My Personal Experience With Nu Skin – the Company With an Ulterior Motive

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It's the journey, not the destination. Posted by: Bonita | August 10, 2014

My Personal Experience with Nu Skin The Companywith an Ulterior Motive

My phone rang. It was an unknown number.

Bonita here, I greeted as I picked up the phone.

Hi Bonita, this is Patricia!

Patricia had been my college classmate back at Ateneo. We worked on our senior year projecttogether, doing an operational and marketing project as a requirement for graduation. I have alsonot been in contact with her for the last 12 years, only managing to see her at Starbucks last year.

Hi Patricia, I answered. How are you?

I know its been awhile since Ive been in contact, she said. Do you have time to talk?

Sure, I have only a few minutes, I said. Whats up?

Yeah, its just that I thought about you recently and I wondered if it would be good to catch up? Its justcoincidental since I saw you last time in Starbucks and we go to CCF together, she said. CCF stood forChrists Christian Fellowship, one of the largest and most aggressive Protestant church in Manilatoday.

Sure, that would be nice, I said.

How about Monday or Wednesday? she asked.

I think Wednesday would be okay. 5:30pm? I answered.

Sure, she said. Wednesday it is then at 5:30 pm. At Starbucks where we last saw each other.

I thought nothing of it then though found it weird when she texted me a confirmation of our



I thought nothing of it then though found it weird when she texted me a confirmation of ourmeeting.

Hi Bonita! Patricia here. See you Wednesday next week, the 6th, 5:30 pm at Starbucks!

Thanks and see you! I replied.

As I was busy with work, I thought nothing of it until on Wednesday morning when she textedme to remind me about the meeting. People can be organized, and it was a breath of fresh air topeople who are less so.

But when I saw her on Wednesday, I came out of the catch up a little bit disappointed. Why? Forthe following reasons:

1) She caught up with me not much that she wanted to know how I was, but instead, to tell meabout a wonderful entrepreneurial opportunity that was available, which turned out to be NuSkin.

After asking me about how I was after college, and how I met my husband, Patricia then sharedwith me that she was working for a group called Nu Skin, and how interesting it could be if Iwanted to have more income.

I know youre an entrepreneur, Bonita. she said. My group Nu Skin offers you the opportunity to setup your own business, make additional income. Look at me, its enough for me to quit my job and do it fulltime.

As an actual entrepreneur, I wondered what she meant. According to the Merriam Websterdictionary, an entrepreneur is a person who organizes and operates a business or businesses, taking ongreater than normal financial risks in order to do so.

Personally, I feel that an entrepreneur develops the product or service, and sells it to somebodyelse. With Nu Skin, you are selling somebody elses products and services. In my book, we callthese people AGENTS, NOT an entrepreneur.

She then shared with me how multi-level marketing works: Basically, you recruit people NuSkin calls them distributors and you ask them to sell Nu Skin products with you, with you therecruiter getting a cut on their sales.

The long compensation plan is detailed here: Nu Skin Compensation Plan(http://www.nuskin.com/global/library/pdf/compensation_plan_details.pdf).

If you have no patience to read the 5-page document, let me summarize it for you. To make thelong story short, if you are successfully recruited as an Agent cum Distributor, you will getproducts at a whopping 30% discount. For any recruit you have at the first level, you will be given10% commission for every sale they have. On the second to the sixth level, 5% commission.



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Its basically a pyramid scheme where you profit from people below you. Depending on howyour recruits perform, your profit can reach millions, or so Patricia said if youve reached theBlue Diamond level.

Long story short, Nu Skin employs GREED to recruit people who can recruit people to sell theirproducts. Products that are mostly for weight loss or for stem cell therapy, innovativeproducts that they say works but require you to try out first all at cheap packages of at least Php24,000 for a month, and Php 75,000 for a program. Their weight loss program for example lasts for90 days and costs Php 75,000, 6.25x the monthly wage of an average Filipino.

Honestly, I felt a bit suckered. Even more so when I realized the whole meetup was a ploy toget me to listen to Nu Skins sales pitch.

I felt even worse when I came home and talked to Ben, my husbands cousin, who was also a newNu Skin recruit, and hence, was more forthcoming on the many sales strategies Nu Skindistributors employ to find new recruits.

Ben told me that distributors were provided a script on how to get people to meet up with NuSkin agents.

They give you a script which tells you how to word the call, he shared. First, you have to smile whilemaking the call because people can hear your smile. Then you should keep the call short less than 5minutes and the purpose of the call is to get the person to meet with you.

We arent allowed to say what organization we work for, he said. Just say youre part of a group andtell them youd like to catch up. Then give them two options of date/time to meet up. Dont ask them whenthey are free. Ask them a choice of two Day 1 or Day 2. That way, they would most likely to say yes.

I was dumbfounded as I heard Ben share with me what Nu Skin has been telling their agents.Basically, the whole catch up was to get me to meet up so they can talk about their organization!

If Nu Skin wasnt such a bad word, my husband said, Then why do they even advise their agents to



If Nu Skin wasnt such a bad word, my husband said, Then why do they even advise their agents toNOT mention their organizations name? If you were so proud of your company, why not let other peopleknow until youve fallen into their trap?

Good point.

I myself am proud of my own company, and I want all my other employees to be proud of theirwork too. I would never advise my staff to dodge the question on where they worked if asked.

It saddens me that my college friend cannot even declare wh2)ere she worked until I was therehaving coffee in front of her.

Its to stop close minded people from judging you immediately, Ben said.

Well, I can tell people where I worked and close-minded people will NOT judge me. So what doesthat make of Nu Skin?

2) The purpose of the meeting was to invite me to their talk in Octagon Building in Ortigas.And the talk was full of misleading marketing messages!

One of our members, Mr. Dennis Ong, is giving a talk this Thursday, Patricia invited me. You shouldlisten to him. He used to import PC hardware before computers became popular, and made a pretty buck.But now hes doing Nu Skin and makes millions a month. As you can see, now that hes a millionaire, hesnot doing this for money but instead because he likes what he does.

The pitch is that Nu Skin provides you with passive income, a lot more money than if youveworked on a traditional brick and mortar business. Honestly, I was curious I wanted to see whattype of organization can get my college friend to ask long-lost friends out for coffee to share themwonderful opportunities to make even more money. I wanted to check out the organization thatseems to have an ulterior motive in every step.

I attended the talk.

The talk first dealt with how Nu Skin Products were in the forefront of technology, withbreakthrough products that help with anti-aging and weight loss. You want to have a stable partnerwho can give you the products that works, the speaker said. With Nu Skin as a partner, youll have alow cost of entry and high profit potential as we can give you products you can sell, and people will need.



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I dont have a problem with this. Personally, I believe that Nu Skin products arent bogus. Youcant be a listed company in the US if you market fake products. However, I do believe that thecompany misleads their recruits.

Case in point, at last Thursdays presentation, they showed a Discovery Channel clip as anintroduction to their product. The Discovery Channel showed how people were much worriedabout aging and many scientists were developing medicine to find the fountain of youth.

Heres the clincher: The Discovery Channel segment did NOT even mention Nu Skin or itsproducts! It merely talked about anti-aging and the search for the fountain of youth.

But immediately after the clip, the presenter showed a Flash presentation of Nu Skins anti-agingproduct. As if the two clips were one and the same, and the scientists of the Discovery Channelwere endorsing Nu Skin and their products!

I was flabbergasted. This is truly misleading marketing!

Then Dennis Ong came in and talked about his background. He first started his talk saying hewasnt in here for the money, and that he has more than enough to already live a comfortable life.But then he shared that he is a graduate of architecture and how he decided to go to businessbecause architects dont make a lot of money.



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Wah, Nu Skin truly is a company full of conflicting statements. First you say you dont care aboutmoney, then you tell me that Greed is good. Ano ba talaga, pare?

Then he talked about the principles of Robert Kiyosaki, author of Rich Dad Poor Dad. ParaphrasingKiyosakis book and seemingly convincing everyone that these ideas were his own, he brieflytalked about the principles of asset vs. liability, and how people should count on passive income ifthey want to be wealthy and retire before the age of 65.

While talking, I was observing how in a room of 70, half of the room consisted of old agents whowould excitingly answer every one of Ongs questions.

Do you want to be rich?

YES!

Do you want to retire before the age of 65?

YES!

I felt it was weird that the whole setup was like a semi brainwashing process. Put enoughmonkeys in the room, and the non-primates would think theyre monkeys too.

I also found it funny how new recruits were chaperoned to sit in front while their recruiters sat atthe back. The whole set-up was to make more converts.

Personally, I felt Ong spewed a lot of financial common sense that was mostly taken from thebook Rich Dad Poor Dad. Taken apart, it made sense, but if you really thought about it, a lot ofthe things Ong said was misleading.

For example, he stressed the importance of having passive income instead of just putting yourmoney in the bank where its being killed slowly but surely by inflation. To have a passive incomeof Php 50,000-100,000, you have to have a savings account of Php 30 million. This is WRONG.

You would need more than Php 30million to get an income of Php 100,000. Bank rate for savings



You would need more than Php 30million to get an income of Php 100,000. Bank rate for savingsis just 1.25% per annum. So to get Php 100K monthly income, youd need a savings account ofPhp 96 million!

Two, I dont understand how passive income is related to multi-level marketing. Passive incomemakes you money night and day, non-stop. Its like rent once you lease out your place, yourtenant gives you his monthly rent whether he likes it or not. Even if he doesnt stay in the place,he still has to pay you. Same goes with borrowing money from the bank. Night or day, you stillhave to pay for the interest.

Its radically different from multi-level marketing!

If people from your downline dont work, you get no income if you stop working. You and thepeople below you would have to continuously work in order for you to get money. Once you andthey stop, the money also stops. And once it stops, unlike property which you can sell at a capitalgain, you are left with nothing except your savings.

This is not passive income, my dear. Which is why I am unsure why Ong would link passiveincome to a multi-level marketing scheme, except maybe to dupe more people in signing up.

Two, he also talked about how Nu Skin gave him financial freedom.Because Nu Skin can be donefull or part-time, agents can control their own time.

After I got married, my priorities shifted. Ong shared. All of a sudden, I wanted to stay with myfamily. Working hard for another corporation would not have given me the time or money to do what I wantwhich is to spend time with family.

This concept is once again true.

Working part- or flexi-time gives you more time for family and for other endeavors. But like anyother job, you dont work, you dont eat. So how hard you work recruiting for Nu Skin willdetermine your income. The more you work, the more money youll have. So depending on howgreedy you are, there is a big chance youd be out schilling for Nu Skin products with yourfriends instead of spending time with your family!

Ong continues on and on about misleading principles on how to get rich and how Nu Skin mighthold the key to being wealthy. The talk I think was 85% recruitment and 15% about the product!

Mercifully, we finally end the talk by spending the last 10 minutes talking about thethree products Nu Skin is endorsing that day The TR90 Weightloss Program, the R2 and theGalvanic Spa, all of which was sold at a cheap wholesale price of Php 68,000 to Php 77,500. But astarter kit would only cost you Php 24,000-30,000. Ong said for any questions, our distributorfriends would talk to us more about these products, then signalling the end of the talk and thestart of my one-on-one session with Patricia.

Again, I am amazed on how effective Nu Skins marketing can be. First, they bring you to the talkto fire up your greed, then funnel you back to your distributor/recruiter who will share with youhow you too can be part of the Nu Skin family and make thousands and millions of bucks,



depending on how you worked.

3) The one-on-one session invites you to buy Nu Skin products for yourself, or to recruitpeople you to know to buy the products.

You have to use it so you can believe, Patricia cajoled.

Im afraid Im not your target market Pat, I quipped pointing out to my 50 kilo frame. I am not inneed of weight loss, and I am too young for stem cell therapy of r2. My father has also blessed me with verygood skin. I have never been to a dermatologist in my entire life and have no need for a Galvanic Spa kit.

But you know of people who can use it, no?

I do, but I dont feel confident to offer them products as I am not a doctor, I answered. Personally, Idont like to offer or endorse products I have never used, or to do so for personal gain. It makesme feel as if I am using my connections for profit and I dont feel very comfortable about that.

If you can suggest to me 5 names of those who can potentially take advantage of these productsPatricia said.

I then asked how many Blue Diamonds the highest rank at Nu Skin the Philippines has.

15, Patricia answered. Dennis and his wife are two of them.

I nodded my head. Nu Skin has been in the Philippines for the last 15 years. Dennis has been atNu Skin for 15 years. As Blue Diamonds make Php 2.2 million per month, that gives the Ongfamily at least Php 4.4 million of income if the statistics were true.

Dennis and his wife must be gazillionaires, I laughed. Why is he still working at Nu Skin?

Oh he stopped for three years because him and his wife wanted to make a baby, Patricia explained. Butstopping, well, you know what it does and yes, after AgeLoc came out, Dennis decided it was too good anopportunity to pass up.

People work to have money. Once they have enough money, they stop. The Ong family, blesstheir heart, are more hardworking. Or just greedy. Maybe its both. My theory is, like what Ivesaid, multi-level marketing is not really passive income so once you stop, money comes in tricklesand you have to get back to the horse again.

So how long have you been doing this? I asked.

Oh a year Patricia answered.

Later, I learned from Ben that Patricia was already an officer and was doing Nu Skin for morethan a year. Maybe even a couple. Its disappointing how an organization somehow makes theiragents lie through their teeth.

To summarize, I have nothing against Nu Skin. I will not be like these bloggers who have



To summarize, I have nothing against Nu Skin. I will not be like these bloggers who havewritten blog posts against Nu Skin distributors lambasting them. Scathing articles can be foundhere (http://preciousmaiquez.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/doing-research-beware-of-a-certain-toby-tangsoc/), here (http://nheyzhel8916.blogspot.com/2008/12/guys-beware-of-this-nametoby-tangsoc.html), and here (http://bewareofnuskin.blogspot.com/2008/10/toby-tangsoc-scumbag-behind-nse.html). But personally, if theres smoke, theres fire and the fact that Nu Skin tellstheir distributors not to mention that theyre from Nu Skin is smoke for me.

Now again, let me repeat. I have nothing against Nu Skin.

But I do have an issue with the way they recruit new distributors.

Or the way that they mislead people into thinking this is an easy get-rich scheme.

Or the fact that they misconstrue facts with bullshit. I still cant get over the fact that theyvelinked the Discovery Channel clip with their product even though the clip didnt even mentionNu Skin and their product!

Or that they try to blind people with greed. If your product is really good, you dont have to givepeople a multi-level compensation scheme to market your products. Your products will sellthemselves for you. So if this is the case, why emphasize money and greed instead of productknowledge in your training sessions?

In short, I dont like that Nu Skin is a company with an ulterior motive. It gave me a bad taste inmy mouth, and I felt bad hearing how experienced salespeople have to come up with misleadingfacts to sell their products. I think it is unethical AND wrong.

So the next time somebody invites you for coffee, be wary. Nothing is an innocent as it seems.

To Nu Skin leaders and distributors, please be more forthcoming with your customers. We are notidiots and we dont like to be misled. Your products, if they are really good, should speak forthemselves. Please dont give me a get-rich scheme because you and I both know there is no easyway to get rich. You still have to work your ass off to get somewhere. And please stop with theulterior motives. If we do discover youre a Nu Skin distributor, then great! But please, pleasedont ask us for coffee to catch up and then give us a pitch for Nu Skin.

You are better than that. Please do better than that.

For the rest of you readers, I think its better to watch this super short clip(http://www.entrepreneur.co.za/this-billionaires-definition-of-success-will-surprise-you/) bybillionaire John Paul Dejoria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paul_DeJoria) on what success isthan to go to a Nu Skin pow-wow.

Happy weekend guys!



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Posted in Business, Conflicts, Finance, First Experiences, Friendship, Life lessons, Personalopinion, Philippines, Rants, Work | Tags: bad practices, dangers, misleading marketing, MLM,multi-level marketing, nu skin, nu skin philippines, nuskin, pyramid scheme

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By: Bonita on August 12, 2014 at 10:19 pm

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At last! Someone with a logical mind, the ability to write well, and the patience to tell theentire story!

This is an excellent blow-by-blow account of what goes on before, during, and after a B.O.M.(Business Opportunity Meeting)

I was a Nuskin distributor long ago, built a group of downlines, and made a bit of money(emphasis on a bit).

The company is rock-solid. Some of the products are indeed fantastic and worth the premiumprice.

Its the lousy distributors that mess up the companys reputation.

And it seems that the group called Synergy (the group Dennis Ong is a part of) hasnt changedtheir recruitment style. The scripts and strategies remain the same even after over a decade.

I met some good friends in that group. But I also met a whole bunch of fake friends. Ugh!Those were the disgusting ones.

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Some facts: Dennis is truly a brilliant entrepreneur. I estimate that hes making over 1.2M pesos permonth. He and his wife are excellent salespeople, they could sell ice to eskimos, as the cliche goes. Sandy, the person who recruited Dennis, is exceptionally shrewd. He has made well over$2M (dollars!) from Nuskin alone, but he is also a smart investor in real estate, stocks, andothers, so he has probably multiplied that million dollars a few times over. The Nuskin MLM structure can truly be considered a source of passive income. Im notkidding! It can be a source of passive income because_ the upline Executive (thats what they call distributors who consistently hit the sales quota)gets at least 5% commission from their downlines product sales._ Sandy has (in my estimate) over 30,000 distributors under him worldwide._ 30,000 multiplied by a small amount, say $20, per month is an enormous sales volume._ Multiply the sales volume by 5%, and you get his monthly income._ That doesnt include all the other cash bonuses and extra perks (which include all-expensepaid trips to exotic destinations)._ To make it totally passive, Sandy can set up an automatic ordering system to purchaseproducts to hit his monthly quota of $3000 (only 10% of his income)._ At a specified day of the month, commissions are deposited directly to his bank account._ Zero effort But! A big BUT! One has to work as hard as Sandy (or Dennis) did, and be as dedicated as heis. I saw how they built his team of distributors. It did not come easy at all! Hes justharvesting the fruits of his labor.

I did not make it because I was not as dedicated as they were. Not even 10% of their level ofdedication.Those dudes who made were willing to personally apply make-up, facial masks, and othercreams on senior citizens just to demo their products and sell a whole bunch of themafterwards.

I quit because I did not like the person I was becoming. I became money-centered. Every time Isee a human being, I mentally calculate how much I can earn from him/her before approching.I did not care if the sneaky tactics cause them to avoid me in social gatherings.Friends, relatives, strangers, former enemies, it didnt matter. I would approach them all andignore the fact that I could piss them off.That was not the person I want to be. So I gave it all up.And looking back, it was one of the best decisions of my life.

If you want to know some specific insider details, ask away and I shall respond with what Iremember.

Its about time these shameful creatures get exposed.

Warning! Despite saying no to your friend, if you can still consider her one, expect a follow-up call sometime soon.



By: Oldskin on August 27, 2014 at 1:13 am

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Reblogged this on Drei alquiros (http://dreialquiros.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/my-personal-experience-with-nu-skin-the-company-with-an-ulterior-motive/) and commented:Clap clap on this blog. I totally agree with this!

For this, your friend wanted to catch up. In my girl friends experience her friend wanted tooffer her a contractual job in their company. She even said that she got her resume somewhereand heard that she was open to employment opportunities. AGK!

To know now that they actually have a f*cking script is just CRAZY!!!

By: dreialquiros on August 27, 2014 at 2:08 pm

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The same marketing strategh with USANA and ROYALE. Your experience, from a collegefriend who wants to catch up until the marketing invite or talk from their upline, I alsoexperienced that. It is just that I was not interested so they did not get me as their new recruit.:p

By: Jasmine on August 27, 2014 at 2:43 pm

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I encountered the same experience with my bestfriend when I was in grade school. She was allnice and all yet she lured me into catching up turned marketing blah blah of the long gone GFIand other networking that I forgot who apparently sells fertilizers! Why on earth would I evenbuy fertilizers for plants.. Tsk!

By: Chel Nava on August 27, 2014 at 4:09 pm

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Most MLM are like this. They would spill out on you all the greediness and sometimes its sofrustrating to see that ordinary people are attracted into this kind of business. I am a user ofMLM products (supplements to be specific) but I can attest that the products are reallyeffective and good. What I dont agree about is the culture they are creating inside thecompany and the kind of people who have become millionaires who dont have the ethics ofhow to do a Real Sales and Marketing strategy. They will lure you into believing that it is easy



work and easy money when it doesnt really work that way. Hope a lot more people will comeinto their senses that if u want to be rich, as you do not want to be taken advantage then do nottake advantage of others.

By: OpenmindedMum on August 27, 2014 at 6:37 pm

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Is it USANA?

By: Waylon on August 28, 2014 at 1:01 am

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You brought me back to 2006-ish Pharmanex was how they brand it last time around. Thebuilding was in Ortigas, Ericson tower/building to be exact.

I had a great time reading your blog!

By: Anonymous on August 27, 2014 at 8:16 pm

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This is true! I also have a friend from Ateneo who invited me to join the Nu Skin! She also didthe same thing to me and my boyfriend.

She first talked to me on facebook. She asked me to meet her up somewhere in katipunan. Itstarted from there. She and her partner discussed about Nu Skin. It sounded like a goodsource of income.

She scheduled me again for another meeting to give her the membership fee (13,500). Ireceived the products and some forms. After a week, my boyfriend and I decided to quitbecause we felt something wasnt right. So, i called her up that we had to quit. We talked forlike 2 hours, she was trying to convince me not to leave the group. But, i still insisted that wehad to. My friend told me to meet her in Octagon Ortigas so she can give me back the money.When we went there, i was surprised. It is indeed the building of Nu Skin. She was really upto something. Before she gave the money, she asked me to go to the seminar or talk about theNu skin. I said no. Ive made up my mind.

We were really pissed off because they were like forcing us to stay.

And now, ive read your blog. I am now so thankful that we left that Nu Skin thing.

By: Lala on August 27, 2014 at 10:38 pm



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Yeap. My experiences were with NuSkin & Usana. Having studied business and sales, Ialready had an inkling of their strategies for selling, at the same time became a keen target forthem since I have the skills.

One thing that I didnt like in particular with Usana, for instance, is the constant display ofwealth or materialism esp in social media. I told my friend I am never the one to boast norbe active on social media just for that purpose. I was told it doesnt matter bec there are part-timers who dont even post any products on their fbs or their rewards are partners, but ofcourse compared to those who do, they dont earn as much, which wasnt told to me but basedon my observation. I didnt buy it.

Also, in Usana, one of their top earners who started the group Xtreme advised on what to doabout skeptic friends / connections, her answer was in the lines of, if they dont believe inyou, why waste time on them, move on to the next one. That left a bad taste, thinking thatthat was exactly what my high school friend did. After having pitched to me and me decliningpolitely, she just disappeared, bec I am no use for her profitability. I dont really know wherethey get the gall to risk goodwill of relationships. Im also not too keen with their hand sign,its like an upper westside hood/gang sign, that you have to do in every picture and also theneed to always post flashy cars that are not really theirs but their coaches or uplines just tohave this facade of wealth.

My girlfriend in particular got a bit pissed off bec one of the dudes she met at Usana used herbikini pic (she was invited to a pool party by her Usana friends, afterwards she realized it wasa ploy for her to join) in his profile without her permission. The pic collage was supposed toshow what a good life said Usana dude has. He had his picture in the center in a race car thatisnt his and other pics that included basically, girls, cars, vacation, family. She even barelyknew the guy! Hes lucky my girlfriend told me to ignore him.

70+% of it is smoke and mirrors I tell you.

By: Jed on August 27, 2014 at 10:54 pm

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Interesting read. Ive also received calls from my friends before, never reached the part wherethey introduce me to Nu Skin, but its most probably the same company since they asked meto go to Octagon but I declined. Theres also a part in their script where they flatter theirpotential recruits. They told me they remembered me because I was funny and they thought itwould be fun to work with me. Pretty persuasive!

By: Baldo on August 28, 2014 at 12:58 am

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Hi.

I feel for you on sharing your experience on being invited to join your friends business thewrong way. This is the reason mlm should be professionalized.

First of, Ive been distributing Nuskin & Pharmanex products since 2003. Though i do notbelong on the high earning distributors/executives of the company, I have earned substantiallyon retail profits (buying & selling) and commissionable bonuses from the company as icontinue to do business with them.

After reading your entry I can see that your friend could have qualified you better to see if theNuskin opportunity was for you. This is the qualification process

1. Set up an appointment with the candidate and make it clear that the meeting is to talk aboutbusiness.

This part is mostly mixed with catching up. I personally dont like to mix business andpleasure. If the meeting was about catchup, there should be no business talk. Businesstransactions should be done in the office.

2. Present the business and show facts only, no hype.

Sit the candidate down on the Opportunity Meeting and let the candidate decide based onwhat he/she understands of it. If she gets it, she gets it. Smart people dont need to beconvinced.

The discovery episode on epigenetics highlighted that companies are now capitalizing on genescience to make better products. Though Discovery Channel Asia is not allowed to endorseany brand or company, it is clear that Nuskins scientists, Dr Joe Chang and the Scientists inLifegenTech were among the people that were interviewed. This is no surprise because thebusiness of capitalizing epigenetics has been pioneered by Nuskin. Other companies are alsostarting to venture on this platform

3. After the presentation, kindly ask if the candidate wants to proceed.If not interested, say your goodbyes.If not interested but willing to refer, get recommendations.If interested but need to think about it, set another meeting to discuss.If interested and can start immediately, have them purchase a startup package and schedulefor training.

Like all opportunities, you can decline or accept.

Just a clarification on the GREED issue. There is nothing wrong wiith having money. The moremoney you have, the more options you can do with it.Options such as give more provision to your family, send your kids to a better school, givemore to the church, live life with less hassle, travel the world and see the world. The decisionto do good with more money solely lies on the person receiving the money. It is of the person



and not of the business that puts it to action. I have known people that became bad, arrogantand self centered having more money. I also know a lot more people that are humble, morepatient and live purposeful lives having more money.

In my opinion, any entrepreneur who claims he is not desiring more money leading him to bestarting a business is a hypocrite. It goes back to the core idea that having money is not wrongbut loving it/ desiring more of it is.

I have been working with Mr Ong for the longest time and I could say he is but full of timelywisdom in business. He and his wife are very private and humble people and based on whatyou have said on this post, they communicate a CLEAR message that when you stop thinkingabout money, you start to focus on things that are more important in life (whether it bespiritual, family, etc)

Also on the 30M bank fixed deposit to earn 50-100k? If you took it literally, then you havemissed a very important message he was sharing. He highlighted this to say that it is moredifficult to SAVE 30M vs finding executives to build for a passive income stream. 30M mightbe during his younger years bec he is now turning 40s.

The MLM business model is indeed an asset that which you build actively for the 3-5 years, itwill provide you with a passive, permanent source of income. This is not coming from me, butfrom Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump. So its your words against theirs.

Lastly, Id like to point out that Entrepreneurs are not limited to START-UPS.

If you run a water purifying shop, who supplies you the water? the equipment? Given yourdefinition above, you are an AGENT of NAWASA.If you run a mini grocery store, what products are you selling? Given your definition, you arean AGENT of P&G, UNILIEVER, URC and JACK&JILL.If you have a restaurant and sell chicken from Magnolia serve it and named your restaurantMaxxs, arent you also an AGENT of Magnolia??

My point is this, There is no difference if your an agent, self-manufacturing or referringindividual. To be an entrepreneur is to be able to SPOT opportunities and create business in aform of partnership, proprietory or corporation.

Business is a matter of understanding how everything is put together as 1 entity. Nuskin is aSUPPLIER, I use their products to cater to customers on whatever means possible on aprofessional level (that means, no back-biting, no underplay, no exaggerations, no falseclaims), I earn profit from every sale. Nuskin gives me a commissionable bonus for orderingby volumes.

********************Network Marketing (MLM) is here to stay so rather than fighting it, seek to understand itbetter. Because like it or not, marketing thru networks is and become the game changer ofANY business.



By: Tom on August 28, 2014 at 8:15 am

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Exactly same points I have on Nu Skin. And I think they usually stay and get their prospectrecruits in Starbucks. I was almost invited by someone too and good thing I learned rightaway that hes from Nu Skin. I declined in every attempt he made to invite me. Haha

By: bunsongpayat on August 28, 2014 at 10:23 am

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I like how you backed up your article with very sound arguments. good use of logic! Perfectway on how to mix both your opinion and fact. Keep it up!

By: Trish on August 28, 2014 at 10:32 am

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