=8 znbshnz qnc xmq hbefh zb dc istjctcj, tehnz2
=> M& Fb&
=5 ]& Qnc fc{ct qmej znmz zb ubs, tehnz2
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40 M& Fb&
4= ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb zcll ubs znctc
44 xctc jcmzn zntcmzq bf qnc mfj nct kmielu, tehnz2
41 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
4: ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb zcll ubs qnc bt
43 nct kmielu xctc dcefh kmlqclu eipteqbfcj, tehnz2
4; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
48 ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb c{ct abiplmef zb
4> ubs znmz It& Omagqbf xmq he{efh mlabnbl zb nct 8>=3
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= aneljtcf, tehnz2
4 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
1 ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb c{ct abiplmef zb
: ubs znmz It& Omagqbf xmq eiptbpctlu zbsanefh mfubk
3 nct aneljtcf, tehnz2
; M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
8 ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb zcll ubs nct
> aneljtcf xctc dcefh mdsqcj du It& Omagqbf, tehnz2
5 M& Znmz(q abttcaz&
=0 ]& Mz fb zeic jej Omfcz Mt{eb mqg ubs zb amll
== znc pbleac bf nct dcnmlk,