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Zenon Zenonos
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008 00:32 Post subject: 3 players overview for NBA
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1) Tyler Smith:
Position: Sg/sf,
College: Tennesse,
Age: 21,
Height: 6-7 f
Weight: 215 pounds
Strengths: Very good physical qualifications, high jump, full of energy, seems to enjoy the game
and gives all he got to it (thats why everyone love him). Strong, fast, pacer, scorer
Weakness: Right hand shoot problem (70% shoots are with left hand), needs work at 3point shoots
(technically but also psychologically I reckon). Of course its a little bit difficult as this player has
personal problems (his father has cancer). He needs to work also at dribbling the ball and more care
at making mistakes (which I believe its due to having no great experience).
One/One: Very Good
Transition: Good
Pick and Roll: Very Good
Spot Up: Good
Lever Skill to Nba: Typically yes, he does have the athletic prerequisites, the passion, the love for
the game - he scores with very impressive ways (showman). He needs to work his ball handling,
right hand, 3point shoot, and then we got a real NBA player in my opinion.
2) Nick Calathes:
Position: pg
College: Florida Sophomore
Age: 19
Height: 6-5 f
Weight: 185
Strengths: 3point shooter, scorer, very good in ball stealing, very good in dribbling (he knows what
to do with the ball).
Weakness: when his team is losing he always scores less (this is shown in his statistics too). Its
obvious he needs to work in psychological issues. He makes a lot of mistakes too when he gets
happily excited in the game. Weak and a bit slow for his position.
Lever Skill to NBA: With 10 as best i would put this player an 8. He is not ready for NBA. He
needs to work in his physical condition, speed, agility, if he manages that he could do for NBA, as
NBA needs another good shooter doesn't it?
One/One: Very Good
Transition: Very Good
Pick and Roll: Good
Spot Up: Good
3) Kostas Koufos
Position: C
College: Ohio State
Age: 19
Height: 7-0
Weight: 252
Strengths: scorer from all positions in the field, very good passer, leader in the game, born to put the
ball in the basket.
Weakness: Cant rebound (for his height). He needs to devote training in his defensive
responsibilities and not only in offensive. He needs improvement in athleticism, physical strength,
and then he will balance his offensive capabilities with his defensive.
Level Skill to NBA: A player with a future in NBA. He knows what his nature in the game is:
Offense.
One/One: Very Good
Transition: Very Good
Pick and Roll: Very Good
Spot Up: Good
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Edward Porter
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008 01:46 Post subject:
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Very good observation on Smith. He is a very talented and exciting player as I have been at some of
his games at Tennessee. I feel that he was a more explosive player than his team mate Chris Lofton
who the plays were mainly ran for.
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Pete J. Garcia
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008 07:32 Post subject: player evualation
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make smith should become a two handed shooter. maybe it will help his explosvisness. Ther are alot
of more talented player. trust me... only one handed even I can shoot with both hands
that cent er to better suck it up when it comes to my propect B J Mullens and the PG position is a no
doubt battle with my prospect who is more younger and way more recoginze at such a younger age
from Spain.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008 09:46 Post subject:
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I was a little surprised Koufos stayed in the draft this season, as he was very inconsistent in his one
year at Ohio State. He is too much of a finesse player for my liking. I would like to see him be able
to use his size more to his advantage. From what I saw of him, it seems like he doesn't really like
contact. He certainly has some skills, with a pretty good midrange jumper and a couple of post
moves that look like they could be very effective if he develops more consistency. And he seems to
possess pretty good instincts as a shot blocker. But does he even have a left hand? And I would like
to see more consistency from him as a rebounder. Overall, it seemed like his focus was very much
hit-and-miss.
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Posted: 21 Aug 2008 10:46 Post subject:
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Good post!
I really like how you broke down whether they were good in certain offensive situations (like one-
on-one). Smith is going to have a breakout season this year for sure! He's a decent ball handler and
he has plenty of experience due to being a top ranked high school player for '05 & again in '06. But
players like Josh Smith, Gerald Wallace, & Darius Miles are terrible ball-handlers and they are or
were in the NBA (was or were doing a great job). His mistakes are probably mental instead of
playing his game (which I had problems at times too when I played). But besides I think he will be
a solid NBA pro off the bench. Calathes reminds me of Shaun Livingston with a shot. He blew me
away a couple of years ago in the McDonald's All-Star game. His weakness were right on the
money and I some what agree with his strengths. I think he's more of a streaky 3-point shooter that
needs more work and might I add has great court vision (puts the ball right where it needs to be).
He'll definitely need time to develop but is destined to be a NBA starter that will have a good career.
I have to agree with Tracey that I was surprise as well when he decided to leave after an up and
down season (but they said he wasn't getting along with his coach). He has a left hand (better than
most) though but completely agree with everything you said on him (one of the easiest guys to
scout). I personally he'll be a great player with All-Star potential and is a definite upgrade in the
post for Utah off the bench with Millsap (he just needs that experience).
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Posted: 23 Aug 2008 10:20 Post subject:
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Good observation of Koufos. It seems like the Jazz drafted another Okur on the team that's a bit less
aggressive. I agree that he needs to get more physical since he will be playing the 5 position. With
his size right now he will not be able to put up a good fight against the true centers in the league. At
the same time he'll be able to draw out the bigs from the paint allowing low post scoring options
from Boozer or open lanes for the guards.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2008 08:08 Post subject:
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I think Koufos will be fine at the 5 in the league. Most nba 5's are not physical in my opinion, there
is only really a few nba players that are really really physical. Lot of 4's and 5's hanging out in 3
point land.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2008 12:01 Post subject: Effective and not effective
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Setting: Euroleague 2007-2008
Game: Olympiakos - Real Madrid
Player: Giorgos Printezis
The game was for winning into the final four of Euroleague inside Spain and as you understand the
Spanish team Real Madrid had to win. The stadium was full of people who had intense emotions
about it. The game was man to man, point to point throught, until the young player Giorgos
Printezis enters the game and the Olympiakos players seemed to rejuvenate. He was full of energy
jumping high and will devotion to grab the rebound and at same time also devoted extremely to his
defensive duties towards the Spanish player Felepe Reyes, fighting with all he has ,opening space
for the scorers to shoot, making screens, he gave all for victory. He is not the kind of player who
will look for shots only to himself close behind arc, but if he has time to take shooting position, he
has proved he has whats it takes to shoot and win his points at a very nice clip. In this game he was
only catching and shooting and made it well. He scored as a mature player, in the right timing.
I am grading Giorgios Printezis high for ‘Effectiveness’ since he is a player who can change the
game, despite his stats show he isn’t very consistent with rebound when comparing total with play
offs performance.
By contrast when player Kostas Vasiliadis enters the game (great shooter 43% 3point, 64% 2fg) to
help for the final four needed win, he does what he would do in any less important game: takes a
position in the corners of the field to shoot and neglecting a bit his defensive duties towards Charle
Smith of Real Madrid. Smith with drive 4 and 3x3p he accumulates 14 points.
Conclusion
A player is effective when he can do what the coach requires him to do, provided he actually has the
ability to do it. Right now modern basketball wants the ‘perfect’ player who can do a lot of what the
couch will ask him to do. Those players who do most things to a satisfying level and perhaps are
maturer in the game logic and who can avoid turnovers, plus with a great self-assertion in free
shoot, will be favorite (EFFECTIVE) for coaches.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2008 21:54 Post subject:
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A player is effective when he can do what the coach requires him to do, provided he actually has the
ability to do it. Right now modern basketball wants the ‘perfect’ player who can do a lot of what the
couch will ask him to do. Those players who do most things to a satisfying level and perhaps are
maturer in the game logic and who can avoid turnovers, plus with a great self-assertion in free
shoot, will be favorite (EFFECTIVE) for couches.
I agree with this as coach i would be very happy with my players if they did that..
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Posted: 31 Aug 2008 05:15 Post subject: Nice Depiction.
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I enjoyed your depiction of the atmosphere of european basketball. It brought back memories. I
think the others appreciate it but don't fully understand how basketball really is overseas. The fans
are always die hard they create exciting moments before and after the game, the coaches and
players are always under pressure. From experience if you are a player for a top team or a certain
high quality coach you are expected to produce and be effective every game no matter what or there
will be consequences. Winning is the most important!
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Posted: 04 Sep 2008 19:32 Post subject: No defense No Win
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No defense No Win,thats a "law" in basketball... most players in Europe show respect to it:) (in later
years in NBA too). I mean, most European teams do play defensively, unlike NBA.
We seen otherwise of course, the recent example of USA game with Spain in the final of Olympics
2008. The spanish coach, after he was convinced his team cannot do much just with good use of
defense (cause of difference in physical power being greater in the US team), he went straight for an
open offensive game attitude, just like an NBA team would. A wise decision-bet that almost would
work up to winning the game (and make THE surprise of basketball olympics). This offensive tactic
is mostly good for us, when we know the opponent will play an offensive game and maybe, on top
of that, when the opponent has physically stronger players (stamina and jump in Dreamteam's case).
You cannot win a game playing defensively against such players.
Many european national teams make it to the top in the league by playing offensively while
defending. One of them is Greece. Coach Panagiotis Giannakis for years now has implemented
exactly this 'system'. So what he does is picking players who are in general as Offensive as possible,
and puts them play good defense, and then these players play a game of a as close-knit team as
possible, not allowing anyone to be selfish or a 'star' of the team. So Greece is keeping itself high in
world and european championships for 10 years now.
I took a look on Germany's statistics to see what is this team's defence/offence rating, (Germany has
long since, in 1993, been a euro championship but cant do better since, altho its roster and talent
arent bad and they even have 2 NBA stars with them).
Germany-Greece
My comment is that Germany has a problem with circulation of the ball (paces), and had fewer
rebounds, which means fewer offenses for Germany, and the very strange fact that Nowitzki had
only 3 rebound and no defensive reb:/
Germany-Spain
Here one can see that again circulation of the ball was the problem (many turnovers), only 4 rebs
and 3 steals and Nowitzki with height 7.0' only 4 defensive reb and 1 offensive reb?
Germany-China
Here the turnover was 14!, tragic field goal (29) and Nowitzki who wanted to compete Yao Ming in
rebounds (17, here only Dirk remembered to rebound??) brought again a defeated game for German
team.
Finally, as we saw statistically, Germany's team cant work defensively and even more make what i
call offensive (aggressive) defense. A team without good percentage in rebound (and with
Nowitzki), and without good circulation of the ball (pacing), with considerable turnover, and a team
which in Offense expects everything from Dirk, except is some occasions when some other shooters
are 'in their best form' but usually its Dirk the one who has to do most work (and that is not a
teamwork game). Its sad that a player like Dirk is only used in Offense and cant do much in
defense. That is why they got Kaman this year, to balance offense and defense among the two. But
they forgot something very basic, its more of a teamwork (with the big stars) that wins game than
just the big stars alone.
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Posted: 05 Sep 2008 23:24 Post subject:
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No defense no win is sometimes ok but when a great defensive team make good stops and still
loose by a buzzer beater or a great play can cause defense to look broken down so a attackting
offensive team is very hard to stop. If they are shooting over 50% from the field and droping threes
will make it a long day for the defense
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Posted: 06 Sep 2008 09:10 Post subject:
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I can see where Zenon is coming from. After all, the motto "defense wins championships" would
not be one if it were not true.
Edward, you also have a great point. An attacking offense is a great way to break down the defense
and a attacking offense will win games for a team, but not a championship. When I think of
attacking offenses I think of the Phoenix Suns and Golden State Warriors primarily. They do very
well during the season but when it comes down to playoff time where most team clamp it down on
defense, Phoenix and the Warriors do not make it very far.
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Posted: 14 Sep 2008 11:19 Post subject: Sacha's Deal
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Sacha's Deal
I took a look in Sasha Vujacic's (Lakers) statistics to try enter the thinking of Lakers manager and i
saw many important issues. His initial thought was probably 'age factor' and the comparison
between, play time in the game and time to play that was given by the coach. So he really saw 'age-
play time given by coach-player performance statistics'. These and the players playing position
dynamics inside the team, are the 'tools' to decide if he should stay or not. In Sasha's example we
have a player 24 year old with continuesly evolving positive performance statistics (especialy
shoots) and as i said, player high performance in the given playtime going up with time, is saying to
the manager that he is going to go only better in his career, so why leave him to another time to
harness his talent and maturity in the game? Another attribute is of course players personality and
maybe psychological issue of 'character' and how much he is a team player or a solo showman.
Sasha's role in a team full of big stars like Kobe Bryant, Gasol, Odom and Arita is for sure not the
First role but the laker's manager -rightly thinking!- decided that in this new season Sasha will
probably get more play time by his coach as it happens slowly since Lakers had this player, and he
will even improve as said before so that, he will really establish himself as an important factor in
one of Nba's biggest teams. For a team to be 'excellent' its not only about having big stars to do
most work but have valued substitutes to carry on in times of need without jeopardizing the teams'
success. So a player like Sasha Vujacic, physically ok, with continualy improving stats of
performance, seemingly wants to succeed in his job 'undertake' ,devoted that is, YOUNG, and
perhaps not very demanding in salary issues, isnt that what a coach (and a manager) of every team
want?! The 4 million dollar for 3 years is a good deal for both sides and time will show how right
the manager was on this, but i think he has good reason to believe he made a correct choice.
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It was a smart move for the lakers to bring Sasha back. I think along with his improving
performance, the Lakers brought him back due to team chemistry. Why would anyone break up a
team that had just gone to the finals? The Lakers made another good move by cutting his deal short
to three years instead of the five that was requested by Sasha.
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I agree with you good move for Lakers. Sasha plays his role on that team, and improving on the
defensive end. I noticed during the end of the season, he was taking on the challenge of guarding
other teams better players.
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Posted: 17 Sep 2008 19:03 Post subject: how to maintain good teamwork attitude
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I could write A LOT about the importance of teamwork in basketball, since this is the weeks theme.
Many a time there is an issue we discuss about the actual good thing the big stars players are for the
game,what does the star system of sports offer to the team more than if it didnt exist at all and all
players where seen equal for what they offer, big 'stars' and substitutes alike?
Basket is a team based sport anyway, in which to get to Success you have to work together and
without much problem but here i think about what really makes people come to see the game in the
arena. And that is: Show. And who makes the show? The star players with impressive shots ,jump,
hoopshot etc.
The coach's role in creating a show is a factor too. The coach who is best will be the one who can
maintain balance in the team, between everyone feeling equal in terms of who is needed for the
team to succeed. Players can have ''individual self-confidence'' but they must also have teamwork
confidence, the coach's work is this.
A team with bad gossip, verbal fighting between its members, any sense of bad communication in
and outside the game, will never make 100% of its potential to play at best. The coach's role isnt
only to coach the players to play good basketball and prepare offensive and defensive diagrams to
deal with opponent teams/players but also to maintain an good level of psychological balance in his
star player so that he doesn’t go excessively egoist during the game, doing a selfish game in the end
and causing others to feel bad. So a balance is secured. The playmaker will give his best pass and
the scorer will shoot also his best, its good if they think also for the team's scoring ability instead of
just how much they themselves make.
As i read on this weeks assignments saying there isnt much of a statistical formula to prove how
well is the teamwork level , on this i would like to comment that substitute players' hard work may
not be visible to the fan of the game, so the coach should be sure to make these players feel
rewarded too.
For the Synergy Assignement
Player I watched: Cobe Bryand, in San Antonio VS La Lakers, on May 29 2008
5sop-1-0.33
Here Cobe waits his teamplayers to take their field positions, he decides to do a drive but 3
defenders go at him, he assists to Walton and Walton gives it back, in order to find time and space,
Cobe shoots under time threat.
5sop2- 0.23m-
Ginobili takes picks and roll, he wants to give the ball to Duncan but Cobe realises it and steals it
5sop3-0.12m
Cobe makes transition and offeres assist to Walton to hoopshoot
5sop4,0.28m
Cobe makes river dribble in front of Thomas, makes drive, brings the ball to the left hand and
layups
5sop5-0.28m
Cobe organises the game, center screens, cobe makes drive by taking Duncan with him, who was
arriving for help, Duncan was slow!
5uop1-0.01m
Transition Cobe, screen Walton, Shoot Cobe but without success (imbalanced shoot)
5uop2-o
Cobe posts, he receives the ball in a bad pass, he manages to keep it inside the field -center rolls- he
tries to gives him the ball without success (bad estimate)
5uop3,0.27"
Cobe makes crossed moves in front of Thomas, manages to find space for a jump shoot but no
success
5uop4-0.18
Cobe shoots 3point wanting to catch the opponent by surprise without success
5uop5- 0.2
Cobe makes drive and finds Odom in his feet, taking him by surprise, wrong choice, wrong pass of
the ball
5dm1-0.28m
Parker makes layup while Cobe watches - he cant do anything because he plays man to man and
cant leave his watch mate
5dm2-0.1
Parker shoots , Duncan takes rebound and Cobe watches...
5dm5-0.2m-Parket spots up for shoot while Cobe just watches him
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Posted: 27 Sep 2008 06:56 Post subject: ball possession' first (no ball,no honey)
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No take the win you have to win 'ball possession' first, the more you have this the more the
possibility to attain your winning goals grow. If we analyze the rebound statistics of a team and
compare them with game lose/win results, its proven that a team with not good rebound record will
win but with greater difficulty.
When a coach is on the stage of building a team he takes care to first have a strong defense
normally AND also, to 'keep the ball'' among his players. Rebound is crucial. But when all that is
secured then the team suddenly gets more shoots and eventually better scoring record (which leads
sometimes to win).
Now, finding and obtaining players whose specialty would be exactly that, rebound, is a difficult
task for the coach/manager. The player should be as tall as possible and jump agility, and possibly it
helps if he can be a genius. I mean the 'center' position is so crucial ,exactly because of the rebound,
which itself leads to the ball possession which as i said earlier, leads to more scoring opportunity.
The center should then basically be as tall as possible, and as smart as possible...
Imagine Saquil O'Neal if he was only a dumb rebounder? I dont think we would like him so much if
he just did that as many other centers do (in Europe maybe more, where you get very tall monstrous
young guys who dont know basketball much).
I think good centers are always just a few, globally. For me, a classical example of a rebounder who
is a 'master' is Arvidas Sabonis who scored 42 against Greece (i was there) while he was master of
rebounds in that game. This center-scorer is not the dream of a coach who will try to assign specific
system play to his players individually, but i guess, its another issue of a coach's 'philosophy' of the
game. Bottom line is: no ball, no honey.
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Posted: 28 Sep 2008 18:54 Post subject:
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Good topic. You see a lot of this in youth sports (AAU). Ever body wants a big man because he is
supposed to grab rebounds. My AAU team last year (11 under) played against a 6'2 240 5th grader.
He grabbed every rebound that came off the rim! He would miss 5 layups in a row, but would just
get the rebound back and put it up. As a coach, I tried everything in the book to keep him off the
boards. My players were intimidated at first, we got down early and played ketchup the whole game
& ended up losing only by 8 points. The point is size does matter to some extent especially in
regards to rebounding.
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Ryan Staten
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Posts: 48
Posted: 28 Sep 2008 19:57 Post subject:
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good post! I agree with Rodney that size does come into play to a certain extent but talent is always
undeniable. When you break down certain levels of the game, in Rodney's example size definitely
matters because they'll have an advantage over other kids even with terrible skills. But on the other
hand as Zenon was explaining its great to have size but skills have come along with it in order to be
successful in the league.
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Edward Porter
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Posts: 26
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I agree with your topic, if you have a posseion use it wisely and dont just give it up. Size also does
matter but they should have good jumping ability which is what you said. Sometimes it will come
down to your big player so they need to be strong and smart for instants:
- Rebounding with out giving off a cheap free
- Post
- Give and go
- Easy put backs
Ovarall a good Topic
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Posts: 134
Posted: 04 Oct 2008 00:27 Post subject: star player build ateam!
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star player build a team!
unless you have magic
in trading
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John Paxson
I took a small research on John Paxson's gm activity in the recent years (Chicago Bulls), wondering
how he and his team cannot take the championship for ten years.
Derrick Rose is a very good player, athletic, scorer, young in age, full of appetite for work. If
Paxson manages not to press hard on him ,he will help the team from year 1. Any way, we talk
about NO1 draft. Sonny Weems is a very good investment for Paxson and Bulls. A player with 15
points in 31.4 minutes in NCAA is ready to offer and perhaps in 3 points but with bit of work and a
lot of self esteem he can be even better. This choice by Paxson maybe proves better than Rose.
Omar Asik, another chosen player, is a bet in my opinion. Paxson hopes to make even with the loss
and bad estimate of Pau Gassol last year. I guess he has high hopes on Omar. The question is how
much will the inexperienced Turk stand the pressure and the comparison with Gassol.
Another choise of Paxson is Gordon, a player with 18,6 points in 31,8 minutes per game. Of course
he is one of the experienced scorers for the team, Paxson loves this players and he has a good
reason to (good scorer, hard worker, good personality) but the disappointing last years play offs
(terminated by Washington Wizzards), needed a 'victim' and the responsibility fell on Gordon (or
this is how the player feels anyway). Thats why he refused the 58 million for 6 years and he
accepted the 6 for 1 year. Paxson believes that this way he will have a Gordon that works his best in
every game to make his next contract better and to prove he deserves more than 58 for 6 years.
Excellent moves are the contracts with Nichols and Deng. Deng is very good scorer, he helped a lot
last year while Nichols with a bit more trust on him by the coach may prove gold.
Also, Paxson got 3 college ones, Elton Brown, Roger Powel and Darious Washington, i think a real
lottery though... With cheap money, Paxson and his team hope to make something good and raise
the teams overall value. I think these players have a lot of incentive and normally they will at least
work hard.
One last note, Curry didnt have enough opportunities (probably due to bad discipline) last year, he
was given over to Iowa Energy , he didnt satisfy Paxson, then he found himself in Europe (France)
where he played good game (he must have had his reasons to).
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John Paxson was looking like a genius until last year. I love the pick with Rose and not to mention
I'm a fan of teams drafting local but legit talent (a la LeBron James & Josh Smith). They traded
Sonny Weems to Denver though during the draft which is good because they have a glut guards out
there in Chicago. I like Darius Washington of the invitees but he will definitely not stick with
Gordon, Rose, Hinrich, Hughes, and Sefolosha in the back court. I wonder why San Antonio didn't
invite him? They raved about him last year. But I agree with you on JamesOn Curry he's a legit
NBA role player but Paxson doesn't tolerate foolishness (I wonder what that says about Noah). But
with all the guards in Chicago he's definitely not better than any of them. He's a good GM but will
see if he can cook up some trades to make this team better (assuming their goal is to make the
playoffs). Good post!
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8-Final Paper – Zeno Basketball GM Scouting
Part 1
Interview
Kostis Mitropoulos
Team: Vari Basketball team club, Greece (3 division)
Job: Training Coach
What are your daily tasks?
Train 15 year olds for the Greek youth club championship. Supervise physical exercise in the gym
and
basketball technique together.
How you became a coach in this team?
I studied in TEFAA (Gymnastic Academy of Athens) many years ago and taught in public
schooling, but
basketball was my afternoon teaching in private clubs, from the beginning, I started with small kids
in my
local living area as employee couch part time, then we made a good team and i dropped my public
school
job to become a basketball couch full time.
What are your goals for the future of Haraugiakos?
We do well up to semifinals most of the time so our goal is to go higher, and take the cup but we
know its
not something we can plan easily, I intend to work with the same players up to that point but most
of them
grow 3 years old by the time and leave this team and basketball so I must constantly find 14 year
old who
already have high skill level, many of them do but few of them are able to work in the sport with a
professional mind, as a pro athlete would, so my job is also to advise them and their parents what to
eat,
to have discipline and in general focus on their athletic aspiration.
Part 2
Evaluate an NBA Team
The team I research by looking at player statistics, is Sacramento Kings. A very interesting small-
medium
team of NBA who gives opportunities to young players and hopes to success this year. My thinking
is to
build a team with 3,4 experienced players, scorer, 2-3 good drafts and many youth from colleges,
plus 1-2
leaders of the team. Experience, scoring, good defense, team play, positive characters (psychology),
and
hard work, is what i think a good General Manager looks for, in order to bring success to his club.
The
marrying of these i hope to do and be a good 'best man'. Note: I left Bibby out because he left in
mid-year.
Head Coach: Reggie Theus
General Manager: Geoff Petrie
Kevin Martin (age: 25)
A good player born for scoring, at a good age. With more experience he is ready to leader the team
and
raise Sacramento’s aims. His salary is good for the team and he is going to work to raise it, it
depends
from him solely to do that.
Ron Artest (age: 28)
Good scorer, with experience but his stats show that he isn’t like that due time. His salary is too big
for his
contribution but i guess if a player feels he has the higher salary possible, he plays better out of
satisfaction that the team values him.
Brad Miller (age 32)
A useful tallman, experienced, excellent efficiency statistics, but it would be better if he could
improve
even more. Coach trusts him and he just have to play more, there is still room for improvement, His
salary
is i believe too high for this player but in our era you can find enter me the abilities and experience
of
Miller easily anyway...
Beno Udrih (age 26)
Very useful point guard, good assist specialist, team play based but not so much self-reliant. He
should
already have it if i can judge from the time his coach gives him to play. Salary is under new contract
which
is good for this players profile, his contribution to the team and his age.
John Salmon (age 28)
Experienced good played, helping with scoring always AND defense, but nothing else. Nothing.
Salary is
too high for his (new) contract.
Francisco Garcia (age 26)
Excellent players, with potential to be a leader and this year for sure he will get more time from
coach. His
salary is ok, not as much as he could get, seems like the team has made a good deal for her part with
this
contract. The player of of course can raise his salary in the future.
Mikki Moore (age 32)
Very strong player, good in defense but he could be faster and with more self-belief. His salary is
too
good and the manager should be congratulated for this contract I think.
Shelden Williams (age 24)
Replacing center, which is needed always. With more playing time he can do more I think. He is at
best
age anyway. Salary is too good already.
Quincy Douby (age 24)
Young able player to show more zeal in defence, he can get more playing time still and show more
of
what he got. His salary is a good deal for the team's economy.
(If i was manager i would waive him and I would get Nick Calathes.)
Spencer Hawes (age 20)
Very young but good center who waits the opportunity to prove more his value, thats why he
refused to
go to summer camp (last year he had knee injury). This year he wants to play. His salary is
satisfactory
for certain from player side.
Anthony Johnson (age 34)
Helping point guard, nothing more really. Salary is too high. (I would waive Johnson and get TY
Lawson,
a younger player with better efficiency)
Dahntay Jones (age 27)
Played too few minutes for a 27 old player. Salary good from the players perspective only. (from
drafts it
would be good to get Tyler Smith from Tennessee, excellent scorer, strong built and self trust,
maybe the
new leader)
Shareef Abdul Rahim (age 31)
A good but unlucky power forwards, last years he played only 6 games and showed quite a lot. His
salary
is too good for him but being strong excuse it. (i would waive him and get Gyno Pomare from San
Diego,
a strong and ambitious boy with much potential)
Justin Williams (age 34)
A center in good age with 5,4 min is maybe better to change environment. Salary is very good
(proposition: waive Williams and get Tyler Dierkers from Miami Hawks college. Great promising
kid if he
works hard is all areas and positions of field)
Kenny Thomas (age 31)
Not so good statistics for a player that has great promise. His salary is huge for what he offers to the
team. Probably too much value was placed on this defensive capabilities. I expect a lot from his this
year
(last year he played few games cause of injury but i would like a more experienced power forward
in the
team)
Darryl Watkins (age 23)
A new center with great potential, if he has enough opportunity. It deserves for him to be part of the
chess
game. His salary is clearly a college level salary and its up to the player to get more.
Orien Green (age 26)
Small percentages in statistics but he didn’t have enough playing time and few games so he needs to
be
given more time. His salary is ok for what he offers to the team. (my thinking would be to waive
him and
get Mike Taylor, 14,4 points in 39 games from Iowa)
Lorenzen Wright (age 32)
Very promising center who didnt give as much as expected. His salary is very good for the
experienced
Wright. (i would waive him and get Kostas Koufos from Ohio to get better defense)
Trade in RealGm
Give Quincy Duby, Spencer Hawes for Steve Blake from Portland , 2 young men without good
efficiency
to get one strong point guard who costs 4.250.000 $(the 2 exchange players cost together 3.616.810
$)
To finish, i must say my philosophy in the above team making. I think i made a team based on
experience
more than anything else and scoring statistics. These two where my main concern in choosing who
to
keep who to waive.
Part 3
Statistical Formula:
How the teams with the top five regular-season records rank in 10 most important statistic
categories:
Team (record, rank) FG% Opp. FG% FT% 3FG% St/TO Reb. Ast. PIP Pt. diff. RR Tot
Phoenix (61-21, 2) 1 14 1 1 20 30 1 5 2 2 77
San Antonio (58-24, 3) 3 4 17 3 8 15 11 15 1 3 80
Dallas (67-15, 1) 5 7 2 4 12 5 24 26 3 1 89
Houston (52-30, 5) 27 1 16 5 9 8 16 28 5 5 120
Detroit (53-29, 4) 20 6 7 26 1 16 13 27 6 3 125
How the teams with the best regular seasons record finished in the last 10 playoffs:
Season Team (record) How it finished playoffs
2005-06 Detroit (64-18) Lost in conference final
2004-05 Phoenix (62-20) Lost in conference final
2003-04 Indiana (61-21) Lost in conference final
2002-03 San Antonio, Dallas (60-22) NBA champion (Spurs)
2001-02 Sacramento (61-21) Lost in conference final
2000-01 San Antonio (58-24) Lost in conference final
1999-2000 L.A. Lakers (67-15) NBA champion
1998-99 San Antonio, Utah (37-13) NBA champion (Spurs)
1997-98 Chicago, Utah (62-20) NBA champion (Bulls)
1996-97 Chicago (69-13) NBA champion
Part 4
Scouting : A) Team B) Player
Game Skills
Player Demond mallet
Team Dkv joventut balanona
Height - Weight 6-2,190lb
Shoots - Left/Right Right
Mental Ability
Physical Ability
Leadership
Offense
Go-To-Guy
Movement w/o The Ball
Shot Selection
Decision Making
Physical
Strength
Speed
Jumping
Endurance
Agility
Minutes Played
Field Goal Shooting
Free Throw Shooting
Three Point Shooting
Mallet is very fast player, good dribbler and shooter, gets gladly the responsibility when the ball is
'heavy' under Pont guard ine psiloteros.den ton voithai to ipsos tou.tha eprepe nas itan kaliteros sto
floor defence.
Ratings System 1-2 Poor
GENERAL INFORMATION
Dkv JOVENTUT BALANONA
TEAM
SCOUTED:
ESTOUNDIANTES
THEIR
OPPONENT:
Palau d esports de balanona
PLACE OF
CONTEST:
8-10-08
DATE OF
CONTEST:
ZENONZENONOS
SCOUT:
Arena Palau d'Esports de
mixture OPPONENT’S OFFENSE
Do they play pattern, freelance, control or
mixture?
both
Are they quick hitting or do they run
continuity?
Which side of the floor do they prefer to
attack?
x R ight Left Neither
YES After rebound
D o they fast break? When?
DRIVES,3POINTS What type?
What are the strong points of this team on
offense?
rebounds,shooting middle
What are the weak points of this team on
offense?
Man to man
What defense did their opponents use
against them?
Man to man
What defense do you think would be the most effective against them and
why?
They have
fast playes
and very good shooters, but weak center and forwards.
Additional Comments:
Left hand down
What signal do they use to set
up a play?
yes
Does the same man handle the ball to set up
the play?
yes
Do they favor a special
man to pass?
If they worked for a last shot, whom did they try to get the basketball to?2 screen to ponit guard
DIAGRAM OPPONENT’S FAST BREAK
The center get the rebound and give to point guard.
Fast-
break
notes:
DIAGRAM OPPONENT’S PRESS OFFENSE
They are fast, but same for Badalone players .
Fast-
break notes:
OPPONENT’S DEFENSE
What defense or defenses did they use in this game?
Man to man
What is their best
defense?
Which defense did they use the most?
Where is their point of pick upon the guard?
Man to man
How do they defense the wings?
Man to man-ine ligo argoi oi psiloi ala kaloi
How do they defense the
low post?
Nan2man-ala ohi poli kala
How do they defense the high post?
Poli kala-ine grigoroi ke xemarkaronte eykola
How do they defense
the screens?
Man 2man yes
Do they press?
What kind?
no
Are they slow
getting back?
Mallet-very quick player-with good 3 point
Is there a player (s) we might want to exploit?
Speed,stamina What are their strong points on
defense?
In low post, the centers is slow and the point guards doesnt What are their weak points
defence as good as they can in the perimetre. on defense
Man2man
What offensive set did their
opponent use?
Same-man2man-point guards is very good
and shooting with high statistics
What are your offensive suggestions to attacking their
defense?
Do they press the entire game or just in spots?
yes
Do they look to press after free-throw
situations?
What kind of press?
no
Very good
Do they deny the ball to the
inbounder?
How good is middle coverage?
OPPONENTS INDIVIDUAL CHARACTERISTICS
# Name Pos HT WT Year RH/LH
FG: 3P% FT% PtAv RebAv Offensive Rating: E-G-A-BA-P
Best shot and favorite move
Defensive recommendation
32
0-1
Iturbe iker
6-8 2-2 20 1
F/C
FG: 3PP
6-7
% FT% PtA223LB 1976
v RebAv Offensi# Name Pos HT WT
Year RH/LH
ve Rating: E-G-A-BA
3POINT
Best shot and
favorite move
man2man
Defensive
recommendation
25 Cumming vonteego pg 6-3 190lb 1976
# Name Pos HT WT
Year RH/LH
1-3 1-5 6-8 11 2 FG: 3P% FT% PtAv RebAv Offensive Rating: E-G-A-BAP
Inside drive,midle shot
Best shot and favorite move
Zone Defensive
recommendation
11 Granger jayson g 6-2 181lb 1989
3-5 2-3 1-1 13 1
# Name Pos HT WT
Year RH/LH
FG: 3P% FT% PtAv RebAv Offensive Rating: E-G-A-BAP
drive,shoting
man2man
Best shot and
favorite move
Defensive
recommendation
15 Carlos souarez sf 6-8 229lb 1986
0-5 2-6 5-6 11 7
# Name Pos HT WT
Year RH/LH
FG: 3P% FT% PtAv RebAv Offensive Rating: E-G-A-BAP
shoting,rebound
zone
Best shot and
favorite move
Defensive
recommendation
SCOUTING SUMMARY
Your thoughts on their offensive attack and how we should defense them:with passes to the front
line,to
the centers,and 3point. Gia na apodinamonete alomi perisotero i piso grami.
Your thoughts on their defensive attack and how we should defense them:with man 2man -good
front line
,
List 5 keys that you believe are critical to our success against this opponent:
Good shooting
#1.
Good passes to the centers
drives
#2.
#3.
#4. good defence to the guards
More speed attack
#5.
OUR POSSIBLE MATCH UPS
If we were to play man-to-man, list below the way you believe we should match up with them:
mallet Vs. granger
bracey Vs. cummings
henk Vs. clark
jasaitis Vs. fernadez
Pau ribas Vs. pancho
What do you believe are the critical match ups and why do you feel that way?
Combination=player position, way ofplay, same, What is different: talent areas.
VIDEO SCOUTING REPORT
List below all the video that we have compiled on this opponent and currently have on file:
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THE FINAL SCOUTING REPORT PRODUCT
After you have scouted your opponent, the scouting coach should file a report
on the team and relay it to you and your entire staff. At this time, you should
go over your strategy and game plan for that opponent. You might also give
these reports to your team to study if you feel it is beneficial.