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    Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

    enki2012(OP)

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    01/16/2012 02:18 PMReport Abusive PostReport CopyrightViolation

    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Dude! I took pics a month or 2 ago that looked EXACTLY like that!

    [link to s1134.photobucket.com]

    I posted a thread here and was told its just a sun dog.Quoting: AmericanInfidel

    Yep I've been taking & posting those same pics for months & you willhave ppl. telling you it's something it's not. I'm betting you were alsofacing towards the southern heavnens when you took those pics. Ilike how you captured all that fake, grey/silvery barium chem-cloudstrying to darken the sky. I believe you actually got the real pic, it'sexactly like the ones I took. It looks like they went real heavy on theChems in your pic.. Good job...

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 8914573

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!sun dog.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    you don't know anything about sundogs or chemtrails or anything

    else for that matter.

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 8553545

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Whohoa! I'm so glad you got this photo, I have seen it too manytimes along with chemtrails, but you nailed it before the cover, goodfor you.what is this? Is this really nibiru? Why are they hiding it?

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!I know what a sun-dog is & at times these chem-trails with the

    reflective chems do make sun-dogs, but this is no sun dog. I'm sureyou have your reasons or maybe it's your job to discredit pplwho see what the Chem-planes are supposed to be hiding,that's fine. I'll play along...Quoting: enki2012

    And there it is...The "if you don't agree with me, you must be paid todisagree" argument..

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    Fucking conspiracy nuts...Hilarious!Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    why do you hang on these threads when you claim you don't believe

    in chemtrails, one would think you'd just go away.enki2012(OP)

    User ID: 2081064United States

    01/16/2012 02:22 PMReport Abusive PostReport CopyrightViolation

    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Whohoa! I'm so glad you got this photo, I have seen it too manytimes along with chemtrails, but you nailed it before the cover, goodfor you.what is this? Is this really nibiru? Why are they hiding it?Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8553545

    To find out why anyone would want to hide it read my orig. post.

    Anonymous Coward

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    01/16/2012 02:26 PMReport Abusive PostReport CopyrightViolation

    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Whohoa! I'm so glad you got this photo, I have seen it too manytimes along with chemtrails, but you nailed it before the cover, goodfor you.what is this? Is this really nibiru? Why are they hiding it?Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8553545

    To find out why anyone would want to hide it read my orig. post.Quoting: enki2012

    Makes perfect sense.

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!i saw it too op

    Quoting: 508527

    We do not have souls, we are souls. Knowledge without controls is the true power.

    We are one x

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 8553545

    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

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    United States01/16/2012 02:31 PMReport Abusive PostReport CopyrightViolation

    I really wish people would stop saying sun dog. This is not a damnsun dog, you usually can see it in the morning hours, but noteveryday, I don't know how this thing orbits, it would be interestingto find out. But it's definitely there.

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 1092219

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!...

    blindQuoting: kevinGLP

    stupidQuoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    stupidQuoting: kevinGLP

    Hehe, you ignorant chemtard are so funny...

    You have obviously never studied these subjects, but you are soarrogant that you dismiss the facts without even understandingthem.

    You are in no position to call anyone stupid.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    OOOHHH..... well there you have the one post that changeseveryone's mind...backed by proof and smitten with detail.

    First of all some of us have studied this subject back to 1998 whenthey started to appear everywhere around the world.

    2ndly...look up every once in awhile study your air corrridors andthen watch the planes make u-turns and cover another part of thesky...

    You will need a pair of binoculars...and a telescope and you'll join thecrowd of believers

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!sun dog.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    ^this^ I want to believe in Nibiru as much as the next guy but this is

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    Violation a sundog...sorry.

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 8711233

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!I believe that is a sundog...now the question needs to be asked ~

    Why are there so many sundogs lately?

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 8961534

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

    Good catch OP!

    We have been trying to find this object since learning about it on[link to www.zetatalk.com] but the chemtrails are doing their job.

    I can't believe how much shit they spray each day.Anyone know what this POISON is costing us in tax dollars?

    I will be glad when the cover-up is over!

    Anonymous CowardUser ID: 192998

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

    Please do the world a favor and never, ever reproduce....

    enki2012(OP)

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!sun dog.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    ^this^ I want to believe in Nibiru as much as the next guy but this isa sundog...sorry.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8711233

    It's funny that this "sundog"ONLYappears when I'm lookingin the Southern & South West sky &ONLYwhen chemtrails

    are laid thick & heavy ONLYcovering the South & South West

    sky just like the Sumerians who knew more about astronomythen 99% of the people today have said Nibiru would

    approach Earth from. Hmmm & I wonder why according to

    the US gov. Earthquake site we had 26 Earthquakes reported

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    so far JUST FOR TODAY 1/16/12, If you really think this is alljust a coincidence then I don't know what else to say.. I've showedpic's & given you data to support it... Take it for what it's worth. It'scoming...

    Last Edited byenki2012on 01/16/2012 03:52 PM

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!I have to say this looks real enough to Me Thanks for postingthese!!!Quoting: Hawk55

    ditto

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

    Good catch OP!

    We have been trying to find this object since learning about it on[link to www.zetatalk.com] but the chemtrails are doing their job.

    I can't believe how much shit they spray each day.Anyone know what this POISON is costing us in tax dollars?

    I will be glad when the cover-up is over!Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8961534

    I think the money could be better spent by feeding the hungry, butthat might be something christ would do.

    NOT the us gov.

    enki2012(OP)

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    01/16/2012 03:28 PMReport Abusive PostReport Copyright

    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!

    Good catch OP!

    We have been trying to find this object since learning about it on[link to www.zetatalk.com] but the chemtrails are doing their job.

    I can't believe how much shit they spray each day.

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    Violation Anyone know what this POISON is costing us in tax dollars?

    I will be glad when the cover-up is over!Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8961534

    I think the money could be better spent by feeding the hungry, butthat might be something christ would do.

    NOT the us gov.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8599934

    agreed!

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!sun dog.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6845027

    ^this^ I want to believe in Nibiru as much as the next guy but this isa sundog...sorry.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8711233

    It's funny that this "sundog"ONLY[/ appears when I'mlooking in the Southern & South West sky & ONLY whenchemtrails are laid thick & heavy ONLY covering the South &South West sky just like the Sumerians who knew more about

    astronomy then 99% of the people today have said Nibiruwould approach Earth from. Hmmm & I wonder whyaccording to the US gov. Earthquake site we had 26

    Earthquakes reported so far JUST FOR TODAY 1/16/12, If youreally think this is all just a coincidence then I don't know what elseto say.. I've showed pic's & given you data to support it... Take it forwhat it's worth. It's coming...Quoting: enki2012

    Hehe, if you actually understood sun dogs, then none of that wouldbe "funny".

    "Nibiru"

    LOL!!!!!!!

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Hey OP,This may be of interest.

    Naked Eye Viewing Technique

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    from GodlikeProduction Message Board, Oct 10, 2003

    Try the pinhole experiment. Make a large pinhole about 1 inch fromany corner of an index card, tape two pencils on the outer edge sothe card can be raised from laying flat, then tape a blank white sideof another index card to the first card so that the cards are about 3/8

    to 1/2 inch apart. Hold the pinhole perpendicular to the sun, on asunny day, and look carefully between the two cards. You will seetwo circles of light, not one! The second is not as bright as our Sun,and should be about 1.5 diameters of our suns dot away from it. Thisdistance is changing and therefore indicates the second sun is slowlywidening the distance between the two, as observed [Oct 10] fromour vantage point on Earth.Author of Technique

    I have been experimenting with viewing the two suns via the pinholemethod for nearly two weeks [Oct 14]. I used various pinhole sizesfrom large needle to about 1/32 inch, with a constant focal length of3/8 ths inch. All produced the same results; 2 dots (suns) on theviewing paper behind the pinholes and:

    a) The second dot (Planet X ) is always to the right of the suns do ,when viewed from the suns prespective .b) The second suns intensity is on the order of 1/3 to 1/4 theintensity of our sun. (The dots are too close together to use a lightmeter.)c) They are narrowly separated and not touching, like ten days ago.d) Early in the AM (9:00 to 9:30) the Planet X dot is at the 3 oclockposition if one consideres 12 oclock as the top of our suns dot oflight and 3 oclock as one quarter of the way down the left side ofthe paper , as one looks down between the two index cards.

    e) By 3:30 PM, the second sun has moved to the 4 - 4:30 position;by sunset, it has moved nearly to the 6 oclock position.

    Having looked at the photos on another site [ZetaTalk] that weretaken in series by the same camera/photographer/place in a givencity, and others taken in different parts of the world by differentindividuals, the clockwise movement of the second sun is confirmedby the second sun personas and the second sun dots I observed.EagleI posted the index card experiment 2 weeks ago using the 27 guageneedle technique. Yes I still see [Oct 14] a second smaller objectnear the sun which is dimmer and positioned at 1 oclock. I haveshown many people this object using this method and if you dontsee it than you obviously need glasses. Give your eyes time to adjustagain, as its smaller and dimmer than the sun. Eagle only verifiedmy results. Ive found that I can only see it with a 27 guage hole orsmaller.Author of TechniqueThe hole in the top card is like the aperature setting on a filmcamera. The perspective would change as the earth rotates throughthe day. A small hole, or small aperature, give a greater depth of

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    field and in a pinhole is like using a telephoto lense. Why cant yousee Planet X as you look through a telescope? If you were looking atthe sun through a telescope, and someone was standing close toyour left or right, they wouldnt be seen in your telescope. If PlanetX were close by, and out of the angle of your lense, It wouldnt beseen either.

    Poster 3I dont think you can get much thinner than an index card @ about.020 inch and have any control over varitions in focal length as onemanuvers the two cards (taped together with two pencils to separatesame). My drill was high speed, but not any more. Also, the bitshave to be of very good quality, or the holes are ragged/burred.Tried a larger hole in wood, but did not get the proper focal length,but did get a ragged hole, unsuitable for the purpose at hand. Youhave to really focus for about 20 seconds before the second dot(sun) is seen. On my first try, I didnt see the second sun with just apaper folded over. One of the problems twelve days ago was thesecond sun was touching/part of the circle (dot) of our sun. Sincethen, the two have separated slightly, and the second has grownlarger. This I would presume to think indicates the Earth and secondsun are closing the distance separating them.EagleI was an accredited Federal Agent for many years. I attended basicand advanced photography schools. I have been using an 'Air LensCamera' that I made from a small pasteboard box (8" X 4" X 4").One long side [A] is covered with a glossy white paper and the endsand other sides are covered with black construction paper or picturealbum filler. I cut a toilet tissue tube in half at a 45 degree angle andcovered one of the halves inside with black paper. Near the right endof the box side opposite the white paper I traced around the angleend of the tube, cut a hole in the box and pasted the tube into the

    hole as an eyepiece to view inside the box. Make sure the box is lighttight when using the tube to view the white field. I used a mediumsize safety pin to punch an aperture hole in the middle of . Using thiscamera, I see the Sun and Planet X. Planet X and a wide moon anddebris field are visible. Numerous moons. The Sun dot is not verybrilliant. However, if you move the box so Planet X is superimposedon the Sun, the brilliance is tripled. Other items I placed in the endopposite the eyepiece help me calculate the distance of Planet Xfrom the Sun and Earth. To make your calculation, use the threeknowns plus triangulation. Diameter of Sun. Distance of Sun fromEarth. Zeta stated width of Planet X moon field. This can all be seenin living color. Using my 'camera' (which has great depth of field asthe pinhole lens can be adjusted to a max of 6" from the film) PlanetX Moons and whatever else are in motion. I see it as grey in colorwhen away from the Sun and the closest matter appears to be abouthalfway between the film and lens, a phenomenon I have neverviewed previously in any of the other boxes I have used to vieweclipses.Ron, via emailThe suggestion on possible reflection back from the backside of thefirst piece of cardboard proved correct . Blacking this backside

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    eliminated this low intensity, seperate dot and what remains is acircular white dot connected to our suns spot, which moves aroundthe edge of the sun in clockwise direction as the day progresses. Thissecond white dot is almost the same intensity (no light meter fits inthere ) as our suns now, and looks to have grown to about 1/3 thesize of the suns dot.

    EagleIf the pinhole is filtered with a thin piece of cream-white plastic (Iuse the lettering on a food wrapper) the Red Dragon can be seen inthe Air Lens Camera. Changing sky conditions and the time of dayaffecting what is seen the the box. I move the Sun completely off thebackground onto the black paper sidewalls and there is still a lot ofreflected sunlight. But, eliminating the Sun does not always removethe several personas or debris field. It is not as colorful as akaleidoscope, but more interesting to me as the persona's seembrighter.Ron, via emailI looked this morning, Nov 23, at the rising sun, using my diskettefilm. The Sun is still very bright so I put on a blue tinted Raybanshades and looked again through the filter. I was stunned to see around object about half the size of the Sun at the 8 o'clock position,left of the Sun. Still faint but very much present. When I lookedthrough the diskette film alone I could not see it. When I used abrown shade I also could not see it. I advise people to try thismethod.Felix from Guyana[link to www.zetatalk.com]

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Hey OP,This may be of interest.

    Naked Eye Viewing Technique

    from GodlikeProduction Message Board, Oct 10, 2003

    Try the pinhole experiment. Make a large pinhole about 1 inch fromany corner of an index card, tape two pencils on the outer edge sothe card can be raised from laying flat, then tape a blank white sideof another index card to the first card so that the cards are about 3/8to 1/2 inch apart. Hold the pinhole perpendicular to the sun, on asunny day, and look carefully between the two cards. You will seetwo circles of light, not one! The second is not as bright as our Sun,and should be about 1.5 diameters of our suns dot away from it. Thisdistance is changing and therefore indicates the second sun is slowly

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    widening the distance between the two, as observed [Oct 10] fromour vantage point on Earth.Author of Technique

    I have been experimenting with viewing the two suns via the pinholemethod for nearly two weeks [Oct 14]. I used various pinhole sizes

    from large needle to about 1/32 inch, with a constant focal length of3/8 ths inch. All produced the same results; 2 dots (suns) on theviewing paper behind the pinholes and:

    a) The second dot (Planet X ) is always to the right of the suns do ,when viewed from the suns prespective .b) The second suns intensity is on the order of 1/3 to 1/4 theintensity of our sun. (The dots are too close together to use a lightmeter.)c) They are narrowly separated and not touching, like ten days ago.d) Early in the AM (9:00 to 9:30) the Planet X dot is at the 3 oclockposition if one consideres 12 oclock as the top of our suns dot oflight and 3 oclock as one quarter of the way down the left side ofthe paper , as one looks down between the two index cards.e) By 3:30 PM, the second sun has moved to the 4 - 4:30 position;by sunset, it has moved nearly to the 6 oclock position.

    Having looked at the photos on another site [ZetaTalk] that weretaken in series by the same camera/photographer/place in a givencity, and others taken in different parts of the world by differentindividuals, the clockwise movement of the second sun is confirmedby the second sun personas and the second sun dots I observed.EagleI posted the index card experiment 2 weeks ago using the 27 guageneedle technique. Yes I still see [Oct 14] a second smaller object

    near the sun which is dimmer and positioned at 1 oclock. I haveshown many people this object using this method and if you dontsee it than you obviously need glasses. Give your eyes time to adjustagain, as its smaller and dimmer than the sun. Eagle only verifiedmy results. Ive found that I can only see it with a 27 guage hole orsmaller.Author of TechniqueThe hole in the top card is like the aperature setting on a filmcamera. The perspective would change as the earth rotates throughthe day. A small hole, or small aperature, give a greater depth offield and in a pinhole is like using a telephoto lense. Why cant yousee Planet X as you look through a telescope? If you were looking atthe sun through a telescope, and someone was standing close toyour left or right, they wouldnt be seen in your telescope. If PlanetX were close by, and out of the angle of your lense, It wouldnt beseen either.Poster 3I dont think you can get much thinner than an index card @ about.020 inch and have any control over varitions in focal length as onemanuvers the two cards (taped together with two pencils to separatesame). My drill was high speed, but not any more. Also, the bits

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    have to be of very good quality, or the holes are ragged/burred.Tried a larger hole in wood, but did not get the proper focal length,but did get a ragged hole, unsuitable for the purpose at hand. Youhave to really focus for about 20 seconds before the second dot(sun) is seen. On my first try, I didnt see the second sun with just apaper folded over. One of the problems twelve days ago was the

    second sun was touching/part of the circle (dot) of our sun. Sincethen, the two have separated slightly, and the second has grownlarger. This I would presume to think indicates the Earth and secondsun are closing the distance separating them.EagleI was an accredited Federal Agent for many years. I attended basicand advanced photography schools. I have been using an 'Air LensCamera' that I made from a small pasteboard box (8" X 4" X 4").One long side [A] is covered with a glossy white paper and the endsand other sides are covered with black construction paper or picturealbum filler. I cut a toilet tissue tube in half at a 45 degree angle andcovered one of the halves inside with black paper. Near the right endof the box side opposite the white paper I traced around the angleend of the tube, cut a hole in the box and pasted the tube into thehole as an eyepiece to view inside the box. Make sure the box is lighttight when using the tube to view the white field. I used a mediumsize safety pin to punch an aperture hole in the middle of . Using thiscamera, I see the Sun and Planet X. Planet X and a wide moon anddebris field are visible. Numerous moons. The Sun dot is not verybrilliant. However, if you move the box so Planet X is superimposedon the Sun, the brilliance is tripled. Other items I placed in the endopposite the eyepiece help me calculate the distance of Planet Xfrom the Sun and Earth. To make your calculation, use the threeknowns plus triangulation. Diameter of Sun. Distance of Sun fromEarth. Zeta stated width of Planet X moon field. This can all be seen

    in living color. Using my 'camera' (which has great depth of field asthe pinhole lens can be adjusted to a max of 6" from the film) PlanetX Moons and whatever else are in motion. I see it as grey in colorwhen away from the Sun and the closest matter appears to be abouthalfway between the film and lens, a phenomenon I have neverviewed previously in any of the other boxes I have used to vieweclipses.Ron, via emailThe suggestion on possible reflection back from the backside of thefirst piece of cardboard proved correct . Blacking this backsideeliminated this low intensity, seperate dot and what remains is acircular white dot connected to our suns spot, which moves aroundthe edge of the sun in clockwise direction as the day progresses. Thissecond white dot is almost the same intensity (no light meter fits inthere ) as our suns now, and looks to have grown to about 1/3 thesize of the suns dot.EagleIf the pinhole is filtered with a thin piece of cream-white plastic (Iuse the lettering on a food wrapper) the Red Dragon can be seen inthe Air Lens Camera. Changing sky conditions and the time of dayaffecting what is seen the the box. I move the Sun completely off the

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    background onto the black paper sidewalls and there is still a lot ofreflected sunlight. But, eliminating the Sun does not always removethe several personas or debris field. It is not as colorful as akaleidoscope, but more interesting to me as the persona's seembrighter.Ron, via email

    I looked this morning, Nov 23, at the rising sun, using my diskettefilm. The Sun is still very bright so I put on a blue tinted Raybanshades and looked again through the filter. I was stunned to see around object about half the size of the Sun at the 8 o'clock position,left of the Sun. Still faint but very much present. When I lookedthrough the diskette film alone I could not see it. When I used abrown shade I also could not see it. I advise people to try thismethod.Felix from Guyana[link to www.zetatalk.com]Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8961534

    WOW great stuff!!! Thanks...... This is ALWAY'S observed in the So.& So. West sky but not for long as the Chemplanes totally obliteratethe entire Southern heavensy when Nibiru is facing our vantagepoint. So when you see the Chemplanes only painting the southernsky during the day there is a good chance Nibiru is there. Depeningon the earth's spin & Nibiru's position they will sometime blast andtotally cover the night sky as well & chem-lines will be clearly visibleby the moon light untile the moon is painted as well.

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!I just checked the sun here (SW Iowa) & the sun is covered withchemtrails.

    So obvious. It is almost like they have no fear of being caught!

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Na I don't buy it - these are either lense flares, sundogs or Venus.More likely to be Venus - Check on Stellarium and set the clock at18:00 or before - Venus is the brightest object in the Western sky.Bigger than Jupiter, which is kind South between the East andWestern sky.

    Above all Nibiru should be ascending from the South

    Keep looking bro

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Dude! I took pics a month or 2 ago that looked EXACTLY like that!

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    I posted a thread here and was told its just a sun dog.Quoting: AmericanInfidel

    Yep I've been taking & posting those same pics for months & you willhave ppl. telling you it's something it's not. I'm betting you were alsofacing towards the southern heavnens when you took those pics. Ilike how you captured all that fake, grey/silvery barium chem-cloudstrying to darken the sky. I believe you actually got the real pic, it'sexactly like the ones I took. It looks like they went real heavy on theChems in your pic.. Good job...Quoting: enki2012

    Yep, took the pic facing almost due south at around 5pm. Used myiPhone 4s to take the pic w just the stock settings to the camera.First and only time I've ever seen anything like it.Destroy all that is evil, so what is good may flourish.

    Guns cause crime like flies cause garbage.

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thruCHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Please stop with the nibiru shit, it is not hear and if it was, it wasshine like it did 2000 years ago when christianity labeled it the starof bethlehem.MESSAGE TO HUMANITY From I AM, Source, The FATHER

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Please stop with the nibiru shit, it is not hear and if it was, it wasshine like it did 2000 years ago when christianity labeled it the starof bethlehem.Quoting: Nobody in Particular

    Please stop with the Abundant Hope/Christ Michael Aton/JupiterIgnition shit, it does not exist, and only goes to show what batshitmorons you and your little drooling wannabe cult retards are.

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    Re: Nibiru spotted in Southern sky 1/16/12 today thru

    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Na I don't buy it - these are either lense flares, sundogs or Venus.More likely to be Venus - Check on Stellarium and set the clock at18:00 or before - Venus is the brightest object in the Western sky.Bigger than Jupiter, which is kind South between the East andWestern sky.

    Above all Nibiru should be ascending from the South

    Keep looking bro

    PeaceQuoting: nibiru2012planetx

    I have Stellarium & just set the clock to 11am (time pic's taken) withtoday's date & my zip code where the pics were taken &accordingto Stellarium at 11am est. today 1/16/2012 the Position ofthis object (nibiru) was direcly and right above the "S"

    marker on Stellarium with the Sun just off to the left side of

    it... So it's right where it's supposed to be..

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Please stop with the nibiru shit, it is not hear and if it was, it wasshine like it did 2000 years ago when christianity labeled it the starof bethlehem.Quoting: Nobody in Particular

    Please stop with the Abundant Hope/Christ Michael Aton/JupiterIgnition shit, it does not exist, and only goes to show what batshit

    morons you and your little drooling wannabe cult retards are.Quoting: Anonymous Coward 192998

    Oh, watch out!!!You are getting the shill (noble) all worked up!!!He might say something to hurt your feelings, maybe even call youan idiot and beg you not to reproduce!

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    CHEMTRAILS? (pics)!!!!!Some ppl. have reason why they would hide the return of thisplanet. If we had free, unlimited energy from a super advanced racethat could show us the secrets of anti-gravity or zero point energythen who would the big losers be? I'm betting it would be BIG OILcompany's or Company's that build BIG OIL rigs?.. I'm sure a fewobvious names come to mind.

    And what about organized religion? The Vatican is a country untoitself, it has BILLIONS & has financed some shady things in it's past.

    So what would happen if a race of ppl from another world showed upand told us that millions of years ago they created us & every oncein a while they would send down someone to get us back on the pathof not killing each other like: Jesus, Mohammed, Joseph Smith(Mormon's) every major religion from around the world has someone"ascend" or "descend" in a beam of light.. Billions would be lost inVatican revenue if the truth were known... So the reason behindeverything as I'm sure most of you know is $$$$..Quoting: enki2012

    if you are one of them, you would hide it to the last seconds.

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