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PEST ANIMAL CONTROL SUBMISSION Noeline Franklin Brindabella NSW. This illustrated submission is in 4 parts because of internet restrictions please reassemble when received.

MAIN POINTS Up to $50B in losses from lost sheep population in NSW *NSW used to run safely 55+ million sheep when dingo were declared noxious animals over all titles. Wildlife was recovered abundance and diverse. Bushfire

was an inconvenience not a mass extinction event followed by no water and incinerated forests. The 3000 giga litres reformed off the Murray basin irrigators left destitute after the alpine inferno canopy 2002-9 because of soil con policies destocking the alps cost NSW $48+ billion a year in produce fed to tourists, retail and export. Sheep ecoservices are not understood by fanatics recruited to the environmental movement waxing lyrical about what sheep achieved for the environment in results for biodiversity and beauty but no idea how it happened. Today NSWs sheep population has dropped 28M to 27M and many of these flocks pilfered by packs of free roaming killer dogs sourced from public lands. Perhaps deliberately fester there because some ill informed demigod of the environmental movement said “sheep threaten wilderness.” Sheep are native to the Sierra Nevada and Central alps of Asia 10000 feet above any alpine ecology Australia could offer. These areas some of the world most biodiverse plant communities coevolving with sheep for millions of years. When the Californian gold rush shot

out the sheep for rations the Californian redwood forests began to burn down from dysfunctional ungrazed understorey. In todays prices these sheep forcibly destocked off NSW, alone, have a renewable earning capacity of $4.7 billion farm gate or $38 billion retail and export returns. We will not mention their ecoservices to weed control forest and

fire safety they contribute producing wool meat skins and maintaining a presence for farming communities retaining biodiversity and water catchment values never mentioned. How renewable wool insulates people and houses saving carbon emissions. Some farmers value sheep ecoservices to blackberry control at $20 per sheep per year. Potentially $580M a year as weed and fire control converted to product. Avoiding a lot of imported chemical remedies, labour and tractor fuel. Others say sheep and fireweed control is worth 70c a kilo of beef produced on the coast where this weed is invasive. Then there are calves, foals, wildlife, goats that have been butchered and damned by these dogs as well. Piled driven through fences displaced and destroyed pasture budgets and crops. Much of the high rainfall coastal and tableland areas of NSW are now forcibly destocked and farm families destitute or dismissed as unviable. Well done NSW. More industries killed off, biodiversity needlessly lost. $65+M a year in fire fighting and damage largely avoidable. Australia’s clothing industry and woollen mills no longer exists

harassed into oblivion by environmental regulations and OH&S stunts.

Top heavy bureaucracies soak massive budgets for little result * Bureaucracies appear to be self serving on the matter of pest animals among other issues not part of the scope of this enquiry. The restructure of DPI CMA and farmer funded LHPA/RLPB was a disgraceful process excluding the farm sector

with pest animal management and the confiscation of travelling stock routes drought aid grazing options two major sources of unrest. The PPB RLPB LHPA system having its origins back in 1835! A very long history of farmer commitment. Asset stripped in 2013. Brumbies camel donkey water buffalo are

set up for massacres by hoof hating fanatics and adrenaline junkies in helicopters looking to have the public pay for their hunting trips. Not so committed to control of dogs, cats, foxes, rabbits, pigs breeding more than 1 foal a year to graze green the Upper Murrumbidgee so Canberra can replace the destocked dog infested incinerated Cotter basin as a water supply. Rendered rain shadow by incineration beyond regeneration denied grazing logging or cool fire ecoservices. These same policy failures due to spread Cook Town to Adelaide via the eastern rangers bushfire dingo speedway 3200 km of chaos being put in place by some more highly paid committees signing off on international treaties Australia was not consulted about. (We will not mention blackberry, serrated tussock, st johns wort among other invasive weeds wiping out entire ecologies and water supplies allowed to run riot in dog country abandoned wilderness set to burn in man made industrial strength fuel loads) Rate exempt government departments cannot

be trusted to allocate budgets to deal with the basics of fire risk mitigation, weeds or pest animals on public land. Rates are absorbed into staff comforts. Shonky commissioned science hiring select cronies legitimises doing more of nothing and once again wreaking of corruption.

Address inequality in legislation *legislation dealing with dog management in town shows little resemblance to the dog anarchy condoned and encouraged on and near public lands in relation to fecund savage mongrel dingo hybrids repeatedly gutting and maiming well bred sheep selection lines of 140 years in the one family. Sheep underpinning the restocker market for disease freedom and productivity. Dingo mongrels massacre them just the same as the old wether at the end of his run. In fact dogs will walk through wethers and massacre ewes, ewe hoggets and lambs just for the blood lust. They will devicerate an echidna, platypus, bandicoot, potoroo as a side dish on the way through. Farmers publically blamed for “loss of habitat” however ‘conservationists and experts’ have claimed more biodiversity in Australia with their fire and dogs than any rabbit plague previous. There is no legislation in place that will protect our public lands and national assets from depreciation and loss since the dissolution of crown leases. Schedule I

&II lands is a deceitful way of shifting onus onto neighbours to muster chaos and negligence. The dog management picture double standard and hypocrisy comparing rural and urban circumstances. Animal welfare standards any thing goes out beyond the street lights where ‘do nothing’ is supported by protecting dogs not their victims plight, dismissed as “natural” by committees of largely remote academics and agenda driven

environmental sociological basket cases. Largely self appointed and questionably qualified to make credible and informed judgements.

Beneficiaries of dog country, fund containment * Solution:- either restore wild dogs of any genetic make up as “noxious” over all titles and fund a retrieval program to rid these dogs from all land south of the dog barrier fence or get realistic about containing these dogs to sustainable dingo colonies. Not many people are convinced dingo need all of the Australian mainland to do with as they please. So who funds the dog containment programs? The beneficiaries of dogs doing the cheap pest control in public lands, getting rid of farmers, foresters, fishermen, dog containment program resources should be realistically matched to the task of

containment. Containment programs paid for by city water, hydro electricity,

tourism, irrigation, timber building and paper industries, academic researchers tinkering with national assets. Why do public land near neighbours, food producers have to subsidise obscene profits for staff, shareholders and executives of city water, hydro, plantation timber, cheap

exclusive holidays surf and ski in dog country rate exempt? Listening to dogs howl up endangered wildlife and enjoy wilderness until they run out of food and head for the wildlife and domestic animals on neighbouring farms? The public pay for the uncontrollable inferno, the fire rehabilitation, compilation of the species obituary list, the captive breeding programs. The farmer produces food for below cost of production while mustering the governments dogs and vermin in their spare time and at their own cost. The pro dingo environmental lobby groups and the politicians they lobbied, long departing the crime scene. Hardly equality or conservation of biodiversity to ‘naturalise’ Asian dingo hybrids as weapons to guard the wilderness empire, buying city votes from bushwalkers in bureaucracies.

Integrated community pest animal management or get rid of dogs *if dogs are to maintain their dictatorship across eastern Australia then integrated pest control programs have been proven to work if they are continued to be well resourced by professional staff taking out not only dogs but their reason to be, cats, foxes, pigs and rabbits. Farm families many involved as crown lessees are disgusted with how public land management values have deteriorated in just a couple of decades or less. As the chaos leaks out across their remaining

farms they are not prepared to be accused of ‘loss of habitat’ when they are denied by legislation, regulation, the traps, poisons, gun laws, skilled staff to help defend their land and farming generally, from creeping chaos and corrupt behaviour. What would happen if city people in a rat plague carrying bubonic plague were denied garbage disposal, rat poisons and rat traps, because someone declared it “cruelty to rats!” This is what is being done to hard working dog affected families finding themselves in the war zone trying to stem the tide of chaos flowing out of our public land threatening our unique plants and animals our forests water and food supplies. If dogs, cats, pigs, foxes are to be targeted by well resourced professional pest animal controllers then with integrated biological control undertaken for rabbits they feed and breed on, then over 500 of the threatened species of the 972 recorded in NSW will be better off.

Agricultural lands better off, the economy of NSW better off, dog affected rural minorities given a taste of humanity and democratic process many families fought for in wars when their country sounded the bugle. How much loyalty needs to be demonstrated for Australians we are?

PEST ANIMAL SUBMISSION Noeline Franklin Brindabella NSW.

Our family business has been ruined and family health

compromised by the naturalised dingo hybrids allowed to

wander largely condoned through and out of public lands for the last 40+ years. The process of naturalising the dingo and

its hybrids was based on a whim of a few urban based

academics. What has this cost Australia’s genuinely native

wildlife and native ecologies security of food, forests, water

supplies and fisheries? This submission attempts to answer

some of these questions and reiterates a solution we have

been trying to refine since 2001 and before. We have been forced to endure continued lack of cooperation with the

public sector even standover and threat, abuse of public

position.

Rural families which in the past stood as crown land lessees in many cases are

disgusted, to be mild, with what has happened to their cherished grazing and forestry leases, pork barrelled over the last several decades by swinging governments for swinging city votes and promised to be looked after “better than the lessees could afford” for clean reliable water supply and conservation values. These words have been proven to have a very hollow ring to them where both these aspects are failing alarmingly and contributed to by dogs, foxes, cats, pigs rabbits and wilderness policies of fire suppression to offset urban affluence and

greed. The bushwalking bureaucrats being rate exempt and exempt from other obligations enforced by crown leases. Pest animal management being one of the big three obligations of land managers just falling off the wagon. Declaration of national park has been a key threatening process to conservation achievement, national water, food and forests. Massive impacts down played and denied. The impact of bushfire in areas sheep have been removed from and

wildlife fed to the dingo. Lessees publically slandered and misrepresented, declared ‘exploitive’ because they paid for grass, logs, volunteered as fire fighters, provided ‘in kind’ control of fuel, grass tinder, log thinnings, weeds and pests where dingo and hybrid mongrels were declared noxious animals not bred up and naturalised by academics to chase on their land claims pigs, foxes, cats, rabbits, chase wallaby and kangaroo out onto the neighbours to destroy fences, pasture, fodder crops, food security spread disease, chaos, suffering and so on. Government legislation complicit with this notion where landholders following the law of the time were said to ‘persecute the dingo.’ These were public paid people masquerading as scientists or departmental employees. Deceitful misrepresentation, abuse of public office and corrupt in another time and place. When farmers were said to “persecute dingo” they declared noxious and by law must be removed from all titles across NSW. Rural minorities have over the years been stripped of their credibility, left without right of appeal or a political voice. Stone walled by the public paid media among others lobbied and misled. A media, benefiting from paper off dog country and holiday resort investments in dog country hardly independent or impartial.

Neighbours attempt production of food and fibre extortive in most cases for below cost of production. 3 times the production of the 1950s attracts the same farm gate returns today as options for farmers to destock their land and once were strategically able make fire safe public forests and travel thoroughfares fire safe across the region. Many families are lumbered with a greater fire risk and pest species (plants and animals) pouring out of land they once ran as crown lease well managed crown lease. Paid rates on and not rate exempt as these public lands are today rate exempt and still have been turned into cesspits of weeds and pest animals by chronic abandonment. What value do the public get for these rate exemptions to their public lands? Rates going into wages, conditions, fleet vehicles, offices uniforms, glossy propaganda material, computer gadgetry and so on not into the up keep of the

land for weeds, pests or fire risk mitigation allowed to impact on the regions

affairs. Very unviable, unsustainable and greatly depreciated public land to the point of lost conservation value, value for tourism a national embarrassment to invite international people to see it muchless pay to see it as abandoned wilderness over grown tangle and weed reservoir, crawling with pigs, dogs, foxes,

cats, rabbits among the weeds and fire hazard. Fire hazards without peer across the world. If farmers put up a vermin fence it will likely burn down before it is paid for itself in restored production. Towns, cities and irrigators can no longer rely on these lands to reliably produce quality water as dingo no graze country burns down somewhere each year with unprecedented fury and lasting damage. Canberra bushwalkers and rock climbers went to Coonabarabran routinely and with others obstructed grazing, logging cool fire for decades so they may exclusively enjoy public land at the expense long term of that land. It incinerated with spectacular damage in 2013. The koala burnt out, starved out of the Pilliga decommissioned as a timber community. The coastal forests decommissioned local communities dispossessed and tourism a total hoax as a replacement. Fire that will burn down farmers pest fencing, cause

unlimited flood damage as burnt killed trees rip down incinerated gullies filled with debris and onto silt and soot traps called water reservoirs. Yes pests are integral to these aspects of land management. Dingo hybrids have mysteriously been let go and bred in public managed lands across eastern Australia fed and bred on wildlife “taken for salvation and conservation” according to the propaganda of the day. The outcome can be nothing shorter of the truth. Dogs fed on rabbits, feed foxes and pigs on wildlife, pigs feed dogs until the dogs can feed them. Cats make their own arrangements and contribute to the endangered species business run by academics enjoying public paid wages, offices, paying students to indoctrinate with myth and unproven theory. Slander and misrepresentation of rural minorities enters into textbooks and media releases international conferences, government recommendations. Exclusive Ministerial advisory committees. Declaration of national park wilderness or water catchment is a key threatening process for the immediate titles and the chaos spreads across the landscape to farms trashed by continual out flow of chaos. Public land neighbours do not attract premiums for produce achieved in the face of bigger weed, pest and fire liability. Local Land Services local Shires and other bodies have no legislative capacity to deal with the oozing chaos which then becomes infectious to adjacent titles dropping their

land management standards. Lifestylers buying up dog country made unviable then spread the chaos out another level. Most have no incentive or ability to deal with the out flow of chaos. Land owners rated on land rendered destocked by estimated carrying capacity or land sale values of people unwittingly buying dog country dashing their hopes of self sufficiency.

INEQUALITY IN LEGISLATION Dealing with dogs is totally different between private owners and government departments. Private owners can be severely penalised for their dogs trespassing wandering freely or causing damage or threat. Local councils and police can declare “dangerous dogs” which have to be kept strictly under the law or even be put down, damages paid fines paid. Private owners are bound to have their dog identified and likely desexed with the view to stop it hybridising with dingo

genetics according to some sources showing all the symptoms of dingo coooks. Breeding of pups is subject to regulations and laws, exempt if you are government. The government on the other hand can harbour dogs which as referred to as dingo yet they can be hybrids highly fecund and savage killers. Encouraged to be savage it appears to “guard the wilderness” city water catchment and deliver the

no graze policies. Massacre the wildlife recovered by crown land lessees when dingo were declared noxious animals over all titles south of the 8650 km dog fence installed and maintained since 1914 in the east and 1927 in Western Australia.

While it is illegal for people to remove species from national park public land dingo and hybrids can and do remove tonnages of species killed maimed chased away orphaned. These species can include now threatened or near extinct species. No one cares because its “natural” and the concept is dingo did this unopposed presettlement which is rubbish and a blatant manipulation of the facts. Academia win both ways because when wildlife are robust on crown lease this gives a reason to save them from “exploitationists” without the right of appeal and when starvation ecological collapse occurs from the lack of grazing, logging, cool fire, dog control, these academics advising the government exclusively can sit on public money and count the endangered species as they disappear entered on the species obituary list and set up publically funded captive breeding programs resettling these progeny back in the same dysfunctional

ecology they created through their environmental lobby groups. Private dog owners are subject to cruelty laws but the government declared dingo activity “natural” dismembering wildlife and domestic animals barbarically ripped up for the bloodlust or eaten alive from the groin and gutted first. Mauled and abandoned to die lingering of blood poisoning and trauma if not found by some humanitarian. The animal welfare arm of the environmentalist lobby are accepting or complicit of these atrocities dismissed as “natural” and are not considered when farmers are trying to deal with animal welfare on a landscape basis and are being denied best practice traps, poisons, skilled staff, supported realistic access to guns or harbour and resources to protect their farms, families and the animals on their farms from utter brutality. Farmers left feeling packs of wild dogs are in fact “weapons” used by fanatics within government departments and universities public paid position including farmers levies used and abused by these people who are very callous and cavalier about dogs running amuck on ‘public land neighbours’ for decades. Farmers are told “we don’t care dogs do not eat trees” “dingo were in Australia before exotic hooved animals”

“farmers owe researchers and scientists a living” (Ag levies run at $500-600M pa subsidy to universities, department research, CSIRO etc. are farmers getting value for money? Expensive dictators?) “be careful what you say and wish for, the environmentalists will ban 1080” (may as well they have whittled the dose rate, bait rate regulated it underground and placed by the uncooperative unskilled where dogs don’t go so it is rendered costly and ineffective)

“if it wasn’t for public agency money you people would have nothing to spend on dogs” (if it wasn’t for public lands breeding and dispersing dogs there would not be a problem) “Verify the kills, we do not believe you have lost stock to wild dogs they likely died or disappeared because of neglect, worms, flystrike, the neighbours sheep dog….” (why should farmers believe anything agency staff or scientists say,

denial generating industries or inactivity?) “Prove the dogs are coming from public lands” (exhaustive tracking, monitoring dismissed by desk jockeys) “Sheep are worth nothing anyway” (you need every one to ride out commodity swings) “Farmers destocked because of bad commodity prices” (agencies determining when farmers are getting enough money and if they are allowed to use their own

land! Out in the car park at dog meetings tells the story. Farmers have dilapidated work vehicles 20 years old and agencies slick fleet vehicles bought on the public purse hardly leaving the bitumen. Uniformed sleek public servants with smooth clerks hands and full of theory gang up on the handful of beleaguered

private landholders growing old waiting for some equity and humanity, public service they pay for, rates, taxes GST, fuel, commodity levies and so on Tony Burke opinionated typically arrogantly ignorant) Universities spread hatred and resentment of farming communities treated like unintelligent unviable fools. Media and government reports consolidate this misrepresentation and cultural belittlement. No other community minority is subjected to such harassment, bullying, ridicule, deceit, social isolation by their public service as are dog affected families. Unacceptable. Declared guilty before offered any democratic process. Laws in NSW do not protect farm minorities from bureaucratic abuse and deprivation of liberty to farm as they need or wish. INEQUITY IN LEGISLATION MAKES FARMERS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUBLIC DOGS

Agencies and departments primary industry, national park, city water, state forest, crown land Local Land Services staff often gang together and stonewall rural communities such these staff need not act or contribute resources or their time. Solidarity breeds inactivity or tick the box we have a plan made up in the tea room of the LLS, no landholders or dog behaviourist present and certainly not realistic for the task involved where bureaucrats determine how many baits are allowed, located where dogs do not go, traps put in by armatures, set to train dogs not catch them. Farmers are not told they are entitled to funded negotiated dog containment programs around schedule II lands. The cooperative community programs around schedule II land are being frustrated by the withdrawal of funds and

ganging up non cooperation punishing farmers for speaking up. Like the rural fire operatives punishment dealt out by non cooperation. There is no legal recourse for farmers stood over harassed and bullied including elderly farmers, women, isolated families run into the ground psychologically by chronic ineptitude and non cooperation, dismissive smears by complacent staff either at public meetings or over the phone. I have worked in commonwealth public service and this behaviour is no longer acceptable in the work place so why justified between hard

working farm communities and public staff? Affluent and complacent condescending of struggling farm families over run with savage killer packs of dogs carrying diseases, threaten people, children with attack, valued wildlife and domestic animals. Graduate clerks have assumed all the high moral ground and slick answers to put down hard working farm families. Most dog meetings are out numbering farmers

with agencies staff. They work on the principle of intimidation and crowding irate disenfranchised farmers. Agencies clean out the tea room to attend dog meetings one to a fleet vehicle to out number dog affected families they arrive like a possie in some Hollywood western. Agendas and minutes loaded with agency business and landholder matters fall of the agenda and what is recorded in the minutes. It can take $1000s in staff wages to run a dog meeting for no result. Tick the box

for process and consultation as nothing changes or is meant to change. The environmental lobby (duplicating as departmental staff) has got into the ear of the Minister and locked out any other sectors of society literally fed to killer dog packs. Society progressed little from the Colosseum days when Romans fed 10000 people a week to the lions for public entertainment. Legislation currently reflects this abomination. Dogs can flow continually out of unsustainable chewed

out schedule II lands onto farm land schedule I and the farmers are obliged to remove them, muster, them do the reporting, lobby for funds to hire a professional equipped pest controller, patrol the dog paddock, pay wool levies to muster the dogs flowing off the cities water, cheap carbon off set, the hydro

electricity the ski and surf resorts for high society enjoying dog guarded wilderness. Cafés and shops feed them into complacency and arrogance. Long gone is the notion the public pay for ‘service.’ Paid for no service is fraud. The government has two choices. Get serious about containing dogs to their rabbit warrens in national park, state forest or restore dingo “noxious animal” over all titles and put legislation in place to enforce it. Money provided for dog work be subject to rigorous financial accountability. Dog money has a long history of disappearing and we have a flush of capital works evident of a very nice staff Christmas party. The dogman and dog affected farmers still dressed in rags their equipment still something from the dark ages. Bureaucracies milking an insoluble problem and enjoying the fruits of an unpaid lobby group.

The information NSW Victoria ACT farming communities has paid dearly for as “researching the problem” is a curiosity for the environmental lobby that most wild dogs south of the fence are hybrid mongrels. Likely released by the environmental lobby for the purpose of destroying wildlife and domestic animals in their “bushwalking destinations.” Poisons target specific, non residual, neural toxin, affordable are declared “cruel” by people not always containing domestic dogs on their lifestyle getaways, so $Ms have been spent on an alternative non specific, an antidote basically impractical to administer and within 20 minutes. Farmers and dogmen unlikely to be working within 20 minutes of a vet surgery. A great junket for researchers where they conveniently did not accept information from overseas research. Globe trotting was required to investigate the substance and what research registration junket could be justified on industry funding. If we wait long enough there will be no more sheep and small animals to worry about the hypotheticals. One of many examples wreaking of a blend of corruption and ineptitude.

PEST ANIMAL COUNCIL SECRET SERVICE After decades no one knows who sits on the NSW Pest Animal Council a statutory body yet no one can access minutes or knows when these people meet. Who do they answer to? Can have agenda items added and issues addressed. Pest control

subject to these clandestine processes which then pop up to obstruct and interfere with how farmers can deal with pest or nuisance animal populations. Manipulate access to poisons, traps, forced to pay for training junkets every couple of years as if the entire world has to return to kindergarten every so often for a refresher because they are farmers. DPI makes money out of farmers forced to muster the neighbours escaping dingo hybrids, dispossessed wallaby and kangaroo, wombats, the accompanying pigs, cats, foxes, crows, eagles fleeing

utopia covered in blackberry, serrated tussock, aggressive flammable scrub and water ways bringing down hemlock, scotch thistle, hawke weed that washes off a tourist 4WD or snow glooming gadget. Road or power line crew machinery. Blackberry and scrub form harbour for dogs, cats, foxes, pigs, rabbits. No one can deal with the problem because the land declared wilderness or city water catchment where nothing happens and you cannot spray, graze clear cool burn

the chaos so pest animal control too can be facilitated. Farmers are forced to muster the weeds harbour for pests and the pests. Destocking of sheep across NSW is on going and fatiguing farmers ability to keep mustering vermin be it weeds or pest animals or both. They pay ever increasing rates to Local land Services having its origins in 1835 and local shires riding oblivious of most issues emanating from rate exempt land. LLS rates on the basis

of estimated carrying capacity so does not share the load of forced destocking because of untenable pest incursions be they dispossessed roos or dingo mongrels that are allowed if not encouraged to wander about creating wilderness seen as desirable because food out lets feed the masses as farmers are portrayed

as out there ruining a good wilderness and tourist destination. Pest Animal Council has been reported to be full of animal welfare activists, agency staff and generally appears to be the tail that wags the dog. If this enquiry does nothing else perhaps a close look at the affairs of this body is long over due. A NSW pest animal enquiry in 2000 went no where but consolidate secrecy of these bodies and the so called scientific community taking ownership entirely of budgets to tinker with for nothing but obstruction and more junkets without any tangible improvements on assistance to farmers. To put it plainly these budgets have been hijacked by animal welfareists and environmental groups manipulating more chaos and dysfunction. Funds misdirected to comfort programs for basically irrelevant science fiction. Public sector staff have no obligation to declare interests affiliations conflicts of interests in lobby groups

creating careers from bad advice to government. Standover rural minorities to keep the secret. Banning of traps, poisons, delivery systems to produce ongoing research to look for replacements never acceptable. A 20 year registration period. Corruption and abuse of public office is largely what happens under the guise of environmental or animal welfare arguments. These people crouch behind departmental security doors and slander laws. Barcodes to work the lifts in government office blocks. Oh if only our dog affected farm families could enjoy such security systems keeping the public at a safe distance! Accountability of public service not in existence. Many ferals appear to lurk around and in government office blocks. Dogs are chasing children in the streets, pulling down cattle and horses, killing domestic dogs in country once made safe for sheep and wildlife of all sizes. Glossy brochures and documentaries fed to a largely urban and gullible public including political representative swooned by pseudo science and slick presentations. Complaint from rural communities is spun as an excuse to occupy more government funding with more bloated bureaucracy. Nothing changes on the ground if not gets worse. Lies and deception grows to intercept more budgets.

LOCAL LAND SERVICE RESTRUCTURE DISSERVICE Coordination of pest control misses the point. Farming communities are working to capacity to pay rates levies taxes for services denied by the economic rationalists, costs of production, reduction in affordable labour over regulated, the free trade agreements worked out for urban public sector advantage.

After 2 years of anticipation rate payers have been basically told the LLS is about overseeing and regulating farmers doing their own work on disease, pests and the travelling stock routes are to be confiscated just as the grazing, forestry, crown leases have been. Tinkered with by academics watching biodiversity disappear denied essential ecoservices provided by migratory mobs and the people that are committed genuinely to Australia’s native species. People that

know a bit about land and water management judged by the outcomes being better than what has been delivered since they were ruthlessly displaced for political collateral. The emotive argument have no substance in effect and legislation to protect public lands went with the demise of crown leases which specified management standards and outcomes. The lease legally binding and policed.

The ‘in kind’ fire mitigation, weeding pest animal removal specified in the lease, all forgotten, dismissed never valued, never replaced by park declaration. Office jockeys are going on experimenting put up fences for more no graze plots on travelling stock holding paddocks which are known for 100s of years to kill out

plants and animals starved and out competed. The LLS restructure has been another skilful deception by the academic bureaucratic class to land grab, asset strip and delver nothing back. Not even acknowledgement of how seed orchards came about by big animal activity carting seed soil biota across Australia as has happened for the last 290 million years or more. Travelling stock routes maintained for weeds pests fire risk water supply and so on, farmer funded. Now the academic class can bowl in and take the assets without right of appeal or recourse when neglect breeds vermin. The crown grazing leases have almost been grabbed now the TSRs soft title are being targeted for consumption. The dingo wilderness guard dog will likely be encouraged to follow these corridors of green from Adelaide to Cook Town. The grey wolf model Yellowstone to Yukon out done by several hundred kilometres. Dingo can exterminate wildlife of greater

antiquity and the farms and agricultural practice blamed for habitat loss. Children into the future will be encouraged to eat algae or duckweed as the dingo dictatorship retrieves the wilderness. Sharks and crocodile manage the fisheries, beaches and estuaries. Farmers forced to pay GST, rates, commodity levies to pay for this future for Australia. A bloated bureaucracy. Tony Burke (Federal) will be long gone into retirement where farmers were slandered for input into how their LLS was to direct funding and resources. The Natural Resources Commission NSW apparently having greater insight into farming matters than farmers shoehorned into Kyoto, Rio agreements they were not consulted on. Money lobbied for, for wild dog management programs mustering Bob Carrs and Neville Wran’s ferals siphoned off into consolidated revenue with centralised accounting, the farmers offices, liquid assets, trained staff, elected directors just as arrogantly bulldozed aside in the restructure process and no one knows what happened to the assets. The CMA staff have had plenty of party practice since 2004 when Telstra was sold up including rural Australia’s telecommunications network speared into Kyoto policing of native veg among other duties fall out from international treaties and urban lifestyle offsets ripping off rural communities without consultation or negotiation. Seeds ripped off travelling stock reserves and crop paddocks planted down under some

government grant using school children to plant the trees. No royalties or acknowledgement coming back to the travelling stock route up keep paid for protected from rabbit plague for 100+ years. Thanks this looks good for a university junket we’ll have that! Ratepayers rights and input as to how their rates, levies, taxes, spent 100+ years of investment in food security and assurance Tony Burke from (Strathfield) can

just blow in and slander as he wishes without recourse. Farmers forced to live by the consequences. In their own time and at their own expense are forced to try and retrieve food security from the brink of chaos and political ignorance. Wild dogs alone, has all but destroyed agricultural production in Queensland. Queensland used to have 23+ million sheep insulating it from such fiascos as the

live cattle trade. Dingo, now do over drought affected cattle in areas once safe for wildlife and sheep. If you could muster 2 million sheep in Queensland presently very well done as Australian owned industry and employment stream. There are more facilitators and wild dog national committees, scientific theorists bonding with students in the desert, there overseeing the progress of chaos than ever before. Farmers are putting up ‘cluster fencing’ repeating technology of 100+ years ago. Trying to recapture their farms before some benevolent political

figurehead sells off the gas coal or other expendable for two bits of silver. Puts the harbour on the market. NSW has been host to over 55 million sheep once the rabbits were dealt with. We

are slipping into the mire again as the tablelands, coast and more of the slopes and western NSW is dog affected. Dogs are considered by environmental lobbyists the darlings to restore wilderness to the high rainfall areas and save the rangelands for regeneration still largely rabbit affected. One rabbit a hectare will destroy regeneration including tree planting by the landcare grants as mentioned stripping travelling stock reserves of seed endorsed by governments and these reserves kept rabbit controlled by rates from the farming community. Not a zac or recognition for how these seeds came about. Saved from pest animal impact by farmers and their rates ever since these vermin were imported 1860 for various agendas and subsidised the European fashion industry for decades as Australia blew and washed away seed and soil. Can the fashion industry fund the removal of foxes and rabbits. The spice industry come back and get their cats. Asian fishermen come and muster their boat dogs. Sheep farmers paid damages

for slander and misrepresentation. The fox fur fashion industry cost recovery was destroyed by the animal welfare lobby likely funded by the synthetic clothing and fibre industry, such cost recovery conservation stopped. Farmers harassed for gun ownership muchless use. Rabbit and dog traps banned as “too cruel” by whose judgement and consultation? Farmers blamed for rabbits, foxes, cats, pigs, dogs, carp, cane toads….. loss of habitat over grazing, denied drought aid grazing on roadsides or public land set to burn instead. Public lands exempt from pest control reliance on “dingo” and a dead ground cover to starve out grazers and bury weeds in non disturbance. Has the LLS, DPI stood the farmers friend on these issues now or in the past? What advice have they given the Minister? Nothing can be done we’re too comfortable to make decisions or point out inhibitory legislation. Have the taxpayers of NSW received value for money for their public service and academics their political representation. Many in rural NSW doubt it. If the LLS thinks they are to only oversee farmer cooperation they are equally irrelevant. NATIONAL WILD DOG PLAN & COORDINATION Wild dog, dingo populations across Australia have gone out of control and wildlife disappearing since the 1970s when a small clique of academics decided to

naturalise the dingo on the basis of a dictionary definition and in the eyes of the law. Dingo were claimed to be persecuted and also required to retain the “ecological balance” in other words used to control kangaroo numbers within the dingo barrier fence. Then wild goats were targeted for control, pigs, rabbits, farmers in the rangeland with sheep, foxes and cats disappeared from dog country and all sorts of other fantastic theories to legitimise a 1750 pre settlement Australia exempting the urban areas and so on. For 3500+ years

before this, Asian dingo were a suppressed managed population by the inability to get rid of them and before rabbits were introduced to give them a guaranteed food supply buoying their population as they exterminate wildlife of far greater antiquity and value as never before possible. How fascinating to document and witness the progress of chaos and not lift a finger because we call it wilderness!

Academics relying on dingo anarchy for a meal ticket are looking to more pen trials and extrapolations trying to justify and legitimise theories about dingo ecoservices. Experiment with the people and biodiversity of Australia paid holidays bonding in the bush with fellows. Fascinated that dingo look after sandy desert ecologies where rabbits avoid. Even once credible institutions like the Australian museum hand out awards for dingo research (pen trials) promoted over much needed medical research to alleviate human suffering. Tasmania,

Kangaroo Island, King and Flinders island to mention a few get along quite fine without dingo and wildlife enjoy booms and thrifty populations without dingo wild dog ecoservices. Wilderness mythology has given excuses of denying management of our environment for the indolent and uninformed. Antarctica 200

years ago was the only true dehumanised wilderness in existence. The antisocial can all go down there to live and we welcome the idea. Experts do not know how many dingo are on Frazer island 170000 hectares or what they are doing so how can they claim extrapolation onto the mainland 770 million hectares! All rural Australians know is as soon as their land becomes dog country wildlife disappears. Just 100 dogs a year eats 30 tonne of wildlife and kills a great deal more to feed foxes pigs crows blowflies…… Rural families and domestic animals are under siege and no one in government really cares because cafés and shops feed them and they have been told since day care “farmers ruin a good wilderness.” As soon as land becomes “dog country” rodent, wallabies, quoll, possum, echidna, bandicoot gone and farmers get the blame for “loss of habitat” or foxes or cats not dingo or academic experts fiddling with rural

communities capacity to restore dog management and removal. Government departments regulate farmers tools traps, poisons, skilled dogmen, access to harbour but are not associated in the “loss of habitat” or loss of farm viability. Loss of farm incentive or capacity to deal with pests. Many long time observers have noted dingo are being manipulated by clandestine cults to access farmland restored to some mythical land called wilderness. One should issue bulldozers to various people and let them go down the coast and wipe out a few suburbs restoring the red cedar, Morton Bay figs and rainforest to be in keeping with this same sort of thinking. We have a very irrelevant fanatical sect within our universities and moving on into media, law, architecture, bureaucracy entertaining these notions and setting up committees such as this national wild dog coordinating circus with no intention of fixing the dog problem second to creating a career on bad advice to government naturalising the dingo for invalid reasons in the first place. Manipulating people’s access to effective traps, poisons, aerial baiting, access to harbour frustrating farmers ability to protect their farms, families, domestic animals, wildlife on their land. Research to justify theories why dingo protect wildlife are put in place retrospectively on the basis of poorly designed pen trials. Given credibility by issuing an Order of Australia or other public award.

This process illustrated by the Bubonic plague model where rat traps and rat poison is declared “too cruel and dangerous” for people in the cities to access. People are abusing the privilege of rat traps and poisons to persecute rats been in Australia before people, rat poison kills domestic pests and is a danger to children (non target species) so withdrawn from access unless you pay for training refreshers every 3 years, are only allowed one regulation bait issue, half dose for

every 340 hectares and should not be placed within 500 kilometres of habitation and only in the hands of registered operators. Training is required at a cost and refresher courses run regularly to allow farmers to handle poisons. Baits should be buried or placed where rats can’t find them. Someone has decided randomly and without consultation with those implicated and suffering loss and damage, collected up a heap of mates at a university union or a conference somewhere in

a remote seaside resort, to deny city people garbage collection, rat poison and baits. If and when a few infected fleas arrive on a boat then people start dying of plague. No one could have predicted it or have prevented it brought about by climate change.

One dog affected farmer was even told by a researcher government advisor “farmers owe them a living.” Keep the wool and meat levies rolling in to pay for comfortable lifestyles for bureaucrats graduate clerks.

Rural minorities are being held to ransom over dingo anarchy by a network of dingo huggers on the public purse. If anyone complains the spin doctors put on another layer of bureaucracy to gratefully spend government budgets dedicated to fix the problem. More regulations and bad advice for an insoluble problem of bureaucratic making. The national wild dog junket is just another example which has been an impediment to dog management siphoning away much needed budgets imposing more costs for micromanaging failure. DNA dogs to determine which are descendants of the first shipment dumped here 3500 years ago. In Asia they raise them on rice and have them with honey soy and rice when fat. Dingo were naturalised by lobby groups in the eyes of the law protected from persecution (good emotive words) as a weapon to restore this thing we imported from America called wilderness. Someone lacking in oxygen dreamed up while

hiking in the Sierras. All the city elite could have their extravagances in town and head bush to run all over on a whim, guarded by packs of killer dingo their hybrids and to hell with rural Australia or conservation of wildlife. Most dingo enthusiasts as maniac power seekers like issuing cowardice punishments to society through such as dingo anarchy. In town dogs have to be desexed, on a leach, licenced constrained, costed out of the arms of the elderly children’s pets, micromanaged declared dangerous dogs streets are manned to capture unsupervised dogs. Owners of dogs that attack people or pests are declared criminally responsible. Out in rural Australia anarchy is fine dingo ripping up animals is cute and natural. Poisons, traps, shooting them is cruel and “persecution.” No concern shown to barbaric massacres of wildlife and domestic animals for the bloodlust. Animals stalked and threatened is an adrenaline rush for the dingo fruit cakes crouched out of site on public wages in universities, research institutions, lobby groups, government departments, Ministerial advisory positions as experts because the people that really know dogs have been excluded from the Ministers earshot. Dogmen assumed cannot run a slick convincing powerpoint presentation in front of an uninformed audience. May be they will threaten the dingo administration industry.

National pests who decides and where is the money and resources directed. Butchering big animals to create some sense of wilderness in new tourist destinations. Kakadu gets $18M a year yet since 1998 when the buffalo were exterminated abundance and complexity of ground fauna has all but disappeared. This follows the same trends observed in the southern alps wildlife abundance disappeared with species now disappearing. Dog country is spreading and what have the National Wild Dog Committee done about either Kakadu or Kosciuszko

the fact Australia once had more wildlife and could safely run 180M sheep and now 63M and decreasing many areas sheep unsafe to return such as the tablelands and coast of NSW and Victoria and central southern Queensland many pastoral areas of Western Australia the mid to north of South Australia. Dismissed as vagaries of commodity returns for wool and sheep products but that’s a cop out like the $67M declared impact of dogs on Australia. Just one valley near

Tumut has been forced to destock and avoid dog impact has a recurring loss of productivity of $3M annually. An insult rural communities have to carry and still pay rates for services not received from LLS. NSW a decade or so ago ran 55M sheep today 27M and many being pilfered by dogs accompanied by foxes, pigs, crows, eagles….. These points cannot be made too often.

IRRELEVANCE OF THE INVASIVE ANIMAL CRC The farming community minority has been publically denied assistance and treated very poorly by their governments, manipulative academics and bureaucrats milking industry funds and resources for their own agendas little to

do with the good of the rural sector. The NSW government and its departments is advised to withdraw support from the Invasive Animal CRC which has become and institution for the staff and esoteric directionless research primed by some media beat up on ecology or animal welfare destroying industry best practice for the sake of disruption and siphoning off budgets. It is an old boys club that has become self serving and thrives on policy failure their own bad advice. One struggles to think of an achievement for return in many millions of dollars in investment over a decade of more of funding. Most of these scientists would be more gainfully employed in filling potholes in country roads. The IACRC has soaked up massive budgets and resources to what end where most pests have become worse. People have taken $100000s for training dogs to chase rabbits on Macquarie island, ear tag dogs on Frazer island and so on. Glitz

and innovation. IACRC fell out of a pest animal enquiry conducted by the Federal government in 2004 that dogs would be added to the shandy to be investigated because the Federal government could not interfere with state matters of land management except closure of the Victorian alps to grazing among other examples. The federal committee were told camel were over running central Australia aerial culled destroying another industry in milk, meat, hair etc. and ecoservices stopping the centre from stagnating and burning. People wanting to manage the best camel genetics in the world were arrogantly by passed for the blood thirsty grant seekers. The camels reported were a beat up on numbers. Camel were mobbing because of drought and lack of water. Extrapolations of population density were alarmist and inaccurate. Repeat performance for donkey, horses, water buffalo helicopter gun ships for the hoons and the foxes, cats, dingo plague by passed as being less spectacular TV footage. Aerial cull breeding vermin of dogs, foxes, cats, pigs…. Breeding and feeding off animals shot to rot. Animal welfare lobby missing in action as half shot animals fell into lakes, rivers, suffered broken legs and horrific sublethal injuries at the hands of thrill seekers enjoying public paid helicopter joy flights blowing away our nations work animals turned loose to see out peak oil and return fulltime to ecoservices waiting for when they

may be needed again. Henry Ford removed 150000 work horses from the streets of New York 1898-1912 and nothing much has changed in the thinking of industrialists shooting camel for carbon trading for the helicopter motor bike, 4WD used to run them down and shoot them. So which is the pest? The oil wells that leak into the Mexican Gulf killing aquatic ecologies ever after, the iron ore mines dug up and

exported, smelted and poring fumes into the rainclouds with gay abandon. The smog killing 1.5M Chinese a year. Pollution ending fish farming 40M tonne of protein annually China has to find elsewhere. For every kilometre of road 10 hectares is buried in gravel cement and bitumen ripped through the wilderness yet horses camel donkey water buffalo have “impact” on vegetation it is said!

Water buffalo globally endangered, wild camels only exist in Australia, Somali donkey ancestor of the domestic work donkey on the IUCN endangered list with the water buffalo. Many work horses on the rare breeds trust watch list and people saying extinction of horses is possible with current so called environmental thinking marginalising these animals. In the UK national parks retain managed pony breeds to restore biodiversity to their native heath and wetlands and the crofters of Scotland with their sheep are recognised as an essential integral part

of conservation achievements such national park is thrown over the rural community encouraged to keep doing what they are doing including grazing such as the Soay sheep grazing Scotland’s biodiverse heathlands for in excess of 10000 years since the ice age receded and likely returned from a previous long

association. Domestic sheep have their origins in north American and central Asian wilderness tending a rich biodiverse alpine vegetation contradictory to myth generated and perpetuated among the academic classes of Australia. While the dingo ecoservices have attracted entire university research teams the ecoservices contributed by horses, donkey, camel, water buffalo on valued conservation land domestic sheep goats cattle etc. not a zac is afforded in fact research legislated against in Victoria. Where was Tony Burke in this situation of stripping the high country to burn instead and go to the dogs? The now rare frogs are restricted to grazed cool fired private land and have disappeared off decommissioned grazing lease. Stagnated and or incinerated because of climate change.

Canberra has an alternate water supply after the 2003 holocaust because of the Brumby mobs in the Upper Murrumbidgee retaining fire safe lawns. ACT Brumby were massacred 1987 after 100+ years of keeping the bogs fire safe. The ‘Bidgee Brumbies just over the range are put on death row $3M thrown at their demise when money lobbied for dog containment goes mysteriously astray and paved meshed walking paths pop up just as mysteriously in the main range wilderness area unintervened by human activity. Farmers told there is no money for dog control as 100000s of sheep are forcibly destocked. Wildlife disappears and the endangered species industry moves on a pace. The $3M dedicated to Brumby massacre equates to the rolling loss of income carried by one rural community, one dog affected valley forced to destock and go to town finding work to pay the rates on their land. Pigs can consume 300 frogs in one meal. That equates to 1-2 years of captive breeding program to re-establish frogs back in stagnant over grown bogs in public land. Of the 15 high country frog species 60% or 9 species are now all but disappeared. Subjected to fly in fly out recovery plans at the publics expense. Pigs and dogs, foxes run out of abandoned public lands onto neighbouring farms ripping up wet areas, truffles, orchid, corms, destroying frogs, lizards, echidna, wallaby, bandicoot, pygmy possum, dunnarts and so on

and the farmers are declared destroying habitat as they resource pest removal decade after decade on the interface of farmland and chaos. Daily they wonder why bother feeding an irrelevant insular urban society so committed to denying farming minorities even the most meagre services in return?

Wild dogs are harboured in public land in theory to control pigs, foxes, cats, rabbits. Most farmers observe they feed each other and thrive on each others activities to the demise of native species. No one is accountable for bad advice to government and misappropriation of pest budgets with gee wiz theories. More committees sit and deliberate the evidence of species endangerment and think up causes. One pig on the correct soil moisture can dig up a hectare of land in 1-2 days. Large pigs can and do eat young lambs, disappear adult sheep, wallaby or kangaroos killed by dogs they accompany. Dogs breed more pigs and foxes than they dispatch. While pest controller are harassed about non target species caught in the cross fire of control methods no one mentions the grossly non specific

manner of dingo pest control hoovering up anything in sight. Killed for the practice not just for food. Greater glider, echidna, broad tooth rats side dishes to rabbit control. Unconscionable. Dogs, fox, cat populations are buoyed by rabbits across public lands such these exotic carnivores move on to destroy wildlife as aside dish. This situation is put down as the result of ‘climate change!’ If and when the region is burnt as never before possible dogs foxes pigs cats that survive the holocaust cause also by climate change, have a choice of hoovering up and wildlife surviving Armageddon or head for the nearest farm grazed green and as best as possible resilient to climate changing effects of inferno. Pest fences are generally incinerated so the wildlife, domestic animals, habitat is done over within a few weeks by the flood of displaced vermin that survived the impossible by sheltering down long vacated wombat holes or sheltering on roadways or power lines through the wilderness to

be bowled by speeding tourist traffic. Tourist roads generally claim many wildlife to feed more pests. Visitors, rushing to the wilderness resorts and too impatient to avoid livestock or wildlife. Pests are a matter of definition. Tourism trashing our access tracks for fire and other destination and travelling stock routes decommissioned to prevent impact

are a disgrace. These off road tourists are also interfering with dog fox cat pig management strategies. Destroying access tracks for pest animal controllers volunteer fire fighters maintenance crews for power line and other facilities. Brumbies are shot for impact on water quality however tourists are fair game as

long as they buy a beer, motel and a takeaway in town who cares they go bush spread rubbish, cut fences, shoot livestock, steal wood, equipment, destroy tracks and facilities. Government spends million of dollars encouraging tourism and yet the behaviour to condone rorting rural communities is condoned as farmers are repeatedly portrayed as ‘red necks’ and destroyers of the environment including via the public broadcaster and public education facilities. Bushwalkers and bushbashers are condoned and encouraged to bring money to the towns, not the farms or public lands funded to muster killer dogs.

Our stock routes have been closed to protect the region from soil erosion and loss of water quality. There is no legislation to address the abusive use of a vehicle on public infrastructure. Who pays when fire fighters or power line maintenance crews cannot use these tracks and require heavy equipment to restore accessibility? Are these pests? As with the dog packs, rabbits etc. striping public lands of lessees has led to an expansion of issues policing, rubbish, fire risk, growing of illegal drugs and so on. Government again is missing in action. Once again dogmen, pest animal controllers have been threatened by drug growers, put at risk by bad tracks ripped up, traps and control strategies interfered with and stolen. There is no legislative or public awareness campaigns to protect public lands or rural minorities from these ferals.

Brumbies are resident fire fighters and retain native plant biodiversity and have done for over 150 years yet are butchered, trapped and sent to slaughter because of beat up media claims on “impact on water quality and soil erosion.” Pests are a matter of definition. The hypocrisy and double standard is very evident. Government subsidises tourist promotion. Nothing is mentioned about expected standard of behaviour and respecting public or private property. Farmers are on their own in drought aid and rates paid for over 100 years for travelling stock route facilities that can be confiscated on a whim without

compensation or recourse for misrepresentation. Public paid media allowed to tell lies and spread deception. TSRs trashed wilfully.

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Brumbies are shot for claims of soil erosion and impact on water quality. Tourism is encouraged even wreckreation on destocked stock routes once travelled by millions of stock. So what can you track? From a pest animal control, weed fire risk and liability across NSW public lands need be subject to the same legislation and value system as private land. Harbouring dangerous savage killer dogs in public lands for near neighbours to endure threat danger and loss is unacceptable. To have this arrogantly endorsed and put out as scientific by government is two faced and hypocritical to say the least. From a scientific stand point a national embarrassment to call it science. The Azaria Chamberlain case was also a tragic national embarrassment and

symptomatic of how fanatical officials can be to achieve a dingo dictatorship. Sharks running the swimming beaches is another model of stupidity as is the crocodile trained to pull people out of commercial tourist boats. Swim around the streets in the event of a flood to satisfy someone’s interpretation of commercial wilderness.

Somewhere one has to strike the happy medium of “pest.” Most of the dogs south eastern Australia are less then 60% dingo who ever decided what a dingo was. How did this happen from when dingo south of the barrier fence put up by 1914 and too late to contain the European fashion fur rabbit plaguing across Australia.

Dingo were feeding and breeding on rabbit getting rid of native rodents, stick nest rats, hopping mice then the bandicoot, bettong, potoroo, hare wallaby hoovered up, bridle nail tail wallaby, hairy nosed wombat massacred and given hydatids. Dingo advocates living in denial and ‘in town.’ Recruited by the so called environmental movement as soon as the boat or aeroplane arrives. Indoctrinated with myth. The wildlife protected from the ravages of rabbit over grazing the fox pig added to the shandy the intense large area bushfire and so on by stockmen and rural communities have to now been gagged on the disappearance of our recovered wildlife with the ‘naturalised dingo’ fed and bred to destroy farms and families that have for generations taken pride in their clean water fire safe forests wildflowers wildlife and so on. Lifetimes quietly committed spent weeding, removing pests, cool burning, selectively thinning and clearing making biodiverse vegetation fire safe and free from pest species impacts. Blow in bushwalkers with

political connections can snap their fingers abuse privileged public positions and lay claim and not a backward glance for the responsibility for weed, fire and pest management. A late session in parliament before it rises punches through a title change, the dingo hybrids do over the wildlife within 3-5 years or less. Our public lands have no protection from rogues. All you have to be is a vocal ‘qualified bushwalker’ to set in progress loss of fire risk mitigation, pest species management to insignificant impact. There is no auditing of bureaucratic achievement Are the wildlife better off as promised? Where have all the flowers gone and why? What happened to the water supply and why? Are the forests saved from logging and grazing better off and why? Are farmers receiving fair return for their product to afford pest control? What are the government regulations and legislation doing to facilitate pest control? What about OH&S is it set up to frustrate realistic work practices? Furphy foundry had over 100 years of good safety record among staff yet a 3 day trained OH&S operative went through them like a tornado, close to closing them down as unviable, cost them almost a lethal outlay and what did it achieve for

staff safety? The regs our pest animal controllers have to abide by are set up to frustrate and manipulate, cost budgets and resources to busting point. Subject to abuse of public office. The LLS restructure has declared pest controllers fall in line with public service. Not allowed to use dangerous guns traps poisons off road vehicles unless attended to and accompanied by a fully equipped medical team. Lovely thought. If food production was left to OH&S experts we’d all be starving within the week.

Farmers are the less than 1% of society that feeds 60-80 million people. Most are now self employed because OH&S has destroyed farm employment. More accidents are happening from stress and fatigue and aging community. Thanks government, regulations a great deal has been achieved with your rule books and inappropriate staff. Marks for judgement, zero! Provision of a supportive society,

zero! The fox now has a pest order. Farmers are compelled to put their hand in their pocket and stretch resources to this fashion fur item dumped here in 1870 and the animal welfare destroyed cost recovery conservation by banning fur sales. Do they now compensate farmers for decades of fox breeding? No they are long gone leaving the farmer holding the baby. Farmers have no recourse for the

dingo fiasco, fox scandal, cat anarchy, pigs bred on such as Peter Garrett and Penny Wongs Clyde holdings at Bourke let go wilderness purchased with public money. Peter has gone back to burning midnight oil in Mosman while the neighbours and wildlife waterways wear the pigs, dogs, cats, foxes, loss of rate

income for the region, loss of skilled staff and what ever has enjoyed the abandoned wilderness. The promise of a tourist income a hollow disruptive hoax. Federal government not allowed to interfere with state land management much!

Mungo station closed down for a tourist prop, restoring wilderness. So who mans and funds pest animal weed control over there now? The anti-sheep cult having their way and what now in provisions? Do we blame pest sheep for drying up the lake and habitat loss? If the NSW Government supported the retention of our own sheep wool clothing industry what would that have done for self funded pest animal control? Too removed like city water and dingo anarchy backing no graze policies soil con 10+ tonne to the hectare rocket fuel to bring about permadrought, mass extinction food, and water crisis. If you are government you can starve out your rabbits, piling up gum leaves for decades and breed up your naturalised dingo non target specific pest controller. Manipulate legislation and regulation to have rural minorities stood over and bullied to muster the escaping

chaos. Stall the peoples enquiries and concerns by hiring the services of an “independent” scientists funded to come to predetermined conclusions scientifically convincing for the city press in 20 years time when the complainants have grown weary by despair. Several governments on, no one remembers.

CONCLUSION MORE ON GROUND WORK LESS REGULATION, ACADEMICS AND BUREAUCRATS. Target the problem and it will go away. The take home message from this submission is we need budgets directed to on ground active removal of pests dogs, foxes, cats, pigs, rabbits. Disband bureaucracies as a cover for unemployment because real industry and enterprise has been closed down. Throw out restrictive, obstructive regulation

and double standard legislation dealing with public and private lands. Make best practice control strategies agreed to by rural industry accessible to those in need and offer appropriate support such control is feasible and effective. The cost savings dismissing self serving bureaucracies directed to the ground where skilled staff are supported to get on with the removal of pests.

Level playing field. Throw out the science fiction junkets. Have all bureaucrats and academics declare their political lobby group affiliations, building their careers on bad advice to government. Insoluble problems their own making exposed for the fraud it is.

Budgets spent on IACRC redirected to on ground control, levies misspent on chasing city water catchment anarchy dingo no graze water pays to deal with the dogs pigs cats foxes bushfire weeds. Tourism levied to restore land management values to acceptable standard for pests and fire risk. The public mindfully kept safe from crocodile, dingo, sharks and so on. The nation under siege from savage animals and micromanagement dictators. The indecently restructured LLS please explain what services they provide for rate payers also levy payers, tax payers at state federal local and industry levels Tony Burke and contribute many voluntary unpaid for services to the environment, water, food, biodiversity security and have done for decades and denied the appropriate accolades. Subsidise beyond their fair share to contribute to all the

Kyoto, Rio agreements on emissions, biodiversity security and so on. Volunteer time as PPB RLPB directors before the LLS began the junket mentality of sitting fees over and above cost recovery for transport. To have LLS staff now say they want nothing other than an overseeing role is ill informed and irrelevant for rural needs. LLS is rapidly become another self service flogging an over worked rural sector forgotten by too many layers of government. If government is serious about pest management reap cost savings getting rid of the academic and bureaucratic leaches and setting up trusted and skilled pest animal control staff equipped and supported by appropriate streamlined financial administration non interfering. Staff pest animal controllers provided with appropriate quantity and quality of traps, poisons, rifles, access to harbour, remote cameras as required to remove the anarchy plaguing public and private lands. Integrated programs aimed at taking out rabbits (biological control) dogs foxes, cats, pigs. This group of species are interdependent and at the expense of wildlife and domestic animals judged for not only their contributions to food fibre but ecoservices weed control, fire risk mitigation, biodiversity enhancement, water security and so on. Without these industries the farm families too go, for what impact? Vandalism, wreckreation, drug production…..

More dog control micromanagement is inversely proportional to wildlife abundance, proliferation of sheep productivity.

these are general trends across states. More dogs less sheep. Tell the 2.2M hungry Australians their government values dingo more than them. Sugar coat it and despite the science fiction however you like dingo are destroying wildlife.

As rabbits dingo then foxes and pigs settled Australia native species disappear especially in remotely settled areas.

Dingo has led the charge on mainland mammalian extinction and loss of abundance and distribution. Rabbits have turbo charged this capacity. Cats and foxes aggravated the species loss but have also provided a scapegoat. Fiddling while Rome burns the current academic picture indicates of the 6186+ species in

NSW control and removal of dogs rabbits foxes cats pigs will assist 504 of the 972 declared threatened species.

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Our city water catchments and public conservation lands are a national disgrace for weeds pests fire hazard species lost starved butchered burnt. Currently the LLS embodies this cultural misinformation and policy failure. On the issue of pest animals it appears LLS is siding with NP and SF staff in denial of what has to

change and be done to fix it. Restore food water biodiversity security. There is no or little legacy of past crown land lessee management left to exploit by doing nothing.

Nationally 446 animal species have made it onto the species obituary list. 1298

plant species have been ravaged by rabbit plague and inappropriate fire regimes, run over by road networks and suburbia. Buried in piles of toxic gum leaves.

A recent biodiversity survey discovered high rainfall zones supported more species however this picture is changing rapidly. Declaration of national park is seen to be a key threatening process and time wears out the legacy of past crown land lessees astute and committed management. Take some now rare alpine frogs. There once was at least 15 species on the alps and now abundance has plummeted and 9 species gone or near so since destocking grazing leases in 1969, main range destocked in 1944. Frogs coevolve with dinosaur from 230 million years ago. Dinosaur including those living in Australia roamed freely in big herds and grew to 100 tonne each. No one fenced them out of the wet areas frequented by frogs enjoying pugs built by herds of

massive dinosaur. No one fenced off the bogs from access by big animals as they do today. No one denied or suppressed fire as they do today. Eucalypt, t tree, bottlebrush are renowned for production of toxic surface active antibiotic oils leached into the water if cool frequent fire is denied. Water draining these areas is bitter black and lifeless. Toxic to soil organisms, decomposition and aquatic life. Since the alps were destocked and fire suppressed frogs have starved in a collapsing ecology and have succumbed to chytrid fungus skin infection as the excess surface active oils have made them vulnerable to skin disease likely spread by tinkering globe trotting frog researchers. What is known is that mammalian urine is a tonic for aquatic ecologies and a slightly saline solution is therapeutic for frogs to recover from disease.

Frogs are dying out denied bug animal ecoservices. Starvation, water catchment dysfunction and pigs are killing them. Brumbies are not the pests but the last life line for biodiversity. The high country needs more Brumbies not less. Frogs coevolved with herds of dinosaur, big animals to 100 tonne each. Big animals create habitat. Pugs, poo, water supplies everything a frog could want.

As Brumby disappear so does viable habitat and fire safe havens for biodiversity. Water catchment values. Kosciuszko alone should be able to support over 200000 horses for positive outcomes. In the case of Brumbies. which are the pests, the horses or the fanatics wanting them exterminated and our public lands turned to barren canopy burn, incinerated rocks and man made desert. Who decides? Dingo the ‘no graze’ instead groomed the weapon for city agendas and bad ecological outcomes. No graze fire suppression builds bonfires. Where’s the environmental impact, what is the causal agent?

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Frogs love sharing bogs with pugging big animals stirring up the nutrients.

Fly in fly out frog boffins have missed the ecological factors of why the frog populations have collapsed. Bad fire regimes, past pig population explosion. Loss of big animal activity to manage vegetation and fire, nutrient recycling, av gas blown onto their habitat. Our public lands are in a bad way and the same

academic failures are being imposed on the rest of rural Australia. Theorists have done us no favours. Since water buffalo, Brumbies and donkey shot out of Kakadu biodiversity has collapsed, starved, gone to the dogs, cats and burnt. The public pay $18+M for this conservation achievement. $340M pa in NSW park budget to breed dogs to destroy $5B sheep products. Propaganda sheets still indicate dogs only cost the nation $67M pa. Which bush was this information found under?

Queensland down 20+M sheep an annual cost of $27B in sheep alone. NT reported 60000 calves affected 2012-13. If this was the normal reporting figures of 33% then losses to the nation amount to $480M - $1.5B a year from the NT and $27B QLD $28.5B not the $67M reported by the dingo huggers playing down

reality. How do you value the depreciation of 8M hectares of high rainfall land in NSW. Take the 3000 giga litres of water not harvested by canopy burn in alpine dog country. Irrigators could have made $48B retail and export dollars a year out of that renewable state product for NSW. Dear dingo habitat destocked and incinerated. That quickly brings NT, QLD, NSW cost of dogs to $76.5B pa value added in quick figures. $10B farm gate cost to farmers. We have not costed in the paid for bureaucracy that delivers nothing but obstruction and costs.

water pipes have been around since Roman times. If rural communities went to town and pulled them all out because there was no scientific evidence to support continuing with water pipes because of the environmental impacts would any one care?

Traffic lights were first installed in Sydney in 1936. If they were all removed from cities would it make a difference? If Sydney comes to rural NSW and pulls down dog management why should we bother sending in food for domestic and export markets?

Farmers have had their access to dog baits traps guns resources dog harbour frustrated and yet bureaucrats and political figureheads get paid the same for obstructing dog management! Paid for no service.